date:20080605



 Lack of archives is a serious detriment to the value of this list.  
And I feel that loss is directly implicated in what I see as continuing 
deterioration. Very little actual CS info anymore.

sol




Clayton Family wrote:
ok, you did it now, and I was having so much fun, too! I sense you are 
getting a little crabby?


kathryn

On Jun 5, 2008, at 10:07 PM, da...@alchemysa.com.au wrote:

Mike, when can we expect the silverlist to move to a platform that 
helps keep topics on target, and has a usable archive. Its a shame to 
see all this info go down the drain every day.  This current setup 
doesn't exactly encourage the writing of well constructed or well 
researched contributions.





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Re: CS>Niceness and topics...

I dunno if it's nonsense or not.
I've got a treatise in my library "The Water Wizard" by  Viktor
Schauberger who discourses on the energy water picks up through
natural vortexes etc.
 I seldom scorn anything anymore.

Chuck
All prayers are answered;
doubt cancels prayer;
worry is prayer for things you don't want.

   - Don Hamerling

On 6/5/2008 10:29:50 PM, da...@alchemysa.com.au wrote:
>Mike
>
>It's disappointing you suddenly feel the need to protect the most  
>thin skinned members of the list from the mildest form of criticism.   
>I agree that personal abuse is certainly not acceptable. And  
>describing a person's posts as nonsense is also borderline. But to  
>decree that now we can't even describe a widely published theory as  
>nonsense is really stifling the debate. I never even mentioned Nenahs  
>name or addy in my original post but if Nenah wanted any dissenting  
>view shut down, it looks like, with your new rules, she has succeeded.
>


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Re: CS>Niceness and topics...

ok, you did it now, and I was having so much fun, too! I sense you are 
getting a little crabby?


kathryn

On Jun 5, 2008, at 10:07 PM, da...@alchemysa.com.au wrote:



From: "M. G. Devour" 
Date: 6 June 2008 12:06:14 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>[List Owner] Niceness and topics...


Hi folks,

I think it's past time now to end or migrate the several discussions 
of

water memory,



Actually, although there were a few posts labelled 'Water memory and 
magnetism' there has been almost no discussion about the actual topic. 
 Its been about truth, perception, Einstein, etc. Anyone wanting to 
read a worthwhile discussion about water memory would not have found 
one here. Maybe its been done to death in the past but who knows?


Mike, when can we expect the silverlist to move to a platform that 
helps keep topics on target, and has a usable archive. Its a shame to 
see all this info go down the drain every day.  This current setup 
doesn't exactly encourage the writing of well constructed or well 
researched contributions.


regards
David



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Re: CS>First batch

Good for you!   It is fun to use right away, it has more zing to it. 
What kind of machine did you get?


kathryn

On Jun 5, 2008, at 2:51 PM, Dee wrote:

Hi all, can anyone tell me when the batch is finished, how long do I 
have to leave it before using, or can you use it straight away?  Many 
thanks. Dee





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Re: CS>Re: Water memory and magnetize?


Hi David,

I saw Emoto here, and saw his photos, listened to his lecture. I was 
very impressed by his pictures. I disagreed pretty much entirely with 
the direction he took as far as explaining it all.


He did not say anything about water being permenently imprinted at all. 
His point was that when water froze, it was affected by subtle things 
in the environment. When it unfroze, it went back to being liquid 
water. And I know several people that believe his pictures are for 
real, and spent an enjoyable time discussing the possibilities with 
them.


There are alot of people looking for something to believe in, and this 
seems harmless enough. Seems to me he is inventing another religion, 
the worship of water (or maybe it is part of the old shinto religion, I 
don't know). That his pictures are being used to bolster other's ideas 
about the nature of water is inevitable. There are dissenting views on 
his work, too.


kathryn



On Jun 5, 2008, at 8:03 PM, da...@alchemysa.com.au wrote:

I tried to post this yesterday in answer to a number of posts 
specifically addressed at me.  I don't know if it got lost or blocked, 
but since reading Mike's post about 'niceness' (which I found quite 
disappointing) I've edited it to remove references that may be seen as 
insulting.  I'm trying to post it again.



On 05/06/2008, at 12:30 PM, da...@alchemysa.com.au wrote:

Nenah offers Masura Emoto as a high authority. By his own admission 
Emoto "undertook extensive research of water around the planet not so 
much as a scientific researcher (because he isn't one) but more from 
the perspective of an ORIGINAL THINKER".  Folks, please think 
carefully about what that really means while you read more of his 
dubious qualifications and theories. His 'water crystal' photographs 
prove nothing other than he's a talented photographer.  Everyone 
knows that all snow flakes are different, so its pretty obvious that 
ice crystals of pure clear water are going to be 'prettier' than 
crystals of dirty brown water, especially when carefully selected and 
interpreted via Emoto's perspective of 'original thinking'.  No-one 
but Emoto and his followers believes that these photos prove water 
can be 'imprinted', let alone that we can decode the meaning of these 
(non existent) imprints. And this guy is held up as one of the guru's 
in the field!



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CS>Niceness and topics...

2008-06-05 Thread david

From: "M. G. Devour" 
Date: 6 June 2008 12:06:14 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>[List Owner] Niceness and topics...

Hi folks,

I think it's past time now to end or migrate the several  
discussions of

water memory,

Actually, although there were a few posts labelled 'Water memory and  
magnetism' there has been almost no discussion about the actual  
topic.  Its been about truth, perception, Einstein, etc. Anyone  
wanting to read a worthwhile discussion about water memory would not  
have found one here. Maybe its been done to death in the past but who  
knows?

Mike, when can we expect the silverlist to move to a platform that  
helps keep topics on target, and has a usable archive. Its a shame to  
see all this info go down the drain every day.  This current setup  
doesn't exactly encourage the writing of well constructed or well  
researched contributions.

regards
David

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RE: CS>Niceness and topics...

2008-06-05 Thread bob Larson

...suddenly?

> -Original Message-
> It's disappointing you suddenly feel the need to protect the most  
> thin skinned members of the list from the mildest form of criticism.


