Re: CSBioremediation at Fukushima

2011-09-17 Thread Bob Banever

Jonathan,

 Forgive me, but what is EM.   Thanks.
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Subject: CSBioremediation at Fukushima


Some members, particularly Brooks Bradley, are familiar with the Essential 
Microorganisms  (EM) of Terao Higa, PhD.  The proprietor of a local EM shop 
told me today that volunteers in Fukushima area are experimenting with EM on 
contaminated crops.  He said blueberries went from 20,000 becquerels down to 
5,000, a 75% drop.  I don't know the details.


He also said people volunteering in that area are suffering from throat 
problems, which I took to be due to radiation, but am not sure.  If I get 
more details I'll pass them along.Incidentally, these volunteers consume 
EM themselves.


Incidentally, most of the news in the corporate press regarding this 
disaster is, to put it mildly, inadequate.  There have been at least three 
melt-downs and apparently a total melt-through in at least in one instance; 
some experts fear that radiation is actually moving down through the earth 
toward groundwater.   Given the sugar-coating in the mainstream news to 
date, this is certainly possible.   Japanese people are deeply skeptical of 
government reports, and I think some major changes are ahead for Japan, but 
that's all off-topic.





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Re: CSDesulfurizing

2011-09-17 Thread Mike Monett
Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:

On 9/15/2011 11:56 PM, Mike Monett wrote:
Marshall, I  would   really   like   for   you   to  do  the thermal
decomposition experiment  for  silver hydroxide. It  is  one  of the
easiest of all to perform, since it occurs at such a low temperature
- barely enough to cook hamburger, if you can wait that long:)

But there  is  something magic when you see the  black  deposit turn
gray right  in  front of your eyes. It reaches  somewhere  deep down
inside and  you suddenly realize that what these  people  are saying
could actually harm you. So you begin to wonder what  other mistakes
they have made, and what is the real truth about what is happening.

I am not questioning that you have seen the effect.  I am however 
questioning your interpretation of it.  First I cannot find any 
reference anywhere to silver hydroxide. It is not even in my CRC 
handbook, and every reference I can find says that it can only exist in 
a hydrated form. Thus I am unable to find anywhere that tells its color, 
if it does exist.  You are claiming that the black stuff is silver 
hydroxide, I think it is silver oxide Ag2O, which my book says is black 
or brown-black. The crystalline form shifts when it is heated.  Silver 
oxide is normal a cubic crystal, but when deposited on an electrode I 
would expect most of it to be amorphous.  If it is amorphous, it would 
almost certainly be black. As is normal with amorphous materials that 
are normally crystalline, they will form crystals when they are heated 
sufficiently. So that goes right along with the idea that a black 
amorphous compound crystallizes and changes color when heated.

Is there any test data to support either of these possibilities. In fact 
there is. There is a paper that shows that when formed by an 
electrolytic cell and deposited on an electrode, Ag2O is indeed laid 
down as a mixture of amorphous and cubic forms.  This can be viewed at 
http://web.mit.edu/dsadoway/www/134.pdf

I am unable to find at what temperature you said this action takes 
place.  Another possibility is that the precipitate contains both AgO 
and Ag2O.  AgO decomposes at about 100 C lower temperature than Ag2O.  
This is given in the paper at 
http://www.iupac.org/publications/pac/2/1/0211/pdf/ which also shows 
that various forms of Ag2O, specifically the the 220 and 331, 
spontaneously form the cubic 111 form at temperatures no higher than 150 
C, which is the temperature they did the annealing at.

Marshall

1. In your 134.pdf, sodium acetate and AgNO3 have nothing to do with silver
ions combining with hydroxide ions in the Nenst Diffusion layer in
distilled water and forming AgOH.

2. Ag2O decomposes at 280C. If AgO decomposed 100C lower, it would still be
180C.

3. AgOH decomposes between 60C to 80C. That is lower than any other
compound of silver, and 100C lower than AgO.

4. If AgOH were soluble, or if it changed spontaneously to Ag2O, you would
never see yellow cs. Everything would be ions, which are not visible to the
eye.

5. If the material that forms on the elecrodes were Ag2O, it would
dissolve. You would never see the black deposit.

6. What other compound of silver meets all of the above? Only AgOH.

Mike


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CSorthontics

2011-09-17 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Hi all, for all you folk that posted about plantar fascillitus/tendonitis using 
orthontics; can you tell me which type you used as there seems to be quite a 
range of products available.  Many thanks.  dee

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Re: CSOT - lymphatics

2011-09-17 Thread Sara Mandal-Joy
 a rebounder is great in that situation.  For actual exercise, jumping, 
lifting feet off the rebounder kind of movement you need an expensive 
rebounder, not the cheapie kinds, or you can damage your feet and 
knees.  But, for moving lymphatics all you need to do is sit on the 
rebounder and let your body move enough for a gentle rocking.  It is 
effective for moving lymph.  An even better alternative is getting one 
of the bigger outdoor trampolines, and sit on it while a friend jumps. Sara


On 9/16/2011 10:09 PM, PTFerrance wrote:


I know the best way to move lymphatics is to exercise but for someone 
who cannot do that very well does anyone have any alternative 
suggestions.  I know someone in this situation and would like to be 
able to offer some suggestions.


Thanks.

PT




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RE: CSBioremediation at Fukushima

2011-09-17 Thread PTFerrance
What does EM mean?
Thanks.
PT

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp] 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 11:23 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSBioremediation at Fukushima

Some members, particularly Brooks Bradley, are familiar with the Essential
Microorganisms  (EM) of Terao Higa, PhD.  The proprietor of a local EM shop
told me today that volunteers in Fukushima area are experimenting with EM on
contaminated crops.  He said blueberries went from 20,000 becquerels down to
5,000, a 75% drop.  I don't know the details.  

He also said people volunteering in that area are suffering from throat
problems, which I took to be due to radiation, but am not sure.  If I get
more details I'll pass them along.Incidentally, these volunteers consume
EM themselves.   

Incidentally, most of the news in the corporate press regarding this
disaster is, to put it mildly, inadequate.  There have been at least three
melt-downs and apparently a total melt-through in at least in one instance;
some experts fear that radiation is actually moving down through the earth
toward groundwater.   Given the sugar-coating in the mainstream news to
date, this is certainly possible.   Japanese people are deeply skeptical of
government reports, and I think some major changes are ahead for Japan, but
that's all off-topic.  




