Re: CSRe: The Healing Universe Rife links

[Smitty]

(from Mike)

 Dear Neville,


  You wrote:
   Yep, I have a 7 page story about Dr. Rife but damned if I can find it on
   the internet again to give a link to it.c.c.c.

Mike:I was able to send Neville the original Doc
and he confirmed that it was the one he referred to.
When I couldn't post it on the silver list, I took your advice
and split it into part 1  part 2.

Smitty


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CSpositive silver ions and negatively charged bacteria

[Bethany Methven]

Hi, I'm new to this list.  Here in Alaska, very few people actually know about 
CS.  I am trying to learn as much as I can so that I can educate those around 
me.  I have been studying about the positive charge from silver ions losing an 
electron during the electro colloidal process.  Anyway, my question is -  Does 
anyone know if all bacteria, fungus, viruses, etc are negatively charged?  Some 
web site was talking about how the positive charge from the silver ions 
attracts to the negative charge of the bacteria, and then basically short 
circuits it's biological clock, making it unable to reproduce.   If this is 
true, then how effective are silver particles, if they are negatively charged, 
vs. the positive charge of the ions?  I have heard so much confusion regarding 
ions vs. particles.   Id like to hear some other opinions.  Thanks -  Beth

 
Methven Colloidal Silver - Try a natural antibiotic that has been used for 
thousands of years!  (907) 357-8954


  

Re: CSRe: The Healing Universe Rife links

[Neville]

Hi there Mike,

Yes, you certainly got that right about 'google' which is why I am sad to 
say I will never get a good handle on it.  Just had a thought, maybe I talk 
to 'it' as I tend to talk in real life, which is perhaps why I never seem to 
get the 'right' answers. g


Thanks very much for that though, I may do some more reading.  Oh, I believe 
Smitty came up with the exact article I was trying to find again, from a 
different source maybe, but it was the same article.


Cheers...Neville.

- Original Message - 
From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: CSRe: The Healing Universe Rife links



Dear Neville,

You wrote:

Yep, I have a 7 page story about Dr. Rife but damned if I can find it on
the internet again to give a link to it


I just took the following tiny random snippet of the text you quoted
and put it inside quote marks in the Google search window...

refused to publish any paper by anyone on Rife's therapy

The quotes make Google look for that exact phrase, which yielded dozens
of hits. This doesn't really give us the source of it, but gives you
many places where the same text is used. I only glanced at one site,
but you might find references to where the piece came from originally
if you dig a little more.

Google is our friend, but sometimes needs to be asked *just right!*
grin

Be well,

Mike D.

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself...   ]


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CSWhy do we say such things

[Wayne Fugitt]

Morning Neville,

 At 02:22 AM 10/29/2008, you wrote:
 I am sad to say I will never get a good handle on it.
 which is perhaps why I never seem to get the 'right' answers.

  Often I wonder why you say

   Unless

 You are trying to conceal the fact from us, that
You are a genius.

  Never fear,  Some of us figure out such things anyway.

   I doubt that you have any memory problem or brain damage or you 
would tell us.   CS would cure that anyway.


I never make any excuses for why I am wrong, why I am a nut and 
why I am irrational.  Or why I am wrong.


I am just a dumb old redneck that is not suppose to be on top of 
the stack.


Often we are wrong because of no fault of our own.
Someone told us wrong, or lied to us.

If one reads all the mainstream articles and documents, he will 
be wrong more than he is right.


I thought everyone knew that.

Many people that wear hats, shirts, and boots with the
word,  Alternative written all over them, turn right around and
quote mainstream lies.   Heaven forbid, where did the wisdom go ?

I know, some will think all that is a rigamaroe.  Many that think 
that, are a rigamaroe themselves or lack understanding.


You did not have to quote all of Mikes message.  I already had two copies,
now I have three.

Wayne

He who is good for making excuses, is seldom good for anything else.





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Re: CSWhy do we say such things

[Neville]

Morning to you Wayne,

Quote:
[I doubt that you have any memory problem or brain damage or you would tell 
us.   CS would cure that anyway.]
-I had hoped the 'brain damage' part could have been used as an 'excuse' for 
my attitude, maybe CS caused that, I'll blame CS anyway as literature would 
have me believe it causes a lot of other things. g  Alas, the memory can 
be appalling at times, and not by design either I'm afraid.


