Re: CSCS metered comparisons.
Color has virtually nothing to do with PPM. Ode At 08:11 AM 11/12/2008 +1030, you wrote: Hanna TDS 1 meter Com 100 meter *Clear 009ppmKCl 14.1ppm NaCl 14.4ppm Colour Evident 008ppm KCl 6.7ppm NaCl 13.6ppm *Yellow 008ppm KCl 6.8ppm NaCl 6.3ppm Pink-ish 012ppm KCl 19.4ppm NaCl 9.0ppm Some meter reading comparisons I made with various CS batches I had noted and was a little curious that clear and yellow, (not golden though), seem similar with the two comm 100 meter readings. Not sure what 'colour evident' was, unable to determine with certainty using naked eye, green-ish/blue-ish maybe? The 'pink-ish' is how it appeared to my eyes. Pure Water was used and around a tablespoon of previous 8ppm brew as seed. I don't recall getting 'colours' with DW, can't remember, going back to DW when I have used my stock up of PW. Did this testing just as an exercise, and all had stabilized over time. Perhaps someone could satisfy my curiousity on the two similar comm meter readings, (as indicated). N. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.2/1784 - Release Date: 11/12/2008 7:01 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS metered comparisons.
- Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 8:32 PM Subject: Re: CSCS metered comparisons. [Color has virtually nothing to do with PPM. Ode] KCl 14.1ppm NaCl 14.4ppm KCl 6.8ppm NaCl 6.3ppm -I was more interested in the similarities with these two Ode. Thought it strange that as the other readings from the Comm meter were all over the place, for whatever reason, these two struck me as odd. I know we are looking at 3 different animals here, Hanna meter, Comm KCl and Comm NaCl readings, but isn't it odd that these two are so close? My rather wild idea is that the others could have had ions and particle ratios or whatever all over the shop, but these figures must be telling me something and I am wondering if there is some 'ideal', 'unnatural', or just luck or coincidence involved here. Doesn't it appear odd that these two are so close? Any suggestions or explanations you may come up with, I can put together with the colours that I included. If there *is* some 'ideal' result here then I know that clear, and the colour I made a note of could encourage me to use both meters in future to attempt to get this result repeatable. I am aware that in all probability I may never see this again, however, I am curious. Probably not explaining myself very well. Perhaps you can offer an explanation as to why these two readings are so close? Neville. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSAnyone Know of a natural Plaque buster???
A family friend who is just 50 has had several heart attacks and he mass produces plaque does anyone have any info on natural things he can do to break up this plaque??? Teri -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAnyone Know of a natural Plaque buster???
Teri Kavakos wrote: A family friend who is just 50 has had several heart attacks and he mass produces plaque does anyone have any info on natural things he can do to break up this plaque??? Teri Breaking up the plaque causes heart attacks. It's there for a reason. Is he on statins? Cyndi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSmetered comparisons., Source of Solutions
At 05:44 AM 11/14/2008, you wrote: KCl 14.1ppm NaCl 14.4ppm KCl 6.8ppm NaCl 6.3ppm Hanna meter, Comm KCl and Comm NaCl readings, You could tell us the cost of these meters. That might offer some ideas. Plus, the items you are listing are very easy to calculate ppm , then there is no need for any guessing or wondering if the meters are right. Do you mix or buy the solution you are using ? Wayne Scientist measure EC and Calculate ppm = -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLinks, Mailers, and External Hard Drives for backing up
Who is DH? Who is Lacie?Is this family or business associate? - Original Message - From: Rowena new...@aapt.net.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 12:29 AM Subject: Re: CSLinks, Mailers, and External Hard Drives for backing up Apparently it is actually an external hard drive, so now I am a little wiser than I was before. DH brings it in, connects it up, downloads everything (can be an overnight job!) then disconnects and takes it away again until next time. It's stored away from the computer, though I don't think it is actually in any emergency grab and go bag for if there is a fire or flood! Has been very useful in doing all sorts of jobs for people's computers away from home, too. LaCie - External Hard Drives, Network Hard Drives, RAID, Monitors ... LaCie offers external hard drives, DVD Blu-ray drives as well as lcd monitors and calibrator systems for desktop publishing professionals. www.lacie.com/ Rowena Hi Rowena: I use Outlook as well. There maybe some way to disable that compacting thing. I get it at times but I ignore it. What kind of a device is it that you use to back up your whole computer every week? I think that it a wonderful idea and I would like to begin doing that also. I have a 2GB SanDisk but find transferring stuff laborious. thanks. Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLinks, Mailers, and External Hard Drives for backing up
Did you not click on the link I provided? It is a company. DH is internet parlance for Dear Husband - DS is Dear Son, DD is Dear Daughter, etc. Lacie should be LaCie - this is the manufacturer of the Hard Drive. Who is DH? Who is Lacie?Is this family or business associate? - Original Message - From: Rowena new...@aapt.net.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 12:29 AM Subject: Re: CSLinks, Mailers, and External Hard Drives for backing up Apparently it is actually an external hard drive, so now I am a little wiser than I was before. DH brings it in, connects it up, downloads everything (can be an overnight job!) then disconnects and takes it away again until next time. It's stored away from the computer, though I don't think it is actually in any emergency grab and go bag for if there is a fire or flood! Has been very useful in doing all sorts of jobs for people's computers away from home, too. LaCie - External Hard Drives, Network Hard Drives, RAID, Monitors ... LaCie offers external hard drives, DVD Blu-ray drives as well as lcd monitors and calibrator systems for desktop publishing professionals. www.lacie.com/ Rowena Hi Rowena: I use Outlook as well. There maybe some way to disable that compacting thing. I get it at times but I ignore it. What kind of a device is it that you use to back up your whole computer every week? I think that it a wonderful idea and I would like to begin doing that also. I have a 2GB SanDisk but find transferring stuff laborious. thanks. Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSAnyone Know of a natural Plaque buster???
look up lynus pauling's recipe, vitamin c, cystein, and prolein. if i recall correctly, it disolves the plaque jim On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Teri Kavakos wrote: A family friend who is just 50 has had several heart attacks and he mass produces plaque does anyone have any info on natural things he can do to break up this plaque??? Teri -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org http://silverlist.org http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAnyone Know of a natural Plaque buster???
