Re: CS>Led light (UNCLASSIFIED)

[scl...@netzero.com]

This is per my own research your mileage may vary. I find shining 660 LEEDS a 
few inches from my eyes for 2 seconds on 2 seconds off for a few minutes daily 
actually improves my clarity and visual acuity. It is a bank of 36 LEEDS made 
by V or www.theledman.net .
Steve 

-- Tad Wink  wrote:
The red 660 NM is supposed to be one of the most healing, resonating 
with cell energy and hemoglobin.  Infrared is also beneficial, and the 
blue frequencies are used on babies with high bribing counts to treat 
jaundice, also supposed to kill bacteria and heal acne, but bad to 
shine in the eyes.  I've read somewhere that possibly the 660 or 880 
can help with some eye problems, I don't know the specifics of how.  I 
also haven't seen any good guides on how long to use the lights in a 
session for different conditions and colors of light, if anyone has 
good information on that.

Nancy

On Apr 24, 2008, at 9:21 AM, Med with, Robert J Mr XIV USA MAC wrote:

> I have a pocket LED light  9 leds in a small flash light is it good 
> for any thing but light??
>


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Re: CS>Led light (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Tad Winiecki]

The red 660 nm is supposed to be one of the most healing, resonating 
with cell energy and hemoglobin.  Infrared is also beneficial, and the 
blue frequencies are used on babies with high bilirubin counts to treat 
jaundice, also supposed to kill bacteria and heal acne, but bad to 
shine in the eyes.  I've read somewhere that possibly the 660 or 880 
can help with some eye problems, I don't know the specifics of how.  I 
also haven't seen any good guides on how long to use the lights in a 
session for different conditions and colors of light, if anyone has 
good information on that.


Nancy

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I have a pocket LED light  9 leds in a small flash light is it good 
for any thing but light??





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Re: CS>Led lights (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Tad Winiecki]

On Apr 24, 2008, at 9:19 AM, Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC wrote:


LED lights
Where to buy and what kind and strength.




V on the forum here makes them-

http://www.theledman.net/

I bought a 3 color array from him recently, it's working great.  There 
are other sources on google as well.  Someone posted this informational 
site-


http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=2102232338

Nancy


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RE: CS>dog related

[Silvia Messmer]

While it may get rid of bacteria, fungus and yeast it will not dry the area,
it will still be moist.  If you saturate the area for a few minutes with
your CS you will also want to dry the area afterwards.  Constanly damp skin
is usually not healthy skin.  If there is an off odor to the damp area there
are things growing there you don't want. Why is it constantly moist there?
Is his nose leather touching the fur where the fold is?

Good news is your CS will not hurt his eyes.

You might want to join a breed specific group, search Yahoogroups to find
one, and see if they have solutions for keeping a Japanese Chin's skin folds
dry.  I'm sure they would have suggestions that I can't think of.

Silvia


  -Original Message-
  From: Gale Rivers [mailto:gay...@comcast.net]
  Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 11:52 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CS>dog related


  So do you think it will do the job and get rid of the bacteria and dry up
moisture there  Gale
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From: Todd Paddock
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:44 AM
Subject: RE: CS>dog related


Have used as eyedrops for myself and my dogs, no problem.
todd




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  Subject: CS>dog related


  I have a Japanese Chin (they have no length of nose).  He always has a
moist spot right in that crevasse.  I think bacteria live there.  Can I put
the CS on that area and not hurt the eyes if some gets in them  I am not
really familiar with working with CS but have it and know it to be  really
good  Gale from Poulsbo, Wa.



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Re: CS>daughters infected wisdom tooth

[Tad Winiecki]

Sorry, my computer bombed and I didn't think it sent the first message. 
 Best wishes, Nancy


On Apr 24, 2008, at 3:10 PM, Tad Winiecki wrote:


On Apr 24, 2008, at 12:25 PM, gmetrop...@aol.com wrote:


ail,
  The ironic thing is that this daughter was the most vigilant 
with flossing and brushing. She says because it was impacted a 
depression formed where food could get trapped even though she was 
careful. The dentist is recommending all four out with no apparant 
problems in the other teeth and a $4,000 cost. Does anyone know of an 
electro-dermal testing to evaluate any meridan energy interference in 
tooth meridians?


Have you gotten estimates from other oral surgeons?  Also, my son had 
4 wisdom teeth removed from under the gums with local anesthetics 
instead of a general which is probably cheaper, if you can find a 
surgeon who will do it.  I hate general anesthesia.


