Re: CSThank you...

2011-05-12 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
Mike, 

Congratulations on the good news. 

Dr. Dean Ornish has been known for many years to have reversed heart disease. 

http://www.amazon.com/Ornishs-Program-Reversing-Heart-Disease/dp/0804110387

So far as I can tell, these claims are scientifically validated.   

That may be a good place to start studying. 






On 2011/05/12, at 8:54, M. G. Devour wrote:

 Hi everyone,
 
 Thank you to all for your prayers and good wishes for my brother, et. 
 al. 
 
 He came through the procedure well. The doctor was able to place a 
 stent in the biggest of the three occluded grafts, which, combined with 
 the other successful graft, has restored more than 50% circulation to 
 the heart. He will go back for additional stents to be inserted in one 
 or both the remaining grafts after he's had a month for his kidneys to 
 recover from the iodine (dye) they inject to visualize the arteries, 
 and to otherwise recover his strength and heal.
 
 He's home now and bouncing back much more quickly than he did from the 
 initial bypass surgery. I've been preparing his meals and making sure 
 he gets his various meds, though at the rate he's improving I expect 
 him to take over much of this relatively soon.
 
 He saw his surgeon today and got good marks for the healing of his 
 incisions. They are giving him much less pain and discomfort, 
 thankfully.
 
 Now, how can he actually clean out his arteries and prevent a 
 recurrence of this nonsense? He's been using the Pauling protocol for 
 several years, and though it maybe slowed things down, it certainly 
 didn't fix it all.
 
 Again, thank you everyone. That procedure had to go well or things 
 could have gone downhill rapidly. It was comforting to know you were 
 with us.
 
 Peace,
 
 Mike D.
 
 
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Re: CSThank you...

2011-05-12 Thread Smitty
  Popular belief is cayenne pepper supposedly keeps arteries clear and
 maintains good circulation.

 How much, in how much water, is open to researching for individuals
 determination?



Dr. Christopher has some info on cayenne for high blood pressure =
http://www.zhealthinfo.com/doctor.htm

Also, Serrapeptase is good for scrubbing veins  arteries.
Google for a supplier.

Smitty


Re: CSThank you...

2011-05-12 Thread PTF
This is wonderful news, Mike.  May he continue to improve and astound his 
doctors!


On another list I belong to there was a discussion of about using lecithin 
to clean out arteries with the caveat that for someone with heart disease 
they *must* first strengthen their blood vessel walls.  The theory is that 
the cholesterol occlusions are patches the body lays down to strengthen a 
blood vessel that is weak. If the patch is removed the concern is the blood 
vessel could rupture.


I hope you are enjoying this time with your brother.
PT


- Original Message - 
From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:49 AM
Subject: CSThank you...



Hi everyone,

Thank you to all for your prayers and good wishes for my brother, et.
al.

He came through the procedure well. The doctor was able to place a
stent in the biggest of the three occluded grafts, which, combined with
the other successful graft, has restored more than 50% circulation to
the heart. He will go back for additional stents to be inserted in one
or both the remaining grafts after he's had a month for his kidneys to
recover from the iodine (dye) they inject to visualize the arteries,
and to otherwise recover his strength and heal.

He's home now and bouncing back much more quickly than he did from the
initial bypass surgery. I've been preparing his meals and making sure
he gets his various meds, though at the rate he's improving I expect
him to take over much of this relatively soon.

He saw his surgeon today and got good marks for the healing of his
incisions. They are giving him much less pain and discomfort,
thankfully.

Now, how can he actually clean out his arteries and prevent a
recurrence of this nonsense? He's been using the Pauling protocol for
several years, and though it maybe slowed things down, it certainly
didn't fix it all.

Again, thank you everyone. That procedure had to go well or things
could have gone downhill rapidly. It was comforting to know you were
with us.

Peace,

Mike D.


[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
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Re: CSThank you...

2011-05-12 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I am so very pleased for you and your brother Marshall.  kind regards, dee


On 12 May 2011, at 00:54, M. G. Devour wrote:

 Hi everyone,
 
 Thank you to all for your prayers and good wishes for my brother, et. 
 al. 
 
 He came through the procedure well. The doctor was able to place a 
 stent in the biggest of the three occluded grafts, which, combined with 
 the other successful graft, has restored more than 50% circulation to 
 the heart. He will go back for additional stents to be inserted in one 
 or both the remaining grafts after he's had a month for his kidneys to 
 recover from the iodine (dye) they inject to visualize the arteries, 
 and to otherwise recover his strength and heal.
 
