Re: CS>H202 - again

[Tony Moody]

Dee, 

I would use good quality drinking water, but I'm not much of a purist. 
But someone recently recommended only using distilled water for diluting.

On the fence,
Tony




On 17 Apr 2010 at 12:46, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote about :
Subject : CS>H202 - again

> Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled water
> when making my 3% H202.  If it is alright to use tap I would rather do
> this, but if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that.  I
> noticed on the H202 site it just mentions water.  dee
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Re: CS>YO YO EIS

[Tony Moody]

Hi Tom,

How about do the same exercise with distilled water with respect to the 
conductivity

OK,
tony

On 16 Apr 2010 at 21:09, poast wrote about :
Subject : CS>YO YO EIS

> I have been exercising some EIS over the past few days.
> 
> I started out with a solution that had a conductivity of about 15 uS.
> 
> I added a very small amount of ascorbic acid.  The solution turned amber
> brown, then went to grey.  However, when I held it up to sunlight, it
> was more amber, but under the kitchen light it was grey.
> 
> I then added some H2O2 and didn't think it was going to do anything, but
> the next day the solution was clear, with a good Tyndale effect. 
> Conductivity is up to 25 uS.
> 
> I then added some more ascorbic acid, and once again ended up with a
> grey solution.
> 
> Add more H2O2 and after a while it clears back up.  At this point the
> conductivity of the solution was about 75 uS.
> 
> Once again I add some ascorbic acid.  This time there wasn't much of a
> reaction.  I added a little more, and after some time the solution
> turned to a light grey.
> 
> Add more H2O2 and after a while it goes clear again.  Conductivity is
> now up to 115 uS.
> 
> Added more ascorbic acid and nothing happened.  Added more and finally
> the reaction started.  Let it sit for a few hours, and once again the
> solution is slightly grey.
> 
> Add more H2O2 and after a while it goes clear again.  Conductivity is up
> to 185 uS.
> 
> 
> 
> Questions...
> 
> What is going on?
> 
> Have I worn this solution out, or is it still good for something?
> 
> Is the increase in conductivity due to the addition of the ascorbic
> acid? Or am I chemically making a higher concentration?
> 
> Is this similar to what goes on inside the body?
> 
> Is this of any use to anyone?  
> 
> It was a fun experiment, but I am not sure if it has value.  I have to
> confess that I am having too much fun.
> 
> Tom



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Re: CS>H202 - again

[Leslie]

Did you use that Himalaya salt or plain sea salt from the health food store? 
I use that anyway.
- Original Message - 
From: "poast" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:32 AM
Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again



Hello Leslie,

My son complains of the drinking water in his city.  We took the PWT meter
and checked our water, which is absolutely great, and then added sea salt 
to

distilled water to get the same conductivity reading.  We came up with
adding 0.6 grams of the sea salt to 1 gallon of distilled water.

Tom


- Original Message - 
From: "Leslie" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again



I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra
minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine.
- Original Message - 
From: "sol" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again


> Dee,
>  I would personally use distilled, but then I use distilled for nearly
> everything, to avoid the contaminants in the tap water.
> But the way to decide would be to consider what you plan to use that

H202

> for, and whether tap water minerals and contaminants are going to be
> undesireable for those uses.
> sol
>
> Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
>> Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled 
>> water

>> when making my 3% H202.  If it is alright to use tap I would rather do
>> this, but if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that. 
>> I

>> noticed on the H202 site it just mentions water.  dee
>>
>>
>
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Re: CS>H202 - again

[leslie]

How much does that meter cost? My batteries are out of that TDS (?) meter 
and it takes 4 or 6 which is 6.75 at Utopia. I am not sure that is a really 
good meter either, so thinking to get another kind. thanks, Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: "poast" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:32 AM
Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again



Hello Leslie,

My son complains of the drinking water in his city.  We took the PWT meter
and checked our water, which is absolutely great, and then added sea salt 
to

distilled water to get the same conductivity reading.  We came up with
adding 0.6 grams of the sea salt to 1 gallon of distilled water.

Tom


- Original Message - 
From: "Leslie" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again



I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra
minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine.
- Original Message - 
From: "sol" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again


> Dee,
>  I would personally use distilled, but then I use distilled for nearly
> everything, to avoid the contaminants in the tap water.
> But the way to decide would be to consider what you plan to use that

H202

> for, and whether tap water minerals and contaminants are going to be
> undesireable for those uses.
> sol
>
> Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
>> Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled 
>> water

>> when making my 3% H202.  If it is alright to use tap I would rather do
>> this, but if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that. 
>> I

>> noticed on the H202 site it just mentions water.  dee
>>
>>
>
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Re: CS>H202 - again

[poast]

Hello Leslie,

My son complains of the drinking water in his city.  We took the PWT meter
and checked our water, which is absolutely great, and then added sea salt to
distilled water to get the same conductivity reading.  We came up with
adding 0.6 grams of the sea salt to 1 gallon of distilled water.