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CS>Niceness and topics...

2008-06-05 Thread david

From: "M. G. Devour" 
Date: 6 June 2008 12:06:14 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>[List Owner] Niceness and topics...

Hi folks,

I think it's past time now to end or migrate the several  
discussions of

water memory, meta-(and other kinds of)-physics, reality, what is or
isn't electricity, and so on. Those topics are no longer relevant to
colloidal silver or other alternative health topics.

As for David's and Sol's remarks labelling the idea of dead water and
all that as "just total nonsense," I fear that that kind of statement
is not the best approach to use in a group like ours... Having all  
been

told at one time or another that colloidal silver and most other
alternative health concepts we are interested in are "just total
nonsense," I think a lot of us here will find that sort of expression
kinda insulting.

Mike

It's disappointing you suddenly feel the need to protect the most  
thin skinned members of the list from the mildest form of criticism.   
I agree that personal abuse is certainly not acceptable. And  
describing a person's posts as nonsense is also borderline. But to  
decree that now we can't even describe a widely published theory as  
nonsense is really stifling the debate. I never even mentioned Nenahs  
name or addy in my original post but if Nenah wanted any dissenting  
view shut down, it looks like, with your new rules, she has succeeded.

And, yes, the internet is full of folks who'll tell us that CS and
every other alternative concept we generally take for granted are all
hoaxes, scams and "junk science," and Google will bring them all to us
in living color. Should we believe them, too?

If a casual reader of the silverlist sees 'controversial' theories go  
unchallenged then it certainly doesn't help our cause of getting CS  
out of the hoax category. We will be tarred with the same brush by  
association.

One of the reasons colloidal silver has struggled to gain acceptance  
is because the hard scientific facts about CS have been swamped by  
the so-called 'proof' that is easily digested but so easily mocked.  
(Blue bloods, pharaohs, silver dollars in milk, etc, etc.). So, in  
case anyone missed it, there is in fact a small mountain of modern,  
indisputable, scientific, research providing REAL PROOF that silver  
kills germs. http://robholladay99.tripod.com/cs1index.htm

No, I haven't abandoned my sense of discernment or my essential
skepticism of unprovable claims, but I'm much slower these days to
label things as absolutely true or false.

So much "total nonsense" has
turned out to be important information that I reserve as much
skepticism for the nay-sayers as for the claimants.

If you feel strongly about something like this, then go ahead and
express it, but please refrain from rash declarations of "TRUTH" that
belittle the reader for holding any other opinion.

I made my point about this above.

regards
David

You don't *know*, you only *think* you know. 

Thank you,

Mike Devour
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CS>Re: Water memory and magnetize?

2008-06-05 Thread david

I tried to post this yesterday in answer to a number of posts  
specifically addressed at me.  I don't know if it got lost or  
blocked, but since reading Mike's post about 'niceness' (which I  
found quite disappointing) I've edited it to remove references that  
may be seen as insulting.  I'm trying to post it again.



On 05/06/2008, at 12:30 PM, da...@alchemysa.com.au wrote:

Nenah offers Masura Emoto as a high authority. By his own admission  
Emoto "undertook extensive research of water around the planet not  
so much as a scientific researcher (because he isn't one) but more  
from the perspective of an ORIGINAL THINKER".  Folks, please think  
carefully about what that really means while you read more of his  
dubious qualifications and theories. His 'water crystal'  
photographs prove nothing other than he's a talented photographer.   
Everyone knows that all snow flakes are different, so its pretty  
obvious that ice crystals of pure clear water are going to be  
'prettier' than crystals of dirty brown water, especially when  
carefully selected and interpreted via Emoto's perspective of  
'original thinking'.  No-one but Emoto and his followers believes  
that these photos prove water can be 'imprinted', let alone that we  
can decode the meaning of these (non existent) imprints. And this  
guy is held up as one of the guru's in the field!


 + Masaru Emoto www.hado.net (imprinting of water shown in  
photographs)


By the way, 'Dr' Emotos Alternative Medicine qualification comes  
from here...  http://www.altmeduniversity.com/



  (Nenah)  David, people in the US are light years behind other  
countries...


Yep, some are certainly still stuck in the dark ages. Although  
amazingly the one's most hooked by these new superstitions often  
see themselves as the most enlightened.


  (Nenah) Jacques Benveniste  www.digibio.com  (a  
conventionally trained scientist whose experiments taught him, much  
to his surprise, that water is indeed capable of being imprinted)
 + Masaru Emoto www.hado.net (imprinting of water shown in  
photographs)
 + anything by Glen Rein et al. (how our thoughts and coherent  
heart energy affect DNA, for starters -- Google Rein and Heart Math)
 + materials by others, lower half of page www.item-bioenergy.com/ 
infocenter/index.html
 + Lynne McTaggart: The Field (an excellent book summarizing the  
work of various physicists and scientists, including the late  
Benveniste)
 + James Oschman: Energy Medicine (another excellent book, highly  
respected, on the biology, anatomy and physiology of energy medicine)
 + Thompkins and Bird: The Secret Life of Plants (a classic book,  
well-written and still far ahead of its time, on various scientists  
in the field of energetics)
 + Nenah Sylver: Healing with Electromedicine and Sound Therapies,  
parts 1 and 2 (Townsend Letter, February-March and April-May 2008)


(Nenah)  The sources cited above speak for themselves.

They sure do and i hope the the readers will examine them FOR  
THEMSELVES.


(Nenah) I thought this group was for learning. If someone has a  
different opinion from you, can you accept that without trying to  
make others inferior to you?   Also, if you need to condemn or mock  
other people, what does that say about you?


It appears that the only learning you want to allow is the learning  
that agrees with you. Can't I 'learn people' something different?  
And I'm not trying to mock you. I'm just pointing out what I think  
of the idea of 'water memory', and the sources you quote.


 (Shep) As if David or anyone has any idea what reality is.  
Please explain gravity if you're the master of reality,or why a  
refrigerator magnet can cling endlessly without any power source.


