CSLiposomal Vitamin C from the VitaMix blender
I see from the list archives that a Lot of list members have VitaMix blenders. Is there any new info on the use of the VitaMix to make Liposomal Vitamin C? In particular, do we know what % of the mix achieves encapsulation? The last news I saw was that the ultrasonic cleaner achieves 70% encapsulation and a regular household blender achieves about 20% encapsulation. Also, do we know how the liposome particle size compares between the standard ultrasonic-cleaner method vs the VitaMix? Thanks! Jon
CSWARNING! from list owner
I'm always amazed at the difference 24 hours can make. Things weren't going too bad, until somebody decided they are going to try to run the list for me. Robert offered what I would consider a prescription for a spiritual healing modality, little different than EFT or Reiki or other 'energy healing' or otherwise non-physical techniques that sometimes pop up in discussions here. As odd as it may seem to those who are particularly sensitive to the G- word, it was actually a technical post, if largely off topic. I never have and do not now intend for those types of contributions to become a frequent feature of the list or to overwhelm our discussions. That said, Robert's infraction of the list rules was of such a negligible nature that I would only have cautioned him about it, gently, and only if he'd showed signs of making a habit of it. The response to Robert's post by Dave and a few others is a more serious problem. The list rule prohibiting discussion of religion and politics is not intended as a WEAPON to be used by members to enforce THEIR will on other members, but a tool for each member to guide their OWN behavior. Dave labelling Robert's post as ... a bunch of obscene bull shit is an attack that is entirely out of proportion to the provocation and not behavior I intend to tolerate toward *ANY* of my members. First and most obvious, Dave does NOT run the list, I do. It's not his or any other member's job to discipline other members or to complain about their behavior on-list. Such public complaints are disruptive in themselves and are also clearly against the same rules he was so quick to invoke. Your job as members is to contact me privately when, in your opinion, something is going wrong on the list. I will happily accept such input and use it to guide my moderation, many times acting behind the scenes to coach people toward the expected behavior. That's my job, use me. Second, the prohibition on discussions of religion, spirtuality, or the metaphysical is not the same as intolerance OF those beliefs. As I say in the list rules... I am not asking you to de-God everything you say, do or think, however. Brief greetings, thanks, and prayer requests or offerings are acceptable. The occasional God bless, or you're in our prayers will not be seen as a transgression. Yes, Robert's offering was outside those guidelines and not the kind of thing I am going to encourage routinely, but I will also not allow the creation of an environment which is HOSTILE to those who so believe. Intolerance of spirituality is no better or worse in my eyes, as the person who has to moderate the discussion, than the religious intolerance that causes such topics to rapidly descend to the very flames of hell in the first place. So... Tolerance is called for on both sides... ALL sides. Public complaints about other members' behavior or actions are not appropriate or allowed. Aggressive behavior toward other members, who are also my guests here, is *still* prohibited. Lastly, since at least one person mentioned it, let me remind you all that I also consider assaultive or aggressive behavior in private e- mail to other members inappropriate. If you receive such items and they concern you, let me know. Participation in this list should not result in anyone being subjected to such things. For your reference, the list rules reside at www.silverlist.org ... Please re-read them and contact me if you have any further questions. Let the thread die now. Don't respond if somebody else does before they see this message. It may take another day or two for it to completely end. Let it. Thank you, Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list
please remove me from this list. I live in the south I don't need any more fuel to stay warm. -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net Sent: Oct 4, 2010 6:30 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list This isn't about religion...it's about someone not showing the respect they demand and letting other people use his ears for him to insert thoughts he doesn't want to think but is powerless not to. Can't control self, must control you. Superior yet helpless. I once knew someone that would write back to [snail] junk mail addresses demanding it cease instead of using it to start the wood stove and stay warm.well, she stayed warm under the collar, at least, but none of it ever stopped coming. If the wind is blowing, you build a wall and let it go around. Screaming at it only adds to the chill. Ode At 08:12 AM 10/3/2010 -0700, you wrote: Hanneke There was nothing nasty in my response. The religion thing just keeps building and building until it becomes overbearing. The mind has a good deal to do with healing as can be seen everyday. As far as Reiki is concerned I have no knowledge of it and am not bombarded with it daily so I wouldn't notice. Dave On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Hanneke mailto:bloss...@internode.on.netbloss...@internode.on.net wrote: I wonder if I would get such nasty responses if I had suggested to use Reiki.. pretty similar to the kind of spiritual approach Robert suggested. Not sure what you guys are afraid of but if you are afraid of approaching health and health issues other than via mechanical ways, you're missing something in the healing process. I for one believe that the mind is part of healing.. if you call that religion and that scares you, not sure who is having the problems here. At 11:12 PM 3/10/2010, you wrote: The place for ones personal religious or spiritual belief is NOT the public domain. Follow the guidelines, show due consideration for others beliefs and philosophies, and show such support in private, after all, it is an individuals personal philosophy and it should remain as such, hence one will avoid any flak which is bound to be incoming. Some take religion and/or spirituallity quite serious, and that's a double edged sword, so it would be better to keep it private and avoid inciting such responses from those who hold a different philosophy. You're entitled to yours, I'm entitled to mine, keep that in mind and everything'll be sweetsay n'more, say n'more. N. From: mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.comcking...@nycap.rr.com To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSDave Darrin remove from list Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 07:59:03 -0400 Oh, get a GRIP! The mean spiritness being shown is way more offensive than an innocuous affirmation for healing. PC really sucks! Chuck WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may make you think you are whispering when you are not. On 10/3/2010 12:52:37 AM, Neville Munn (mailto:one.red...@hotmail.comone.red...@hotmail.com) wrote: Quote: Use the power of thought and hands of God and place what ever you want to on his incision if it is for his highest good. I infuse God's Divine Love into this situation end quote. Well if that don't smack of religion I dunno what does slapping forehead...? If he meant Ra the sun god, the sacred cow of India, or Inca, Mayan or Aztec human sacrifice, then he should have made that clear and it probly wouldn't have been so offensive. Some reserve the right to NOT subscribe to such ideals, and that r -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.orghttp://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.htmlhttp://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWARNING! from list owner
please remove me. I have tried to opt out of the group but that didn't work. -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Sent: Oct 3, 2010 9:45 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: zebulan5...@yahoo.com, davedar...@gmail.com Subject: CSWARNING! from list owner I'm always amazed at the difference 24 hours can make. Things weren't going too bad, until somebody decided they are going to try to run the list for me. Robert offered what I would consider a prescription for a spiritual healing modality, little different than EFT or Reiki or other 'energy healing' or otherwise non-physical techniques that sometimes pop up in discussions here. As odd as it may seem to those who are particularly sensitive to the G- word, it was actually a technical post, if largely off topic. I never have and do not now intend for those types of contributions to become a frequent feature of the list or to overwhelm our discussions. That said, Robert's infraction of the list rules was of such a negligible nature that I would only have cautioned him about it, gently, and only if he'd showed signs of making a habit of it. The response to Robert's post by Dave and a few others is a more serious problem. The list rule prohibiting discussion of religion and politics is not intended as a WEAPON to be used by members to enforce THEIR will on other members, but a tool for each member to guide their OWN behavior. Dave labelling Robert's post as ... a bunch of obscene bull shit is an attack that is entirely out of proportion to the provocation and not behavior I intend to tolerate toward *ANY* of my members. First and most obvious, Dave does NOT run the list, I do. It's not his or any other member's job to discipline other members or to complain about their behavior on-list. Such public complaints are disruptive in themselves and are also clearly against the same rules he was so quick to invoke. Your job as members is to contact me privately when, in your opinion, something is going wrong on the list. I will happily accept such input and use it to guide my moderation, many times acting behind the scenes to coach people toward the expected behavior. That's my job, use me. Second, the prohibition on discussions of religion, spirtuality, or the metaphysical is not the same as intolerance OF those beliefs. As I say in the list rules... I am not asking you to de-God everything you say, do or think, however. Brief greetings, thanks, and prayer requests or offerings are acceptable. The occasional God bless, or you're in our prayers will not be seen as a transgression. Yes, Robert's offering was outside those guidelines and not the kind of thing I am going to encourage routinely, but I will also not allow the creation of an environment which is HOSTILE to those who so believe. Intolerance of spirituality is no better or worse in my eyes, as the person who has to moderate the discussion, than the religious intolerance that causes such topics to rapidly descend to the very flames of hell in the first place. So... Tolerance is called for on both sides... ALL sides. Public complaints about other members' behavior or actions are not appropriate or allowed. Aggressive behavior toward other members, who are also my guests here, is *still* prohibited. Lastly, since at least one person mentioned it, let me remind you all that I also consider assaultive or aggressive behavior in private e- mail to other members inappropriate. If you receive such items and they concern you, let me know. Participation in this list should not result in anyone being subjected to such things. For your reference, the list rules reside at www.silverlist.org ... Please re-read them and contact me if you have any further questions. Let the thread die now. Don't respond if somebody else does before they see this message. It may take another day or two for it to completely end. Let it. Thank you, Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list