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RE: CSOT - lymphatics

2011-09-17 Thread PTFerrance
Thanks to all who replied with great suggestions.  I also remembered reading
that the soleus muscle in the legs is a blood pump and when people used to
rock in rocking chairs they were actually helping their circulation.  I'll
bet there is some lymphatic stimulation there also.  Thanks for reminding
me...
PT

-Original Message-
From: Sara Mandal-Joy [mailto:smjl...@wavewls.com] 
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 7:37 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSOT - lymphatics

  a rebounder is great in that situation.  For actual exercise, jumping, 
lifting feet off the rebounder kind of movement you need an expensive 
rebounder, not the cheapie kinds, or you can damage your feet and 
knees.  But, for moving lymphatics all you need to do is sit on the 
rebounder and let your body move enough for a gentle rocking.  It is 
effective for moving lymph.  An even better alternative is getting one 
of the bigger outdoor trampolines, and sit on it while a friend jumps. Sara

On 9/16/2011 10:09 PM, PTFerrance wrote:

 I know the best way to move lymphatics is to exercise but for someone 
 who cannot do that very well does anyone have any alternative 
 suggestions.  I know someone in this situation and would like to be 
 able to offer some suggestions.

 Thanks.

 PT



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Re: CSBioremediation at Fukushima

2011-09-17 Thread anthony . aquifer
I think its Essential Microorganisms. Someone please correct if wrong. 
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From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 07:40:21 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSBioremediation at Fukushima

What does EM mean?
Thanks.
PT

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp] 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 11:23 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSBioremediation at Fukushima

Some members, particularly Brooks Bradley, are familiar with the Essential
Microorganisms  (EM) of Terao Higa, PhD.  The proprietor of a local EM shop
told me today that volunteers in Fukushima area are experimenting with EM on
contaminated crops.  He said blueberries went from 20,000 becquerels down to
5,000, a 75% drop.  I don't know the details.  

He also said people volunteering in that area are suffering from throat
problems, which I took to be due to radiation, but am not sure.  If I get
more details I'll pass them along.Incidentally, these volunteers consume
EM themselves.   

Incidentally, most of the news in the corporate press regarding this
disaster is, to put it mildly, inadequate.  There have been at least three
melt-downs and apparently a total melt-through in at least in one instance;
some experts fear that radiation is actually moving down through the earth
toward groundwater.   Given the sugar-coating in the mainstream news to
date, this is certainly possible.   Japanese people are deeply skeptical of
government reports, and I think some major changes are ahead for Japan, but
that's all off-topic.  




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Re: CSOT - lymphatics

2011-09-17 Thread gaiac...@gmail.com
For just moving lymph you don't even need to have the feet lift off the
rebounder.  Just keep the feet on and a little gentle bounce and the lymph
will pump.  Going higher than that is called exercise. 

Samala,
Renee 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
 
  a rebounder is great in that situation.  For actual exercise, jumping,
lifting feet off the rebounder kind of movement you need an expensive
rebounder, not the cheapie kinds, or you can damage your feet and
knees.  happy.gif

Re: CSBioremediation at Fukushima

2011-09-17 Thread Jason R Eaton

Greetings, all:

Actually, the term is Effective Microorganisms.  The company in the United 
States that is now distributing this quite amazing product is Teraganix:


http://www.teraganix.com/Effective-Microorganisms-History-and-Availability-s/194.htm

Dr. Higa's book, An Earth Saving Revolution is a very, very fascinating 
read.


Dr. Higa's microbial forumation uses sevearl more common organisms to 
support the sustained existance of phototropic organisms, amazing little 
critters that cannot exist in an oxygen-rich environment, but are 
extraordinarily efficient at processing-- what to us-- is toxic waste 
material, and producing waste-- that to our environment-- is life 
sustaining.


One of the most enjoyable experiments I've done is proving that these 
organisms actually do exist in the retail product.  When cultivated 
properly, they are the most amazing purple colored organisms.


Best Regards,

Jason

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From: anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 06:47
Subject: Re: CSBioremediation at Fukushima



I think its Essential Microorganisms. Someone please correct if wrong.
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld

-Original Message-
From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 07:40:21
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSBioremediation at Fukushima

What does EM mean?
Thanks.
PT

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp]
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 11:23 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSBioremediation at Fukushima

Some members, particularly Brooks Bradley, are familiar with the Essential
Microorganisms  (EM) of Terao Higa, PhD.  The proprietor of a local EM 
shop
told me today that volunteers in Fukushima area are experimenting with EM 
on
contaminated crops.  He said blueberries went from 20,000 becquerels down 
to

5,000, a 75% drop.  I don't know the details.

He also said people volunteering in that area are suffering from throat
problems, which I took to be due to radiation, but am not sure.  If I get
more details I'll pass them along.Incidentally, these volunteers 
consume

EM themselves.

Incidentally, most of the news in the corporate press regarding this
disaster is, to put it mildly, inadequate.  There have been at least three
melt-downs and apparently a total melt-through in at least in one 
instance;

some experts fear that radiation is actually moving down through the earth
toward groundwater.   Given the sugar-coating in the mainstream news to
date, this is certainly possible.   Japanese people are deeply skeptical 
of
government reports, and I think some major changes are ahead for Japan, 
but

that's all off-topic.




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Re: CSBioremediation at Fukushima

2011-09-17 Thread Bob Banever

Yep... got it thanks.

Bob
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
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Subject: Re: CSBioremediation at Fukushima



I think its Essential Microorganisms. Someone please correct if wrong.
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld

-Original Message-
From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 07:40:21
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSBioremediation at Fukushima

What does EM mean?
Thanks.
PT

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp]
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 11:23 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSBioremediation at Fukushima

Some members, particularly Brooks Bradley, are familiar with the Essential
Microorganisms  (EM) of Terao Higa, PhD.  The proprietor of a local EM 
shop
told me today that volunteers in Fukushima area are experimenting with EM 
on
contaminated crops.  He said blueberries went from 20,000 becquerels down 
to

5,000, a 75% drop.  I don't know the details.

He also said people volunteering in that area are suffering from throat
problems, which I took to be due to radiation, but am not sure.  If I get
more details I'll pass them along.Incidentally, these volunteers 
consume

EM themselves.

