Re: CS>Toenail fungus [Del]

[Sandy]

Del,

I also make and drink kefir, good to know that works for candida too. Didn't 
know about the xylitol, that certainly may be worth trying. I've been using 
stevia but not very often.

Oh my, some times those detox symptoms can be nearly as bad as the original 
problems. I often feel like I only have 1 or 2 good days a week...sigh...when 
will it all end?

I've just started making CS so now I have another tool to help me overcome what 
dental work and poor eating has done to me.

Thanks for the link...lots of good info.

Sandy

--- On Tue, 11/3/09, Del  wrote:

From: Del 
Subject: Re: CS>Toenail fungus [Del]
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 2:39 PM



 
Yes, I certainly agree about the dietary 
aspect.  I have cut out most sugar, since I now use Xylitol, which is 
supposedly deadly to Candida and fungus in general:
 
"Dr. Ward Dean states that this sweetener is not metabolized 
by humans OR yeast: "Yeast gobble it up, thinking they're getting sugar, and 
die". 
 
I am also drinking 8 oz of raw milk kefir each day to deal 
with internal symptoms of candida, as well as taking several drops a day of 
olive leaf and oregano oil tincture (had some STRONG detox symptoms from that, 
which are still ongoing! Proves it's working.).
 
However, once toenail fungus is entrenched, it is VERY 
difficult to get rid of.  Dietary changes alone won't do it.  You must 
kill the fungus.  Colloidal silver never touched it at all, and all the 
other popular remedies were ineffective.  The combination of DMSO and SSKI 
is the first thing I have used that appears to be killing it.  DMSO drives 
the SSKI into the flesh and under the nail where the fungus lives, that is the 
key to it.  It helped that I already had both DMSO and SSKI at hand.  
I do expect to lose the infected nails and grow new ones.  This can take up 
to a year according to the article I read: :
 
http://www.nearsightedness.org/doctors/doctors4.htm
 
Del
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Sandy 
  
  To: CS 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 12:50 
  PM
  Subject: CS>Toenail fungus [Del]
  

  


  Hi Del,

I have the same problem as you. I've had 
toenail fungus more years than not and I've tried just about everything 
they recommend. I believe it doesn't matter what you do if you continue 
to eat sugar or anything fungus likes to feed off of.

I have cut 
out all sugar and cut way back on animal protein...mainly eat raw 
fruits 
[but not too much] and raw vegetables. I am now using black salve 
w/DMSO 
and it seems to be doing something [?]. I also believe that when any of 
these things do work the new nail grows and the fungus leaves [is 
gone]. 
I'm not so sure about the nail sloughing/breaking off but anything is 
possible.

Hope we both beat it this time.

Sandy

--- 
On Mon, 11/2/09, Del  wrote:


From: 
  Del 
Subject: Fw: CS>Toenail 
  fungus
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, November 2, 
  2009, 7:19 PM


  
  

  Tried all those, and GSE as well, none of 
  them worked.
  DMSO and SSKI appear to be 
  working.
  Question is, what should I see 
  happening?
  I assume that the diseased nail dropping 
  off would be a good thing???
   
  Del



  

Re: CS>Toenail fungus

[arthur rambo]

I used Atomidine (iodine) with DMSO 50/50, on a bandaid each night. Worked 
beautifully. 





From: "Norton, Steve" 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 8:50:15 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Toenail fungus


Didn't someone on the list cure toenail fungus with EIS and DMSO by soaking in 
a footbath? Did he lose his toenails too?
 - Steve N

- Original Message -
From: julie martin 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tue Nov 03 18:44:33 2009
Subject:  CS>Toenail fungus



 i have heard David Wolfe say that the
 fungus does not live only in the nail.  he reports that
 it enters the second joint below the nail.  he has
 suggested that one would need to paint the toe (or finger)
 from the tip of the nail all the way down, up to and
 including the second joint below the affected nail with #1.
 tincture of Pau d' Arco followed immediately by #2.
 DMSO.  one would then wait until the area is completely
 dry before donning socks or shoes.  this experiment
 should continue until the new nail has grown in as any
 remaining fungus can re- root and re- enter the nail. 

 i have heard one person report that after trying many
 things for years this method did in fact work.  i began
 the protocol, but did not complete it and noticed that the
 old nail does at least sometimes pull away from the
 toe.  this was not painful and i found a small new nail
 growing in it's place. 
 julie m



 


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Re: CS>Getting Started

[Jeff Maahs]

Just unpacked my brand spanking new COM-100. Many cool features that I know 
nothing about. It's neat that the instructions actually mention CS.