Tom


- Original Message - 
From: "Leslie" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again


> I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra
> minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "sol" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:22 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again
>
>
> > Dee,
> >  I would personally use distilled, but then I use distilled for nearly
> > everything, to avoid the contaminants in the tap water.
> > But the way to decide would be to consider what you plan to use that
H202
> > for, and whether tap water minerals and contaminants are going to be
> > undesireable for those uses.
> > sol
> >
> > Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
> >> Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled water
> >> when making my 3% H202.  If it is alright to use tap I would rather do
> >> this, but if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that.  I
> >> noticed on the H202 site it just mentions water.  dee
> >>
> >>
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Re: CS>H202 - again

[poast]

Hello Dee,

I would recommend using distilled water.  That way you know what you have.
Sometimes tap water can contain things that can reduce the strength of your
solution.  Distilled water is usually free from impurities.

Tom


- Original Message - 
From: "Dorothy Fitzpatrick" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 3:46 AM
Subject: CS>H202 - again


Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled water when
making my 3% H202.  If it is alright to use tap I would rather do this, but
if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that.  I noticed on the
H202 site it just mentions water.  dee

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Re: CS>YO YO EIS

[poast]

Hello Dee,

I would like to know what I ended up with too.

The problem is that I only seem to be able to make clear EIS.  Clear can be
boring at times, so I thought I would spice things up a little... :)

Actually I was just interested to see if the process was reversible.  That
part of the test was successful.  The problem with testing is that while you
do answer some questions, you often are left with may unanswered ones.

Tom



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From: "Dorothy Fitzpatrick" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: CS>YO YO EIS


I would love to know what you ended up with Tom!  and I worry about a couple
of drops of H202 and a slightly yellow solution!dee


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Re: CS>YO YO EIS

[poast]

Hello Malcolm,

OK, so I am seeing a build up on ascorbic acid ions.

Do you think this solution is good for anything?

Would you drink it?

Does a reaction something like this go on inside the body?

Tom



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From: "Malcolm" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: CS>YO YO EIS


> Hi,
> My best guess; you're measuring the conductivity of a weak acid,
> ascorbic.  It likes to interact with hydrogen peroxide.  Here's the
> story from wiki, and I suspect the silver ion is just getting booted
> around becoming an oxide, then an ion, etc.  Dunno; Marshall or Steve
> are the chemists, but the reaction between H2O2 and ascorbic stops the
> classic free-radical 'Jacob's ladder' of monoatomic oxygen.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascorbic_acid
> 
> Take care, 
> Malcolm


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Re: CS>H202 - again

[Annie B Smythe]

A pinch of good ol' sea salt will do it. Not 
enough to make the water salty just add a few 
trace minerals. Or you can buy an ionic trace 
mineral and add a couple of drop per gallon.


Annie

Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh


Leslie wrote:
OK. What should I do to add some minerals. You mentioned some filter and 
adding Clay? Would appreciate some suggestions and simple directions for 
me and reasonable px. Thanks.

- Original Message - From: "Bob Banever" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again



sol,

  You can remove fluoride from your drinking water with a good (at 
least 6 stage) reverse osmosis filtration system.  I have a 
remineralizing filter as the last stage in mine to add trace minerals 
lost in the filtration. These are usually volcanic or clay minerals 
that do not contain fluoride. Good luck


Bob
- Original Message - From: "sol" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again


I drink only distilled water and have done for several years now. 
I've not noticed any problems with mineral levels in my annual blood 
work. Everyone has to make their own decision on this issue, but 
after extensive online research, I personally decided (for myself ) 
that it is better to drink clean water, without pesticides, cysts and 
spores, lead, fluoride, chlorine, and so forth. There is  naturally 
occurring fluoride in the water here which I do not want. 
Distillation is one of the very few ways of removing fluoride from 
water, regular filtering does not remove fluoride, that is faucet 
filters, shower filters, Brita type filters, none of those remove 
fluoride.
There are multiple products on the market which can be added to 
distilled water to add minerals back in, but I do not use any of them 
myself.
If your mouth is dry overnight, you probably are getting dehydrated, 
but I don't believe that is because of drinking DW. I get dry mouth 
overnight but have done for umpty ump years, decades before I ever 
tasted a drop of DW. My husband has dry mouth and he doesn't drink 
any DW.

sol

Leslie wrote:
I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking 
extra minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also 
like Chlorine.



