Re: CStwice distilled water

2010-08-16 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
That is definitely the problem.  This is what I did the first time I distilled 
water--I put it through a filter.  The finished water read 2.  Then I distilled 
it again--and the reading actually went up to 3!  Just use cold tap 
water...boil it in a kettle and tip it into the distiller still boiling.  When 
the first tiny bit goes into the holding vessel...tip it off.  Then just let it 
distill until the end.  Apparently, boiling the water causes the volatile gas 
to 'burn' off because it only takes gas or whatever...to make impurities.  You 
then make sure by tipping off the very first amount that comes out of the 
distiller.  dee

On 15 Aug 2010, at 21:12, needling around wrote:

 Thanks Dee.  I would still like to know why, however, the second distillation 
 is yielding crud on the bottom of the boiling pot if the water is supposed to 
 be pure.  I figured the specks were the charcoal but it doesn't seem to be a 
 problem so far.  I forgot to mention that I use filtered water that I boil 
 before I put it in the distiller.
 PT
 
 


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Re: CStwice distilled water

2010-08-16 Thread Ode Coyote



 Did you remove the post process filter?
..it'll add stuff to the water.

ode



At 11:56 AM 8/15/2010 -0400, you wrote:

Hi,
Can anyone tell me what is going on?

I have be instructed to distill water twice for a particular purpose.  I 
have discarded the first cup or so and not let the whole cycle run through 
so there is a little water left in the bottom each time.


I clean the 'pot' between each distilling.  Wiping it out well.

My questions are these.  If distilled water is supposed to be the purest 
water possible why on the second distillation do I still get debris in the 
bottom of the pot on the second processing?  Second, if it is supposed to 
be a closed system why do I seem to be losing an inordinate amount of 
water as if it is evaporating?


I guess there is a third, at the end there are a few black specks in the 
glass jug.  I am assuming these are charcoal bits.  Are they contaminating 
the distilled water?


I'm using the Love model 4 and it is new as is the process to me.

Thanks for any help you can give.
PT



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Re: CSFrom Generator to Bottle

2010-08-16 Thread MaryAnn Helland
I'm astounded that alpacas will let you *spray* into their eyes!!
MA





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Sent: Sun, August 15, 2010 8:07:47 PM
Subject: CSFrom Generator to Bottle

Thank you all for the advise in transferring my batch of CS to a bottle.
I appreciate that I don't need the amber bottles, but I use it to spray in
alpacas eyes and that works best.

Randy





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Re: CStwice distilled water

2010-08-16 Thread needling around
It is a permanently affixed filter so that option is out.  I made CS with it 
yesterday using my Silver Puppy and it worked out fine so I guess there is 
no real problem.  I have done as you suggested about the boiling and pouring 
it while still boiling and then pouring off the first cup or so and not 
letting it process to the end which someone else had written.


Thanks.
PT


- Original Message - 
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 4:50 AM
Subject: Re: CStwice distilled water


That is definitely the problem.  This is what I did the first time I 
distilled water--I put it through a filter.  The finished water read 2. 
Then I distilled it again--and the reading actually went up to 3!  Just use 
cold tap water...boil it in a kettle and tip it into the distiller still 
boiling.  When the first tiny bit goes into the holding vessel...tip it off. 
Then just let it distill until the end.  Apparently, boiling the water 
causes the volatile gas to 'burn' off because it only takes gas or 
whatever...to make impurities.  You then make sure by tipping off the very 
first amount that comes out of the distiller.  dee


On 15 Aug 2010, at 21:12, needling around wrote:

Thanks Dee.  I would still like to know why, however, the second 
distillation is yielding crud on the bottom of the boiling pot if the 
water is supposed to be pure.  I figured the specks were the charcoal but 
it doesn't seem to be a problem so far.  I forgot to mention that I use 
filtered water that I boil before I put it in the distiller.

PT





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Re: CStwice distilled water

2010-08-16 Thread needling around
I was wondering about that.  Seems to me it could add fungus if it stays wet 
between uses.


The water worked well with my Silver Puppy so I guess I'm OK.
Thanks.
PT


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From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 5:39 AM
Subject: Re: CStwice distilled water





 Did you remove the post process filter?
..it'll add stuff to the water.

ode



At 11:56 AM 8/15/2010 -0400, you wrote:

Hi,
Can anyone tell me what is going on?

I have be instructed to distill water twice for a particular purpose.  I 
have discarded the first cup or so and not let the whole cycle run through 
so there is a little water left in the bottom each time.


I clean the 'pot' between each distilling.  Wiping it out well.

My questions are these.  If distilled water is supposed to be the purest 
water possible why on the second distillation do I still get debris in the 
bottom of the pot on the second processing?  Second, if it is supposed to 
be a closed system why do I seem to be losing an inordinate amount of 
water as if it is evaporating?


I guess there is a third, at the end there are a few black specks in the 
glass jug.  I am assuming these are charcoal bits.  Are they contaminating 
the distilled water?


I'm using the Love model 4 and it is new as is the process to me.

Thanks for any help you can give.
PT



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Re: CStwice distilled water

2010-08-16 Thread Trem

Try using the method shown just above the links at the bottom of this page.
http://www.silvergen.com/links_resources.htm

How to use a tabletop water distiller to produce very low conductivity, 
high quality distilled water used to make ionic/colloidal silver water.


Trem

- Original Message - 
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: CStwice distilled water


That is definitely the problem.  This is what I did the first time I 
distilled water--I put it through a filter.  The finished water read 2. 
Then I distilled it again--and the reading actually went up to 3!  Just 
use cold tap water...boil it in a kettle and tip it into the distiller 
still boiling.  When the first tiny bit goes into the holding vessel...tip 
it off.  Then just let it distill until the end.  Apparently, boiling the 
water causes the volatile gas to 'burn' off because it only takes gas or 
whatever...to make impurities.  You then make sure by tipping off the very 
first amount that comes out of the distiller.  dee


On 15 Aug 2010, at 21:12, needling around wrote:

Thanks Dee.  I would still like to know why, however, the second 
distillation is yielding crud on the bottom of the boiling pot if the 
water is supposed to be pure.  I figured the specks were the charcoal but 
it doesn't seem to be a problem so far.  I forgot to mention that I use 
filtered water that I boil before I put it in the distiller.