I have a condition that may be caused by plaque build-up and so I have investigated plaque removal. There are several intravenious (IV) methods - EDTA and H2O2 IV. But there are 2 non IV that are effective - oral EDTA and Serrapeptase. Oral EDTA is slower than IV since only 5 to 20 percent of EDTA taken orally actually enters the bloodstream. I have both but am only using the Serrapeptase right now. Serrapeptase works slowly. It takes 12 to 18 months to clean the plaque from the arterial walls. But slow is what you want - you don't want piecies of plaque breaking away and causing blockages. Interestingly, the Serrapeptase is also disolving a large cyst on my scalp. I had read that Serrapeptase disolves cysts but I really didn't expect that any supplement could actually affect one as large as the one I have. It is not yet gone but it is fairly small now. When using Serrapeptase blood tests will show increase levels of cholesterol. This is normal - the additional cholesterol is the plaque dissolved by the Serrapeptase. The additional cholesterol is then removed by the liver. One other benefit of Serrapeptase is its ability to dissolve dead tissue and scarring material. My sister has a lung condition that causes scaring in the lung. She uses Serrapeptase to remove the scarring. Just after starting Serrapeptase my sister noticed nodules in her feces. Concerned, she went to a specialist and he found precancerous nodules, some as large as an inch, in her colon and removed them. She feels that the Serrapeptase has already saved her life because she is too young for scheduled colonoscopies and it would have been discovered too late. If your friend uses EDTA, use the calcium form of EDTA. Good luck, Steve - Original Message - From: Teri Kavakos t...@welshspringers.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri Nov 14 06:23:20 2008 Subject: CSAnyone Know of a natural Plaque buster??? A family friend who is just 50 has had several heart attacks and he mass produces plaque does anyone have any info on natural things he can do to break up this plaque??? Teri -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLinks, Mailers, and External Hard Drives for backing up
OK. thanks Rowena. - Original Message - From: Rowena new...@aapt.net.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 10:30 AM Subject: Re: CSLinks, Mailers, and External Hard Drives for backing up Did you not click on the link I provided? It is a company. DH is internet parlance for Dear Husband - DS is Dear Son, DD is Dear Daughter, etc. Lacie should be LaCie - this is the manufacturer of the Hard Drive. Who is DH? Who is Lacie?Is this family or business associate? - Original Message - From: Rowena new...@aapt.net.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 12:29 AM Subject: Re: CSLinks, Mailers, and External Hard Drives for backing up Apparently it is actually an external hard drive, so now I am a little wiser than I was before. DH brings it in, connects it up, downloads everything (can be an overnight job!) then disconnects and takes it away again until next time. It's stored away from the computer, though I don't think it is actually in any emergency grab and go bag for if there is a fire or flood! Has been very useful in doing all sorts of jobs for people's computers away from home, too. LaCie - External Hard Drives, Network Hard Drives, RAID, Monitors ... LaCie offers external hard drives, DVD Blu-ray drives as well as lcd monitors and calibrator systems for desktop publishing professionals. www.lacie.com/ Rowena -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSerrapeptase
Hi Steve, I'm wondering what brand Serrapeptase you use. The one I take is Jarrow. S-Max ---Original Message--- From: Norton, Steve Date: 11/14/2008 8:48:06 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAnyone Know of a natural Plaque buster??? I have a condition that may be caused by plaque build-up and so I have investigated plaque removal. There are several intravenious (IV) methods - EDTA and H2O2 IV. But there are 2 non IV that are effective - oral EDTA and Serrapeptase. Oral EDTA is slower than IV since only 5 to 20 percent of EDTA taken orally actually enters the bloodstream. I have both but am only using the Serrapeptase right now. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAnyone Know of a natural Plaque buster???
Steve, can you get oral EDTA and Serrapeptase without interference from a doctor? I wonder if the Serrapeptase would work on old skin scars? I am a biting bug magnet, and since I will not give up spending my summers out in the woods, I put up with all kinds of bites all summer long. Add that to my tomboy-days scars, and long sleeves and pants are becoming a necessity to cover up all the damage - particularly evident when I've got a suntan Linda The Truly Educated Never Graduate From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 10:47:33 AM Subject: Re: CSAnyone Know of a natural Plaque buster??? I have a condition that may be caused by plaque build-up and so I have investigated plaque removal. There are several intravenious (IV) methods - EDTA and H2O2 IV. But there are 2 non IV that are effective - oral EDTA and Serrapeptase. Oral EDTA is slower than IV since only 5 to 20 percent of EDTA taken orally actually enters the bloodstream. I have both but am only using the Serrapeptase right now. Serrapeptase works slowly. It takes 12 to 18 months to clean the plaque from the arterial walls. But slow is what you want - you don't want piecies of plaque breaking away and causing blockages. Interestingly, the Serrapeptase is also disolving a large cyst on my scalp. I had read that Serrapeptase disolves cysts but I really didn't expect that any supplement could actually affect one as large as the one I have. It is not yet gone but it is fairly small now. When using Serrapeptase blood tests will show increase levels of cholesterol. This is normal - the additional cholesterol is the plaque dissolved by the Serrapeptase. The additional cholesterol is then removed by the liver. One other benefit of Serrapeptase is its ability to dissolve dead tissue and scarring material. My sister has a lung condition that causes scaring in the lung. She uses Serrapeptase to remove the scarring. Just after starting Serrapeptase my sister noticed nodules in her feces. Concerned, she went to a specialist and he found precancerous nodules, some as large as an inch, in her colon and removed them. She feels that the Serrapeptase has already saved her life because she is too young for scheduled colonoscopies and it would have been discovered too late. If your friend uses EDTA, use the calcium form of EDTA. Good luck, Steve - Original Message - From: Teri Kavakos t...@welshspringers.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri Nov 14 06:23:20 2008 Subject: CSAnyone Know of a natural Plaque buster??? A family friend who is just 50 has had several heart attacks and he mass produces plaque does anyone have any info on natural things he can do to break up this plaque??? Teri -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSerrapeptase
I have used 3 brands. Serrazimes powder from Beyond a Century, SerraEzyme from GoodHealthNaturallyNutrition and Doctors Best. As far as I can tell they all work the same. - Steve - Original Message - From: S-Max s...@emotap.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri Nov 14 10:55:47 2008 Subject: CSSerrapeptase Hi Steve, I'm wondering what brand Serrapeptase you use. The one I take is Jarrow. S-Max ---Original Message--- From: Norton, Steve Date: 11/14/2008 8:48:06 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAnyone Know of a natural Plaque buster??? I have a condition that may be caused by plaque build-up and so I have investigated plaque removal. There are several intravenious (IV) methods - EDTA and H2O2 IV. But there are 2 non IV that are effective - oral EDTA and Serrapeptase. Oral EDTA is slower than IV since only 5 to 20 percent of EDTA taken orally actually enters the bloodstream. I have both but am only using the Serrapeptase right now. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAnyone Know of a natural Plaque buster???