Can someone give me the short lesson? 

I'm thinking I want the mode at µS and 442. This is different than the ppm that 
is talked about. Is there any conversions I have to do for say a 10 ppm 
solution? Please help me understand.

Thank you,
Jeff






From: Ode Coyote 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 4:48:39 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Getting Started



   HM Digital makes a decent PPM meter [TDS3] ..but a PPM meter isn't what 
you want...they are designed to meter "salt water" and silver water isn't 
salt water.
Looks like this one is on the low end of their line.
  A PPM meter is useful for CS ...but not very.

  Try an HM Digital EC3
http://cgi.ebay.com/HM-Digital-EC-3-Temp-Water-Conductivity-Tester-Meter_W0QQitemZ220494392013QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item33567d6acd

or COM-100

Ode


  

Re: CS>Toenail fungus

[Norton, Steve]

Didn't someone on the list cure toenail fungus with EIS and DMSO by soaking in 
a footbath? Did he lose his toenails too?
 - Steve N

- Original Message -
From: julie martin 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tue Nov 03 18:44:33 2009
Subject:  CS>Toenail fungus



 i have heard David Wolfe say that the
 fungus does not live only in the nail.  he reports that
 it enters the second joint below the nail.  he has
 suggested that one would need to paint the toe (or finger)
 from the tip of the nail all the way down, up to and
 including the second joint below the affected nail with #1.
 tincture of Pau d' Arco followed immediately by #2.
 DMSO.  one would then wait until the area is completely
 dry before donning socks or shoes.  this experiment
 should continue until the new nail has grown in as any
 remaining fungus can re- root and re- enter the nail. 
 
 i have heard one person report that after trying many
 things for years this method did in fact work.  i began
 the protocol, but did not complete it and noticed that the
 old nail does at least sometimes pull away from the
 toe.  this was not painful and i found a small new nail
 growing in it's place.  
 julie m



  


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CS>Toenail fungus

[julie martin]

 i have heard David Wolfe say that the
 fungus does not live only in the nail.  he reports that
 it enters the second joint below the nail.  he has
 suggested that one would need to paint the toe (or finger)
 from the tip of the nail all the way down, up to and
 including the second joint below the affected nail with #1.
 tincture of Pau d' Arco followed immediately by #2.
 DMSO.  one would then wait until the area is completely
 dry before donning socks or shoes.  this experiment
 should continue until the new nail has grown in as any
 remaining fungus can re- root and re- enter the nail. 
 
 i have heard one person report that after trying many
 things for years this method did in fact work.  i began
 the protocol, but did not complete it and noticed that the
 old nail does at least sometimes pull away from the
 toe.  this was not painful and i found a small new nail
 growing in it's place.  
 julie m






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CS>EIS/CS Colour...phooee

[Neville Munn]

The following would support my view, or I support theirs, whichever, regarding 
colour...

 

Quote: "True silver colloids that have a high percentage of the silver content 
in the form of nanometer sized 

particles will absorb visible light causing the apparent colour to appear 
dark-amber, {my 'tea' colour}, or brown.  

It is very high concentration of particles, not large particle size or 
contamination, that gives these products 

such colour." End quote.  This comes from an article from CSL.  Probably 
depends on which published material one wants to believe, I believe this, and 
my own visual observations over all else, not to mention my tested samples of 
course.

 

That 1 micron 'colloid' I spoke of earlier would be the upper limit, however, 
our particles/particle clusters would fall WELL under that limit.  Unless 
'lumps' of silver are found laying in the bottom of my container...it's all 
good, and the above quote is relevant.

 

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Re: CS>Color of CS

[jr orrilia]

Thanks Keith. Will certainly keep that in mind.  Orrilia



From: keith rice 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 3:27:44 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Color of CS


I have noticed that if the silver wires are too near the bottom it tends to be 
more yellow too. Make it at least an inch from the bottom. 