[If one reads all the mainstream articles and documents, he will be wrong 
more than he is right.]
- Ah-Ha, now this is where I do believe I'm right, I've read enough 
mainstream articles and documents to be pretty much sure I am right, (with 
regards to CS of course).  Don't you forget now, I'm a man of 'conviction'. 
g


[I never make any excuses for why I am wrong, why I am a nut and why I am 
irrational.  Or why I am wrong.]
-I have been known to be wrong in the past Wayne, I just can't remember 
when! g and I guess I must be a nut cos aren't all people who drink CS 
supposed to be 'nuts'? and when I'm wrong no-one forgets, but when I'm right 
no-one remembers!  Seems like a lose-lose situation to me. g


[You did not have to quote all of Mikes message.  I already had two copies, 
now I have three.]

-That was just plain laziness on my part.  Must try and lift my game there.

[He who is good for making excuses, is seldom good for anything else.]
-Well, it's as good a cover as any to hide the attitude and keep a civil 
tongue in my head.  You know how hard it is to be humble when one has 
'convictions'. g


Enough of this frivolity or Mike will shout at me.

Have a good day Wayne...N.



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CSTainted Food Alert!

[kmilkowski]

From: Brasscheck TV
Date: 10/29/2008 8:36:14 AM
To: Linda
Subject: Brasscheck TV: NEWS BULLETIN
 
 
I don't often send bulletins, but this is
potentially very serious.
 
You have probably heard of the deliberate
adulteration of infant formula with melamine
in China.
 
It killed and injured thousands of children
there.
 
What you don't know - because the FDA and others
don't want you to know - is that as much as
20 million TONS of Chinese manufactured milk powder
and products containing milk powder were imported into
the US from China this year.
 
Now please read the next part very carefully:
 
The US...is the ONLY country...including China...
that has NOT pulled food products containing
milk powder manufactured in China off its
shelves.
 
Please re-reread the previous paragraph carefully.
 
The person blowing the whistle on this is
an expert in toy manufacturing who stumbled
on this while researching this season's
Halloween candy offerings.
 
He has found candy manufactured in China
with milk powder widely being sold in
US stores.
 
Obviously, I have not had time to check all the
facts, but knowing the parties involved - China,
the FDA, the Bush administration, and corporate
America - I have no doubt that this is not only
highly plausible, it's highly likely.
 
It's serious.
 
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/460.html
 
- Brasscheck
 
P.S. Please share this with friends and colleagues
so they can make informed decisions about what
they eat.
 
Do not eat or feed to your children any food
made with milk powder manufactured in China.
 
 
 
 
- Brasscheck
 
P.S. Please share Brasscheck TV e-mails and
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Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

[mborgert]

Another alert
All of my clients have and use with bare hands that little white pad known as mr clean or any number of brands, it is made from malamine.

I have seen children use it and than put their hands in their mouths, I try and warn anyone but everyone loves the poison.

I cannot get anyone yet to throw it away. My clients wonder why their children are sick.

This poison and many others are just a few feet away, under every sink,in every utility room in America.

Mary
-- Original message from kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com: --   From: Brasscheck TV  Date: 10/29/2008 8:36:14 AM  To: Linda  Subject: Brasscheck TV: NEWS BULLETINI don't often send bulletins, but this is  potentially very serious.   You have probably heard of the deliberate  adulteration of infant formula with melamine  in China.   It killed and injured thousands of children  there.   What you don't know - because the FDA and others  don't want you to know - is that as much as  20 million TONS of Chinese manufactured milk powder  and products containing milk powder were imported into  the US from China this year.   Now please read the next part very carefully:   The US...is the ONLY country...including China...  that has NOT pulled food products containing  milk powder manufactured in China off its  shelves.   Please re-reread the previous paragraph carefully.   The person blowing the whistle on this is  an expert in toy manufacturing who stumbled  on this while researching this season's  Halloween candy offerings.   He has found candy manufactured in China  with milk powder widely being sold in  US stores.   Obviously, I have not had time to check all the  facts, but knowing the parties involved - China,  the FDA, the Bush administration, and corporate  America - I have no doubt that this is not only  highly plausible, it's highly likely.   It's serious.   http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/460.html   - Brasscheck   P.S. Please share this with friends and colleagues  so they can make informed decisions about what  they eat.   Do not eat or feed to your children any food  made with milk powder manufactured in China.  - Brasscheck   P.S. Please share Brasscheck TV e-mails and  videos with friends and colleagues.   That's how we grow. Thanks.--  The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.   Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org   To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com   Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com   The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down...   List maintainer: Mike Devour   

RE: CSTainted Food Alert!