Linda, Both are available without a prescription. I found the best price for calcium EDTA on eBay and the best price for Serrapeptase at iherb.com They claim that Serrapeptase will remove or reduce skin scarring - Steve - Original Message - From: Linda Ellis lellis4...@sbcglobal.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri Nov 14 11:09:06 2008 Subject: Re: CSAnyone Know of a natural Plaque buster??? Steve, can you get oral EDTA and Serrapeptase without interference from a doctor? I wonder if the Serrapeptase would work on old skin scars? I am a biting bug magnet, and since I will not give up spending my summers out in the woods, I put up with all kinds of bites all summer long. Add that to my tomboy-days scars, and long sleeves and pants are becoming a necessity to cover up all the damage - particularly evident when I've got a suntan Linda The Truly Educated Never Graduate From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 10:47:33 AM Subject: Re: CSAnyone Know of a natural Plaque buster??? I have a condition that may be caused by plaque build-up and so I have investigated plaque removal. There are several intravenious (IV) methods - EDTA and H2O2 IV. But there are 2 non IV that are effective - oral EDTA and Serrapeptase. Oral EDTA is slower than IV since only 5 to 20 percent of EDTA taken orally actually enters the bloodstream. I have both but am only using the Serrapeptase right now. Serrapeptase works slowly. It takes 12 to 18 months to clean the plaque from the arterial walls. But slow is what you want - you don't want piecies of plaque breaking away and causing blockages. Interestingly, the Serrapeptase is also disolving a large cyst on my scalp. I had read that Serrapeptase disolves cysts but I really didn't expect that any supplement could actually affect one as large as the one I have. It is not yet gone but it is fairly small now. When using Serrapeptase blood tests will show increase levels of cholesterol. This is normal - the additional cholesterol is the plaque dissolved by the Serrapeptase. The additional cholesterol is then removed by the liver. One other benefit of Serrapeptase is its ability to dissolve dead tissue and scarring material. My sister has a lung condition that causes scaring in the lung. She uses Serrapeptase to remove the scarring. Just after starting Serrapeptase my sister noticed nodules in her feces. Concerned, she went to a specialist and he found precancerous nodules, some as large as an inch, in her colon and removed them. She feels that the Serrapeptase has already saved her life because she is too young for scheduled colonoscopies and it would have been discovered too late. If your friend uses EDTA, use the calcium form of EDTA. Good luck, Steve - Original Message - From: Teri Kavakos t...@welshspringers.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri Nov 14 06:23:20 2008 Subject: CSAnyone Know of a natural Plaque buster??? A family friend who is just 50 has had several heart attacks and he mass produces plaque does anyone have any info on natural things he can do to break up this plaque??? Teri -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org http://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFw: CS:Plaque buster
I'm re-posting this as I feel it fits the problem of which you speak. - Original Message - From: Harold MacDonald har...@telus.net To: Silver Post silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 3:48 PM Subject: CS:By-pass surgery This weak spot in the artery is likely a symptom of underlying scurvy; a severe lack of Vitamin C.This lack causes the blood vessels to become very thin ,weak and porous.The constant pulsing of the heart is much greater here and stresses the wall of the blood vessel.This creates minute cracks and the blood seeps out. The bodys' defenses have to stop this leakage and uses Cholesterol [plaque]as the sealant.Over time this is repeated as the cholesterol gets stiff and brittle thereby cracking also,so more plaster is used until the vessel is plugged. The blood vessels are like the chain which is only as strong as its' weakest link, and the weakest link is near the heart in the majority of cases. The lack of Vit. C in the old days of sailing vessels was the cause of scurvy amongst sailors.This was also known as the bleeding death as the blood leaked out into the outer parts of the body.It was quite common for more than half of the crew to perish on long journeys. Isn't it significant that mainly the vessels near the heart are the ones to get clogged? Picture an old garden hose under pressure and stepping on it up to and over 72 times a minute,It would not last long without cracking. My advice is to take mega doses of Vit. C as you may be assured this is just the tip of the ice-berg. In this case I would advise to go slowly at first,using small doses of Vit.C.,building up to mega doses. Using Ascorbic acid ,2 parts to 1 part of bicarbonate of soda . 1/2 tspoon C to 1/4 tspn of bicarb. in 6 oz of water is what I take once per day. IMHO! Harold -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAnyone Know of a natural Plaque buster???
Re: CSAnyone Know of a natural Plaque buster???Hello Steve and anyone else considering Serrapeptase use, Be careful with Serrapeptase. I had high blood pressure several years ago and decided to get chelation with the thought it would remove some of the plaque in my pipes and help lower it. After 18 IV EDTA sessions I didn't notice any change so decided to try Serrapeptase to clan my pipes. Thinking if some is good, more is better I started to take 30 pills a day at 10,000 units per pill. Two weeks later (August 2005) I had a stroke and lost my right temporal lobe. I believe the Serrapeptase dislodged a chunk of plaque and that caused the stroke. Apparently it really works well but in my case too well. I use Smart Nutrition brand from www.smartnutrition.info and now take two pills twice a day. Still have to take BP meds too but I think the enzyme is working. I hope this helps you. Best regards, Trem Williams - Original Message - From: Norton, Steve To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 8:47 AM Subject: Re: CSAnyone Know of a natural Plaque buster??? I have a condition that may be caused by plaque build-up and so I have investigated plaque removal. There are several intravenious (IV) methods - EDTA and H2O2 IV. But there are 2 non IV that are effective - oral EDTA and Serrapeptase. Oral EDTA is slower than IV since only 5 to 20 percent of EDTA taken orally actually enters the bloodstream. I have both but am only using the Serrapeptase right now. Serrapeptase works slowly. It takes 12 to 18 months to clean the plaque from the arterial walls. But slow is what you want - you don't want piecies of plaque breaking away and causing blockages. Interestingly, the Serrapeptase is also disolving a large cyst on my scalp. I had read that Serrapeptase disolves cysts but I really didn't expect that any supplement could actually affect one as large as the one I have. It is not yet gone but it is fairly small now. When using Serrapeptase blood tests will show increase levels of cholesterol. This is normal - the additional cholesterol is the plaque dissolved by the Serrapeptase. The additional cholesterol is then removed by the liver. One other benefit of Serrapeptase is its ability to dissolve dead tissue and scarring material. My sister has a lung condition that causes scaring in the lung. She uses Serrapeptase to remove the scarring. Just after starting Serrapeptase my sister noticed nodules in her feces. Concerned, she went to a specialist and he found precancerous nodules, some as large as an inch, in her colon and removed them. She feels that the Serrapeptase has already saved her life because she is too young for scheduled colonoscopies and it would have been discovered too late. If your friend uses EDTA, use the calcium form of EDTA. Good luck, Steve - Original Message - From: Teri Kavakos t...@welshspringers.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri Nov 14 06:23:20 2008 Subject: CSAnyone Know of a natural Plaque buster??? A family friend who is just 50 has had several heart attacks and he mass produces plaque does anyone have any info on natural things he can do to break up this plaque??? Teri -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAnyone Know of a natural Plaque buster???