Nancy



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Re: CS>daughters infected wisdom tooth

[Tad Winiecki]

On Apr 24, 2008, at 12:25 PM, gmetrop...@aol.com wrote:


ail,
  The ironic thing is that this daughter was the most vigilant 
with flossing and brushing. She says because it was impacted a 
depression formed where food could get trapped even though she was 
careful. The dentist is recommending all four out with no apparant 
problems in the other teeth and a $4,000 cost. Does anyone know of an 
electro-dermal testing to evaluate any meridan energy interference in 
tooth meridians?


Have you gotten estimates from other oral surgeons?  Also, my son had 4 
wisdom teeth removed from under the gums with local anesthetics instead 
of a general which is probably cheaper, if you can find a surgeon who 
will do it.  I hate general anesthesia.


Nancy


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ACIDIC BODY = CS>daughters infected wisdom tooth

[Treblclef2]

 
I discovered that the reasons for my cavities and infected teeth, including  
abscesses, were from an acidic body and mercury/metal fillings.  Most  
dentists no longer use metal/silver fillings.
 
===
 
In a message dated 4/24/2008 4:47:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
gmetrop...@aol.com writes:

Prices aren't changing much and I prefer a hoilstic dentist  who knows how to 
prevent cavitations. My daughter's never had drugs in her  body so don't know 
what she can tolerate although she's panicked from the  pain. General 
anesthesia  is not my chiioce. It has dangerous side  effects.  


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LOCALIZED NOVACAINE = CS>daughters infected wisdom tooth

[Treblclef2]

 
I had several teeth pulled by an oral surgeon in his office using local  
anesthetics (high-potent novacaine) and this was a wonderful experience because 
 I 
had NO recovery from being put under, not to mention the expense of a surgery 
 procedure in a hospital, surgery room, recovery room, doctor 
assistants/nurses,  and anesthesiologist.  
 All extractions were done right in the oral  surgeons office.  I had 3 
teeth done at a time and from beginning to end  only took 1 hour, including the 
time it took for the special novacaine to take  hold.  The costs for 3 at a 
time were minimal ($600) compared being put  under in a setting where an 
anesthesiologist would have needed to be  there.  
 Plus an oral surgeon does this all day long and  has special extraction 
tools to make the pulling easier which resulted in fast  recovery because 
there is less tissue and nerve damages.
 Most oral surgeons have financing available,  unlike many dentists.
 

 
In a message dated 4/24/2008 4:27:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
winie...@pacifier.com writes:


On  Apr 24, 2008, at 12:25 PM, gmetrop...@aol.com wrote:

>  Gail,
>   The ironic thing is that this  daughter was the most vigilant 
> with flossing and brushing. She says  because it was impacted a 
> depression formed where food could get  trapped even though she was 
> careful. The dentist is recommending all  four out with no apparant 
> problems in the other teeth and a $4,000  cost. Does anyone know of an 
> electro-dermal testing to evaluate any  meridan energy interference in 
> tooth meridians?

Did you call  around and get some other price quotes from other oral 
surgeons?   Also, I found one that would do it with local anesthesia 
instead of a  general and that could also reduce the cost, it you think 
this would not  be a problem for your daughter.  My son had his cut out 
from under  the gums this way.

I hate general  anesthetics.

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Re: CS>daughters infected wisdom tooth

[GMetropulo]

Prices aren't changing much and I prefer a hoilstic dentist who knows how to 
prevent cavitations. My daughter's never had drugs in her body so don't know 
what she can tolerate although she's panicked from the pain. General anesthesia 
  is not my chiioce. It has dangerous side effects.  


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Re: CS>daughters infected wisdom tooth

[Tad Winiecki]

On Apr 24, 2008, at 12:25 PM, gmetrop...@aol.com wrote:


Gail,
  The ironic thing is that this daughter was the most vigilant 
with flossing and brushing. She says because it was impacted a 
depression formed where food could get trapped even though she was 
careful. The dentist is recommending all four out with no apparant 
problems in the other teeth and a $4,000 cost. Does anyone know of an 
electro-dermal testing to evaluate any meridan energy interference in 
tooth meridians?


Did you call around and get some other price quotes from other oral 
surgeons?  Also, I found one that would do it with local anesthesia 
instead of a general and that could also reduce the cost, it you think 
this would not be a problem for your daughter.  My son had his cut out 
from under the gums this way.


I hate general anesthetics.

