date:20090819

That 5000 stuff is bound in protein and not any more bio available than
about A 10 ppm home made solution if that much.
Ions of silver which home made mainly consists of
can go where protein molecules can't without getting stuck and causing
Argeria.
Dave



On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:37 PM, MaryAnn Helland wrote:

> Hi Mike.  I think that most people aim for a ppm-level of around 10.  We
> are happy with anything in the range from as low as 5 ppms to as high as 20
> ppms.  Mine is rarely higher than 14 or 15.  No -- most of us aren't
> guessing -- we're using a tester of some sort.  Mine is a Hanna tester
> (available from www.wishgranted.com).  You simply dip the end of the unit
> into your silver solution and it gives a digital readout of the approximate
> ppm level.  Yes -- approximate.  This tester isn't designed to measure ppms
> of silver -- there actually isn't any unit designed to do that -- but this
> comes pretty darn close for a reasonable price.  I think I paid $55.00 for
> mine.  Plus shipping.  Incidentally -- there are proponents of the theory
> that the lower ppm-level CS is as effective, or more effective than the
> higher ppm-level CS.  IOW -- 5 ppms are just fine.  Quality control is
> mostly visual -- if you process it correctly, and your tester gives you a
> reading of between 5 and 20 ppms, and your product is perfectly clear, then
> you have good quality Colloidal Silver.  Or, Electrically Isolated Silver,
> as we like to call it here.  Hope this helps.  MA
>
> On 8/19/2009 9:55:16 PM, luv2h...@optonline.net wrote:
>
> > I've now read a number of posts regarding how much and how often folks
> take CS in the attempt to treat Lyme. However, no posts have actually spoke
> to the strength of the solution, which to me seems to be a very important
> variable. For instance, one teaspoon of a 5000 ppm solution is a heck of a
> lot more silver than 1 gallon of a 1 ppm solution.  I mean, for you folks
> out there making your own silver solutionsdo you have any idea how
> strong it is, or are you just guessing? If you do, what do you use for
> quality control?
> >
> > Mike
>

Re: CS>Testing....

I used 20 ppm approx. for my battle with Lyme. The colloid master Model 777
www.wishgranted.com makes a gallon at a time with a sun tea jar using two
maple leaves hung in the water with flat straps so they stay straight with
each other,you can decant from the spigot without filtering.
No stirring needed as the polarity is reversed every 55 seconds.
No hassle to that arrangement.
I wouldn't have anything else. Of course I don't get any kicks out of
sitting in the middle of my lawn and watching the grass grow either. That is
about what you get with the battery arrangements.
Dave

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:37 PM, MaryAnn Helland wrote:

> Hi Mike.  I think that most people aim for a ppm-level of around 10.  We
> are happy with anything in the range from as low as 5 ppms to as high as 20
> ppms.  Mine is rarely higher than 14 or 15.  No -- most of us aren't
> guessing -- we're using a tester of some sort.  Mine is a Hanna tester
> (available from www.wishgranted.com).  You simply dip the end of the unit
> into your silver solution and it gives a digital readout of the approximate
> ppm level.  Yes -- approximate.  This tester isn't designed to measure ppms
> of silver -- there actually isn't any unit designed to do that -- but this
> comes pretty darn close for a reasonable price.  I think I paid $55.00 for
> mine.  Plus shipping.  Incidentally -- there are proponents of the theory
> that the lower ppm-level CS is as effective, or more effective than the
> higher ppm-level CS.  IOW -- 5 ppms are just fine.  Quality control is
> mostly visual -- if you process it correctly, and your tester gives you a
> reading of between 5 and 20 ppms, and your product is perfectly clear, then
> you have good quality Colloidal Silver.  Or, Electrically Isolated Silver,
> as we like to call it here.  Hope this helps.  MA
>
> On 8/19/2009 9:55:16 PM, luv2h...@optonline.net wrote:
>
> > I've now read a number of posts regarding how much and how often folks
> take CS in the attempt to treat Lyme. However, no posts have actually spoke
> to the strength of the solution, which to me seems to be a very important
> variable. For instance, one teaspoon of a 5000 ppm solution is a heck of a
> lot more silver than 1 gallon of a 1 ppm solution.  I mean, for you folks
> out there making your own silver solutionsdo you have any idea how
> strong it is, or are you just guessing? If you do, what do you use for
> quality control?
> >
> > Mike
>

Re: CS>OT - Transcript of Deepak Chopra on CNN/Campbell Brown - 18 August evening

2009-08-19 Thread Sandee George

DEEPAK CHOPRA, AUTHOR, "THE BOOK OF SECRETS": It's good to see you,  
Campbell.


BROWN: You are calling, I know, for a public awareness campaign to try  
to sell people on the need for health care reform in this country.  
But, you know, President Obama's been out there talking about this  
every day for weeks now. You don't think he's getting the job done?


CHOPRA: I think President Obama is doing a great job.

But there are special interest groups who are taking the attention  
away from the facts. The facts are that we spend $2.4 trillion, more  
than any other country in the world, on health care. We rank 32 in  
health performance. We rank 72 in health levels.


We spend $6 billion on advertising, $1.4 million a day on lobbyists in  
Washington trying to influence people in government, who we have  
elected, to work against us. Sarah Palin and Senator Grassley, when  
they talk about death panels, they are fear-mongering. I think people  
should be aware that most of the interventions at the end of life do  
not prolong life. They prolong suffering.


They wreak unlimited, untold suffering and carnage on our people,  
while benefiting special interest groups to the tune of billions of  
dollars. There's something drastically wrong with our health care  
system, and unless we become aware that 90 percent of the health care  
dollars that are spent are on preventive illnesses.


BROWN: So, explain this to me, because I want to get into the  
specifics here. You recently wrote that we need a health care system  
that reduces fear, as well as cost. What do you mean by that?


CHOPRA: Well, you know, our health care industry is the only industry  
that creates a demand when there is no need to create a demand.


You know, capitalism is built on a supply-demand theory, but we  
doctors have the privilege of generating our own demand by writing a  
prescription or writing a procedure. The most devastating and  
expensive health care technology is a physician's pen and a  
prescription pad.


You know, 80 percent of the drugs we use are of optional or marginal  
benefit. We spend $700 billion a year on unnecessary tests. The next  
time you go to a doctor for a routine examination, there's a 43  
percent chance that you will be prescribed an unnecessary diagnostic  
procedure or a test.


You know that we spend 2.5 million unnecessary surgeries a year,  
hysterectomies, spinal fusions, knee operations, CABG, angioplasty,  
which do nothing to help the patient. So, unless we are honest enough  
to look at our own self and how we're generating this demand -- we  
could be saving $1 trillion a year.


BROWN: how much is also the individual's responsibility, taking  
responsibility for your own wellness? I know you have talked about  
this as well.


CHOPRA: Well, it's very important, Campbell, but the individual has to  
be aware. We have to create a public awareness campaign, which is the  
only missing part.


If people would realize that they could prevent 80 to 90 percent of  
chronic illness just by doing three things, exercise, diet, and stress  
management, and you would regulate, help regulate the genes that are  
responsible for cancer, for heart disease, for inflammation.


We know that the human body's not a structure. It's a process. And if  
you understand the process, we can influence the outcome of illness  
and prevent much of this illness at no cost whatsoever, just by being  
more aware.


BROWN: Individual responsibility.

Deepak Chopra making his case tonight, thank you so much for your  
time. Appreciate it.


CHOPRA: Thank you. Thank you.

Re: CS>Testing....

2009-08-19 Thread MaryAnn Helland

Hi Mike.  I think that most people aim for a ppm-level of around 10.  We are 
happy with anything in the range from as low as 5 ppms to as high as 20 ppms.  
Mine is rarely higher than 14 or 15.  No -- most of us aren't guessing -- we're 
using a tester of some sort.  Mine is a Hanna tester (available from 
www.wishgranted.com).  You simply dip the end of the unit into your silver 
solution and it gives a digital readout of the approximate ppm level.  Yes -- 
approximate.  This tester isn't designed to measure ppms of silver -- there 
actually isn't any unit designed to do that -- but this comes pretty darn close 
for a reasonable price.  I think I paid $55.00 for mine.  Plus shipping.  
Incidentally -- there are proponents of the theory that the lower ppm-level CS 
is as effective, or more effective than the higher ppm-level CS.  IOW -- 5 ppms 
are just fine.  Quality control is mostly visual -- if you process it 
correctly, and your tester gives you
 a reading of between 5 and 20 ppms, and your product is perfectly clear, then 
you have good quality Colloidal Silver.  Or, Electrically Isolated Silver, as 
we like to call it here.  Hope this helps.  MA

On 8/19/2009 9:55:16 PM, luv2h...@optonline.net wrote:

> I've now read a number of posts regarding how much and how often folks take 
> CS in the attempt to treat Lyme. However, no posts have actually spoke to the 
> strength of the solution, which to me seems to be a very important variable. 
> For instance, one teaspoon of a 5000 ppm solution is a heck of a lot more 
> silver than 1 gallon of a 1 ppm solution.  I mean, for you folks out there 
> making your own silver solutionsdo you have any idea how strong it is, or 
> are you just guessing? If you do, what do you use for quality control?
> 
> Mike

Re: CS>Adjunctive Protocol for DMSO (TOPICAL) Applications:COMMENT

2009-08-19 Thread Pat

Thank you so much for the information Brooks.  I look forward to your posts!

Pat

From: Brooks Bradley 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 6:59:15 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Adjunctive Protocol for DMSO (TOPICAL) Applications:COMMENT

Dear Pat, 
Yes, you can use the same laser you use to check your CS with.  You can hold 
the tip as close to the skin as you likehowever, any closer tha 1/4 of an 
inch will, in all probability, induce a little discomfort in a few 
minutesif actually touching the skin surface--in the case of the laser. 
 With the LED array you can keep it in contact with the skin until the heat 
induced makes it too uncomfortableif you so desire.  In any event, with the 
exception of allowing the laser to shine directly into an eye.there is 
little to consider any kind of health threat. 
Moving, or holding in one place, is at your option.  Depending on the area 
(size) of the immediate pain field, one will, usually, get the best result from 
starting in the center of the insult and working outward---slowly, in gradually 
increasing circles.  A useful time versus area ratio is about 5 minutes 
duration per one square inch.within the INTENSE discomfort (pain) region.  
Slow movement across the target zone, is fine.  If using an LED array the 
ENTIRE light field (square inches) may be considered as the effective treatment 
area. 
A typical laser pointer will, easily penetrate 1/2 inch of lean tissue (more, 
if fatty tissue).  Any LED less than 3500 mcd power level-will penetrate 
lesser depthsbut will, still, be helpful. 
Sincerely,  Brooks. 
p.s.  There is NO DANGER of the laser pointer "burning a hole" in your 
skin.the power level is too small for such effect. LED flashlights are, 
rarely, suitable for use as the power level in lumens is too lowand the 
portion of the color spectrum is incorrect. 

>
>CAUTION: Do note that extended exposure to non-filtered, high-energy light in 
>this part if the spectrum can result in discomforting  form of surface-tissue 
>blistering.  Therefore, exposure beyond 5 minutes at a single session is not 
>recommended for researchers.   --
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Fw: CS>DIY Confidence Test For Liposomal Encapsulation

2009-08-19 Thread jlgregel


I completed my first batch last night ...just about 24hrs ago.  Used the same 
US cleaner from Harbor Freight.  I purchased from the bulk section at my 
favorite health foods store, 100% ascorbic acid (ph 2.1)  $4.84 for .20 lb and 
soy lecithin granules at 5.97 for 1 lb.  With the machine I've only got about 
$35.00 invested and will make several batches before I need to purchase more 
ascorbic acid.
I used room temp distilled water.  Stirred in separate cups for almost 15 
minutes off and on.  It took that long for both to dissolve.  There was a 
little bit of oiliness on the top of the dissolved lecithin and I could still 
find a stray undisolved granule or two, but really had to dig for those.
Processed for 4 cycles (8 minutes while gently stirring).  After the first 
cycle the liquid started splashing drops out of the unit, but I just kept going.
Poured into 2 sterlized glass jelly jars and put in the fridge.  Two hours 
later there was a separation of some type, leaving about 1/8th inch of slightly 
darker liquid in the bottom of the jars.  Now, 24 hrs later it looks exactly 
the same. It is close to the color of beaten raw egg.