This isn't about religion...it's about someone not showing the respect they demand and letting other people use his ears for him to insert thoughts he doesn't want to think but is powerless not to. Can't control self, must control you. Superior yet helpless. I once knew someone that would write back to [snail] junk mail addresses demanding it cease instead of using it to start the wood stove and stay warm.well, she stayed warm under the collar, at least, but none of it ever stopped coming. If the wind is blowing, you build a wall and let it go around. Screaming at it only adds to the chill. Ode At 08:12 AM 10/3/2010 -0700, you wrote: Hanneke There was nothing nasty in my response. The religion thing just keeps building and building until it becomes overbearing. The mind has a good deal to do with healing as can be seen everyday. As far as Reiki is concerned I have no knowledge of it and am not bombarded with it daily so I wouldn't notice. Dave On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Hanneke mailto:bloss...@internode.on.netbloss...@internode.on.net wrote: I wonder if I would get such nasty responses if I had suggested to use Reiki.. pretty similar to the kind of spiritual approach Robert suggested. Not sure what you guys are afraid of but if you are afraid of approaching health and health issues other than via mechanical ways, you're missing something in the healing process. I for one believe that the mind is part of healing.. if you call that religion and that scares you, not sure who is having the problems here. At 11:12 PM 3/10/2010, you wrote: The place for ones personal religious or spiritual belief is NOT the public domain. Follow the guidelines, show due consideration for others beliefs and philosophies, and show such support in private, after all, it is an individuals personal philosophy and it should remain as such, hence one will avoid any flak which is bound to be incoming. Some take religion and/or spirituallity quite serious, and that's a double edged sword, so it would be better to keep it private and avoid inciting such responses from those who hold a different philosophy. You're entitled to yours, I'm entitled to mine, keep that in mind and everything'll be sweetsay n'more, say n'more. N. From: mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.comcking...@nycap.rr.com To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSDave Darrin remove from list Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 07:59:03 -0400 Oh, get a GRIP! The mean spiritness being shown is way more offensive than an innocuous affirmation for healing. PC really sucks! Chuck WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may make you think you are whispering when you are not. On 10/3/2010 12:52:37 AM, Neville Munn (mailto:one.red...@hotmail.comone.red...@hotmail.com) wrote: Quote: Use the power of thought and hands of God and place what ever you want to on his incision if it is for his highest good. I infuse God's Divine Love into this situation end quote. Well if that don't smack of religion I dunno what does slapping forehead...? If he meant Ra the sun god, the sacred cow of India, or Inca, Mayan or Aztec human sacrifice, then he should have made that clear and it probly wouldn't have been so offensive. Some reserve the right to NOT subscribe to such ideals, and that r -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.orghttp://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.htmlhttp://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS KayKelly -unsubscribe Mike will help
In a message dated 10/4/2010 5:02:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kayke...@mindspring.com writes: please remove me. I have tried to opt out of the group but that didn't work HI, Kay or Kelly, If you can't find a way just e-mail Mike he will help you. Good luck, sorry you are leaving. Lois _mdev...@eskimo.com_ (mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com)
Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list
please remove me from this list. Done! Peace, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSQuebec protocol
Does anyone know anything about the Quebec protocol for non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma? It was mentioned in the Strauss Heart Drops newsletter but it seems they do not keep a copy of their newsletters so I was not able to access it. Google turned up empty also. Thanks for any help you can give. PT
Re: CSOn a personal note............
I believe an alternative to cutting down on salt is to increase ones pure water consumption. What is important is the ratio of the two, if you drink plenty of water excess salt is easily flushed from the body. Marshall On 10/1/2010 11:09 PM, Costumes wrote: ... Now if we could just get my Dad to stop eating salt and sodium The Dr's told him he HAD to make improvements in his diet ... but he has no intention of doing it He could care less about trying to do HIS PART to protect his health. If your husband shares your desire for good health, then that will certainly be a huge blessing on his behalf !!! jan Hi Jan. Thanks in advance for the prayers -- it's appreciated. And thanks also for the encouraging words -- your Dad was only in the hospital for 4 days? Wow -- that's amazing. I hope my husband does as well. Thanks for your post -- it's given me a bright ray of hope. MA MaryAnn, my Dad (84) had his aortic replaced, and a tumor removed from the mytral valve ... back in the spring, in Atlanta. The whole procedure went as smoothly as could be. He was in the hospital for 4 days, and now his heart is stronger than ever ... . Will say some prayers for your hubby :) jan My husband is at the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio right now. He will have open-heart surgery on Tuesday (aortic valve replacement and cardiac myeomectomy). I'll be driving there on Monday to be there for the surgery, and will remain in Cleveland while he's in the hospital. Of course, I'm worried about the surgery itself, but I'm more worried about the opportunities for infections while he's there. So I'm taking a gallon of CS -- is that enough? I'd also like to take some CS gel (courtesy of Ode's kit). I don't know how the hospital staff would feel about an unknown gel product on the incision itself, so I may not get that done until we're out of there. Any advice from anyone will be greatly appreciated. MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver particles on bottom of jar
On 10/1/2010 11:36 PM, MaryAnn Helland wrote: Hi Dan. Thanks for that information. I was using (and have been, for years) a term that is used in my CS manual for describing the process by which silver particles leave the electrodes. Oddly enough -- when I Googled it, they didn't even have that word spelled that way. They have he word *sinter* -- and it does have a different meaning, you're right. I will check a dictionary as well. So -- OK -- large particles of silver aren't disseminated (howzat?) from the electrodes *as* large particles, but the rapid dissemination results in agglomeration which becomes large particles. Right? Depends on the process. For the electrolytic process we use that is correct. Also for evaporation method it is true. But for sputtering method they are blown off as particles. There is only one company I know of which uses the sputtering method and they make almost 100% pure colloid. Marshall MA - Original Message From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com First of all, scinter or scintering is the wrong word for what you are trying to describe. It is inappropriate to use that word in this context. Look it up in a dictionary, or Google it. Even so, I don't believe that large particles of silver are undercut and break off the electrodes in any significant way. On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 7:34 AM, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Jan. Usually when there is silver laying at the bottom of the jar, that is silver that scintered off the silver bars too fast, and is therefore too large-particle to remain suspended in the distilled water. It could have been aided by some kind of film on the interior of the jar, or something less than perfect in the distilled water. The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic c discussions:mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devourmailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions:mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devourmailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver particles on bottom of jar