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Re: CS>A whistleblower claims , ALSO

[Marlene Hanson]

Also of note I understand that the Rockefellers helped to establish the ADA and 
AMA and elevated it to the point where the government actually bases many laws 
on their suggestions. They also lobby to keep the powers which they have as a 
labor organization representing and monitoring themselves by law. Much of their 
powers were given due to the fact that the Rockefellers paid so much money to 
get these privileges.  M  
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  From: Marlene Hanson 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 7:02 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>A whistleblower claims ,the drug industry wants to keep us 
sick?


  From what I have read in books and on the internet about the time when the 
Rockefellers started limiting the universities which could teach medicine. They 
also established criteria for medical students to be chosen by. They should not 
question or make decisions. They were tested and only those who would follow 
the path and rules laid out for them would be admitted to medical school. 

  The thinkers and decision makers were relegated to research and they were 
controlled by direct grants of money for studies which would help the Drug 
manufacturers. Rockefeller gave large grants for the Universities which would 
develop medicines based on the waste from his oil refineries. 

  Much of this information came from a book I can't even find and have 
forgotten the full name, I think the title is Healthology your key to health.  
It made since to me. Rockefeller the oil magnet was the son of  the Rockefeller 
who sold petroleum oil as a cure all or Nostrum. It was sold by hawkers on the 
streets and by mail. it does make sense to me. Marlene  
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From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: CS>A whistleblower claims ,the drug industry wants to keep us 
sick?


Actually, I think I would agree Annie (being less charitable as well ) 
dee

On 8 Apr 2010, at 20:06, Annie B Smythe wrote:

> I'm a little less charitable. I believe for most it's just plain 
laziness. They don't want to put in the effort it takes to LEARN what they need 
to know, to take intelligent informed action, unless their comfortable little 
world, provided to keep them content, is upset (and usually by then it's too 
late). They actually prefer to let others make decisions for them and tell them 
what to do instead of using the minds they have to winnow out the lies and BS. 
That's why we call them sheople. A herd blindly following ill chosen shepherds. 
And this occurs in every area; economic, health, education, religion, and etc.
> 
> Annie
> 
> Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh
> 
> 
> Richard Goodwin wrote:


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Re: CS>A whistleblower claims ,the drug industry wants to keep us sick?????

[Marlene Hanson]

>From what I have read in books and on the internet about the time when the 
>Rockefellers started limiting the universities which could teach medicine. 
>They also established criteria for medical students to be chosen by. They 
>should not question or make decisions. They were tested and only those who 
>would follow the path and rules laid out for them would be admitted to medical 
>school. 

The thinkers and decision makers were relegated to research and they were 
controlled by direct grants of money for studies which would help the Drug 
manufacturers. Rockefeller gave large grants for the Universities which would 
develop medicines based on the waste from his oil refineries. 

Much of this information came from a book I can't even find and have forgotten 
the full name, I think the title is Healthology your key to health.  It made 
since to me. Rockefeller the oil magnet was the son of  the Rockefeller who 
sold petroleum oil as a cure all or Nostrum. It was sold by hawkers on the 
streets and by mail. it does make sense to me. Marlene  
  - Original Message - '
  From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 6:50 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>A whistleblower claims ,the drug industry wants to keep us 
sick?


  Actually, I think I would agree Annie (being less charitable as well ) 
dee

  On 8 Apr 2010, at 20:06, Annie B Smythe wrote:

  > I'm a little less charitable. I believe for most it's just plain laziness. 
They don't want to put in the effort it takes to LEARN what they need to know, 
to take intelligent informed action, unless their comfortable little world, 
provided to keep them content, is upset (and usually by then it's too late). 
They actually prefer to let others make decisions for them and tell them what 
to do instead of using the minds they have to winnow out the lies and BS. 
That's why we call them sheople. A herd blindly following ill chosen shepherds. 
And this occurs in every area; economic, health, education, religion, and etc.
  > 
  > Annie
  > 
  > Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh
  > 
  > 
  > Richard Goodwin wrote:


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Re: CS>H202 - again

[Sandy]

Hi Leslie,

I drink nothing but distilled water. I fill up a 5 gallon glass container with 
distilled water then add sole 
[http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/saltsole.htm] made from Himalayan sea 
salt which is loaded with minerals and trace elements. I put 1 Tbsp per gallon. 
Obviously there have been some who claim Himalayan sea salt is no better for 
you than any other salt but from my own experience it has not harmed me in any 
way that I'm aware of.

Just something to think about. 