PT





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Re: CSFrom Generator to Bottle

2010-08-16 Thread jaxi
My cat acts like I am torturing her.  But I think she realizes it has helped
her.  One of her eyes had been really runny and a bit red/inflamed.  Not
sure if she had scratched it or what, but it wasn't improving.  Then came
EIS.  All healed up and looking awesome.

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 5:03 AM, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.netwrote:

  I'm astounded that alpacas will let you *spray* into their eyes!!
 MA

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 *Subject:* CSFrom Generator to Bottle

 Thank you all for the advise in transferring my batch of CS to a bottle.
 I appreciate that I don't need the amber bottles, but I use it to spray in
 alpacas eyes and that works best.

 Randy





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Re: CStwice distilled water

2010-08-16 Thread jaxi
You would have to be able to change out the filter media - so you must be
able to remove the media at least even if the housing cannot be removed.
Does that make sense?

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 7:33 AM, needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.netwrote:

 It is a permanently affixed filter so that option is out.  I made CS with
 it yesterday using my Silver Puppy and it worked out fine so I guess there
 is no real problem.  I have done as you suggested about the boiling and
 pouring it while still boiling and then pouring off the first cup or so and
 not letting it process to the end which someone else had written.

 Thanks.

 PT


 - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 4:50 AM

 Subject: Re: CStwice distilled water


 That is definitely the problem.  This is what I did the first time I
 distilled water--I put it through a filter.  The finished water read 2. Then
 I distilled it again--and the reading actually went up to 3!  Just use cold
 tap water...boil it in a kettle and tip it into the distiller still boiling.
  When the first tiny bit goes into the holding vessel...tip it off. Then
 just let it distill until the end.  Apparently, boiling the water causes the
 volatile gas to 'burn' off because it only takes gas or whatever...to make
 impurities.  You then make sure by tipping off the very first amount that
 comes out of the distiller.  dee

 On 15 Aug 2010, at 21:12, needling around wrote:

 Thanks Dee.  I would still like to know why, however, the second
 distillation is yielding crud on the bottom of the boiling pot if the water
 is supposed to be pure.  I figured the specks were the charcoal but it
 doesn't seem to be a problem so far.  I forgot to mention that I use
 filtered water that I boil before I put it in the distiller.
 PT




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Re: CStwice distilled water

2010-08-16 Thread jaxi
Found it ... see below.  Question - if using RO water to start would you
still need to double distill?  I haven't bought my distiller yet but it
begins to seem like a hell of a lot more work to make the distilled water
than it is to make the EIS.

Jaxi
**
*How to use a tabletop water distiller to produce very low conductivity,
high quality distilled water used to make ionic/colloidal silver water.*

1.Remove the carbon discharge filter.  It makes the water conductive.

2.Fill the boiling chamber no more than 3/4 full.

3.Distill only 1/2 gallon into the receiver.

4.Discard the remainder in the boiling chamber.

5.Repeat steps 2,3 and 4.  You now have one gallon in the receiver.

6.Put 3/4 gallon of this water in the boiling chamber.

7.Distill only 1/2 gallon into the receiver.

You now have what is called double distilled water.

Allow to cool and try to use it.  It should measure less than 1 microsiemen
using a PWT meter..

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Trem t...@silvergen.com wrote:

 Try using the method shown just above the links at the bottom of this page.
 http://www.silvergen.com/links_resources.htm

 How to use a tabletop water distiller to produce very low conductivity,
 high quality distilled water used to make ionic/colloidal silver water.

 Trem





Re: CStwice distilled water

2010-08-16 Thread needling around
Thank you to everyone who responded to my questions.  They have helped.  I will 
be removing the discharge filter.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: jaxi 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:39 AM
  Subject: Re: CStwice distilled water


  Found it ... see below.  Question - if using RO water to start would you 
still need to double distill?  I haven't bought my distiller yet but it 
begins to seem like a hell of a lot more work to make the distilled water than 
it is to make the EIS.

  Jaxi

  How to use a tabletop water distiller to produce very low conductivity, high 
quality distilled water used to make ionic/colloidal silver water.
  1.Remove the carbon discharge filter.  It makes the water conductive.

  2.Fill the boiling chamber no more than 3/4 full.

  3.Distill only 1/2 gallon into the receiver.

  4.Discard the remainder in the boiling chamber.

  5.Repeat steps 2,3 and 4.  You now have one gallon in the receiver.

  6.Put 3/4 gallon of this water in the boiling chamber.

  7.Distill only 1/2 gallon into the receiver.

  You now have what is called double distilled water.

  Allow to cool and try to use it.  It should measure less than 1 microsiemen 
using a PWT meter..



  On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Trem t...@silvergen.com wrote:

Try using the method shown just above the links at the bottom of this page.
http://www.silvergen.com/links_resources.htm

How to use a tabletop water distiller to produce very low conductivity, 
high quality distilled water used to make ionic/colloidal silver water.

Trem 

 

Re: CStwice distilled water

2010-08-16 Thread Trem
Sometimes following steps 1 through 4 is good enough.  All steps are for making 
the best end product.  Starting with RO is a good first step since much most 
minerals are removed but it migh also be OK starting with tap water.  
Experiment and you'll soon know.

Trem


  - Original Message - 
  From: jaxi 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 8:39 AM
  Subject: Re: CStwice distilled water


  Found it ... see below.  Question - if using RO water to start would you 
still need to double distill?  I haven't bought my distiller yet but it 
begins to seem like a hell of a lot more work to make the distilled water than 
it is to make the EIS.