I believe that the process is as follows: 1. the OH and H of the water molecule are attracted to opposite electrodes. 2. When the OH reaches the anode it reacts with a silver atom producing AgOH, that is silver hydroxide 3. The silver hydroxides tend to bang into each other and silver particles in colloidal form near the electrode and produce a silver particle or enlarge it. The remaining OH combines producing water and oxygent. Marshall On 10/2/2010 3:13 AM, Neville Munn wrote: What about 'repelled?' If I understand the process correctly, doesn't it require a minimum voltage to cause the silver to be 'repelled' from the electrode in the form of ions? As those ions are in constant rapid movement in the water {I believe that's called Zeta potential} they collide with each other and some 'stick' to each other {I believe that's called van der Waals force of mutual attraction/repulsion} forming atomic clusters of those silver ions...commonly referred to as 'particles', and as some may collide more than others that's where larger 'particles?' are formed. Howzat Sir/Maam? Am I close? Do I get a star? g N. Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 20:36:03 -0700 From: marmar...@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: CSSilver particles on bottom of jar To: silver-list@eskimo.com Hi Dan. Thanks for that information. I was using (and have been, for years) a term that is used in my CS manual for describing the process by which silver particles leave the electrodes. Oddly enough -- when I Googled it, they didn't even have that word spelled that way. They have he word *sinter* -- and it does have a different meaning, you're right. I will check a dictionary as well. So -- OK -- large particles of silver aren't disseminated (howzat?) from the electrodes *as* large particles, but the rapid dissemination results in agglomeration which becomes large particles. Right? MA - Original Message From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com First of all, scinter or scintering is the wrong word for what you are trying to describe. It is inappropriate to use that word in this context. Look it up in a dictionary, or Google it. Even so, I don't believe that large particles of silver are undercut and break off the electrodes in any significant way. On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 7:34 AM, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Jan. Usually when there is silver laying at the bottom of the jar, that is silver that scintered off the silver bars too fast, and is therefore too large-particle to remain suspended in the distilled water. It could have been aided by some kind of film on the interior of the jar, or something less than perfect in the distilled water. The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic c discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list
I agree. One has multiple bodies, the physical, astral and spiritual to name a few. Healing one without the other never leads to long term success. One needs to be holistic in that ALL bodies should be healed. Adding intent to anything physically done is just as important as the physical stuff. That was the secret of The Secret. Marshall On 10/2/2010 4:03 PM, Sandy wrote: No doubt I'll regret this but just so you know, Dave what Robert said was in no way religious...it was spiritual. Had he invoked the name of a church or some church doctrine oe was trying to force his views on you then you could consider that religious. You might want to learn the difference. Besides, from what I can tell Robert was not addressing his comment to you. Doesn't Mike also have some sort of rule about being civil? Sandy --- On Sat, 10/2/10, Dave Darrindavedar...@gmail.com wrote: Now maybe you understand why Mike says to keep religion off the list. By the way take me off this list doesn't unsubscribe you. Dave -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions:mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devourmailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list
There is no such thing as no particular religion. That is like saying no particular disease, all disease is a particular disease, or it is not a disease at all. Discussing spiritual topics as to health is allowed, discussing religion, even in the abstract like you are doing is not allowed. Please take any discussions on religion to the off topic list where I will be happy to explain your error in logic. Marshall On 10/2/2010 11:50 PM, Dave Darrin wrote: Not any particular religion but religion never the less. Get real! Dave On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Sandy hollis302...@yahoo.com mailto:hollis302...@yahoo.com wrote: No doubt I'll regret this but just so you know, Dave what Robert said was in no way religious...it was spiritual. Had he invoked the name of a church or some church doctrine oe was trying to force his views on you then you could consider that religious. You might want to learn the difference. Besides, from what I can tell Robert was not addressing his comment to you. Doesn't Mike also have some sort of rule about being civil? Sandy --- On Sat, 10/2/10, Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com mailto:davedar...@gmail.com wrote: Now maybe you understand why Mike says to keep religion off the list. By the way take me off this list doesn't unsubscribe you. Dave -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list
You are perfectly welcome to substitute whatever you want for God. Creator, Almighty, all that is, universe, angels, the great spirit, the solar system's nexus or whatever, it does not matter. It is the thought that counts and which carries the energy to heal. Marshall On 10/3/2010 12:52 AM, Neville Munn wrote: Quote: Use the power of thought and hands of *God *and place what ever you want to on his incision if it is for his highest good. I infuse *God's* Divine Love into this situation end quote. Well if that don't smack of religion I dunno what does slapping forehead...? If he meant Ra the sun god, the sacred cow of India, or Inca, Mayan or Aztec human sacrifice, then he should have made that clear and it probly wouldn't have been so offensive. Some reserve the right to NOT subscribe to such ideals, and that right should be RESPECTED! N. Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 20:50:10 -0700 Subject: Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list From: davedar...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Not any particular religion but religion never the less. Get real! Dave On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Sandy hollis302...@yahoo.com mailto:hollis302...@yahoo.com wrote: No doubt I'll regret this but just so you know, Dave what Robert said was in no way religious...it was spiritual. Had he invoked the name of a church or some church doctrine oe was trying to force his views on you then you could consider that religious. You might want to learn the difference. Besides, from what I can tell Robert was not addressing his comment to you. Doesn't Mike also have some sort of rule about being civil? Sandy --- On Sat, 10/2/10, Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com mailto:davedar...@gmail.com wrote: Now maybe you understand why Mike says to keep religion off the list. By the way take me off this list doesn't unsubscribe you. Dave -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSremove from list
Please either unsubscribe or take this to the off topic list. Religions topics are not allowed here!! Mike, where are you. Marshall On 10/3/2010 11:21 AM, Dave Darrin wrote: Dee Thank you for the insight. The biggest Con man on earth is the Pope and followed by millions who don't know better( sheep?) Enough said on this subject. Lets just drop it like a hot potato. Dave On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org mailto:d...@deetroy.org wrote: But it could be offensive to those who don't subscribe to the god theory and see it as a mighty con by control freaks. However, I'm sure it was kindly meant by the poster. dee On 2 Oct 2010, at 20:56, needling around wrote: As one who has spent years studying it, I would hardly call what was offered religion and I, personally, did not find it offensive... merely a kindness offered from one list member to another. Rev. PT - Original Message - From: Dave Darrin To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 3:26 PM Subject: Re: CSremove from list Now maybe you understand why Mike says to keep religion off the list. By the way take me off this list doesn't unsubscribe you. Dave On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Robert L. Booth zebulan5...@yahoo.com mailto:zebulan5...@yahoo.com wrote: Please take me off this list. Thank you. Robert Booth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CShelp re cholesterol
A friend in his 30s has been found to have high cholesterol. I did some research in the archives and sent along some info. I was wondering if anyone had any specific recommendations for this situation. He is not overweight. Thanks. PT
Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list
Posting to a forum is always a problem. As one progresses spiritually they find that at some point they realize that giving information to someone that does not want it is infringing on their free will. While this can be easily avoided on a one on one situation, for a forum it is impossible, for to maintain a level of knowledge no higher than the lowest calibrating member will not assist anyone. One has to shoot more for the average level of the list. For instance there are things I post on the off topic list which I will not post here because it would infringe on the belief system of some of those on this list. Unfortunately Dave calibrates much much lower than the average person on this list (25 vs 565), and it is very obvious that he is misplaced, this is not the forum for him. He needs to find a list that calibrates no more than 200 which is the neutral point to be comfortable and where his free will to believe what he wants is not being infringed on. Marshall On 10/3/2010 2:09 PM, Malcolm wrote: Attacking someone's spiritual offering as obscene bullshit qualifies as nasty, Dave. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list
you have to unsubscribe by clicking on the link on the bottom of the email. dee On 4 Oct 2010, at 14:01, kaykelly wrote: please remove me from this list. I live in the south I don't need any more fuel to stay warm. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShelp re cholesterol