Best regards,
Sandy

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--- On Sat, 4/17/10, Leslie  wrote:

> From: Leslie 
> Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Saturday, April 17, 2010, 6:42 PM
> OK. What should I do to add some
> minerals. You mentioned some filter and adding Clay? Would
> appreciate some suggestions and simple directions for me and
> reasonable px. Thanks.
> - Original Message - From: "Bob Banever" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 5:37 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again
> 
> 
> > sol,
> > 
> >   You can remove fluoride from your
> drinking water with a good (at least 6 stage) reverse
> osmosis filtration system.  I have a remineralizing
> filter as the last stage in mine to add trace minerals lost
> in the filtration. These are usually volcanic or clay
> minerals that do not contain fluoride. Good luck
> > 
> > Bob
> > - Original Message - From: "sol" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:58 PM
> > Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again
> > 
> > 
> >> I drink only distilled water and have done for
> several years now. I've not noticed any problems with
> mineral levels in my annual blood work. Everyone has to make
> their own decision on this issue, but after extensive online
> research, I personally decided (for myself ) that it is
> better to drink clean water, without pesticides, cysts and
> spores, lead, fluoride, chlorine, and so forth. There
> is  naturally occurring fluoride in the water here
> which I do not want. Distillation is one of the very few
> ways of removing fluoride from water, regular filtering does
> not remove fluoride, that is faucet filters, shower filters,
> Brita type filters, none of those remove fluoride.
> >> There are multiple products on the market which
> can be added to distilled water to add minerals back in, but
> I do not use any of them myself.
> >> If your mouth is dry overnight, you probably are
> getting dehydrated, but I don't believe that is because of
> drinking DW. I get dry mouth overnight but have done for
> umpty ump years, decades before I ever tasted a drop of DW.
> My husband has dry mouth and he doesn't drink any DW.
> >> sol
> >> 
> >> Leslie wrote:
> >>> I have started drinking distilled water only.
> Should I be taking extra minerals?? Our water is terrible
> and bad things added also like Chlorine.
> >> 
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Re: CS>H202 - again Big Berkey water filter

[Garrick]

FWIW   I filter with two standard size 10" filters in standard sized
housings. Connected together. First is one micron carbon block, then
activated alumina filter to remove fluorides. On an urban water system I see
little sediment so no sediment filter. Total cost is $50 for the filters and
should be replaced once per year according to my extremely knowledgeable
local expert. The one micron carbon is made from lignite, not coconut
shells. Better suited to the water here. So says my expert

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On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Hanneke  wrote:

> I am using one of these  water filters
> http://www.directive21.com/big-berkey.html . With the special fluoride
> filters, it removes the fluoride as well.  I might add some Concentrace
> (minerals) to a gallon of water.  I am sure there are other  more advanced
> water filters which remove not only the nasties but also fluoride.
>
> Hanneke
>
> At 08:07 AM 18/04/2010, you wrote:
>
>> sol,
>>
>>  You can remove fluoride from your drinking water with a good (at least 6
>> stage) reverse osmosis filtration system.  I have a remineralizing filter as
>> the last stage in mine to add trace minerals lost in the filtration.  These
>> are usually volcanic or clay minerals that do not contain fluoride.  Good
>> luck
>>
>> Bob
>> - Original Message - From: "sol" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again
>>
>>
>>  I drink only distilled water and have done for several years now. I've
>>> not noticed any problems with mineral levels in my annual blood work.
>>> Everyone has to make their own decision on this issue, but after extensive
>>> online research, I personally decided (for myself ) that it is better to
>>> drink clean water, without pesticides, cysts and spores, lead, fluoride,
>>> chlorine, and so forth. There is  naturally occurring fluoride in the water
>>> here which I do not want. Distillation is one of the very few ways of
>>> removing fluoride from water, regular filtering does not remove fluoride,
>>> that is faucet filters, shower filters, Brita type filters, none of those
>>> remove fluoride.
>>> There are multiple products on the market which can be added to distilled
>>> water to add minerals back in, but I do not use any of them myself.
>>> If your mouth is dry overnight, you probably are getting dehydrated, but
>>> I don't believe that is because of drinking DW. I get dry mouth overnight
>>> but have done for umpty ump years, decades before I ever tasted a drop of
>>> DW. My husband has dry mouth and he doesn't drink any DW.
>>> sol
>>>
>>> Leslie wrote:
>>>
 I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra
 minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine.