All this is in hopes of helping a feline I have that has probable feline herpes 
virus, even though tests are negative.  He got his first tiny dose last night.  
He gets regular nebulizing with cs and a bit of DMSO.  Anyone have any thoughts 
to if there would be a benefit to adding some of this encapsulated c to the 
nebulizing liquid?

I'll try the confirmation test Brooks has described over the weekend.  For now, 
I'll continue using what I have already made.

We are anxious to try it in the all organic goats milk, cs soap we make for 
troubled skin.  

Maybe no new pointers here, but it all seems simple enough.
Anxious to read of others experiences, 
Lin
  - Original Message - 
  From: Del at Dri-Wash 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: 2009-08-19 15:42
  Subject: Re: CS>DIY Confidence Test For Liposomal Encapsulation


  Ok, I made my first batch of Homemade Liposomal Vitamin C today with mixed 
results. I used the small 50 watt ($25) Harbor Freight U S cleaner, stirred 
frequently and cycled the unit 4 times (12 minutes). Following I poured the 
mixture from the US machine into a large measuring cup. There were quite a few 
undissolved granules of letchin left in the US.

  I than proceeded with the test described by Brooks pouring 4 oz. into a 12 
oz. straight walled drink glass and adding 1 oz. of water with 1/4 teaspoon 
bicarbonate of soda and had between a half inch and 3/4’s inch of foam on top 
the test liposomal. I read this to indicate I had less than 50% encapsulation.

  Next go at it I will try warming the water slightly prior to mixing and see 
if that helps at all. For Vitamin C I used Vitamin C Foundation Pharmaceutical 
Powder and for Letchin I used NOW Brand non-GMO Granules.

  Anyone else got any pointers?

- Original Message - 
From: Brooks Bradley 
To: Silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 1:54 PM
Subject: CS>DIY Confidence Test For Liposomal Encapsulation


Although not scientifically rigorous, I offer a simple test which will 
yield the 
DIY researcher some element of confidence that they do, in fact, have a 
useful measure of liposomal 
encapsulate. 
First, pour about 4 ounces of your finished Vitamin C encapsulate into a 
cylindrical, 12 ounce 
water glass. Next, place 1/4 teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate into about 1 
ounce of distilled water and stir 
for 3 to 5 seconds. Next, pour the sodium bicarbonate solution into the 
Vitamin C mixture and stir gently for several seconds. Note: If the 
foam/bubble line which forms on top is 1/2 inch or less---in height---you 
have about a 50% encapsulation efficiency. If the foam/bubble line is 3/8 of 
one inch...or less, you have about a 60% efficiency. If the 
foam/bubble line is 1/8 inch or less, you have about 75% efficiency. If the 
foam/bubble line is 
just a trace.you should major in chemistry. 
The percentages given above, represent the amount of the total Vitamin C 
component incorporated during the encapsulation process.that was actually 
encapsulated. The less encapsulationthe greater the foaming. 
What is, actually, occurring in this test is that the ascorbic acid 
fraction is being transformed into the sodium ascorbate form of vitamin C. This 
test does not negatively affect the usefulness of the solution you have 
tested.as the isolated Vitamin C component is not adversely affecting the 
encapsulate (which is being protected by the lecithin bubble-covering.) 
Actually, the sodium ascorbate form of vitamin C is greater than an 
order-of-magnitude more soluble for tissue incorporation..than is the 
ascorbic acid form. 
In any event this simple test should serve to raise the level of confidence 
in the DIY researcher 
that they do---in fact---have a useful measure o

Re: CS>Testing....

2009-08-19 Thread cking001

The most common ppm range of home made CS is in the 10 to 20 ppm
range.
It is very effective. It can be used with impunity.
High ppm commercial stuff is silver combined with something else such
as silver nitrate or a mild silver protein.
These need more knowledge to use safely and can cause agryia.

Chuck
NJ State Bird is the Mosquito.

On 8/19/2009 9:55:16 PM, luv2h...@optonline.net wrote:
> Dee.
> I've now read a number of posts regarding how much and how often folks take 
> CS in the attempt to treat Lyme. However, no posts have actually spoke to the 
> strength of the solution, which to me seems to be a very important variable. 
> For instance, one teaspoon of a 5000 ppm solution is a heck of a lot more 
> silver than 1 gallon of a 1 ppm solution.  I mean, for you folks out there 
> making your own silver solutionsdo you have any idea how strong it is, or 
> are you just guessing? If you do, what do you use for quality control?
> 
> Mike
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick
> Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 9:20 am
> Subject: Re: CS>Testing
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> 
> > I don't
> think anyone would recommend taking this ppm for any
> > length of
> > time. Much better (and cheaper!) to make your own and just as,
> > if not
> > more, effective. dee
> >
> > On 19 Aug 2009, at 01:10, luv2h...@optonline.net wrote:
> >
> > > Marshallee...
> > >
> > > Thanks and glad to hear the CS helped with your Lyme. Mine is
> > in
> > > the late disseminated stage as well, had it since 1986 though
> > it was
> > > only diagnosed 3 years ago. Three years o
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CS>PEMF OT

2009-08-19 Thread Sharlene Miyamura

>
>  Anyone who may have used Pulsed Electro Magnetic Field therapy for pain,
> circulation, etc?  I'm interested in getting a mattress but would like some
> info before purchasing.  Thanks much!
>

Sharlene

Re: CS>Testing....

2009-08-19 Thread luv2howl

Dee.I've now read a number of posts regarding how much and how often folks 
take CS in the attempt to treat Lyme.  However, no posts have actually spoke to 
the strength of the solution, which to me seems to be a very important 
variable.  For instance, one teaspoon of a 5000 ppm solution is a heck of a lot 
more silver than 1 gallon of a 1 ppm solution.  I mean, for you folks out there 
making your own silver solutionsdo you have any idea how strong it is, or 
are you just guessing?  If you do, what do you use for quality control?

Mike

- Original Message -
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 9:20 am
Subject: Re: CS>Testing
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

> I don't think anyone would recommend taking this ppm for any 
> length of 
> time. Much better (and cheaper!) to make your own and just as, 
> if not 
> more, effective. dee
> 
> On 19 Aug 2009, at 01:10, luv2h...@optonline.net wrote:
> 
> > Marshallee...
> >
> > Thanks and glad to hear the CS helped with your Lyme. Mine is 
> in 
> > the late disseminated stage as well, had it since 1986 though 
> it was 
> > only diagnosed 3 years ago. Three years of antibiotics, both 
> orally 
> > and shots, haven't helped too much so I'm looking into other 
> > options. CS appears to be a recommended option and I've just 
> > started using a product called Invive 5000 ppm.however, at 
> the 
> > recommended dosage of 4 teaspoons per day it will become 
> somewhat 
> > expensive at $100 per 118 ml bottle. So I have some 
> questions, if 
> > you don't mind.
> >
> 
>

Re: CS>(LL) CS (EIS) / DMSO / Glycerine did it again...

2009-08-19 Thread Smitty

Did you invite her to the lists ?

Smitty
~

On 8/19/09, zzekel...@aol.com  wrote:
>
>
> Three weeks ago I was in Tractor Supply store to get DMSO--I Mentioned to
> the girl there What I was making-- She showed me  spots on both legs & her
> elbows. Bad skin rash. She said she had, had it for years. In the warm
> months, especially,  it was itchy  & caused discomfort but was always there
> & a bother... I asked her if she would like to try the Brooks Bradley mix.
> She said--" I'll try anything"---{{ We talked a lot--I told her about the
> silver list & DMSO list. (( & Silver Pets))  }} I took her a little jar of
> the mixture two days later Today I was in the store again & she was so
> pleased  No more itching---Her skin was smooth---no more rash---She did
> ask if the color would return. The spots where the rash was, was white. That
> I couldn't answer cause---I didn't know...   It really feels great to be
> able to help someone !! Thanks Brooks  & every one on the lists for all the
> information. Lois
>
>  
>


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CS>(LL) CS (EIS) / DMSO / Glycerine did it again...

2009-08-19 Thread ZZekelink

Three weeks ago I was in Tractor Supply store to get  DMSO--I Mentioned to 
the girl there What I was making-- She showed me   spots on both legs & her 
elbows. Bad skin rash. She said she had, had it for  years. In the warm 
months, especially,  it was itchy  & caused  discomfort but was always there & 
a 
bother... I asked her if she would like  to try the Brooks Bradley mix. She 
said--" I'll try anything"---{{ We talked a  lot--I told her about the 
silver list & DMSO list. (( & Silver  Pets))  }} I took her a little jar of the 
mixture two days later Today  I was in the store again & she was so 
pleased  No more itching---Her  skin was smooth---no more rash---She did 
ask 
if the color would return. The  spots where the rash was, was white. That I 
couldn't answer cause---I didn't  know...   It really feels great to be 
able to help someone !! Thanks  Brooks  & every one on the lists for all the 
information.  Lois

Re: CS>Testing....

Have her try the treatment every twenty minutes to totally
saturate her tissues and see if that doesn't do the trick.
I'm not in remission --I got rid of it.
I had done a lot of research on it as well and that is why I figured a total
saturation would have to be done(take more in than your body can eliminate).
Dave

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Scott Adams  wrote:

>  I have to say I am very skeptical that Chronic Lyme would be cured in
> that short a time. My wife is on 12oz a day for the last 5 months. We can
> say its in remission, but we don't believe its cured. If even one spirochete
> is in a cyst somewhere or a biofilm it can rebound when the body gets
> stressed.
>
> If you did indeed have Chronic Lyme and got cured that is wonderful. I just
> find it hard to believe with all the studying and research I have been doing
> on this disease in the last 3 years.
>
>  Scott Adams
> msad...@msadams.com www.msadams.com
> Moderator of Lyme_rife yahoo list
> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Lyme_Rife/
>
>  --
> *From:* Dave Darrin [mailto:davedar...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:52 PM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: CS>Testing
>
> After 42 years of late Lyme I bought a CS maker from Wish granted.com and
> it took me three days to rid myself of Lyme.
> I never took any antibiotics as the doctor didn't think I had it.
> He saw the rash as it kept repeating every few years and the tests came
> back positive but he said that Lyme isn't a problem in this area . As if I
> only stayed here. I contacted the disease in Germany in1957. That was before
> it even had a name. If you have late Lyme you can imagine what I went
> through in that length of time. That was about 8 years ago and it takes a
> long time to heal from the damage even after the spirochetes are gone.
> Dave
>
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Smitty  wrote:
>
>> Dave:
>> Are you gonna make your OWN CS maker ?
>>
>> Smitty
>>
>> On 8/19/09, Dave Darrin  wrote:
>> > Limes is a plural as well as a noun. Why didn't you capitalize lime to
>> make
>> > a noun of it. Lime with an apostrophe and an s
>> > denotes possession -- so what belonged to that Lyme?
>> > I think any one would extrapolate a small green fruit with the
>> appearance of
>> > a small green orange would be a Lime.
>> >  Dave
>> > We don't have anything useful to talk about today eh.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Marshall Dudley > >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Dave Darrin wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Lyme's are small green oranges. Lyme is the disease.
>> > > > Dave
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > Hardly. Lyme's is the possessive form of Lyme, as in "Lyme's symptoms
>> > are".  What are the little green oranges? Are you talking about limes?
>> > >
>> > > Marshall
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
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>> > >
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>> > >
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>> > >
>> > > List maintainer: Mike Devour 
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>

Re: CS>Adjunctive Protocol for DMSO (TOPICAL) Applications:COMMENT

2009-08-19 Thread Brooks Bradley

Dear Pat, 
Yes, you can use the same laser you use to check your CS with.  You can hold the tip as close to the skin as you likehowever, any closer tha 1/4 of an inch will, in all probability, induce a little discomfort in a few minutesif actually touching the skin surface--in the case of the laser.  With the LED array you can keep it in contact with the skin until the heat induced makes it too uncomfortableif you so desire.  In any event, with the exception of allowing the laser to shine directly into an eye.there is little to consider any kind of health threat.
  Moving, or holding in one place, is at your option.  Depending on the area (size) of the immediate pain field, one will, usually, get the best result from starting in the center of the insult and working outward---slowly, in gradually increasing circles.  A useful time versus area ratio is about 5 minutes duration per one square inch.within the INTENSE discomfort (pain) region.  Slow movement across the target zone, is fine.  If using an LED array the ENTIRE light field (square inches) may be considered as the effective treatment area.
  A typical laser pointer will, easily penetrate 1/2 inch of lean tissue (more, if fatty tissue).  Any LED less than 3500 mcd power level-will penetrate lesser depthsbut will, still, be helpful.
Sincerely,  Brooks.  
p.s.  There is NO DANGER of the laser pointer "burning a hole" in your skin.the power level is too small for such effect. LED flashlights are, rarely, suitable for use as the power level in lumens is too lowand the portion of the color spectrum is incorrect. 