  Jaxi

  How to use a tabletop water distiller to produce very low conductivity, high 
quality distilled water used to make ionic/colloidal silver water.
  1.Remove the carbon discharge filter.  It makes the water conductive.

  2.Fill the boiling chamber no more than 3/4 full.

  3.Distill only 1/2 gallon into the receiver.

  4.Discard the remainder in the boiling chamber.

  5.Repeat steps 2,3 and 4.  You now have one gallon in the receiver.

  6.Put 3/4 gallon of this water in the boiling chamber.

  7.Distill only 1/2 gallon into the receiver.

  You now have what is called double distilled water.

  Allow to cool and try to use it.  It should measure less than 1 microsiemen 
using a PWT meter..



  On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Trem t...@silvergen.com wrote:

Try using the method shown just above the links at the bottom of this page.
http://www.silvergen.com/links_resources.htm

How to use a tabletop water distiller to produce very low conductivity, 
high quality distilled water used to make ionic/colloidal silver water.

Trem 

 


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CSpederson's silver

2010-08-16 Thread Leo Regehr
Does anyone have personal experience with the silver product developed by Dr. 
Gordon Pederson at 
http://www.guardian-silver-health-supplements.com/learning/video/gordon-pedersen-silver-solution/?
Is there any way a layman could produce a product like it?
Leo

CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #687

2010-08-16 Thread Leo Regehr
Does anyone have experience with Dr. Gordon Pedersen's CS?
Leo


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  To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 10:04 AM
  Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #687



Re: CStwice distilled water

2010-08-16 Thread needling around
Actually, the CS that I made with the water turned out OK.  What I am 
interested in is how water that has been distilled can still be producing 
contaminants?  It was my understanding that once it was distilled it is 
contaminant free.
Thanks.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: Trem 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 12:38 PM
  Subject: Re: CStwice distilled water


  Sometimes following steps 1 through 4 is good enough.  All steps are for 
making the best end product.  Starting with RO is a good first step since much 
most minerals are removed but it migh also be OK starting with tap water.  
Experiment and you'll soon know.

  Trem


- Original Message - 
From: jaxi 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: CStwice distilled water


Found it ... see below.  Question - if using RO water to start would you 
still need to double distill?  I haven't bought my distiller yet but it 
begins to seem like a hell of a lot more work to make the distilled water than 
it is to make the EIS.

Jaxi

How to use a tabletop water distiller to produce very low conductivity, 
high quality distilled water used to make ionic/colloidal silver water.
1.Remove the carbon discharge filter.  It makes the water conductive.

2.Fill the boiling chamber no more than 3/4 full.

3.Distill only 1/2 gallon into the receiver.

4.Discard the remainder in the boiling chamber.

5.Repeat steps 2,3 and 4.  You now have one gallon in the receiver.

6.Put 3/4 gallon of this water in the boiling chamber.

7.Distill only 1/2 gallon into the receiver.

You now have what is called double distilled water.

Allow to cool and try to use it.  It should measure less than 1 microsiemen 
using a PWT meter..



On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Trem t...@silvergen.com wrote:

  Try using the method shown just above the links at the bottom of this 
page.
  http://www.silvergen.com/links_resources.htm

  How to use a tabletop water distiller to produce very low conductivity, 
high quality distilled water used to make ionic/colloidal silver water.

  Trem 

   






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CSDr. Godon Pedersen's CS

2010-08-16 Thread Leo Regehr
Does anyone have experience with Dr. Godon Pedersen's CS?
Leo

Re: CSRE: Urea for dry skin Turpentine

2010-08-16 Thread Rowena
 Tar water used to be a valued remedy.  Turpentine also.  The pinenes 
in the pine oil or sap are effective remedies for many maladies.

R




When I was 12 the docs put tar all over me, trouble was they did not 
know how to get it off, I must say it was extremely painful, they used 
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Re: CStwice distilled water

2010-08-16 Thread Trem
The reason for double distillation is to remove most of the caontamimamts 
(minerals)  The water is not producing contaminants.  They were in it to start 
with.

Trem


  - Original Message - 
  From: needling around 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 9:49 AM
  Subject: Re: CStwice distilled water


  Actually, the CS that I made with the water turned out OK.  What I am 
interested in is how water that has been distilled can still be producing 
contaminants?  It was my understanding that once it was distilled it is 
contaminant free.
  Thanks.
  PT
- Original Message - 
From: Trem 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: CStwice distilled water


Sometimes following steps 1 through 4 is good enough.  All steps are for 
making the best end product.  Starting with RO is a good first step since much 
most minerals are removed but it migh also be OK starting with tap water.  
Experiment and you'll soon know.

Trem


  - Original Message - 
  From: jaxi 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 8:39 AM
  Subject: Re: CStwice distilled water


  Found it ... see below.  Question - if using RO water to start would you 
still need to double distill?  I haven't bought my distiller yet but it 
begins to seem like a hell of a lot more work to make the distilled water than 
it is to make the EIS.

  Jaxi

  How to use a tabletop water distiller to produce very low conductivity, 
high quality distilled water used to make ionic/colloidal silver water.
  1.Remove the carbon discharge filter.  It makes the water conductive.

  2.Fill the boiling chamber no more than 3/4 full.

  3.Distill only 1/2 gallon into the receiver.

  4.Discard the remainder in the boiling chamber.

  5.Repeat steps 2,3 and 4.  You now have one gallon in the receiver.

  6.Put 3/4 gallon of this water in the boiling chamber.

  7.Distill only 1/2 gallon into the receiver.

  You now have what is called double distilled water.

  Allow to cool and try to use it.  It should measure less than 1 
microsiemen using a PWT meter..