 He's home now and bouncing back much more quickly than he did from the 
 initial bypass surgery. I've been preparing his meals and making sure 
 he gets his various meds, though at the rate he's improving I expect 
 him to take over much of this relatively soon.
 
 He saw his surgeon today and got good marks for the healing of his 
 incisions. They are giving him much less pain and discomfort, 
 thankfully.
 
 Now, how can he actually clean out his arteries and prevent a 
 recurrence of this nonsense? He's been using the Pauling protocol for 
 several years, and though it maybe slowed things down, it certainly 
 didn't fix it all.
 
 Again, thank you everyone. That procedure had to go well or things 
 could have gone downhill rapidly. It was comforting to know you were 
 with us.
 
 Peace,
 
 Mike D.
 
 
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 [mdev...@eskimo.com]
 [Speaking only for myself...   ]
 
 
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RE: CSThank you...

2011-05-12 Thread Lisa
What's used to strengthen the arteries?

 

  _  

From: Smitty [mailto:papad...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 3:46 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSThank you...

 

 

Popular belief is cayenne pepper supposedly keeps arteries clear and
maintains good circulation.
 
How much, in how much water, is open to researching for individuals
determination?

 

 

Dr. Christopher has some info on cayenne for high blood pressure =

http://www.zhealthinfo.com/doctor.htm

 

Also, Serrapeptase is good for scrubbing veins  arteries.

Google for a supplier.

 

Smitty 



RE: CSThank you...

2011-05-12 Thread Lisa
I think a very strong tincture can be made too (as opposed to using the
powder).

 

Lisa

 

  _  

From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 1:38 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSThank you...

 

Popular belief is cayenne pepper supposedly keeps arteries clear and
maintains good circulation.
 
How much, in how much water, is open to researching for individuals
determination?
 
Information I've read over time suggests a tablespoon per 8 ounces of water
for immediate use, or a teaspoon for every day consumption {don't know in
how much water tho}.  Has to be drank in one sitting, and as quick as
comfortable for it to be paletable.
 
I don't have a need to drink it - yet - but if I did have, or may develop a
circulatory problem sometime in the future, this is what I intend doing.
 
I'm not into alternatives, herbs, home remedies or supplements and whatever
else, {outside of silver}, but this one I believe may work, just don't ask
me why g.
 
I have my own belief that EIS may do similar, because the particles are not
spherical but more irregularly shaped.  This could be argued I spose, and
most likely will be, but it's my belief.  I'll let you know in another 10
years or so, that should be time enough for my body to be well on the way to
self destruction, considering I've been a smoker for over forty five years.
 
Could be useless info, but thought I'd throw it in the ring anyway Mike.
 
N.
 
 From: mdev...@eskimo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 23:49:29 -0500
 Subject: CSThank you...
 
 Hi everyone,
 
 Thank you to all for your prayers and good wishes for my brother, et. 
 al. 
 
 He came through the procedure well. The doctor was able to place a 
 stent in the biggest of the three occluded grafts, which, combined with 
 the other successful graft, has restored more than 50% circulation to 
 the heart. He will go back for additional stents to be inserted in one 
 or both the remaining grafts after he's had a month for his kidneys to 
 recover from the iodine (dye) they inject to visualize the arteries, 
 and to otherwise recover his strength and heal.
 
 He's home now and bouncing back much more quickly than he did from the 
 initial bypass surgery. I've been preparing his meals and making sure 
 he gets his various meds, though at the rate he's improving I expect 
 him to take over much of this relatively soon.
 
 He saw his surgeon today and got good marks for the healing of his 
 incisions. They are giving him much less pain and discomfort, 
 thankfully.
 
 Now, how can he actually clean out his arteries and prevent a 
 recurrence of this nonsense? He's been using the Pauling protocol for 
 several years, and though it maybe slowed things down, it certainly 
 didn't fix it all.
 
 Again, thank you everyone. That procedure had to go well or things 
 could have gone downhill rapidly. It was comforting to know you were 
 with us.
 
 Peace,
 
 Mike D.



Re: CSThank you...

2011-05-12 Thread MaryAnn Helland
~  :-)  ~~





From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 6:49:29 PM
Subject: CSThank you...