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 Subject : Re: CS>Adjunctive Protocol for DMSO (TOPICAL) Applications
 Date : Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:34:14 -0700 (PDT)
 From : Pat 
 To : silver-list@eskimo.com

Do you mean to use a laser light like one we might use to check the CS?  Just an ordinary red one?  How close would you hold it to the skin?  Do you move it back and forth over the area or just pick the most painful point and hold it there for several minutes?  I would have thought it would burn a hole through the skin.

Pat





From: Brooks Bradley 
To: Silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:58:22 PM
Subject: CS>Adjunctive Protocol for DMSO (TOPICAL) Applications

 Disclaimer:  Please understand that ALL information posted by me...or any staff memberis for RESEARCH PURPOSES ONLY and in NO WAY constitutes medical advice or prescription. 
Although this comment addresses, mostly, various posts relating to DMSO uses  during the immediate  several days past, I believe this information to be  worthy of consideration. 
Several years ago we discovered that the application of laser light, or high-power LED lightfurnished an excellent "multiplying effect" for topical applications of DMSO.  The primary influence came from a simple, but powerful, increase in  local-area circulation.  We were able to decrease swelling presentations and attendant pain, 
sometimes by 100%.via the simple expedient of furnishing exposure of the afflicted area to this form of light.  Even the cheapest Laser pointer yielded measurable, rapid, response. 
The most effective results came when the coherent light source was concentrated directly 
at the center of the pain field.  While extended exposures (15 to 20 minutes) did yield the greatest relief.even 5 minutes exposure measurably accelerated the pain mitigation 
generated.  While this combination protocol has been, previously, discussed on the listit has been some time and many newer members may not be aware of the value---andsafety.of this simple modifier. 
Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley. 
p.s.  One interesting finding, during our general investigations, was that either low Level Laser or high-power (3500 mcd and up) LED sources, when aimed directly on areas presenting infections presenting in the upper throat (especially those fulminating and/or marked by pustule presences).responded in a majority of cases, with RAPID, sometimes SPECTACULAR IMPROVEMENT-without support from ANY OTHER protocol.  However, when used in conjunction with 20% DMSO (BY VOLUME) AND 80% (BY VOLUME) 10 to 15 ppm Colloidal Silver, 
we were able to negate the effects of VERY CHALLENGING MRSA insults.in 90% of our test evaluations. 
The DMSO x CS solution was applied via a simple spray bottle and followed, immediately, with exposure to the concentrated light source. 
Be advised:  20% solutions of DMSO sprayed on the epithelial tissues in the upper throat may---in some cases---cause an involuntary gag-reflex to manifest.  While not dangerous, this condition is, sometimes, upsetting to susceptible individuals.  If the experimental subject suffers from this hyper-sensitivity type gag-reflex.just lower the DMSO component to 10%for an acceptable resolution.  For appli

Re: CS>Testing....

The tests aren't conclusive but they say it's a clinical diagnosis
that takes in the visible such as the migrans  rash that isn't seen in other
settings.
  The thing is I knew what I had because I had lived with it.
I don't have it now and haven't had any relapses.
Dave

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote:

> Smitty wrote:
>
>> After 42 years of late Lyme I bought a CS maker from Wish granted.com and
>>>
>>>
>>  it
>>
>>
>>> took me three days to rid myself of Lyme.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Did you have a test to determine if you were rid of Lyme ?
>>
>>
>>
> Do they even have a test that will tell you with any accuracy.  When I had
> Lyme the tests were over 50% unreliable.  False positives AND negatives.
>  They were a total waste of money.
>
> Marshall
>
>
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Re: CS>Testing....

I chugged two pints of purchased CS and then I was making my own so I took
4ozs every 20 minutes for the three days until I awoke in the middle of the
night feeling just great as if a fever had broken or something like that.
I believe the frequency of the treatments made the difference.
Dave

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Day Sutton  wrote:

> How much did you take during the 3 days?
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Dave Darrin  wrote:
>
>> After 42 years of late Lyme I bought a CS maker from Wish granted.com and
>> it took me three days to rid myself of Lyme.
>> I never took any antibiotics as the doctor didn't think I had it.
>> He saw the rash as it kept repeating every few years and the tests came
>> back positive but he said that Lyme isn't a problem in this area . As if I
>> only stayed here. I contacted the disease in Germany in1957. That was before
>> it even had a name. If you have late Lyme you can imagine what I went
>> through in that length of time. That was about 8 years ago and it takes a
>> long time to heal from the damage even after the spirochetes are gone.
>> Dave
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Smitty  wrote:
>>
>>> Dave:
>>> Are you gonna make your OWN CS maker ?
>>>
>>> Smitty
>>>
>>> On 8/19/09, Dave Darrin  wrote:
>>> > Limes is a plural as well as a noun. Why didn't you capitalize lime to
>>> make
>>> > a noun of it. Lime with an apostrophe and an s
>>> > denotes possession -- so what belonged to that Lyme?
>>> > I think any one would extrapolate a small green fruit with the
>>> appearance of
>>> > a small green orange would be a Lime.
>>> >  Dave
>>> > We don't have anything useful to talk about today eh.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Marshall Dudley <
>>> mdud...@king-cart.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> > > Dave Darrin wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > Lyme's are small green oranges. Lyme is the disease.
>>> > > > Dave
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > Hardly. Lyme's is the possessive form of Lyme, as in "Lyme's symptoms
>>> > are".  What are the little green oranges? Are you talking about limes?
>>> > >
>>> > > Marshall
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
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Re: CS>DIY Confidence Test For Liposomal Encapsulation

2009-08-19 Thread Del at Dri-Wash

Ok, I made my first batch of Homemade Liposomal Vitamin C today with mixed 
results. I used the small 50 watt ($25) Harbor Freight U S cleaner, stirred 
frequently and cycled the unit 4 times (12 minutes). Following I poured the 
mixture from the US machine into a large measuring cup. There were quite a few 
undissolved granules of letchin left in the US.

I than proceeded with the test described by Brooks pouring 4 oz. into a 12 oz. 
straight walled drink glass and adding 1 oz. of water with 1/4 teaspoon 
bicarbonate of soda and had between a half inch and 3/4’s inch of foam on top 
the test liposomal. I read this to indicate I had less than 50% encapsulation.

Next go at it I will try warming the water slightly prior to mixing and see if 
that helps at all. For Vitamin C I used Vitamin C Foundation Pharmaceutical 
Powder and for Letchin I used NOW Brand non-GMO Granules.

Anyone else got any pointers?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Brooks Bradley 
  To: Silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 1:54 PM
  Subject: CS>DIY Confidence Test For Liposomal Encapsulation


  Although not scientifically rigorous, I offer a simple test which will yield 
the 
  DIY researcher some element of confidence that they do, in fact, have a 
useful measure of liposomal 
  encapsulate. 
  First, pour about 4 ounces of your finished Vitamin C encapsulate into a 
cylindrical, 12 ounce 
  water glass. Next, place 1/4 teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate into about 1 
ounce of distilled water and stir 
  for 3 to 5 seconds. Next, pour the sodium bicarbonate solution into the 
Vitamin C mixture and stir gently for several seconds. Note: If the 
  foam/bubble line which forms on top is 1/2 inch or less---in height---you 
have about a 50% encapsulation efficiency. If the foam/bubble line is 3/8 of 
one inch...or less, you have about a 60% efficiency. If the 
  foam/bubble line is 1/8 inch or less, you have about 75% efficiency. If the 
foam/bubble line is 
  just a trace.you should major in chemistry. 
  The percentages given above, represent the amount of the total Vitamin C 
component incorporated during the encapsulation process.that was actually 
encapsulated. The less encapsulationthe greater the foaming. 
  What is, actually, occurring in this test is that the ascorbic acid fraction 
is being transformed into the sodium ascorbate form of vitamin C. This test 
does not negatively affect the usefulness of the solution you have 
tested.as the isolated Vitamin C component is not adversely affecting the 
encapsulate (which is being protected by the lecithin bubble-covering.) 
Actually, the sodium ascorbate form of vitamin C is greater than an 
order-of-magnitude more soluble for tissue incorporation..than is the 
ascorbic acid form. 
  In any event this simple test should serve to raise the level of confidence 
in the DIY researcher 
  that they do---in fact---have a useful measure of encapsulated vitamin C. 
  Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. 

  p.s. I had, a few moments ago, just finished a much more extensive 
posting.but some form of invasive 
  advertising spam flashed across the top of my mail system and in attempting 
to circumvent/nullify the invader 
  I lost my entire post. The actual post your are receiving is the product of 
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CS>DMSO carries MW of 1000 daltons or less to bloodstream

2009-08-19 Thread Saralou

Not true, M. Scott.  DMSO can only carry molecules with a smaller 
molecular weigh than appx 1000 daltons.  When in doubt, check the 
molecular weight of the ingredients of whatever you're dealing with.  
Saralou



Adams, M. Scott wrote:
 
Do be aware that DMSO will carry anything it comes in contact with 
into the body. Pesticides, dissolved plastic, nail polish etc are all 
dangerous when used near DMSO. If you are doing it transdermally make 
sure your skin is clean of any toxins!
 
Scott Adams

RE: CS>Adjunctive Protocol for DMSO (TOPICAL) Applications

2009-08-19 Thread Norton, Steve

 Indi,

Actually, this is something I am just getting interested in so I really
don't have anything solid. I was trying to find a report that I remember
seeing last year (or 2 yrs ago?) that showed that taking low doses of
methlene blue was effective against cancer. I haven't yet found that
report but I did run across this report:
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2007SPIE.6427E..11B. I find it interesting
but have not yet found a practical way of using it. One problem is that
it needs oxygen in the tissues to work. A hyperbaric chamber is
impractical for most of us. There are other options to look at such as
ozone, hydrogen peroxide, magnesium peroxide, chlorine dioxide, ...

Also, if you search Earth Clinic, you find that MB may be effective for
Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, fungus, malaria, cyanide poisoning, extreme
weakness, loss of energy, chronic fatigue sysndrome and extreme mental
exhaustion. For those interested in swine flu the following is from the
Earth Clinic:

"07/22/2009: Ted (par...@yahoo.com) from Bangkok, Thailand writes: "...
I have encountered a person who was dying from swine flu, pretty much
the doctors have given up. Tamiflu simply didn't work both as prevention
and in advanced cases of the swine flu, or the 2009 Viruses. The only
thing that has helped this man in ICU was actually the hourly dose for
24 hour of 1000 mg of lysine. For weeks he was on high fever, and the
only thing that can tame his fever was actually the lysine. When he did
get better and body temperature became normal, the lysine dose was
switched to 2000 mg every two hours, since every hour prevented him
having long sleep. Lysine was fed via tube. Ideally the lysine dose can
be spaced much further if there is no increase in any fever. Since this
man was a confirmed H1N1, where it took a week to found out he did have
H1N1, the swine flu ate away about half of his lungs, from excessive
mucus, and the man was not able to breathe on his own, and has to be on
an artificial respirator. As a result, the excessive mucus was
controlled with 4 tablets of chinese herbal supplements ganmaoling
tablets, taken every 4 hours so it may again disturb his sleep schedule.
Within the first hour, there were clear indications of reduced mucus,
and it was this that ate away his lungs. His inability to breathe was
placed on artificial respirator, as a result two more supplements needed
to restore his normal breathing using methylene blue 0.1% taken at 2
drops one in the morning and two drops one in the evening. Since
methylene blue did restore or return his breathing and was taken off the
artificial respirator within the week, the methylene blue caused him to
sleep less as he now has more energy. Therefore the dose was reduced to
one drop in the morning and one drop at 12.00 p.m. Tamiflu was not
helpful both as prevention and when people did have it since some were
on tamiflu.""