Keith





From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, 3 November, 2009 18:23:53
Subject: Re: CS>Color of CS

Actually she didn't, but I was looking for an explanation of why it should go 
yellow, and plastic sprung to mind.  As it was, she uses glass, so it must be 
something else, although glass can be contaminated too.  And as quite a few 
knowledgeable people have said, the EIS ideally *should* be clear; I don't know 
any other way to say it.  It *can* be yellow but this is not generally 
recognised as being the ideal, although all right. 
To me, if the EIS is stable then there is no reason why it can't be in clear 
glass/plastic.  Some are under the erroneous impression that it *should* be 
stored in coloured vessels which is what I wanted to correct.  And it isn't 
always easy to see the colour when poured out if you only have a small dose.  I 
have poured a dose from a coloured batch and it looked clear in the spoon but 
yellow in the bottle.  dee


On 3 Nov 2009, at 13:59, MaryAnn Helland wrote:

Hi Dee.  Don't want to be argumentative -- but I always worry about statements 
that a person *should* do something, because it connotates right and wrong -- 
which can confuse a person new to EIS. 
>
>EIS *can* be stored in clear bottles would be more accurate.  For myself, I 
>prefer to store mine in Cobalt blue glass bottles.  When I pour it out to use 
>it, I can clearly see if it's still clear or if it has changed color.  So far, 
>that has never happened.  I didn't see where she said anything about using 
>plastic.  ???
>MA  
>
>
>


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Re: CS>Color of CS

[MaryAnn Helland]

Hi Dee.  Just wanted to clarify -- it wasn't that "EIS should be clear" that I 
was commenting on -- it was that "EIS should be stored in clear glass".  I want 
you to know that I wasn't intending to be critical of what you said, just 
wanted to clarify that there's nothing wrong with storing it in colored glass 
bottles, and that we need to be careful in our choice of words regarding making 
and storing EIS.  People new to the process take things very literally.   

You're right -- it would be easy to miss discoloration if you only poured a 
spoon-ful at a time -- that's something that I never do.  I seem always to be 
using at least a cupful.  :-)
MA  





From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 12:23:53 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Color of CS

Actually she didn't, but I was looking for an explanation of why it should go 
yellow, and plastic sprung to mind.  As it was, she uses glass, so it must be 
something else, although glass can be contaminated too.  And as quite a few 
knowledgeable people have said, the EIS ideally *should* be clear; I don't know 
any other way to say it.  It *can* be yellow but this is not generally 
recognised as being the ideal, although all right. 
To me, if the EIS is stable then there is no reason why it can't be in clear 
glass/plastic.  Some are under the erroneous impression that it *should* be 
stored in coloured vessels which is what I wanted to correct.  And it isn't 
always easy to see the colour when poured out if you only have a small dose.  I 
have poured a dose from a coloured batch and it looked clear in the spoon but 
yellow in the bottle.  dee


On 3 Nov 2009, at 13:59, MaryAnn Helland wrote:

Hi Dee.  Don't want to be argumentative -- but I always worry about statements 
that a person *should* do something, because it connotates right and wrong -- 
which can confuse a person new to EIS. 
>
>EIS *can* be stored in clear bottles would be more accurate.  For myself, I 
>prefer to store mine in Cobalt blue glass bottles.  When I pour it out to use 
>it, I can clearly see if it's still clear or if it has changed color.  So far, 
>that has never happened.  I didn't see where she said anything about using 
>plastic.  ???
>MA  
>
>
>

Re: CS>Toenail fungus [Del]

[Del]

Yes, I certainly agree about the dietary aspect.  I have cut out most sugar, 
since I now use Xylitol, which is supposedly deadly to Candida and fungus in 
general:

"Dr. Ward Dean states that this sweetener is not metabolized by humans OR 
yeast: "Yeast gobble it up, thinking they're getting sugar, and die". 

I am also drinking 8 oz of raw milk kefir each day to deal with internal 
symptoms of candida, as well as taking several drops a day of olive leaf and 
oregano oil tincture (had some STRONG detox symptoms from that, which are still 
ongoing! Proves it's working.).