Incidentally, most of the news in the corporate press regarding this
disaster is, to put it mildly, inadequate.  There have been at least three
melt-downs and apparently a total melt-through in at least in one 
instance;

some experts fear that radiation is actually moving down through the earth
toward groundwater.   Given the sugar-coating in the mainstream news to
date, this is certainly possible.   Japanese people are deeply skeptical 
of
government reports, and I think some major changes are ahead for Japan, 
but

that's all off-topic.




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RE: CSEMs

2011-09-17 Thread PTFerrance
Has anyone on the list used these Effective Microorganisms to good effect?
Thanks.
PT

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From: Jason R Eaton [mailto:ja...@eytonsearth.org] 
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 10:48 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSBioremediation at Fukushima

Greetings, all:

Actually, the term is Effective Microorganisms.  The company in the United 
States that is now distributing this quite amazing product is Teraganix:

http://www.teraganix.com/Effective-Microorganisms-History-and-Availability-s/194.htm

Dr. Higa's book, An Earth Saving Revolution is a very, very fascinating 
read.

Dr. Higa's microbial forumation uses sevearl more common organisms to 
support the sustained existance of phototropic organisms, amazing little 
critters that cannot exist in an oxygen-rich environment, but are 
extraordinarily efficient at processing-- what to us-- is toxic waste 
material, and producing waste-- that to our environment-- is life 
sustaining.

One of the most enjoyable experiments I've done is proving that these 
organisms actually do exist in the retail product.  When cultivated 
properly, they are the most amazing purple colored organisms.

Best Regards,

Jason

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From: anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 06:47
Subject: Re: CSBioremediation at Fukushima


I think its Essential Microorganisms. Someone please correct if wrong.
 Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld

 -Original Message-
 From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net
 Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 07:40:21
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: RE: CSBioremediation at Fukushima

 What does EM mean?
 Thanks.
 PT

 -Original Message-
 From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp]
 Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 11:23 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSBioremediation at Fukushima

 Some members, particularly Brooks Bradley, are familiar with the Essential
 Microorganisms  (EM) of Terao Higa, PhD.  The proprietor of a local EM 
 shop
 told me today that volunteers in Fukushima area are experimenting with EM 
 on
 contaminated crops.  He said blueberries went from 20,000 becquerels down 
 to
 5,000, a 75% drop.  I don't know the details.

 He also said people volunteering in that area are suffering from throat
 problems, which I took to be due to radiation, but am not sure.  If I get
 more details I'll pass them along.Incidentally, these volunteers 
 consume
 EM themselves.

 Incidentally, most of the news in the corporate press regarding this
 disaster is, to put it mildly, inadequate.  There have been at least three
 melt-downs and apparently a total melt-through in at least in one 
 instance;
 some experts fear that radiation is actually moving down through the earth
 toward groundwater.   Given the sugar-coating in the mainstream news to
 date, this is certainly possible.   Japanese people are deeply skeptical 
 of
 government reports, and I think some major changes are ahead for Japan, 
 but
 that's all off-topic.




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CSBob Banever

2011-09-17 Thread gaiac...@gmail.com
Bob--was it you that sent me the phone number of Ol' Bob's wife for me to
ask her for permission to use his info?  If so, could you send it to me
again?  3 to 4 weeks ago I had a major OS crash and though I was able to
save my files/folders, I lost all my email and contacts.  It wiped my
incredimail.  Sigh

Samala,
Renee 
 
 
 
 

RE: CSBioremediation at Fukushima

2011-09-17 Thread PTFerrance
Sorry, I just figured it out... but still don't understand how you can have
an Essential Microorganism shop?
Thanks.
PT

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp] 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 11:23 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSBioremediation at Fukushima

Some members, particularly Brooks Bradley, are familiar with the Essential
Microorganisms  (EM) of Terao Higa, PhD.  The proprietor of a local EM shop
told me today that volunteers in Fukushima area are experimenting with EM on
contaminated crops.  He said blueberries went from 20,000 becquerels down to
5,000, a 75% drop.  I don't know the details.  

He also said people volunteering in that area are suffering from throat
problems, which I took to be due to radiation, but am not sure.  If I get
more details I'll pass them along.Incidentally, these volunteers consume
EM themselves.   

Incidentally, most of the news in the corporate press regarding this
disaster is, to put it mildly, inadequate.  There have been at least three
melt-downs and apparently a total melt-through in at least in one instance;
some experts fear that radiation is actually moving down through the earth
toward groundwater.   Given the sugar-coating in the mainstream news to
date, this is certainly possible.   Japanese people are deeply skeptical of
government reports, and I think some major changes are ahead for Japan, but
that's all off-topic.  




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Re: CSBob Banever

2011-09-17 Thread Bob Banever
Renee,

   Sorry, it wasn't me.

Bob
  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 8:26 AM
  Subject: CSBob Banever


Bob--was it you that sent me the phone number of Ol' Bob's wife for me 
to ask her for permission to use his info?  If so, could you send it to me 
again?  3 to 4 weeks ago I had a major OS crash and though I was able to save 
my files/folders, I lost all my email and contacts.  It wiped my incredimail.  
Sigh

Samala,
Renee 



   
  
   


Re: CSDesulfurizing

2011-09-17 Thread Mike Monett
Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:

Guess I better get in quick then g.

One would like to think that praps you could do one the courtesy of shedding 
some light on those few points I raised earlier before you dissappear?

All in the interest of furthering my knowledge, by those who appear to have 
the knowledge.

No disrespect intended.

N.

There can be no offense for a request in search for truth.

The issues you raise are many and varied, and they go to the heart of what
we are trying to accomplish with silver ions.

In many cases, the information is not complete, so the search continues.

It would, therefore, be of little use to try to answer your questions in
this forum, and then leave.

But your questions are very good ones, and the answers could help other
truth seekers and newcomers to the field.

I invite you to join the SilverCentral forum, where we can have the
advantage of the results of the latest in technology, and use it to good
benefit to answer some of these questions.

You can see some of the work that has already been accomplished at

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/silvercentral/messages

Please accept this invitation to start your quest in a forum where you will
get useful and accurate answers. It is free and will cost you nothing. 

No prayer is needed to join or to participate.

Best Regards,

Mike Monett
SilverCell


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Re: CSDesulfurizing

2011-09-17 Thread Mike Monett
  PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

   Mike wrote,I  have  had  all  these,  and  a  low  silver ion
   concentration had  little or no effect. But as soon as I  was able
   to learn  how  to  dramatically  increase  the  concentration, the
   healing was immediate.