Hi everyone,

Thank you to all for your prayers and good wishes for my brother, et. 
al. 

He came through the procedure well. The doctor was able to place a 
stent in the biggest of the three occluded grafts, which, combined with 
the other successful graft, has restored more than 50% circulation to 
the heart. He will go back for additional stents to be inserted in one 
or both the remaining grafts after he's had a month for his kidneys to 
recover from the iodine (dye) they inject to visualize the arteries, 
and to otherwise recover his strength and heal.

He's home now and bouncing back much more quickly than he did from the 
initial bypass surgery. I've been preparing his meals and making sure 
he gets his various meds, though at the rate he's improving I expect 
him to take over much of this relatively soon.

He saw his surgeon today and got good marks for the healing of his 
incisions. They are giving him much less pain and discomfort, 
thankfully.

Now, how can he actually clean out his arteries and prevent a 
recurrence of this nonsense? He's been using the Pauling protocol for 
several years, and though it maybe slowed things down, it certainly 
didn't fix it all.

Again, thank you everyone. That procedure had to go well or things 
could have gone downhill rapidly. It was comforting to know you were 
with us.

Peace,

Mike D.


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[mdev...@eskimo.com                        ]
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Re: CSThank you...

2011-05-12 Thread PTF
I believe they talked about high dose vitamin C as in liposomal Vit C or sip C. 
 It is important when doing the high C to also take enough minerals as vit C is 
a mineral chelator and can deplete the body.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lisa 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 9:16 AM
  Subject: RE: CSThank you...


  What's used to strengthen the arteries?

   


--

  From: Smitty [mailto:papad...@gmail.com] 
  Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 3:46 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSThank you...

   

 

Popular belief is cayenne pepper supposedly keeps arteries clear and 
maintains good circulation.
 
How much, in how much water, is open to researching for individuals 
determination?

   

   

  Dr. Christopher has some info on cayenne for high blood pressure =

  http://www.zhealthinfo.com/doctor.htm

   

  Also, Serrapeptase is good for scrubbing veins  arteries.

  Google for a supplier.

   

  Smitty 


CSUltrasonic cleaner trouble

2011-05-12 Thread Richard Pells
Sorry Mike, I meant with no items in ie jewelry etc., just fluid. Normally
there would be items in the cleaner with the water and, not being technical,
I was just wondering whether that would make a difference. No, I always go
way past the minimum level. I'm getting more convinced of it being a problem
with the lecithin. The last machine a tried was a bona fide professional
cleaner with a 60 minute timer and 2 year guarantee. That was broken in
little over 15 minutes of continuous use and the tank temperature was below
30 degrees when it was designed to go up to 80 degrees (Centigrade).

All the best
Richard


Re: CSThank you...

2011-05-12 Thread MaryAnn Helland
That would be Mike, Dee -- not Marshall.
MA





From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 7:05:44 AM
Subject: Re: CSThank you...

I am so very pleased for you and your brother Marshall.  kind regards, dee


On 12 May 2011, at 00:54, M. G. Devour wrote:

 Hi everyone,
 
 Thank you to all for your prayers and good wishes for my brother, et. 
 al. 
 
 He came through the procedure well. The doctor was able to place a 
 stent in the biggest of the three occluded grafts, which, combined with 
 the other successful graft, has restored more than 50% circulation to 
 the heart. He will go back for additional stents to be inserted in one 
 or both the remaining grafts after he's had a month for his kidneys to 
 recover from the iodine (dye) they inject to visualize the arteries, 
 and to otherwise recover his strength and heal.
 
 He's home now and bouncing back much more quickly than he did from the 
 initial bypass surgery. I've been preparing his meals and making sure 
 he gets his various meds, though at the rate he's improving I expect 
 him to take over much of this relatively soon.
 
 He saw his surgeon today and got good marks for the healing of his 
 incisions. They are giving him much less pain and discomfort, 
 thankfully.
 
 Now, how can he actually clean out his arteries and prevent a 
 recurrence of this nonsense? He's been using the Pauling protocol for 
 several years, and though it maybe slowed things down, it certainly 
 didn't fix it all.
 
 Again, thank you everyone. That procedure had to go well or things 
 could have gone downhill rapidly. It was comforting to know you were 
 with us.
 
 Peace,
 
 Mike D.
 