I have read in many knowledgeable sources that 'high' cholesterol is irrelevant. We all need cholesterol all the time to repair everything in our bodies. The brain is largely cholesterol so to try and reduce it would be madness in my opinion. Also, we are all different and what might be deemed high by the medics, could indeed be perfectly normal for *that* person so to mess with it could potentially be disastrous! dee On 4 Oct 2010, at 18:12, needling around wrote: A friend in his 30s has been found to have high cholesterol. I did some research in the archives and sent along some info. I was wondering if anyone had any specific recommendations for this situation. He is not overweight. Thanks. PT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSPrill beads
About 6 months ago we had a discussion here or on the off topic list about Prill beads. I purchased some not knowing what, if anything to expect. When they arrived I washed them as the instructions indicated an put them into our water container which we fill with desalinized water. I can now report some very definite and observable results. I would normally have to drain and use acid on the inside of the container every month or two to remove all the scale that would form on the inside. Not only have I not had to do this, there is still absolutely no scale forming at all, not even a trace. I had been puzzled by this for a while, but the thread recently on the water structuring through via a vortex in a magnetic field I think might hold the key. Water undergoing shear in a magnetic field gets restructured. According to Brookes this results in among other things an increase in solubility. I also know that my son uses magnets on his house water which appear to stop all scaling in his pipes by the same mechanism. The only way I know that scaling in my water container could have been stopped is if the solubility of the water was increased so the scale does not form and even will dissolve. Thus I believe that one effect of Prill beads is a restructuring of the water, similar if not identical to that which the magnetic vortex produces. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list
This sounds very prejudiced and indeed, patronising, to me. I believe Dave has as much right to be here as anyone--his input is as valuable as anyone else's and to start 'calibrating' him because he does not share certain viewpoints, is, I think deplorable. Ours not to judge--to coin a phrase! dee On 4 Oct 2010, at 18:22, Marshall Dudley wrote: Posting to a forum is always a problem. As one progresses spiritually they find that at some point they realize that giving information to someone that does not want it is infringing on their free will. While this can be easily avoided on a one on one situation, for a forum it is impossible, for to maintain a level of knowledge no higher than the lowest calibrating member will not assist anyone. One has to shoot more for the average level of the list. For instance there are things I post on the off topic list which I will not post here because it would infringe on the belief system of some of those on this list. Unfortunately Dave calibrates much much lower than the average person on this list (25 vs 565), and it is very obvious that he is misplaced, this is not the forum for him. He needs to find a list that calibrates no more than 200 which is the neutral point to be comfortable and where his free will to believe what he wants is not being infringed on. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShelp re cholesterol
Hi PT, I've heard chromium picolinate helps. I once went in for some tests at the Dr and for my last meal before the cut off time for eating was greasy barbecued pork ribs [I know, I know]. I thought for sure my cholesterol would be sky high but the test showed it was perfect. I had been taking chromium picolinate for about a year so figured what they said about it must be true. As a side note I no longer eat greasy pork ribs and such...[shiver]. Sandy --- On Mon, 10/4/10, needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net Subject: CShelp re cholesterol To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, October 4, 2010, 12:12 PM A friend in his 30s has been found to have high cholesterol. I did some research in the archives and sent along some info. I was wondering if anyone had any specific recommendations for this situation. He is not overweight. Thanks. PT
Re: CSPrill beads
Hi There Marshall, thanks for your observances which concur with mine.On Jim's website he clearly says that the beads restructure the water - I love mine and have at least one glass per day, if I drink this glass late in the evening I cannot sleep at night as I am invigorated, so drink before 3.00 pm - it feels good !!! Warm regards Sandee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSQuebec protocol
Hi PT when normal search engins can't seem to come up with an answer--I use _www.dogpile.com_ (http://www.dogpile.com) I did a search there what you mentioned --{Quebec}--was mentioned-- Hope this helps, Lois _Quebec protocol for non-Hodgkin's - Dogpile Web Search_ (http://dogpile.com/dogpile/ws/results/Web/Quebec%20protocol%20for%20non-Hodgkin's/1/417/TopNavigation/R elevance/iq=true/zoom=off/_iceUrlFlag=7?_IceUrl=true) Does anyone know anything about the Quebec protocol for non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma? It was mentioned in the Strauss Heart Drops newsletter but it seems they do not keep a copy of their newsletters so I was not able to access it. Google turned up empty also. Thanks for any help you can give. PT
Re: CSPrill beads
I tried the prill water for about 2 months, drinking about a half gallon a day. Didn't notice any benefits. Alan On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Sandee George oha...@juno.com wrote: Hi There Marshall, thanks for your observances which concur with mine. On Jim's website he clearly says that the beads restructure the water - I love mine and have at least one glass per day, if I drink this glass late in the evening I cannot sleep at night as I am invigorated, so drink before 3.00 pm - it feels good !!! Warm regards Sandee -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
Re: CShelp re cholesterol
I have read that niacin helps lower cholesterol. It should be regular niacin, not no-flush and not niacinamide. Start low. In one day I jumped from a 100mg dose to 200mg, I turned BRIGHT red for almost an hour. Do some Googling before you try this. Alan On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Sandy hollis302...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi PT, I've heard chromium picolinate helps. I once went in for some tests at the Dr and for my last meal before the cut off time for eating was greasy barbecued pork ribs [I know, I know]. I thought for sure my cholesterol would be sky high but the test showed it was perfect. I had been taking chromium picolinate for about a year so figured what they said about it must be true. As a side note I no longer eat greasy pork ribs and such...[shiver]. Sandy --- On *Mon, 10/4/10, needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net* wrote: From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net Subject: CShelp re cholesterol To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, October 4, 2010, 12:12 PM A friend in his 30s has been found to have high cholesterol. I did some research in the archives and sent along some info. I was wondering if anyone had any specific recommendations for this situation. He is not overweight. Thanks. PT -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
Re: CShelp re cholesterol
I concur with that completely. Cholesterol being deposited in the veins is not due to high cholesterol but to inflammation of the veins. That is why research has found that anti-inflammation agents such as aspirin, and low level antibiotics reduce this problem. The correct answer is to remove the inflammation, not remove the stuff to try and reduce it. If you get rid of the inflammation and take some serrapeptase your veins will be as clean as a new born babe in a month. Marshall On 10/4/2010 2:09 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: I have read in many knowledgeable sources that 'high' cholesterol is irrelevant. We all need cholesterol all the time to repair everything in our bodies. The brain is largely cholesterol so to try and reduce it would be madness in my opinion. Also, we are all different and what might be deemed high by the medics, could indeed be perfectly normal for *that* person so to mess with it could potentially be disastrous! dee On 4 Oct 2010, at 18:12, needling around wrote: A friend in his 30s has been found to have high cholesterol. I did some research in the archives and sent along some info. I was wondering if anyone had any specific recommendations for this situation. He is not overweight. Thanks. PT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions:mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devourmailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSQuebec protocol
Thanks. I ran into the same problem. They were all allopathic and the Quebec protocol was an alternative medicine protocol. PT - Original Message - From: zzekel...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 3:01 PM Subject: Re: CSQuebec protocol Hi PT when normal search engins can't seem to come up with an answer--I use www.dogpile.com I did a search there what you mentioned --{Quebec}--was mentioned-- Hope this helps, Lois Quebec protocol for non-Hodgkin's - Dogpile Web Search Does anyone know anything about the Quebec protocol for non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma? It was mentioned in the Strauss Heart Drops newsletter but it seems they do not keep a copy of their newsletters so I was not able to access it. Google turned up empty also. Thanks for any help you can give. PT
Re: CSPrill beads
I can now report some very definite and observable results. I would normally have to drain and use acid on the inside of the container every month or two to remove all the scale that would form on the inside. Not only have I not had to do this, there is still absolutely no scale forming at all, not even a trace. Hi Marshall, What is the scale you mention ??? Is it lime ??? Our water has a heavy lime content it does cause trouble at times... Lois
Re: CShelp re cholesterol / serrapeptase
In a message dated 10/4/2010 3:15:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mdud...@king-cart.com writes: If you get rid of the inflammation and take some serrapeptase your veins will be as clean as a new born babe in a month. Marshall How much serrapeptase should one take ??? Lois
Re: CShelp re cholesterol