Shep, I don't have to 'explain' or understand gravity or magnetism  
in order to know they exist. It's 'bleedin obvious' they exist and  
if I didn't accept it I would soon be dead. Nenah however is asking  
you to believe, and presumably change your lifestyle to  
accommodate, something that can neither be observed or measured by  
humans or instruments.


 (Shep) While your at it please explain time for us? Has any of  
us ever seen an atom? If I used the same logic for CS I'd be a  
smurf...by now, well supposedly...


I don't really understand your train of thought there, but theres  
no comparison between 'water memory' and CS because there is a ton  
of credible, measurable, repeatable research that proves silver  
kills germs. Theres no 'act of faith' required other than hoping it  
can do in a human body what it can demonstrably do in a petri dish.  
Here's over 100 papers that prove that silver kills germs... http:// 
robholladay99.tripod.com/cs1.htm


 (Shep) David wasn't being disrespectful, as much as, just  
being closed minded. When you look out of the box, you see a lonely  
simplicity.


You're kinda right about that Shep. I will not 'open' my mind to  
superstitions.


 (Marshall) Of intere

Re: CS>Facts, How can one be Ignorant ?

For some reason this thread reminds me of a claim my father often made. 
"My brother and I know everything"
When asked a question he couldn't answer he would always reply, "That is 
one of the things my brother knows".

sol



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Re: CS>Water memory and magnetize?


I'm sure, if I could only interest them in the problem.
It is very annoying.
sol

Dan Nave wrote:

 Maybe those are the guys to figure out what's up with your water...

  



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Re: CS>'lectricity

2008-06-05 Thread M1marine

THE BUSINESS END.  Ed.



**Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with 
Tyler Florence" on AOL Food.  
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Re: CS>silver and pregnacy

2008-06-05 Thread Ruth Bertella

Hey Annie!

My daughter took my homemade CS off and on during her last pregnancy (she's 
preggers again and expecting a girl 08/08/08!) and had a healthy, beautiful 
baby boy.  She breast fed him, but always kept some pumped and in the freezer 
for back up.  Anytime something was going around we'd put a half ounce or so in 
a bottle along with the breast milk as a precaution.  He's always been a very 
healthy little guy!

This time if she feels a little sniffle or "something" coming on, she takes the 
CS and hasn't been sick with a cold, flu, anything (except the dreaded morning 
sickness which has now passed).  

Hope this helps!
Ruth B.
  - Original Message - 
  From: "THE ADAMS FAMILY" 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 2:17 PM
  Subject: CS>silver and pregnacy


  is it even remotly harmful to take silver when pregnant?
  thanks
  annie

Re: CS>First batch

Thanks Chuck.  Dee 

---Original Message---

From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
Date: 05/06/2008 21:20:07
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>First batch

On 6/5/2008 3:51:35 PM, Dee  (d...@deetroy.org) wrote:
> Hi all, can anyone tell me when the batch is finished, how long do I have
> to leave it before using, or can you use it straight away?  Many thanks.
> Dee

Shine a light thru it.
If you don't have a pocket laser light (dollar store item), you could
jab a pinhole in a playing card and shine a flashlight thru it.

If you can see the beam in the water, that's the Tyndall effect, and
it confirms tha you now have silver in the water.
Try it on a container of your distilled, and you won't see it.

Yes, you can use it right away.

   Chuck
What is the definition of endless love?
  Stevie Wonder & Ray Charles
playing tennis!

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Re: CS>First batch

On 6/5/2008 3:51:35 PM, Dee  (d...@deetroy.org) wrote:
> Hi all, can anyone tell me when the batch is finished, how long do I have
> to leave it before using, or can you use it straight away?  Many thanks.
> Dee

Shine a light thru it.
If you don't have a pocket laser light (dollar store item), you could
jab a pinhole in a playing card and shine a flashlight thru it.

If you can see the beam in the water, that's the Tyndall effect, and
it confirms tha you now have silver in the water.
Try it on a container of your distilled, and you won't see it.

Yes, you can use it right away.

Chuck
What is the definition of endless love?
 Stevie Wonder & Ray Charles
playing tennis!

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Re: CS>What Advanced Toxic Flouridation Poisoning Looks Like

2008-06-05 Thread kmilkowski

The government is busy flouridating the water.

 Faith Gagne  wrote: 
> Wow.  That is awful.  where in hell is our government.  I'm sending this to 
> everyone I know.  thank you so much.  Faith G.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: 
> To: ; 
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 3:55 PM
> Subject: CS>What Advanced Toxic Flouridation Poisoning Looks Like
> 
> 
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Re: QUESTION = CS>Water can make some Sick, Some it Don't

On 6/5/2008 3:41:14 PM, mborg...@att.net wrote:
> what do you do with azomite?
> Garden? or human uses?
> Mary

Yes, both.
Great mineral source.
Damn shipping cost more than the product, but a bag goes forever for a
home gardener.
Use it for a mineral supplement for yourself, too.

http://azomite.com/story.html

Chuck
Statistically speaking, I am just a standard deviate.

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Re: CS>What Advanced Toxic Flouridation Poisoning Looks Like

2008-06-05 Thread Faith Gagne

Wow.  That is awful.  where in hell is our government.  I'm sending this to 
everyone I know.  thank you so much.  Faith G.