Also this report:
http://www.biomedexperts.com/Abstract.bme/14724055/Methylene_blue_improv
es_brain_oxidative_metabolism_and_memory_retention_in_rats

"Together the findings suggest that low-dose MB enhances spatial memory
retention in normal rats by increasing brain cytochrome c oxidase
activity."

And http://learnmem.cshlp.org/content/11/5/633.full:
Extinction Memory Improvement by the Metabolic Enhancer Methylene Blue

And
http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2008/07/31/rember_for_alzheimers_me
thylene_blues_comeback.php
Rember for Alzheimer's: Methylene Blue's Comeback

And this forum
http://www.imminst.org/forum/index.php?s=947f9ef770bf8d58786849b97f52c75
1&showtopic=23947&pid=337485&st=100&#entry337485

So for right now I think it is worth further investigation.

 - Steve

-Original Message-
From: Indi [mailto:indi.sha...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:01 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Adjunctive Protocol for DMSO (TOPICAL) Applications

Hey Steve,

You roused my curiosity so I searched but didn't find much info on
methylene blue other than that it is used to treat aquariums. Can you
point me at some more info?

Thanks,
--
indi

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 02:26:40PM -0500, Norton, Steve wrote:
>What great timing! I have been considering a report that showed
that
>use of IR light with a low dose Methlene Blue is effective against
a
>number of organisms. I have been wondering if you can use a tanning
bed
>along with suntan lotion to filter out UV to treat a large area.
>Would a tanning bed work with this as well?
>- Steve N
>
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RE: CS>Testing....

I have to say I am very skeptical that Chronic Lyme would be cured in that
short a time. My wife is on 12oz a day for the last 5 months. We can say its
in remission, but we don't believe its cured. If even one spirochete is in a
cyst somewhere or a biofilm it can rebound when the body gets stressed.

If you did indeed have Chronic Lyme and got cured that is wonderful. I just
find it hard to believe with all the studying and research I have been doing
on this disease in the last 3 years.

Scott Adams
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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Lyme_Rife/

  _  

From: Dave Darrin [mailto:davedar...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:52 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Testing

After 42 years of late Lyme I bought a CS maker from Wish granted.com and it
took me three days to rid myself of Lyme.
I never took any antibiotics as the doctor didn't think I had it.
He saw the rash as it kept repeating every few years and the tests came back
positive but he said that Lyme isn't a problem in this area . As if I only
stayed here. I contacted the disease in Germany in1957. That was before it
even had a name. If you have late Lyme you can imagine what I went through
in that length of time. That was about 8 years ago and it takes a long time
to heal from the damage even after the spirochetes are gone.
Dave

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Smitty  wrote:

Dave:
Are you gonna make your OWN CS maker ?

Smitty

On 8/19/09, Dave Darrin  wrote:
> Limes is a plural as well as a noun. Why didn't you capitalize lime to
make
> a noun of it. Lime with an apostrophe and an s
> denotes possession -- so what belonged to that Lyme?
> I think any one would extrapolate a small green fruit with the appearance
of
> a small green orange would be a Lime.
>  Dave
> We don't have anything useful to talk about today eh.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Marshall Dudley 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Dave Darrin wrote:
> >
> > > Lyme's are small green oranges. Lyme is the disease.
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >
> > Hardly. Lyme's is the possessive form of Lyme, as in "Lyme's symptoms
> are".  What are the little green oranges? Are you talking about limes?
> >
> > Marshall
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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RE: CS>Homemade CS

I use my R/O's water. I have a TDS meter and check the purity. Its worth the
$75 in the long run to know your water is pure enough.

  _  

From: Del at Dri-Wash [mailto:d...@driwash.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 3:55 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Homemade CS

My dumb questions for the day :-)

Is it possible to make safe and effective collidial silver using high
quality filtered water as opposed to steam generated distilled water?   

If so are any of the home filter units of sufficient quality to allow this?

Thanks,

Del

CS>ultrasound, LET, and lecithin

2009-08-19 Thread Shirley Reed

   My unit arrived today and having made my first batch, I have some
questions.My stuff separated even though I  zapped it 4 times with the
cleaner,and not the 3 recommended.  I figure it was the lecithin.  It is
Lewis Labs, but it has natural coconut and pineapple flavorings added.  Do
you guys think that made the difference?Also, I warmed the cup of water
a bit in order to get the lecithin to dissolve faster.  Was that a
mistake?I am using distilled water so that should be ok.  Do you think
the speed of stirring makes a diff?   I just kinda moved the straw around
-not at a snail's pace, but not rapidly.   Maybe I should just  put it back
in the machine and zap it some more??   Thanks for any ideas.  This could
really be a great thing for us.  Thanks again Mr. B !!pj

Re: CS>Testing....


Smitty wrote:

After 42 years of late Lyme I bought a CS maker from Wish granted.com and


 it
  

took me three days to rid myself of Lyme.



Did you have a test to determine if you were rid of Lyme ?

  
Do they even have a test that will tell you with any accuracy.  When I 
had Lyme the tests were over 50% unreliable.  False positives AND 
negatives.  They were a total waste of money.


Marshall


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Re: CS>Testing....

2009-08-19 Thread Day Sutton

How much did you take during the 3 days?

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Dave Darrin  wrote:

> After 42 years of late Lyme I bought a CS maker from Wish granted.com and
> it took me three days to rid myself of Lyme.
> I never took any antibiotics as the doctor didn't think I had it.
> He saw the rash as it kept repeating every few years and the tests came
> back positive but he said that Lyme isn't a problem in this area . As if I
> only stayed here. I contacted the disease in Germany in1957. That was before
> it even had a name. If you have late Lyme you can imagine what I went
> through in that length of time. That was about 8 years ago and it takes a
> long time to heal from the damage even after the spirochetes are gone.
> Dave
>
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Smitty  wrote:
>
>> Dave:
>> Are you gonna make your OWN CS maker ?
>>
>> Smitty
>>
>> On 8/19/09, Dave Darrin  wrote:
>> > Limes is a plural as well as a noun. Why didn't you capitalize lime to
>> make
>> > a noun of it. Lime with an apostrophe and an s
>> > denotes possession -- so what belonged to that Lyme?
>> > I think any one would extrapolate a small green fruit with the
>> appearance of
>> > a small green orange would be a Lime.
>> >  Dave
>> > We don't have anything useful to talk about today eh.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Marshall Dudley > >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Dave Darrin wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Lyme's are small green oranges. Lyme is the disease.
>> > > > Dave
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > Hardly. Lyme's is the possessive form of Lyme, as in "Lyme's symptoms
>> > are".  What are the little green oranges? Are you talking about limes?
>> > >
>> > > Marshall
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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RE: CS>Information on rebounding for Emphysema

2009-08-19 Thread Dianne France

try http://askwaltstollmd.com and then follow links.  I think there must be a 
space or something causing the problem.  

Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:13:00 -0600
From: gooogleis...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Information on rebounding for Emphysema

Hello all,

http://askwaltstollmd.com/body_rebounding.html

In an earlier posting, this link was offered for information on the above.  It 
is a broken link.  Does anyone know how to get the original info?  

Thank you for your attention,

Jim 

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Re: CS>Homemade CS

2009-08-19 Thread Del at Dri-Wash

My dumb questions for the day :-)

Is it possible to make safe and effective collidial silver using high quality 
filtered water as opposed to steam generated distilled water?   

If so are any of the home filter units of sufficient quality to allow this?

Thanks,

Del

Re: CS>Adjunctive Protocol for DMSO (TOPICAL) Applications

2009-08-19 Thread dingyung49

I am interested.  What are the good Red LED sources with reasonable price?  Any 
body?   I have both CS/DMSO.  Thanks.  Helen

From: Pat 
Subject: Re: CS>Adjunctive Protocol for DMSO (TOPICAL) Applications
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 1:34 PM

Do you mean to use a laser light like one we might use to check the CS?  Just 
an ordinary red one?  How close would you hold it to the skin?  Do you move it 
back and forth over the area or just pick the most painful point and hold it 
there for several minutes?  I would have thought it would burn a hole through 
the skin.

Pat

From: Brooks Bradley 
To: Silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:58:22 PM
Subject: CS>Adjunctive Protocol for DMSO (TOPICAL) Applications

Disclaimer: Please understand that ALL information posted by me...or any staff 
memberis for RESEARCH PURPOSES ONLY and in NO WAY constitutes medical 
advice or prescription. 
Although this comment addresses, mostly, various posts relating to DMSO uses 
during the immediate several days past, I believe this information to be worthy 
of consideration. 
Several years ago we discovered that the application of laser light, or 
high-power LED lightfurnished an excellent "multiplying effect" for topical 
applications of DMSO. The primary influence came from a simple, but powerful, 
increase in local-area circulation. We were able to decrease swelling 
presentations and attendant pain, 
sometimes by 100%.via the simple expedient of furnishing exposure of the 
afflicted area to this form of light. Even the cheapest Laser pointer yielded 
measurable, rapid, response. 
The most effective results came when the coherent light source was concentrated 
directly 
at the center of the pain field. While extended exposures (15 to 20 minutes) 
did yield the greatest relief.even 5 minutes exposure measurably 
accelerated the pain mitigation 
generated. While this combination protocol has been, previously, discussed on 
the listit has been some time and many newer members may not be aware of 
the value---andsafety.of this simple modifier. 
Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. 
p.s. One interesting finding, during our general investigations, was that 
either low Level Laser or high-power (3500 mcd and up) LED sources, when aimed 
directly on areas presenting infections presenting in the upper throat 
(especially those fulminating and/or marked by pustule presences).responded 
in a majority of cases, with RAPID, sometimes SPECTACULAR 
IMPROVEMENT-without support from ANY OTHER protocol. However, when used in 
conjunction with 20% DMSO (BY VOLUME) AND 80% (BY VOLUME) 10 to 15 ppm 
Colloidal Silver, 
we were able to negate the effects of VERY CHALLENGING MRSA insults.in 90% 
of our test evaluations. 
The DMSO x CS solution was applied via a simple spray bottle and followed, 
immediately, with exposure to the concentrated light source. 
Be advised: 20% solutions of DMSO sprayed on the epithelial tissues in the 
upper throat may---in some cases---cause an involuntary gag-reflex to manifest. 
While not dangerous, this condition is, sometimes, upsetting to susceptible 
individuals. If the experimental subject suffers from this hyper-sensitivity 
type gag-reflex.just lower the DMSO component to 10%for an acceptable 
resolution. For applications addressing EXTERNAL 
areas of the body, light sensitivities do not, normally, present the 
exposure-time 
considerations.as do those involving the interior surfaces (epithelial) of 
the body. 

5 
CAUTION: Do note that extended exposure to non-filtered, high-energy light in 
this part if the spectrum can result in discomforting form of surface-tissue 
blistering. Therefore, exposure beyond 5 minutes at a single session is not 
recommended for researchers. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for 
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Re: CS>Adjunctive Protocol for DMSO (TOPICAL) Applications

2009-08-19 Thread Pat

Do you mean to use a laser light like one we might use to check the CS?  Just 
an ordinary red one?  How close would you hold it to the skin?  Do you move it 
back and forth over the area or just pick the most painful point and hold it 
there for several minutes?  I would have thought it would burn a hole through 
the skin.