Lecithin works well on cholesterol. A tablespoon or two daily of granulated has a good history. I get mine here... http://www.puritan.com/lecithin-064/lecithin-granules-001060 Chuck If all the cars on the Earth were lined up bumper to bumper, some idiot would try to pass them. On 10/4/2010 1:12:49 PM, needling around (ptf2...@bellsouth.net) wrote: A friend in his 30s has been found to have high cholesterol. I did some research in the archives and sent along some info. I was wondering if anyone had any specific recommendations for this situation. He is not overweight. Thanks. PT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSremove from list
I notice that if you click the Unsubscribe link below you get a message generated with subscribe in the Subject line. Shouldn't the subject be unsubscribe? Is this what is causing people trouble when they try to unsubscribe? - Steve N On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Robert L. Booth zebulan5...@yahoo.com mailto:zebulan5...@yahoo.com wrote: Please take me off this list. Thank you. Robert Booth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShelp re cholesterol
I also agree. Also, I have read that only about half of heart attack victims have high cholesterol. On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.comwrote: I concur with that completely. Cholesterol being deposited in the veins is not due to high cholesterol but to inflammation of the veins. That is why research has found that anti-inflammation agents such as aspirin, and low level antibiotics reduce this problem. The correct answer is to remove the inflammation, not remove the stuff to try and reduce it. If you get rid of the inflammation and take some serrapeptase your veins will be as clean as a new born babe in a month. Marshall On 10/4/2010 2:09 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: I have read in many knowledgeable sources that 'high' cholesterol is irrelevant. We all need cholesterol all the time to repair everything in our bodies. The brain is largely cholesterol so to try and reduce it would be madness in my opinion. Also, we are all different and what might be deemed high by the medics, could indeed be perfectly normal for *that* person so to mess with it could potentially be disastrous! dee On 4 Oct 2010, at 18:12, needling around wrote: A friend in his 30s has been found to have high cholesterol. I did some research in the archives and sent along some info. I was wondering if anyone had any specific recommendations for this situation. He is not overweight. Thanks. PT -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list
You are right, Dorothy, if this were a public forum owned by the public. But it is open to the public at the will of a private individual. The terms, prejudice and patronize are relevant only in truly public areas that are publicly owned. You have every right to host your own private group and invite the public to join. But you make the rules, and constitutional rights do not apply. Leo - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 12:23 PM Subject: Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list This sounds very prejudiced and indeed, patronising, to me. I believe Dave has as much right to be here as anyone--his input is as valuable as anyone else's and to start 'calibrating' him because he does not share certain viewpoints, is, I think deplorable. Ours not to judge--to coin a phrase! dee On 4 Oct 2010, at 18:22, Marshall Dudley wrote: Posting to a forum is always a problem. As one progresses spiritually they find that at some point they realize that giving information to someone that does not want it is infringing on their free will. While this can be easily avoided on a one on one situation, for a forum it is impossible, for to maintain a level of knowledge no higher than the lowest calibrating member will not assist anyone. One has to shoot more for the average level of the list. For instance there are things I post on the off topic list which I will not post here because it would infringe on the belief system of some of those on this list. Unfortunately Dave calibrates much much lower than the average person on this list (25 vs 565), and it is very obvious that he is misplaced, this is not the forum for him. He needs to find a list that calibrates no more than 200 which is the neutral point to be comfortable and where his free will to believe what he wants is not being infringed on. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list
And if you're a behaviorist you could invoke B. F. Skinner... Dan On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: You are perfectly welcome to substitute whatever you want for God. Creator, Almighty, all that is, universe, angels, the great spirit, the solar system's nexus or whatever, it does not matter. It is the thought that counts and which carries the energy to heal. Marshall On 10/3/2010 12:52 AM, Neville Munn wrote: Quote: Use the power of thought and hands of *God *and place what ever you want to on his incision if it is for his highest good. I infuse *God's* Divine Love into this situation end quote. Well if that don't smack of religion I dunno what does slapping forehead...? If he meant Ra the sun god, the sacred cow of India, or Inca, Mayan or Aztec human sacrifice, then he should have made that clear and it probly wouldn't have been so offensive. Some reserve the right to NOT subscribe to such ideals, and that right should be RESPECTED! N. Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 20:50:10 -0700 Subject: Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list From: davedar...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Not any particular religion but religion never the less. Get real! Dave On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Sandy hollis302...@yahoo.com mailto:hollis302...@yahoo.com wrote: No doubt I'll regret this but just so you know, Dave what Robert said was in no way religious...it was spiritual. Had he invoked the name of a church or some church doctrine oe was trying to force his views on you then you could consider that religious. You might want to learn the difference. Besides, from what I can tell Robert was not addressing his comment to you. Doesn't Mike also have some sort of rule about being civil? Sandy --- On Sat, 10/2/10, Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com mailto:davedar...@gmail.com wrote: Now maybe you understand why Mike says to keep religion off the list. By the way take me off this list doesn't unsubscribe you. Dave -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSPrill beads
Marshall, I'm interested in knowing just how your son uses magnets on his house water. How and where does he place the magnets (and of what size)? Lisa *** {snip} Water undergoing shear in a magnetic field gets restructured. According to Brookes this results in among other things an increase in solubility. I also know that my son uses magnets on his house water which appear to stop all scaling in his pipes by the same mechanism. {snip} -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CShelp re cholesterol
I'm taking serrapeptase...but at the dosage on the bottle (I've read that others increase it substanstially). Marshall, can you give an approximate dosage amount in which this would happen in about a month? Lisa -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 3:15 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CShelp re cholesterol I concur with that completely. Cholesterol being deposited in the veins is not due to high cholesterol but to inflammation of the veins. That is why research has found that anti-inflammation agents such as aspirin, and low level antibiotics reduce this problem. The correct answer is to remove the inflammation, not remove the stuff to try and reduce it. If you get rid of the inflammation and take some serrapeptase your veins will be as clean as a new born babe in a month. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShelp re cholesterol / serrapeptase
On 10/4/2010 3:29 PM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 10/4/2010 3:15:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mdud...@king-cart.com writes: If you get rid of the inflammation and take some serrapeptase your veins will be as clean as a new born babe in a month. Marshall *How much serrapeptase should one take ??? Lois* I would take no more than 200,000 a day until they are clean, to give the body time to strengthen the vessels as the plaque is removed, and to also to prevent large chunks from breaking off. Once the veins are clear, probably a month unless you have some virtually totally blocked veins, drop it to maybe 40,000 every day or probably every few days to keep them clean. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSremove from list
There is also a character missing after the Subject, I think a colon. As a result the subject is totally blank in the email. Marshall On 10/4/2010 3:38 PM, Norton, Steve wrote: I notice that if you click the Unsubscribe link below you get a message generated with subscribe in the Subject line. Shouldn't the subject be unsubscribe? Is this what is causing people trouble when they try to unsubscribe? - Steve N On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Robert L. Booth zebulan5...@yahoo.commailto:zebulan5...@yahoo.com wrote: Please take me off this list. Thank you. Robert Booth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions:mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devourmailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShelp re cholesterol
LOL. Statistically exactly half the population would have higher then average and half would have lower than average cholesterol, so if the heart attack statistics are the same that means that cholesterol has little if any effect. Marshall On 10/4/2010 3:42 PM, Alan Jones wrote: I also agree. Also, I have read that only about half of heart attack victims have high cholesterol. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS: Re Cholesterol
Some 40+ years ago I was diagnosed as having high cholesterol.At this time I was obese hovering around 185/190 lbs. No treatment action was taken all these years re same. It took me almost 30 years to reach my weight level now of 150 lbs.,ideal. Last year I had occasion to have a full blood work-up and according to the results,my Cholesterol levels were right on. And,for approx. 12 years I have been taking Lecithin granules as a daily supplement . . Harold .