  On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Trem t...@silvergen.com wrote:

Try using the method shown just above the links at the bottom of this 
page.
http://www.silvergen.com/links_resources.htm

How to use a tabletop water distiller to produce very low 
conductivity, high quality distilled water used to make ionic/colloidal silver 
water.

Trem 

 


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Re: CSDr. Godon Pedersen's CS

2010-08-16 Thread j petras
Can anyone substantiate whether Silver Sol is, indeed, NOT a colloidal or an 
ionic form of silver as Pedersen claims?..that it is something different, ie., 
a better product. It's a sales ploy as old as the hills to differentiate yor 
product from others but, I would be interested to verify if there's actually 
science behind that claim.
And the claim that other forms of silver (other than Silver Sol)  can bind to 
fat in the body, very possibly causing them to build up in the system.
Any verification via some CS link citing research or scientific study would be 
much appreciated.
Best,John 
--- On Mon, 8/16/10, Leo Regehr leoel...@telus.net wrote:

From: Leo Regehr leoel...@telus.net
Subject: CSDr. Godon Pedersen's CS
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 12:59 PM



 
 


 
Does anyone have experience with Dr. Godon Pedersen's 
CS?
Leo 



  

CSSinuses - neti pot?

2010-08-16 Thread jaxi
Does anyone use EIS in a neti pot for sinuses?  Straight EIS?  EIS with a
little DMSO?  Other combo?

I know some use it in a nasal mister/sprayer - just thinking a neti pot
would get the EIS to all of the sinus areas and flood all surfaces -
hopefully knocking out any nasties in the process.

Also wondered if it might help with some protection from airborn allergens.

Thoughts? Reactions?  Just wondering what folks think and/or have tried.

Jaxi


Re: CStwice distilled water

2010-08-16 Thread needling around
Thanks.  I understand that but once you distill it aren't they all supposed to 
be gone?  The reason I double distilled it was because the homeopath wants it 
totally destructured before I use it.  I thought singly distilled water was the 
purest water there was.  I was surprised that it still contained contaminants.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: Trem 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 1:36 PM
  Subject: Re: CStwice distilled water


  The reason for double distillation is to remove most of the caontamimamts 
(minerals)  The water is not producing contaminants.  They were in it to start 
with.

  Trem


- Original Message - 
From: needling around 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: CStwice distilled water


Actually, the CS that I made with the water turned out OK.  What I am 
interested in is how water that has been distilled can still be producing 
contaminants?  It was my understanding that once it was distilled it is 
contaminant free.
Thanks.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: Trem 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 12:38 PM
  Subject: Re: CStwice distilled water


  Sometimes following steps 1 through 4 is good enough.  All steps are for 
making the best end product.  Starting with RO is a good first step since much 
most minerals are removed but it migh also be OK starting with tap water.  
Experiment and you'll soon know.

  Trem


- Original Message - 
From: jaxi 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: CStwice distilled water


Found it ... see below.  Question - if using RO water to start would 
you still need to double distill?  I haven't bought my distiller yet but it 
begins to seem like a hell of a lot more work to make the distilled water than 
it is to make the EIS.

Jaxi

How to use a tabletop water distiller to produce very low conductivity, 
high quality distilled water used to make ionic/colloidal silver water.
1.Remove the carbon discharge filter.  It makes the water 
conductive.

2.Fill the boiling chamber no more than 3/4 full.

3.Distill only 1/2 gallon into the receiver.

4.Discard the remainder in the boiling chamber.

5.Repeat steps 2,3 and 4.  You now have one gallon in the receiver.

6.Put 3/4 gallon of this water in the boiling chamber.

7.Distill only 1/2 gallon into the receiver.

You now have what is called double distilled water.

Allow to cool and try to use it.  It should measure less than 1 
microsiemen using a PWT meter..



On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Trem t...@silvergen.com wrote:

  Try using the method shown just above the links at the bottom of this 
page.
  http://www.silvergen.com/links_resources.htm

  How to use a tabletop water distiller to produce very low 
conductivity, high quality distilled water used to make ionic/colloidal silver 
water.

  Trem 

   






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Re: CSFrom Generator to Bottle

2010-08-16 Thread MaryAnn Helland
No surprise there!  ;-)
MA





From: jaxi jaxi.sch...@gmail.com

My cat acts like I am torturing her.  But I think she realizes it has helped 
her.  One of her eyes had been really runny and a bit red/inflamed.  Not sure 
if 
she had scratched it or what, but it wasn't improving.  Then came EIS.  All 
healed up and looking awesome.


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wrote:

I'm astounded that alpacas will let you *spray* into their eyes!!
MA





From: ra...@shavetailalpaca.com ra...@shavetailalpaca.com

Thank you all for the advise in transferring my batch of CS to a bottle.
I appreciate that I don't need the amber bottles, but I use it to spray in
alpacas eyes and that works best.

Randy





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Re: CStwice distilled water

2010-08-16 Thread M. G. Devour
Dear PT,

 What I am interested in is how water that has been distilled can still
 be producing contaminants?  It was my understanding that once it was
 distilled it is contaminant free. 

People used to use double distilled water when it had to be absolutely 
as pure as possible. Nowadays, there are (big and expensive) systems of 
cartridges used in lab and industrial settings that produce extremely 
pure deionized water that is appropriate for those applications.

For us, double distilled is the most approachable way to get to that 
level of purity... though you should ask yourself if you *really* need 
that purity or if it's overkill.

Why wouldn't the first distillation cycle get everything?

Well, to start with, we've already talked about tossing off the first 
bits of water from the distiller to get rid of any volatiles that came 
off with the water and remain dissolved in the distillate. 

Then we learned to leave behind the last of the water, rather than 
boiling it off completely. This means that the resevoir doesn't need to 
boil dry and get hotter in order for the temperature switch to 
automatically shut down the heater. That makes it easier to clean out, 
I'm sure, but *also* means that some of the higher boiling point 
contaminants don't get a chance to evaporate and join with the last of 
the condensate to contaminate the batch.