However, once toenail fungus is entrenched, it is VERY difficult to get rid of. 
 Dietary changes alone won't do it.  You must kill the fungus.  Colloidal 
silver never touched it at all, and all the other popular remedies were 
ineffective.  The combination of DMSO and SSKI is the first thing I have used 
that appears to be killing it.  DMSO drives the SSKI into the flesh and under 
the nail where the fungus lives, that is the key to it.  It helped that I 
already had both DMSO and SSKI at hand.  I do expect to lose the infected nails 
and grow new ones.  This can take up to a year according to the article I read: 
:

http://www.nearsightedness.org/doctors/doctors4.htm

Del


  - Original Message - 
  From: Sandy 
  To: CS 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 12:50 PM
  Subject: CS>Toenail fungus [Del]


Hi Del,

I have the same problem as you. I've had toenail fungus more years than 
not and I've tried just about everything they recommend. I believe it doesn't 
matter what you do if you continue to eat sugar or anything fungus likes to 
feed off of.

I have cut out all sugar and cut way back on animal protein...mainly 
eat raw fruits [but not too much] and raw vegetables. I am now using black 
salve w/DMSO and it seems to be doing something [?]. I also believe that when 
any of these things do work the new nail grows and the fungus leaves [is gone]. 
I'm not so sure about the nail sloughing/breaking off but anything is possible.

Hope we both beat it this time.

Sandy

--- On Mon, 11/2/09, Del  wrote:


  From: Del 
  Subject: Fw: CS>Toenail fungus
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 7:19 PM


  Tried all those, and GSE as well, none of them worked.
  DMSO and SSKI appear to be working.
  Question is, what should I see happening?
  I assume that the diseased nail dropping off would be a good thing???

  Del 

Re: CS>Color of CS

[keith rice]

I have noticed that if the silver wires are too near the bottom it tends to be 
more yellow too. Make it at least an inch from the bottom. 

Keith





From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, 3 November, 2009 18:23:53
Subject: Re: CS>Color of CS

Actually she didn't, but I was looking for an explanation of why it should go 
yellow, and plastic sprung to mind.  As it was, she uses glass, so it must be 
something else, although glass can be contaminated too.  And as quite a few 
knowledgeable people have said, the EIS ideally *should* be clear; I don't know 
any other way to say it.  It *can* be yellow but this is not generally 
recognised as being the ideal, although all right. 
To me, if the EIS is stable then there is no reason why it can't be in clear 
glass/plastic.  Some are under the erroneous impression that it *should* be 
stored in coloured vessels which is what I wanted to correct.  And it isn't 
always easy to see the colour when poured out if you only have a small dose.  I 
have poured a dose from a coloured batch and it looked clear in the spoon but 
yellow in the bottle.  dee


On 3 Nov 2009, at 13:59, MaryAnn Helland wrote:

Hi Dee.  Don't want to be argumentative -- but I always worry about statements 
that a person *should* do something, because it connotates right and wrong -- 
which can confuse a person new to EIS. 
>
>EIS *can* be stored in clear bottles would be more accurate.  For myself, I 
>prefer to store mine in Cobalt blue glass bottles.  When I pour it out to use 
>it, I can clearly see if it's still clear or if it has changed color.  So far, 
>that has never happened.  I didn't see where she said anything about using 
>plastic.  ???
>MA  
>
>
>



  

Re: CS>Color of CS

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Actually she didn't, but I was looking for an explanation of why it  
should go yellow, and plastic sprung to mind.  As it was, she uses  
glass, so it must be something else, although glass can be  
contaminated too.  And as quite a few knowledgeable people have said,  
the EIS ideally *should* be clear; I don't know any other way to say  
it.  It *can* be yellow but this is not generally recognised as being  
the ideal, although all right.
To me, if the EIS is stable then there is no reason why it can't be in  
clear glass/plastic.  Some are under the erroneous impression that it  
*should* be stored in coloured vessels which is what I wanted to  
correct.  And it isn't always easy to see the colour when poured out  
if you only have a small dose.  I have poured a dose from a coloured  
batch and it looked clear in the spoon but yellow in the bottle.  dee


On 3 Nov 2009, at 13:59, MaryAnn Helland wrote:

Hi Dee.  Don't want to be argumentative -- but I always worry about  
statements that a person *should* do something, because it  
connotates right and wrong -- which can confuse a person new to EIS.