- Original Message - 
From: 

To: ; 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 3:55 PM
Subject: CS>What Advanced Toxic Flouridation Poisoning Looks Like



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX8ppB-wKEQ&feature=related


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CS>What Advanced Toxic Flouridation Poisoning Looks Like

2008-06-05 Thread kmilkowski

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX8ppB-wKEQ&feature=related


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CS>First batch

Hi all, can anyone tell me when the batch is finished, how long do I have to 
leave it before using, or can you use it straight away?  Many thanks. Dee 


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Re: QUESTION = CS>Water can make some Sick, Some it Don't

2008-06-05 Thread mborgert

what do you do with azomite?
Garden? or human uses?
Mary
-- Original message from Jeff Shepler : -- Yep, the body uses plant derived minerals and also the ionic forms in water...kelp is an excellent source , for iodine, too. If not we could eat dirt, most commercial mineral supplements are the wrong form. I mix Azomite in h2o , comes in 50lb bag...cheapShep
I think sol means we require more of those minerals than we can get just from the salt. There have been many discussions about mineral supplementation here before. On Jun 5, 2008, at 10:58 AM, Jeff Shepler wrote:
Yes and those trace minerals are so important for health... Shep
Sea salts are mostly sodium chloride, I've seen analyses of over 85% to 98%. Those trace minerals in sea salt really are traces. sol treblcl...@aol.com wrote:
Shep, Where is the chlorine coming from if you use unprocessed sea salt? And where is the sodium chloride coming from? Thanks in advance for your response. I'm really curious, that's all. = -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour

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CS>Plant derived minerals, What other kind ?

2008-06-05 Thread Wayne Fugitt


Evening Shep,

At 01:13 PM 6/5/2008, you wrote:

 Yep, the body uses plant derived minerals


You said a mouthful there, but it is not complete by any means.

I wonder what you really mean.

Not many, if any, chemists believe in Biological Transmutation.

Man is a genius chemist, often more so than a plant.

The plants are but one source of minerals, you know that.

I use mostly chelated minerals,  calcium, potassium, magnesium, and multi 
minerals.


I get a kick our of the organic people.

A molecule of nitrogen,  ( the kind a plant can eat ) is the same no matter 
if another plant made it,
man made it, or the soil and enzymes made it. No plant will eat  NH4, they 
eat only NO3.


Most chemists would agree with me.  I agree they may be chelated  and in 
different forms, at times.


But some forms, the plants will not eat.  They must be changed, ( chelated 
) by soil and enzymes,

unless MAN made them right the first time.

Wayne

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CS>Facts, How can one be Ignorant ?

2008-06-05 Thread Wayne Fugitt

Evening Dan,

As smart as you are, you missed the boat on that one.

I will explain.

>>At 12:22 PM 6/5/2008, you wrote:

Afternoon Wayne,
You wrote:
>One statement we should all know and use. ...
> "I am ignorant of that fact".
Now that really is an oxymoron.

   No, it is a Fact of Life.

If you are ignorant of it, you don't know enough to determine whether it
is a fact or not.   If you know enough to know it is a fact, then you are 
not ignorant of

it.

  This happens in a conversation with wise men,   and highly intelligent 
people.

Matter of fact, some of the smartest people I know.

When they tell you something, it is usually etched in stone.

In fact, one of the smartest people I have ever known taught me that statement.

And .. Often he stated,   "I am ignorant of that fact".
Because the people stating it was respected for their knowledge.

My theory holds water.  Not sure if yours does.  

I am ignorant about a lot of things.   You, Marshall, Simon, and Ode taught 
me many.

And others on the list have done likewise.

Now I am not as ignorant as I once was.

Of course I did not say, I am ignorant about everything.

I met with two engineers this week.  I taught them a few things.
I wondered why I was there.  They thought they knew everything.  But they 
realized they did not.

Can't recall anything they taught me.

Wayne,  RNX

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Re: CS>Whoopee!

Just off to buy one Chuck!  Dee 

---Original Message---

From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
Date: 05/06/2008 18:58:04
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Whoopee!

Congratulations, Dee!

Now be sure to wear a helmet to protect yourself from slapping
yourself in the forehead, for not doing this sooner...

Chuck

de ja fu - The feeling that somewhere, somehow you've been hit in the
head like this before.

Re: CS>Water memory and magnetize?

2008-06-05 Thread Malcolm Stebbins

'The Lathe of Heaven' by Ursula K. LeGuin

On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 11:15 -0400, Ode Coyote wrote:
> 
>The common factor is that we are not aware of what "mind" is or where 
> it's really located or how all of mind is connected behind that lack of 
> awareness despite how we may mis-define it..
> Therefore "symbols" can focus attention and appear to have magical powers.
>   Prayer, Reiki, Homeopathy  and the like do have provable, if inconsistent 
> effects that allow one to continue the illusion one chooses as to the 
> mechanism behind those effects.



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CS>[List Owner] Niceness and topics...

2008-06-05 Thread M. G. Devour

Hi folks,

I think it's past time now to end or migrate the several discussions of 
water memory, meta-(and other kinds of)-physics, reality, what is or 
isn't electricity, and so on. Those topics are no longer relevant to 
colloidal silver or other alternative health topics.

As for David's and Sol's remarks labelling the idea of dead water and 
all that as "just total nonsense," I fear that that kind of statement 
is not the best approach to use in a group like ours... Having all been 
told at one time or another that colloidal silver and most other 
alternative health concepts we are interested in are "just total 
nonsense," I think a lot of us here will find that sort of expression 
kinda insulting.

And, yes, the internet is full of folks who'll tell us that CS and 
every other alternative concept we generally take for granted are all 
hoaxes, scams and "junk science," and Google will bring them all to us 
in living color. Should we believe them, too?

No, I haven't abandoned my sense of discernment or my essential 
skepticism of unprovable claims, but I'm much slower these days to 
label things as absolutely true or false. So much "total nonsense" has 
turned out to be important information that I reserve as much 
skepticism for the nay-sayers as for the claimants.

If you feel strongly about something like this, then go ahead and 
express it, but please refrain from rash declarations of "TRUTH" that 
belittle the reader for holding any other opinion. 

You don't *know*, you only *think* you know. 

Thank you,

Mike Devour
silver-list owner

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Re: CS>'lectricity

2008-06-05 Thread Malcolm Stebbins

The other one, of course!  Sheesh!  