Both of these methods allow you to capture the purest portion of the 
output stream.

Then there's not filling it all the way, which avoids the obvious 
problem of boiling water *splashing* into the condenser.

The thing is that all of these processes are continuous... All the 
volatiles don't come off at the same temperature or infinitely quickly, 
and all of the possible contaminants have a perhaps small, but finite 
and measurable evaporation rate at whatever temperature you're 
operating. So, the whole while the water is being evaporated, at least 
some traces of these other things are also making it across to the 
output.

So a second cycle of distillation, just as carefully done as the first 
(and *without* the output filter! grin) will simply take those 
contaminant levels down by *another* factor of however many orders of 
magnitude they came down with the first cycle, or at least close.  

I hope that makes sense?

Peace,

Mike D.

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[mdev...@eskimo.com]
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Re: CStwice distilled water

2010-08-16 Thread needling around

Hi Mike,
It does... and thank you for taking the time to write it out.  I guess I was 
naive to think one distilling would totally purify everything.  What you 
have written (except for the output filter) is pretty much what I have been 
doing.  I am told I need this level of purity for the homeopathic remedies I 
will be adding to the water.  I'm told any lingering resonance would have an 
effect on them and so it is necessary to destructure the water.


Thank you again for your assistance.
PT


- Original Message - 
From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: CStwice distilled water



Dear PT,


What I am interested in is how water that has been distilled can still
be producing contaminants?  It was my understanding that once it was
distilled it is contaminant free.


People used to use double distilled water when it had to be absolutely
as pure as possible. Nowadays, there are (big and expensive) systems of
cartridges used in lab and industrial settings that produce extremely
pure deionized water that is appropriate for those applications.

For us, double distilled is the most approachable way to get to that
level of purity... though you should ask yourself if you *really* need
that purity or if it's overkill.

Why wouldn't the first distillation cycle get everything?

Well, to start with, we've already talked about tossing off the first
bits of water from the distiller to get rid of any volatiles that came
off with the water and remain dissolved in the distillate.

Then we learned to leave behind the last of the water, rather than
boiling it off completely. This means that the resevoir doesn't need to
boil dry and get hotter in order for the temperature switch to
automatically shut down the heater. That makes it easier to clean out,
I'm sure, but *also* means that some of the higher boiling point
contaminants don't get a chance to evaporate and join with the last of
the condensate to contaminate the batch.

Both of these methods allow you to capture the purest portion of the
output stream.

Then there's not filling it all the way, which avoids the obvious
problem of boiling water *splashing* into the condenser.

The thing is that all of these processes are continuous... All the
volatiles don't come off at the same temperature or infinitely quickly,
and all of the possible contaminants have a perhaps small, but finite
and measurable evaporation rate at whatever temperature you're
operating. So, the whole while the water is being evaporated, at least
some traces of these other things are also making it across to the
output.

So a second cycle of distillation, just as carefully done as the first
(and *without* the output filter! grin) will simply take those
contaminant levels down by *another* factor of however many orders of
magnitude they came down with the first cycle, or at least close.

I hope that makes sense?

Peace,

Mike D.

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[mdev...@eskimo.com]
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CStar water

2010-08-16 Thread Shirley Reed
   On www.books.google.com      and then click on 'advanced search'  The book 
is called Siris:  A Philosophical    by George Berkeley  the author tells 
how tar water is usually made, then how he makes it, all beginning on page 4!!  
 There is a full view version that can be downloaded in its entirety.  All 
free.  Click the 'full view' button before searching.   pj 






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CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #687

2010-08-16 Thread Melly Bag
Dee,
 
What type and brand of distiller do you use?  I've been thinking of buying one, 
just couldn't figure out which brand to buy.
 
Thanks.
 
melly

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From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com
Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #687
To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 12:04 PM



Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #687

2010-08-16 Thread needling around
I'm not Dee but I just went through all that and decided on a Love Model 4.
Good luck.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: Melly Bag 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 7:03 PM
  Subject: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #687


Dee,

What type and brand of distiller do you use?  I've been thinking of 
buying one, just couldn't figure out which brand to buy.

Thanks.

melly

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silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote:


  From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com 
silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com
  Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #687
  To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com
  Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 12:04 PM

   


Re: CStwice distilled water

2010-08-16 Thread Trem
The Alchemists distilled 7 times to assure complete demineralization

Trem


  - Original Message - 
  From: needling around 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:36 AM
  Subject: Re: CStwice distilled water


  Thanks.  I understand that but once you distill it aren't they all supposed 
to be gone?  The reason I double distilled it was because the homeopath wants 
it totally destructured before I use it.  I thought singly distilled water was 
the purest water there was.  I was surprised that it still contained 
contaminants.
  PT
- Original Message - 
From: Trem 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: CStwice distilled water


The reason for double distillation is to remove most of the caontamimamts 
(minerals)  The water is not producing contaminants.  They were in it to start 
with.

Trem


  - Original Message - 
  From: needling around 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 9:49 AM
  Subject: Re: CStwice distilled water


  Actually, the CS that I made with the water turned out OK.  What I am 
interested in is how water that has been distilled can still be producing 
contaminants?  It was my understanding that once it was distilled it is 
contaminant free.
  Thanks.
  PT
- Original Message - 
From: Trem 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: CStwice distilled water


Sometimes following steps 1 through 4 is good enough.  All steps are 
for making the best end product.  Starting with RO is a good first step since 
much most minerals are removed but it migh also be OK starting with tap water.  
Experiment and you'll soon know.

Trem


  - Original Message - 
  From: jaxi 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 8:39 AM
  Subject: Re: CStwice distilled water


  Found it ... see below.  Question - if using RO water to start would 
you still need to double distill?  I haven't bought my distiller yet but it 
begins to seem like a hell of a lot more work to make the distilled water than 
it is to make the EIS.