>>>
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Re: CS>H202 - again

[Bob Banever]

Leslie,

  Assuming you have a RO system already installed, here is a link to an 
inexpensive remineralizing filter that you can add to your existing system,


Bob

http://www.purewatersite.com/2quot-x-10quot-alkaline-ph-up-sea-coral-remineralization-filter-pw21010.html
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To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again


OK. What should I do to add some minerals. You mentioned some filter and 
adding Clay? Would appreciate some suggestions and simple directions for 
me and reasonable px. Thanks.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Banever" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again



sol,

  You can remove fluoride from your drinking water with a good (at least 
6 stage) reverse osmosis filtration system.  I have a remineralizing 
filter as the last stage in mine to add trace minerals lost in the 
filtration. These are usually volcanic or clay minerals that do not 
contain fluoride. Good luck


Bob
- Original Message - 
From: "sol" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again


I drink only distilled water and have done for several years now. I've 
not noticed any problems with mineral levels in my annual blood work. 
Everyone has to make their own decision on this issue, but after 
extensive online research, I personally decided (for myself ) that it is 
better to drink clean water, without pesticides, cysts and spores, lead, 
fluoride, chlorine, and so forth. There is  naturally occurring fluoride 
in the water here which I do not want. Distillation is one of the very 
few ways of removing fluoride from water, regular filtering does not 
remove fluoride, that is faucet filters, shower filters, Brita type 
filters, none of those remove fluoride.
There are multiple products on the market which can be added to 
distilled water to add minerals back in, but I do not use any of them 
myself.
If your mouth is dry overnight, you probably are getting dehydrated, but 
I don't believe that is because of drinking DW. I get dry mouth 
overnight but have done for umpty ump years, decades before I ever 
tasted a drop of DW. My husband has dry mouth and he doesn't drink any 
DW.

sol

Leslie wrote:
I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra 
minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like 
Chlorine.



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Re: CS>H202 - again

[Bob Banever]

Chuck,

  True.  However adding minerals to the water makes it less acidic and 
more alkaline.


  Bob
- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again


The theory is a bit controversial.

Consider where you get most of your bioavailable minerals
from...(hint...FOOD).
Water is a minor source.

Chuck
If you don't cook you get a raw deal every meal!



On 4/17/2010 3:29:49 PM, needling around (ptf2...@bellsouth.net)
wrote:

I have read that distilled water not only does not provide the body with
minerals but actually acts as a magnet and draws them out of the body.  I

read this a long time ago and it seemed plausible.
PT


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From: "Leslie" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again


>I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra
>minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine.



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Re: CS>H202 - again Big Berkey water filter

[Hanneke]

I am using one of these  water filters 
http://www.directive21.com/big-berkey.html . With the special 
fluoride filters, it removes the fluoride as well.  I might add some 
Concentrace (minerals) to a gallon of water.  I am sure there are 
other  more advanced water filters which remove not only the nasties 
but also fluoride.


Hanneke

At 08:07 AM 18/04/2010, you wrote:

sol,

  You can remove fluoride from your drinking water with a good (at 
least 6 stage) reverse osmosis filtration system.  I have a 
remineralizing filter as the last stage in mine to add trace 
minerals lost in the filtration.  These are usually volcanic or 
clay minerals that do not contain fluoride.  Good luck


Bob
- Original Message - From: "sol" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again


I drink only distilled water and have done for several years now. 
I've not noticed any problems with mineral levels in my annual 
blood work. Everyone has to make their own decision on this issue, 
but after extensive online research, I personally decided (for 
myself ) that it is better to drink clean water, without 
pesticides, cysts and spores, lead, fluoride, chlorine, and so 
forth. There is  naturally occurring fluoride in the water here 
which I do not want. Distillation is one of the very few ways of 
removing fluoride from water, regular filtering does not remove 
fluoride, that is faucet filters, shower filters, Brita type 
filters, none of those remove fluoride.
There are multiple products on the market which can be added to 
distilled water to add minerals back in, but I do not use any of them myself.
If your mouth is dry overnight, you probably are getting 
dehydrated, but I don't believe that is because of drinking DW. I 
get dry mouth overnight but have done for umpty ump years, decades 
before I ever tasted a drop of DW. My husband has dry mouth and he 
doesn't drink any DW.

sol

Leslie wrote:
I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking 
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Re: CS>H202 - again

[Leslie]

OK. What should I do to add some minerals. You mentioned some filter and 
adding Clay? Would appreciate some suggestions and simple directions for me 
and reasonable px. Thanks.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Banever" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again



sol,

  You can remove fluoride from your drinking water with a good (at least 6 
stage) reverse osmosis filtration system.  I have a remineralizing filter 
as the last stage in mine to add trace minerals lost in the filtration. 
These are usually volcanic or clay minerals that do not contain fluoride. 
Good luck


Bob
- Original Message - 
From: "sol" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again