On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 10:07 -0500, Dan Nave wrote:
> >I have a piece of wire.  Which end should I put the 'lectricity into?
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> My son,
> 
>  
> 
> It depends  thou should putest the electricity into the positive end.
> 
>  
> 
>  the secret of illumination shall be thine forever.
> 
>  
> 
> Sri Coulomb V. Wattman, Master Electrician
> 
>  
> 
> Ohm Shankar

> > > > > 


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Re: QUESTION = CS>Water can make some Sick, Some it Don't

2008-06-05 Thread Jeff Shepler





   Yep, the body uses plant derived minerals and also the ionic forms
in water...kelp is an excellent source , for iodine, too. If not we
could eat dirt, most commercial mineral supplements are the wrong form.
I mix Azomite in h2o , comes in 50lb bag...cheap
Shep
I think sol means we require more of those minerals than
we can get just from the salt.  There have been many discussions about
mineral supplementation here before.
  
  
  
On Jun 5, 2008, at 10:58 AM, Jeff Shepler wrote:
  
  
      Yes and those trace minerals are so
important for health...

 Shep

Sea salts are mostly sodium chloride, I've
seen analyses of over 85% to 98%.
  
 Those trace minerals in sea salt really are traces.
  
 sol
  
  
treblcl...@aol.com wrote:
  
  Shep,

 Where is the chlorine coming from if you use unprocessed sea salt? 
And where is the sodium chloride coming from?  Thanks in advance for
your response.  I'm really curious, that's all.

  

 =

  
  

  
  
  
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Re: CS>Whoopee!

Congratulations, Dee!

Now be sure to wear a helmet to protect yourself from slapping
yourself in the forehead, for not doing this sooner...

Chuck

de ja fu - The feeling that somewhere, somehow you've been hit in the
head like this before.

On 6/5/2008 1:00:46 PM, Dee  (d...@deetroy.org) wrote:
> Just to let everyone know that I have my generator now and have my first
> batch brewing as I type this!  The little light thingy hasn't gone off so I 
> am presuming that the DW I bought is ok.  I think I might have to buy a 
> distiller though, as I can see that I will be using a lot!  Anyway, will let 
> you all know how it turns out and whether or not I manage to mess up!  Dee


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RE: CS>Water memory and magnetize?

 Maybe those are the guys to figure out what's up with your water...

Dan

> -Original Message-
> From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 7:55 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Water memory and magnetize?
> 
> Clayton Family wrote:
> > I did not read the cited website, but I do know for a fact that 
> > chemists have to know alot about physics. I know several 
> people that 
> > double majored in phys and chem, because there was so much 
> crossover.
> > When you throw in biological systems, it changes everything, and 
> > biochemistry is it's own field imho. And then 
> Electromedicine, that is 
> > so new it seems experimental to me.
>   Perhaps that is the root of my skepticism about at least 
> some of this stuff. My son was a chemistry major who switched 
> to physics, and went to graduate school in atomic physics. 
> Maybe it wasn't called that really, but it was the kind of 
> physics dealing with atoms, and all the particles smaller 
> than atoms, electrons, neutrons, etc. All those teeny weeny 
> little bits. My husband was also a chemistry major. It takes 
> some heavy duty proof to convince those two of anything they 
> consider junk science.
> sol


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CS>Fact

Afternoon Wayne,

You wrote: 

>One statement we should all know and use. ...
> 
> "I am ignorant of that fact".

Now that really is an oxymoron.  

If you are ignorant of it, you don't know enough to determine whether it
is a fact or not.  
If you know enough to know it is a fact, then you are not ignorant of
it.

Dan

> -Original Message-
> From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:cwa...@netdoor.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 4:56 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Water memory and magnetize?
> 
> Evening Kathryn,
> 
>  >>At 04:10 PM 6/4/2008, you wrote:
> >On Jun 4, 2008, at 3:40 PM, Jeff Shepler wrote:
> >and what background do you have that leads you to such 
> ideas? are you 
> >an anti science person, like many people I have met? sounds like you 
> >knpow some science, though, so maybe that's not it.
>  We are getting into some rather deep stuff.
> 
> The question is,  "What do we really know" ?   Anything ?
> 
> I might be an anti science persons.
> 
> I say, those two words, "Computer Science"  is like...
> 
> Federal Reserve
> Fairness Doctrine,
> 
> Two Words and Two Lies.
> 
> >>  what about atomic energy, you may think. It all goes to show that 
> >> the forces of nature can still be harnessed  even without 
> fully understanding them.
> >
>  OK maybe so.
> 
> >>Take electricity for example (and why not since every thing is
> >>energy)  we use it daily for all types of applications, but 
> we still 
> >>don't really know what it is. Which way does it flow, + to 
> - or - to +?
> >>You have the supposedly electron flow, but then you have 
> that nagging 
> >>hole flow theory!
> 
> 
> >>lol
> 
>Why laugh?  I thought it was true, . to some degree.
> 
>Pretty soon we will have to have a class on  "Fuzzy Logic".
> 
>One statement we should all know and use. ...
> 
> "I am ignorant of that fact".
> 
>   Wayne
> 
> =

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Re: CS>silver and pregnacy

2008-06-05 Thread M. G. Devour

Okay, Gang! Can we please hear some answers to Annie's question that
are NOT jokes? 

Annie,

Nobody can say with absolute certainty, but we have had first hand
reports of people whose wives/daughters etc. took CS during pregnancy
without harm to either mother or baby.

Keep in mind that "CS" as we talk about it on this list, is a
relatively low concentration (maybe 5 to 15 ppm), ionic and particulate
preparation made entirely with pure silver (99.9% pure or better), low-
voltage direct current electricity, and pure water (distilled) with no
additives of any kind.

Be well,

Mike D.

> Maybe, if you're a werewolf?
>
>  Chuck
> I received a card from my personal trainer.
>  It said, Merry Fitness and a Happy New Rear.
>
> On 6/4/2008 3:17:28 PM, "THE ADAMS FAMILY" (aad...@centurytel.net)
> wrote:
> > is it even remotly harmful to take silver when pregnant?
> > thanks
> > annie
>
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CS>Whoopee!