Re: CSPrill beads
Yes it was lime scale, specifically calcium carbonate. Marshall On 10/4/2010 3:18 PM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote: I can now report some very definite and observable results. I would normally have to drain and use acid on the inside of the container every month or two to remove all the scale that would form on the inside. Not only have I not had to do this, there is still absolutely no scale forming at all, not even a trace. *Hi Marshall, What is the scale you mention ??? Is it lime ??? Our water has a heavy lime content it does cause trouble at times... Lois* -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShelp re cholesterol
Hi There Marshall, I know we have had this question asked before, however I just went to solaray website and found the following and would like your comment on same or if you have a better suggestion - thanks Regards Sandee Quantity 4 Item ID 12719 Solaray - Serrapeptase - 90ct - 20,000 Units @ 10.50 each $42.00 Subtotal $42.00 Shipping/Handling: $6.00 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPrill beads
I will try to find out which units he got. There are a quite a few companies offering them. He has one between his well and tank, another between his tank and house and another between his tank and ground water heat pump. I think he has a 4th going into his hot water heater. Marshall On 10/4/2010 4:00 PM, Lisa wrote: Marshall, I'm interested in knowing just how your son uses magnets on his house water. How and where does he place the magnets (and of what size)? Lisa *** {snip} Water undergoing shear in a magnetic field gets restructured. According to Brookes this results in among other things an increase in solubility. I also know that my son uses magnets on his house water which appear to stop all scaling in his pipes by the same mechanism. {snip} -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions:mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devourmailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShelp re cholesterol
Any brand would probably prove satisfactory, but I think you can get better price per unit if you get it in 40,000 or 50,000 units. I do konw that the Drs Best brand has proven effective for a number of people. Marshall On 10/4/2010 4:35 PM, Sandee George wrote: Hi There Marshall, I know we have had this question asked before, however I just went to solaray website and found the following and would like your comment on same or if you have a better suggestion - thanks Regards Sandee Quantity 4 Item ID 12719 Solaray - Serrapeptase - 90ct - 20,000 Units @ 10.50 each $42.00 Subtotal $42.00 Shipping/Handling: $6.00 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re[2]: CSPromising protocol.....Toe Fungus
Bob, Many thanks for that suggestion, I will definitely look into it. Turpentine is a new one to me though I see it has been used for various things for hundreds of years. Sheila ... Sunday, October 3, 2010, 10:38:01 PM, you wrote: Sheila, I'm having great success using pure gum terpentine on an infected toenail. I swab it on twice daily and it seems to be working. All of the pain I had with this has disappeared in less than a week. My nail is growing out pink near the nail bed. Bob - Original Message - From: S Campbell je...@jscampbell.co.uk To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 11:15 AM Subject: Re: CSPromising protocol.Toe Fungus Brooks Bradley: Re: your post of August 13, 2010, on toenail fungus treatment using saturated bicarbonate of soda plus DMSO plus a laser pointer. Hello Brooks, this sounds very interesting and my husband would like to try it as he has tried many other methods with little success. Could you please give us some more background on this unusual protocol? Specifically, why were you using saturated bicarbonate of soda, and what is the purpose of the laser pointer light? Many thanks, Sheila ... Friday, August 13, 2010, 9:30:41 PM, you wrote: Recently, we concluded a brief.but promising DIY protocol designed to address toenail fungi colonies. This simple methodology yielded surprisingly effective abatement/control of expressing fungal insults involving the toenailsmost especially the great toe. The procedure was as follows: (1) a brief, preliminary foot-soak in warm tap-water (5 minutes average); (2) Using a solution of saturated bicarbonate of soda (70% by volume), blended with 30% by volume (Full Strength DMSO)...liberally applied via eye dropper or Q-Tip type applicator [thoroughly soaked)]insuring the crease between the nail wall and the adjoining tissue is filled with liquid, apply (3) the beam of a conventional laser pointer (or about a 3500 mw LED bulb)held very close (within about 1/8th inch of tissue/nail surface).for a total exposure time of 10 minutes [approximately] per toenail. Actually this works out to be about 2.5 minutes per side of the nail, proper. No harm was caused by the occasional, accidental touching of the toenail/tissue surfaces. Although our arrangement was somewhat more elaborate (using 4 units in a single assembly) and allowed us to reduce the total time to less than 3 minutes per toenailtime is, probably, less expensive for mostthan assembling the more extensive array. One interesting phenomenon was that from among a family of presenting fungal agents (4 varieties, in total) NONE proved resistant to the control effects of the sodium bicarbonate. Interestingly, the sodium bicarbonate X DMSO , alone, yielded quite acceptable control---albeit over a rather extended period of time (10 to 12 days).adding the laser or LED ancillary function, dramatically accelerated the favorable response time (5 to 7 days). This protocol was employed 3 times daily for the first 3 days and twice daily thereafter. In the worst cases (where the entire under-surface of the nail was presenting an insult) the time required for favorable resolution was around 30 days. This was not the only protocol that proved effectivebut was by far the most COST-EFFECTIVE in both time and expense. This protocol proved to be simple, effective and economical.ideal for the DIY experimenter. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- --
Re: CSPrill beads
I place magnets around my shower hose, and it feels different. Leo - Original Message - From: Lisa To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 2:00 PM Subject: RE: CSPrill beads Marshall, I'm interested in knowing just how your son uses magnets on his house water. How and where does he place the magnets (and of what size)? Lisa *** {snip} Water undergoing shear in a magnetic field gets restructured. According to Brookes this results in among other things an increase in solubility. I also know that my son uses magnets on his house water which appear to stop all scaling in his pipes by the same mechanism. {snip} -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPromising protocol.....Toe Fungus
Dr. David Williams is talking up tree resin, presumably pine resin, as a topical for this sort of thing. The resin contains both turpentine and rosin. It is sticky, so the formulation mixes it with olive oil and vaseline. He says it is good for nail fungus and cuts/scrapes etc. Dan On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net wrote: Sheila, I'm having great success using pure gum terpentine on an infected toenail. I swab it on twice daily and it seems to be working. All of the pain I had with this has disappeared in less than a week. My nail is growing out pink near the nail bed. Bob - Original Message - From: S Campbell je...@jscampbell.co.uk To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 11:15 AM Subject: Re: CSPromising protocol.Toe Fungus Brooks Bradley: Re: your post of August 13, 2010, on toenail fungus treatment using saturated bicarbonate of soda plus DMSO plus a laser pointer. Hello Brooks, this sounds very interesting and my husband would like to try it as he has tried many other methods with little success. Could you please give us some more background on this unusual protocol? Specifically, why were you using saturated bicarbonate of soda, and what is the purpose of the laser pointer light? Many thanks, Sheila ... Friday, August 13, 2010, 9:30:41 PM, you wrote: Recently, we concluded a brief.but promising DIY protocol designed to address toenail fungi colonies. This simple methodology yielded surprisingly effective abatement/control of expressing fungal insults involving the toenailsmost especially the great toe. The procedure was as follows: (1) a brief, preliminary foot-soak in warm tap-water (5 minutes average); (2) Using a solution of saturated bicarbonate of soda (70% by volume), blended with 30% by volume (Full Strength DMSO)...liberally applied via eye dropper or Q-Tip type applicator [thoroughly soaked)]insuring the crease between the nail wall and the adjoining tissue is filled with liquid, apply (3) the beam of a conventional laser pointer (or about a 3500 mw LED bulb)held very close (within about 1/8th inch of tissue/nail surface).for a total exposure time of 10 minutes [approximately] per toenail. Actually this works out to be about 2.5 minutes per side of the nail, proper. No harm was caused by the occasional, accidental touching of the toenail/tissue surfaces. Although our arrangement was somewhat more elaborate (using 4 units in a single assembly) and allowed us to reduce the total time to less than 3 minutes per toenailtime is, probably, less expensive for mostthan assembling the more extensive array. One interesting phenomenon was that from among a family of presenting fungal agents (4 varieties, in total) NONE proved resistant to the control effects of the sodium bicarbonate. Interestingly, the sodium bicarbonate X DMSO , alone, yielded quite acceptable control---albeit over a rather extended period of time (10 to 12 days).adding the laser or LED ancillary function, dramatically accelerated the favorable response time (5 to 7 days). This protocol was employed 3 times daily for the first 3 days and twice daily thereafter. In the worst cases (where the entire under-surface of the nail was presenting an insult) the time required for favorable resolution was around 30 days. This was not the only protocol that proved effectivebut was by far the most COST-EFFECTIVE in both time and expense. This protocol proved to be simple, effective and economical.ideal for the DIY experimenter. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com --
RE: CShelp re cholesterol
Be careful of taking the serrapeptase and don't try to push it. Follow the dosage no the bottle. Taking too much too fast can 'chunk' off bits of plaque which can travel and cause strokes. Happened to 2 people on 2 different lists I'm on, trying to get rid of their plaque too fast. It's safe is used as directed. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I'm taking serrapeptase...but at the dosage on the bottle (I've read that others increase it substanstially). Marshall, can you give an approximate dosage amount in which this would happen in about a month?