  Jaxi

  How to use a tabletop water distiller to produce very low 
conductivity, high quality distilled water used to make ionic/colloidal silver 
water.
  1.Remove the carbon discharge filter.  It makes the water 
conductive.

  2.Fill the boiling chamber no more than 3/4 full.

  3.Distill only 1/2 gallon into the receiver.

  4.Discard the remainder in the boiling chamber.

  5.Repeat steps 2,3 and 4.  You now have one gallon in the 
receiver.

  6.Put 3/4 gallon of this water in the boiling chamber.

  7.Distill only 1/2 gallon into the receiver.

  You now have what is called double distilled water.

  Allow to cool and try to use it.  It should measure less than 1 
microsiemen using a PWT meter..



  On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Trem t...@silvergen.com wrote:

Try using the method shown just above the links at the bottom of 
this page.
http://www.silvergen.com/links_resources.htm

How to use a tabletop water distiller to produce very low 
conductivity, high quality distilled water used to make ionic/colloidal silver 
water.

Trem 

 


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Re: CStwice distilled water

2010-08-16 Thread Frank

Hi guys let me add my two cents as a chemist.
In the old days double distillation was done to ensure a better job in 
removing the last traces of solutes carried out into the condensate by means 
of steam carry-over and also to dissipate the dissolved gases.
However, if one follows good laboratory practices this second step is 
totally unnecessary.
Firstly, once the evaporation begins, one should reduce the amount of heat 
applied just to keep the boiling going, otherwise one increases the risk of 
steam carry over.
Secondly, one needs to add evaporation beads to avoid tumultuous boiling , 
another possible source of contamination.
Thirdly, one needs to start with about one third to one half more water than 
what is  required to avoid evaporating the tailings (where the contaminants 
concentrate as the evaporation progresses)
It is important to check the thermometer. If the raw water is contaminated 
the contaminants may be steam distilled into the condensate; the temperature 
reading will confirm that.
One begins to collect distilled water only when the thermometer reflects 100 
C. and stops collecting when there is 1/3 left of the original volume.
Finally,  if the system is cooled with tap water make sure you turn the cold 
water before the evaporation begins to avoid steam from reaching the 
condensate and make sure there are no leaks of the cooling water into the 
condensate.

That was forty years ago I hope I did not forget anything.
Cheers
Frank
--
From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 7:27 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CStwice distilled water


Dear PT,


What I am interested in is how water that has been distilled can still
be producing contaminants?  It was my understanding that once it was
distilled it is contaminant free.


People used to use double distilled water when it had to be absolutely
as pure as possible. Nowadays, there are (big and expensive) systems of
cartridges used in lab and industrial settings that produce extremely
pure deionized water that is appropriate for those applications.

For us, double distilled is the most approachable way to get to that
level of purity... though you should ask yourself if you *really* need
that purity or if it's overkill.

Why wouldn't the first distillation cycle get everything?

Well, to start with, we've already talked about tossing off the first
bits of water from the distiller to get rid of any volatiles that came
off with the water and remain dissolved in the distillate.

Then we learned to leave behind the last of the water, rather than
boiling it off completely. This means that the resevoir doesn't need to
boil dry and get hotter in order for the temperature switch to
automatically shut down the heater. That makes it easier to clean out,
I'm sure, but *also* means that some of the higher boiling point
contaminants don't get a chance to evaporate and join with the last of
the condensate to contaminate the batch.

Both of these methods allow you to capture the purest portion of the
output stream.

Then there's not filling it all the way, which avoids the obvious
problem of boiling water *splashing* into the condenser.

The thing is that all of these processes are continuous... All the
volatiles don't come off at the same temperature or infinitely quickly,
and all of the possible contaminants have a perhaps small, but finite
and measurable evaporation rate at whatever temperature you're
operating. So, the whole while the water is being evaporated, at least
some traces of these other things are also making it across to the
output.

So a second cycle of distillation, just as carefully done as the first
(and *without* the output filter! grin) will simply take those
contaminant levels down by *another* factor of however many orders of
magnitude they came down with the first cycle, or at least close.

I hope that makes sense?

Peace,

Mike D.

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself...   ]


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Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #687

2010-08-16 Thread jaxi
I've been bidding on that model on ebay ... keep hoping to get it for the
price I want to pay but people keep outbidding me.

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 6:05 PM, needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.netwrote:

  I'm not Dee but I just went through all that and decided on a Love Model
 4.
 Good luck.
 PT

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Melly Bag tita_...@yahoo.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Monday, August 16, 2010 7:03 PM
 *Subject:* CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #687

   Dee,

 What type and brand of distiller do you use?  I've been thinking of buying
 one, just couldn't figure out which brand to buy.

 Thanks.

 melly

 --- On *Mon, 8/16/10, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com 
 silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com* wrote:


 From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com
 Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #687
 To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 12:04 PM




Re: CStwice distilled water

2010-08-16 Thread needling around
Thanks Frank but home distillation units are basically 'plug and play'.  The 
only control I have is to unplug it when I want to turn it off (the on 
switch is not also an off switch).

PT


- Original Message - 
From: Frank frankcuns-r...@comcast.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: CStwice distilled water



Hi guys let me add my two cents as a chemist.
In the old days double distillation was done to ensure a better job in 
removing the last traces of solutes carried out into the condensate by 
means of steam carry-over and also to dissipate the dissolved gases.
However, if one follows good laboratory practices this second step is 
totally unnecessary.
Firstly, once the evaporation begins, one should reduce the amount of heat 
applied just to keep the boiling going, otherwise one increases the risk 
of steam carry over.
Secondly, one needs to add evaporation beads to avoid tumultuous boiling , 
another possible source of contamination.
Thirdly, one needs to start with about one third to one half more water 
than what is  required to avoid evaporating the tailings (where the 
contaminants concentrate as the evaporation progresses)
It is important to check the thermometer. If the raw water is contaminated 
the contaminants may be steam distilled into the condensate; the 
temperature reading will confirm that.
One begins to collect distilled water only when the thermometer reflects 
100 C. and stops collecting when there is 1/3 left of the original volume.
Finally,  if the system is cooled with tap water make sure you turn the 
cold water before the evaporation begins to avoid steam from reaching the 
condensate and make sure there are no leaks of the cooling water into the 
condensate.