Nancy


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Re: CS>Question: Collodial Silver and Strep Throat

[Day Sutton]

You can easily see where the infection is; it will be red.  I have almost
instant success with using a cotton swab dipped in iodine, and directly
applied to the red areas.   Of course continue with the CS/EIS...

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Tony Moody  wrote:

> On 24 Apr 2008 at 14:26, craehow...@juno.com wrote about :
> Subject : CS>Question:  Collodial Silver and
>
> > I believe I have strep as I have all the same symptoms that I associate
> with it.  Each time this has occurred I have increase my intake of Collodial
> Silver.  I do believe that the Collodial Silver helps in some way but it
> never seems to work an the burning painful sore throat.  This time I have
> been on the MMS  (15 drops 4x day) and Collodial Silver  I believe that
> it may decrease the length of time, but again the burning throat continues..
> > I bought a squeeze lemon and spray it on the back of the throat and also
> hot and really spicey broth soup is helpful.
> > Is Strep immune to the collodial silver?  Or am I not using the right
> method for it to help.
> > thanks
> > connie
> >
> > _
> > Click to compare psych/counseling degrees in a free directory of
> programs.
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> >
>
> Hi Connie,
>
> If you catch the sore throat early enough then you may be succesful with
> one or two
> applications. Trouble is that the throat area is richly endowed with mucous
> and the strep etc
> hides in the slime. CS has difficulty penetrating that. I have had several
> successes gargling
> with salt water as an adjunct (1 tsp per cup of warm water ) both before
> and after slooshing
> and gargling with CS.
>
> I would guess that adding DMSO to CS would do similar slime penetration and
> possibly be
> even more effective that the salt water.
>
> OK,
> Tony
>
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Re: CS>Question: Collodial Silver and Strep Throat

[Sharlene Miyamura]

For sore throat, I'd explore additional ways to use CS.  Definitely use
several drops into each ear, one ear at a time, leaning your head to one
side for 5-10 minutes, then do the other ear.  Also using a nasal spray of
CS into the nose.  Many times we forget that the origins of the pathogen's
entry may be elsewhere.  I've had much success using the CS in these ways
too.

Sharlene

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 4:26 AM, craehow...@juno.com 
wrote:

> I believe I have strep as I have all the same symptoms that I associate
> with it.  Each time this has occurred I have increase my intake of Collodial
> Silver.  I do believe that the Collodial Silver helps in some way but it
> never seems to work an the burning painful sore throat.  This time I have
> been on the MMS  (15 drops 4x day) and Collodial Silver  I believe that
> it may decrease the length of time, but again the burning throat
> continues..
>
> I bought a squeeze lemon and spray it on the back of the throat and also
> hot and really spicey broth soup is helpful.
>
> Is Strep immune to the collodial silver?  Or am I not using the right
> method for it to help.
>
> thanks
>
> connie
>
>
> _
> Click to compare psych/counseling degrees in a free directory of 
> programs.
>

Re: CS>Recommended article, please read

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  Subject: Re: CS>Recommended article, please read


  Amen.  You too TJ and anyone that only tosses us a link with no reason to 
look at it.

  Trem

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From: Dan Nave 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:25 AM
Subject: RE: CS>Recommended article, please read


Please include a short description of the article you are recommending.  
Simply including the title with this one would have been sufficient.  

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  Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 12:18 PM
  To: Silver List
  Subject: CS>Recommended article, please read



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  http://www.NaturalNews.com/023052.html

Re: CS>Question: Collodial Silver and Strep Throat

[Tony Moody]

On 24 Apr 2008 at 14:26, craehow...@juno.com wrote about :
Subject : CS>Question:  Collodial Silver and 

> I believe I have strep as I have all the same symptoms that I associate with 
> it.  Each time this has occurred I have increase my intake of Collodial 
> Silver.  I do believe that the Collodial Silver helps in some way but it 
> never seems to work an the burning painful sore throat.  This time I have 
> been on the MMS  (15 drops 4x day) and Collodial Silver  I believe that 
> it may decrease the length of time, but again the burning throat continues..  
>  
> I bought a squeeze lemon and spray it on the back of the throat and also hot 
> and really spicey broth soup is helpful. 
> Is Strep immune to the collodial silver?  Or am I not using the right method 
> for it to help.
> thanks
> connie
> 
> _
> Click to compare psych/counseling degrees in a free directory of programs.
> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/Ioyw6iigjRkrto1cKO5a2eZMwVisV8bjLJjNOiH8FJk2DfduuEDZMc/
> 

Hi Connie,

If you catch the sore throat early enough then you may be succesful with one or 
two 
applications. Trouble is that the throat area is richly endowed with mucous and 
the strep etc 
hides in the slime. CS has difficulty penetrating that. I have had several 
successes gargling 
with salt water as an adjunct (1 tsp per cup of warm water ) both before and 
after slooshing 
and gargling with CS.  