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #814
Someone has posted in another group that a friend of his took too much serrapeptase that instead of dissolving the plaques, it broke off and caused a stroke. He advised not to go over 40,000. Is this correct, Marshall? How does one know if the veins are inflamed? Melly --- On Mon, 10/4/10, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote: From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #814 To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Date: Monday, October 4, 2010, 4:22 PM
Re: CShelp re cholesterol
Chelation therapy using EDTA IV's lowered my cholesterol from 285 to 150 back in 1996. I began to fear that my cholesterol was getting too low. My chelation Mexican DR Medina laughed and said stop at the local Casino in Yuma Friday night and eat their prime rib dinner, that will bring it back up and we can start the chelation treatment again. A never ending cycle. Brickey
Re: CShelp re cholesterol
Exactly. On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.comwrote: LOL. Statistically exactly half the population would have higher then average and half would have lower than average cholesterol, so if the heart attack statistics are the same that means that cholesterol has little if any effect. Marshall On 10/4/2010 3:42 PM, Alan Jones wrote: I also agree. Also, I have read that only about half of heart attack victims have high cholesterol. -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
Re: CShelp re cholesterol Question
Is there any high level that one should be concerned about? Is there anyother syptom that goes along with high cholesterol one should watch for? thanks in advance, Debbie From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, October 4, 2010 2:09:31 PM Subject: Re: CShelp re cholesterol I have read in many knowledgeable sources that 'high' cholesterol is irrelevant. We all need cholesterol all the time to repair everything in our bodies. The brain is largely cholesterol so to try and reduce it would be madness in my opinion. Also, we are all different and what might be deemed high by the medics, could indeed be perfectly normal for *that* person so to mess with it could potentially be disastrous! dee On 4 Oct 2010, at 18:12, needling around wrote: A friend in his 30s has been found to have high cholesterol. I did some research in the archives and sent along some info. I was wondering if anyone had any specific recommendations for this situation. He is not overweight. Thanks. PT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShelp re cholesterol
Marcshall, If takeing low level anti-biotic's would lower inflamation wouldn't CS do the same job maybe? thanks Deb From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, October 4, 2010 3:15:04 PM Subject: Re: CShelp re cholesterol I concur with that completely. Cholesterol being deposited in the veins is not due to high cholesterol but to inflammation of the veins. That is why research has found that anti-inflammation agents such as aspirin, and low level antibiotics reduce this problem. The correct answer is to remove the inflammation, not remove the stuff to try and reduce it. If you get rid of the inflammation and take some serrapeptase your veins will be as clean as a new born babe in a month. Marshall
Re: CShelp re cholesterol
Too much got me. Had a stroke. Trem - Original Message - From: Renee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 4:00 PM Subject: RE: CShelp re cholesterol Be careful of taking the serrapeptase and don't try to push it. Follow the dosage no the bottle. Taking too much too fast can 'chunk' off bits of plaque which can travel and cause strokes. Happened to 2 people on 2 different lists I'm on, trying to get rid of their plaque too fast. It's safe is used as directed. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I'm taking serrapeptase...but at the dosage on the bottle (I've read that others increase it substanstially). Marshall, can you give an approximate dosage amount in which this would happen in about a month? -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3176 - Release Date: 10/03/10 23:35:00
Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C from the VitaMix blender
Jon, I use either my Vitamix or a stick blender to make my liposomal vit C. I can only say that it stays completely combined, and nothing drops out. And I can take higher doses with no stomach upset and no diarrhea, which I invariably got from low doses of plain vit C. I don't know if I get all the benefits of the Liposomal C made in an ultrasonic cleaner, but the benefits I do get are sufficient for my purposes. sol Jon wrote: I see from the list archives that a Lot of list members have VitaMix blenders. Is there any new info on the use of the VitaMix to make Liposomal Vitamin C? In particular, do we know what % of the mix achieves encapsulation? The last news I saw was that the ultrasonic cleaner achieves 70% encapsulation and a regular household blender achieves about 20% encapsulation. Also, do we know how the liposome particle size compares between the standard ultrasonic-cleaner method vs the VitaMix? Thanks! Jon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOn a personal note............
Craving for and high consumption of sodium can be an indicator of various imbalances. I would not be too quick to reduce sodium intake without investigating adrenal function and also getting the best most complete mineral balance analysis you can. Some people need a high sodium intake, though that goes completely against current conventional medical opinion. sol On 10/1/2010 11:09 PM, Costumes wrote: ... Now if we could just get my Dad to stop eating salt and sodium The Dr's told him he HAD to make improvements in his diet ... but he has no intention of doing it He could care less about trying to do HIS PART to protect his health. If your husband shares your desire for good health, then that will certainly be a huge blessing on his behalf !!! jan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CScholesterol
Hi, Thanks to everyone who wrote in response to my query about cholesterol. I have passed on the information with instructions to research those areas. PT
Re: Re[2]: CSPromising protocol.....Toe Fungus
Sheila, If you use turpentine, make sure it is pure gum terpentine, not synthetic or some other kind. Bob - Original Message - From: S Campbell je...@jscampbell.co.uk To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 3:00 PM Subject: Re[2]: CSPromising protocol.Toe Fungus Bob, Many thanks for that suggestion, I will definitely look into it. Turpentine is a new one to me though I see it has been used for various things for hundreds of years. Sheila ... Sunday, October 3, 2010, 10:38:01 PM, you wrote: Sheila, I'm having great success using pure gum terpentine on an infected toenail. I swab it on twice daily and it seems to be working. All of the pain I had with this has disappeared in less than a week. My nail is growing out pink near the nail bed. Bob - Original Message - From: S Campbell je...@jscampbell.co.uk To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 11:15 AM Subject: Re: CSPromising protocol.Toe Fungus Brooks Bradley: Re: your post of August 13, 2010, on toenail fungus treatment using saturated bicarbonate of soda plus DMSO plus a laser pointer. Hello Brooks, this sounds very interesting and my husband would like to try it as he has tried many other methods with little success. Could you please give us some more background on this unusual protocol? Specifically, why were you using saturated bicarbonate of soda, and what is the purpose of the laser pointer light? Many thanks, Sheila ... Friday, August 13, 2010, 9:30:41 PM, you wrote: Recently, we concluded a brief.but promising DIY protocol designed to address toenail fungi colonies. This simple methodology yielded surprisingly effective abatement/control of expressing fungal insults involving the toenailsmost especially the great toe. The procedure was as follows: (1) a brief, preliminary foot-soak in warm tap-water (5 minutes average); (2) Using a solution of saturated bicarbonate of soda (70% by volume), blended with 30% by volume (Full Strength DMSO)...liberally applied via eye dropper or Q-Tip type applicator [thoroughly soaked)]insuring the crease between the nail wall and the adjoining tissue is filled with liquid, apply (3) the beam of a conventional laser pointer (or about a 3500 mw LED bulb)held very close (within about 1/8th inch of tissue/nail surface).for a total exposure time of 10 minutes [approximately] per toenail. Actually this works out to be about 2.5 minutes per side of the nail, proper. No harm was caused by the occasional, accidental touching of the toenail/tissue surfaces. Although our arrangement was somewhat more elaborate (using 4 units in a single assembly) and allowed us to reduce the total time to less than 3 minutes per toenailtime is, probably, less expensive for mostthan assembling the more extensive array. One interesting phenomenon was that from among a family of presenting fungal agents (4 varieties, in total) NONE proved resistant to the control effects of the sodium bicarbonate. Interestingly, the sodium bicarbonate X DMSO , alone, yielded quite acceptable control---albeit over a rather extended period of time (10 to 12 days).adding the laser or LED ancillary function, dramatically accelerated the favorable response time (5 to 7 days). This protocol was employed 3 times daily for the first 3 days and twice daily thereafter. In the worst cases (where the entire under-surface of the nail was presenting an insult) the time required for favorable resolution was around 30 days. This was not the only protocol that proved effectivebut was by far the most COST-EFFECTIVE in both time and expense. This protocol proved to be simple, effective and economical.ideal for the DIY experimenter. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- --