   So you are basing all this on your experience alone? Every body is
   different. What works for you might not work for someone  else and
   can cause  problems for someone else. People on *this*  forum have
   been using  CS for years with good effect and now you  are telling
   them it  is  not  working? It is illogical of  you  to  deny their
   experience.

  PT

  PT, I in no way ever said or implied that people have  not benefited
  greatly from  the  silver  ions in colloidal  silver.  This  fact is
  undeniable, and it is why cs is so popular among knowledgable people
  to help prevent many types of illnesses.

  The history  of  colloidal silver reaches back to  the  early Apollo
  days, when  NASA  used simple silver  electrolysis  to  help prevent
  pathogens from  growing in the astronauts drinking water on  the way
  to the  moon. They even restricted the ion content to less  than 100
  parts per billion to try to prevent Argyria.

  The Russians  also  used  cs in the  MIR  satellite,  which  was the
  longest orbital satellite under continuous habitation.  The Russians
  were not  so concerned with Argyria as they were  with  results, and
  they used a considerablly higher ion concentration.

  Out of these adventures, someone connected three 9 volt batteries in
  series, and  applied  27  volts  to  silver  electrodes  immersed in
  distilled water. The 3 nines was born.

  There are records of people taking cs continually since the 1980's.

  Virtually everyone  who takes it regularly states they  can remember
  what a cold or flu feels like, but they can't remember the last time
  they had one, as it was so long ago.

  So there is absolutely no question of the benefit of silver  ions in
  combating pathogens.

  However, viruses, which are not affected by antibiotics, continually
  evolve to evade the body's defenses and often grow stronger.

  There are  cases  when the standard ion concentration  fails,  but a
  higher silver  ion concentration miraculously solves the  problem. I
  anticipate more  people  will  find   they  have  an  infection that
  conventional cs does not overcome.

  For example, please see my post to Sol on 19 Oct 2004:

  http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg76134.html

  Please note  that  three  individuals  experienced  problems  with a
  particularly virulent  Herpes  Simplex  virus  that  simply  did not
  respond to a conventional silver ion concentration.

  However, by  increasing the ion concentration, and  using sublingual
  absorption instead  of  ingesting  the  cs,  the  virus  was quickly
  vanquished.

  Note that Sol also found that a stronger cs worked better for her as
  well.

  It is these cases I address with the SilverCell process.

  In these  cases,  I present a new breakthrough  in  colloidal silver
  that increases  the  ion  concentration  about  ten  times  over the
  original 3 nines.

  There is  a   natural   built-in   limitation  with  conventional cs
  generators that  makes it very difficult to get much  above  16uS or
  18uS. But  the  SilverCell process can easily  reach  44uS.  This is
  enough to  vastly  overwhelm   virulent  pathogens,  with  plenty of
  reserve to address the survivors.

  In addition  to the significantly improved results  with  the higher
  ion concentration,  it also means you can use  sublingual absorption
  instead of ingesting the cs.

  This completely eliminates any concern of Argyria, since  you absorb
  only a very small amount, and expel the rest. The  ion concentration
  absorbed results  in  less than 20 parts per  billion  in  the blood
  stream for a normal male with a blood content of 5.5 litres.

  In addition, while you are holding the solution in your mouth for 12
  minutes, is is also killing the bacteria that cause gum  disease and
  dental cavities.  So  you  don't have to pay  for  dental  visits as
  often.

  In addition, the SilverCell generator is easy to make, easy  to use,
  and is less expensive than a 3 nines. So if you are a bit handy, you
  can make  yourself  a unit that outperforms any  other  cs generator
  anywere, for basically the cost of the silver.

  Most of  the  current generators suffer from  problems  with  the cs
  turning yellow.  A  lot  of  people try  adding  H2O2  to  solve the
  problem. It often doesn't work.

  The SilverCell process cannot make silver hydroxide, AgOH.  There is
  no Tyndall, and the solution cannot turn yellow. So that  problem is
  finally solved, and there is one less thing to have to fuss with.

  I also  show  that  moving to  borosilicate  containers  for  the cs
  generator will  avoid leaching and contamination  problems  with the
  

Re: CSBioremediation at Fukushima

2011-09-17 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
Bob, 

Essential Microoranisms = EM. 


On 2011/09/17, at 15:02, Bob Banever wrote:

 Jonathan,
 
 Forgive me, but what is EM.   Thanks.
 - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten 
 jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 8:23 PM
 Subject: CSBioremediation at Fukushima
 
 
 Some members, particularly Brooks Bradley, are familiar with the Essential 
 Microorganisms  (EM) of Terao Higa, PhD.  The proprietor of a local EM shop 
 told me today that volunteers in Fukushima area are experimenting with EM on 
 contaminated crops.  He said blueberries went from 20,000 becquerels down to 
 5,000, a 75% drop.  I don't know the details.
 
 He also said people volunteering in that area are suffering from throat 
 problems, which I took to be due to radiation, but am not sure.  If I get 
 more details I'll pass them along.Incidentally, these volunteers consume 
 EM themselves.
 
 Incidentally, most of the news in the corporate press regarding this disaster 
 is, to put it mildly, inadequate.  There have been at least three melt-downs 
 and apparently a total melt-through in at least in one instance; some experts 
 fear that radiation is actually moving down through the earth toward 
 groundwater.   Given the sugar-coating in the mainstream news to date, this 
 is certainly possible.   Japanese people are deeply skeptical of government 
 reports, and I think some major changes are ahead for Japan, but that's all 
 off-topic.
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSBioremediation at Fukushima

2011-09-17 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
The name that Terao Higa coined is Essential Microorganisms.  The company that 
marketed the original formula in the USA is called Sustainable Community 
Development Probiotics.   The founder trained with Higa.   Other companies have 
copied Higa's work.   So far as I know, none of them have the same vision.   

 Higa's book really is amazing and is essential reading.   He really believes 
that EM is an earth-saving revolution.  His volunteer work in the 
radiation-stricken areas is evidence of that. 




On 2011/09/17, at 23:47, Jason R Eaton wrote:

 Greetings, all:
 
 Actually, the term is Effective Microorganisms.  The company in the United 
 States that is now distributing this quite amazing product is Teraganix:
 
 http://www.teraganix.com/Effective-Microorganisms-History-and-Availability-s/194.htm
 
 Dr. Higa's book, An Earth Saving Revolution is a very, very fascinating 
 read.
 