I would guess that adding DMSO to CS would do similar slime penetration and 
possibly be 
even more effective that the salt water.

OK,
Tony


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Re: CS>daughters infected wisdom tooth

[GMetropulo]

Gail,
 The ironic thing is that this daughter was the most vigilant with 
flossing and brushing. She says because it was impacted a depression formed 
where 
food could get trapped even though she was careful. The dentist is recommending 
all four out with no apparant problems in the other teeth and a $4,000 cost. 
Does anyone know of an electro-dermal testing to evaluate any meridan energy 
interference in tooth meridians?


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CS>daughters infected wisdom tooth

[Gail Naranjo]

> 
> 
> > Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:05:22 EDT
> From: gmetrop...@aol.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>daughters infected wisdom tooth
> 
> She is getting the antibiotic prescription but to
> treat the tooth itself with 
> Cs/DMSO how much of 70%DMSO should be diluted with
> CS? I will be with her in 
> a week and have the 70%. She can't find it up there
> and is in so much pain she 
> has no energy to search around. If all she has is
> straight CS will that do 
> locally? or would 2 drops of Oregano oil be better.
> I'm telling her to take 
> probioitcs too when taking the antibiotics for the
> first time in her life but she 
> is discrediting anything I'm saying right now
> because nothings worked. The 
> extraction is scheduled in 2 weeks when she's home
> so it's crucial to rid the 
> infection and keep the are clean. I called her
> dentist for the prescription and 
> he said I told you so. He believes everyone should
> have wisdom teeth removed 
> because we are not like the caveman anymore.I have 4
> kids with wisdom teeth and 
> more coming up. They all have some crowding but I
> can't afford $16,000 on 
> removing 16 wisdoms. He says these problems will
> come up again but I feel we need 
> to deal with a problem when it happens instead. Just
> trying to do my best. 
> Thanks. Georgia
>

Georgia,

Several things are going on here.  One, your daughter
is young and really doesn't have a lot of experience
with caring for herself.  Probably is use to Mom
caring for her, plus the young often think there are
indispensable.  But when infection comes, so does pain
and fever making it very hard to make a good decision.
 At the same time, everybody has the desire to survive
and will do whatever it takes. 

So when does one decide to do the alternative vrs. the
antibiotic.  For one thing, it often takes a lot of
vigilance with alternative methods.  They work, but
sometimes takes longer and round the clock
application.  IF THE INFECTION IS SPREADING FASTER
THAN THE PERSON CAN ADDRESS IT WITH OTHER METHODS,
then an antibiotic is the better route, imo. 

Your daughter has a serious condition.  It can get
very serious.  As I mentioned on another list, if the
infection is in the lower jaw, it can spread to the
throat causing the windpipe to swell leading to death.
 If in the upper jaw, it can go into the sinuses and
brain.  You already mentioned a cyst from it.  It can
cause jaw bone loss.  This is serious and I believe
your daughter knows that.  I would trust your daughter
in her desire to have the antibiotic.  It is the
infection that is the enemy, not the drug.  

The problem with wisdom teeth is that there is usually
not enough room for them.  That plus people usually
don't clean as thoroughly as they should which then
leads to bacteria causing infection.  If your children
will brush and floss deligantly, then they can prevent
future problems even with the crowding.  However, most
aren't as thorough as they should be, especially the
very young.

The dentist is also not the enemy.  He is simply
giving you his advice based on his years of experience
seeing what comes into his office.  Like I said, most
just don't brush/floss as thoroughly as they should
and that is where the problem starts.

Please keep us informed on your daughter's condition.

Sincerely,

Gail
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Re: CS>dog related

[Gale Rivers]

So do you think it will do the job and get rid of the bacteria and dry up 
moisture there  Gale
  - Original Message - 
  From: Todd Paddock 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:44 AM
  Subject: RE: CS>dog related


  Have used as eyedrops for myself and my dogs, no problem.
  todd





From: gay...@comcast.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:55:20 -0700
Subject: CS>dog related


I have a Japanese Chin (they have no length of nose).  He always has a 
moist spot right in that crevasse.  I think bacteria live there.  Can I put the 
CS on that area and not hurt the eyes if some gets in them  I am not really 
familiar with working with CS but have it and know it to be  really good  
Gale from Poulsbo, Wa.