Re: CShelp re cholesterol / serrapeptase
I would like to mention that I have just begun taking serrapeptase (about 160,000 units per day - Doctor's Best) in hopes that it will reduce or cure my sinus problems. I have always had constant post-nasal drip, and as I get older it is increasing. This is especially bad for me as a singer, as the mucus frequently tangles around my vocal cords. My wife told a friend to take serrapeptase for her arthritis (don't know why, haven't heard that it does anything for arthritis). After a year, the friend told her that it had not helped her arthritis, but had cleared up her sinus problems. Here's hoping! Del - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 4:08 PM Subject: Re: CShelp re cholesterol / serrapeptase On 10/4/2010 3:29 PM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 10/4/2010 3:15:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mdud...@king-cart.com writes: If you get rid of the inflammation and take some serrapeptase your veins will be as clean as a new born babe in a month. Marshall *How much serrapeptase should one take ??? Lois* I would take no more than 200,000 a day until they are clean, to give the body time to strengthen the vessels as the plaque is removed, and to also to prevent large chunks from breaking off. Once the veins are clear, probably a month unless you have some virtually totally blocked veins, drop it to maybe 40,000 every day or probably every few days to keep them clean. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CS
Since this is my first post, I'll introduce myself by saying I have my own generator, an SG6 SilverGen. I have some questions regarding getting a stronger ppm, but for now, I have another issue which came up tonight: I have a friend who is trying to set me straight about using colloidal silver. Here is her email to me: Barb, Had some time to look up this substance on a couple of trusted websites for herbals and other things. This is one we use in the health region. I had some concerns as the consequences in using this substance are severe. Just look under the herbs section. Take care Judy database Natural standard http://www.naturalstandard.com/naturalstandard/index.asp I can't access the site without a subscription. Has anyone heard of it? It bothers me that she is only looking at sites her hospital uses for research. When I told her I use colloidal for everything from a sore throat, eye infections, cuts, use it on my animals, she told me the placebo effect of these alternative therapies is a remarkable thing. So I need some ammunition! Since she is very technical, a good published study would be great! Thanks. Barbara
Re: CShelp re cholesterol
Red Yeast Rice...I've seen it work well in many, many people and I've seen doctors blown away by it's results. It is a statin like the prescription drugs out there, but is all natural and much safer. Kriss On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Sandy hollis302...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi PT, I've heard chromium picolinate helps. I once went in for some tests at the Dr and for my last meal before the cut off time for eating was greasy barbecued pork ribs [I know, I know]. I thought for sure my cholesterol would be sky high but the test showed it was perfect. I had been taking chromium picolinate for about a year so figured what they said about it must be true. As a side note I no longer eat greasy pork ribs and such...[shiver]. Sandy --- On *Mon, 10/4/10, needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net* wrote: From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net Subject: CShelp re cholesterol To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, October 4, 2010, 12:12 PM A friend in his 30s has been found to have high cholesterol. I did some research in the archives and sent along some info. I was wondering if anyone had any specific recommendations for this situation. He is not overweight. Thanks. PT
Re: CShelp re cholesterol
Thank you but I have read it has the same long term side effects as the statin drugs, they just take a little longer to kick in so I don't want to recommend it. After all a statin is a statin natural or synthetic. PT - Original Message - From: Krisstyna Holmquist To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 11:03 PM Subject: Re: CShelp re cholesterol Red Yeast Rice...I've seen it work well in many, many people and I've seen doctors blown away by it's results. It is a statin like the prescription drugs out there, but is all natural and much safer. Kriss On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Sandy hollis302...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi PT, I've heard chromium picolinate helps. I once went in for some tests at the Dr and for my last meal before the cut off time for eating was greasy barbecued pork ribs [I know, I know]. I thought for sure my cholesterol would be sky high but the test showed it was perfect. I had been taking chromium picolinate for about a year so figured what they said about it must be true. As a side note I no longer eat greasy pork ribs and such...[shiver]. Sandy --- On Mon, 10/4/10, needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net Subject: CShelp re cholesterol To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, October 4, 2010, 12:12 PM A friend in his 30s has been found to have high cholesterol. I did some research in the archives and sent along some info. I was wondering if anyone had any specific recommendations for this situation. He is not overweight. Thanks. PT
RE: CShelp re cholesterol
I'd be interested also. To my knowledge silver 'particles' are not uniformally spherical in shape or size, but rather are 'random' shapes and sizes. I postulated some time ago if it were possible for these 'random' shapes to form an 'abrasive' action on any foreign matter which may be present within the circulatory system. Of course one could imagine that that same abrasive action may also erode that same circulatory system...but would it? Who knows? Now that cholesterol is being put forward as being an inflamation I can see that praps I may have been barking up the wrong tree...or was I? Either way, it seems that EIS/CS may in fact be beneficial in assisting the blood pathways in remaining fairly clear regardless of it's action...sounds good to me. Any thoughts on the feasability of this too? Or is my postulation absurd and/or ridiculous, and only makes sense to me? N. Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 16:54:19 -0700 From: devorah...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: CShelp re cholesterol To: silver-list@eskimo.com Marcshall, If takeing low level anti-biotic's would lower inflamation wouldn't CS do the same job maybe? thanks Deb From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, October 4, 2010 3:15:04 PM Subject: Re: CShelp re cholesterol I concur with that completely. Cholesterol being deposited in the veins is not due to high cholesterol but to inflammation of the veins. That is why research has found that anti-inflammation agents such as aspirin, and low level antibiotics reduce this problem. The correct answer is to remove the inflammation, not remove the stuff to try and reduce it. If you get rid of the inflammation and take some serrapeptase your veins will be as clean as a new born babe in a month. Marshall
Re: CSQuebec protocol
I don't know about the Quebec protocol but which non Hodgkin's Lymphoma are you dealing with? Teri -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSQuebec protocol
Not sure but the Quebec protocol was written about. PT - Original Message - From: Teri t...@welshspringers.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 11:36 PM Subject: Re: CSQuebec protocol I don't know about the Quebec protocol but which non Hodgkin's Lymphoma are you dealing with? Teri -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOn a personal note............
... Now if we could just get my Dad to stop eating salt and sodium ... Replace his table salt with sea salt. (without him knowing) That way he'll get some minerals too . Smitty
CSSalt
In Wild Swans the author described how the Japanese killed the Chinese by removing their salt supply - salt is essential to life - and diabetics are often salt addicts as the pancreas needs salt. Jane http://www.eamega.com/HighFieldHealth ~The Highest Field of Energy Healing you now!~ Craving for and high consumption of sodium can be an indicator of various imbalances. I would not be too quick to reduce sodium intake without investigating adrenal function and also getting the best most complete mineral balance analysis you can. Some people need a high sodium intake, though that goes completely against current conventional medical opinion. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com