 Dr. Higa's microbial forumation uses sevearl more common organisms to support 
 the sustained existance of phototropic organisms, amazing little critters 
 that cannot exist in an oxygen-rich environment, but are extraordinarily 
 efficient at processing-- what to us-- is toxic waste material, and producing 
 waste-- that to our environment-- is life sustaining.
 
 One of the most enjoyable experiments I've done is proving that these 
 organisms actually do exist in the retail product.  When cultivated properly, 
 they are the most amazing purple colored organisms.
 
 Best Regards,
 
 Jason
 
 - Original Message - From: anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 06:47
 Subject: Re: CSBioremediation at Fukushima
 
 
 I think its Essential Microorganisms. Someone please correct if wrong.
 Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld
 
 -Original Message-
 From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net
 Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 07:40:21
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: RE: CSBioremediation at Fukushima
 
 What does EM mean?
 Thanks.
 PT
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp]
 Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 11:23 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSBioremediation at Fukushima
 
 Some members, particularly Brooks Bradley, are familiar with the Essential
 Microorganisms  (EM) of Terao Higa, PhD.  The proprietor of a local EM shop
 told me today that volunteers in Fukushima area are experimenting with EM on
 contaminated crops.  He said blueberries went from 20,000 becquerels down to
 5,000, a 75% drop.  I don't know the details.
 
 He also said people volunteering in that area are suffering from throat
 problems, which I took to be due to radiation, but am not sure.  If I get
 more details I'll pass them along.Incidentally, these volunteers consume
 EM themselves.
 
 Incidentally, most of the news in the corporate press regarding this
 disaster is, to put it mildly, inadequate.  There have been at least three
 melt-downs and apparently a total melt-through in at least in one instance;
 some experts fear that radiation is actually moving down through the earth
 toward groundwater.   Given the sugar-coating in the mainstream news to
 date, this is certainly possible.   Japanese people are deeply skeptical of
 government reports, and I think some major changes are ahead for Japan, but
 that's all off-topic.
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSEMs

2011-09-17 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
Making compost is from household food waste is very easy.  I've done it.  It 
works very well.   Some folks consume EM for personal health, too, but the only 
approved/recommended  animal use is for cows, pigs, and chickens.   As a 
household cleaner, EM is amazing, and works well for laundry and clothing.  In 
Japan, some dry-cleaning establishments advertise their use of EM.  





On 2011/09/18, at 0:26, PTFerrance wrote:

 Has anyone on the list used these Effective Microorganisms to good effect?
 Thanks.
 PT
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jason R Eaton [mailto:ja...@eytonsearth.org] 
 Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 10:48 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSBioremediation at Fukushima
 
 Greetings, all:
 
 Actually, the term is Effective Microorganisms.  The company in the United 
 States that is now distributing this quite amazing product is Teraganix:
 
 http://www.teraganix.com/Effective-Microorganisms-History-and-Availability-s/194.htm
 
 Dr. Higa's book, An Earth Saving Revolution is a very, very fascinating 
 read.
 
 Dr. Higa's microbial forumation uses sevearl more common organisms to 
 support the sustained existance of phototropic organisms, amazing little 
 critters that cannot exist in an oxygen-rich environment, but are 
 extraordinarily efficient at processing-- what to us-- is toxic waste 
 material, and producing waste-- that to our environment-- is life 
 sustaining.
 
 One of the most enjoyable experiments I've done is proving that these 
 organisms actually do exist in the retail product.  When cultivated 
 properly, they are the most amazing purple colored organisms.
 
 Best Regards,
 
 Jason
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 06:47
 Subject: Re: CSBioremediation at Fukushima
 
 
 I think its Essential Microorganisms. Someone please correct if wrong.
 Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld
 
 -Original Message-
 From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net
 Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 07:40:21
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: RE: CSBioremediation at Fukushima
 
 What does EM mean?
 Thanks.
 PT
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp]
 Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 11:23 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSBioremediation at Fukushima
 
 Some members, particularly Brooks Bradley, are familiar with the Essential
 Microorganisms  (EM) of Terao Higa, PhD.  The proprietor of a local EM 
 shop
 told me today that volunteers in Fukushima area are experimenting with EM 
 on
 contaminated crops.  He said blueberries went from 20,000 becquerels down 
 to
 5,000, a 75% drop.  I don't know the details.
 
 He also said people volunteering in that area are suffering from throat
 problems, which I took to be due to radiation, but am not sure.  If I get
 more details I'll pass them along.Incidentally, these volunteers 
 consume
 EM themselves.
 
 Incidentally, most of the news in the corporate press regarding this
 disaster is, to put it mildly, inadequate.  There have been at least three
 melt-downs and apparently a total melt-through in at least in one 
 instance;
 some experts fear that radiation is actually moving down through the earth
 toward groundwater.   Given the sugar-coating in the mainstream news to
 date, this is certainly possible.   Japanese people are deeply skeptical 
 of
 government reports, and I think some major changes are ahead for Japan, 
 but
 that's all off-topic.
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSBioremediation at Fukushima

2011-09-17 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
The stuff is sold in one-liter bottles that the consumer can use to make about 
20 liters more, using only water and molasses.   A man named Vinny Pinto has 
useful English information about EM. 




On 2011/09/18, at 2:35, PTFerrance wrote:

 Sorry, I just figured it out... but still don't understand how you can have
 an Essential Microorganism shop?
 Thanks.
 PT
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp] 
 Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 11:23 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSBioremediation at Fukushima
 
 Some members, particularly Brooks Bradley, are familiar with the Essential
 Microorganisms  (EM) of Terao Higa, PhD.  The proprietor of a local EM shop
 told me today that volunteers in Fukushima area are experimenting with EM on
 contaminated crops.  He said blueberries went from 20,000 becquerels down to
 5,000, a 75% drop.  I don't know the details.  
 
 He also said people volunteering in that area are suffering from throat
 problems, which I took to be due to radiation, but am not sure.  If I get
 more details I'll pass them along.Incidentally, these volunteers consume
 EM themselves.   
 