[Carl Deb Charter]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUB79WJ9ktQ

-Original Message-
From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com [mailto:kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:15 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com; lymec...@yahoogroups.com;
lymestrateg...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: CSTainted Food Alert!



From: Brasscheck TV
Date: 10/29/2008 8:36:14 AM
To: Linda
Subject: Brasscheck TV: NEWS BULLETIN
 
 
I don't often send bulletins, but this is
potentially very serious.
 
You have probably heard of the deliberate
adulteration of infant formula with melamine
in China.
 
It killed and injured thousands of children
there.
 
What you don't know - because the FDA and others
don't want you to know - is that as much as
20 million TONS of Chinese manufactured milk powder
and products containing milk powder were imported into
the US from China this year.
 
Now please read the next part very carefully:
 
The US...is the ONLY country...including China...
that has NOT pulled food products containing
milk powder manufactured in China off its
shelves.
 
Please re-reread the previous paragraph carefully.
 
The person blowing the whistle on this is
an expert in toy manufacturing who stumbled
on this while researching this season's
Halloween candy offerings.
 
He has found candy manufactured in China
with milk powder widely being sold in
US stores.
 
Obviously, I have not had time to check all the
facts, but knowing the parties involved - China,
the FDA, the Bush administration, and corporate
America - I have no doubt that this is not only
highly plausible, it's highly likely.
 
It's serious.
 
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/460.html
 
- Brasscheck
 
P.S. Please share this with friends and colleagues
so they can make informed decisions about what
they eat.
 
Do not eat or feed to your children any food
made with milk powder manufactured in China.
 
 
 
 
- Brasscheck
 
P.S. Please share Brasscheck TV e-mails and
videos with friends and colleagues.
 
That's how we grow. Thanks.


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Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

[Marshall Dudley]

The real problem for consumers is the milk powder that was imported and 
incorporated into products in the US.  The county of origin shown on the 
packaging is the final producer, and there is no hint that there is any 
food in it from China.


As fro the FDA, any time they say something is safe, it is a big red flag.

Marshall

kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com wrote:

From: Brasscheck TV
Date: 10/29/2008 8:36:14 AM
To: Linda
Subject: Brasscheck TV: NEWS BULLETIN
 
 
I don't often send bulletins, but this is

potentially very serious.
 
You have probably heard of the deliberate

adulteration of infant formula with melamine
in China.
 
It killed and injured thousands of children

there.
 
What you don't know - because the FDA and others

don't want you to know - is that as much as
20 million TONS of Chinese manufactured milk powder
and products containing milk powder were imported into
the US from China this year.
 
Now please read the next part very carefully:
 
The US...is the ONLY country...including China...

that has NOT pulled food products containing
milk powder manufactured in China off its
shelves.
 
Please re-reread the previous paragraph carefully.
 
The person blowing the whistle on this is

an expert in toy manufacturing who stumbled
on this while researching this season's
Halloween candy offerings.
 
He has found candy manufactured in China

with milk powder widely being sold in
US stores.
 
Obviously, I have not had time to check all the

facts, but knowing the parties involved - China,
the FDA, the Bush administration, and corporate
America - I have no doubt that this is not only
highly plausible, it's highly likely.
 
It's serious.
 
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/460.html
 
- Brasscheck
 
P.S. Please share this with friends and colleagues

so they can make informed decisions about what
they eat.
 
Do not eat or feed to your children any food

made with milk powder manufactured in China.
 
 
 
 
- Brasscheck
 
P.S. Please share Brasscheck TV e-mails and

videos with friends and colleagues.
 
That's how we grow. Thanks.



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Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

[kmilkowski]

How can you say such a thing about those nice folks over at the food and death 
administration??

Kurt
 Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: 
 The real problem for consumers is the milk powder that was imported and 
 incorporated into products in the US.  The county of origin shown on the 
 packaging is the final producer, and there is no hint that there is any 
 food in it from China.
 
 As fro the FDA, any time they say something is safe, it is a big red flag.
 
 Marshall
 
 kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com wrote:
  From: Brasscheck TV
  Date: 10/29/2008 8:36:14 AM
  To: Linda
  Subject: Brasscheck TV: NEWS BULLETIN
   
   
  I don't often send bulletins, but this is
  potentially very serious.
   
  You have probably heard of the deliberate
  adulteration of infant formula with melamine
  in China.
   
  It killed and injured thousands of children
  there.
   
  What you don't know - because the FDA and others
  don't want you to know - is that as much as
  20 million TONS of Chinese manufactured milk powder
  and products containing milk powder were imported into
  the US from China this year.
   