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Re: CS>Recommended article, please read

[kmilkowski]

Great article, thanks for posting!

Kurt
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> 
> Check out this great article:
> 
> http://www.NaturalNews.com/023052.html


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Re: CS>Recommended article, please read

[trem]

Amen.  You too TJ and anyone that only tosses us a link with no reason to look 
at it.

Trem

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  From: Dan Nave 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:25 AM
  Subject: RE: CS>Recommended article, please read


  Please include a short description of the article you are recommending.  
Simply including the title with this one would have been sufficient.  

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To: Silver List
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Re: CS>daughters infected wisdom tooth

[Tony Moody]

Hi G,

In desperation i applied one of the silver rods from my silver maker direct to 
tooh and while 
holding the other rod. For a few seconds (less than 1/2 a minute)  and then 
swopped 
electrodes. It was virtually instant relief which didn't last long, an hour 
maybe. Repeat 
applications improved the response til by end of day it was fixed and the 
swelling started 
going down leaving a hollow in the flesh at base of tooth. 

It stings for a moment and rapidly goes just sore, less than before. 

I use a device driven by 9v battery and it has current control to 1 milliAmp.

Best of luck to you and yours,

OK,
Tony  


On 23 Apr 2008 at 12:27, gmetrop...@aol.com wrote about :
Subject : Re: CS>daughters infected wisdom to

> My daughter is at college and will be back in 2 weeks to adress the impacted 
> wisdom tooth. She bought Sovergn silver and is using it as compresses plus 
> taking it orally and using homeopathics to no avail.She is in tremendous 
> pain. an 
> ideas?
> 
> 
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RE: CS>Recommended article, please read

[Dan Nave]

Please include a short description of the article you are recommending.
Simply including the title with this one would have been sufficient.  
 
Dan




From: Bill Amos [mailto:billa...@verizon.net] 
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 12:18 PM
To: Silver List
Subject: CS>Recommended article, please read


 
Check out this great article:

http://www.NaturalNews.com/023052.html

CS>Recommended article, please read

[Bill Amos]

Check out this great article:

http://www.NaturalNews.com/023052.html

RE: CS>dog related

[Todd Paddock]

Have used as eyedrops for myself and my dogs, no problem.
todd


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08:55:20 -0700Subject: CS>dog related



I have a Japanese Chin (they have no length of nose).  He always has a moist 
spot right in that crevasse.  I think bacteria live there.  Can I put the CS on 
that area and not hurt the eyes if some gets in them  I am not really 
familiar with working with CS but have it and know it to be  really good  
Gale from Poulsbo, Wa.
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Re: CS>Question: Collodial Silver and Strep Throat

[Arnold Beland]

Connie,

Gargling with warm salt water fixed mine.  CS had no effect.

Best Regards,
Arnold Beland
www.atlasnova.com
  - Original Message - 
  From: craehow...@juno.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 7:26 AM
  Subject: CS>Question: Collodial Silver and Strep Throat


  I believe I have strep as I have all the same symptoms that I associate with 
it.  Each time this has occurred I have increase my intake of Collodial Silver. 
 I do believe that the Collodial Silver helps in some way but it never seems to 
work an the burning painful sore throat.  This time I have been on the MMS  (15 
drops 4x day) and Collodial Silver  I believe that it may decrease the 
length of time, but again the burning throat continues..   

  I bought a squeeze lemon and spray it on the back of the throat and also hot 
and really spicey broth soup is helpful. 

  Is Strep immune to the collodial silver?  Or am I not using the right method 
for it to help.

  thanks

  connie



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CS>Led light (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC]

Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
Caveats: NONE
 

I have a pocket LED light  9 leds in a small flash light is it good for
any thing but light??

 Bob
 
Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
Caveats: NONE

CS>Led lights (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC]

Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
Caveats: NONE
 


LED lights
Where to buy and what kind and strength.

Bob
 
Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
Caveats: NONE

CS>dog related

[Gale Rivers]

I have a Japanese Chin (they have no length of nose).  He always has a moist 
spot right in that crevasse.  I think bacteria live there.  Can I put the CS on 
that area and not hurt the eyes if some gets in them  I am not really 
familiar with working with CS but have it and know it to be  really good  
Gale from Poulsbo, Wa.