 
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 [mdev...@eskimo.com                        ]
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Re: CSUltrasonic cleaner trouble

2011-05-12 Thread PTF
Why do you think it is the lecithin?  And what is your recipe?  When I make my 
let C it is just slightly thicker than water.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Pells 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 9:31 AM
  Subject: CSUltrasonic cleaner trouble


  Sorry Mike, I meant with no items in ie jewelry etc., just fluid. Normally 
there would be items in the cleaner with the water and, not being technical, I 
was just wondering whether that would make a difference. No, I always go way 
past the minimum level. I'm getting more convinced of it being a problem with 
the lecithin. The last machine a tried was a bona fide professional cleaner 
with a 60 minute timer and 2 year guarantee. That was broken in little over 15 
minutes of continuous use and the tank temperature was below 30 degrees when it 
was designed to go up to 80 degrees (Centigrade).


  All the best
  Richard

RE: CSThank you...

2011-05-12 Thread Deborah Gerard
I use it as a spray in my garden nothing will eat your veges with this spray on
-Original Message-
Date: Thursday, May 12, 2011 9:18:38 am
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
From: Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net
Subject: RE: CSThank you...

I think a very strong tincture can be made too (as opposed to using the
powder).

 

Lisa

 

  _  

From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 1:38 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSThank you...

 

Popular belief is cayenne pepper supposedly keeps arteries clear and
maintains good circulation.
 
How much, in how much water, is open to researching for individuals
determination?
 
Information I've read over time suggests a tablespoon per 8 ounces of water
for immediate use, or a teaspoon for every day consumption {don't know in
how much water tho}.  Has to be drank in one sitting, and as quick as
comfortable for it to be paletable.
 
I don't have a need to drink it - yet - but if I did have, or may develop a
circulatory problem sometime in the future, this is what I intend doing.
 
I'm not into alternatives, herbs, home remedies or supplements and whatever
else, {outside of silver}, but this one I believe may work, just don


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CSCayenne Tincture for garden spray

2011-05-12 Thread Saralou

Deborah,

Please tell me about your cayenne tincture garden pest spray.

Is it an alcohol, vinegar, dmso tincture?  A water infusion?

If alcohol, vinegar, dmso--do you dilute it with water?  How much?

Something's destroying my chard.

Thanks.  Saralou

 Original Message 
Subject:RE: CSThank you...
Date:   Thu, 12 May 2011 07:31:33 PDT
From:   Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com


I use it as a spray in my garden nothing will eat your veges with this 
spray on



-Original Message-
Date: Thursday, May 12, 2011 9:18:38 am
To:silver-list@eskimo.com
From: Lisablacksa...@comcast.net

I think a very strong tincture can be made too (as opposed to using the
powder).

Lisa





Re: CSTynall cone strength

2011-05-12 Thread Marshall
Yes and no.  Tyndall alone cannot tell you anything.  That is because it 
varies linearly with the concentration.


Tyndall varies to the 4th power of particle size (diameter)
Tyndall varies linearly with concentration, as does number of particles 
with constant size
Concentration varies to the 3rd power of size given a certain number of 
particles. (4/3piR^3 for a sphere)


Given those, we find the tyndall will vary linearly with particle size 
if you maintain the same concentration (whereas it varies to the 4th 
power if you maintain the same number of particles).   This is because 
if you double the particle size, you will get 16 times the tyndall off 
of each particle, but you will only have 1/8 as many particles, thus 
tyndall will also double.


That means that two solutions with the same tyndall, one 5 ppm, and one 
20 ppm, will have sizes which are 4:1 different as well.


In addition the brightness of the laser can vary significantly from unit 
to unit, and with battery life.  A third problem, particles will not be 
of a consistent size, but will have a range of sizes.  The larger 
particles will contain both more mass (% of the silver) by the 3rd power 
of their size, and more tyndall by the 4th power.  So larger particles 
can increase the tyndall beyond what it would be if all particles were 
the average size.  And additional problem, especially if you add H2O2 is 
that gas, often oxygen, will form on each particle, making it appear 
larger and giving off a lot more tyndall.  This in the extreme can cause 
some CS (generally above 20 ppm) to almost appear milky when H2O2 is 
added and have an extremely strong tyndall, although the actual 
particles are really quite small (I believe typically 2 atoms each).