Thanks, Steve. I'm willing to experiment and see what happens. Maybe I'll photograph and measure a couple of the more prominent scars, and try to keep tabs on them. Linda The Truly Educated Never Graduate From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 11:26:49 AM Subject: Re: CSAnyone Know of a natural Plaque buster??? Linda, Both are available without a prescription. I found the best price for calcium EDTA on eBay and the best price for Serrapeptase at iherb.com They claim that Serrapeptase will remove or reduce skin scarring - Steve - Original Message - From: Linda Ellis lellis4...@sbcglobal.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri Nov 14 11:09:06 2008 Subject: Re: CSAnyone Know of a natural Plaque buster??? Steve, can you get oral EDTA and Serrapeptase without interference from a doctor? I wonder if the Serrapeptase would work on old skin scars? I am a biting bug magnet, and since I will not give up spending my summers out in the woods, I put up with all kinds of bites all summer long. Add that to my tomboy-days scars, and long sleeves and pants are becoming a necessity to cover up all the damage - particularly evident when I've got a suntan Linda The Truly Educated Never Graduate From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 10:47:33 AM Subject: Re: CSAnyone Know of a natural Plaque buster??? I have a condition that may be caused by plaque build-up and so I have investigated plaque removal. There are several intravenious (IV) methods - EDTA and H2O2 IV. But there are 2 non IV that are effective - oral EDTA and Serrapeptase. Oral EDTA is slower than IV since only 5 to 20 percent of EDTA taken orally actually enters the bloodstream. I have both but am only using the Serrapeptase right now. Serrapeptase works slowly. It takes 12 to 18 months to clean the plaque from the arterial walls. But slow is what you want - you don't want piecies of plaque breaking away and causing blockages. Interestingly, the Serrapeptase is also disolving a large cyst on my scalp. I had read that Serrapeptase disolves cysts but I really didn't expect that any supplement could actually affect one as large as the one I have. It is not yet gone but it is fairly small now. When using Serrapeptase blood tests will show increase levels of cholesterol. This is normal - the additional cholesterol is the plaque dissolved by the Serrapeptase. The additional cholesterol is then removed by the liver. One other benefit of Serrapeptase is its ability to dissolve dead tissue and scarring material. My sister has a lung condition that causes scaring in the lung. She uses Serrapeptase to remove the scarring. Just after starting Serrapeptase my sister noticed nodules in her feces. Concerned, she went to a specialist and he found precancerous nodules, some as large as an inch, in her colon and removed them. She feels that the Serrapeptase has already saved her life because she is too young for scheduled colonoscopies and it would have been discovered too late. If your friend uses EDTA, use the calcium form of EDTA. Good luck, Steve - Original Message - From: Teri Kavakos t...@welshspringers.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri Nov 14 06:23:20 2008 Subject: CSAnyone Know of a natural Plaque buster??? A family friend who is just 50 has had several heart attacks and he mass produces plaque does anyone have any info on natural things he can do to break up this plaque??? Teri -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org http://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAnyone Know of a natural Plaque buster???
Trem, Sorry to hear of your bad experience and thanks for the warning. I should have also noted that slower is better. I take only one capsule of 40,000 units daily, except when I forget. I knew of others using much higher dosages but I see benefits at the lower level and decided to be patient. I have been taking this dosage for about 7 months. I did just recently check my blood pressure to see if there was any effect due to possible reduction of plaque in the arteries. I saw a reduction in my diastolic pressure from 80 to 74 and a significant reductio in heartrate but I don't remember the actual measurement. - Steve - Original Message - From: trem t...@silvergen.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri Nov 14 12:09:19 2008 Subject: Re: CSAnyone Know of a natural Plaque buster??? Hello Steve and anyone else considering Serrapeptase use, Be careful with Serrapeptase. I had high blood pressure several years ago and decided to get chelation with the thought it would remove some of the plaque in my pipes and help lower it. After 18 IV EDTA sessions I didn't notice any change so decided to try Serrapeptase to clan my pipes. Thinking if some is good, more is better I started to take 30 pills a day at 10,000 units per pill. Two weeks later (August 2005) I had a stroke and lost my right temporal lobe. I believe the Serrapeptase dislodged a chunk of plaque and that caused the stroke. Apparently it really works well but in my case too well. I use Smart Nutrition brand from www.smartnutrition.info and now take two pills twice a day. Still have to take BP meds too but I think the enzyme is working. I hope this helps you. Best regards, Trem Williams - Original Message - From: Norton, Steve mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 8:47 AM Subject: Re: CSAnyone Know of a natural Plaque buster??? I have a condition that may be caused by plaque build-up and so I have investigated plaque removal. There are several intravenious (IV) methods - EDTA and H2O2 IV. But there are 2 non IV that are effective - oral EDTA and Serrapeptase. Oral EDTA is slower than IV since only 5 to 20 percent of EDTA taken orally actually enters the bloodstream. I have both but am only using the Serrapeptase right now. Serrapeptase works slowly. It takes 12 to 18 months to clean the plaque from the arterial walls. But slow is what you want - you don't want piecies of plaque breaking away and causing blockages. Interestingly, the Serrapeptase is also disolving a large cyst on my scalp. I had read that Serrapeptase disolves cysts but I really didn't expect that any supplement could actually affect one as large as the one I have. It is not yet gone but it is fairly small now. When using Serrapeptase blood tests will show increase levels of cholesterol. This is normal - the additional cholesterol is the plaque dissolved by the Serrapeptase. The additional cholesterol is then removed by the liver. One other benefit of Serrapeptase is its ability to dissolve dead tissue and scarring material. My sister has a lung condition that causes scaring in the lung. She uses Serrapeptase to remove the scarring. Just after starting Serrapeptase my sister noticed nodules in her feces. Concerned, she went to a specialist and he found precancerous nodules, some as large as an inch, in her colon and removed them. She feels that the Serrapeptase has already saved her life because she is too young for scheduled colonoscopies and it would have been discovered too late. If your friend uses EDTA, use the calcium form of EDTA. Good luck, Steve - Original Message - From: Teri Kavakos t...@welshspringers.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri Nov 14 06:23:20 2008 Subject: CSAnyone Know of a natural Plaque buster??? A family friend who is just 50 has had several heart attacks and he mass produces plaque does anyone have any info on natural things he can do to break up this plaque??? Teri -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2008 #647
Does any one have any ideas for helping to clear up an impentigo take- over? I have been using CS large doses internally and externally on the impentigo spots, but it seems to be taking excessively long to clear up, and keeps spreading during the mean time. Does anyone have any ideas of any other natural treatments for impentigo that I could use simultaneously with CS? - Beth Methven
RE: CSAnyone Know of a natural Plaque buster???