That was forty years ago I hope I did not forget anything.
Cheers
Frank
--
From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 7:27 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CStwice distilled water


Dear PT,


What I am interested in is how water that has been distilled can still
be producing contaminants?  It was my understanding that once it was
distilled it is contaminant free.


People used to use double distilled water when it had to be absolutely
as pure as possible. Nowadays, there are (big and expensive) systems of
cartridges used in lab and industrial settings that produce extremely
pure deionized water that is appropriate for those applications.

For us, double distilled is the most approachable way to get to that
level of purity... though you should ask yourself if you *really* need
that purity or if it's overkill.

Why wouldn't the first distillation cycle get everything?

Well, to start with, we've already talked about tossing off the first
bits of water from the distiller to get rid of any volatiles that came
off with the water and remain dissolved in the distillate.

Then we learned to leave behind the last of the water, rather than
boiling it off completely. This means that the resevoir doesn't need to
boil dry and get hotter in order for the temperature switch to
automatically shut down the heater. That makes it easier to clean out,
I'm sure, but *also* means that some of the higher boiling point
contaminants don't get a chance to evaporate and join with the last of
the condensate to contaminate the batch.

Both of these methods allow you to capture the purest portion of the
output stream.

Then there's not filling it all the way, which avoids the obvious
problem of boiling water *splashing* into the condenser.

The thing is that all of these processes are continuous... All the
volatiles don't come off at the same temperature or infinitely quickly,
and all of the possible contaminants have a perhaps small, but finite
and measurable evaporation rate at whatever temperature you're
operating. So, the whole while the water is being evaporated, at least
some traces of these other things are also making it across to the
output.

So a second cycle of distillation, just as carefully done as the first
(and *without* the output filter! grin) will simply take those
contaminant levels down by *another* factor of however many orders of
magnitude they came down with the first cycle, or at least close.

I hope that makes sense?

Peace,

Mike D.

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself...   ]


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Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #687

2010-08-16 Thread needling around
You might want to try this website.  It is the one I finally ordered from and 
they reduced the shipping for a phone order.

http://www.webeatprices.com/product_info.php?products_id=1osCsid=cd96006353cf903b2bc98b810685e09a

I also mis-spoke.  I ordered the model 3 not the model 4.  I believe the 
difference is that the 3 is white and the 4 is stainless.
PT
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  From: jaxi 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 9:02 PM
  Subject: Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #687


  I've been bidding on that model on ebay ... keep hoping to get it for the 
price I want to pay but people keep outbidding me.


  On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 6:05 PM, needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net 
wrote:

I'm not Dee but I just went through all that and decided on a Love Model 4.
Good luck.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: Melly Bag 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 7:03 PM
  Subject: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #687


Dee,

What type and brand of distiller do you use?  I've been thinking of 
buying one, just couldn't figure out which brand to buy.

Thanks.

melly

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  From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com 
silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com
  Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #687
  To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com
  Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 12:04 PM

   




CSMMS email received today

2010-08-16 Thread Pam Wanveer
Hi, I received this email today.  Has anyone gotten one of these and/ 
or have any

insight?  I guess this is off topic, sorry.
Thanks, Pam




URGENT: MMS Product Recall Notice

Dear Customer,

You are receiving this email because our records indicate you may  
have purchased a product called MMS from our company at some time  
in the past.


Following discussion with FDA officials, Project GreenLife is  
effecting an immediate voluntary recall of its sodium chlorite  
solution product labeled MMS Professional - Miracle Mineral  
Solution - Premium Water Purification Drops.


Questions and answers on voluntary recall of Project GreenLife's  
sodium chlorite product:


Q. What products are affected by this recall?

A. Sodium chlorite solution, labeled as MMS Professional - Miracle  
Mineral Solution - Premium Water Purification Drops distributed by  
PGL International, LLC.  This product comes in a 4 oz green plastic  
bottle..  This recall is for all lot numbers.


Q. Why was this product recalled?

A. PGL International, LLC is initiating this voluntary recall  
because of safety concerns raised by the U.S. Food and Drug  
Administration in regards to chlorine dioxide.  As a precautionary  
measure, the company is recalling all sodium chlorite product,  
effective August 13, 2010.


Q. What should I do if I resell or have ever resold this product?

A. Quit selling this product and inform anyone you have sold this  
product to in the past by sending them a copy of this recall  
communication..


Q. What should I do if I have some of this product?

A. The FDA recommends that consumers stop using this product.   
Further distribution or use of any remaining product should cease  
immediately..  If you have any unused product, you may seal the  
container and return it to the address provided below.  Shipping  
account information will be provided upon request.  PGL will work  
with all customers to make them whole.


If you have any questions or comments, please email rec...@projectgreenlife.com 
.


PGL International, LLC
2533 N Carson St Ste 1991
Carson City, NV 89706
www.projectgreenlife.com
TOLL FREE PHONE: 888.349.9428


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Re: CSDr. Godon Pedersen's CS

2010-08-16 Thread Shar
http://www.pstca.com/silversol/index.htm


I've used Silver Sol for years.  I'm guessing it goes under different names,
like Silver Biotics and New Silver Solution also, probably sold by different
companies with differing ppm.  The manufacturer is American Biotech.