Re: CS>daughters infected wisdom tooth

[GMetropulo]

She is getting the antibiotic prescription but to treat the tooth itself with 
Cs/DMSO how much of 70%DMSO should be diluted with CS? I will be with her in 
a week and have the 70%. She can't find it up there and is in so much pain she 
has no energy to search around. If all she has is straight CS will that do 
locally? or would 2 drops of Oregano oil be better. I'm telling her to take 
probioitcs too when taking the antibiotics for the first time in her life but 
she 
is discrediting anything I'm saying right now because nothings worked. The 
extraction is scheduled in 2 weeks when she's home so it's crucial to rid the 
infection and keep the are clean. I called her dentist for the prescription and 
he said I told you so. He believes everyone should have wisdom teeth removed 
because we are not like the caveman anymore.I have 4 kids with wisdom teeth and 
more coming up. They all have some crowding but I can't afford $16,000 on 
removing 16 wisdoms. He says these problems will come up again but I feel we 
need 
to deal with a problem when it happens instead. Just trying to do my best. 
Thanks. Georgia


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CS>Question: Collodial Silver and Strep Throat

[craehow...@juno.com]

I believe I have strep as I have all the same symptoms that I associate with 
it.  Each time this has occurred I have increase my intake of Collodial Silver. 
 I do believe that the Collodial Silver helps in some way but it never seems to 
work an the burning painful sore throat.  This time I have been on the MMS  (15 
drops 4x day) and Collodial Silver  I believe that it may decrease the 
length of time, but again the burning throat continues..   
I bought a squeeze lemon and spray it on the back of the throat and also hot 
and really spicey broth soup is helpful. 
Is Strep immune to the collodial silver?  Or am I not using the right method 
for it to help.
thanks
connie

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Re: CS>godzilla now LED lights

[mborgert]

Thank you for the article.
I remember Brooks wrote about led lights, but I cannot remember what he said.
Does anyone have Brooks's article on LED light Therapy???
Mary
-- Original message from "Rowena" : -- 



That is probably also a very effective tool, and lighter to post!  I have read that the light is effective right through to bone, and I think it penetrates bone, though it depends what kind you buy; some are fairly shallow penetrating just for skin, others go in for up to eight inches..  
 
Part of the problem with substances is getting them to the infected site when it is so deep. They can kill germs where they happen to touch them, and likely lessen the overall body load.  
 
But electricity and the light can penetrate immediately and get right deep down to the source.
 
My understanding is that you simply should not look at the lights.  If you need to find out if they are working, you can look on a closed circuit television.  I shine it on my hand, though, and that is enough to show how strong the light is, whether the batteries have run out, whatever.  Part of my reading was to say that there was temporary damage from looking briefly at the light, but that it improved without permanent damage.  However, I don't know about looking at it longer.  I would have thought it rather irresponsible to show that being done without eye protection.  But what do I know, except what I read on the internet?
 
On the other hand, 
 
http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=2102232338
 
 says:  So basically, the use of light-emitting diodes eliminated the draw back of lasers, and light could be applied into such sensitive areas as the eyes and around the face. 
 
And 
Initially, single frequency light penetrated approximately an inch and a half, but today, larger un
its can penetrate up to eight inches. It will go through the skull. We use it on strokes, concussions and internal problems in the brain. Excellent studies have been done using light for pain relief, degenerative osteoarthritis, carpal tunnel tendonitis, skin ailments, acne, psoriasis, healing of the sinus cells, throat and ear problems, whiplash and lower back problems. 
 
PENETRATING THROUGH THE BLOOD STREAM You can even get light into the blood stream. One of the best ways is through your belly button, because the aorta artery is behind the belly button. So if you insert the light there for 20 minutes, every drop of blood in the body will pass in front of the light, increasing the activity of your white cells, red cells, B-cells and T-cells, so you can boost your whole immune system. 
 
LED technology is used by vets on animals, so it  must work.
 

What is Light Emitting Diode Therapy?
Light Emitting Diode Therapy, commonly known as LEDT, is a form of phototherapy which involves the application of low power monochromatic and non-coherent light to injuries and lesions to stimulate healing.
LEDT is used to increase the speed, quality and tensile strength of tissue repair, resolve inflammation, and give pain relief. The technical term often used to describe this form of therapy is photobiomodulation.
LEDT is distinct from LLLT, in that LEDs do not produce coherent light waves. However, many practitioners believe that the effects of LEDT are similar, and some research has indicated this to be the case.
LEDs have a number of significant benefits over lasers in some respects. LEDs are a good deal cheaper than laser diodes, thus making them ideal for use in cluster probes, and are inherently more robust so they can withstand rougher treatment. This is why NASA has chosen to use LEDT.
http//www.msfc.nasa.gov/news 
 
R
 
 
There is one on another internet site that is a dental tool to shine led healing light on gums.  It would be hard to do that with the array.   It mentions treating infection.  It also has zappers, colloidal silver generators, and more but I haven't ordered anything from them so I don't know anything about them-http://www.elixa.com/light/arrays.htmThis site shows a woman using infrared and red leds on her face without eye protection.  Does anyone know which leds are not good for the eyes? 