Pat





From: Brooks Bradley 
To: Silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:58:22 PM
Subject: CS>Adjunctive Protocol for DMSO (TOPICAL) Applications

 Disclaimer:  Please understand that ALL information posted by me...or any 
staff memberis for RESEARCH PURPOSES ONLY and in NO WAY constitutes medical 
advice or prescription. 
Although this comment addresses, mostly, various posts relating to DMSO uses  
during the immediate  several days past, I believe this information to be  
worthy of consideration. 
Several years ago we discovered that the application of laser light, or 
high-power LED lightfurnished an excellent "multiplying effect" for topical 
applications of DMSO.  The primary influence came from a simple, but powerful, 
increase in  local-area circulation.  We were able to decrease swelling 
presentations and attendant pain, 
sometimes by 100%.via the simple expedient of furnishing exposure of the 
afflicted area to this form of light.  Even the cheapest Laser pointer yielded 
measurable, rapid, response. 
The most effective results came when the coherent light source was concentrated 
directly 
at the center of the pain field.  While extended exposures (15 to 20 minutes) 
did yield the greatest relief.even 5 minutes exposure measurably 
accelerated the pain mitigation 
generated.  While this combination protocol has been, previously, discussed on 
the listit has been some time and many newer members may not be aware of 
the value---andsafety.of this simple modifier. 
Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley. 
p.s.  One interesting finding, during our general investigations, was that 
either low Level Laser or high-power (3500 mcd and up) LED sources, when aimed 
directly on areas presenting infections presenting in the upper throat 
(especially those fulminating and/or marked by pustule presences).responded 
in a majority of cases, with RAPID, sometimes SPECTACULAR 
IMPROVEMENT-without support from ANY OTHER protocol.  However, when used in 
conjunction with 20% DMSO (BY VOLUME) AND 80% (BY VOLUME) 10 to 15 ppm 
Colloidal Silver, 
we were able to negate the effects of VERY CHALLENGING MRSA insults.in 90% 
of our test evaluations. 
The DMSO x CS solution was applied via a simple spray bottle and followed, 
immediately, with exposure to the concentrated light source. 
Be advised:  20% solutions of DMSO sprayed on the epithelial tissues in the 
upper throat may---in some cases---cause an involuntary gag-reflex to manifest. 
 While not dangerous, this condition is, sometimes, upsetting to susceptible 
individuals.  If the experimental subject suffers from this hyper-sensitivity 
type gag-reflex.just lower the DMSO component to 10%for an acceptable 
resolution.  For applications addressing EXTERNAL 
areas of the body, light sensitivities do not, normally, present the 
exposure-time 
considerations.as do those involving the interior surfaces (epithelial) of 
the body. 













5 
CAUTION: Do note that extended exposure to non-filtered, high-energy light in 
this part if the spectrum can result in discomforting  form of surface-tissue 
blistering.  Therefore, exposure beyond 5 minutes at a single session is not 
recommended for researchers.   --
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Re: CS>Testing....

2009-08-19 Thread Smitty

> After 42 years of late Lyme I bought a CS maker from Wish granted.com and it
> took me three days to rid myself of Lyme.

Did you have a test to determine if you were rid of Lyme ?

Smitty


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CS>Fw: Tiptoe / Rebounding : COMMENTARY

2009-08-19 Thread Ruth Bertella

Another post regarding a Rebounding "alternative" (in the second post down), 
also from Brooks:

- Original Message - 
From: Brooks Bradley 
To: Silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:43 AM
Subject: [FW]CS>Brooks tiptoe rebounding :COMMENTARY

This is in address to recent comments about my original posting on the effects 
of rebounding.an investigation stimulated by Dr. Walt Stoll. Although this 
is not 
my original post, I believe it contains useful information to parties 
interested in this type of non-invasive address to a number of challenging 
insults. 
This protocol was VERY effective for alleviating a consequential number of 
chronic cardiovascular insults.and did so without manifesting ANY untoward 
complications or 
systemic compromises. 
Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. 

  --- Forwarded message follows --- 

  Date forwarded: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 07:23:21 -0800 

  From: "Brooks Bradley" 

  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

  Date sent: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:23:05 -0500 

  Forwarded by: silver-list@eskimo.com 

  Send reply to: silver-list@eskimo.com 

  Subject: CS>Protocol Comment 

  About two years ago, primarily stimulated by comments from Dr. Walter Stoll, 
we 

  investigated the possible benefits of utilizing a portable rebounder for 
ameliorating the 

  insulting effects of emphysema. In addition to 

  measurable effective response for emphysema, we found beneficial effects for 
a number of 

  other afflictions.especially among the geriatric population. 

  Rebounding proved to be, for us, the safest, least invasive, and most 
pleasant 

  means for accomplishing address to diminishing emphysema's effects.as 
well 

  as a consequential number of less threateningbut discomforting 
cardio-vascular and 

  articulating-joint challenges. Even the lower-cost rebounders gave quite 
acceptable 

  results.even when the volunteer was so compromised they were only able to 
sit on the 

  edge and gently bounce the upper half of the torso. 

  Nowfor the principal reason for this post. Quite 

  serendipitously, we discovered a useful alternative for "rebounding"and 
one which does 

  not require any adjunctive equipment. This simple technique has proved so 
beneficial...for 

  methat I no longer use my rebounderas a frequent modality. This 
technique involves 

  nothing more than selecting a convenient doorwaysecuring the hands to the 
upper door- 

  face molding for supportand elevating the body via "tip-toeing"that 
is, raising to the balls 

  of the feet. One can do this as fast...or as slowly...as is convenient for 
them to do so. The 

  faster and more completely one releases...the more the internal physiology is 

  stimulated.simply as a result of the inertial forces generated when the 
heels strike the 

  floor. 

  This simple exercise has benefited me enormously over the past 18 months. 

  As one becomes more proficient, you may choose to drop and relax each arm 
(alternately 

  every 30 seconds) and will experience a rather pronounced "rebound effect" in 
the 

  chest/breast area. This, particular, exercise has aided me 

  in sleeping better, toning my cardio-vascular system (especially venous 
stasis challenges in 

  the lower extremities), while saving me considerable time and expense as a 
result of my no 

  longer going to the gymnasium three times weekly for a workout, which is 
certainly more 

  encompassingbut not all that more beneficial (at least in my eyes). 

  At present, my personal regimen involves 200 fairly rapid elevations (or 
more) until the 

  calves of the legs start to "ache" slightly. 

  This aching-onset is a reliable indicator of when one should stopunless 
they are a younger 

  athlete and are working on endurance parameters. When I started, I did 25 
elevations the 

  first day and rapidly advanced to about 200 within 5 daysand have 
remained there ever 

  since. I do this exercise twice daily (upon arising in the morning and just 
before bed-time). 

  While I am in "better-than-average" physical condition for my chronological 
age, and can--- 

  actually---do 400 continuous elevations, I find my present program yields 
quite adequate 

  results. 

  My enthusiasm for this simple technique is quite pronounced, 

  and so is that of my immediate friends who have chosen to adopt it. 

  It certainly is convenient, effective, TIME-SAVING.and ECONOMICAL. 

  My apologies for such a lengthy post. 

  Sincerely, Brooks Bradley.

Re: CS>Adjunctive Protocol for DMSO (TOPICAL) Applications

2009-08-19 Thread Indi

Hey Steve,

You roused my curiosity so I searched but didn't find much info on methylene 
blue other than that it is used to treat aquariums. Can you point me at some
more info?

Thanks,
-- 
indi


On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 02:26:40PM -0500, Norton, Steve wrote:
>What great timing! I have been considering a report that showed that
>use of IR light with a low dose Methlene Blue is effective against a
>number of organisms. I have been wondering if you can use a tanning bed
>along with suntan lotion to filter out UV to treat a large area.
>Would a tanning bed work with this as well?
>- Steve N
>___
> 
>From: Brooks Bradley 
>To: Silver-list@eskimo.com 
>Sent: Wed Aug 19 13:58:22 2009
>Subject: CS>Adjunctive Protocol for DMSO (TOPICAL) Applications
> 
>Disclaimer: Please understand that ALL information posted by me...or
>any staff memberis for RESEARCH PURPOSES ONLY and in NO WAY
>constitutes medical advice or prescription.
>Although this comment addresses, mostly, various posts relating to DMSO
>uses during the immediate several days past, I believe this information
>to be worthy of consideration.
>Several years ago we discovered that the application of laser light, or
>high-power LED lightfurnished an excellent "multiplying effect" for
>topical applications of DMSO. The primary influence came from a simple,
>but powerful, increase in local-area circulation. We were able to
>decrease swelling presentations and attendant pain,
>sometimes by 100%.via the simple expedient of furnishing exposure
>of the afflicted area to this form of light. Even the cheapest Laser
>pointer yielded measurable, rapid, response.
>The most effective results came when the coherent light source was
>concentrated directly
>at the center of the pain field. While extended exposures (15 to 20
>minutes) did yield the greatest relief.even 5 minutes exposure
>measurably accelerated the pain mitigation
>generated. While this combination protocol has been, previously,
>discussed on the listit has been some time and many newer members
>may not be aware of the value---andsafety.of this simple
>modifier.
>Sincerely, Brooks Bradley.
>p.s. One interesting finding, during our general investigations, was
>that either low Level Laser or high-power (3500 mcd and up) LED
>sources, when aimed directly on areas presenting infections presenting
>in the upper throat (especially those fulminating and/or marked by
>pustule presences).responded in a majority of cases, with RAPID,
>sometimes SPECTACULAR IMPROVEMENT-without support from ANY OTHER
>protocol. However, when used in conjunction with 20% DMSO (BY VOLUME)
>AND 80% (BY VOLUME) 10 to 15 ppm Colloidal Silver,
>we were able to negate the effects of VERY CHALLENGING MRSA
>insults.in 90% of our test evaluations.
>The DMSO x CS solution was applied via a simple spray bottle and
>followed, immediately, with exposure to the concentrated light source.
>Be advised: 20% solutions of DMSO sprayed on the epithelial tissues in
>the upper throat may---in some cases---cause an involuntary gag-reflex
>to manifest. While not dangerous, this condition is, sometimes,
>upsetting to susceptible individuals. If the experimental subject
>suffers from this hyper-sensitivity type gag-reflex.just lower the
>DMSO component to 10%for an acceptable resolution. For applications
>addressing EXTERNAL
>areas of the body, light sensitivities do not, normally, present the
>exposure-time
>considerations.as do those involving the interior surfaces
>(epithelial) of the body.
>5
>CAUTION: Do note that extended exposure to non-filtered, high-energy
>light in this part if the spectrum can result in discomforting form of
>surface-tissue blistering. Therefore, exposure beyond 5 minutes at a
>single session is not recommended for researchers. -- The Silver List
>is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for
>unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address
>your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to:
>silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List
>archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour

-- 
indi


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Re: CS>Information on rebounding for Emphysema

2009-08-19 Thread gooogleiscia

Very kind and helpful. Thank you Ruth. 

Jim
Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel

-Original Message-
From: "Ruth Bertella" 

Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:39:39 
To: 
Subject: Re: CS>Information on rebounding for Emphysema

try this:  http://www.askwaltstollmd.com/articles/rebounding.php 

not sure it is exactly it, but I went to www.askwaltstollmd.com  to search, and 
clicked on 'Articles on Health' link, then clicked the link to 'Emphysema and 
Rebounding'.

Hope this helps!
Ruth
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim Holmes 
  To: Silver-List 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:13 PM
  Subject: CS>Information on rebounding for Emphysema

  Hello all,

  http://askwaltstollmd.com/body_rebounding.html

  In an earlier posting, this link was offered for information on the above.  
It is a broken link.  Does anyone know how to get the original info?  

  Thank you for your attention,

  Jim

Re: CS>Testing....

After 42 years of late Lyme I bought a CS maker from Wish granted.com and it
took me three days to rid myself of Lyme.
I never took any antibiotics as the doctor didn't think I had it.
He saw the rash as it kept repeating every few years and the tests came back
positive but he said that Lyme isn't a problem in this area . As if I only
stayed here. I contacted the disease in Germany in1957. That was before it
even had a name. If you have late Lyme you can imagine what I went through
in that length of time. That was about 8 years ago and it takes a long time
to heal from the damage even after the spirochetes are gone.
Dave

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Smitty  wrote:

> Dave:
> Are you gonna make your OWN CS maker ?
>
> Smitty
>
> On 8/19/09, Dave Darrin  wrote:
> > Limes is a plural as well as a noun. Why didn't you capitalize lime to
> make
> > a noun of it. Lime with an apostrophe and an s
> > denotes possession -- so what belonged to that Lyme?
> > I think any one would extrapolate a small green fruit with the appearance
> of
> > a small green orange would be a Lime.
> >  Dave
> > We don't have anything useful to talk about today eh.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Marshall Dudley 
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Dave Darrin wrote:
> > >
> > > > Lyme's are small green oranges. Lyme is the disease.
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Hardly. Lyme's is the possessive form of Lyme, as in "Lyme's symptoms
> > are".  What are the little green oranges? Are you talking about limes?
> > >
> > > Marshall
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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>
>

Re: CS>Adjunctive Protocol for DMSO (TOPICAL) Applications

2009-08-19 Thread Indi

Thank you Brooks.
As always, a most informative post.

-- 
indi

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 02:58:22PM -0400, Brooks Bradley wrote:
>Disclaimer: Please understand that ALL information posted by me...or
>any staff memberis for RESEARCH PURPOSES ONLY and in NO WAY
>constitutes medical advice or prescription.
>Although this comment addresses, mostly, various posts relating to DMSO
>uses during the immediate several days past, I believe this information
>to be worthy of consideration.
>Several years ago we discovered that the application of laser light, or
>high-power LED lightfurnished an excellent "multiplying effect" for
>topical applications of DMSO. The primary influence came from a simple,
>but powerful, increase in local-area circulation. We were able to
>decrease swelling presentations and attendant pain,
>sometimes by 100%.via the simple expedient of furnishing exposure
>of the afflicted area to this form of light. Even the cheapest Laser
>pointer yielded measurable, rapid, response.
>The most effective results came when the coherent light source was
>concentrated directly
>at the center of the pain field. While extended exposures (15 to 20
>minutes) did yield the greatest relief.even 5 minutes exposure
>measurably accelerated the pain mitigation
>generated. While this combination protocol has been, previously,
>discussed on the listit has been some time and many newer members
>may not be aware of the value---andsafety.of this simple
>modifier.
>Sincerely, Brooks Bradley.
>p.s. One interesting finding, during our general investigations, was
>that either low Level Laser or high-power (3500 mcd and up) LED
>sources, when aimed directly on areas presenting infections presenting
>in the upper throat (especially those fulminating and/or marked by
>pustule presences).responded in a majority of cases, with RAPID,
>sometimes SPECTACULAR IMPROVEMENT-without support from ANY OTHER
>protocol. However, when used in conjunction with 20% DMSO (BY VOLUME)
>AND 80% (BY VOLUME) 10 to 15 ppm Colloidal Silver,
>we were able to negate the effects of VERY CHALLENGING MRSA
>insults.in 90% of our test evaluations.
>The DMSO x CS solution was applied via a simple spray bottle and
>followed, immediately, with exposure to the concentrated light source.
>Be advised: 20% solutions of DMSO sprayed on the epithelial tissues in
>the upper throat may---in some cases---cause an involuntary gag-reflex
>to manifest. While not dangerous, this condition is, sometimes,
>upsetting to susceptible individuals. If the experimental subject
>suffers from this hyper-sensitivity type gag-reflex.just lower the
>DMSO component to 10%for an acceptable resolution. For applications
>addressing EXTERNAL
>areas of the body, light sensitivities do not, normally, present the
>exposure-time
>considerations.as do those involving the interior surfaces
>(epithelial) of the body.
>5
>CAUTION: Do note that extended exposure to non-filtered, high-energy
>light in this part if the spectrum can result in discomforting form of
>surface-tissue blistering. Therefore, exposure beyond 5 minutes at a
>single session is not recommended for researchers. -- The Silver List
>is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for
>unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address
>your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to:
>silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List
>archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour

-- 
indi


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Re: CS>Information on rebounding for Emphysema

2009-08-19 Thread Colin Quinney

Dead links can often be retrieved from the Internet Archive: 
http://www.archive.org/index.php
WE just paste the dead link into the Wayback Machine box.
Sometimes it works. Sometimes only partially or sometimes not at all, and 
sometimes it seems to be 'out-to-lunch'.   In this case however it seemed to 
work exceedingly well: 

or..  http://tinyurl.com/l7c3tr

See? I did all that work, and then I thought I should check to see it Dr Stoll 
just moved the link. So I found Dr Stoll's own archives: 
http://askwaltstollmd.com/archives/emphysema.html

and there it was !  November 03, 2004 - rebounding for emphysema (3) 

Colin  :-))
- Original Message - 
  From: Jim Holmes 
  To: Silver-List 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 3:13 PM
  Subject: CS>Information on rebounding for Emphysema


  Hello all,

  http://askwaltstollmd.com/body_rebounding.html

  In an earlier posting, this link was offered for information on the above.  
It is a broken link.  Does anyone know how to get the original info?  

  Thank you for your attention,

  Jim 



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Re: CS>Information on rebounding for Emphysema

2009-08-19 Thread Ruth Bertella

try this:  http://www.askwaltstollmd.com/articles/rebounding.php 

not sure it is exactly it, but I went to www.askwaltstollmd.com  to search, and 
clicked on 'Articles on Health' link, then clicked the link to 'Emphysema and 
Rebounding'.

Hope this helps!
Ruth
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim Holmes 
  To: Silver-List 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:13 PM
  Subject: CS>Information on rebounding for Emphysema


  Hello all,

  http://askwaltstollmd.com/body_rebounding.html

  In an earlier posting, this link was offered for information on the above.  
It is a broken link.  Does anyone know how to get the original info?  

  Thank you for your attention,

  Jim

Re: CS>Adjunctive Protocol for DMSO (TOPICAL) Applications

2009-08-19 Thread Norton, Steve

What great timing! I have been considering a report that showed that use of IR 
light with a low dose Methlene Blue is effective against a number of organisms. 
I have been wondering if you can use a tanning bed along with suntan lotion to 
filter out UV to treat a large area. 
Would a tanning bed work with this as well?
- Steve N



From: Brooks Bradley  
To: Silver-list@eskimo.com  
Sent: Wed Aug 19 13:58:22 2009
Subject: CS>Adjunctive Protocol for DMSO (TOPICAL) Applications 


Disclaimer: Please understand that ALL information posted by me...or any staff 
memberis for RESEARCH PURPOSES ONLY and in NO WAY constitutes medical 
advice or prescription. 
Although this comment addresses, mostly, various posts relating to DMSO uses 
during the immediate several days past, I believe this information to be worthy 
of consideration. 
Several years ago we discovered that the application of laser light, or 
high-power LED lightfurnished an excellent "multiplying effect" for topical 
applications of DMSO. The primary influence came from a simple, but powerful, 
increase in local-area circulation. We were able to decrease swelling 
presentations and attendant pain, 
sometimes by 100%.via the simple expedient of furnishing exposure of the 
afflicted area to this form of light. Even the cheapest Laser pointer yielded 
measurable, rapid, response. 
The most effective results came when the coherent light source was concentrated 
directly 
at the center of the pain field. While extended exposures (15 to 20 minutes) 
did yield the greatest relief.even 5 minutes exposure measurably 
accelerated the pain mitigation 
generated. While this combination protocol has been, previously, discussed on 
the listit has been some time and many newer members may not be aware of 
the value---andsafety.of this simple modifier. 
Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. 
p.s. One interesting finding, during our general investigations, was that 
either low Level Laser or high-power (3500 mcd and up) LED sources, when aimed 
directly on areas presenting infections presenting in the upper throat 
(especially those fulminating and/or marked by pustule presences).responded 
in a majority of cases, with RAPID, sometimes SPECTACULAR 
IMPROVEMENT-without support from ANY OTHER protocol. However, when used in 
conjunction with 20% DMSO (BY VOLUME) AND 80% (BY VOLUME) 10 to 15 ppm 
Colloidal Silver, 
we were able to negate the effects of VERY CHALLENGING MRSA insults.in 90% 
of our test evaluations. 
The DMSO x CS solution was applied via a simple spray bottle and followed, 
immediately, with exposure to the concentrated light source. 
Be advised: 20% solutions of DMSO sprayed on the epithelial tissues in the 
upper throat may---in some cases---cause an involuntary gag-reflex to manifest. 
While not dangerous, this condition is, sometimes, upsetting to susceptible 
individuals. If the experimental subject suffers from this hyper-sensitivity 
type gag-reflex.just lower the DMSO component to 10%for an acceptable 
resolution. For applications addressing EXTERNAL 
areas of the body, light sensitivities do not, normally, present the 
exposure-time 
considerations.as do those involving the interior surfaces (epithelial) of 
the body. 













5 
CAUTION: Do note that extended exposure to non-filtered, high-energy light in 
this part if the spectrum can result in discomforting form of surface-tissue 
blistering. Therefore, exposure beyond 5 minutes at a single session is not 
recommended for researchers. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for 
discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: 
http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List 
and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour

Re: CS>Which silver generator to buy?

there are some generator makers on the list who all make good machines  
(and are very modest!)  I've got a SilverPuppy which is brilliant,  
cheap and easy to use.  There is the Silver Gen too which Trem makes I  
believe, which is also brilliant.  dee


On 19 Aug 2009, at 16:13, scvpropert...@aol.com wrote:

Just wondering which silver generators people have had success with.  
Which are the most economical, safest, provide the best quality  
colloidal silver? Is there any reason at all to buy the expensive  
premade silver product?


Thanks!

Linda

CS>Information on rebounding for Emphysema

2009-08-19 Thread Jim Holmes

Hello all,

http://askwaltstollmd.com/body_rebounding.html

In an earlier posting, this link was offered for information on the above.
It is a broken link.  Does anyone know how to get the original info?

Thank you for your attention,

Jim

Re: CS>Testing....

2009-08-19 Thread Smitty

Dave:
Are you gonna make your OWN CS maker ?

Smitty

On 8/19/09, Dave Darrin  wrote:
> Limes is a plural as well as a noun. Why didn't you capitalize lime to make
> a noun of it. Lime with an apostrophe and an s
> denotes possession -- so what belonged to that Lyme?
> I think any one would extrapolate a small green fruit with the appearance of
> a small green orange would be a Lime.
>  Dave
> We don't have anything useful to talk about today eh.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Marshall Dudley 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Dave Darrin wrote:
> >
> > > Lyme's are small green oranges. Lyme is the disease.
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >
> > Hardly. Lyme's is the possessive form of Lyme, as in "Lyme's symptoms
> are".  What are the little green oranges? Are you talking about limes?
> >
> > Marshall
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: CS>DMSO / Low Odor

2009-08-19 Thread Peter Converse

Hi Dianne,

When I got pneumonia related to a flu last spring I began using a lot of 
different remedies with some semblence of division and order, trying to 
understand which one was doing the most for me. 

Orally consumed CS on its own helped a fair amount more than most things but it 
wasn't until I used the nebulizer that I really turned the corner and began 
progressing rapidly.

Next time I get a serious bug like that one I plan on drinking CS and 
nebulizing right from the start to nip things in the bud.

To make things even more interesting though, the DIY lyposomic vitamin C could 
be another possible avenue which may prevent infections from even getting a 
foothold in the first place. I can't wait to try this stuff out!

Blessings,

Peter

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dianne France 
  To: silver-list 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:10 PM
  Subject: RE: CS>DMSO / Low Odor


  I was extremely sick over the winter.  When I started getting sick enough 
they wanted to put me in the hospital they said the last try would be steroid 
shots and oral steroids.  They didn't do anything for me so the third day I 
took DMSO orally.  Not a lot but 1 tbsp in grape juice to hide the taste.  
Within the day everything starting breaking loose in my lungs and chest and 
coming up.  Everything was green from infection.  Within a couple days I felt 
fairly good and I had been battling this for three months. I think the DMSO got 
the meds I had taken into the areas where they needed to be to fight the bug.
   