  Now please read the next part very carefully:
   
  The US...is the ONLY country...including China...
  that has NOT pulled food products containing
  milk powder manufactured in China off its
  shelves.
   
  Please re-reread the previous paragraph carefully.
   
  The person blowing the whistle on this is
  an expert in toy manufacturing who stumbled
  on this while researching this season's
  Halloween candy offerings.
   
  He has found candy manufactured in China
  with milk powder widely being sold in
  US stores.
   
  Obviously, I have not had time to check all the
  facts, but knowing the parties involved - China,
  the FDA, the Bush administration, and corporate
  America - I have no doubt that this is not only
  highly plausible, it's highly likely.
   
  It's serious.
   
  http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/460.html
   
  - Brasscheck
   
  P.S. Please share this with friends and colleagues
  so they can make informed decisions about what
  they eat.
   
  Do not eat or feed to your children any food
  made with milk powder manufactured in China.
   
   
   
   
  - Brasscheck
   
  P.S. Please share Brasscheck TV e-mails and
  videos with friends and colleagues.
   
  That's how we grow. Thanks.
 
 
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Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

[Marshall Dudley]

Let me say that first of all, that the guy in the video is wrong about 
them using scrap melamine polymers in the China milk.  Melamine polymer 
is a very stable plastic which not only would pass through one's 
digestive system unchanged and unabsorbed, but also would not yield any 
increase in detected nitrogen when testing for protein  which was the 
purpose of adding the melamine. In addition, it would form a kind of 
grit, which would be very easy to detect, it is insoluble, and all you 
have to do is mix the milk powder with water, and if it is there, it 
will be on the bottom and easily detected.


What they were adding is melamine MONOMER. This is the liquid which 
polymerizes when heated to form melamine plastic after crosslinking with 
formaldehyde.  The stuff is very dangerous from a health standpoint, 
just as other monomers are, such as styrene, methyl methacrylate, and 
polyester resin (Bondo and Clear Cast for example).  Just breathing any 
of these monomers can make you sick, yet the plastics themselves are ALL 
FDA approved for use with foods.  Heck, most of us have counter tops 
made of melamine ( Formica and Micarta are examples), and most plastic 
dishes are made from it as well. When the monomer is ingested, the 
kidneys will remove it, and it is toxic. But also when combined with 
urea and in the environment of the urine, it tends to polymerized, 
forming plastic inside the kidneys and kidney and bladder stones.  Also 
it can produce cyanuric acid crystals which can lead to kidney failure.  
The stones are not only very serious, but unlike most toxins that will 
eventually be flushed out, will likely remain there for the rest of the 
entity's life.


However, that being said, there CAN be some leaching of unpolymerized  
melamine monomer and formaldehyde used to crosslink in melamine 
plastics. There is an article on this at 
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/tandf/tfac/2006/0023/0009/art00010 
.  Thus I would highly recommend washing any melamine dishes in a 
dishwasher, and using the heated drying cycle before using them.  Using 
scrubbing pads made of melamine properly should not be a problem, but I 
would not  put it in my mouth since very small amounts of both 
formaldehyde and melamine monomer could leach out.


Also see 
http://www.sciencebase.com/science-blog/melamine-and-kidney-failure.html 
for confirmation of what I am saying.
Melamine monomer, as opposed to the plastic used to make kitchen 
utensils and table coverings, itself also has irritant properties. It 
has been added to various food products to illicitly and fraudulently 
boost the measured protein content without the expense of actually 
improving the food’s nutritional value.


Marshall



mborg...@att.net wrote:

Another alert
All of my clients have and use with bare hands that little white pad 
known as mr clean or any number of brands, it is made from malamine.
 
I have seen children use it and than put their hands in their mouths, 
I try and warn anyone but everyone loves the poison.
 
I cannot get anyone yet to throw it away.  My clients wonder why their 
children are sick.
 
This poison and many others are just a few feet away, under every 
sink,in every utility room in America.
 
Mary


-- Original message from kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com:
--



 From: Brasscheck TV
 Date: 10/29/2008 8:36:14 AM
 To: Linda
 Subject: Brasscheck TV: NEWS BULLETIN


 I don't often send bulletins, but this is
 potentially very serious.

 You have probably heard of the deliberate
 adulteration of infant formula with melamine
 in China.

 It killed and injured thousands of children
 there.

 What you don't know - because the FDA and others
 don't want you to know - is that as much as
 20 million TONS of Chinese manufactured milk powder
 and products containing milk powder were imported into
 the US from China this year.