RE: CS>daughters infected wisdom tooth

[Dan Nave]

I'm sure Jim Humble said that MMS is *not* effective on tooth abscesses.
Don't torture her with MMS...
 
I would use:
 
1 part of your DMSO to 9 parts CS or 
2 parts DMSO to 8 parts CS.
 
Personally, I would take the antibiotics while doing the CS/DMSO, 6V
zapper, or oil of oregano.
 
Dan




From: gmetrop...@aol.com [mailto:gmetrop...@aol.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 7:43 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>daughters infected wisdom tooth


Dan,
I did read mmms was successful for some people on abcesses but
don't know i my daughter will do it. I'd like to get more info on basic
application of the zapper. the DMSO I have is 70%. What's the diltuion
with CS?


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Re: CS>daughters infected wisdom tooth - 6v germkiller.

[bbanever]

Georgia,

  Don't deny her the use of antibiotics if that is the route she wishes to 
take.  She MUST get rid of the infection first and foremost.  DMSO should help 
get CS or whatever else you want to topically apply get to the site of 
infection also.

 Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: gmetrop...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 5:49 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>daughters infected wisdom tooth - 6v germkiller.


  My daughter is now insisting on antibiotics due to pain going into the jaw 
and head. She is away at college for 2 more weeks with exams and graduation and 
is misereable. I have asked her to do the remedies mentioned which she is not 
experiencing relief and is being told by everyone around her she needs the 
drugs. She has never had an antibiotic in her life but now insisits on it. I 
have scheduled the removal for 2 weeks when she returns but need to get the 
infection cleared that has taken a foothold. Thank you everyone for your input. 
I am not financially able nor think that automatic removal of all wisdom teeth 
is needed but I wish this could of been prevented and I have other children 
getting their wisdoms also. Thanks again, Georgia


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Re: CS>daughters infected wisdom tooth - 6v germkiller.

[GMetropulo]

My daughter is now insisting on antibiotics due to pain going into the jaw 
and head. She is away at college for 2 more weeks with exams and graduation and 
is misereable. I have asked her to do the remedies mentioned which she is not 
experiencing relief and is being told by everyone around her she needs the 
drugs. She has never had an antibiotic in her life but now insisits on it. I 
have 
scheduled the removal for 2 weeks when she returns but need to get the 
infection cleared that has taken a foothold. Thank you everyone for your input. 
I am 
not financially able nor think that automatic removal of all wisdom teeth is 
needed but I wish this could of been prevented and I have other children 
getting their wisdoms also. Thanks again, Georgia


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Re: CS>daughters infected wisdom tooth - 6v germkiller.

[Saralou]

Vodka works faster. Suck it back forth and around the infected area 
several times/day and spit it out.


Paula Perry wrote:
In addition to what everyone else has been saying, there are a couple 
of other things that are effective. Tea Tree Oil dabbed on around the 
tooth and also Listerine mouthwash. There were some instructions about 
keeping the Listerine in the mouth for seven minutes to clear infected 
gums. I tried it and it worked for me when other things wern't 
intirely clearing it up.

Paula

Re: CS>godzilla now LED lights

[Rowena]

That is probably also a very effective tool, and lighter to post!  I have read 
that the light is effective right through to bone, and I think it penetrates 
bone, though it depends what kind you buy; some are fairly shallow penetrating 
just for skin, others go in for up to eight inches..  

Part of the problem with substances is getting them to the infected site when 
it is so deep. They can kill germs where they happen to touch them, and likely 
lessen the overall body load.  

But electricity and the light can penetrate immediately and get right deep down 
to the source.

My understanding is that you simply should not look at the lights.  If you need 
to find out if they are working, you can look on a closed circuit television.  
I shine it on my hand, though, and that is enough to show how strong the light 
is, whether the batteries have run out, whatever.  Part of my reading was to 
say that there was temporary damage from looking briefly at the light, but that 
it improved without permanent damage.  However, I don't know about looking at 
it longer.  I would have thought it rather irresponsible to show that being 
done without eye protection.  But what do I know, except what I read on the 
internet?