I drink only distilled water and have done for several years now. I've not 
noticed any problems with mineral levels in my annual blood work. Everyone 
has to make their own decision on this issue, but after extensive online 
research, I personally decided (for myself ) that it is better to drink 
clean water, without pesticides, cysts and spores, lead, fluoride, 
chlorine, and so forth. There is  naturally occurring fluoride in the 
water here which I do not want. Distillation is one of the very few ways 
of removing fluoride from water, regular filtering does not remove 
fluoride, that is faucet filters, shower filters, Brita type filters, none 
of those remove fluoride.
There are multiple products on the market which can be added to distilled 
water to add minerals back in, but I do not use any of them myself.
If your mouth is dry overnight, you probably are getting dehydrated, but 
I don't believe that is because of drinking DW. I get dry mouth overnight 
but have done for umpty ump years, decades before I ever tasted a drop of 
DW. My husband has dry mouth and he doesn't drink any DW.

sol

Leslie wrote:
I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra 
minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like 
Chlorine.



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Re: CS>H202 - again

[Bob Banever]

Elizabeth,

Here is a link to the least expensive remineralizing filter I've seen.  
It contains coral which is made from ionic minerals.

http://www.purewatersite.com/2quot-x-10quot-alkaline-ph-up-sea-coral-remineralization-filter-pw21010.html

   There are many others, some costing several hundred dollars each.  
Google remineralizing water filters for more info.

Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: Elizabeth Williams 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 3:52 PM
  Subject: RE: CS>H202 - again


  I have a question, I also have a reverse osmosis system but the company I 
have mine from doesnt offer a remineralizing stage, might you know where I 
could purchase one of these?

  Elizabeth Williams
  belzi...@hotmail.com



   
  > From: bbane...@earthlink.net
  > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  > Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again
  > Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 15:37:11 -0700
  > 
  > 
  > You can remove fluoride from your drinking water with a good (at least 6 
  > stage) reverse osmosis filtration system. I have a remineralizing filter as 
  > the last stage in mine to add trace minerals lost in the filtration. These 
  > are usually volcanic or clay minerals that do not contain fluoride. Good 
  > luck
  > 
  > Bob


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Re: CS>H202 - again

[cking001]

The theory is a bit controversial.

Consider where you get most of your bioavailable minerals
from...(hint...FOOD).
Water is a minor source.

Chuck
If you don't cook you get a raw deal every meal!



On 4/17/2010 3:29:49 PM, needling around (ptf2...@bellsouth.net)
wrote:
> I have read that distilled water not only does not provide the body with
> minerals but actually acts as a magnet and draws them out of the body.  I
> 
> read this a long time ago and it seemed plausible.
> PT
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Leslie" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 3:12 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again
> 
> 
> >I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra
> >minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine.


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RE: CS>H202 - again

[Elizabeth Williams]

I have a question, I also have a reverse osmosis system but the company I have 
mine from doesnt offer a remineralizing stage, might you know where I could 
purchase one of these?

Elizabeth Williams
belzi...@hotmail.com



 
> From: bbane...@earthlink.net
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again
> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 15:37:11 -0700
> 
> 
> You can remove fluoride from your drinking water with a good (at least 6 
> stage) reverse osmosis filtration system. I have a remineralizing filter as 
> the last stage in mine to add trace minerals lost in the filtration. These 
> are usually volcanic or clay minerals that do not contain fluoride. Good 
> luck
> 
> Bob
  
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Re: CS>H202 - again

[Bob Banever]

sol,

  You can remove fluoride from your drinking water with a good (at least 6 
stage) reverse osmosis filtration system.  I have a remineralizing filter as 
the last stage in mine to add trace minerals lost in the filtration.  These 
are usually volcanic or clay minerals that do not contain fluoride.  Good 
luck


Bob
- Original Message - 
From: "sol" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again


I drink only distilled water and have done for several years now. I've not 
noticed any problems with mineral levels in my annual blood work. Everyone 
has to make their own decision on this issue, but after extensive online 
research, I personally decided (for myself ) that it is better to drink 
clean water, without pesticides, cysts and spores, lead, fluoride, 
chlorine, and so forth. There is  naturally occurring fluoride in the water 
here which I do not want. Distillation is one of the very few ways of 
removing fluoride from water, regular filtering does not remove fluoride, 
that is faucet filters, shower filters, Brita type filters, none of those 
remove fluoride.
There are multiple products on the market which can be added to distilled 
water to add minerals back in, but I do not use any of them myself.
If your mouth is dry overnight, you probably are getting dehydrated, but I 
don't believe that is because of drinking DW. I get dry mouth overnight 
but have done for umpty ump years, decades before I ever tasted a drop of 
DW. My husband has dry mouth and he doesn't drink any DW.

sol

Leslie wrote:
I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra 
minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine.