My husband and I had bought a supplement from Dr. Williams web site (I think) that was to remove plaque. We took it for about a month and decided not to continue it and returned it for refund. It was shortly after that my husband ended up with by pass surgery. I don't know if this caused the blockage or not but it might well have been what happened. I thought at first his problem was a deformity but the doctors have since told me otherwise. Dianne Subject: Re: CSAnyone Know of a natural Plaque buster???Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 10:47:33 -0600From: stephen.nor...@ngc.comto: silver-list@eskimo.com I have a condition that may be caused by plaque build-up and so I have investigated plaque removal. There are several intravenious (IV) methods - EDTA and H2O2 IV. But there are 2 non IV that are effective - oral EDTA and Serrapeptase. Oral EDTA is slower than IV since only 5 to 20 percent of EDTA taken orally actually enters the bloodstream. I have both but am only using the Serrapeptase right now. Serrapeptase works slowly. It takes 12 to 18 months to clean the plaque from the arterial walls. But slow is what you want - you don't want piecies of plaque breaking away and causing blockages. Interestingly, the Serrapeptase is also disolving a large cyst on my scalp. I had read that Serrapeptase disolves cysts but I really didn't expect that any supplement could actually affect one as large as the one I have. It is not yet gone but it is fairly small now.When using Serrapeptase blood tests will show increase levels of cholesterol. This is normal - the additional cholesterol is the plaque dissolved by the Serrapeptase. The additional cholesterol is then removed by the liver.One other benefit of Serrapeptase is its ability to dissolve dead tissue and scarring material. My sister has a lung condition that causes scaring in the lung. She uses Serrapeptase to remove the scarring. Just after starting Serrapeptase my sister noticed nodules in her feces. Concerned, she went to a specialist and he found precancerous nodules, some as large as an inch, in her colon and removed them. She feels that the Serrapeptase has already saved her life because she is too young for scheduled colonoscopies and it would have been discovered too late.If your friend uses EDTA, use the calcium form of EDTA.Good luck, Steve- Original Message -From: Teri Kavakos t...@welshspringers.comTo: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.comSent: Fri Nov 14 06:23:20 2008Subject: CSAnyone Know of a natural Plaque buster???A family friend who is just 50 has had several heart attacks and he massproduces plaque does anyone have any info on natural things he can do tobreak up this plaque???Teri--The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orgTo post, address your message to: silver-l...@eskimo.comaddress Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.comthe Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down...List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLinks, Mailers, and Outlook Users
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 02:24:33PM +0900, Rowena wrote: Thanks for the link. Anytime. In our earliest days on the (dial-up) internet we have used Eudora and Pegasus, and I missed them when we then shifted to Outlook. Eudora was my first email client at home, back in the '90s (I'd used Pine on DOS at work before that). I used it on the old Mac OS and on Windows 98 as well. I never did use it on XP, I gave up on Windows a few months after I got XP. Of course, they've improved on XP a lot since 2002. :) I do believe that Eudora on XP is what Wayne and Ode are using, and they seem satisfied with it. I think it is time to revisit, certainly, and I think DH will investigate this for me. Mutt was a mystery to me, but now I have googled it, here is a link for anyone else who was mystified as to what it might be! - plus some comments and another link Thanks, good job on those mutt links. I didn't think to provide them, as I assumed most people don't care much for command line interfaces. But maybe someone here besides me does. Cheers, indi -- WARNING: This message may contain sarcasm, dark humor, disagreement, and honesty. In case of headache, elevated blood pressure, violent thoughts and/or rage, please discontinue use. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBrown Recluse spider bites ( NO BAD LINKS )
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 04:10:23PM -0600, Dan Nave wrote: No. He said, Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar... Dan ;-)) I believe that was his response to someone employing his own theories to point out that Freud's cigar was a phallic symbol. I guess he was uncomfortable with taking his own medcine. :) Cheers, indi -Original Message- From: Faith Gagne [mailto:jitte...@gis.net] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:05 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBrown Recluse spider bites ( NO BAD LINKS ) Did Freud really make such an odd remark? - Original Message - From: Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:33 AM Subject: RE: CSBrown Recluse spider bites ( NO BAD LINKS ) Also, as Freud might have said, sometimes a remark is just a remark. People with feelings of inadequacy might interpret them as denigrating or belittling... Dan -Original Message- From: Faith Gagne [mailto:jitte...@gis.net] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:23 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBrown Recluse spider bites ( NO BAD LINKS ) Chuck: denigrating or belittling remarks stem from a feeling of inadequacy no matter the content of the remarks. Ignore them. - Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:18 AM Subject: Re: CSBrown Recluse spider bites ( NO BAD LINKS ) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- WARNING: This message may contain sarcasm, dark humor, disagreement, and honesty. In case of headache, elevated blood pressure, violent thoughts and/or rage, please discontinue use.
CSCS: Further to plaque buster
I was called away before I could finish. I fully believe that one of the most important things that should be tested for and rectified if necessary is pH,potential Hydrogen. Recent reported results of population testing showed that over 60% of people were in an acidic state,to the detriment of their health. I have read more than one report where researchers have shown that many diseases /Cancer cases are in an acidic state.Which also is anaerobic.no Oxygen present. Test paper can be bought at most H.food stores.Do not get pH paper used by diabetics as it is too coarse in increments. The test I use each AM on arising is this; [the healing range], Saliva reading times 2, plus Urine reading ,divided by 3 = ? ? should be from 6.2 - 6.6 The ideal range is 6.4. Do not use metal to take samples in as it can at times skew the readings.Use glass for urine and hard plastic spoon for saliva. Best. Harold -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmetered comparisons., Source of Solutions
- Original Message - From: Wayne Fugitt cwf...@fugitt.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 12:29 AM Subject: CSmetered comparisons., Source of Solutions Hi there Wayne, [You could tell us the cost of these meters. That might offer some ideas.] -The salesman did say that the cheaper the meter the more inaccurate the readings would be.g [Plus, the items you are listing are very easy to calculate ppm , then there is no need for any guessing or wondering if the meters are right.] -Not interested in the ppm in this case, just want to know why these two readings are so close. [Do you mix or buy the solution you are using ?] -I managed to hack into colonel sanders 16 secret ingredients and add a couple of frogs legs and the toenails from the back legs of a lizard as a stabiliser. g Forget the ppm, just tell me why these two readings are so close. N. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmetered comparisons., Source of Solutions
Evening Neville, At 03:31 PM 11/14/2008, you wrote: Forget the ppm, just tell me why these two readings are so close. Did it ever occur to you, .. They might be right. That is why you calculate, to check the meters. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAnyone Know of a natural Plaque buster???