Marshall

On 5/11/2011 7:58 PM, Neville Munn wrote:

[Little TE means very small particles. Remember that the Tyndall varies
to the 4th power of the particle size, so if you halve the size, the
Tyndall goes down by 16:1.]

Marshall, or anyone else if they feel inclined, I'd like to run 
something past you.


As ridiculous as this question may seem, I'd still like to hear what 
you may have to say.


I've broken my Tyndall cone effect into five catagories...Nil, Faint, 
faint/Good, Good, and Strong.


Not being the sharpest knife in the draw regarding mathematics, by 
using your calculation as mentioned here, is it possible to get an 
approximate {and I repeat, an *approximate* or Wild Arse Guess if you 
like} particle size using the strength of laser beam through solution?


Eg; Faint may be 'x' particle size, Good may be 'y' particle size etc 
etc, and praps all WAG's as I have indicated.


N.





Re: CSThank you...

2011-05-12 Thread Sandee George

Great news Mike -
Regards
Sandee
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RE: CSCayenne Tincture for garden spray

2011-05-12 Thread Deborah Gerard
Hijust boil a tablespoon to a qt.of filtered water let cool...strainand 
put in a spray bottle. I add a little CS for a preservtive too.   Debbie :)
-Original Message-
Date: Thursday, May 12, 2011 11:11:34 am
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
From: Saralou slped...@gmail.com
Subject: CSCayenne Tincture for garden spray

Deborah,

Please tell me about your cayenne tincture garden pest spray.

Is it an alcohol, vinegar, dmso tincture?  A water infusion?

If alcohol, vinegar, dmso--do you dilute it with water?  How much?

Something's destroying my chard.

Thanks.  Saralou

 Original Message 
Subject:RE: CSThank you...
Date:   Thu, 12 May 2011 07:31:33 PDT
From:   Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com


I use it as a spray in my garden nothing will eat your veges with this 
spray on


-Original Message-
Date: Thursday, May 12, 2011 9:18:38 am
To:silver-list@eskimo.com
From: Lisablacksa...@comcast.net

I think a very strong tincture can be made too (as opposed to using the
powder).

Lisa






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RE: CSTynall cone strength

2011-05-12 Thread Neville Munn

Of course - size and concentration both need to be considered.  I should have 
thought of that.
 
And I know how unreliable lasers can be with the several I've got.
 
Thanks for your time anyway Marshall, appreciated.
 
N.
 


Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 11:14:46 -0400
From: mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSTynall cone strength


Yes and no.  Tyndall alone cannot tell you anything.  That is because it varies 
linearly with the concentration.

Tyndall varies to the 4th power of particle size (diameter)
Tyndall varies linearly with concentration, as does number of particles with 
constant size
Concentration varies to the 3rd power of size given a certain number of 
particles. (4/3piR^3 for a sphere)

Given those, we find the tyndall will vary linearly with particle size if you 
maintain the same concentration (whereas it varies to the 4th power if you 
maintain the same number of particles).   This is because if you double the 
particle size, you will get 16 times the tyndall off of each particle, but you 
will only have 1/8 as many particles, thus tyndall will also double.

That means that two solutions with the same tyndall, one 5 ppm, and one 20 ppm, 
will have sizes which are 4:1 different as well.

In addition the brightness of the laser can vary significantly from unit to 
unit, and with battery life.  A third problem, particles will not be of a 
consistent size, but will have a range of sizes.  The larger particles will 
contain both more mass (% of the silver) by the 3rd power of their size, and 
more tyndall by the 4th power.  So larger particles can increase the tyndall 
beyond what it would be if all particles were the average size.  And additional 
problem, especially if you add H2O2 is that gas, often oxygen, will form on 
each particle, making it appear larger and giving off a lot more tyndall.  This 
in the extreme can cause some CS (generally above 20 ppm) to almost appear 
milky when H2O2 is added and have an extremely strong tyndall, although the 
actual particles are really quite small (I believe typically 2 atoms each).

Marshall

  

Re: CSThank you...

2011-05-12 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
So sorry--senior moments again I'm afraid!  I meant Mike of course.   regards 
dee


On 12 May 2011, at 14:34, MaryAnn Helland wrote:

 That would be Mike, Dee -- not Marshall.
 MA
 
 From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 7:05:44 AM
 Subject: Re: CSThank you...
 