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFd=PALLp=1u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htmr=1f=Gl=50s1=7,135,195.PN.OS=PN/7,135,195RS=PN/7,135,195


Sharlene

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:31 AM, j petras jpetras...@yahoo.com wrote:

   Can anyone substantiate whether Silver Sol is, indeed, NOT a colloidal
 or an ionic form of silver as Pedersen claims?..that it is something
 different, ie., a better product. It's a sales ploy as old as the hills to
 differentiate yor product from others but, I would be interested to verify
 if there's actually science behind that claim.

 And the claim that other forms of silver (other than Silver Sol)  can bind
 to fat in the body, very possibly causing them to build up in the system.

 Any verification via some CS link citing research or scientific study would
 be much appreciated.

 Best,
 John

 --- On *Mon, 8/16/10, Leo Regehr leoel...@telus.net* wrote:


 From: Leo Regehr leoel...@telus.net
 Subject: CSDr. Godon Pedersen's CS
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 12:59 PM


  Does anyone have experience with Dr. Godon Pedersen's CS?
 Leo





CSIdeal Calcium to Magnesium Ratio is 1:1

2010-08-16 Thread Garnet_LDN

Some very compelling evidence to support the need for more Magnesium.

Heart attacks deaths are much higher in areas where the water is soft and
Mg is low relative to Ca.


Janet


http://www.enerex.ca/articles/calcium_to_magnesium_ratio.htm

The traditional ratio of approximately 2 parts calcium to 1 part 
magnesium needs to be upgraded
to increase magnesium intake in view of the overwhelming beneficial role 
of magnesium.  The
ideal ratio for most people's needs is an equal ratio of calcium and 
magnesium.



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Re: CSDr. Godon Pedersen's CS

2010-08-16 Thread j petras
Shar:
Thanks. I appreciate your forwarding the link. It has some useful info 
regarding my questions.
John
--- On Mon, 8/16/10, Shar fire888ea...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Shar fire888ea...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: CSDr. Godon Pedersen's CS
To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 9:32 PM

http://www.pstca.com/silversol/index.htm
 
 
I've used Silver Sol for years.  I'm guessing it goes under different names, 
like Silver Biotics and New Silver Solution also, probably sold by different 
companies with differing ppm.  The manufacturer is American Biotech.

 
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFd=PALLp=1u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htmr=1f=Gl=50s1=7,135,195.PN.OS=PN/7,135,195RS=PN/7,135,195

 
 
Sharlene


On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:31 AM, j petras jpetras...@yahoo.com wrote:





Can anyone substantiate whether Silver Sol is, indeed, NOT a colloidal or an 
ionic form of silver as Pedersen claims?..that it is something different, ie., 
a better product. It's a sales ploy as old as the hills to differentiate yor 
product from others but, I would be interested to verify if there's actually 
science behind that claim. 



And the claim that other forms of silver (other than Silver Sol)  can bind to 
fat in the body, very possibly causing them to build up in the system.


Any verification via some CS link citing research or scientific study would be 
much appreciated.


Best,
John 

--- On Mon, 8/16/10, Leo Regehr leoel...@telus.net wrote:


From: Leo Regehr leoel...@telus.net
Subject: CSDr. Godon Pedersen's CS

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 12:59 PM 




Does anyone have experience with Dr. Godon Pedersen's CS?
Leo





  

Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #687

2010-08-16 Thread jaxi
Well I am hoping for under $100 bucks with shipping for the model 4.  They
start the bidding at $1 ... eventually someone will not outbid me.

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:13 PM, needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.netwrote:

  You might want to try this website.  It is the one I finally ordered from
 and they reduced the shipping for a phone order.


 http://www.webeatprices.com/product_info.php?products_id=1osCsid=cd96006353cf903b2bc98b810685e09a

 I also mis-spoke.  I ordered the model 3 not the model 4.  I believe the
 difference is that the 3 is white and the 4 is stainless.
 PT

 - Original Message -
 *From:* jaxi jaxi.sch...@gmail.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Monday, August 16, 2010 9:02 PM
 *Subject:* Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #687

 I've been bidding on that model on ebay ... keep hoping to get it for the
 price I want to pay but people keep outbidding me.

 On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 6:05 PM, needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.netwrote:

  I'm not Dee but I just went through all that and decided on a Love Model
 4.
 Good luck.
 PT

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Melly Bag tita_...@yahoo.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Monday, August 16, 2010 7:03 PM
 *Subject:* CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #687

   Dee,

 What type and brand of distiller do you use?  I've been thinking of buying
 one, just couldn't figure out which brand to buy.

 Thanks.

 melly

 --- On *Mon, 8/16/10, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com 
 silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com* wrote:


 From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com
 Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #687
 To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 12:04 PM





Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #687

2010-08-16 Thread needling around
Just so you know, the model 3 and the model 4 are the same except for the 
stainless steel outer container... so I was told.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: jaxi 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 9:58 PM
  Subject: Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #687


  Well I am hoping for under $100 bucks with shipping for the model 4.  They 
start the bidding at $1 ... eventually someone will not outbid me.


  On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:13 PM, needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net 
wrote:

You might want to try this website.  It is the one I finally ordered from 
and they reduced the shipping for a phone order.


http://www.webeatprices.com/product_info.php?products_id=1osCsid=cd96006353cf903b2bc98b810685e09a

I also mis-spoke.  I ordered the model 3 not the model 4.  I believe the 
difference is that the 3 is white and the 4 is stainless.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: jaxi 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 9:02 PM
  Subject: Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #687


  I've been bidding on that model on ebay ... keep hoping to get it for the 
price I want to pay but people keep outbidding me.


  On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 6:05 PM, needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net 
wrote:

I'm not Dee but I just went through all that and decided on a Love 
Model 4.
Good luck.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: Melly Bag 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 7:03 PM
  Subject: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #687


Dee,

What type and brand of distiller do you use?  I've been 
thinking of buying one, just couldn't figure out which brand to buy.

Thanks.

melly

--- On Mon, 8/16/10, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com 
silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote:


  From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com 
silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com
  Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #687
  To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com
  Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 12:04 PM