  I had tried CS during this time but don't think I was taking enough.  I 
should have bought a nebulizer and used it that way.  It's on my list of things 
to get.
   
  Dianne

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  Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:15:17 -0700
  From: pattycake29...@yahoo.com
  Subject: Re: CS>DMSO / Low Odor
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com


  Dianne, how did you use DMSO for the flu?

Pat




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  From: Dianne France 
  To: silver-list 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 5:12:20 PM
  Subject: RE: CS>DMSO / Low Odor

  Pat
   
  When I've used DMSO personally I have an odor for a little while.  It doesn't 
seem to matter if it's orally or topically.  Someone on a list suggested 
putting the cheap DMSO in the frig.  The DMSO will freeze and you can pour off 
any liquids and make it more pure.  I haven't tried that yet.  
   
  My wonder is if those that do exibit more odor may have more toxins in their 
system.  That is totally guessing.  I have tested positive for heavy metals and 
am detoxing.  When I got the flu back first of the year nothing worked for me 
until I grabbed the DMSO.  It broke everything loose.
   
  Dianne
   

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CS>Adjunctive Protocol for DMSO (TOPICAL) Applications

2009-08-19 Thread Brooks Bradley

Disclaimer: Please understand that ALL information posted by me...or any staff memberis for RESEARCH PURPOSES ONLY and in NO WAY constitutes medical advice or prescription.
Although this comment addresses, mostly, various posts relating to DMSO uses during the immediate several days past, I believe this information to be worthy of consideration.
Several years ago we discovered that the application of laser light, or high-power LED lightfurnished an excellent "multiplying effect" for topical applications of DMSO. The primary influence came from a simple, but powerful, increase in local-area circulation. We were able to decrease swelling presentations and attendant pain,
sometimes by 100%.via the simple expedient of furnishing exposure of the afflicted area to this form of light. Even the cheapest Laser pointer yielded measurable, rapid, response.
The most effective results came when the coherent light source was concentrated directly
at the center of the pain field. While extended exposures (15 to 20 minutes) did yield the greatest relief.even 5 minutes exposure measurably accelerated the pain mitigation
generated. While this combination protocol has been, previously, discussed on the listit has been some time and many newer members may not be aware of the value---andsafety.of this simple modifier.
Sincerely, Brooks Bradley.
p.s. One interesting finding, during our general investigations, was that either low Level Laser or high-power (3500 mcd and up) LED sources, when aimed directly on areas presenting infections presenting in the upper throat (especially those fulminating and/or marked by pustule presences).responded in a majority of cases, with RAPID, sometimes SPECTACULAR IMPROVEMENT-without support from ANY OTHER protocol. However, when used in conjunction with 20% DMSO (BY VOLUME) AND 80% (BY VOLUME) 10 to 15 ppm Colloidal Silver,
we were able to negate the effects of VERY CHALLENGING MRSA insults.in 90% of our test evaluations.
The DMSO x CS solution was applied via a simple spray bottle and followed, immediately, with exposure to the concentrated light source.
Be advised: 20% solutions of DMSO sprayed on the epithelial tissues in the upper throat may---in some cases---cause an involuntary gag-reflex to manifest. While not dangerous, this condition is, sometimes, upsetting to susceptible individuals. If the experimental subject suffers from this hyper-sensitivity type gag-reflex.just lower the DMSO component to 10%for an acceptable resolution. For applications addressing EXTERNAL
areas of the body, light sensitivities do not, normally, present the exposure-time
considerations.as do those involving the interior surfaces (epithelial) of the body.

5
CAUTION: Do note that extended exposure to non-filtered, high-energy light in this part if the spectrum can result in discomforting form of surface-tissue blistering. Therefore, exposure beyond 5 minutes at a single session is not recommended for researchers.

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Re: CS>Cat Won't Gain weight

I really don't know. I have the pure white stuff, I ordered it on the 
net.  it is called "Perma-Guard grain or seed storage insectacide".  For 
fleas, put the d.e. into the rug and bedding, where it will kill the 
flea larvae.


Marshall

Fuzzmom wrote:
Marshall yo reocmmend d.e. I currently do use it..but it's not the 
pure white type..I ca't get it locally. It's called red lake earth 
with a clay addative. Is the pure de the white stuff more 
effective..better..safer? I coat their big bowl of dry food with 
de..sort of shake it up..I also de/ify any canned food I give them 
including tuna. didn't know about external use and fleas are lousy as 
we've had wees of rain and a hundred plus dgs outside.
- Original Message - From: "Marshall Dudley" 


To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Cat Won't Gain weight



Fuzzmom wrote:

Hi..thanks to everyone who gave me advice on my finger..it's doing a
lot better. Now I have a Really serious problem..he's a 5 or so month
old kitten i jsut tookij. He's  a great little meowy but he won't gain
weight..in fact he seems to be losing. I don't have money for the
vet..the pound..well you know wha they'll do..can cs help? He was
eating a little with tuna now he's not even doing that. I don't know
what's wrong..I thought worms but he doesn't have the big round tummmy
you see with them a lot of times. Could he be annemic? he eats but
doesn't seem tobe absorbing..pllease help! and he is afraid and fights
if you try to use a syringe..he bit one in 2. Please any advice would
be great..including what people might have used..and any silver dosage
or flavoring tips to make medicating him easier. Or is silve not what
he needs? I just want t o help him. Thanks.

Hard to say without tests.  But you can try the following:

1. Colloidal Silver for viruses and bacteria infections. Keep the water
bowl filled with pure CS.
2. diatomaceous earth internally for worms and other parasites
3. diatomaceous earth externally, flea baths for fleas.

Marshall


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RE: CS>Which silver generator to buy?

2009-08-19 Thread Dianne France

I've bought two silverpuppies, great machine.

Dianne 

Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:15:45 -0400
Subject: Re: CS>Which silver generator to buy?
From: one...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Hi Linda.

Go to www.silverpuppy.com/

AUTOMATIC CURRENT CONTROLLED COLLOIDAL SILVER GENERATORS system for $145.00 
free shipping. 
Or the pocket puppy for $75.00

Ive bought 3 of them, one for me and 2 for my sisters.

Sam

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:13 AM,  wrote:

Just wondering which silver generators people have had success with. Which are 
the most economical, safest, provide the best quality colloidal silver? Is 
there any reason at all to buy the expensive premade silver product?

Thanks!

Linda

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Re: CS>Which silver generator to buy?

2009-08-19 Thread Sam L.

Hi Linda.
Go to www.silverpuppy.com/
AUTOMATIC CURRENT CONTROLLED COLLOIDAL SILVER GENERATORS system for $145.00
free shipping.
Or the pocket puppy for $75.00
Ive bought 3 of them, one for me and 2 for my sisters.
Sam

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:13 AM,  wrote:

> Just wondering which silver generators people have had success with. Which
> are the most economical, safest, provide the best quality colloidal silver?
> Is there any reason at all to buy the expensive premade silver product?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Linda
>

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take
everything you have.

RE: CS>Cat Won't Gain weight

Ok sounds like a generic ionic CS. Probably can't hurt to try at this point.
I really suspect parasites though. Maybe a tape worm. Have you seen a pieces
of worm at all protruding from his butt?

  _  

From: Fuzzmom [mailto:fuzzm...@frontier.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:04 PM
To: msad...@msadams.com
Subject: Re: CS>Cat Won't Gain weight

So young? dear God...what type of cs? well I made it using ninevolt
batteries and silver wire..from someone who doesn't kow a lot bt lives
local..I don't know what type that is. 

- Original Message - 
From: Scott   Adams 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:00 PM
Subject: RE: CS>Cat Won't Gain weight

Yes just don't put in with any salt! What sort of CS do you have?

The all wormer for cats has to be purchased at a vet, they don't sell it
over the counter. I have heard DE does work well as a pet dewormer, never
used it myself so not sure the dosage.

Its also possible he is dying from tumor/cancer organ failure etc. Really
hard to tell.

  _  

From: Fuzzmom [mailto:fuzzm...@frontier.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:51 PM
To: msad...@msadams.com
Subject: Re: CS>Cat Won't Gain weight

No blood..he will eat and drink some..still active but weak. Can you put cs
in a water bowl that is metal? Hve used the one for roundworms without much
successs..there doesn't seem to be a cat dewormer thathandles All worms like
their is for dogs. Some people say to use diatomaceous earth..fod grade..as
a dewormer? Anyone try it? He doesn't seem dehydrated you can pick up skin
and it comes right back..just super thin. Like bones walking around. 

- Original Message - 
From: Scott   Adams 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:38 PM
Subject: RE: CS>Cat Won't Gain weight

Might be feline distemper http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feline_distemper Any
blood in the liter box?

Is he drinking? You could always put some straight CS in his water dish too.
Or syringe it into his mouth. 

If you know how to hold him by the scruff its not as hard as it seems. One
thing is to place his lips over his teeth as you do it. He will be less
prone to bite then as he is biting himself at same time. Works well.

If it is worms or tapeworms then over the counter cat dewormer might help.

Lots of possibilities here.

  _  

From: Fuzzmom [mailto:fuzzm...@frontier.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 11:59 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Cat Won't Gain weight

Hi..thanks to everyone who gave me advice on my finger..it's doing a lot
better. Now I have a Really serious problem..he's a 5 or so month old kitten
i jsut tookij. He's  a great little meowy but he won't gain weight..in fact
he seems to be losing. I don't have money for the vet..the pound..well you
know wha they'll do..can cs help? He was eating a little with tuna now he's
not even doing that. I don't know what's wrong..I thought worms but he
doesn't have the big round tummmy you see with them a lot of times. Could he
be annemic? he eats but doesn't seem tobe absorbing..pllease help! and he is
afraid and fights if you try to use a syringe..he bit one in 2. Please any
advice would be great..including what people might have used..and any silver
dosage or flavoring tips to make medicating him easier. Or is silve not what
he needs? I just want t o help him. Thanks. 

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RE: CS>Cat Won't Gain weight

Yes just don't put in with any salt! What sort of CS do you have?
 
The all wormer for cats has to be purchased at a vet, they don't sell it
over the counter. I have heard DE does work well as a pet dewormer, never
used it myself so not sure the dosage.
 
Its also possible he is dying from tumor/cancer organ failure etc. Really
hard to tell.


  _  

From: Fuzzmom [mailto:fuzzm...@frontier.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:51 PM
To: msad...@msadams.com
Subject: Re: CS>Cat Won't Gain weight


No blood..he will eat and drink some..still active but weak. Can you put cs
in a water bowl that is metal? Hve used the one for roundworms without much
successs..there doesn't seem to be a cat dewormer thathandles All worms like
their is for dogs. Some people say to use diatomaceous earth..fod grade..as
a dewormer? Anyone try it? He doesn't seem dehydrated you can pick up skin
and it comes right back..just super thin. Like bones walking around. 

- Original Message - 
From: Scott   Adams 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:38 PM
Subject: RE: CS>Cat Won't Gain weight

Might be feline distemper http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feline_distemper Any
blood in the liter box?
 
Is he drinking? You could always put some straight CS in his water dish too.
Or syringe it into his mouth. 
 
If you know how to hold him by the scruff its not as hard as it seems. One
thing is to place his lips over his teeth as you do it. He will be less
prone to bite then as he is biting himself at same time. Works well.


If it is worms or tapeworms then over the counter cat dewormer might help.
 
Lots of possibilities here.


  _  

From: Fuzzmom [mailto:fuzzm...@frontier.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 11:59 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Cat Won't Gain weight


Hi..thanks to everyone who gave me advice on my finger..it's doing a lot
better. Now I have a Really serious problem..he's a 5 or so month old kitten
i jsut tookij. He's  a great little meowy but he won't gain weight..in fact
he seems to be losing. I don't have money for the vet..the pound..well you
know wha they'll do..can cs help? He was eating a little with tuna now he's
not even doing that. I don't know what's wrong..I thought worms but he
doesn't have the big round tummmy you see with them a lot of times. Could he
be annemic? he eats but doesn't seem tobe absorbing..pllease help! and he is
afraid and fights if you try to use a syringe..he bit one in 2. Please any
advice would be great..including what people might have used..and any silver
dosage or flavoring tips to make medicating him easier. Or is silve not what
he needs? I just want t o help him. Thanks. 



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Re: CS>Cat Won't Gain weight

2009-08-19 Thread Fuzzmom

Marshall yo reocmmend d.e. I currently do use it..but it's not the pure 
white type..I ca't get it locally. It's called red lake earth with a clay 
addative. Is the pure de the white stuff more effective..better..safer? I 
coat their big bowl of dry food with de..sort of shake it up..I also de/ify 
any canned food I give them including tuna. didn't know about external use 
and fleas are lousy as we've had wees of rain and a hundred plus dgs 
outside.
- Original Message - 
From: "Marshall Dudley" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Cat Won't Gain weight



Fuzzmom wrote:

Hi..thanks to everyone who gave me advice on my finger..it's doing a
lot better. Now I have a Really serious problem..he's a 5 or so month
old kitten i jsut tookij. He's  a great little meowy but he won't gain
weight..in fact he seems to be losing. I don't have money for the
vet..the pound..well you know wha they'll do..can cs help? He was
eating a little with tuna now he's not even doing that. I don't know
what's wrong..I thought worms but he doesn't have the big round tummmy
you see with them a lot of times. Could he be annemic? he eats but
doesn't seem tobe absorbing..pllease help! and he is afraid and fights
if you try to use a syringe..he bit one in 2. Please any advice would
be great..including what people might have used..and any silver dosage
or flavoring tips to make medicating him easier. Or is silve not what
he needs? I just want t o help him. Thanks.

Hard to say without tests.  But you can try the following:

1. Colloidal Silver for viruses and bacteria infections. Keep the water
bowl filled with pure CS.
2. diatomaceous earth internally for worms and other parasites
3. diatomaceous earth externally, flea baths for fleas.

Marshall


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RE: CS>Cat Won't Gain weight

Might be feline distemper http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feline_distemper Any
blood in the liter box?
 
Is he drinking? You could always put some straight CS in his water dish too.
Or syringe it into his mouth. 
 
If you know how to hold him by the scruff its not as hard as it seems. One
thing is to place his lips over his teeth as you do it. He will be less
prone to bite then as he is biting himself at same time. Works well.

If it is worms or tapeworms then over the counter cat dewormer might help.
 
Lots of possibilities here.


  _  

From: Fuzzmom [mailto:fuzzm...@frontier.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 11:59 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Cat Won't Gain weight


Hi..thanks to everyone who gave me advice on my finger..it's doing a lot
better. Now I have a Really serious problem..he's a 5 or so month old kitten
i jsut tookij. He's  a great little meowy but he won't gain weight..in fact
he seems to be losing. I don't have money for the vet..the pound..well you
know wha they'll do..can cs help? He was eating a little with tuna now he's
not even doing that. I don't know what's wrong..I thought worms but he
doesn't have the big round tummmy you see with them a lot of times. Could he
be annemic? he eats but doesn't seem tobe absorbing..pllease help! and he is
afraid and fights if you try to use a syringe..he bit one in 2. Please any
advice would be great..including what people might have used..and any silver
dosage or flavoring tips to make medicating him easier. Or is silve not what
he needs? I just want t o help him. Thanks.

Re: CS>Cat Won't Gain weight


Fuzzmom wrote:
Hi..thanks to everyone who gave me advice on my finger..it's doing a 
lot better. Now I have a Really serious problem..he's a 5 or so month 
old kitten i jsut tookij. He's  a great little meowy but he won't gain 
weight..in fact he seems to be losing. I don't have money for the 
vet..the pound..well you know wha they'll do..can cs help? He was 
eating a little with tuna now he's not even doing that. I don't know 
what's wrong..I thought worms but he doesn't have the big round tummmy 
you see with them a lot of times. Could he be annemic? he eats but 
doesn't seem tobe absorbing..pllease help! and he is afraid and fights 
if you try to use a syringe..he bit one in 2. Please any advice would 
be great..including what people might have used..and any silver dosage 
or flavoring tips to make medicating him easier. Or is silve not what 
he needs? I just want t o help him. Thanks.

Hard to say without tests.  But you can try the following:

1. Colloidal Silver for viruses and bacteria infections. Keep the water 
bowl filled with pure CS.

2. diatomaceous earth internally for worms and other parasites
3. diatomaceous earth externally, flea baths for fleas.

Marshall


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CS>Cat Won't Gain weight

2009-08-19 Thread Fuzzmom

Hi..thanks to everyone who gave me advice on my finger..it's doing a lot 
better. Now I have a Really serious problem..he's a 5 or so month old kitten i 
jsut tookij. He's  a great little meowy but he won't gain weight..in fact he 
seems to be losing. I don't have money for the vet..the pound..well you know 
wha they'll do..can cs help? He was eating a little with tuna now he's not even 
doing that. I don't know what's wrong..I thought worms but he doesn't have the 
big round tummmy you see with them a lot of times. Could he be annemic? he eats 
but doesn't seem tobe absorbing..pllease help! and he is afraid and fights if 
you try to use a syringe..he bit one in 2. Please any advice would be 
great..including what people might have used..and any silver dosage or 
flavoring tips to make medicating him easier. Or is silve not what he needs? I 
just want t o help him. Thanks.

Re: CS>Testing....

Limes is a plural as well as a noun. Why didn't you capitalize lime to make
a noun of it. Lime with an apostrophe and an s
denotes possession -- so what belonged to that Lyme?
I think any one would extrapolate a small green fruit with the appearance of
a small green orange would be a Lime.
Dave
We don't have anything useful to talk about today eh.

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote:

> Dave Darrin wrote:
>
>> Lyme's are small green oranges. Lyme is the disease.
>> Dave
>>
>>  Hardly. Lyme's is the possessive form of Lyme, as in "Lyme's symptoms
> are".  What are the little green oranges? Are you talking about limes?
>
> Marshall
>
>
>
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RE: CS>Which silver generator to buy?

We tried Jim Meissner's samples (

http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator) for a month and they
worked well so we bought a machine. I have made many batches with it and its
not hard to do at all. I splurged for the "deluxe" version and he supplied
extras you can usually pick up yourself plus some more silver wires. If you
can afford it, it was handy to have it all together. If not its really not
needed. You will need coffee filters,  a funnel, jars etc.
 
This is not an endorsement of this product (I am in no way associated with
Jim) and you need to weigh the pros and cons yourself. Its what we decided
to do and I am happy with the decision is all.

 


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From: scvpropert...@aol.com [mailto:scvpropert...@aol.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 10:13 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Which silver generator to buy?


Just wondering which silver generators people have had success with. Which
are the most economical, safest, provide the best quality colloidal silver?
Is there any reason at all to buy the expensive premade silver product?
 
Thanks!
 
Linda

RE: CS>whooping cough.. suggestions needed

2009-08-19 Thread Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC

My Wife has used the Vicks for a lot of things.
On the feet for coughs.
She swears it works.
Bob

As odd as this may sound. put some vicks vapor rub on the soles of the
feet, and put on socks.

Marshall


Hanneke wrote:
> A friend of mine has come down with whooping cough,  and she is 
> desperate to get suggestions as to what she can do to at least help 
> the coughing subside (she has broken a rib so far).
>
> My first thought was nebulising CS with DMSO but before I pass that on

> to her I would like to pick your brains on this. Would CS with DMSO be

> helping or are other measures needed?
>
> Thanks
> Hanneke
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CS>Which silver generator to buy?

2009-08-19 Thread scvproperties


Just wondering which silver generators people have had success with. Which are 
the most economical, safest, provide the best quality colloidal silver? Is 
there any reason at all to buy the expensive premade silver?product?



Thanks!



Linda

Re: CS>whooping cough.. suggestions needed

As odd as this may sound. put some vicks vapor rub on the soles of the 
feet, and put on socks.


Marshall


Hanneke wrote:
A friend of mine has come down with whooping cough,  and she is 
desperate to get suggestions as to what she
can do to at least help the coughing subside (she has broken a rib so 
far).


My first thought was nebulising CS with DMSO but before I pass that on 
to her I would like to pick your brains on this. Would CS with DMSO be 
helping or are other measures needed?


Thanks
Hanneke



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Re: CS>Testing....


Dave Darrin wrote:

Lyme's are small green oranges. Lyme is the disease.
Dave

Hardly. Lyme's is the possessive form of Lyme, as in "Lyme's symptoms 
are".  What are the little green oranges? Are you talking about limes?


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Re: CS>18 August - Deepak Chopra on CNN

I had a CD of his years ago.  It was all to do with mind control and  
quantum physics.  Fascinating stuff!  I thought he had died. dee


On 19 Aug 2009, at 02:31, Smitty wrote:

I hope you all heard what he had to say this evening - he had them  
told as a

true professional who knows what the word integrity means !
What a gift we all have in him
Sandee

Re: CS>Testing....

I don't think anyone would recommend taking this ppm for any length of  
time.  Much better (and cheaper!) to make your own and just as, if not  
more, effective.  dee


On 19 Aug 2009, at 01:10, luv2h...@optonline.net wrote:


Marshallee...

Thanks and glad to hear the CS helped with your Lyme.  Mine is in  
the late disseminated stage as well, had it since 1986 though it was  
only diagnosed 3 years ago.  Three years of antibiotics, both orally  
and shots, haven't helped too much so I'm looking into other  
options.  CS appears to be a recommended option and I've just  
started using a product called Invive 5000 ppm.however, at the  
recommended dosage of 4 teaspoons per day it will become somewhat  
expensive at $100 per 118 ml bottle.  So I have some questions, if  
you don't mind.

Re: CS>Testing....


not with the apostrophe there, I wouldn't have thought.  dee

On 18 Aug 2009, at 21:32, Dave Darrin wrote:


Lyme's are small green oranges. Lyme is the disease.
Dave

Re: CS>CS for depression

2009-08-19 Thread kathryn clayton

me too- helps with depression, asthma and allergies. I have been having to
use a 
fair amount of it lately, with the summer being very bad for allergies. I
think it may 
have something to do with the sinuses being infected with fungi, then it
can go to 
the brain from there. Maybe it can more directly cause depression that way?

Kathryn


>Hallo Marshalee,
>
>I didn't know that. !!!
>
>I knew about the easing asthma and allegies. But really did not suspect 
>that it would have anything to do with depression. Thinks : maybe I 
>should up my dose. I only take CS when I think I'm getting something; I'm 
>relatively well so not taking much CS; but am getting old and grumpy. 
>
>btw It would be good to have your full cs making method again, please.
>
>Thanks for the new thought,
>
>OK,
>Tony
>
>
>
>On 18 Aug 2009 at 21:21, Marshalee Hallett wrote about :
>Subject : Re: CS>Testing
>
>> Hi! Please STOP taking Invive right now!!! It WILL turn you blue! (and
it
>> will certainly put you in the poor house...)I`ll email you the
directions
>> for the simple generator, which makes CS for a few cents a gallon! I
have
>> used it since 1996, and am now as well as can be, and still pink as a
>> piggy! (Fat as one too. sigh...Love that chocolate, way too much! LOL)
>> Yes, CS is the ONLY thing that stopped my Lyme. Doxy for 6 years didn`t.
>> (I wouldn`t take the iv crap.) Only side effects: it stops mild
>> depressions, eases a allergic reactions and asthma. (All in my own
>> personal experience.) CS made the way I make it won`t turn you blue as
it
>> is so fine it is easily excreted via the liver. I take 1 swallow per day
>> as a preventive, 3 for active infections (as in tummy ache from eating
>> something off.) My swallow = 1/3 Cup. Dangers? none! Have used it
>
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CS>Lyme and CS