Trem and all who have answered my question Thank you very much. Trem I'm so sorry to hear of your stroke and I hope that you will continue to be healthy as you can. Teri -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmetered comparisons., Source of Solutions
- Original Message - From: Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 8:28 AM Subject: Re: CSmetered comparisons., Source of Solutions Evening Neville, At 03:31 PM 11/14/2008, you wrote: Forget the ppm, just tell me why these two readings are so close. Did it ever occur to you, .. They might be right.That is why you calculate, to check the meters. Wayne 1) 009ppma) KCl 14.1ppm b) NaCl14.4ppm 2) 008ppma) KCl6.7ppm b) NaCl13.6ppm * 3) 008ppma) KCl6.8ppm b) NaCl 6.3ppm * 4) 012ppma) KCl 19.4ppm b) NaCl 9.0ppm Perhaps I'm not explaining properly, I'm not questioning the meters, per sae, just the readings, look at 2b and notice NaCl is 13.6, now look at 3b and you will see a huge drop to 6.3 and yet they both were oo8ppm. See what I am saying? I'm aware that water temperature can alter readings, but all these readings were done at the same time so water temperature would not have changed that much in 5 minutes, besides, I rechecked these several times and got no variation, readings remained the same. Now look at the other readings, #1) @ 009ppm resulted in very similar readings ie; 14.1 and 14.4 respectively. #3) @ 008ppm resulted in a similar close reading ie; 6.8 and 6.3 respectively. Why are all the other readings like a pigs breakfast when these two are very similar? Is this just coincidence or fluke? OK, now tell me the conversion recipe from ec to ppm. I've got a couple here somewhere but will need to search after posting this to you. I've got the equivelent of 2 giant redwoods in paper here, unfortunately my filing skills are only exceeded by my electronics skills. g N. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Fw: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2008 #647
Beth, Sorry for sending directly to you. I have had this happen several times because the Blackberry reply works different from my desktop. You might consider using Monolaurin orally and the clay topically. - Steve - Original Message - From: Norton, Steve To: 'mrs_ak_h...@yahoo.com' mrs_ak_h...@yahoo.com Sent: Fri Nov 14 16:46:01 2008 Subject: Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2008 #647 Beth, I use Monolaurin for many infections. It has been shown to be very effective against the staph and strep bacteria's that cause impetigo. Do a google on impetigo monolaurin. The best price I found on Monolaurin is at Wellness Resources. Another option would be French Green Clay. Google french green clay penicillin. I would provide the links except that I am on a Blackberry. - Steve N - Original Message - From: Bethany Methven mrs_ak_h...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri Nov 14 12:46:12 2008 Subject: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2008 #647 Does any one have any ideas for helping to clear up an impentigo take- over? I have been using CS large doses internally and externally on the impentigo spots, but it seems to be taking excessively long to clear up, and keeps spreading during the mean time. Does anyone have any ideas of any other natural treatments for impentigo that I could use simultaneously with CS? - Beth Methven
Re: CSmetered comparisons., Source of Solutions
- Original Message - From: Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 8:28 AM Subject: Re: CSmetered comparisons., Source of Solutions Wayne, here's one I found...ec to ppm multiply by 1.5 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSmetered comparisons., Source of Solutions
Evening Neville, Finally, You ask a Real Question ! ! At 04:44 PM 11/14/2008, you wrote: OK, now tell me the conversion recipe from ec to ppm. First, First, First, ... There is NONE !Period . I hope you can understand that. I would have to say, You question is even BOGUS . Do you think all the Scientist in the world are Wrong ? You may forgotten, They measure EC and Calculate ppm. And you think I am TOO !That may be just as bad. There are no ppm meters, None Exist, None Exist. Even the instrument manufacturers tell you that ! ( Fancy LABS are not Meters, as has been pointed out on this list ) Forget the ppm, just tell me why these two readings are so close. You are the one that is talking ppm. Perhaps I'm not explaining properly, I'm not questioning the meters, per sae, just the readings, I wonder why not ? look at 2b and notice NaCl is 13.6, now look at 3b and you will see a huge drop to 6.3 and yet they both were oo8ppm. See what I am saying? I'm aware that water temperature can alter readings, Most half decent metes attempt to compensate for that. ( EC Meters ) I rechecked these several times and got no variation, readings remained the same. Without getting technical, the answer to your question is very simple. Either your solutions are changing, or Your Two BIT meters are just that. Buy a good one, $ 75 to $ 300, or more, than you might have a reason to question something. ( Still, you are measuring EC, not ppm ) I think you are wasting your time, doing what many have done before, to no Avail. Recently I asked my friend, a Physics professor, one of my classical and complex questions, ( A problem I thought of myself ) His reply, we solved that long ago, that is a classic question. He did end his answer, .. with these words.for all practical purposes. The problems would take several pages, and many formulas, lots of principles, and honestly, I doubt that even he could Write a Proof for his answer. Maybe so, and maybe not. It would take him several hours to even attempt it. And further, I believe what I told you, is in fact Etched in Stone. If you do not believe, it, sent me a picture of your STONE, and I will consider it. grin Wayne Just a Redneck that don't know Crap, but I can snow many professors, Yes I can. === -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmetered comparisons., Source of Solutions
Evening Neville, I addressed this already. At 05:09 PM 11/14/2008, you wrote: Wayne, here's one I found...ec to ppm multiply by 1.5 I know you are serious, and I hate to muddy up the water, But do not bet you life upon it.grin Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmetered comparisons., Source of Solutions
Don't get me wrong Wayne, I'm not disagreeing with you or any professor or science. I know what it is I am saying in my head but it doesn't seem to transfer to paper all that readily. g Put it this way, to my knowledge there are no satisfactory methods for accurately determining ppm of CSwait for it...using the meters we use. All meters have there own in built, (if that's to be given any credibility when correlating that to CS), conversion factors blah blah and can only give a ballpark 'guess' at ppm of CS using whatever liquid or methods the particular manufacturer uses for calibration purposes on their own meters. Literature I have give a few methods of trying to determine, 'guess', the ppm of CS with the use of these meters, most of them go way over my head though. I understand that meters are not the ideal, but am not willing to 'guess' ppm just using eyesight for colour or whatever other methods which may be adopted. I am still of the mindset that *some* guide is better than none at all, however dillusional that may be. The only way I am able to keep a record of my solutions is by noting meter readings with batches produced over time so that I can refer to them in the future, other than that I could of course get lab tests done but that's out of the question due to financial expenditure required, and they won't be repeatable anyway due to all the 'gremlins' that creep in, (I would never get two results the same so what's the point), so I am stuck with meters I'm afraid, as are thousands of others around the world. See, if my lad was to get another case of Shingles I am in a better position now with the use of these meters to administer CS in a far more precise manner than I did in the past. I'm building up my own medicinal uses and dosages of CS for my own benefit. Hey, and my lil ol 'two bit meters' would be the same meters that thousands of people around the globe would be using *in their homes* by the way. g 'Practical purposes', yeah well that's where these 'two bit meters' come in isn't it. g For practical purposes they will give one an idea of ppm, not precise, but an idea. I could use a bucket to measure the ingredients when making a cake instead of teaspoons, but it would be more accurate than just pouring out of a bag. OK, I give in, you're the exception. really big g My initial question hasn't been answered by the way! N. - Original Message - From: Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:53 AM Subject: CSmetered comparisons., Source of Solutions Evening Neville, Finally, You ask a Real Question ! ! At 04:44 PM 11/14/2008, you wrote: OK, now tell me the conversion recipe from ec to ppm. First, First, First, ... There is NONE !Period . I hope you can understand that. I would have to say, You question is even BOGUS . Do you think all the Scientist in the world are Wrong ? You may forgotten, They measure EC and Calculate ppm. And you think I am TOO !That may be just as bad. There are no ppm meters, None Exist, None Exist. Even the instrument manufacturers tell you that ! ( Fancy LABS are not Meters, as has been pointed out on this list ) Forget the ppm, just tell me why these two readings are so close. You are the one that is talking ppm. Perhaps I'm not explaining properly, I'm not questioning the meters, per sae, just the readings, I wonder why not ? look at 2b and notice NaCl is 13.6, now look at 3b and you will see a huge drop to 6.3 and yet they both were oo8ppm. See what I am saying? I'm aware that water temperature can alter readings, Most half decent metes attempt to compensate for that. ( EC Meters ) I rechecked these several times and got no variation, readings remained the same. Without getting technical, the answer to your question is very simple. Either your solutions are changing, or Your Two BIT meters are just that. Buy a good one, $ 75 to $ 300, or more, than you might have a reason to question something. ( Still, you are measuring EC, not ppm ) I think you are wasting your time, doing what many have done before, to no Avail. Recently I asked my friend, a Physics professor, one of my classical and complex questions, ( A problem I thought of myself ) His reply, we solved that long ago, that is a classic question. He did end his answer, .. with these words.for all practical purposes. The problems would take several pages, and many formulas, lots of principles, and honestly, I doubt that even he could Write a Proof for his answer. Maybe so, and maybe not. It would take him several hours to even attempt it. And further, I believe what I told you, is in fact Etched in Stone. If you do not believe, it, sent me a picture of your STONE, and I will consider it. grin Wayne Just a Redneck that don't know Crap,
Re: CSmetered comparisons., Source of Solutions
Oops, sorry Wayne, forgot about the 'calculate' part. g - Original Message - From: Neville nevillem...@bigpond.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 12:10 PM Subject: Re: CSmetered comparisons., Source of Solutions Don't get me wrong Wayne, I'm not disagreeing with you or any professor or science. I know what it is I am saying in my head but it doesn't seem to transfer to paper all that readily. g Put it this way, to my knowledge there are no satisfactory methods for accurately determining ppm of CSwait for it...using the meters we use. All meters have there own in built, (if that's to be given any credibility when correlating that to CS), conversion factors blah blah and can only give a ballpark 'guess' at ppm of CS using whatever liquid or methods the particular manufacturer uses for calibration purposes on their own meters. Literature I have give a few methods of trying to determine, 'guess', the ppm of CS with the use of these meters, most of them go way over my head though. I understand that meters are not the ideal, but am not willing to 'guess' ppm just using eyesight for colour or whatever other methods which may be adopted. I am still of the mindset that *some* guide is better than none at all, however dillusional that may be. The only way I am able to keep a record of my solutions is by noting meter readings with batches produced over time so that I can refer to them in the future, other than that I could of course get lab tests done but that's out of the question due to financial expenditure required, and they won't be repeatable anyway due to all the 'gremlins' that creep in, (I would never get two results the same so what's the point), so I am stuck with meters I'm afraid, as are thousands of others around the world. See, if my lad was to get another case of Shingles I am in a better position now with the use of these meters to administer CS in a far more precise manner than I did in the past. I'm building up my own medicinal uses and dosages of CS for my own benefit. Hey, and my lil ol 'two bit meters' would be the same meters that thousands of people around the globe would be using *in their homes* by the way. g 'Practical purposes', yeah well that's where these 'two bit meters' come in isn't it. g For practical purposes they will give one an idea of ppm, not precise, but an idea. I could use a bucket to measure the ingredients when making a cake instead of teaspoons, but it would be more accurate than just pouring out of a bag. OK, I give in, you're the exception. really big g My initial question hasn't been answered by the way! N. - Original Message - From: Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:53 AM Subject: CSmetered comparisons., Source of Solutions Evening Neville, Finally, You ask a Real Question ! ! At 04:44 PM 11/14/2008, you wrote: OK, now tell me the conversion recipe from ec to ppm. First, First, First, ... There is NONE !Period . I hope you can understand that. I would have to say, You question is even BOGUS . Do you think all the Scientist in the world are Wrong ? You may forgotten, They measure EC and Calculate ppm. And you think I am TOO !That may be just as bad. There are no ppm meters, None Exist, None Exist. Even the instrument manufacturers tell you that ! ( Fancy LABS are not Meters, as has been pointed out on this list ) Forget the ppm, just tell me why these two readings are so close. You are the one that is talking ppm. Perhaps I'm not explaining properly, I'm not questioning the meters, per sae, just the readings, I wonder why not ? look at 2b and notice NaCl is 13.6, now look at 3b and you will see a huge drop to 6.3 and yet they both were oo8ppm. See what I am saying? I'm aware that water temperature can alter readings, Most half decent metes attempt to compensate for that. ( EC Meters ) I rechecked these several times and got no variation, readings remained the same. Without getting technical, the answer to your question is very simple. Either your solutions are changing, or Your Two BIT meters are just that. Buy a good one, $ 75 to $ 300, or more, than you might have a reason to question something. ( Still, you are measuring EC, not ppm ) I think you are wasting your time, doing what many have done before, to no Avail. Recently I asked my friend, a Physics professor, one of my classical and complex questions, ( A problem I thought of myself ) His reply, we solved that long ago, that is a classic question. He did end his answer, .. with these words.for all practical purposes. The problems would take several pages, and many formulas, lots of principles, and honestly, I doubt that even he could Write a Proof for his answer. Maybe so, and maybe not. It
Re: CSSerrapeptase
For dissolving aterial plaque, are you using the dosage as stated on the product or a differenc dosing? sol Norton, Steve wrote: I have used 3 brands. Serrazimes powder from Beyond a Century, SerraEzyme from GoodHealthNaturallyNutrition and Doctors Best. As far as I can tell they all work the same. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSEC measurement and the Real World, ( so I think )
Evening Neville, Your last message, ( the long one ) was a good explanation. At 03:31 PM 11/14/2008, you wrote: Forget the ppm, just tell me why these two readings are so close. EC is an accepted method of measurement. If nothing changes, the good meters will often be very uniform. Seems I have at least two, standards for calibration, and maybe three. Plus my meter has 3 ranges, which makes it even better.( and of course, better ones exist ) No matter how good the cheap meters are, you cannot expect them to be in the class with better ones, and using multiple calibration points. Wayne, here's one I found...ec to ppm multiply by 1.5 Now, .. If you had said, this is good enough for most practical purposes. I would have said, ... Yes, that is a scientific answer, it is acceptable, and I agree. grin Most of my EC measurement has been relative to plant solutions, not the original EC, but leachate after the pants removed all the nutrients that if could absorb, ( often measure water before additions, have spent hours adding drops of acid to a 500 gallon take to get the EC just right ) A few drops and test, a few drops and test. I have measured this leachate from a complete greenhouse, and data logged the information. The sensors cost from 350 to 500 dollars, .. and guess what ? They have to be calibrated with an accepted standard, and at times, an EC meter is used. That is why I need a better meter No matter the application, no matter the accepted accuracy, it is the same ball game with all the same problems. Of course, I calculate the ppm, ( for plant nutrients ) which if very critical at some stages or growth. At other stage, I deviate from the industry standard, by 75 to 150, or even 200 ppm. I have proven some thing by doing this, many of which few people in the world,knows. Here is one. 50 cherry tomatoes on one cluster, they fork 5 times. Ask the scientist and horticulturist how to do that. Some might be able to tell you. Here is picture of the proof. http://www.fugitt.com/chertom.htm You can see the forks, maybe not the 5 forks, but I have counted them and the 50 tomatoes. On a full size tomato, I have produced clusters 1 inch apart, and can grow the stalk 50 feet tall, maybe 75 to 100. And they can reach hundreds of feet in length. Tell me anything you can about plants, or EC measurement either. I am anxious to learn a few tricks I do not know. Wayne When you run out of anything to do, calibrate humidity, and make the standard === -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSerrapeptase
The product says to take 1 to 3 capsules a day and I take only 1. Frankly, I am being cautious which is a little unusual for me. But an enzyme that can disolve arterial plaque, dead tissue such as scarring and cysts seems awful powerful to me. I also have some Nattokinase enzyme as well that I have not even tried. But I have it available and have given my wife instructions that if I ever have a heart attack or stroke that she is to give me a dose of Nattokinase and Serrapeptase before she even calls for an ambulance. They are powerful enough that I treat them both with caution. - Steve N - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri Nov 14 22:09:13 2008 Subject: Re: CSSerrapeptase For dissolving aterial plaque, are you using the dosage as stated on the product or a differenc dosing? sol Norton, Steve wrote: I have used 3 brands. Serrazimes powder from Beyond a Century, SerraEzyme from GoodHealthNaturallyNutrition and Doctors Best. As far as I can tell they all work the same. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMagic Date in History, ( Historical Event )
Few will know the significance of the date, November 14th, 1938. Yes, some great historical event took place on that date. ( Important to some of us ) Not anything that changed the world, not very much. That is the Date that I was born ! November 14th, 1938 Not important to everyone, but very important to me. Only 70 years ago, that is all. My blood report last week was excellent, only one thing off a point or two. If you know enough about Blood Reports, being out of range means you are healthier than the group of people that produce the normal ranges. ( 100,000 sick people ) Yes, no scientific standards are reflected in the normal ranges on blood reports. Often I think they are indeed a FRAUD ! I have only studied health and nutrition for 50 years. Some information must have changed, I forgot some, or got he facts twisted. Or some of all three. Some off the books I have read were written in the 1940's, 1930's and back to 1927. Not much scientific information back then. Of course not. I consider Nutrition to be a relative new science, if it is a science at all. It may be like a lot of other things, Guess, Wish, and Hope. Lots I could tell you, but most of the things you know. Wayne, RNX Just a dumb old redneck that has never been to school == -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEC measurement and the Real World, ( so I think )
- Original Message - From: Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 2:41 PM Subject: CSEC measurement and the Real World, ( so I think ) Thanks for that Wayne. Jeez, you certainly know your 'tommies', I could taste them just looking. g The HM Digital Comm 100 EC/TDS/TEMP meter I thought was supposed to be fairly reasonable for the dollars, well for the 'home hobbyist' anyway, the other one, the Hanna, is what I class as a 'cheapy', even though they state that it's supposed to be pre-calibrated for CS purposes??? My question was not related to ppm necessarily though, it was more to do with the closeness in readings between the two highlighted solutions, and what that may be telling me, when the other two readings, using the same meter, were all over the place, sorry Wayne, I can't express what I am asking adequately, I'll let it go and just put it down to yet another frustration. not sure whether to grin or scowl now Neville. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMagic Date in History, ( Historical Event )
Happy Birthday! - Original Message - From: Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri Nov 14 23:57:57 2008 Subject: CSMagic Date in History, ( Historical Event ) Few will know the significance of the date, November 14th, 1938. Yes, some great historical event took place on that date. ( Important to some of us ) Not anything that changed the world, not very much. That is the Date that I was born ! November 14th, 1938 Not important to everyone, but very important to me. Only 70 years ago, that is all. My blood report last week was excellent, only one thing off a point or two. If you know enough about Blood Reports, being out of range means you are healthier than the group of people that produce the normal ranges. ( 100,000 sick people ) Yes, no scientific standards are reflected in the normal ranges on blood reports. Often I think they are indeed a FRAUD ! I have only studied health and nutrition for 50 years. Some information must have changed, I forgot some, or got he facts twisted. Or some of all three. Some off the books I have read were written in the 1940's, 1930's and back to 1927. Not much scientific information back then. Of course not. I consider Nutrition to be a relative new science, if it is a science at all. It may be like a lot of other things, Guess, Wish, and Hope. Lots I could tell you, but most of the things you know. Wayne, RNX Just a dumb old redneck that has never been to school == -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMagic Date in History, ( Historical Event )
- Original Message - From: Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 4:27 PM Subject: CSMagic Date in History, ( Historical Event ) [Few will know the significance of the date, November 14th, 1938. Yes, some great historical event took place on that date. ( Important to some of us ) Not anything that changed the world, not very much. That is the Date that I was born ! November 14th, 1938 Not important to everyone, but very important to me. Only 70 years ago, that is all.] -Happy Birthday to youHappy Birthday to you. This was the day the world was graced with your presence Waynehave a drink on me. g N. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMagic Date in History, ( Historical Event )
The 14th of November is of some significance to me as it is the wedding anniversary of my late parents. Without this event, more than likely I wouldn't be sitting here wishing you a Happy Birthday Wayne! Hanneke At 04:27 PM 15/11/2008, you wrote: Few will know the significance of the date, November 14th, 1938. --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 081114-0, 14/11/2008 Tested on: 15/11/2008 4:47:20 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSMagic Date in History, ( Historical Event )
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:57:57 -0600 To: silver-list@eskimo.com From: cwa...@netdoor.com Subject: CSMagic Date in History, ( Historical Event ) That is the Date that I was born ! November 14th, 1938HAPPY BIRTHDAY WAYNE. As they say youv'e come a long way baby! Not important to everyone, but very important to me.I don't think that is so, you have helped so many people. Only 70 years ago, that is all. My husband has you beat by one year. He still can out work most younger men and that was even after the by-pass surgery. My blood report last week was excellent, only one thing off a point or two. If you know enough about Blood Reports, being out of range means you are healthier than the group of people that produce the normal ranges. ( 100,000 sick people ) Yes, no scientific standards are reflected in the normal ranges on blood reports. It may be like a lot of other things, Guess, Wish, and Hope.I think you started down the path of finding out what healthy was long before many of us and have been well rewarded because of that fact. Lots I could tell you, but most of the things you know.You really should write a bookthen we would get the rest of the story (grin). Dianne Wayne, RNX Just a dumb old redneck that has never been to school == -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