 Incidentally, most of the news in the corporate press regarding this
 disaster is, to put it mildly, inadequate.  There have been at least three
 melt-downs and apparently a total melt-through in at least in one instance;
 some experts fear that radiation is actually moving down through the earth
 toward groundwater.   Given the sugar-coating in the mainstream news to
 date, this is certainly possible.   Japanese people are deeply skeptical of
 government reports, and I think some major changes are ahead for Japan, but
 that's all off-topic.  
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSBioremediation at Fukushima

2011-09-17 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
Apologies:  Jason got it right:  Effective it is.   Here's the link: 

http://www.amazon.com/Earth-Saving-Revolution-Effective-Microorganisms/dp/B000UKUCLM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1316298904sr=8-1

The translation is superb. 

Here's a link to SCD:  

http://www.scdprobiotics.com/

I have not purchased anything from them but had a good impression when they 
started out.   Still do: 

http://www.scdprobiotics.com/About_the_Founder_s/22.htm

If SCD has English information about the Fukushima work, that would be the best 
source.  I haven't checked.  





On 2011/09/18, at 7:25, Jonathan B. Britten wrote:

 The name that Terao Higa coined is Essential Microorganisms.  The company 
 that marketed the original formula in the USA is called Sustainable Community 
 Development Probiotics.   The founder trained with Higa.   Other companies 
 have copied Higa's work.   So far as I know, none of them have the same 
 vision.   
 
 Higa's book really is amazing and is essential reading.   He really believes 
 that EM is an earth-saving revolution.  His volunteer work in the 
 radiation-stricken areas is evidence of that. 
 
 
 
 
 On 2011/09/17, at 23:47, Jason R Eaton wrote:
 
 Greetings, all:
 
 Actually, the term is Effective Microorganisms.  The company in the United 
 States that is now distributing this quite amazing product is Teraganix:
 
 http://www.teraganix.com/Effective-Microorganisms-History-and-Availability-s/194.htm
 
 Dr. Higa's book, An Earth Saving Revolution is a very, very fascinating 
 read.
 
 Dr. Higa's microbial forumation uses sevearl more common organisms to 
 support the sustained existance of phototropic organisms, amazing little 
 critters that cannot exist in an oxygen-rich environment, but are 
 extraordinarily efficient at processing-- what to us-- is toxic waste 
 material, and producing waste-- that to our environment-- is life sustaining.
 
 One of the most enjoyable experiments I've done is proving that these 
 organisms actually do exist in the retail product.  When cultivated 
 properly, they are the most amazing purple colored organisms.
 
 Best Regards,
 
 Jason
 
 - Original Message - From: anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 06:47
 Subject: Re: CSBioremediation at Fukushima
 
 
 I think its Essential Microorganisms. Someone please correct if wrong.
 Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld
 
 -Original Message-
 From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net
 Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 07:40:21
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: RE: CSBioremediation at Fukushima
 
 What does EM mean?
 Thanks.
 PT
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp]
 Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 11:23 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSBioremediation at Fukushima
 
 Some members, particularly Brooks Bradley, are familiar with the Essential
 Microorganisms  (EM) of Terao Higa, PhD.  The proprietor of a local EM shop
 told me today that volunteers in Fukushima area are experimenting with EM on
 contaminated crops.  He said blueberries went from 20,000 becquerels down to
 5,000, a 75% drop.  I don't know the details.
 
 He also said people volunteering in that area are suffering from throat
 problems, which I took to be due to radiation, but am not sure.  If I get
 more details I'll pass them along.Incidentally, these volunteers consume
 EM themselves.
 
 Incidentally, most of the news in the corporate press regarding this
 disaster is, to put it mildly, inadequate.  There have been at least three
 melt-downs and apparently a total melt-through in at least in one instance;
 some experts fear that radiation is actually moving down through the earth
 toward groundwater.   Given the sugar-coating in the mainstream news to
 date, this is certainly possible.   Japanese people are deeply skeptical of
 government reports, and I think some major changes are ahead for Japan, but
 that's all off-topic.
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSorthontics

2011-09-17 Thread Guyot Léna
For plantar fasciitis, i found a simple band around the midfoot  
(bought at Walmart) helped keep the fascia flexed so they wouldnt  
stiffen and hurt. For tendonitis, i found a rubber wrap that winds  
around the midfoot and heel to do the same thing for the achilles  
tendon. It's buried in the rig at the moment. If i can dig it out I'll  
let you know the name of the company that makes it. Léna

On Sep 17, 2011, at 6:16 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

Hi all, for all you folk that posted about plantar fascillitus/ 
tendonitis using orthontics; can you tell me which type you used as  
there seems to be quite a range of products available.  Many thanks.   
dee


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Re: CSBioremediation at Fukushima

2011-09-17 Thread Jason R Eaton

Hi Jonathan:

Just so you know, scdprobiotics.com is NOT affiliated with EMRO Japan.

The only authorized distributors for EM products are listed on their global 
parters project:


http://www.emrojapan.com:9000/examples/global-cases/north-and-south-america/unitedstatesofamerica.html

The primary distributor of retail products is Tera Ganix, Inc.

The products marketed by Sustainable Community Development Probiotics may 
be closely related to EM, based on Matthew Wood's original work with Dr. 
Higa, but they are not the same.


If you look closely at their website, they can only market products that are 
...A functionally similar product to EM Farming and EM-1.


I'm sure that they probably carry good products that are effective, but if 
people want the original Dr. Higa organisms, one must purchase from Tera 
Ganix, Inc., or one of THEIR smaller distributors.


Besides, it's much cheaper.

The only authorized manufacturing plant in the United States is in Tucson, 
Arizona.  The plant is official run by EMRO USA Effective Microorganisms. 
Terag Ganix, Inc. was set up to be the retail and wholesale distributor for 
North America.


http://www.emrousa.com/about.html

So for those who want to support Dr. Higa's direct vision, you'll save money 
by purchasing from Tera Ganix, plus you'll be supporting Dr. Higa's global 
organization.


You'll notice that on the website:

:EMRO USA is a wholly-owned subsidiary of EM Research Organization (EMRO) of 
Okinawa, Japan. EMRO holds the universal or global rights, trademarks and 
patents or patents pending on the technology of EM, Effective 
Microorganisms, the EM logo, and its broad range of EM products and their 
manufacturing know-how or processing licenses throughout the world.


If you hadn't noticed, I'm a big fan.  :o)

I have all of Higa's English translations, and have worked through Vinny's 
book on EM's.


I hope you'll keep us up to date on any further information you get on EM's 
and the restoration of radiation contaminated soils there in Japan!