EIS *can* be stored in clear bottles would be more accurate.  For  
myself, I prefer to store mine in Cobalt blue glass bottles.  When I  
pour it out to use it, I can clearly see if it's still clear or if  
it has changed color.  So far, that has never happened.  I didn't  
see where she said anything about using plastic.  ???

MA

CS>Toenail fungus [Del]

[Sandy]

Hi Del,

I have the same problem as you. I've had toenail fungus more years than not and 
I've tried just about everything they recommend. I believe it doesn't matter 
what you do if you continue to eat sugar or anything fungus likes to feed off 
of.

I have cut out all sugar and cut way back on animal protein...mainly eat raw 
fruits [but not too much] and raw vegetables. I am now using black salve w/DMSO 
and it seems to be doing something [?]. I also believe that when any of these 
things do work the new nail grows and the fungus leaves [is gone]. I'm not so 
sure about the nail sloughing/breaking off but anything is possible.

Hope we both beat it this time.

Sandy

--- On Mon, 11/2/09, Del  wrote:

From: Del 
Subject: Fw: CS>Toenail fungus
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 7:19 PM



 
 

Tried all those, and GSE as well, none of them 
worked.
DMSO and SSKI appear to be working.
Question is, what should I see 
happening?
I assume that the diseased nail dropping off would 
be a good thing???
 
Del

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Vigilius Haufniensis 
  To: Del 
  Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 5:45 
  PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Toenail fungus
  

  Try tea tre oil, or clove oil.
   
   
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Del 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 3:08 
PM
Subject: CS>Toenail fungus


Hi:
 
I have had toenail fungus for most of my life 
on my left big toe.  
I have tried many things to get rid of it, but 
nothing worked.
Recently, I realized that the fungus was 
spreading to my other left toes.
I did more research and decided to try a 
combination of two parts DMSO with 8 parts SSKI.
I have been saturating all my left toenails 
with this twice a day for a few weeks now (maybe 5 weeks).
Suddenly, it looks like some of the smaller 
nails are getting ready to break off.
Actually, I consider this a positive 
development, since I never got any reaction from anything I tried 
before.
The literature that recommended this treatment 
said the you should cut back the nails as they died until nothing was left 
anyway.
I am also taking olive leaf and oregano oil 
internally to attack from within in addition to the external 
treatment.

Has anyone on the list beaten toenail fungus 
and, if so, what was the process like?
How will I know if I have finally 
succeeded?  When a new, healthy nail grows in, I suppose?
 
Del
 


  

Re: CS>Would ConcenTrace Minerals Be a Good Gatorade Substitute?

[sol]

I wonder if anyone who has lived or often been close to the Great Salt 
Lake uses Concentrace? SLC is our nearest big city and we get the SLC tv 
stations. The Great Salt Lake is very polluted, Hill AFB is nearby and 
it is not that uncommon for jets on maneuvers to dump excess fuel into 
the lake before returning to the base. Particularly if they are having 
any trouble at all.

I really wonder what else is in the Concentrace besides the minerals.
sol

Ode Coyote wrote:

 Then they should say that.
 "X % of Sodium Chloride is removed by precipitation" [Precipitation 
induced by evaporation of water]
...but the Concentrace is still not "Desalinated", it has other salts in 
it and not all of the Sodium Chloride is gone, only reduced.

Then, 100% pure "what"?
 Pure Concentrace?  OK fine...meaningless, but OK-fine.

 Salesmen are worse than lawyers..then they team up.

Language is our greatest barrier to communication.



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Re: CS>Re: ConcenTrace Minerals & NewTrace Mineral Supplement Question

[Dan Nave]

Rather, use a natural (unrefined) Nagiri made from sea water.
Add distilled water, about 1 measure Nagiri to 2 measures water.