 I am so very pleased for you and your brother Marshall.  kind regards, dee
 
 
 On 12 May 2011, at 00:54, M. G. Devour wrote:
 
  Hi everyone,
  
  Thank you to all for your prayers and good wishes for my brother, et. 
  al. 
  
  He came through the procedure well. The doctor was able to place a 
  stent in the biggest of the three occluded grafts, which, combined with 
  the other successful graft, has restored more than 50% circulation to 
  the heart. He will go back for additional stents to be inserted in one 
  or both the remaining grafts after he's had a month for his kidneys to 
  recover from the iodine (dye) they inject to visualize the arteries, 
  and to otherwise recover his strength and heal.
  
  He's home now and bouncing back much more quickly than he did from the 
  initial bypass surgery. I've been preparing his meals and making sure 
  he gets his various meds, though at the rate he's improving I expect 
  him to take over much of this relatively soon.
  
  He saw his surgeon today and got good marks for the healing of his 
  incisions. They are giving him much less pain and discomfort, 
  thankfully.
  
  Now, how can he actually clean out his arteries and prevent a 
  recurrence of this nonsense? He's been using the Pauling protocol for 
  several years, and though it maybe slowed things down, it certainly 
  didn't fix it all.
  
  Again, thank you everyone. That procedure had to go well or things 
  could have gone downhill rapidly. It was comforting to know you were 
  with us.
  
  Peace,
  
  Mike D.
  
  
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Re: CSThank you...

2011-05-12 Thread sol

Lisa wrote:


What’s used to strengthen the arteries?

From what I'm eading just lately, getting ALL the PUFAs 
(poly-unsaturated fatty acids) out of your diet, including the so-called 
beneficial fish oils because if not rancid when ingested, they turn 
rancid almost immediately upon ingestion. Here is one reference, though 
I've read others.

http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/fishoil.shtml
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CSUltrasonic cleaner trouble

2011-05-12 Thread Richard Pells
The lecithin mixture I'm using is exactly as instructed...3 tablespoons in
8oz of distilled water, plus 1 tablespoon of AA and half a tablespoon of
baking soda in 4oz dw. For the larger, professional machine I had to double
everything because of the larger tank capacity. I've only ever used James
Products though. I've now ordered the large Harbor Freight type. I only
thought it must be the lecithin because it's not water. Is there some sort
of feed back to the transducer? Does it have to work too hard producing the
effect in a thicker solution? I can't think what else it could be. Anyway,
I'll try the new one and see how that goes.
Thanks
Richard


Re: CSThank you...

2011-05-12 Thread sol

M. G. Devour wrote:


Now, how can he actually clean out his arteries and prevent a 
recurrence of this nonsense? He's been using the Pauling protocol for 
several years, and though it maybe slowed things down, it certainly 
didn't fix it all.
  

Mike,
 I have a good friend with completely clear arteries, who says it is 
due to serrapeptase and nattokinase she takes. Also she eats very few 
PUFAs and does eat good fats, coconut oil and butter.

sol


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CSSezary Disease

2011-05-12 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
An acquaintance his been diagnosed with a rare disease. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sézary's_disease

If anyone has information about treatments that offer a better prognosis than 
the standard five years, please advise. 

There is reportedly no known cause.   



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CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2011 #122

2011-05-12 Thread Melly Bag
Mike,
 
Thanks for the update. Glad your brother is doing fine.
 
Let us all thank God for the answered prayer.
 
Melly

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silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote:


From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com
Subject: silver-digest Digest V2011 #122
To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, May 12, 2011, 7:31 PM



Re: CSSezary Disease

2011-05-12 Thread Bob Banever

Weird.  If it were me, I'd dose myself with MMS and CS daily.
- Original Message - 
From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 5:52 PM
Subject: CSSezary Disease


An acquaintance his been diagnosed with a rare disease.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sézary's_disease

If anyone has information about treatments that offer a better prognosis 
than the standard five years, please advise.


There is reportedly no known cause.



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Re: CSThank you...

2011-05-12 Thread Pat Lawrie
How does one know if their arteries are clear or not? I took several bottles of 
serrapeptase and nattokinase, but I didn't see or feel anything different 
before 
or after. How would you know without getting expensive and invasive dye studies?

Pat





From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 3:34:57 PM
Subject: Re: CSThank you...

M. G. Devour wrote:
 
 Now, how can he actually clean out his arteries and prevent a recurrence of 
this nonsense? He's been using the Pauling protocol for several years, and 
though it maybe slowed things down, it certainly didn't fix it all.
  