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CS>Silver for astmatics

[Ronald Lowry]

I am a 60 yo male asthmatic who would like to wean himself off my asthma
meds by substituting CL via a nebulizer.I am in excellent health, but am
getting tired of supporting big pharmaand being one of their guinea
pigs. Has any one tried CL as a cure for asthma, how was it delivered, and
what were the results? Were you able to remove yourself from your
prescriptions?
Thanks
ron

Re: CS>H202 - again

[sol]

I drink only distilled water and have done for several years now. I've 
not noticed any problems with mineral levels in my annual blood work. 
Everyone has to make their own decision on this issue, but after 
extensive online research, I personally decided (for myself ) that it is 
better to drink clean water, without pesticides, cysts and spores, lead, 
fluoride, chlorine, and so forth. There is  naturally occurring fluoride 
in the water here which I do not want. Distillation is one of the very 
few ways of removing fluoride from water, regular filtering does not 
remove fluoride, that is faucet filters, shower filters, Brita type 
filters, none of those remove fluoride.
There are multiple products on the market which can be added to 
distilled water to add minerals back in, but I do not use any of them 
myself.
If your mouth is dry overnight, you probably are getting dehydrated, but 
I don't believe that is because of drinking DW. I get dry mouth 
overnight but have done for umpty ump years, decades before I ever 
tasted a drop of DW. My husband has dry mouth and he doesn't drink any DW.

sol

Leslie wrote:
I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra 
minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine.



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CS>Distilled Water??

[Tel Tofflemire]

A small amount of Distilled water will not hurt you, but it will not provide 
all the nutrients found in well water including trace minerals.  We all need 
Minerals and there is a soil I read about in Utah they sell for the minerals, 
used for livestock, gardens crops, and some people swear by it. Its called 
(Nano Azomite) One of my customers from back east said her son had Spasms , 
Ticks , & Epilepsy type seizures, all of his life and started taking small 
amounts of this stuff and has not had on since. He is now in his 40's.  We all 
know our bodies need different Elements & Minerals to be at peek condition, but 
we forget about sometimes. (You can google Nano Azomite) I am not selling mine.
 Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.





From: sol 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, April 17, 2010 11:22:58 AM
Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again

Dee,
I would personally use distilled, but then I use distilled for nearly 
everything, to avoid the contaminants in the tap water.
But the way to decide would be to consider what you plan to use that H202 for, 
and whether tap water minerals and contaminants are going to be undesireable 
for those uses.
sol

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
> Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled water when 
> making my 3% H202.  If it is alright to use tap I would rather do this, but 
> if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that.  I noticed on the 
> H202 site it just mentions water.  dee
> 
>  


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Re: CS>H202 - again

[leslie]

WOW. I was wondering as at night my mouth gets dry like I am dehydrated. 
Thanks for responding. Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: "needling around" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again


I have read that distilled water not only does not provide the body with 
minerals but actually acts as a magnet and draws them out of the body.  I 
read this a long time ago and it seemed plausible.

PT


- Original Message - 
From: "Leslie" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again


I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra 
minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine.
- Original Message - 
From: "sol" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again



Dee,
 I would personally use distilled, but then I use distilled for nearly 
everything, to avoid the contaminants in the tap water.
But the way to decide would be to consider what you plan to use that 
H202 for, and whether tap water minerals and contaminants are going to 
be undesireable for those uses.

sol

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled water 
when making my 3% H202.  If it is alright to use tap I would rather do 
this, but if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that.  I 
noticed on the H202 site it just mentions water.  dee






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Re: CS>H202 - again

[needling around]

I have read that distilled water not only does not provide the body with 
minerals but actually acts as a magnet and draws them out of the body.  I 
read this a long time ago and it seemed plausible.

PT


- Original Message - 
From: "Leslie" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again


I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra 
minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine.
- Original Message - 
From: "sol" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again



Dee,
 I would personally use distilled, but then I use distilled for nearly 
everything, to avoid the contaminants in the tap water.
But the way to decide would be to consider what you plan to use that H202 
for, and whether tap water minerals and contaminants are going to be 
undesireable for those uses.

sol

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled water 
when making my 3% H202.  If it is alright to use tap I would rather do 
this, but if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that.  I 
noticed on the H202 site it just mentions water.  dee






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Re: CS>H202 - again

[Leslie]

I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra 
minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine.
- Original Message - 
From: "sol" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again



Dee,
 I would personally use distilled, but then I use distilled for nearly 
everything, to avoid the contaminants in the tap water.
But the way to decide would be to consider what you plan to use that H202 
for, and whether tap water minerals and contaminants are going to be 
undesireable for those uses.

sol

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled water 
when making my 3% H202.  If it is alright to use tap I would rather do 
this, but if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that.  I 
noticed on the H202 site it just mentions water.  dee






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Re: CS>H202 - again

[sol]

Dee,
 I would personally use distilled, but then I use distilled for nearly 
everything, to avoid the contaminants in the tap water.
But the way to decide would be to consider what you plan to use that 
H202 for, and whether tap water minerals and contaminants are going to 
be undesireable for those uses.

sol

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled water when 
making my 3% H202.  If it is alright to use tap I would rather do this, but if 
it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that.  I noticed on the H202 
site it just mentions water.  dee

  



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Re: CS>YO YO EIS...OH~NO...IT'S DEMONIC?