Just to let everyone know that I have my generator now and have my first batch 
brewing as I type this!  The little light thingy hasn't gone off so I am 
presuming that the DW I bought is ok.  I think I might have to buy a distiller 
though, as I can see that I will be using a lot!  Anyway, will let you all know 
how it turns out and whether or not I manage to mess up!  Dee  


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Re: QUESTION = CS>Water can make some Sick, Some it Don't

I have Himalayan salt.  Dee 

---Original Message---

From: sol
Date: 05/06/2008 15:41:11
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: QUESTION = CS>Water can make some Sick, Some it Don't

Sea salts are mostly sodium chloride, I've seen analyses of over 85% to 98%.
Those trace minerals in sea salt really are traces.
sol

Re: QUESTION = CS>Water can make some Sick, Some it Don't

I think sol means we require more of those minerals than we can get 
just from the salt.  There have been many discussions about mineral 
supplementation here before.



On Jun 5, 2008, at 10:58 AM, Jeff Shepler wrote:


    Yes and those trace minerals are so important for health...
 Shep
Sea salts are mostly sodium chloride, I've seen analyses of over 85% 
to 98%.

 Those trace minerals in sea salt really are traces.
 sol

treblcl...@aol.com wrote:

Shep,
 Where is the chlorine coming from if you use unprocessed sea salt?  
And where is the sodium chloride coming from?  Thanks in advance for 
your response.  I'm really curious, that's all.

  
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Re: QUESTION = CS>Water can make some Sick, Some it Don't

2008-06-05 Thread Jeff Shepler





   Yes and those trace minerals are so important for health...
Shep
Sea
salts are mostly sodium chloride, I've seen analyses of over 85% to
98%.
  
Those trace minerals in sea salt really are traces.
  
sol
  
  
treblcl...@aol.com wrote:
  
  Shep,

Where is the chlorine coming from if you use unprocessed sea salt?  And
where is the sodium chloride coming from?  Thanks in advance for your
response.  I'm really curious, that's all.

 

=

  
  
  
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Re: CS>Water memory and magnetize?

2008-06-05 Thread Faith Gagne

Ode:   You have a lot of thinking going on there, and your interesting 
remarks prompt me to mention the following book which I think you would 
enjoy if you haven't already read it.  I am posting a link to Amazon and if 
you scroll down the page you can read the editorial reviews on the book.  Be 
sure to scroll down more than half way to get all of the reviews.  A few of 
the reviews are terrible but that just tells me that the readers didn't 
"get" it.


www.amazon.com/Power-Now-Guide-Spiritual-Enlightenment/dp/1577314808/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1212680992&sr=1-1

Faith G.



- Original Message - 
From: "Ode Coyote" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Water memory and magnetize?





  The common factor is that we are not aware of what "mind" is or where 
it's really located or how all of mind is connected behind that lack of 
awareness despite how we may mis-define it..

Therefore "symbols" can focus attention and appear to have magical powers.
 Prayer, Reiki, Homeopathy  and the like do have provable, if inconsistent 
effects that allow one to continue the illusion one chooses as to the 
mechanism behind those effects.


Science is but repeatable magic held in the common mind for verification 
as a feed back loop.
The laws of physics are but a set of rules for playing this particular 
game of limitations.


Underneath self validating appearances, there are no "laws",  only a set 
of mutable probabilities.
..which strongly indicates that the symbols themselves [Physical reality 
itself ] are byproducts of denying the unlimited power of the mind, as and 
where, it really is.


What if the brain was a thought held in the mind  instead of vice versa ?
as a symbol of denial of connectivity like a good radio that tunes OUT 
the conflicting all-ness of every transmitter in order to pull in a 
cohesive identifiable program.


Like, light does not travel, it permeates.  It exceeds itself as we try to 
catch up to it by slowing down.
*Perception* has a sensory frequency band width bourne speed  limit that 
divides awareness of indivisible dimensions beyond any ideas about time 
and space that "creates" perception OF space and time, as a limit.
 Science has recently proven that communication is not limited by time OR 
space.an opening into a whole new set of rules should "brains" connect 
well and openly enough to hold that concept without conflicting in into 
non reception.


Not all beings adhere to our "laws".
..different game.

Be careful about what you believe, it may just change perception of 
reality in ways you won't care to experience in your validation feedback 
loops.
Probabilities are that which are as yet to be defined by perception 
validating its own limits.

Probabilities are limitless and only nothing, is impossible.

IOW, Water, being a memory, cannot hold memory, but it can re-mind you 
were you put it.

If that place appears to "you" to be there, so be it...true or not.
But you really put it everywhere which is where it always was and made 
yourself a doorway to access it through, validated by others experiencing 
the same illusion.

You can prove whatever you try to prove, to your own satisfaction.

You will find that water does not hold memory in a triple blind 
experiment, but does appear to if the blindness is either more universal 
OR more isolated, WITH all the proof you need to validate it.


The you that you currently believe you are, is but another of those 
doorways...a body of thought limits that "tunes" your ideas of existence 
into a set of probability limits.
If you dare step through that door, you lose your current body to a more 
open door.
But that invalidates all beliefs about preciously held 
identity.complete reality reorganization is a scary thing to do.
It means that so long as we believe we exist, we can never be completely 
"right" and existence perception itself, depends entirely upon being 
relatively wrong.


Some beings can deal with being wrong.
Humans have not arrived there as of yet?


But we are on the verge of being disillusioned by our own validation 
feedback loop conflicts.


It would be interesting to see if the human brains convolutions and 
divisions are a reflection in evolutionary awareness symbolism...but, we 
are not generally aware of anything to compare ourselves to.

 Have we peaked our own curiosity?

Some folks have and are rightthis is, what is.
Some have not and know that being wrong is the door to expansion.
...that being wrong is THE most precious right.

If we knew all the answers, there would be no questions.
Since there are a plethora of questions, making mistakes is what it takes 
to find the answers.

A being without error cannot move at all.

Don't you think you are wrong?
 I thought not.
Welcome to here and now forever.

The only power required to create a believable reality, is the proven 
belief that you can't do that, validated by succeeding.
The function of my every sens

Re: QUESTION = CS>Water can make some Sick, Some it Don't

2008-06-05 Thread Marshall Dudley


treblcl...@aol.com wrote:

Shep,
Where is the chlorine coming from if you use unprocessed sea salt?