Kind Regards,

Jason



From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 15:40
Subject: Re: CSBioremediation at Fukushima


Apologies:  Jason got it right:  Effective it is.   Here's the link:

http://www.amazon.com/Earth-Saving-Revolution-Effective-Microorganisms/dp/B000UKUCLM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1316298904sr=8-1

The translation is superb.

Here's a link to SCD:

http://www.scdprobiotics.com/

I have not purchased anything from them but had a good impression when they 
started out.   Still do:


http://www.scdprobiotics.com/About_the_Founder_s/22.htm

If SCD has English information about the Fukushima work, that would be the 
best source.  I haven't checked.






On 2011/09/18, at 7:25, Jonathan B. Britten wrote:

The name that Terao Higa coined is Essential Microorganisms.  The company 
that marketed the original formula in the USA is called Sustainable 
Community Development Probiotics.   The founder trained with Higa.   Other 
companies have copied Higa's work.   So far as I know, none of them have 
the same vision.


Higa's book really is amazing and is essential reading.   He really 
believes that EM is an earth-saving revolution.  His volunteer work in the 
radiation-stricken areas is evidence of that.





On 2011/09/17, at 23:47, Jason R Eaton wrote:


Greetings, all:

Actually, the term is Effective Microorganisms.  The company in the 
United States that is now distributing this quite amazing product is 
Teraganix:


http://www.teraganix.com/Effective-Microorganisms-History-and-Availability-s/194.htm

Dr. Higa's book, An Earth Saving Revolution is a very, very fascinating 
read.


Dr. Higa's microbial forumation uses sevearl more common organisms to 
support the sustained existance of phototropic organisms, amazing little 
critters that cannot exist in an oxygen-rich environment, but are 
extraordinarily efficient at processing-- what to us-- is toxic waste 
material, and producing waste-- that to our environment-- is life 
sustaining.


One of the most enjoyable experiments I've done is proving that these 
organisms actually do exist in the retail product.  When cultivated 
properly, they are the most amazing purple colored organisms.


Best Regards,

Jason

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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 06:47
Subject: Re: CSBioremediation at Fukushima



I think its Essential Microorganisms. Someone please correct if wrong.
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld

-Original Message-
From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 07:40:21
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSBioremediation at Fukushima

What does EM mean?
Thanks.
PT

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Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 11:23 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Re: CSOT - lymphatics

2011-09-17 Thread Guyot Léna
Not to be cynical about the deplorable state of our national  
infrastructure, but when I'm on the road, I don't worry about leaving  
my WBV or rebounder home; the rough ride moves the lymph quite nicely.

Be well,
Léna
On Sep 17, 2011, at 7:36 AM, Sara Mandal-Joy wrote:

a rebounder is great in that situation.  For actual exercise, jumping,  
lifting feet off the rebounder kind of movement you need an expensive  
rebounder, not the cheapie kinds, or you can damage your feet and  
knees.  But, for moving lymphatics all you need to do is sit on the  
rebounder and let your body move enough for a gentle rocking.  It is  
effective for moving lymph.  An even better alternative is getting one  
of the bigger outdoor trampolines, and sit on it while a friend jumps.  
Sara


On 9/16/2011 10:09 PM, PTFerrance wrote:


I know the best way to move lymphatics is to exercise but for  
someone who cannot do that very well does anyone have any  
alternative suggestions.  I know someone in this situation and would  
like to be able to offer some suggestions.


Thanks.

PT




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Re: CSOT - lymphatics

2011-09-17 Thread Smitty
I know someone with lymphedema.
Would a rebounder help  ?
Smitty

On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Guyot Léna drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote:

 Not to be cynical about the deplorable state of our national
 infrastructure, but when I'm on the road, I don't worry about leaving my WBV
 or rebounder home; the rough ride moves the lymph quite nicely.
 Be well,
 Léna
 On Sep 17, 2011, at 7:36 AM, Sara Mandal-Joy wrote:

 a rebounder is great in that situation.  For actual exercise, jumping,
 lifting feet off the rebounder kind of movement you need an expensive
 rebounder, not the cheapie kinds, or you can damage your feet and knees.
  But, for moving lymphatics all you need to do is sit on the rebounder and
 let your body move enough for a gentle rocking.  It is effective for moving
 lymph.  An even better alternative is getting one of the bigger outdoor
 trampolines, and sit on it while a friend jumps. Sara

 On 9/16/2011 10:09 PM, PTFerrance wrote:


 I know the best way to move lymphatics is to exercise but for someone who
 cannot do that very well does anyone have any alternative suggestions.  I
 know someone in this situation and would like to be able to offer some
 suggestions.


 Thanks.


 PT




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Re: CSDesulfurizing

2011-09-17 Thread anthony . aquifer
This sounds intriguing Mike. I can't wait to see the plans. Hopefully someone 
that is not too knowledgeable in chemistry or electrical engineering will be 
able to follow them and build their own.  
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From: Mike Monett armor@gishpuppy.com
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 17:27:34 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSDesulfurizing

  PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

   Mike wrote,I  have  had  all  these,  and  a  low  silver ion
   concentration had  little or no effect. But as soon as I  was able
   to learn  how  to  dramatically  increase  the  concentration, the
   healing was immediate.

   So you are basing all this on your experience alone? Every body is
   different. What works for you might not work for someone  else and
   can cause  problems for someone else. People on *this*  forum have
   been using  CS for years with good effect and now you  are telling
   them it  is  not  working? It is illogical of  you  to  deny their
   experience.

  PT

  PT, I in no way ever said or implied that people have  not benefited
  greatly from  the  silver  ions in colloidal  silver.  This  fact is
  undeniable, and it is why cs is so popular among knowledgable people
  to help prevent many types of illnesses.

  The history  of  colloidal silver reaches back to  the  early Apollo
  days, when  NASA  used simple silver  electrolysis  to  help prevent
  pathogens from  growing in the astronauts drinking water on  the way
  to the  moon. They even restricted the ion content to less  than 100
  parts per billion to try to prevent Argyria.

  The Russians  also  used  cs in the  MIR  satellite,  which  was the
  longest orbital satellite under continuous habitation.  The Russians
  were not  so concerned with Argyria as they were  with  results, and
  they used a considerablly higher ion concentration.