[Dok Dallas]

Concur with Malcolm...ya need-to-call TOP...Royal Alchemist...ASAP!
 
Since (original) EIS...fixed-amount of Silver (Particles & Ag+ ions)..??? 
Are EXTRA-IONS originating from THE Ascorbic ACID, or DAEMONS?
LoL...why is Tom, trying to 'exOrcise' his EIS...unless, it's DEMONIC?  
 
2nd-Opinion,
Dok Dallas...
===

--- On Fri, 4/16/10, Malcolm  wrote:


From: Malcolm 
Subject: Re: CS>YO YO EIS
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, April 16, 2010, 10:01 PM


Hi,
My best guess; you're measuring the conductivity of a weak acid,
ascorbic.  It likes to interact with hydrogen peroxide.  Here's the
story from wiki, and I suspect the silver ion is just getting booted
around becoming an oxide, then an ion, etc.  Dunno; Marshall or Steve
are the chemists, but the reaction between H2O2 and ascorbic stops the
classic free-radical 'Jacob's ladder' of monoatomic oxygen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascorbic_acid

Take care, 
Malcolm

On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 21:09 -0800, poast wrote:
> I have been exercising some EIS over the past few days.
>  
> I started out with a solution that had a conductivity of about 15 uS.
>  
> I added a very small amount of ascorbic acid.  The solution turned
> amber brown, then went to grey.  However, when I held it up to
> sunlight, it was more amber, but under the kitchen light it was grey.
>  
> I then added some H2O2 and didn't think it was going to do anything,
> but the next day the solution was clear, with a good Tyndale effect.
> Conductivity is up to 25 uS.
>  
> I then added some more ascorbic acid, and once again ended up with a
> grey solution.
>  
> Add more H2O2 and after a while it clears back up.  At this point the
> conductivity of the solution was about 75 uS.
>  
> Once again I add some ascorbic acid.  This time there wasn't much of a
> reaction.  I added a little more, and after some time the solution
> turned to a light grey.
>  
> Add more H2O2 and after a while it goes clear again.  Conductivity is
> now up to 115 uS.
>  
> Added more ascorbic acid and nothing happened.  Added more and finally
> the reaction started.  Let it sit for a few hours, and once again the
> solution is slightly grey.
>  
> Add more H2O2 and after a while it goes clear again.  Conductivity is
> up to 185 uS.
>  
>  
>  
> Questions...
>  
> What is going on?
>  
> Have I worn this solution out, or is it still good for something?
>  
> Is the increase in conductivity due to the addition of the ascorbic
> acid? Or am I chemically making a higher concentration?
>  
> Is this similar to what goes on inside the body?
>  
> Is this of any use to anyone?  
>  
> It was a fun experiment, but I am not sure if it has value.  I have to
> confess that I am having too much fun.
>  
> Tom


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CS>H202 - again

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled water when 
making my 3% H202.  If it is alright to use tap I would rather do this, but if 
it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that.  I noticed on the H202 
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Re: CS>YO YO EIS

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I would love to know what you ended up with Tom!  and I worry about a couple of 
drops of H202 and a slightly yellow solution!dee

On 17 Apr 2010, at 06:09, poast wrote:

> I have been exercising some EIS over the past few days.
>  
> I started out with a solution that had a conductivity of about 15 uS.
>  
> I added a very small amount of ascorbic acid.  The solution turned amber 
> brown, then went to grey.  However, when I held it up to sunlight, it was 
> more amber, but under the kitchen light it was grey.
>  
> I then added some H2O2 and didn't think it was going to do anything, but the 
> next day the solution was clear, with a good Tyndale effect.  Conductivity is 
> up to 25 uS.
>  
> I then added some more ascorbic acid, and once again ended up with a grey 
> solution.
>  
> Add more H2O2 and after a while it clears back up.  At this point the 
> conductivity of the solution was about 75 uS.
>  
> Once again I add some ascorbic acid.  This time there wasn't much of a 
> reaction.  I added a little more, and after some time the solution turned to 
> a light grey.
>  


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