Dan

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 7:14 AM, Ode Coyote  wrote:
>
>
>  From the sound of it, you could make your own Concentrace by dissolving as
> much common raw unrefined rock salt as will dissolve into distilled water,
> decanting the solution off leaving whatever residue behind, then allowing
> the water to evaporate till you see something precipitate and decanting
> that.
>
> Ode
>
>
> At 02:55 PM 11/2/2009 -0500, you wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Many thanks for steering me in the right direction (away from using
>> ConcenTrace minerals in lieu of Gatorade with my CS). I appreciate your
>> help!
>>
>> BTW, does anyone have a recommended well-absorbed source of micro and
>> trace minerals that I would be better off using than Concentrace for mineral
>> supplementation?
>>
>> thanks again,
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Dan Nave" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 10:44 AM
>> Subject: Re: CS>Would ConcenTrace Minerals Be a Good Gatorade Substitute?
>>
>>
>> Look up how Nagiri is made.  This description (although not the best)
>> may be similar to the way they make Nagiri.
>> Sodium Chloride will precipitate out before Magnesium Chloride and
>> some other salts.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 4:22 AM, Ode Coyote 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> ## That sounds like 100% pure hooey.
>>> Evaporation removes water, not sodium..hence the WATER is desalinated
>>> [but
>>> that's not in the bottle] and the minerals concentrated into 100% all
>>> sorts of different mineral salts, nothing pure about it.
>>> Well, maybe pure Salt Lake...but pure Detroit sewage could be labeled
>>> that
>>> way too. [LikePure Male Bovine Fertilizer]
>>> ..could just drink sea water or use sea salt?
>>> And how is that any different from raw rock salt that's spread out on the
>>> road to melt ice, anyhow?
>>> What makes one ancient ocean turned salt mine any different from another
>>> ancient ocean?
>>> Salt lake not quite dry enough to be a salt mine yet? ..and not isolated
>>> from modern pollutants. How inconvenient.
>>>
>>> Like whole wheat bread..charging more because it HASN'T been worked over.
>>>
>>> Ode
>>
>>
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RE: CS>Color of CS

[Neville Munn]

Dees' snipped quote:

[particles have agglomerated which means they have clumped together]

-Yep, and that would mean what...?

 

 Question (a) Does anyone know what the size of these particle clusters would 
be?  punters have an idea of how SMALL their particles may be, but do they know 
how large the OTHER particles/particle clusters are in that same solution?

 

'Nano particles' or whatever one wants to call them are only half the story, 
particles and/or particle clusters are the other half of the story, and 
literature states under 1 micron is acceptable to be classed as a 'colloid', 
which indicates colour does not necessarily suggest an inferior solution in the 
scheme of things EIS/CS related, can't have ions without particles/particle 
clusters anyway.

 

That brings me to question (b) Has it been established that THESE particle 
clusters would NOT still be bio-available? (providing of course they remain 
under that 1 micron stipulation and good old gravity doesn't pull 'lumps' of 
silver out of solution).

The degree of efficacy, and/or the speed of that efficacy for varying coloured 
solutions would be dependant on the SIZE of those particles/particle clusters 
in that solution, granted praps, but the solution will still do it's 'job' so 
to speak, regardless of colour, within MY acceptable colour parameters anyway.

 

Bottom line...Don't be afraid of colours, they're all 'good'. {my opinion of 
course, as always} .

 

N. 


From: d...@deetroy.org
Subject: Re: CS>Color of CS
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:22:35 +
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

It should be clear ideally; if its yellow it means the particles have 
agglomerated which means they have clumped together, either with themselves or 
something else in the water.  This could be the water you have used not being 
too good, or even something leaching out of the plastic.  EIS should be put 
into clear bottles - it is not necessary to put it in coloured bottles and you 
cannot see the colour of it if you use coloured.  dee



On 2 Nov 2009, at 23:09, jr orrilia wrote:



Just a question.  When I make my CS, it is clear or a very light yellow color. 
When I open the bottle maybe 2 days later, it is a dark gold.  Is this normal?  
I store my CS in green or brown colored bottles.  Thanks for any help given.  
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Re: CS>Color of CS

[MaryAnn Helland]

Hi Dee.  Don't want to be argumentative -- but I always worry about statements 
that a person *should* do something, because it connotates right and wrong -- 
which can confuse a person new to EIS.  