The sea salt.


And where is the sodium chloride coming from?

The sea salt.

Marshall

Thanks in advance for your response.  I'm really curious, that's all.
 

 
In a message dated 6/4/2008 8:37:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
shep...@locl.net writes:


 I got rid of a bunch of stomach problems by increasing my
salt intake (unprocessed sea salt). Seems the body needs the
chlorine from the sodium chloride to make hydrochloric acid. No
more acid reflux, ulcer, and I can eat tomatoes and drink beer again!
Shep

I think it is strong stomach acid, LOL. I have read that
theoretically at least, stomach acid should kill ALL ingested
bacteria. Mine apparently doens't, but for those times I have CS.
sol






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Re: dissolved radon, was Re: distilled water harmful, was Re: CS>Re: food prep with cs

2008-06-05 Thread Marshall Dudley


Clayton Family wrote:
relatively short half life is what, 4 days? 

3.825 days.

anyway, it is a noble gas, so
no ions there. However, radium is not, so can be ionized I guess. Ode 
says

that granite can have problematic levels of radioactivity, so you can
check if you have a granitic bedrock. There sure does seem to be 
something
there, figuring out what is a little harder. Has your hubby or son 
thought

about it?  Either way, going through the machine twice seems to work.
The decay chain for Radon is pretty long, but most of the daughters have 
quite short half lives.


Marshall


kathryn

On Jun 4, 2008, at 7:29 PM, sol wrote:



Marshall Dudley

wrote:
Radon will outgas rather quickly, even more so if you heat it.  Even 
if left in a closed container it has a rather short half life,

although it does produce daughters of longer half life.


I don't think

radon will produce any ions by dissolving in water, and

thus would not

expect it to affect a uS reading.

So will the possible dissolved radon

simply cross over with the steam?

It will not distill out? Or won't distill

out easily--what I've

wondered is whether dissolved radon could be the

substance in the

water here that causes the phenomenon that .4 uS single

distilled

water will produce yellow CS, but take that water and distill

it

agian, the uS remains .4 uS, but after the second pass through the

still, it will make clear CS.

sol



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Re: CS>Water memory and magnetize?

2008-06-05 Thread Ode Coyote




  The common factor is that we are not aware of what "mind" is or where 
it's really located or how all of mind is connected behind that lack of 
awareness despite how we may mis-define it..

Therefore "symbols" can focus attention and appear to have magical powers.
 Prayer, Reiki, Homeopathy  and the like do have provable, if inconsistent 
effects that allow one to continue the illusion one chooses as to the 
mechanism behind those effects.


Science is but repeatable magic held in the common mind for verification as 
a feed back loop.
The laws of physics are but a set of rules for playing this particular game 
of limitations.


Underneath self validating appearances, there are no "laws",  only a set of 
mutable probabilities.
..which strongly indicates that the symbols themselves [Physical reality 
itself ] are byproducts of denying the unlimited power of the mind, as and 
where, it really is.


What if the brain was a thought held in the mind  instead of vice versa ?
as a symbol of denial of connectivity like a good radio that tunes OUT 
the conflicting all-ness of every transmitter in order to pull in a 
cohesive identifiable program.


Like, light does not travel, it permeates.  It exceeds itself as we try to 
catch up to it by slowing down.
*Perception* has a sensory frequency band width bourne speed  limit that 
divides awareness of indivisible dimensions beyond any ideas about time and 
space that "creates" perception OF space and time, as a limit.
 Science has recently proven that communication is not limited by time OR 
space.an opening into a whole new set of rules should "brains" connect 
well and openly enough to hold that concept without conflicting in 
into  non reception.


Not all beings adhere to our "laws".
..different game.

Be careful about what you believe, it may just change perception of reality 
in ways you won't care to experience in your validation feedback loops.
Probabilities are that which are as yet to be defined by perception 
validating its own limits.

Probabilities are limitless and only nothing, is impossible.

IOW, Water, being a memory, cannot hold memory, but it can re-mind you were 
you put it.

If that place appears to "you" to be there, so be it...true or not.
But you really put it everywhere which is where it always was and made 
yourself a doorway to access it through, validated by others experiencing 
the same illusion.

You can prove whatever you try to prove, to your own satisfaction.

You will find that water does not hold memory in a triple blind experiment, 
but does appear to if the blindness is either more universal OR more 
isolated, WITH all the proof you need to validate it.


The you that you currently believe you are, is but another of those 
doorways...a body of thought limits that "tunes" your ideas of existence 
into a set of probability limits.
If you dare step through that door, you lose your current body to a more 
open door.
But that invalidates all beliefs about preciously held 
identity.complete reality reorganization is a scary thing to do.
It means that so long as we believe we exist, we can never be completely 
"right" and existence perception itself, depends entirely upon being 
relatively wrong.


Some beings can deal with being wrong.
Humans have not arrived there as of yet?


But we are on the verge of being disillusioned by our own validation 
feedback loop conflicts.


It would be interesting to see if the human brains convolutions and 
divisions are a reflection in evolutionary awareness symbolism...but, we 
are not generally aware of anything to compare ourselves to.

 Have we peaked our own curiosity?

Some folks have and are rightthis is, what is.
Some have not and know that being wrong is the door to expansion.
...that being wrong is THE most precious right.

If we knew all the answers, there would be no questions.
Since there are a plethora of questions, making mistakes is what it takes 
to find the answers.

A being without error cannot move at all.

Don't you think you are wrong?
 I thought not.
Welcome to here and now forever.

The only power required to create a believable reality, is the proven 
belief that you can't do that, validated by succeeding.

The function of my every sense is to prove to my self that I can't fool myself.

Ode


At 01:22 PM 6/4/2008 -0400, you wrote:

Nenah Sylver wrote:


- Original Message -
From: mailto:da...@alchemysa.com.au>>
To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 1:55 AM
Subject: CS>Water memory and magnetize?

> Sorry but I think this is just total nonsense.  Don't fall for this > 
fantasy or waste your time worrying that your water is somehow > 
'inferior' or is 'dead'. There is absolutely no credible proof that > 
water can be magnetized or has a memory.
Actually there is.  Take some distilled water and run it in a UV scanning 
photospectrometer. Then apply a magnetic field to it or apply healing 
hands and run it again.  The firs

CS>'lectricity

>I have a piece of wire.  Which end should I put the 'lectricity into?

 

  

My son,

 

It depends on whether you subscribe to the hole flow or the electron
flow theory of electricity. In other words, whether you belong to the
Technician school or the Engineering school.

 

Listen to the teaching of the not-so-ancient ones, and heed it well:

 

If thou belongest to the Technician school, put the electricity into the
negative end of the wire. If, on the other hand, thou subscribest to the
Engineering school (which some feel to be a higher discipline) thou
should putest the electricity into the positive end.

 

If thou takest this teaching to heart, the electricity should flow in
thine wire, and soon the light which is output thereby shall reach even
unto the furthest corners of thine room and the secret of illumination
shall be thine forever.

 

Sri Coulomb V. Wattman, Master Electrician

 

Ohm Shankar

 

 




From: Jeff Shepler [mailto:shep...@locl.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 3:41 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Water memory and magnetize?


   Good is a concept. He is using flawed models of reality.
Einstein was an egotistical quack (not just my opinion). But what about
atomic energy, you may think. It all goes to show that the forces of
nature can still be harnessed  even without fully understanding them.
Take electricity for example (and why not since every thing is energy)
we use it daily for all types of applications, but we still don't really
know what it is. Which way does it flow, + to - or - to +? You have the
supposedly electron flow, but then you have that nagging hole flow
theory! I really liked the time explanation! It really could be that
simple, lol...
Shep


Marshall gave you some good answers, thanks, Marshall.
I remember doing the equasions years ago, but do not remember the
specifics. 


On Jun 4, 2008, at 12:25 PM, Jeff Shepler wrote: 



As if David or anyone has any idea what
reality is. Please explain gravity if you're the master of reality,or
why a refrigerator magnet can cling endlessly without any power source.
Why does light slow down when it enters water only to speed up upon
exiting? Don't these examples go against the theory of quantum
mechanics? While your at it please explain time for us? Has any of us
ever seen an atom? If I used the same logic for CS I'd be a smurf...by
now, well supposedly... 
 Shep 


David, 
  Thanks! For injecting some reality
into this discussion. 
 sol 

da...@alchemysa.com.au wrote: 



  healthiest and most economical to make
distilled,add ionic  minerals, erase the memory and magnetize 


-- 
 That's what I would do if I had the
equipment. However, I would ...  erase the memory, magnetize,..

CS>Electrinium Battery

I have a pdf file describing a theoretical permanent solid state battery
which is supposed to produce voltage like a permanent magnet produces
magnetism.  I could forward it if anyone is interested.

Best to request it from me directly at

dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com

rather than requesting it on the silver-list.  

"COSMIC RADIANT ENERGY and the ELECTRINIUM BATTERY" by Arthur P. Summera

"The solid state, high voltage battery that is electric, like the magnet
is magnetic"

Dan

> -Original Message-
> From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 12:49 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Water memory and magnetize?
> 
> Jeff Shepler wrote:
> >As if David or anyone has any idea what reality is. 
> Please explain 
> > gravity if you're the master of reality,
> It is a macro version of the casimir force, a direct result 
> of the ZPE field.
> > or why a refrigerator magnet can cling endlessly without 
> any power source.
> It does have a power source, it draws its power from the ZPE, 
> same reason that electrons don't spiral down into their nuclei.
> > Why does light slow down when it enters water only to speed up upon 
> > exiting?
> Because the speed of light is set by the electric field's 
> permitivity and magnetic fields permability, which are higher 
> for water than a vacuum. This comes out  of the equations 
> which are derived from the action of the ZPE field.
> > Don't these examples go against the theory of quantum mechanics? 
> Not at all.  In fact quantum mechanics and their experiments 
> have established the reality of the ZPE.
> > While your at it please explain time for us? 
> Keeps everything from happening all at once.
> > Has any of us ever seen an atom? 
> An atom is smaller than the wavelength of light, and thus 
> cannot be imaged via light. It can however be "seen" using a 
> scanning tunneling microscope, which uses the tunneling 
> phenomenon caused by the ZPE to display atoms. I have seen these.
> 
> Marshall
> > If I used the same logic for CS I'd be a smurf...by now, well 
> > supposedly...
> > Shep
> >> David,
> >>  Thanks! For injecting some reality into this discussion.
> >> sol
> >>
> >> da...@alchemysa.com.au wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  healthiest and most economical to make distilled,add ionic 
> >>> minerals, erase the memory and magnetize
>  --
>  That's what I would do if I had the equipment. However, 
> I would ...  
>  erase the memory, magnetize,..
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sorry but I think this is just total nonsense.  Don't 
> fall for this 
> >>> fantasy or waste your time worrying that your water is somehow 
> >>> 'inferior' or is 'dead'. There is absolutely no credible 
> proof that 
> >>> water can be magnetized or has a memory.
> >>>
> >>> Google 'magnetised water myths' or 'scams' or 'hoaxes' and you'll 
> >>> find plenty of perfectly reasonable explanations about this junk 
> >>> science.
> >>> http://www.chem1.com/CQ/magwatscams.html
> >>>
> >>> Water is either pure or impure. If its unpleasent or has 
> gone 'off' 
> >>> then thats simply because its got impurities or bacteria 
> in it, not 
> >>> because its lost its 'energy' or some other bogus characteristic.
> >>>


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Sea salts are mostly sodium chloride, I've seen analyses of over 85% to 98%.
Those trace minerals in sea salt really are traces.
sol

treblcl...@aol.com wrote:

Shep,
Where is the chlorine coming from if you use unprocessed sea salt?  
And where is the sodium chloride coming from?  Thanks in advance for 
your response.  I'm really curious, that's all.
 
=



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