 Now please read the next part very carefully:

 The US...is the ONLY country...including China...
 that has NOT pulled food products containing
 milk powder manufactured in China off its
 shelves.

 Please re-reread the previous paragraph carefully.

 The person blowing the whistle on this is
 an expert in toy manufacturing who stumbled
 on this while researching this season's
 Halloween candy offerings.

 He has found candy manufactured in China
 with milk powder widely being sold in
 US stores.

 Obviously, I have not had time to check all the
 facts, but knowing the parties involved - China,
 the FDA, the Bush administration, and corporate
 America - I have no doubt that this is not only
 highly plausible, it's highly likely.

 It's serious.

 http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/460.html

 - Brasscheck

 P.S. Please share this with friends and colleagues
 so 

RE: CSpositive silver ions and negatively charged bacteria

[Norton, Steve]

Relative to bacteria, from Wikipedia: 

There are two main types of bacterial cell walls, Gram positive and Gram
negative, which are differentiated by their Gram staining
characteristics. 

Gram positive:

Teichoic acids give the Gram positive cell wall an overall negative
charge due to the presence of phosphodiester bonds between teichoic acid
monomers.

Gram negative:

In addition to the peptidoglycan layer, the Gram negative cell wall also
contains an additional outer membrane composed by phospholipids and
lipopolysaccharides which face into the external environment. As the
lipopolysaccharides are highly-charged, the Gram negative cell wall has
an overall negative charge.

From what I have read, viruses have a slight negative charge at neutral
PH.

- Steve N




From: Bethany Methven [mailto:mrs_ak_h...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:38 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSpositive silver ions and negatively charged bacteria



Hi, I'm new to this list.  Here in Alaska, very few people actually know
about CS.  I am trying to learn as much as I can so that I can educate
those around me.  I have been studying about the positive charge from
silver ions losing an electron during the electro colloidal process.
Anyway, my question is -  Does anyone know if all bacteria, fungus,
viruses, etc are negatively charged?  Some web site was talking about
how the positive charge from the silver ions attracts to the negative
charge of the bacteria, and then basically short circuits it's
biological clock, making it unable to reproduce.   If this is true, then
how effective are silver particles, if they are negatively charged, vs.
the positive charge of the ions?  I have heard so much confusion
regarding ions vs. particles.   Id like to hear some other opinions.
Thanks -  Beth

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

[kmilkowski]

Good info Marshall.. Whatever it is, it did make an awful lot of kids sick 
in China along with killing a bunch. Better to be safe than sorry, the more 
information you can read through the better, thanks,

Kurt
 Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: 
 Let me say that first of all, that the guy in the video is wrong about 
 them using scrap melamine polymers in the China milk.  Melamine polymer 
 is a very stable plastic which not only would pass through one's 
 digestive system unchanged and unabsorbed, but also would not yield any 
 increase in detected nitrogen when testing for protein  which was the 
 purpose of adding the melamine. In addition, it would form a kind of 
 grit, which would be very easy to detect, it is insoluble, and all you 
 have to do is mix the milk powder with water, and if it is there, it 
 will be on the bottom and easily detected.
 
 What they were adding is melamine MONOMER. This is the liquid which 
 polymerizes when heated to form melamine plastic after crosslinking with 
 formaldehyde.  The stuff is very dangerous from a health standpoint, 
 just as other monomers are, such as styrene, methyl methacrylate, and 
 polyester resin (Bondo and Clear Cast for example).  Just breathing any 
 of these monomers can make you sick, yet the plastics themselves are ALL 
 FDA approved for use with foods.  Heck, most of us have counter tops 
 made of melamine ( Formica and Micarta are examples), and most plastic 
 dishes are made from it as well. When the monomer is ingested, the 
 kidneys will remove it, and it is toxic. But also when combined with 
 urea and in the environment of the urine, it tends to polymerized, 
 forming plastic inside the kidneys and kidney and bladder stones.  Also 
 it can produce cyanuric acid crystals which can lead to kidney failure.  
 The stones are not only very serious, but unlike most toxins that will 
 eventually be flushed out, will likely remain there for the rest of the 
 entity's life.
 
 However, that being said, there CAN be some leaching of unpolymerized  
 melamine monomer and formaldehyde used to crosslink in melamine 
 plastics. There is an article on this at 
 http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/tandf/tfac/2006/0023/0009/art00010
  
 .  Thus I would highly recommend washing any melamine dishes in a 
 dishwasher, and using the heated drying cycle before using them.  Using 
 scrubbing pads made of melamine properly should not be a problem, but I 
 would not  put it in my mouth since very small amounts of both 
 formaldehyde and melamine monomer could leach out.
 
