Re: CSDry eye

2010-08-20 Thread Ode Coyote



  Unless it's caused by some micro-organism..why would it?

Ode


At 09:19 AM 8/19/2010 -1000, you wrote:

I have a friend with dry eyes.
Might CS help her ?

Smitty



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RE: CSMMS email received today

2010-08-20 Thread Ode Coyote



 Also what no one seems to know is that a Zapper produces Hypochlorous 
Acid  AND ...it's antidote, Sodium Hydroxide out of the salt in blood.
 Site specific application of germ and parasite killer , inherent 
neutralization back to salt when the two find each other 
later...and...continuous dose control.


Plus, you don't have to buy or mix anything and hope it wasn't too much 
while you wait to vomit.


Ode


At 04:40 PM 8/19/2010 -0500, you wrote:
Aahh, Tom to my rescue.  Marshall, I knew I couldn't explain it to you, 
though I've read it before from Tom's writing on the other list.  So I'm 
very glad Tom is able to discuss this here.


Samala,
Renee




---Original Message---


Hello Marshall,

You are correct in that the concentration of chlorous acid is dependent upon
the PH of the final solution, but the break down actually takes place over
several hours.  There is no method of measuring chlorine dioxide in the
blood, because it doesn't last long enough to make it into the blood stream.
Chlorite can be measured, and it does make it into the blood stream, along
with all the organs of the body.

The overlooked factor is the chlorous acid.




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Re:CSpederson's silver

2010-08-20 Thread Norton, Steve

One last point. Stomach acid will convert the silver oxide coating on the  
silver particles to either metallic silver or silver chloride. So Guardian 
Silver  pre-oxidizing their silver particles provides no benefit over any other 
colloidal silver when taken internally. 

 - Steve N

-Original Message-
From: Norton, Steve 
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 10:16 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSpederson's silver


Guardian Silver consists of primarily silver particles. All silver particles 
work by releasing silver ions and it is the silver ions that are 
anti-microbial. Silver ions are not released from pure silver. In vivo, silver 
particles form silver oxide on its surface and it is the silver oxide that 
releases silver ions and provide the anti-microbial activity. Guardian Silver 
claims to pre-oxidize their silver particles
by adding hydrogen peroxide to their CS when making it. That is the sum total 
of the uniqueness of their CS. There may be some benefit to
pre-oxidizing the silver particles vs waiting for it to happen in vivo.















Guardian Silver consists of primarily silver particles. All silver
particles work by releasing silver ions and it is the silver ions that
are anti-microbial. Silver ions are not released from pure silver. In
vivo, silver particles form silver oxide on its surface and it is the
silver oxide that releases silver ions and provide the anti-microbial
activity. Guardian Silver claims to pre-oxidize their silver particles
by adding hydrogen peroxide to their CS when making it. That is the sum
total of the uniqueness of their CS. There may be some benefit to
pre-oxidizing the silver particles vs waiting for it to happen in vivo.


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Re: CSDry eye

2010-08-20 Thread ZZekelink
 
In a message dated 8/20/2010 5:30:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
odecoy...@windstream.net writes:

At 09:19  AM 8/19/2010 -1000, you wrote:
I have a friend with dry  eyes.
Might CS help her  ?

Smitty



Hi Smitty, I used CS/EIS with some DMSO in it  it  did help for a short 
time. I know this will sound crazy but  after three  days of my left eye 
running  stinging---using over the counter eye drops {  this was after the day 
off from using the CS/ EIS DMSO---) I remembered what Mom  always did when we 
had eye problems. She would make a cup of green tea  we  put the tea bag 
on our eye --as warm as we could stand it. ,,held it  there for about 10 
mins. --
I did this 2 days ago once in the  evening -- once in the morning... 
once yesterday..This is the first  day to wake up with no problem...Wish I 
would have remembered sooner {{Even  got to have a cup of tea.. :-)  }}  
Lois


Re: CSMMS email received today

2010-08-20 Thread Renee
Hey Bob.  Tom, the chemist, is here on the list.  YOU tell him.  

I think that the key word here is BREAKS DOWN.  Wait, that's 2 words. 
Anyway--it (AMMS) makes chlorine dioxide, which eventually winds up as salt.
 The mix of AMMS also produces chlorous acid and something else, besides
chlorine. 

Samala,
Renee 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
 
 Please tell this chemist that there is NO chlorine in chlorine
dioxide.  It breaks down into salt (sodium chloride) and water in the body. 

 
 happy.gif

Re: CSpederson's silver

2010-08-20 Thread Marshall Dudley
Adding hydrogen peroxide to CS is something we have been doing for a 
long time.  It does increase the effectiveness, but not by preoxidizing. 
They got the chemistry all wrong.  You cannot preoxidize the silver on 
the particles and expect it to stay there. It has a solubility of around 
13 ppm (26 when you consider it changes back and forth between silver 
hydroxide), and will thus immediately dissolve off, making plain old 
ionic silver.  But H2O2 is not just an oxidizer, it is a redux agent, 
and not only converts the particles to silver oxide, but the silver 
oxide/hydroxide back to two atom colloidal particles. That is why it 
increases effectiveness, it breaks the colloidal particles down to the 
smallest possible units.  We have known this for years here.


Marshall

Norton, Steve wrote:
One last point. Stomach acid will convert the silver oxide coating on the  silver particles to either metallic silver or silver chloride. So Guardian Silver  pre-oxidizing their silver particles provides no benefit over any other colloidal silver when taken internally. 


 - Steve N

-Original Message-
From: Norton, Steve 
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 10:16 AM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSpederson's silver


Guardian Silver consists of primarily silver particles. All silver particles 
work by releasing silver ions and it is the silver ions that are 
anti-microbial. Silver ions are not released from pure silver. In vivo, silver 
particles form silver oxide on its surface and it is the silver oxide that 
releases silver ions and provide the anti-microbial activity. Guardian Silver 
claims to pre-oxidize their silver particles
by adding hydrogen peroxide to their CS when making it. That is the sum total 
of the uniqueness of their CS. There may be some benefit to
pre-oxidizing the silver particles vs waiting for it to happen in vivo.















Guardian Silver consists of primarily silver particles. All silver
particles work by releasing silver ions and it is the silver ions that
are anti-microbial. Silver ions are not released from pure silver. In
vivo, silver particles form silver oxide on its surface and it is the
silver oxide that releases silver ions and provide the anti-microbial
activity. Guardian Silver claims to pre-oxidize their silver particles
by adding hydrogen peroxide to their CS when making it. That is the sum
total of the uniqueness of their CS. There may be some benefit to
pre-oxidizing the silver particles vs waiting for it to happen in vivo.


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Re: EXTERNAL:Re: CSpederson's silver

2010-08-20 Thread Norton, Steve
Thanks Marshall. 
I wasn't going to argue with the patent. But since silver oxide on the 
particles should show as brown and Silver Sol (ASAP, etc) are clear it did not 
add up. 
See for the color of silver oxide 
http://www.public.asu.edu/~jpbirk/qual/qualanal/silver.html

 - Steve N

- Original Message -
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com]
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:51 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL:Re: CSpederson's silver

Adding hydrogen peroxide to CS is something we have been doing for a 
long time.  It does increase the effectiveness, but not by preoxidizing. 
They got the chemistry all wrong.  You cannot preoxidize the silver on 
the particles and expect it to stay there. It has a solubility of around 
13 ppm (26 when you consider it changes back and forth between silver 
hydroxide), and will thus immediately dissolve off, making plain old 
ionic silver.  But H2O2 is not just an oxidizer, it is a redux agent, 
and not only converts the particles to silver oxide, but the silver 
oxide/hydroxide back to two atom colloidal particles. That is why it 
increases effectiveness, it breaks the colloidal particles down to the 
smallest possible units.  We have known this for years here.

Marshall

Norton, Steve wrote:
 One last point. Stomach acid will convert the silver oxide coating on the  
 silver particles to either metallic silver or silver chloride. So Guardian 
 Silver  pre-oxidizing their silver particles provides no benefit over any 
 other colloidal silver when taken internally. 

  - Steve N

 -Original Message-
 From: Norton, Steve 
 Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 10:16 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSpederson's silver


 Guardian Silver consists of primarily silver particles. All silver particles 
 work by releasing silver ions and it is the silver ions that are 
 anti-microbial. Silver ions are not released from pure silver. In vivo, 
 silver particles form silver oxide on its surface and it is the silver oxide 
 that releases silver ions and provide the anti-microbial activity. Guardian 
 Silver claims to pre-oxidize their silver particles
 by adding hydrogen peroxide to their CS when making it. That is the sum total 
 of the uniqueness of their CS. There may be some benefit to
 pre-oxidizing the silver particles vs waiting for it to happen in vivo.















 Guardian Silver consists of primarily silver particles. All silver
 particles work by releasing silver ions and it is the silver ions that
 are anti-microbial. Silver ions are not released from pure silver. In
 vivo, silver particles form silver oxide on its surface and it is the
 silver oxide that releases silver ions and provide the anti-microbial
 activity. Guardian Silver claims to pre-oxidize their silver particles
 by adding hydrogen peroxide to their CS when making it. That is the sum
 total of the uniqueness of their CS. There may be some benefit to
 pre-oxidizing the silver particles vs waiting for it to happen in vivo.


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Re: CSSinuses - neti pot?

2010-08-20 Thread jaxi
No one?

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 1:35 PM, jaxi jaxi.sch...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does anyone use EIS in a neti pot for sinuses?  Straight EIS?  EIS with a
 little DMSO?  Other combo?

 I know some use it in a nasal mister/sprayer - just thinking a neti pot
 would get the EIS to all of the sinus areas and flood all surfaces -
 hopefully knocking out any nasties in the process.

 Also wondered if it might help with some protection from airborn allergens.

 Thoughts? Reactions?  Just wondering what folks think and/or have tried.

 Jaxi



Re: CSSinuses - neti pot?

2010-08-20 Thread Saralou

 I use whatever's handy.

The link below is offering a *free neti pot*.  Mine was delivered last 
week.  Haven't noticed an increase in spam yet. Removed them from my 
facebook settings.


//www.facebook.com/neilmednetipot?v=app_7146470109amp;ref=ts#!/neilmednetipot?v=app_7146470109amp;ref=ts


On 8/20/2010 1:05 PM, jaxi wrote:

No one?

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 1:35 PM, jaxi jaxi.sch...@gmail.com 
mailto:jaxi.sch...@gmail.com wrote:


Does anyone use EIS in a neti pot for sinuses?  Straight EIS?  EIS
with a little DMSO?  Other combo?
I know some use it in a nasal mister/sprayer - just thinking a
neti pot would get the EIS to all of the sinus areas and flood all
surfaces - hopefully knocking out any nasties in the process.
Also wondered if it might help with some protection from airborn
allergens.
Thoughts? Reactions?  Just wondering what folks think and/or have
tried.
Jaxi





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Re: CSSinuses - neti pot?

2010-08-20 Thread Paula Perry


I use one. I didn't respond because I just use it daily with filtered water and salt. It does help some.
Paula
-Original Message- From: jaxi Sent: Aug 20, 2010 1:05 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSinuses - neti pot? No one?
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 1:35 PM, jaxi jaxi.sch...@gmail.com wrote:

Does anyone use EIS in a neti pot for sinuses? Straight EIS? EIS with a little DMSO? Other combo? 

I know some use it in a nasal mister/sprayer - just thinking a neti pot would get the EIS to all of the sinus areas and flood all surfaces - hopefully knocking out any nasties in the process. 

Also wondered if it might help with some protection from airborn allergens.

Thoughts? Reactions? Just wondering what folks think and/or have tried.

Jaxi


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Re: CSSinuses - neti pot?

2010-08-20 Thread Krisstyna Holmquist
I have been using a neti pot for several years. I unfortunately have not
managed to save up to buy a generator yet to make my own CS, but I have been
using commercial stuff for a few years. I also worked in a health food store
for several years so I know a bit about what other people do as well.

When I'm having a sinus problem  always add a little CS to my water.
Probably less than a teaspoon. I would use more if  I was able to make my
own. The commercial stuff is just too expensive for me to do that. It works
awesome. I have always had good results.

I have also used another product called Neti Wash that has grapefruit seed
extract in it which can also be helpful. Many of my customers also just
added the grapefruit seed extract to theirs. I even had one customer who
said they put a little cayenne in there for a nasty infection. I personally
just prefer to use CS.

I struggled with allergy and sinus problems my whole life. The first time I
used a neti pot though, it changed my life. Allergens do get trapped in your
sinus cavities. Just spraying something up there isn't going to get all that
out. That's why neti pots are so great.

I hope this helps. I haven't posted on here before because I don't make my
own CS yet. As soon I can manage to afford it I will be buying a generator
and will use CS for many more things.

Kriss

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:05 PM, jaxi jaxi.sch...@gmail.com wrote:

 No one?


 On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 1:35 PM, jaxi jaxi.sch...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does anyone use EIS in a neti pot for sinuses?  Straight EIS?  EIS with a
 little DMSO?  Other combo?

 I know some use it in a nasal mister/sprayer - just thinking a neti pot
 would get the EIS to all of the sinus areas and flood all surfaces -
 hopefully knocking out any nasties in the process.

 Also wondered if it might help with some protection from airborn
 allergens.

 Thoughts? Reactions?  Just wondering what folks think and/or have tried.

 Jaxi





CS[List Owner] Welcome, explanation...

2010-08-20 Thread M. G. Devour
Hi everybody,

I just wanted to step in to welcome our newer members, and new posters, 
like Kriss and Laurie, and to make sure it's clear that we welcome your 
input...

Kriss wrote:
 I hope this helps. I haven't posted on here before because I don't
 make my own CS yet. As soon I can manage to afford it I will be buying
 a generator and will use CS for many more things. 

Whenever anybody asks health related questions, you're all welcome to 
offer your non-CS-related suggestions and comments as well. That way, 
the *questions* get answered and people get help, even though some of 
it might be off topic.

All that I ask is that we don't turn an off topic discussion into a 
major distraction for the group. I basically want to see ideas shared, 
initial questions answered, and useful resources pointed out so people 
have a jumping off point for exploring those other options for 
themselves.

So, feel free to share from your personal experience, things you've 
observed first hand, and information from sources you've come to trust. 

Product recommendations are okay, too, so long as you're not involved 
in selling or promoting them, but just as a user or practitioner. This 
is to preserve the non-commercial nature of the group. If you want to 
ask for an exception to that restriction, contact me privately.

If you're new and have CS-related questions, don't just wait around for 
somebody else to bring up the topic, please ask! Folks are ready and 
waiting to help you if you let them know what you need.

Peace,

Mike D.
silver-list owner

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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Re: CSDry eye

2010-08-20 Thread Smitty
Thanks for the info. . . I'll forward it.
Smitty


 *Hi Smitty, I used CS/EIS with some DMSO in it  it did help for a short
 time. I know this will sound crazy but  after three days of my left eye
 running  stinging---using over the counter eye drops { this was after the
 day off from using the CS/ EIS DMSO---) I remembered what Mom always did
 when we had eye problems. She would make a cup of green tea  we put the tea
 bag on our eye --as warm as we could stand it. ,,held it there for about 10
 mins. --*
 *I did this 2 days ago once in the evening -- once in the morning...
 once yesterday..This is the first day to wake up with no problem...Wish I
 would have remembered sooner {{Even got to have a cup of tea.. :-)  }}
 Lois*



Re: CSSinuses - neti pot?

2010-08-20 Thread jaxi
Thanks Kriss ... so you add the CS to the salt solution?  Folks that
understand the science of stuff - Would that negatively impact the CS/EIS?
I know it is not a good idea to add salt to the water before making the EIS.

I have and have used a neti pot on and off for years.  Typically with the
normal salt solution.  But now that I have all this wonderful EIS (well what
the animals leave me of it anyway) I had wondered if this might be a good
option for use.

Jaxi

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Krisstyna Holmquist dalaichic...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I have been using a neti pot for several years. I unfortunately have not
 managed to save up to buy a generator yet to make my own CS, but I have been
 using commercial stuff for a few years. I also worked in a health food store
 for several years so I know a bit about what other people do as well.

 When I'm having a sinus problem  always add a little CS to my water.
 Probably less than a teaspoon. I would use more if  I was able to make my
 own. The commercial stuff is just too expensive for me to do that. It works
 awesome. I have always had good results.

 I have also used another product called Neti Wash that has grapefruit seed
 extract in it which can also be helpful. Many of my customers also just
 added the grapefruit seed extract to theirs. I even had one customer who
 said they put a little cayenne in there for a nasty infection. I personally
 just prefer to use CS.

 I struggled with allergy and sinus problems my whole life. The first time I
 used a neti pot though, it changed my life. Allergens do get trapped in your
 sinus cavities. Just spraying something up there isn't going to get all that
 out. That's why neti pots are so great.


 I hope this helps. I haven't posted on here before because I don't make my
 own CS yet. As soon I can manage to afford it I will be buying a generator
 and will use CS for many more things.

 Kriss


 On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:05 PM, jaxi jaxi.sch...@gmail.com wrote:

 No one?


 On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 1:35 PM, jaxi jaxi.sch...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does anyone use EIS in a neti pot for sinuses?  Straight EIS?  EIS with a
 little DMSO?  Other combo?

 I know some use it in a nasal mister/sprayer - just thinking a neti pot
 would get the EIS to all of the sinus areas and flood all surfaces -
 hopefully knocking out any nasties in the process.

 Also wondered if it might help with some protection from airborn
 allergens.

 Thoughts? Reactions?  Just wondering what folks think and/or have tried.

 Jaxi






Re: CSSinuses - neti pot?

2010-08-20 Thread Krisstyna Holmquist
I do add the CS to the salt solution. Particularly when I think there's any
sort of infection. Usually with just one use it knocks out the infection.

Also, thanks for the welcome Mike. This site has taught so much about CS and
many other things. I've known CS was a great thing since the first time I
used it, but I never knew how many other things it could be used for before
joining here. So thank you to all for all your great info. I'll be sure to
add my two cents when I can!


CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #695

2010-08-20 Thread Pam Wanveer

Thanks Bob,

I put the recall email I received on the list to warn people that  
there maybe shutting off of access to MMS
around the corner and wanted to give a heads up.  It could just as  
well be a bad batch or something like

that problem.
I have used it with success too being careful not to overdo it at any  
one time.


Cheers, Pam




From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net
Date: August 19, 2010 8:18:32 PM EDT
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMMS email received today


Pam,

   Unless there is something wrong with this particular lot or  
solution I think this recall is being done because the FDA has  
scared the company into doing this.  I have used MMS for the last  
two years on and off with no side effects whatsoever other than to  
rid myself of some cold and flu germs within two days.   Perhaps  
this particular lot is too strong or is contaminated I don't  
know, but MMS is and can be a lifesaver.


Bob
- Original Message - From: Pam Wanveer woods...@hers.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 6:31 PM
Subject: CSMMS email received today


Hi, I received this email today.  Has anyone gotten one of these  
and/ or have any

insight?  I guess this is off topic, sorry.
Thanks, Pam




CSSinuses - neti pot?

2010-08-20 Thread Pam Wanveer

Hi jaxi,

I have used 1/2 EIS and 1/2 reverse osmosis purified water in my neti  
pot.  I sometimes add 1/2 tsp. sea salt.  It seems to work very well  
and be easy on the nose. I have wondered if adding the salt is a  
problem because of the posts about making EIS in salt water being a  
problem. ?


Thanks,  Pam


From: jaxi jaxi.sch...@gmail.com
Date: August 20, 2010 1:05:49 PM EDT
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSinuses - neti pot?


No one?

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 1:35 PM, jaxi jaxi.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone use EIS in a neti pot for sinuses?  Straight EIS?  EIS  
with a little DMSO?  Other combo?


I know some use it in a nasal mister/sprayer - just thinking a neti  
pot would get the EIS to all of the sinus areas and flood all  
surfaces - hopefully knocking out any nasties in the process.


Also wondered if it might help with some protection from airborn  
allergens.


Thoughts? Reactions?  Just wondering what folks think and/or have  
tried.


Jaxi





Re: CSSinuses - neti pot?

2010-08-20 Thread M. G. Devour
The only problem with adding EIS/CS to the salt water in your neti 
pot is that the silver will quickly combine with the chloride to make 
silver chloride. That's not a bad thing, and it ought to still be 
beneficial. It's sure a lot easier to handle on the nasal linings than 
straight CS!

That's in contrast to the idea of *making* CS with salt in the water. 
That drives the concentration and the particle size up *very* rapidly, 
while also producing as much silver chloride as you have salt. Abused, 
such CS has some potential for causing argyria. 

Start with low concentration CS and mix it into salt water, the 
concentration will still be in a safe range.

I've only used a neti pot some, so I hope others with more experience 
than I have will chime in to straighten me out if I'm wrong! grin

Peace,

Mike

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Re: CSPeripheral Neuropathy

2010-08-20 Thread needling around

Hi Pat,
What dosage of the ALA or Super-R Lipoic Acid are you taking, if you don't 
mind my asking?

Thanks.
PT


- Original Message - 
From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com

To: silver list silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 12:43 AM
Subject: CSPeripheral Neuropathy





Someone on another list told me this after about three months of trying 
it:  I
also wanted to thank you for recommending the Super-R Lipoic Acid for the 
pain
on the bottom of my feet. I've been taking it since February and though 
I'm not

100% better, there is a remarkable difference. No doctor has been able to
suggest anything that has come close to helping as much as this has.

Sol, I can't remember if you said you've tried ALA or R lipoic acid.  I've 
been
traveling for two months in the western part of the US, so have gotten 
behind
and still have over 200 messages to read to catch up.  We went right past 
your

neck of the woods, I think.through Rock Springs and Rawlins.  Quite
different than last time I saw them during a blizzard in winter.

Pat





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RE: CSMMS email received today

2010-08-20 Thread Lisa
Hi Renee,

I'm familiar with the MMS protocol but it's been awhile. Can you explain in
more detail (or please send a link) to the NEW dosing schedule? I'd like
to have it on hand in case I ever need it again.

Thx.
Lisa

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From: Renee [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 7:51 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMMS email received today

 


There's a big controversy over the safety of MMS as used by Jim Humble.
There is an MMS list and we have a chemist on it, who says that the vomiting
and diarrhea that comes from taking MMS the way Jim says is actually from
chlorine poisoning rather than overload of die-off.  He advocates (and uses)
a 5% strength of sodium chlorite rather than the 28% MMS.  

 

 

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RE: CSMMS email received today

2010-08-20 Thread Renee
The new Humble protocol is simply 2 to 3 drops, activated, every 2 hours. 
This helps bypass the nausea.  It's because Jim was finally convinced by the
chemists and scientists that chlorine dioxide does NOT last 12 hours in the
body.  They still say it only lasts a few minutes and he insists a few hours
  Still, the smaller amount is easier on the body, and because it doesn't
last so long in the body, keeping it in there every couple hours does help.

There's a bath protocol too.  I'd have to go searching for the link, but if
you Google Humble's site, all his info on the new protocols is there.

Then of course there is the 5% solution that is causing such a ruckus on the
MMS list, because the people that have been cured with Jim's original
protocol, and the ones doing his new protocol, believe the 5% won't work at
all and therefore anyone that even suggests this method is either 1) doing a
huge disservice to everyone and/or 2) killing people because it won't work
and they could have been saved by the original method.  shrug  it becomes
a personal choice after investigation.  I believe there's room for all of it
 but I seem to be in the minority.  People are taking sides and shooting at
each other across the fence over on that list.  Lol

Samala,
Renee 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
I’m familiar with the MMS protocol but it’s been awhile. Can you explain in 
more detail (or please send a link) to the “NEW” dosing schedule? I’d like to 
have it on hand in case I ever need it again.

Re: CSSinuses - neti pot? remember the ear canal's

2010-08-20 Thread Deborah Gerard


When I have anykind of sinus issue's I put some H202 in my ear's as well and 
that clear's up my nasal congestion,
welcome to the group Krissty,
Debbie :)



From: Krisstyna Holmquist dalaichic...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 4:55:01 PM
Subject: Re: CSSinuses - neti pot?

I do add the CS to the salt solution. Particularly when I think there's any 
sort 
of infection. Usually with just one use it knocks out the infection. 


Also, thanks for the welcome Mike. This site has taught so much about CS and 
many other things. I've known CS was a great thing since the first time I used 
it, but I never knew how many other things it could be used for before joining 
here. So thank you to all for all your great info. I'll be sure to add my two 
cents when I can!


  

Re: CSSinuses - neti pot?

2010-08-20 Thread Pam Wanveer

Thank you for the clarification on adding CS to salt water
vs making CS with salt water Mike.  I thought it was different and
therefore ok but am glad to hear some confirmation that my nose
won't turn blue only kidding!

Pam



From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Date: August 20, 2010 3:29:43 PM EDT
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSinuses - neti pot?


The only problem with adding EIS/CS to the salt water in your neti
pot is that the silver will quickly combine with the chloride to make
silver chloride. That's not a bad thing, and it ought to still be
beneficial. It's sure a lot easier to handle on the nasal linings than
straight CS!

That's in contrast to the idea of *making* CS with salt in the water.
That drives the concentration and the particle size up *very* rapidly,
while also producing as much silver chloride as you have salt. Abused,
such CS has some potential for causing argyria.

Start with low concentration CS and mix it into salt water, the
concentration will still be in a safe range.

I've only used a neti pot some, so I hope others with more experience
than I have will chime in to straighten me out if I'm wrong! grin

Peace,

Mike

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself...   ]


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Re: CSSinuses - neti pot?

2010-08-20 Thread Brickeyk
I use a jigger of eis/msm/xylitol/H2O2 + 1 1/2t salt + 1/2t baking soda + 4 
 drops DMSO + a drop of peppermint oil in 12 ounces of warm water in a DR 
Grossan  water pick morning and night. Sometimes traveling in my RV I use the 
same  mixture in a soft plastic bottle with packaged salt soda solutions. 
If I skip a  day my nose becomes plugged and have to mouth breathe with my 
CPAP. I found that  I have to flush the water pick with clear water after each 
use or else it  becomes jammed.
 
I also use the eis/msm etc. combination to flush my eyes using an eye cup.  
I take oil of oregano/olive leaf/garlic to try to keep the stomach clear of 
 fungus. 
 
Going on 5 weeks after total knee replacement and have moved to using a  
quad cane and back to 30 minutes of walking in the pool each day. My pool is 
an  above ground pool so I have to climb a 5 step latter to get in and out. 
My pool  temperature is dropping below 70 degrees so will have to walk on the 
road again  soon. I think the cool temperature helps reduce swelling, like 
an ice  pack.
Brickey
 


Re: CSSinuses - neti pot? remember the ear canal's

2010-08-20 Thread jaxi
just a few drops right into the ear?

Jaxi

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.comwrote:


 When I have anykind of sinus issue's I put some H202 in my ear's as well
 and that clear's up my nasal congestion,
 welcome to the group Krissty,
 Debbie :)
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 *From:* Krisstyna Holmquist dalaichic...@gmail.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Fri, August 20, 2010 4:55:01 PM
 *Subject:* Re: CSSinuses - neti pot?

 I do add the CS to the salt solution. Particularly when I think there's any
 sort of infection. Usually with just one use it knocks out the infection.

 Also, thanks for the welcome Mike. This site has taught so much about CS
 and many other things. I've known CS was a great thing since the first time
 I used it, but I never knew how many other things it could be used for
 before joining here. So thank you to all for all your great info. I'll be
 sure to add my two cents when I can!