Mike,
I have a good friend with completely clear arteries, who says it is due to 
serrapeptase and nattokinase she takes. Also she eats very few PUFAs and does 
eat good fats, coconut oil and butter.
sol


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Re: CSUltrasonic cleaner trouble

2011-05-12 Thread M. G. Devour
 Sorry Mike, I meant with no items in ie jewelry etc., just fluid.

Ahh, that's sensible! lol

I don't see why it should break the unit(s). I've run proper 
professional units with just water in them for extended periods without 
problems. I can't imagine that the lecithin is going to cause a 
problem, but without testing, how could we know?

My suspicion is you got a couple of bad units... but that seems so 
unlikely if they're indeed a solid brand.

If you get to try another one, try running it for an hour with just 
water, first?

sigh Dunno what else to say...

...except, good luck with the Harbor Freight unit!

Peace,

Mike D.

 Normally there would be items in the cleaner with the water and, not
 being technical, I was just wondering whether that would make a
 difference. No, I always go way past the minimum level. I'm getting more
 convinced of it being a problem with the lecithin. The last machine a
 tried was a bona fide professional cleaner with a 60 minute timer and 2
 year guarantee. That was broken in little over 15 minutes of continuous
 use and the tank temperature was below 30 degrees when it was designed
 to go up to 80 degrees (Centigrade).
 
 All the best
 Richard
 

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Re: CSUltrasonic cleaner trouble

2011-05-12 Thread PTF
Do you let the lecithin dissolve completely in the water before mixing?  I 
usually let mine set for about 5-6 hours and then whir it in the blender.  I 
also make sure that the AA is thoroughly dissolved.  I don't use any baking 
soda in mine.
PT
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  From: Richard Pells 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 3:46 PM
  Subject: CSUltrasonic cleaner trouble


  The lecithin mixture I'm using is exactly as instructed...3 tablespoons in 
8oz of distilled water, plus 1 tablespoon of AA and half a tablespoon of baking 
soda in 4oz dw. For the larger, professional machine I had to double everything 
because of the larger tank capacity. I've only ever used James Products though. 
I've now ordered the large Harbor Freight type. I only thought it must be the 
lecithin because it's not water. Is there some sort of feed back to the 
transducer? Does it have to work too hard producing the effect in a thicker 
solution? I can't think what else it could be. Anyway, I'll try the new one and 
see how that goes.
  Thanks
  Richard

Re: CSThank you...

2011-05-12 Thread sol
Pat, I don't know if there is any other way. My friend did have invasive 
dye tests, at the VA. She has lung problems and her docs were convinced 
she had clogged arteries, but turned out they were squeaky clean.
I don't know if she felt anything different before taking the 
nattokinase, etc vs after taking them for some time, but I will 
ask...

sol

Pat Lawrie wrote:
How does one know if their arteries are clear or not? I took several 
bottles of serrapeptase and nattokinase, but I didn't see or feel 
anything different before or after. How would you know without getting 
expensive and invasive dye studies?
 



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Re: CSThank you...

2011-05-12 Thread Helena
Very glad that your brother is doing fine.  I will continue to send Light 
and prayers for his continued healing.

Helena
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Subject: CSThank you...



Hi everyone,

Thank you to all for your prayers and good wishes for my brother, et.
al.

He came through the procedure well. The doctor was able to place a
stent in the biggest of the three occluded grafts, which, combined with
the other successful graft, has restored more than 50% circulation to
the heart. He will go back for additional stents to be inserted in one
or both the remaining grafts after he's had a month for his kidneys to
recover from the iodine (dye) they inject to visualize the arteries,
and to otherwise recover his strength and heal.

He's home now and bouncing back much more quickly than he did from the
initial bypass surgery. I've been preparing his meals and making sure
he gets his various meds, though at the rate he's improving I expect
him to take over much of this relatively soon.

He saw his surgeon today and got good marks for the healing of his
incisions. They are giving him much less pain and discomfort,
thankfully.

Now, how can he actually clean out his arteries and prevent a
recurrence of this nonsense? He's been using the Pauling protocol for
several years, and though it maybe slowed things down, it certainly
didn't fix it all.

Again, thank you everyone. That procedure had to go well or things
could have gone downhill rapidly. It was comforting to know you were
with us.

Peace,

Mike D.


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