 Also see 
 http://www.sciencebase.com/science-blog/melamine-and-kidney-failure.html 
 for confirmation of what I am saying.
 Melamine monomer, as opposed to the plastic used to make kitchen 
 utensils and table coverings, itself also has irritant properties. It 
 has been added to various food products to illicitly and fraudulently 
 boost the measured protein content without the expense of actually 
 improving the food’s nutritional value.
 
 Marshall
 
 
 
 mborg...@att.net wrote:
  Another alert
  All of my clients have and use with bare hands that little white pad 
  known as mr clean or any number of brands, it is made from malamine.
   
  I have seen children use it and than put their hands in their mouths, 
  I try and warn anyone but everyone loves the poison.
   
  I cannot get anyone yet to throw it away.  My clients wonder why their 
  children are sick.
   
  This poison and many others are just a few feet away, under every 
  sink,in every utility room in America.
   
  Mary
 
  -- Original message from kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com:
  --
 
 
  
   From: Brasscheck TV
   Date: 10/29/2008 8:36:14 AM
   To: Linda
   Subject: Brasscheck TV: NEWS BULLETIN
  
  
   I don't often send bulletins, but this is
   potentially very serious.
  
   You have probably heard of the deliberate
   adulteration of infant formula with melamine
   in China.
  
   It killed and injured thousands of children
   there.
  
   What you don't know - because the FDA and others
   don't want you to know - is that as much as
   20 million TONS of Chinese manufactured milk powder
   and products containing milk powder were imported into
   the US from China this year.
  
   Now please read the next part very carefully:
  
   The US...is the ONLY country...including China...
   that has NOT pulled food products containing
   milk powder manufactured in China off its
   shelves.
  
   Please re-reread the previous paragraph carefully.
  
   The person blowing the whistle on this is
   an expert in toy manufacturing who stumbled
   on this while researching this season's
   Halloween candy offerings.
  
   He has found candy manufactured in China
   with milk powder widely being sold in
   US stores.
 

RE: CSTainted Food Alert!

[Dianne France]

I also thank Marshall for the information.  His other point that products going 
into candy can come from China but the end product being USA is scary.
I guess that is a good reason not to eat junk food or prepackaged products.  
Sure is inconvenient at times.  
 
Dianne Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:43:04 -0400 From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com To: 
silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTainted Food Alert! CC: 
mdud...@king-cart.com  Good info Marshall.. Whatever it is, it did make 
an awful lot of kids sick in China along with killing a bunch. Better to be 
safe than sorry, the more information you can read through the better, thanks,

RE: CSpositive silver ions and negatively charged bacteria

[Malcolm]

just to add a bit of clarity here, the stain which defines Gram positive
and negative were developed by a man named Gram, and the 'positive' and
'negative' do NOT refer to the electropotential of the bacteria, but to
the method's discoverer, Hans Christian Gram.

On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 11:40 -0500, Norton, Steve wrote:
 Relative to bacteria, from Wikipedia: 
 
 There are two main types of bacterial cell walls, Gram positive and
 Gram negative, which are differentiated by their Gram staining
 characteristics. 
 
 Gram positive:
 
 Teichoic acids give the Gram positive cell wall an overall negative
 charge due to the presence of phosphodiester bonds between teichoic
 acid monomers.
 
 Gram negative:
 
 In addition to the peptidoglycan layer, the Gram negative cell wall
 also contains an additional outer membrane composed by phospholipids
 and lipopolysaccharides which face into the external environment. As
 the lipopolysaccharides are highly-charged, the Gram negative cell
 wall has an overall negative charge.
 
 From what I have read, viruses have a slight negative charge at
 neutral PH.
 
 - Steve N
 
 
 
 
 __
 From: Bethany Methven [mailto:mrs_ak_h...@yahoo.com] 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:38 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSpositive silver ions and negatively charged bacteria
 
 
 
 
 Hi, I'm new to this list.  Here in Alaska, very few people actually
 know about CS.  I am trying to learn as much as I can so that I can
 educate those around me.  I have been studying about the positive
 charge from silver ions losing an electron during the electro
 colloidal process.  Anyway, my question is -  Does anyone know if all
 bacteria, fungus, viruses, etc are negatively charged?  Some web site
 was talking about how the positive charge from the silver ions
 attracts to the negative charge of the bacteria, and then basically
 short circuits it's biological clock, making it unable to reproduce.
 If this is true, then how effective are silver particles, if they are
 negatively charged, vs. the positive charge of the ions?  I have heard
 so much confusion regarding ions vs. particles.   Id like to hear
 some other opinions.  Thanks -  Beth
 


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Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

[Clayton Family]

Not in mine!  Until I know what something is made of, it does not come 
in my house


Thanks for telling us what it is made of, I had no idea it was made of 
melamine.