EIS *can* be stored in clear bottles would be more accurate.  For myself, I 
prefer to store mine in Cobalt blue glass bottles.  When I pour it out to use 
it, I can clearly see if it's still clear or if it has changed color.  So far, 
that has never happened.  I didn't see where she said anything about using 
plastic.  ???
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From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 6:22:35 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Color of CS

It should be clear ideally; if its yellow it means the particles have 
agglomerated which means they have clumped together, either with themselves or 
something else in the water.  This could be the water you have used not being 
too good, or even something leaching out of the plastic.  EIS should be put 
into clear bottles - it is not necessary to put it in coloured bottles and you 
cannot see the colour of it if you use coloured.  dee 


On 2 Nov 2009, at 23:09, jr orrilia wrote:


>
>Just a question.  When I make my CS, it is clear or a very light yellow 
>color. When I open the bottle maybe 2 days later, it is a dark gold.  Is this 
>normal?  I store my CS in green or brown colored bottles.  Thanks for any help 
>given.  Orrilia
>
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Re: CS>Color of CS

[jr orrilia]

I make it in a clear glass container with distilled water.  When done, it is 
always mostly clear.  I am wondering since I keep using the same colored glass 
bottles if it is somehow affecting the color in time?  Thanks Ode.Orrilia





From: Ode Coyote 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 8:20:11 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Color of CS



  How do you make it?

Ode


At 03:09 PM 11/2/2009 -0800, you wrote:


> Just a question.  When I make my CS, it is clear or a very light yellow 
> color. When I open the bottle maybe 2 days later, it is a dark gold.  Is this 
> normal?  I store my CS in green or brown colored bottles.  Thanks for any 
> help given.  Orrilia
> 
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Re: CS>Color of CS

[jr orrilia]

Thanks Dorothy.  I use distilled water from the grocery stores and use glass 
bottles to store it and make the CS out of a glass container.  Maybe I will 
start storing it in clear glass bottles and change the water brand.  Thanks for 
the information. Orrilia





From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 7:22:35 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Color of CS

It should be clear ideally; if its yellow it means the particles have 
agglomerated which means they have clumped together, either with themselves or 
something else in the water.  This could be the water you have used not being 
too good, or even something leaching out of the plastic.  EIS should be put 
into clear bottles - it is not necessary to put it in coloured bottles and you 
cannot see the colour of it if you use coloured.  dee 


On 2 Nov 2009, at 23:09, jr orrilia wrote:


>
>Just a question.  When I make my CS, it is clear or a very light yellow 
>color. When I open the bottle maybe 2 days later, it is a dark gold.  Is this 
>normal?  I store my CS in green or brown colored bottles.  Thanks for any help 
>given.  Orrilia
>
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Re: CS>Color of CS

[Ode Coyote]

  How do you make it?

Ode


At 03:09 PM 11/2/2009 -0800, you wrote:


Just a question.  When I make my CS, it is clear or a very light yellow 
color. When I open the bottle maybe 2 days later, it is a dark gold.  Is 
this normal?  I store my CS in green or brown colored bottles.  Thanks for 
any help given.  Orrilia



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Re: CS>Re: ConcenTrace Minerals & NewTrace Mineral Supplement Question

[Ode Coyote]

 From the sound of it, you could make your own Concentrace by dissolving 
as much common raw unrefined rock salt as will dissolve into distilled 
water, decanting the solution off leaving whatever residue behind, then 
allowing the water to evaporate till you see something precipitate and 
decanting that.


Ode


At 02:55 PM 11/2/2009 -0500, you wrote:

Hi All,

Many thanks for steering me in the right direction (away from using 
ConcenTrace minerals in lieu of Gatorade with my CS). I appreciate your help!


BTW, does anyone have a recommended well-absorbed source of micro and 
trace minerals that I would be better off using than Concentrace for 
mineral supplementation?


thanks again,

Peter

- Original Message - From: "Dan Nave" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Would ConcenTrace Minerals Be a Good Gatorade Substitute?


Look up how Nagiri is made.  This description (although not the best)
may be similar to the way they make Nagiri.
Sodium Chloride will precipitate out before Magnesium Chloride and
some other salts.

Dan

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 4:22 AM, Ode Coyote  wrote:

## That sounds like 100% pure hooey.
Evaporation removes water, not sodium..hence the WATER is desalinated [but
that's not in the bottle] and the minerals concentrated into 100% all
sorts of different mineral salts, nothing pure about it.
Well, maybe pure Salt Lake...but pure Detroit sewage could be labeled that
way too. [LikePure Male Bovine Fertilizer]
..could just drink sea water or use sea salt?
And how is that any different from raw rock salt that's spread out on the
road to melt ice, anyhow?
What makes one ancient ocean turned salt mine any different from another
ancient ocean?
Salt lake not quite dry enough to be a salt mine yet? ..and not isolated
from modern pollutants. How inconvenient.