On the other hand, 

http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=2102232338



 says:  So basically, the use of light-emitting diodes eliminated the draw back 
of lasers, and light could be applied into such sensitive areas as the eyes and 
around the face. 

And 
Initially, single frequency light penetrated approximately an inch and a half, 
but today, larger un

its can penetrate up to eight inches. It will go through the skull. We use it 
on strokes, concussions and internal problems in the brain. Excellent studies 
have been done using light for pain relief, degenerative osteoarthritis, carpal 
tunnel tendonitis, skin ailments, acne, psoriasis, healing of the sinus cells, 
throat and ear problems, whiplash and lower back problems. 



PENETRATING THROUGH THE BLOOD STREAM You can even get light into the blood 
stream. One of the best ways is through your belly button, because the aorta 
artery is behind the belly button. So if you insert the light there for 20 
minutes, every drop of blood in the body will pass in front of the light, 
increasing the activity of your white cells, red cells, B-cells and T-cells, so 
you can boost your whole immune system. 


LED technology is used by vets on animals, so it  must work.

What is Light Emitting Diode Therapy?
Light Emitting Diode Therapy, commonly known as LEDT, is a form of phototherapy 
which involves the application of low power monochromatic and non-coherent 
light to injuries and lesions to stimulate healing.

LEDT is used to increase the speed, quality and tensile strength of tissue 
repair, resolve inflammation, and give pain relief. The technical term often 
used to describe this form of therapy is photobiomodulation.

LEDT is distinct from LLLT, in that LEDs do not produce coherent light waves. 
However, many practitioners believe that the effects of LEDT are similar, and 
some research has indicated this to be the case.

LEDs have a number of significant benefits over lasers in some respects. LEDs 
are a good deal cheaper than laser diodes, thus making them ideal for use in 
cluster probes, and are inherently more robust so they can withstand rougher 
treatment. This is why NASA has chosen to use LEDT.

http//www.msfc.nasa.gov/news 


R



There is one on another internet site that is a dental tool to shine 
led healing light on gums.  It would be hard to do that with the array. 
  It mentions treating infection.  It also has zappers, colloidal silver 
generators, and more but I haven't ordered anything from them so I 
don't know anything about them-

http://www.elixa.com/light/arrays.htm

This site shows a woman using infrared and red leds on her face without 
eye protection.  Does anyone know which leds are not good for the eyes? 

Re: CS>godzilla

[Tad Winiecki]

On Apr 23, 2008, at 8:04 PM, gmetrop...@aol.com wrote:


Does V still make the godzilla?



I think not, check his website-

http://photoman.bizland.com/godzilla/order.html

I got an led array from him recently though-

http://www.theledman.net/

There is one on another internet site that is a dental tool to shine 
led healing light on gums.  It would be hard to do that with the array. 
 It mentions treating infection.  It also has zappers, colloidal silver 
generators, and more but I haven't ordered anything from them so I 
don't know anything about them-


http://www.elixa.com/light/arrays.htm

This site shows a woman using infrared and red leds on her face without 
eye protection.  Does anyone know which leds are not good for the eyes? 
 I know the blue is not.


Nancy


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Re: CS>daughters infected wisdom tooth - 6v germkiller.

[Paula Perry]

In addition to what everyone else has been saying, there are a couple of other 
things that are effective. Tea Tree Oil dabbed on around the tooth and also 
Listerine mouthwash. There were some instructions about keeping the Listerine 
in the mouth for seven minutes to clear infected gums. I tried it and it worked 
for me when other things wern't intirely clearing it up.
Paula
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  From: gmetrop...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:46 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>daughters infected wisdom tooth - 6v germkiller.



  In a message dated 4/23/08 2:34:03 AM, new...@aapt.net.au writes:



ller/



  Does anyone have thses devices made for purchase? My daghter's at her wits 
end in pain and the silver and remedy aren't improving the situation.


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Re: CS>daughters infected wisdom tooth - 6v germkiller.

[Rowena]

To be honest, I think it would be quicker for you to find a 6v battery and 
attach a couple of lengths of wire from an old appliance.  You only need to 
screw or hook one end to the battery, and wrap a bit of rag around the other 
end.  You can tie a bit of cotton thread around to keep it together.  Then 
dampen it to let the current through.

Rowena


Does anyone have thses devices made for purchase? My daghter's at her wits end 
in pain and the silver and remedy aren't improving the situation.


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