Kathryn

On Oct 29, 2008, at 10:34 AM, mborg...@att.net wrote:


Another alert
All of my clients have and use with bare hands that little white pad 
known as mr clean or any number of brands, it is made from malamine.  
I have seen children use it and than put their hands in their mouths, 
I try and warn anyone but everyone loves the poison.
 I cannot get anyone yet to throw it away.  My clients wonder why 
their children are sick. This poison and many others are just a few 
feet away, under every sink,in every utility room in America.

 
Mary
-- Original message from kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com: 
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Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

[Clayton Family]

Thank you very much Marshall, for the informed update.

Kathryn

On Oct 29, 2008, at 11:20 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote:

What they were adding is melamine MONOMER. This is the liquid which 
polymerizes when heated to form melamine plastic after crosslinking 
with formaldehyde.  The stuff is very dangerous from a health 
standpoint, just as other monomers are, such as styrene, methyl 
methacrylate, and polyester resin (Bondo and Clear Cast for example).  
Just breathing any of these monomers can make you sick, yet the 
plastics themselves are ALL FDA approved for use with foods.  Heck, 
most of us have counter tops made of melamine ( Formica and Micarta 
are examples), and most plastic dishes are made from it as well. When 
the monomer is ingested, the kidneys will remove it, and it is toxic. 
But also when combined with urea and in the environment of the urine, 
it tends to polymerized, forming plastic inside the kidneys and kidney 
and bladder stones.  Also it can produce cyanuric acid crystals which 
can lead to kidney failure.  The stones are not only very serious, but 
unlike most toxins that will eventually be flushed out, will likely 
remain there for the rest of the entity's life.



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Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

[indi]

Thanks Marshall, that's good information to have. Unfortunately for me,
a lot of my indoor environment (counters, shelves, and cupboards in my 
kitchen and bathroom) is covered with formica. It's old formica, made
in 1973. Do you think it still releases toxins? Maybe my
energy-inefficient habit of keeping windows open even when it's cold
outside and the heat is on has been wiser than I realized...

indi

On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:20:25 -0400
Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:

 Let me say that first of all, that the guy in the video is wrong
 about them using scrap melamine polymers in the China milk.  Melamine
 polymer is a very stable plastic which not only would pass through
 one's digestive system unchanged and unabsorbed, but also would not
 yield any increase in detected nitrogen when testing for protein
 which was the purpose of adding the melamine. In addition, it would
 form a kind of grit, which would be very easy to detect, it is
 insoluble, and all you have to do is mix the milk powder with water,
 and if it is there, it will be on the bottom and easily detected.
 
 What they were adding is melamine MONOMER. This is the liquid which 
 polymerizes when heated to form melamine plastic after crosslinking
 with formaldehyde.  The stuff is very dangerous from a health
 standpoint, just as other monomers are, such as styrene, methyl
 methacrylate, and polyester resin (Bondo and Clear Cast for
 example).  Just breathing any of these monomers can make you sick,
 yet the plastics themselves are ALL FDA approved for use with foods.
 Heck, most of us have counter tops made of melamine ( Formica and
 Micarta are examples), and most plastic dishes are made from it as
 well. When the monomer is ingested, the kidneys will remove it, and
 it is toxic. But also when combined with urea and in the environment
 of the urine, it tends to polymerized, forming plastic inside the
 kidneys and kidney and bladder stones.  Also it can produce cyanuric
 acid crystals which can lead to kidney failure. The stones are not
 only very serious, but unlike most toxins that will eventually be
 flushed out, will likely remain there for the rest of the entity's
 life.
 
 However, that being said, there CAN be some leaching of
 unpolymerized melamine monomer and formaldehyde used to crosslink in
 melamine plastics. There is an article on this at 
 http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/tandf/tfac/2006/0023/0009/art00010
  
 .  Thus I would highly recommend washing any melamine dishes in a 
 dishwasher, and using the heated drying cycle before using them.
 Using scrubbing pads made of melamine properly should not be a
 problem, but I would not  put it in my mouth since very small amounts
 of both formaldehyde and melamine monomer could leach out.
 