Like whole wheat bread..charging more because it HASN'T been worked over.

Ode



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Re: CS>FW: Conductivity meter (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Ode Coyote]

Measurement range: 0 ~ 19.9ECResolution: 0.1EC
 Just what is an "EC" that it would measure 1-19.9 of them?

 Specs [that actually mean something] are generally in micro or milli 
Siemens / CC [ uS or mS ]


Ode

Measurement range: 0 ~ 19.9ECResolution: 0.1EC Measurement range: 0 ~ 
19.9ECResolution: 0.1EC


At 12:45 PM 11/2/2009 -0500, you wrote:

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE




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Is this meter any good for CS

Bob


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Re: CS>Would ConcenTrace Minerals Be a Good Gatorade Substitute?

[Ode Coyote]

At 08:05 AM 11/2/2009 -0800, you wrote:

Ode,

Let's not knock whole wheat bread.  At least it contains  fiber and 
the more nutritional wheat kernal.


 ##  Not knocking wheat bread.


 Knocking that it costs more because it has had less done to it.
That's like selling crude oil for more than gasoline.

Ode


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Re: CS>Would ConcenTrace Minerals Be a Good Gatorade Substitute?

[Ode Coyote]

 Then they should say that.
 "X % of Sodium Chloride is removed by precipitation" [Precipitation 
induced by evaporation of water]
...but the Concentrace is still not "Desalinated", it has other salts in it 
and not all of the Sodium Chloride is gone, only reduced.

Then, 100% pure "what"?
 Pure Concentrace?  OK fine...meaningless, but OK-fine.

 Salesmen are worse than lawyers..then they team up.

Language is our greatest barrier to communication.


Ode


At 09:44 AM 11/2/2009 -0600, you wrote:

Look up how Nagiri is made.  This description (although not the best)
may be similar to the way they make Nagiri.
Sodium Chloride will precipitate out before Magnesium Chloride and
some other salts.

Dan

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 4:22 AM, Ode Coyote  wrote:
> ##  That sounds like 100% pure hooey.
>  Evaporation removes water, not sodium..hence the WATER is desalinated [but
> that's not in the bottle] and the minerals concentrated into 100% all
> sorts of different mineral salts, nothing pure about it.
>  Well,  maybe pure Salt Lake...but pure Detroit sewage could be labeled 
that

> way too. [LikePure Male Bovine Fertilizer]
> ..could just drink sea water or use sea salt?
>  And how  is that any different from raw rock salt that's spread out on the
> road to melt ice, anyhow?
>  What makes one ancient ocean turned salt mine any different from another
> ancient ocean?
> Salt lake not quite dry enough to be a salt mine yet?  ..and not isolated
> from modern pollutants.  How inconvenient.
>
> Like whole wheat bread..charging more because it HASN'T been worked over.
>
> Ode


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Re: CS>Color of CS

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

It should be clear ideally; if its yellow it means the particles have  
agglomerated which means they have clumped together, either with  
themselves or something else in the water.  This could be the water  
you have used not being too good, or even something leaching out of  
the plastic.  EIS should be put into clear bottles - it is not  
necessary to put it in coloured bottles and you cannot see the colour  
of it if you use coloured.  dee


On 2 Nov 2009, at 23:09, jr orrilia wrote:




Just a question.  When I make my CS, it is clear or a very light  
yellow color. When I open the bottle maybe 2 days later, it is a  
dark gold.  Is this normal?  I store my CS in green or brown colored  
bottles.  Thanks for any help given.  Orrilia


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Re: CS>Question on thyroid (autoimmunity)

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I Googled it and it says it is.  dee

On 2 Nov 2009, at 22:56, Lisa wrote:


At the risk of sounding ignorant, is SSKI – potassium iodide?

Lisa

From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org]
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 1:09 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Question on thyroid (autoimmunity)

Hi Lisa, I just thought I'd mention again that Mercola recommends  
iodine supplementation for thyroid but is definitely against using  
Lugols.  He actually stated that it could make thyroid problems  
worse.  He says SSKI is the one to use.  dee


On 2 Nov 2009, at 15:07, Lisa wrote: