CSLiposomal Vitamin C from the VitaMix blender

2010-10-04 Thread Jon
I see from the list archives that a Lot of list members have VitaMix blenders.

Is there any new info on the use of the VitaMix to make Liposomal Vitamin C?  
In particular, do we know what % of the mix achieves encapsulation?  The last 
news I saw was that the ultrasonic cleaner achieves 70% encapsulation and a 
regular household blender achieves about 20% encapsulation.

Also, do we know how the liposome particle size compares between the standard 
ultrasonic-cleaner method vs the VitaMix?

Thanks!
Jon







  

CSWARNING! from list owner

2010-10-04 Thread M. G. Devour
I'm always amazed at the difference 24 hours can make. Things weren't 
going too bad, until somebody decided they are going to try to run the 
list for me.

Robert offered what I would consider a prescription for a spiritual 
healing modality, little different than EFT or Reiki or other 'energy 
healing' or otherwise non-physical techniques that sometimes pop up in 
discussions here.

As odd as it may seem to those who are particularly sensitive to the G-
word, it was actually a technical post, if largely off topic.

I never have and do not now intend for those types of contributions to 
become a frequent feature of the list or to overwhelm our discussions.

That said, Robert's infraction of the list rules was of such a 
negligible nature that I would only have cautioned him about it, 
gently, and only if he'd showed signs of making a habit of it.

The response to Robert's post by Dave and a few others is a more 
serious problem.

The list rule prohibiting discussion of religion and politics is not 
intended as a WEAPON to be used by members to enforce THEIR will on 
other members, but a tool for each member to guide their OWN behavior.

Dave labelling Robert's post as ... a bunch of obscene bull shit is 
an attack that is entirely out of proportion to the provocation and not 
behavior I intend to tolerate toward *ANY* of my members.

First and most obvious, Dave does NOT run the list, I do. It's not his 
or any other member's job to discipline other members or to complain 
about their behavior on-list. Such public complaints are disruptive in 
themselves and are also clearly against the same rules he was so quick 
to invoke.

Your job as members is to contact me privately when, in your opinion,  
something is going wrong on the list. I will happily accept such input 
and use it to guide my moderation, many times acting behind the scenes 
to coach people toward the expected behavior.

That's my job, use me.

Second, the prohibition on discussions of religion, spirtuality, or the 
metaphysical is not the same as intolerance OF those beliefs. As I say 
in the list rules...

 I am not asking you to de-God everything you say, do or think,
 however. Brief greetings, thanks, and prayer requests or offerings are
 acceptable. The occasional God bless, or you're in our prayers
 will not be seen as a transgression. 

Yes, Robert's offering was outside those guidelines and not the kind of 
thing I am going to encourage routinely, but I will also not allow the 
creation of an environment which is HOSTILE to those who so believe.

Intolerance of spirituality is no better or worse in my eyes, as the 
person who has to moderate the discussion, than the religious 
intolerance that causes such topics to rapidly descend to the very 
flames of hell in the first place.  

So...

Tolerance is called for on both sides... ALL sides. 

Public complaints about other members' behavior or actions are not 
appropriate or allowed. 

Aggressive behavior toward other members, who are also my guests here, 
is *still* prohibited.

Lastly, since at least one person mentioned it, let me remind you all 
that I also consider assaultive or aggressive behavior in private e-
mail to other members inappropriate. If you receive such items and they 
concern you, let me know. Participation in this list should not result 
in anyone being subjected to such things.

For your reference, the list rules reside at www.silverlist.org ... 
Please re-read them and contact me if you have any further questions.

Let the thread die now. Don't respond if somebody else does before they 
see this message. It may take another day or two for it to completely 
end. Let it.

Thank you,

Mike Devour
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Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list

2010-10-04 Thread kaykelly
please remove me from this list. I live in the south I don't need any more fuel 
to stay warm. 

-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net
Sent: Oct 4, 2010 6:30 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list



   This isn't about religion...it's about someone not showing the respect 
they demand and letting other people use his ears for him to insert 
thoughts he doesn't want to think but is powerless not to.
  Can't control self, must control you.
Superior yet helpless.

I once knew someone that would write back to [snail] junk mail addresses 
demanding it cease  instead of using it to start the wood stove and stay 
warm.well, she stayed warm under the collar, at least, but none of it 
ever stopped coming.

If the wind is blowing, you build a wall and let it go around.  Screaming 
at it only adds to the chill.

Ode


At 08:12 AM 10/3/2010 -0700, you wrote:
Hanneke
There was nothing nasty in my response. The religion thing just keeps 
building and building until it becomes overbearing.
The mind has a good deal to do with healing as can be seen  everyday. As 
far as Reiki is concerned I have no knowledge of it and am not bombarded 
with it daily so I wouldn't notice.
Dave

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Hanneke 
mailto:bloss...@internode.on.netbloss...@internode.on.net wrote:
I wonder if I would get such nasty responses if I had suggested to use 
Reiki.. pretty similar to the kind of spiritual approach Robert suggested.

Not sure what you guys are afraid of but if you are afraid of approaching 
health and health issues other than via mechanical ways, you're missing 
something in the healing process.

I for one believe that the mind is part of healing.. if you call that 
religion and that scares you, not sure who is having the problems here.




At 11:12 PM 3/10/2010, you wrote:
The place for ones personal religious or spiritual belief is NOT the 
public domain.

Follow the guidelines, show due consideration for others beliefs and 
philosophies, and show such support in private, after all, it is an 
individuals personal philosophy and it should remain as such, hence one 
will avoid any flak which is bound to be incoming.  Some take religion 
and/or spirituallity quite serious, and that's a double edged sword, so 
it would be better to keep it private and avoid inciting such responses 
from those who hold a different philosophy.

You're entitled to yours, I'm entitled to mine, keep that in mind and 
everything'll be sweetsay n'more, say n'more.

N.

  From: mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.comcking...@nycap.rr.com
  To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: RE: CSDave Darrin remove from list
  Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 07:59:03 -0400
 
  Oh, get a GRIP!
 
  The mean spiritness being shown is way more offensive than an
  innocuous affirmation for healing.
 
  PC really sucks!
 
  Chuck
  WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may make you think you are
  whispering when you are not.
 
 
  On 10/3/2010 12:52:37 AM, Neville Munn 
 (mailto:one.red...@hotmail.comone.red...@hotmail.com) wrote:
   Quote:
   Use the power of thought and hands of God and place what ever you 
 want to on his incision if it is for his highest good. I
   infuse
   God's Divine Love into this situation end quote.
  
   Well if that don't
   smack of religion I dunno what does slapping forehead...? If he 
 meant Ra
   the sun god, the sacred cow of India, or Inca, Mayan or Aztec human
   sacrifice, then he should have made that clear and it probly
   wouldn't have been so offensive.
  
   Some reserve the right to NOT subscribe to such ideals, and that r
 
 
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Re: CSWARNING! from list owner

2010-10-04 Thread kaykelly
please remove me. I have tried to opt out of the group but that didn't work. 

-Original Message-
From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Sent: Oct 3, 2010 9:45 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: zebulan5...@yahoo.com, davedar...@gmail.com
Subject: CSWARNING! from list owner

I'm always amazed at the difference 24 hours can make. Things weren't 
going too bad, until somebody decided they are going to try to run the 
list for me.

Robert offered what I would consider a prescription for a spiritual 
healing modality, little different than EFT or Reiki or other 'energy 
healing' or otherwise non-physical techniques that sometimes pop up in 
discussions here.

As odd as it may seem to those who are particularly sensitive to the G-
word, it was actually a technical post, if largely off topic.

I never have and do not now intend for those types of contributions to 
become a frequent feature of the list or to overwhelm our discussions.

That said, Robert's infraction of the list rules was of such a 
negligible nature that I would only have cautioned him about it, 
gently, and only if he'd showed signs of making a habit of it.

The response to Robert's post by Dave and a few others is a more 
serious problem.

The list rule prohibiting discussion of religion and politics is not 
intended as a WEAPON to be used by members to enforce THEIR will on 
other members, but a tool for each member to guide their OWN behavior.

Dave labelling Robert's post as ... a bunch of obscene bull shit is 
an attack that is entirely out of proportion to the provocation and not 
behavior I intend to tolerate toward *ANY* of my members.

First and most obvious, Dave does NOT run the list, I do. It's not his 
or any other member's job to discipline other members or to complain 
about their behavior on-list. Such public complaints are disruptive in 
themselves and are also clearly against the same rules he was so quick 
to invoke.

Your job as members is to contact me privately when, in your opinion,  
something is going wrong on the list. I will happily accept such input 
and use it to guide my moderation, many times acting behind the scenes 
to coach people toward the expected behavior.

That's my job, use me.

Second, the prohibition on discussions of religion, spirtuality, or the 
metaphysical is not the same as intolerance OF those beliefs. As I say 
in the list rules...

 I am not asking you to de-God everything you say, do or think,
 however. Brief greetings, thanks, and prayer requests or offerings are
 acceptable. The occasional God bless, or you're in our prayers
 will not be seen as a transgression. 

Yes, Robert's offering was outside those guidelines and not the kind of 
thing I am going to encourage routinely, but I will also not allow the 
creation of an environment which is HOSTILE to those who so believe.

Intolerance of spirituality is no better or worse in my eyes, as the 
person who has to moderate the discussion, than the religious 
intolerance that causes such topics to rapidly descend to the very 
flames of hell in the first place.  

So...

Tolerance is called for on both sides... ALL sides. 

Public complaints about other members' behavior or actions are not 
appropriate or allowed. 

Aggressive behavior toward other members, who are also my guests here, 
is *still* prohibited.

Lastly, since at least one person mentioned it, let me remind you all 
that I also consider assaultive or aggressive behavior in private e-
mail to other members inappropriate. If you receive such items and they 
concern you, let me know. Participation in this list should not result 
in anyone being subjected to such things.

For your reference, the list rules reside at www.silverlist.org ... 
Please re-read them and contact me if you have any further questions.

Let the thread die now. Don't respond if somebody else does before they 
see this message. It may take another day or two for it to completely 
end. Let it.

Thank you,

Mike Devour
silver-list owner

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself...   ]


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Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list

2010-10-04 Thread Ode Coyote



  This isn't about religion...it's about someone not showing the respect 
they demand and letting other people use his ears for him to insert 
thoughts he doesn't want to think but is powerless not to.

 Can't control self, must control you.
Superior yet helpless.

I once knew someone that would write back to [snail] junk mail addresses 
demanding it cease  instead of using it to start the wood stove and stay 
warm.well, she stayed warm under the collar, at least, but none of it 
ever stopped coming.


If the wind is blowing, you build a wall and let it go around.  Screaming 
at it only adds to the chill.


Ode


At 08:12 AM 10/3/2010 -0700, you wrote:

Hanneke
There was nothing nasty in my response. The religion thing just keeps 
building and building until it becomes overbearing.
The mind has a good deal to do with healing as can be seen  everyday. As 
far as Reiki is concerned I have no knowledge of it and am not bombarded 
with it daily so I wouldn't notice.

Dave

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Hanneke 
mailto:bloss...@internode.on.netbloss...@internode.on.net wrote:
I wonder if I would get such nasty responses if I had suggested to use 
Reiki.. pretty similar to the kind of spiritual approach Robert suggested.


Not sure what you guys are afraid of but if you are afraid of approaching 
health and health issues other than via mechanical ways, you're missing 
something in the healing process.


I for one believe that the mind is part of healing.. if you call that 
religion and that scares you, not sure who is having the problems here.





At 11:12 PM 3/10/2010, you wrote:
The place for ones personal religious or spiritual belief is NOT the 
public domain.


Follow the guidelines, show due consideration for others beliefs and 
philosophies, and show such support in private, after all, it is an 
individuals personal philosophy and it should remain as such, hence one 
will avoid any flak which is bound to be incoming.  Some take religion 
and/or spirituallity quite serious, and that's a double edged sword, so 
it would be better to keep it private and avoid inciting such responses 
from those who hold a different philosophy.


You're entitled to yours, I'm entitled to mine, keep that in mind and 
everything'll be sweetsay n'more, say n'more.


N.

 From: mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.comcking...@nycap.rr.com
 To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: RE: CSDave Darrin remove from list
 Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 07:59:03 -0400

 Oh, get a GRIP!

 The mean spiritness being shown is way more offensive than an
 innocuous affirmation for healing.

 PC really sucks!

 Chuck
 WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may make you think you are
 whispering when you are not.


 On 10/3/2010 12:52:37 AM, Neville Munn 
(mailto:one.red...@hotmail.comone.red...@hotmail.com) wrote:

  Quote:
  Use the power of thought and hands of God and place what ever you 
want to on his incision if it is for his highest good. I

  infuse
  God's Divine Love into this situation end quote.
 
  Well if that don't
  smack of religion I dunno what does slapping forehead...? If he 
meant Ra

  the sun god, the sacred cow of India, or Inca, Mayan or Aztec human
  sacrifice, then he should have made that clear and it probly
  wouldn't have been so offensive.
 
  Some reserve the right to NOT subscribe to such ideals, and that r


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Re: CS KayKelly -unsubscribe Mike will help

2010-10-04 Thread ZZekelink
 
In a message dated 10/4/2010 5:02:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
kayke...@mindspring.com writes:

please  remove me. I have tried to opt out of the group but that didn't  
work


HI, Kay or Kelly, If you can't find a way just e-mail  Mike  he will help 
you.  Good luck, sorry you are leaving.  Lois
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Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list

2010-10-04 Thread M. G. Devour
 please remove me from this list. 

Done!

Peace,

Mike D.

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CSQuebec protocol

2010-10-04 Thread needling around
Does anyone know anything about the Quebec protocol for non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma? 
 It was mentioned in the Strauss Heart Drops newsletter but it seems they do 
not keep a copy of their newsletters so I was not able to access it.  Google 
turned up empty also.

Thanks for any help you can give.
PT

Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-04 Thread Marshall Dudley
 I believe an alternative to cutting down on salt is to increase ones 
pure water consumption. What is important is the ratio of the two, if 
you drink plenty of water excess salt is easily flushed from the body.


Marshall

On 10/1/2010 11:09 PM, Costumes wrote:
... Now if we could just get my Dad to stop eating salt and sodium 
 The Dr's told him he HAD to make improvements in his diet ... but 
he has no intention of doing it   He could care less about trying 
to do HIS PART to protect his health.  If your husband shares your 
desire for good health, then that will certainly be a huge blessing on 
his behalf !!!

jan

Hi Jan.  Thanks in advance for the prayers -- it's appreciated.  And 
thanks also for the encouraging words -- your Dad was only in the 
hospital for 4 days?  Wow -- that's amazing.  I hope my husband does 
as well.  Thanks for your post -- it's given me a bright ray of hope.

MA


MaryAnn, my Dad (84) had his aortic replaced, and a tumor removed
from the mytral valve ... back in the spring, in Atlanta.  The
whole procedure went as smoothly as could be. He was in the
hospital for 4 days, and now his heart is stronger than ever ...
.  Will say some prayers for your hubby  :)
   jan

My husband is at the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio right now. He will have
open-heart surgery on Tuesday (aortic valve replacement and cardiac
myeomectomy). I'll be driving there on Monday to be there for the
surgery, and
will remain in Cleveland while he's in the hospital. Of course,
I'm worried
about the surgery itself, but I'm more worried about the
opportunities for
infections while he's there. So I'm taking a gallon of CS -- is
that enough?
I'd also like to take some CS gel (courtesy of Ode's kit). I don't
know how the
hospital staff would feel about an unknown gel product on the
incision itself,
so I may not get that done until we're out of there. Any advice
from anyone
will be greatly appreciated.
MA





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Re: CSSilver particles on bottom of jar

2010-10-04 Thread Marshall Dudley

 On 10/1/2010 11:36 PM, MaryAnn Helland wrote:

Hi Dan.  Thanks for that information.  I was using (and have been, for years) a
term that is used in my CS manual for describing the process by which silver
particles leave the electrodes.  Oddly enough -- when I Googled it, they didn't
even have that word spelled that way.  They have he word *sinter* -- and it does
have a different meaning, you're right.  I will check a dictionary as well.

So -- OK -- large particles of silver aren't disseminated (howzat?) from the
electrodes *as* large particles, but the rapid dissemination results in
agglomeration which becomes large particles.  Right?
Depends on the process. For the electrolytic process we use that is 
correct. Also for evaporation method it is true. But for sputtering 
method they are blown off as particles. There is only one company I know 
of which uses the sputtering method and they make almost 100% pure colloid.


Marshall
  


MA



- Original Message 

From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com

First of all, scinter or scintering is the wrong word for what you
are trying to describe.  It is inappropriate to use that word in this
context.  Look it up in a dictionary, or Google it.

Even so, I don't believe that large particles of silver are undercut
and break off the electrodes in any significant way.

On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 7:34 AM, MaryAnn Helland
marmar...@bellsouth.net  wrote:

Hi Jan.  Usually when there is silver laying at the bottom of the jar, that
is silver that scintered off the silver bars too fast, and is therefore too
large-particle to remain suspended in the distilled water.  It could have
been aided by some kind of film on the interior of the jar, or something
less than perfect in the distilled water.

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Re: CSSilver particles on bottom of jar

2010-10-04 Thread Marshall Dudley

 I believe that the process is as follows:

1. the OH and H of the water molecule are attracted to opposite electrodes.
2. When the OH reaches the anode it reacts with a silver atom producing 
AgOH, that is silver hydroxide
3. The silver hydroxides tend to bang into each other and silver 
particles in colloidal form near the electrode and produce a silver 
particle or enlarge it.  The remaining OH combines producing water and 
oxygent.


Marshall

On 10/2/2010 3:13 AM, Neville Munn wrote:
What about 'repelled?'  If I understand the process correctly, doesn't 
it require a minimum voltage to cause the silver to be 'repelled' from 
the electrode in the form of ions?


As those ions are in constant rapid movement in the water {I believe 
that's called Zeta potential} they collide with each other and some 
'stick' to each other {I believe that's called van der Waals force of 
mutual attraction/repulsion} forming atomic clusters of those silver 
ions...commonly referred to as 'particles', and as some may collide 
more than others that's where larger 'particles?' are formed.


Howzat Sir/Maam?  Am I close? Do I get a star? g

N.

 Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 20:36:03 -0700
 From: marmar...@bellsouth.net
 Subject: Re: CSSilver particles on bottom of jar
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com

 Hi Dan.  Thanks for that information.  I was using (and have been, 
for years) a
 term that is used in my CS manual for describing the process by 
which silver
 particles leave the electrodes.  Oddly enough -- when I Googled it, 
they didn't
 even have that word spelled that way.  They have he word *sinter* -- 
and it does
 have a different meaning, you're right.  I will check a dictionary 
as well.


 So -- OK -- large particles of silver aren't disseminated (howzat?) 
from the

 electrodes *as* large particles, but the rapid dissemination results in
 agglomeration which becomes large particles.  Right?

 MA



 - Original Message 
  From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
 
  First of all, scinter or scintering is the wrong word for what you
  are trying to describe.  It is inappropriate to use that word in this
  context.  Look it up in a dictionary, or Google it.
 
  Even so, I don't believe that large particles of silver are undercut
  and break off the electrodes in any significant way.
 
  On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 7:34 AM, MaryAnn Helland
  marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote:
   Hi Jan.  Usually when there is silver laying at the bottom of 
the jar, that
   is silver that scintered off the silver bars too fast, and is 
therefore too
   large-particle to remain suspended in the distilled water.  It 
could have
   been aided by some kind of film on the interior of the jar, or 
something

   less than perfect in the distilled water.

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Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list

2010-10-04 Thread Marshall Dudley
 I agree.  One has multiple  bodies, the physical, astral and spiritual 
to name a few.  Healing one without the other never leads to long term 
success.  One needs to be holistic in that ALL bodies should be healed.  
Adding intent to anything physically done is just as important as the 
physical stuff. That was the secret of The Secret.


Marshall

On 10/2/2010 4:03 PM, Sandy wrote:

No doubt I'll regret this but just so you know, Dave what Robert said was in no 
way religious...it was spiritual. Had he invoked the name of a church or some 
church doctrine oe was trying to force his views on you then you could consider 
that religious. You might want to learn the difference.

Besides, from what I can tell Robert was not addressing his comment to you.

Doesn't Mike also have some sort of rule about being civil?

Sandy

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Now maybe you understand why Mike says to keep religion off the list.
By the way take me off this list doesn't unsubscribe
  you.
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Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list

2010-10-04 Thread Marshall Dudley
 There is no such thing as no particular religion.  That is like saying 
no particular disease, all disease is a particular disease, or it is not 
a disease at all.  Discussing spiritual topics as to health is allowed, 
discussing religion, even in the abstract like you are doing is not 
allowed. Please take any discussions on religion to the off topic list 
where I will be happy to explain your error in logic.


Marshall

On 10/2/2010 11:50 PM, Dave Darrin wrote:

Not any particular religion but religion never the less. Get real!
Dave

On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Sandy hollis302...@yahoo.com 
mailto:hollis302...@yahoo.com wrote:


No doubt I'll regret this but just so you know, Dave what Robert
said was in no way religious...it was spiritual. Had he invoked
the name of a church or some church doctrine oe was trying to
force his views on you then you could consider that religious. You
might want to learn the difference.

Besides, from what I can tell Robert was not addressing his
comment to you.

Doesn't Mike also have some sort of rule about being civil?

Sandy

--- On Sat, 10/2/10, Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com
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Now maybe you understand why Mike says to keep religion off the list.
By the way take me off this list doesn't unsubscribe
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Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list

2010-10-04 Thread Marshall Dudley
 You are perfectly welcome to substitute whatever you want for God.  
Creator, Almighty, all that is, universe, angels, the great spirit, the 
solar system's nexus or whatever, it does not matter. It is the thought 
that counts and which carries the energy to heal.


Marshall

On 10/3/2010 12:52 AM, Neville Munn wrote:
Quote: Use the power of thought and hands of *God *and place what 
ever you  want to on his incision  if  it is for his highest good.  I 
infuse *God's* Divine Love into this situation end quote.


Well if that don't smack of religion I dunno what does slapping 
forehead...?  If he meant Ra the sun god, the sacred cow of India, or 
Inca, Mayan or Aztec human sacrifice, then he should have made that 
clear and it probly wouldn't have been so offensive.


Some reserve the right to NOT subscribe to such ideals, and that right 
should be RESPECTED!


N.

Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 20:50:10 -0700
Subject: Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list
From: davedar...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Not any particular religion but religion never the less. Get real!
Dave

On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Sandy hollis302...@yahoo.com 
mailto:hollis302...@yahoo.com wrote:


No doubt I'll regret this but just so you know, Dave what Robert
said was in no way religious...it was spiritual. Had he invoked
the name of a church or some church doctrine oe was trying to
force his views on you then you could consider that religious. You
might want to learn the difference.

Besides, from what I can tell Robert was not addressing his
comment to you.

Doesn't Mike also have some sort of rule about being civil?

Sandy

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mailto:davedar...@gmail.com wrote:


Now maybe you understand why Mike says to keep religion off the list.
By the way take me off this list doesn't unsubscribe
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Re: CSremove from list

2010-10-04 Thread Marshall Dudley
 Please either unsubscribe or take this to the off topic list. 
Religions topics are not allowed here!!


Mike, where are you.

Marshall

On 10/3/2010 11:21 AM, Dave Darrin wrote:

Dee
Thank you for the insight.
The biggest Con man on earth is the Pope and followed by millions who 
don't know better( sheep?)

Enough said on this subject. Lets just drop it like a hot potato.
Dave

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org 
mailto:d...@deetroy.org wrote:


But it could be offensive to those who don't subscribe to the god
theory and see it as a mighty con by control freaks.  However, I'm
sure it was kindly meant by the poster.  dee


On 2 Oct 2010, at 20:56, needling around wrote:

 As one who has spent years studying it, I would hardly call what
was offered religion and I, personally, did not find it
offensive... merely a kindness offered from one list member to
another.
 Rev. PT
 - Original Message -
 From: Dave Darrin
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 3:26 PM
 Subject: Re: CSremove from list

 Now maybe you understand why Mike says to keep religion off the
list.
 By the way take me off this list doesn't unsubscribe you.
 Dave

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CShelp re cholesterol

2010-10-04 Thread needling around
A friend in his 30s has been found to have high cholesterol.  I did some 
research in the archives and sent along some info.  I was wondering if anyone 
had any specific recommendations for this situation.  He is not overweight.
Thanks.
PT



Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list

2010-10-04 Thread Marshall Dudley
 Posting to a forum is always a problem. As one progresses spiritually 
they find that at some point they realize that giving information to 
someone that does not want it is infringing on their free will.  While 
this can be easily avoided on a one on one situation, for a forum it is 
impossible, for to maintain a level of knowledge no higher than the 
lowest calibrating  member will not assist anyone. One has to shoot more 
for the average level of the list.  For instance there are things I post 
on the off topic list which I will not post here because it would 
infringe on the belief system of some of those on this list.  
Unfortunately Dave calibrates much much lower than the average person on 
this list (25 vs 565), and it is very obvious that he is misplaced, this 
is not the forum  for him.  He needs to find a list that calibrates no 
more than 200 which is the neutral point to be comfortable and where his 
free will to believe what he wants is not being infringed on.


Marshall

On 10/3/2010 2:09 PM, Malcolm wrote:

Attacking someone's spiritual offering as obscene bullshit qualifies
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Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list

2010-10-04 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
you have to unsubscribe by clicking on the link on the bottom of the email.  dee

On 4 Oct 2010, at 14:01, kaykelly wrote:

 please remove me from this list. I live in the south I don't need any more 
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Re: CShelp re cholesterol

2010-10-04 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I have read in many knowledgeable sources that 'high' cholesterol is 
irrelevant.  We all need cholesterol all the time to repair everything in our 
bodies.  The brain is largely cholesterol so to try and reduce it would be 
madness in my opinion.  Also, we are all different and what might be deemed 
high by the medics, could indeed be perfectly normal for *that* person so to 
mess with it could potentially be disastrous!  dee

On 4 Oct 2010, at 18:12, needling around wrote:

 A friend in his 30s has been found to have high cholesterol.  I did some 
 research in the archives and sent along some info.  I was wondering if anyone 
 had any specific recommendations for this situation.  He is not overweight.
 Thanks.
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CSPrill beads

2010-10-04 Thread Marshall Dudley
 About 6 months ago we had a discussion here or on the off topic list 
about Prill beads.  I purchased some not knowing what, if anything to 
expect.  When they arrived I washed them as the instructions indicated 
an put them into our water container which we fill with desalinized water.


I can now report some very definite and observable results.  I would 
normally have to drain and use acid on the inside of the container every 
month or two to remove all the scale that would form on the inside.  Not 
only have I not had to do this, there is still absolutely no scale 
forming at all, not even a trace.


I had been puzzled by this for a while, but the thread recently on the 
water structuring through via a vortex in a magnetic field I think might 
hold the key.


Water undergoing shear in a magnetic field gets restructured.  According 
to Brookes this results in among other things an increase in 
solubility.  I also know that my son uses magnets on his house water 
which appear to stop all scaling in his pipes by the same mechanism.  
The only way I know that scaling in my water container could have been 
stopped is if the solubility of the water was increased so the scale 
does not form and even will dissolve.  Thus I believe that one effect of 
Prill beads is a restructuring of the water, similar if not identical to 
that which the magnetic vortex produces.


Marshall


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Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list

2010-10-04 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
This sounds very prejudiced and indeed, patronising, to me.  I believe Dave has 
as much right to be here as anyone--his input is as valuable as anyone else's 
and to start 'calibrating' him because he does not share certain viewpoints, 
is, I think deplorable.  Ours not to judge--to coin a phrase!  dee

On 4 Oct 2010, at 18:22, Marshall Dudley wrote:

 Posting to a forum is always a problem. As one progresses spiritually they 
 find that at some point they realize that giving information to someone that 
 does not want it is infringing on their free will.  While this can be easily 
 avoided on a one on one situation, for a forum it is impossible, for to 
 maintain a level of knowledge no higher than the lowest calibrating  member 
 will not assist anyone. One has to shoot more for the average level of the 
 list.  For instance there are things I post on the off topic list which I 
 will not post here because it would infringe on the belief system of some of 
 those on this list.  Unfortunately Dave calibrates much much lower than the 
 average person on this list (25 vs 565), and it is very obvious that he is 
 misplaced, this is not the forum  for him.  He needs to find a list that 
 calibrates no more than 200 which is the neutral point to be comfortable and 
 where his free will to believe what he wants is not being infringed on.
 
 Marshall
 


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Re: CShelp re cholesterol

2010-10-04 Thread Sandy
Hi PT,

I've heard chromium picolinate helps. I once went in for some tests at the Dr 
and for my last meal before the cut off time for eating was greasy barbecued 
pork ribs [I know, I know]. I thought for sure my cholesterol would be sky high 
but the test showed it was perfect. I had been taking chromium picolinate for 
about a year so figured what they said about it must be true.

As a side note I no longer eat greasy pork ribs and such...[shiver].

Sandy

--- On Mon, 10/4/10, needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net
Subject: CShelp re cholesterol
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, October 4, 2010, 12:12 PM



 
 

A friend in his 30s has been found to have high 
cholesterol.  I did some research in the archives and sent along some 
info.  I was wondering if anyone had any specific recommendations for this 
situation.  He is not overweight.
Thanks.
PT
 
 


  

Re: CSPrill beads

2010-10-04 Thread Sandee George
Hi There Marshall, thanks for your observances which concur with  
mine.On Jim's website he clearly says that the beads restructure  
the water - I love mine and have at least one glass per day, if I  
drink this glass late in the evening I cannot sleep at night as I am  
invigorated, so drink before 3.00 pm - it feels good !!!


Warm regards
Sandee


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Re: CSQuebec protocol

2010-10-04 Thread ZZekelink
 Hi PT when normal search engins can't seem to come up  with an answer--I 
use _www.dogpile.com_ (http://www.dogpile.com)  I did  a search there  what 
you mentioned --{Quebec}--was mentioned-- Hope this  helps, Lois  _Quebec  
protocol for non-Hodgkin's - Dogpile Web Search_ 
(http://dogpile.com/dogpile/ws/results/Web/Quebec%20protocol%20for%20non-Hodgkin's/1/417/TopNavigation/R
elevance/iq=true/zoom=off/_iceUrlFlag=7?_IceUrl=true)  
Does anyone know anything about the Quebec  protocol for non-Hodgkin's 
Lymphoma?  It was mentioned in the Strauss Heart  Drops newsletter but it seems 
they do not keep a copy of their newsletters so I  was not able to access 
it.  Google turned up empty  also.

 
Thanks for any help you can give.
PT


 


Re: CSPrill beads

2010-10-04 Thread Alan Jones
I tried the prill water for about 2 months, drinking about a half gallon a
day.  Didn't notice any benefits.

Alan

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Sandee George oha...@juno.com wrote:

 Hi There Marshall, thanks for your observances which concur with mine.
  On Jim's website he clearly says that the beads restructure the water - I
 love mine and have at least one glass per day, if I drink this glass late in
 the evening I cannot sleep at night as I am invigorated, so drink before
 3.00 pm - it feels good !!!

 Warm regards
 Sandee


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prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)


Re: CShelp re cholesterol

2010-10-04 Thread Alan Jones
I have read that niacin helps lower cholesterol.  It should be regular
niacin, not no-flush and not niacinamide.

Start low.  In one day I jumped from a 100mg dose to 200mg, I turned BRIGHT
red for almost an hour.  Do some Googling before you try this.

Alan

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Sandy hollis302...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi PT,

 I've heard chromium picolinate helps. I once went in for some tests at the
 Dr and for my last meal before the cut off time for eating was greasy
 barbecued pork ribs [I know, I know]. I thought for sure my cholesterol
 would be sky high but the test showed it was perfect. I had been taking
 chromium picolinate for about a year so figured what they said about it must
 be true.

 As a side note I no longer eat greasy pork ribs and such...[shiver].

 Sandy

 --- On *Mon, 10/4/10, needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net* wrote:


 From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net
 Subject: CShelp re cholesterol
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, October 4, 2010, 12:12 PM

 A friend in his 30s has been found to have high cholesterol.  I did some
 research in the archives and sent along some info.  I was wondering if
 anyone had any specific recommendations for this situation.  He is not
 overweight.
 Thanks.
 PT






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The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)


Re: CShelp re cholesterol

2010-10-04 Thread Marshall Dudley
 I concur with that completely.  Cholesterol being deposited in the 
veins is not due to high cholesterol but to inflammation of the veins.  
That is why research has found that anti-inflammation agents such as 
aspirin, and low level antibiotics reduce this problem.  The correct 
answer is to remove the inflammation, not remove the stuff to try and 
reduce it.  If you get rid of the inflammation and take some 
serrapeptase your veins will be as clean as a new born babe in a month.


Marshall

On 10/4/2010 2:09 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

I have read in many knowledgeable sources that 'high' cholesterol is 
irrelevant.  We all need cholesterol all the time to repair everything in our 
bodies.  The brain is largely cholesterol so to try and reduce it would be 
madness in my opinion.  Also, we are all different and what might be deemed 
high by the medics, could indeed be perfectly normal for *that* person so to 
mess with it could potentially be disastrous!  dee

On 4 Oct 2010, at 18:12, needling around wrote:


A friend in his 30s has been found to have high cholesterol.  I did some 
research in the archives and sent along some info.  I was wondering if anyone 
had any specific recommendations for this situation.  He is not overweight.
Thanks.
PT




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Re: CSQuebec protocol

2010-10-04 Thread needling around
Thanks.  I ran into the same problem.  They were all allopathic and the Quebec 
protocol was an alternative medicine protocol.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: zzekel...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 3:01 PM
  Subject: Re: CSQuebec protocol


Hi PT when normal search engins can't seem to come up 
with an answer--I use www.dogpile.com I did a search there  what you mentioned 
--{Quebec}--was mentioned-- Hope this helps, Lois  Quebec protocol for 
non-Hodgkin's - Dogpile Web Search 
  Does anyone know anything about the Quebec protocol for non-Hodgkin's 
Lymphoma?  It was mentioned in the Strauss Heart Drops newsletter but it seems 
they do not keep a copy of their newsletters so I was not able to access it.  
Google turned up empty also.

Thanks for any help you can give.
PT


Re: CSPrill beads

2010-10-04 Thread ZZekelink
 
I can  now report some very definite and observable results.  I would  
normally have to drain and use acid on the inside of the container every  
month or two to remove all the scale that would form on the inside.   Not 
only have I not had to do this, there is still absolutely no scale  
forming at all, not even a trace.



Hi Marshall, What is the scale  you mention ??? Is  it lime ???  Our 
water has a heavy lime content  it does cause trouble  at times... Lois


Re: CShelp re cholesterol / serrapeptase

2010-10-04 Thread ZZekelink
 
In a message dated 10/4/2010 3:15:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
mdud...@king-cart.com writes:

If you  get rid of the inflammation and take some 
serrapeptase your veins will be  as clean as a new born babe in a  month.

Marshall



How much serrapeptase should one take ???  Lois


Re: CShelp re cholesterol

2010-10-04 Thread cking001
Lecithin works well on cholesterol.

A tablespoon or two daily of granulated has a good history.

I get mine here...
http://www.puritan.com/lecithin-064/lecithin-granules-001060

Chuck
If all the cars on the Earth were lined up bumper to bumper, some
idiot would try to pass them.


On 10/4/2010 1:12:49 PM, needling around (ptf2...@bellsouth.net)
wrote:
 A friend in his 30s has been found to have high cholesterol. I did some
 research in the archives and sent along some info. I was wondering if
 anyone had any specific recommendations for this situation. He is not
 overweight.
 Thanks.
 PT


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Re: CSremove from list

2010-10-04 Thread Norton, Steve

I notice that if you click the Unsubscribe link below you get a
message generated with subscribe in the Subject line. Shouldn't the
subject be unsubscribe? Is this what is causing people trouble when
they try to unsubscribe?

 - Steve N


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Re: CShelp re cholesterol

2010-10-04 Thread Alan Jones
I also agree.  Also, I have read that only about half of heart attack
victims have high cholesterol.

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.comwrote:

  I concur with that completely.  Cholesterol being deposited in the veins
 is not due to high cholesterol but to inflammation of the veins.  That is
 why research has found that anti-inflammation agents such as aspirin, and
 low level antibiotics reduce this problem.  The correct answer is to remove
 the inflammation, not remove the stuff to try and reduce it.  If you get rid
 of the inflammation and take some serrapeptase your veins will be as clean
 as a new born babe in a month.

 Marshall

 On 10/4/2010 2:09 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

 I have read in many knowledgeable sources that 'high' cholesterol is
 irrelevant.  We all need cholesterol all the time to repair everything in
 our bodies.  The brain is largely cholesterol so to try and reduce it would
 be madness in my opinion.  Also, we are all different and what might be
 deemed high by the medics, could indeed be perfectly normal for *that*
 person so to mess with it could potentially be disastrous!  dee


 On 4 Oct 2010, at 18:12, needling around wrote:

  A friend in his 30s has been found to have high cholesterol.  I did some
 research in the archives and sent along some info.  I was wondering if
 anyone had any specific recommendations for this situation.  He is not
 overweight.
 Thanks.
 PT

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The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)


Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list

2010-10-04 Thread Leo Regehr
You are right, Dorothy, if this were a public forum owned by the public. But it 
is open to the public at the will of a private individual. The terms, prejudice 
and patronize are relevant only in truly public areas that are publicly owned. 
You have every right to host your own private group and invite the public to 
join. But you make the rules, and constitutional rights do not apply.
Leo


  - Original Message - 
  From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 12:23 PM
  Subject: Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list


  This sounds very prejudiced and indeed, patronising, to me.  I believe Dave 
has as much right to be here as anyone--his input is as valuable as anyone 
else's and to start 'calibrating' him because he does not share certain 
viewpoints, is, I think deplorable.  Ours not to judge--to coin a phrase!  dee

  On 4 Oct 2010, at 18:22, Marshall Dudley wrote:

   Posting to a forum is always a problem. As one progresses spiritually they 
find that at some point they realize that giving information to someone that 
does not want it is infringing on their free will.  While this can be easily 
avoided on a one on one situation, for a forum it is impossible, for to 
maintain a level of knowledge no higher than the lowest calibrating  member 
will not assist anyone. One has to shoot more for the average level of the 
list.  For instance there are things I post on the off topic list which I will 
not post here because it would infringe on the belief system of some of those 
on this list.  Unfortunately Dave calibrates much much lower than the average 
person on this list (25 vs 565), and it is very obvious that he is misplaced, 
this is not the forum  for him.  He needs to find a list that calibrates no 
more than 200 which is the neutral point to be comfortable and where his free 
will to believe what he wants is not being infringed on.
   
   Marshall
   


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Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list

2010-10-04 Thread Dan Nave
And if you're a behaviorist you could invoke B. F. Skinner...

Dan


On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:
  You are perfectly welcome to substitute whatever you want for God.
  Creator, Almighty, all that is, universe, angels, the great spirit, the
 solar system's nexus or whatever, it does not matter. It is the thought that
 counts and which carries the energy to heal.

 Marshall

 On 10/3/2010 12:52 AM, Neville Munn wrote:

 Quote: Use the power of thought and hands of *God *and place what ever
 you  want to on his incision  if  it is for his highest good.  I infuse
 *God's* Divine Love into this situation end quote.

 Well if that don't smack of religion I dunno what does slapping
 forehead...?  If he meant Ra the sun god, the sacred cow of India, or Inca,
 Mayan or Aztec human sacrifice, then he should have made that clear and it
 probly wouldn't have been so offensive.

 Some reserve the right to NOT subscribe to such ideals, and that right
 should be RESPECTED!

 N.
 
 Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 20:50:10 -0700
 Subject: Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list
 From: davedar...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com

 Not any particular religion but religion never the less. Get real!
 Dave

 On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Sandy hollis302...@yahoo.com
 mailto:hollis302...@yahoo.com wrote:

    No doubt I'll regret this but just so you know, Dave what Robert
    said was in no way religious...it was spiritual. Had he invoked
    the name of a church or some church doctrine oe was trying to
    force his views on you then you could consider that religious. You
    might want to learn the difference.

    Besides, from what I can tell Robert was not addressing his
    comment to you.

    Doesn't Mike also have some sort of rule about being civil?

    Sandy

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    mailto:davedar...@gmail.com wrote:


    Now maybe you understand why Mike says to keep religion off the list.
    By the way take me off this list doesn't unsubscribe
     you.
    Dave













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RE: CSPrill beads

2010-10-04 Thread Lisa
Marshall,

I'm interested in knowing just how your son uses magnets on his house water.
How and where does he place the magnets (and of what size)?

Lisa

***


{snip}

Water undergoing shear in a magnetic field gets restructured.  According 
to Brookes this results in among other things an increase in 
solubility.  I also know that my son uses magnets on his house water 
which appear to stop all scaling in his pipes by the same mechanism.  

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RE: CShelp re cholesterol

2010-10-04 Thread Lisa
I'm taking serrapeptase...but at the dosage on the bottle (I've read that
others increase it substanstially). Marshall, can you give an approximate
dosage amount in which this would happen in about a month?

Lisa

-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 3:15 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CShelp re cholesterol

  I concur with that completely.  Cholesterol being deposited in the 
veins is not due to high cholesterol but to inflammation of the veins.  
That is why research has found that anti-inflammation agents such as 
aspirin, and low level antibiotics reduce this problem.  The correct 
answer is to remove the inflammation, not remove the stuff to try and 
reduce it.  If you get rid of the inflammation and take some 
serrapeptase your veins will be as clean as a new born babe in a month.

Marshall



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Re: CShelp re cholesterol / serrapeptase

2010-10-04 Thread Marshall Dudley

 On 10/4/2010 3:29 PM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 10/4/2010 3:15:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
mdud...@king-cart.com writes:


If you get rid of the inflammation and take some
serrapeptase your veins will be as clean as a new born babe in a
month.

Marshall

*How much serrapeptase should one take ???  Lois*
I would take no more than 200,000 a day until they are clean, to give 
the body time to strengthen the vessels as the plaque is removed, and to 
also to prevent large chunks from breaking off.  Once the veins are 
clear, probably a month unless you have some virtually totally blocked 
veins, drop it to maybe 40,000 every day or probably every few days to 
keep them clean.


Marshall


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Re: CSremove from list

2010-10-04 Thread Marshall Dudley
 There is also a character missing after the Subject, I think a 
colon. As a result the subject is totally blank in the email.


Marshall

On 10/4/2010 3:38 PM, Norton, Steve wrote:

I notice that if you click the Unsubscribe link below you get a
message generated with subscribe in the Subject line. Shouldn't the
subject be unsubscribe? Is this what is causing people trouble when
they try to unsubscribe?

  - Steve N



   On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Robert L. Booth
 zebulan5...@yahoo.commailto:zebulan5...@yahoo.com  wrote:
   Please take me off this list.  Thank you.
 
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Re: CShelp re cholesterol

2010-10-04 Thread Marshall Dudley
 LOL. Statistically exactly half the population would have higher then 
average and half would have lower than average cholesterol, so if the 
heart attack statistics are the same that means that cholesterol has 
little if any effect.


Marshall

On 10/4/2010 3:42 PM, Alan Jones wrote:
I also agree.  Also, I have read that only about half of heart attack 
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CSCS: Re Cholesterol

2010-10-04 Thread Harold MacDonald
Some 40+ years ago I was diagnosed as having high cholesterol.At this time I 
was obese hovering around 185/190 lbs.
No treatment action was taken all these years re same.
It took me almost 30 years to reach my weight level now of 150 lbs.,ideal.
Last year I had occasion to have a full blood work-up and according to the 
results,my Cholesterol levels were right on.
And,for approx. 12 years I have been taking Lecithin granules as a daily 
supplement .

.
Harold
.

Re: CSPrill beads

2010-10-04 Thread Marshall Dudley

 Yes it was lime scale, specifically calcium carbonate.

Marshall

On 10/4/2010 3:18 PM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote:


I can now report some very definite and observable results.  I would
normally have to drain and use acid on the inside of the container
every
month or two to remove all the scale that would form on the
inside.  Not
only have I not had to do this, there is still absolutely no scale
forming at all, not even a trace.

*Hi Marshall, What is the scale  you mention ??? Is it lime ???  Our 
water has a heavy lime content  it does cause trouble at times... Lois*



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Re: CShelp re cholesterol

2010-10-04 Thread Sandee George
Hi There Marshall, I know we have had this question asked before,  
however I just went to solaray website and found the following and  
would like your comment on same or if you have a better suggestion -  
thanks

Regards
Sandee


Quantity   4
Item ID 12719
Solaray - Serrapeptase - 90ct - 20,000 Units @ 10.50 each $42.00
Subtotal
$42.00
Shipping/Handling:
$6.00


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Re: CSPrill beads

2010-10-04 Thread Marshall Dudley
 I will try to find out which units he got.  There are a quite a few 
companies offering them.  He has one between his well and tank, another 
between his tank and house and another between his tank and ground water 
heat pump.  I think he has a 4th going into his hot water heater.


Marshall

On 10/4/2010 4:00 PM, Lisa wrote:

Marshall,

I'm interested in knowing just how your son uses magnets on his house water.
How and where does he place the magnets (and of what size)?

Lisa

***


{snip}

Water undergoing shear in a magnetic field gets restructured.  According
to Brookes this results in among other things an increase in
solubility.  I also know that my son uses magnets on his house water
which appear to stop all scaling in his pipes by the same mechanism.

{snip}



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Re: CShelp re cholesterol

2010-10-04 Thread Marshall Dudley
 Any brand would probably prove satisfactory, but I think you can get 
better price per unit if you get it in 40,000 or 50,000 units.  I do 
konw that the Drs Best brand has proven effective for a number of people.


Marshall

On 10/4/2010 4:35 PM, Sandee George wrote:
Hi There Marshall, I know we have had this question asked before, 
however I just went to solaray website and found the following and 
would like your comment on same or if you have a better suggestion - 
thanks

Regards
Sandee


Quantity   4
Item ID 12719
Solaray - Serrapeptase - 90ct - 20,000 Units @ 10.50 each $42.00
Subtotal
$42.00
Shipping/Handling:
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Re[2]: CSPromising protocol.....Toe Fungus

2010-10-04 Thread S Campbell
Bob,
Many thanks for that suggestion, I will definitely look into it. Turpentine is 
a new one to me though I see it has been used for various things for hundreds 
of years.
Sheila



...
Sunday, October 3, 2010, 10:38:01 PM, you wrote:

 Sheila,

   I'm having great success using pure gum terpentine on an infected
 toenail.  I swab it on twice daily and it seems to be working.  All of the
 pain I had with this has disappeared in less than a week.  My nail is 
 growing out pink near the nail bed.

 Bob
 - Original Message - 
 From: S Campbell je...@jscampbell.co.uk
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: CSPromising protocol.Toe Fungus


 Brooks Bradley: Re: your post of August 13, 2010, on toenail fungus 
 treatment using saturated bicarbonate of soda plus DMSO plus a laser 
 pointer.

 Hello Brooks, this sounds very interesting and my husband would like to 
 try it as he has tried many other methods with little success. Could you 
 please give us some more background on this unusual protocol? 
 Specifically, why were you using saturated bicarbonate of soda, and what 
 is the purpose of the laser pointer light?
 Many thanks,
 Sheila


 ...
 Friday, August 13, 2010, 9:30:41 PM, you wrote:

Recently, we concluded a brief.but promising DIY protocol
 designed to address toenail fungi colonies.  This simple methodology 
 yielded
 surprisingly effective abatement/control of expressing fungal insults 
 involving
 the toenailsmost especially the great toe.
The procedure was as follows:  (1) a brief, preliminary 
 foot-soak in
 warm tap-water (5 minutes average);  (2) Using a solution of saturated 
 bicarbonate of soda
 (70% by volume), blended with 30% by volume (Full Strength 
 DMSO)...liberally applied via
 eye dropper or Q-Tip type applicator [thoroughly
 soaked)]insuring the crease between
 the nail wall and the adjoining tissue is filled with liquid, apply
 (3) the beam of a conventional laser pointer (or about a 3500 mw LED
 bulb)held very close (within
 about 1/8th inch of tissue/nail surface).for a total exposure
 time of 10 minutes [approximately] per toenail.  Actually this works
 out to be about 2.5 minutes per side of
 the nail, proper. No harm was caused by the occasional, accidental
 touching of the toenail/tissue surfaces.  Although our arrangement
 was somewhat more elaborate (using 4 units in a single assembly) and
 allowed us to reduce the total time to less than 3 minutes per
 toenailtime is, probably, less expensive for mostthan
 assembling the more extensive array.
   One interesting phenomenon was that from among a family
 of presenting fungal agents (4 varieties, in total) NONE proved
 resistant to the control effects of the sodium bicarbonate.
Interestingly, the sodium bicarbonate X DMSO , alone,
 yielded quite acceptable control---albeit over a rather extended
 period of time (10 to 12 days).adding
 the laser or LED ancillary function, dramatically accelerated the 
 favorable
 response time (5 to 7 days).  This protocol was employed 3 times
 daily for the first 3 days and twice daily thereafter.
In the worst cases (where the entire under-surface of the nail 
 was presenting
 an insult) the time required for favorable resolution was around 30 days.
This was not the only protocol that proved
 effectivebut was by far the most COST-EFFECTIVE in both time and
 expense.  This protocol proved to be simple, effective and
 economical.ideal for the DIY experimenter.
   Sincerely, Brooks Bradley.


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Re: CSPrill beads

2010-10-04 Thread Leo Regehr
I place magnets around my shower hose, and it feels different.
Leo
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lisa 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 2:00 PM
  Subject: RE: CSPrill beads


  Marshall,

  I'm interested in knowing just how your son uses magnets on his house water.
  How and where does he place the magnets (and of what size)?

  Lisa

  ***


  {snip}

  Water undergoing shear in a magnetic field gets restructured.  According 
  to Brookes this results in among other things an increase in 
  solubility.  I also know that my son uses magnets on his house water 
  which appear to stop all scaling in his pipes by the same mechanism.  

  {snip}



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Re: CSPromising protocol.....Toe Fungus

2010-10-04 Thread Dan Nave
Dr. David Williams is talking up tree resin, presumably pine resin, as
a topical for this sort of thing.  The resin contains both turpentine
and rosin.  It is sticky, so the formulation mixes it with olive oil
and vaseline.  He says it is good for nail fungus and cuts/scrapes
etc.

Dan


On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Sheila,

     I'm having great success using pure gum terpentine on an infected
 toenail.  I swab it on twice daily and it seems to be working.  All of the
 pain I had with this has disappeared in less than a week.  My nail is
 growing out pink near the nail bed.

 Bob
 - Original Message - From: S Campbell je...@jscampbell.co.uk
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 11:15 AM
 Subject: Re: CSPromising protocol.Toe Fungus


 Brooks Bradley: Re: your post of August 13, 2010, on toenail fungus
 treatment using saturated bicarbonate of soda plus DMSO plus a laser
 pointer.

 Hello Brooks, this sounds very interesting and my husband would like to
 try it as he has tried many other methods with little success. Could you
 please give us some more background on this unusual protocol? Specifically,
 why were you using saturated bicarbonate of soda, and what is the purpose of
 the laser pointer light?
 Many thanks,
 Sheila


 ...
 Friday, August 13, 2010, 9:30:41 PM, you wrote:

           Recently, we concluded a brief.but promising DIY protocol
 designed to address toenail fungi colonies.  This simple methodology
 yielded
 surprisingly effective abatement/control of expressing fungal insults
 involving
 the toenailsmost especially the great toe.
           The procedure was as follows:  (1) a brief, preliminary
 foot-soak in
 warm tap-water (5 minutes average);  (2) Using a solution of saturated
 bicarbonate of soda
 (70% by volume), blended with 30% by volume (Full Strength
 DMSO)...liberally applied via
 eye dropper or Q-Tip type applicator [thoroughly
 soaked)]insuring the crease between
 the nail wall and the adjoining tissue is filled with liquid, apply
 (3) the beam of a conventional laser pointer (or about a 3500 mw LED
 bulb)held very close (within
 about 1/8th inch of tissue/nail surface).for a total exposure
 time of 10 minutes [approximately] per toenail.  Actually this works
 out to be about 2.5 minutes per side of
 the nail, proper. No harm was caused by the occasional, accidental
 touching of the toenail/tissue surfaces.  Although our arrangement
 was somewhat more elaborate (using 4 units in a single assembly) and
 allowed us to reduce the total time to less than 3 minutes per
 toenailtime is, probably, less expensive for mostthan
 assembling the more extensive array.
          One interesting phenomenon was that from among a family
 of presenting fungal agents (4 varieties, in total) NONE proved
 resistant to the control effects of the sodium bicarbonate.
           Interestingly, the sodium bicarbonate X DMSO , alone,
 yielded quite acceptable control---albeit over a rather extended
 period of time (10 to 12 days).adding
 the laser or LED ancillary function, dramatically accelerated the
 favorable
 response time (5 to 7 days).  This protocol was employed 3 times
 daily for the first 3 days and twice daily thereafter.
           In the worst cases (where the entire under-surface of the nail
 was presenting
 an insult) the time required for favorable resolution was around 30 days.
           This was not the only protocol that proved
 effectivebut was by far the most COST-EFFECTIVE in both time and
 expense.  This protocol proved to be simple, effective and
 economical.ideal for the DIY experimenter.
                      Sincerely, Brooks Bradley.


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RE: CShelp re cholesterol

2010-10-04 Thread Renee
Be careful of taking the serrapeptase and don't try to push it.  Follow the
dosage no the bottle.  Taking too much too fast can 'chunk' off bits of
plaque which can travel and cause strokes.  Happened to 2 people on 2
different lists I'm on, trying to get rid of their plaque too fast.  

It's safe is used as directed.

Samala,
Renee 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
 
I'm taking serrapeptase...but at the dosage on the bottle (I've read that
others increase it substanstially). Marshall, can you give an approximate
dosage amount in which this would happen in about a month?
 

CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #814

2010-10-04 Thread Melly Bag
Someone has posted in another group that a friend of his took too much 
serrapeptase that instead of dissolving the plaques, it broke off and caused a 
stroke.  He advised not to go over 40,000.  Is this correct, Marshall?  How 
does one know if the veins are inflamed?
 
Melly
 
 
 


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From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com
Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #814
To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, October 4, 2010, 4:22 PM



Re: CShelp re cholesterol

2010-10-04 Thread Brickeyk
Chelation therapy using EDTA IV's lowered my cholesterol from 285 to 150  
back in 1996. I began to fear that my cholesterol was getting too low. My  
chelation Mexican DR Medina laughed and said stop at the local Casino in  Yuma 
Friday night and eat their prime rib dinner, that will bring it back up and 
 we can start the chelation treatment again. A never ending cycle.
Brickey


Re: CShelp re cholesterol

2010-10-04 Thread Alan Jones
Exactly.

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.comwrote:

  LOL. Statistically exactly half the population would have higher then
 average and half would have lower than average cholesterol, so if the heart
 attack statistics are the same that means that cholesterol has little if any
 effect.

 Marshall


 On 10/4/2010 3:42 PM, Alan Jones wrote:

 I also agree.  Also, I have read that only about half of heart attack
 victims have high cholesterol.


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Re: CShelp re cholesterol Question

2010-10-04 Thread Deborah Gerard
Is there any high level that one should be concerned about?  Is there 
anyother 
syptom that goes along with high cholesterol one should watch for?
thanks in advance,
Debbie





From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, October 4, 2010 2:09:31 PM
Subject: Re: CShelp re cholesterol

I have read in many knowledgeable sources that 'high' cholesterol is 
irrelevant.  We all need cholesterol all the time to repair everything in our 
bodies.  The brain is largely cholesterol so to try and reduce it would be 
madness in my opinion.  Also, we are all different and what might be deemed 
high 
by the medics, could indeed be perfectly normal for *that* person so to mess 
with it could potentially be disastrous!  dee

On 4 Oct 2010, at 18:12, needling around wrote:

 A friend in his 30s has been found to have high cholesterol.  I did some 
research in the archives and sent along some info.  I was wondering if anyone 
had any specific recommendations for this situation.  He is not overweight.
 Thanks.
 PT
  
  


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Re: CShelp re cholesterol

2010-10-04 Thread Deborah Gerard
Marcshall,
If takeing low level anti-biotic's would lower inflamation wouldn't CS do the 
same job maybe?
thanks Deb





From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, October 4, 2010 3:15:04 PM
Subject: Re: CShelp re cholesterol

  I concur with that completely.  Cholesterol being deposited in the 
veins is not due to high cholesterol but to inflammation of the veins.  
That is why research has found that anti-inflammation agents such as 
aspirin, and low level antibiotics reduce this problem.  The correct 
answer is to remove the inflammation, not remove the stuff to try and 
reduce it.  If you get rid of the inflammation and take some 
serrapeptase your veins will be as clean as a new born babe in a month.

Marshall



  

Re: CShelp re cholesterol

2010-10-04 Thread Trem
Too much got me.  Had a stroke.

Trem
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  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 4:00 PM
  Subject: RE: CShelp re cholesterol


Be careful of taking the serrapeptase and don't try to push it.  Follow 
the dosage no the bottle.  Taking too much too fast can 'chunk' off bits of 
plaque which can travel and cause strokes.  Happened to 2 people on 2 different 
lists I'm on, trying to get rid of their plaque too fast.  

It's safe is used as directed.

Samala,
Renee 




---Original Message---


I'm taking serrapeptase...but at the dosage on the bottle (I've read 
that
others increase it substanstially). Marshall, can you give an 
approximate
dosage amount in which this would happen in about a month?
   
  
   



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Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C from the VitaMix blender

2010-10-04 Thread sol

Jon,
   I use either my Vitamix or a stick blender to make my liposomal 
vit C. I can only say that it stays completely combined, and nothing 
drops out. And I can take higher doses with no stomach upset and no 
diarrhea, which I invariably got from low doses of plain vit C. I don't 
know if I get all the benefits of the Liposomal C made in an ultrasonic 
cleaner, but the benefits I do get are sufficient for my purposes.

sol

Jon wrote:
I see from the list archives that a Lot of list members have VitaMix 
blenders.


Is there any new info on the use of the VitaMix to make Liposomal 
Vitamin C?  In particular, do we know what % of the mix achieves 
encapsulation?  The last news I saw was that the ultrasonic cleaner 
achieves 70% encapsulation and a regular household blender achieves 
about 20% encapsulation.


Also, do we know how the liposome particle size compares between the 
standard ultrasonic-cleaner method vs the VitaMix?


Thanks!
Jon








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Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-04 Thread sol
Craving for and high consumption of sodium can be an indicator of 
various imbalances. I would not be too quick to reduce sodium intake 
without investigating adrenal function and also getting the best most 
complete mineral balance analysis you can.
Some people need a high sodium intake, though that goes completely 
against current conventional medical opinion.

sol



On 10/1/2010 11:09 PM, Costumes wrote:
... Now if we could just get my Dad to stop eating salt and sodium 
 The Dr's told him he HAD to make improvements in his diet ... 
but he has no intention of doing it   He could care less about 
trying to do HIS PART to protect his health.  If your husband shares 
your desire for good health, then that will certainly be a huge 
blessing on his behalf !!!

jan



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CScholesterol

2010-10-04 Thread PT Ferrance
Hi,
Thanks to everyone who wrote in response to my query about cholesterol.  I have 
passed on the information with instructions to research those areas.
PT

Re: Re[2]: CSPromising protocol.....Toe Fungus

2010-10-04 Thread Bob Banever

Sheila,

 If you use turpentine, make sure it is pure gum terpentine, not 
synthetic or some other kind.


 Bob
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From: S Campbell je...@jscampbell.co.uk

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 3:00 PM
Subject: Re[2]: CSPromising protocol.Toe Fungus



Bob,
Many thanks for that suggestion, I will definitely look into it. 
Turpentine is a new one to me though I see it has been used for various 
things for hundreds of years.

Sheila



...
Sunday, October 3, 2010, 10:38:01 PM, you wrote:


Sheila,



  I'm having great success using pure gum terpentine on an infected
toenail.  I swab it on twice daily and it seems to be working.  All of 
the

pain I had with this has disappeared in less than a week.  My nail is
growing out pink near the nail bed.



Bob
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From: S Campbell je...@jscampbell.co.uk

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 11:15 AM

Subject: Re: CSPromising protocol.Toe Fungus



Brooks Bradley: Re: your post of August 13, 2010, on toenail fungus
treatment using saturated bicarbonate of soda plus DMSO plus a laser
pointer.



Hello Brooks, this sounds very interesting and my husband would like to
try it as he has tried many other methods with little success. Could you
please give us some more background on this unusual protocol?
Specifically, why were you using saturated bicarbonate of soda, and what
is the purpose of the laser pointer light?
Many thanks,
Sheila




...
Friday, August 13, 2010, 9:30:41 PM, you wrote:


   Recently, we concluded a brief.but promising DIY 
protocol

designed to address toenail fungi colonies.  This simple methodology
yielded
surprisingly effective abatement/control of expressing fungal insults
involving
the toenailsmost especially the great toe.
   The procedure was as follows:  (1) a brief, preliminary
foot-soak in
warm tap-water (5 minutes average);  (2) Using a solution of saturated
bicarbonate of soda
(70% by volume), blended with 30% by volume (Full Strength
DMSO)...liberally applied via
eye dropper or Q-Tip type applicator [thoroughly
soaked)]insuring the crease between
the nail wall and the adjoining tissue is filled with liquid, apply
(3) the beam of a conventional laser pointer (or about a 3500 mw LED
bulb)held very close (within
about 1/8th inch of tissue/nail surface).for a total exposure
time of 10 minutes [approximately] per toenail.  Actually this works
out to be about 2.5 minutes per side of
the nail, proper. No harm was caused by the occasional, accidental
touching of the toenail/tissue surfaces.  Although our arrangement
was somewhat more elaborate (using 4 units in a single assembly) and
allowed us to reduce the total time to less than 3 minutes per
toenailtime is, probably, less expensive for mostthan
assembling the more extensive array.
  One interesting phenomenon was that from among a family
of presenting fungal agents (4 varieties, in total) NONE proved
resistant to the control effects of the sodium bicarbonate.
   Interestingly, the sodium bicarbonate X DMSO , alone,
yielded quite acceptable control---albeit over a rather extended
period of time (10 to 12 days).adding
the laser or LED ancillary function, dramatically accelerated the
favorable
response time (5 to 7 days).  This protocol was employed 3 times
daily for the first 3 days and twice daily thereafter.
   In the worst cases (where the entire under-surface of the 
nail

was presenting
an insult) the time required for favorable resolution was around 30 
days.

   This was not the only protocol that proved
effectivebut was by far the most COST-EFFECTIVE in both time and
expense.  This protocol proved to be simple, effective and
economical.ideal for the DIY experimenter.
  Sincerely, Brooks Bradley.




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Re: CShelp re cholesterol / serrapeptase

2010-10-04 Thread Del
I would like to mention that I have just begun taking serrapeptase (about 
160,000 units per day - Doctor's Best) in hopes that it will reduce or cure 
my sinus problems.
I have always had constant post-nasal drip, and as I get older it is 
increasing.
This is especially bad for me as a singer, as the mucus frequently tangles 
around my vocal cords.
My wife told a friend to take serrapeptase for her arthritis (don't know 
why, haven't heard that it does anything for arthritis).  After a year, the 
friend told her that it had not helped her arthritis, but had cleared up her 
sinus problems.

Here's hoping!

Del
- Original Message - 
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: CShelp re cholesterol / serrapeptase



 On 10/4/2010 3:29 PM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 10/4/2010 3:15:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
mdud...@king-cart.com writes:


If you get rid of the inflammation and take some
serrapeptase your veins will be as clean as a new born babe in a
month.

Marshall

*How much serrapeptase should one take ???  Lois*
I would take no more than 200,000 a day until they are clean, to give the 
body time to strengthen the vessels as the plaque is removed, and to also 
to prevent large chunks from breaking off.  Once the veins are clear, 
probably a month unless you have some virtually totally blocked veins, 
drop it to maybe 40,000 every day or probably every few days to keep them 
clean.


Marshall


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CS

2010-10-04 Thread Barbara A.
Since this is my first post, I'll introduce myself by saying I have my own
generator, an SG6 SilverGen. I have some questions regarding getting a
stronger ppm, but for now, I have another issue which came up tonight:

 

I have a friend who is trying to set me straight about using colloidal
silver. Here is her email to me:

Barb,

Had some time to look up this substance on a couple of trusted websites for
herbals and other things.

This is one we use in the health region.

I had some concerns as the consequences in using this substance are severe.

Just look under the herbs section.

Take care

Judy 



database 

Natural standard 

http://www.naturalstandard.com/naturalstandard/index.asp

 

I can't access the site without a subscription. Has anyone heard of it? 

It bothers me that she is only looking at sites her hospital uses for
research. When I told her I use colloidal for everything from a sore throat,
eye infections, cuts, use it on my animals, she told me the placebo effect
of these alternative therapies is a remarkable thing.  

 

So I need some ammunition! Since she is very technical, a good published
study would be great!

 

Thanks. Barbara

 



Re: CShelp re cholesterol

2010-10-04 Thread Krisstyna Holmquist
Red Yeast Rice...I've seen it work well in many, many people and I've seen
doctors blown away by it's results. It is a statin like the prescription
drugs out there, but is all natural and much safer.

Kriss

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Sandy hollis302...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi PT,

 I've heard chromium picolinate helps. I once went in for some tests at the
 Dr and for my last meal before the cut off time for eating was greasy
 barbecued pork ribs [I know, I know]. I thought for sure my cholesterol
 would be sky high but the test showed it was perfect. I had been taking
 chromium picolinate for about a year so figured what they said about it must
 be true.

 As a side note I no longer eat greasy pork ribs and such...[shiver].

 Sandy

 --- On *Mon, 10/4/10, needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net* wrote:


 From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net
 Subject: CShelp re cholesterol
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, October 4, 2010, 12:12 PM


 A friend in his 30s has been found to have high cholesterol.  I did some
 research in the archives and sent along some info.  I was wondering if
 anyone had any specific recommendations for this situation.  He is not
 overweight.
 Thanks.
 PT







Re: CShelp re cholesterol

2010-10-04 Thread needling around
Thank you but I have read it has the same long term side effects as the statin 
drugs, they just take a little longer to kick in so I don't want to recommend 
it.  After all a statin is a statin natural or synthetic.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: Krisstyna Holmquist 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 11:03 PM
  Subject: Re: CShelp re cholesterol


  Red Yeast Rice...I've seen it work well in many, many people and I've seen 
doctors blown away by it's results. It is a statin like the prescription drugs 
out there, but is all natural and much safer.

  Kriss


  On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Sandy hollis302...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Hi PT,

  I've heard chromium picolinate helps. I once went in for some tests 
at the Dr and for my last meal before the cut off time for eating was greasy 
barbecued pork ribs [I know, I know]. I thought for sure my cholesterol would 
be sky high but the test showed it was perfect. I had been taking chromium 
picolinate for about a year so figured what they said about it must be true.

  As a side note I no longer eat greasy pork ribs and such...[shiver].

  Sandy

  --- On Mon, 10/4/10, needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:


From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net
Subject: CShelp re cholesterol
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, October 4, 2010, 12:12 PM



A friend in his 30s has been found to have high cholesterol.  I did 
some research in the archives and sent along some info.  I was wondering if 
anyone had any specific recommendations for this situation.  He is not 
overweight.
Thanks.
PT

 





RE: CShelp re cholesterol

2010-10-04 Thread Neville Munn

I'd be interested also.

 

To my knowledge silver 'particles' are not uniformally spherical in shape or 
size, but rather are 'random' shapes and sizes.  I postulated some time ago if 
it were possible for these 'random' shapes to form an 'abrasive' action on any 
foreign matter which may be present within the circulatory system.  Of course 
one could imagine that that same abrasive action may also erode that same 
circulatory system...but would it?  Who knows?

 

Now that cholesterol is being put forward as being an inflamation I can see 
that praps I may have been barking up the wrong tree...or was I?  Either way, 
it seems that EIS/CS may in fact be beneficial in assisting the blood pathways 
in remaining fairly clear regardless of it's action...sounds good to me.

 

Any thoughts on the feasability of this too?  Or is my postulation absurd 
and/or ridiculous, and only makes sense to me?

 

N.
 


Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 16:54:19 -0700
From: devorah...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CShelp re cholesterol
To: silver-list@eskimo.com






Marcshall,
If takeing low level anti-biotic's would lower inflamation wouldn't CS do the 
same job maybe?
thanks Deb





From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, October 4, 2010 3:15:04 PM
Subject: Re: CShelp re cholesterol

  I concur with that completely.  Cholesterol being deposited in the 
veins is not due to high cholesterol but to inflammation of the veins.  
That is why research has found that anti-inflammation agents such as 
aspirin, and low level antibiotics reduce this problem.  The correct 
answer is to remove the inflammation, not remove the stuff to try and 
reduce it.  If you get rid of the inflammation and take some 
serrapeptase your veins will be as clean as a new born babe in a month.

Marshall

  

Re: CSQuebec protocol

2010-10-04 Thread Teri
I don't know about the Quebec protocol  but which non Hodgkin's Lymphoma 
are you dealing with?


Teri


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Re: CSQuebec protocol

2010-10-04 Thread needling around

Not sure but the Quebec protocol was written about.
PT

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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: CSQuebec protocol


I don't know about the Quebec protocol  but which non Hodgkin's Lymphoma 
are you dealing with?


Teri


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Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-04 Thread Smitty


  ... Now if we could just get my Dad to stop eating salt and sodium ...


Replace his table salt with sea salt.
(without him knowing)
That way he'll get some minerals too .

Smitty


CSSalt

2010-10-04 Thread Jane MacRoss
In Wild Swans the author described how the Japanese killed the Chinese by 
removing their salt supply - salt is essential to life - and diabetics are 
often salt addicts as the pancreas needs salt.


Jane

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Craving for and high consumption of sodium can be an indicator of
various imbalances. I would not be too quick to reduce sodium intake
without investigating adrenal function and also getting the best most
complete mineral balance analysis you can.
Some people need a high sodium intake, though that goes completely
against current conventional medical opinion.
sol



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