 Also see 
 http://www.sciencebase.com/science-blog/melamine-and-kidney-failure.html 
 for confirmation of what I am saying.
 Melamine monomer, as opposed to the plastic used to make kitchen 
 utensils and table coverings, itself also has irritant properties. It 
 has been added to various food products to illicitly and fraudulently 
 boost the measured protein content without the expense of actually 
 improving the food’s nutritional value.
 
 Marshall
 
 
 
 mborg...@att.net wrote:
  Another alert
  All of my clients have and use with bare hands that little white
  pad known as mr clean or any number of brands, it is made from
  malamine. 
  I have seen children use it and than put their hands in their
  mouths, I try and warn anyone but everyone loves the poison.
   
  I cannot get anyone yet to throw it away.  My clients wonder why
  their children are sick.
   
  This poison and many others are just a few feet away, under every 
  sink,in every utility room in America.
   
  Mary
 
  -- Original message from kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com:
  --
 
 
  
   From: Brasscheck TV
   Date: 10/29/2008 8:36:14 AM
   To: Linda
   Subject: Brasscheck TV: NEWS BULLETIN
  
  
   I don't often send bulletins, but this is
   potentially very serious.
  
   You have probably heard of the deliberate
   adulteration of infant formula with melamine
   in China.
  
   It killed and injured thousands of children
   there.
  
   What you don't know - because the FDA and others
   don't want you to know - is that as much as
   20 million TONS of Chinese manufactured milk powder
   and products containing milk powder were imported into
   the US from China this year.
  
   Now please read the next part very carefully:
  
   The US...is the ONLY country...including China...
   that has NOT pulled food products containing
   milk powder manufactured in China off its
   shelves.
  
   Please re-reread the previous paragraph carefully.
  
   The person blowing the whistle on this is
   an expert in toy manufacturing who stumbled
   on 

Re: CSRe: The Healing Universe Rife links

[Neville]

- Original Message - 
From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: CSRe: The Healing Universe Rife links

Mike wrote:
[refused to publish any paper by anyone on Rife's therapy]
-Well there you go, did that, more sources containing the same article than 
I can poke a stick at.


N. 



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RE: CSWhy do we say such things

[Terry]

Many people that wear hats, shirts, and boots with the word,  Alternative
written all over them, turn right around and quote mainstream lies.

If we have anything written all over us, it should be truth.  There is
truth and there are lies on both sides of the stream.

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:cwf...@fugitt.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 3:31 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSWhy do we say such things


Morning Neville,

  At 02:22 AM 10/29/2008, you wrote:
  I am sad to say I will never get a good handle on it.
  which is perhaps why I never seem to get the 'right' answers.

   Often I wonder why you say

Unless

  You are trying to conceal the fact from us, that
You are a genius.

   Never fear,  Some of us figure out such things anyway.

I doubt that you have any memory problem or brain damage or you 
would tell us.   CS would cure that anyway.

 I never make any excuses for why I am wrong, why I am a nut and 
why I am irrational.  Or why I am wrong.

 I am just a dumb old redneck that is not suppose to be on top of 
the stack.

 Often we are wrong because of no fault of our own.
Someone told us wrong, or lied to us.

 If one reads all the mainstream articles and documents, he will 
be wrong more than he is right.

 I thought everyone knew that.

 Many people that wear hats, shirts, and boots with the word,
Alternative written all over them, turn right around and
quote mainstream lies.   Heaven forbid, where did the wisdom go ?

I know, some will think all that is a rigamaroe.  Many that think 
that, are a rigamaroe themselves or lack understanding.

You did not have to quote all of Mikes message.  I already had two copies,
now I have three.

Wayne

He who is good for making excuses, is seldom good for anything else.





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RE: CSWhy do we say such things

[Wayne Fugitt]

Evening Terry,

 At 08:58 PM 10/29/2008, you wrote:


If we have anything written all over us, it should be truth.  There is
truth and there are lies on both sides of the stream.

Why do you think I named my list, ..

News, Truth, and  Lies  ?

One does not have to state which they are.

Once I posted an article, a Chemist and ND relative wrote a long 
message as a result.


Of course I believed as she did.

I did not say I believe the article and I did not say it was Truth.

Each reader can decide which it is,  . or remain 
confused and fall into

the ditch.

Wayne

Conclusion: the place where you got tired of thinking





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