  Out of these adventures, someone connected three 9 volt batteries in
  series, and  applied  27  volts  to  silver  electrodes  immersed in
  distilled water. The 3 nines was born.

  There are records of people taking cs continually since the 1980's.

  Virtually everyone  who takes it regularly states they  can remember
  what a cold or flu feels like, but they can't remember the last time
  they had one, as it was so long ago.

  So there is absolutely no question of the benefit of silver  ions in
  combating pathogens.

  However, viruses, which are not affected by antibiotics, continually
  evolve to evade the body's defenses and often grow stronger.

  There are  cases  when the standard ion concentration  fails,  but a
  higher silver  ion concentration miraculously solves the  problem. I
  anticipate more  people  will  find   they  have  an  infection that
  conventional cs does not overcome.

  For example, please see my post to Sol on 19 Oct 2004:

  http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg76134.html

  Please note  that  three  individuals  experienced  problems  with a
  particularly virulent  Herpes  Simplex  virus  that  simply  did not
  respond to a conventional silver ion concentration.

  However, by  increasing the ion concentration, and  using sublingual
  absorption instead  of  ingesting  the  cs,  the  virus  was quickly
  vanquished.

  Note that Sol also found that a stronger cs worked better for her as
  well.

  It is these cases I address with the SilverCell process.

  In these  cases,  I present a new breakthrough  in  colloidal silver
  that increases  the  ion  concentration  about  ten  times  over the
  original 3 nines.

  There is  a   natural   built-in   limitation  with  conventional cs
  generators that  makes it very difficult to get much  above  16uS or
  18uS. But  the  SilverCell process can easily  reach  44uS.  This is
  enough to  vastly  overwhelm   virulent  pathogens,  with  plenty of
  reserve to address the survivors.

  In addition  to the significantly improved results  with  the higher
  ion concentration,  it also means you can use  sublingual absorption
  instead of ingesting the cs.

  This completely eliminates any concern of Argyria, since  you absorb
  only a very small amount, and expel the rest. The  ion concentration
  absorbed results  in  less than 20 parts per  billion  in  the blood
  stream for a normal male with a blood content of 5.5 litres.

  In addition, while you are holding the solution in your mouth for 12
  minutes, is is also killing the bacteria that cause gum  disease and
  dental cavities.  So  you  don't have to pay  for  dental  visits as
  often.

  In addition, the SilverCell generator is easy to make, easy  to use,
  and is less expensive than a 3 nines. So if you are a bit handy, you
  can make  yourself  a unit that outperforms any  other  cs generator
  anywere, for basically the cost of the silver.

  Most of  the  current generators suffer from  problems  with  the cs
  turning yellow.  A  

RE: CSClarification?

2011-09-17 Thread Neville Munn

Apologies to PT for butting in and wiping out and severly snipping most of the 
content here.
 
 PT, I in no way ever said or implied that people have not benefited
 greatly from the silver ions in colloidal silver. 
#In effect, you actually have, by intimating that ...current generators don't 
produce enough ions...?
 
 They even restricted the ion content to less than 100
 parts per billion to try to prevent Argyria.
#Does this imply Ag+ ions are responsible for smurfism?

The Russians
 were not so concerned with Argyria as they were with results, and
 they used a considerablly higher ion concentration.
#This either supports the previous sentence, or it negates it - which is it?  
Is there any information in the public domain on how many Ruskies developed 
argyria?

 Out of these adventures, someone connected three 9 volt batteries in
 series, and applied 27 volts to silver electrodes immersed in
 distilled water. The 3 nines was born.
#And one of those 'someones' was Robert C Beck.  And I don't agree with 
everything HE said either, consumption of garlic for one.  Praps that's why I'm 
brain dead g.

 Virtually everyone who takes it regularly states they can remember
 what a cold or flu feels like, but they can't remember the last time
 they had one,
#I can, last year, started to develop the wog twice, but stopped it within 48 
hours on both occasions.  I also don't believe this stuff will *prevent* a wog. 
 Although I have to say that's the first wog that tried to get me for several 
years, and I've been purposely exposing myself to those who DO have the wog for 
years. 
 
 For example, please see my post to Sol on 19 Oct 2004:
http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg76134.html
 
 However, by increasing the ion concentration, and using sublingual
 absorption instead of ingesting the cs, the virus was quickly
 vanquished. 
 It is these cases I address with the SilverCell process.
#I noticed Shingles was mentioned here.  I've treated Shingles in a family 
member with *freshly* produced EIS and I could count the number of blisters 
that actually broke the skin on the fingers of one hand.  The remainder of the 
blisters appeared to clear up from within, *before* they had a chance to break 
the skin.  I documented this and know it was the administration of EIS given 
*immediately* after production to maximise the intake of Ag+ ion content {my 
arrogance}.  But I think I have said all this before somewhere.

 In these cases, I present a new breakthrough in colloidal silver
 that increases the ion concentration about ten times over the
 original 3 nines.
#So, if we are to believe all that is reported about home generators producing 
60% - 95% ion content {which I have always considered BS, as that only applies 
*immediately* after cessation of the brewing process}what is the ion 
content with your setup?
And if it's more than 95%, how soon does it fall away after cessation of 
production - say a week later?

 There is a natural built-in limitation with conventional cs
 generators that makes it very difficult to get much above 16uS or
 18uS. But the SilverCell process can easily reach 44uS. This is
 enough to vastly overwhelm virulent pathogens, with plenty of
 reserve to address the survivors.
#And what is that uS reading after a week in storage?
  
 This completely eliminates any concern of Argyria, since you absorb
 only a very small amount, and expel the rest. The ion concentration
 absorbed results in less than 20 parts per billion in the blood
 stream for a normal male with a blood content of 5.5 litres.
#And I have to wonder what the result would be using any other generator, after 
compounds are formed as soon as EIS hits the blood stream?
Nobody has ever answered my age old question of how much Ag+ ion content is 
rendered ineffective once it hits the blood stream and acids or salts blah blah 
come in contact with it?
 
 In addition, the SilverCell generator is easy to make, easy to use,
 and is less expensive than a 3 nines. So if you are a bit handy, you
 can make yourself a unit that outperforms any other cs generator
 anywere, for basically the cost of the silver.
#And I believe my simple unit, copied from ideas wherever one wishes to look in 
the public domain, is equal to anything available out there {my arrogance 
again}.
 
 Most of the current generators suffer from problems with the cs
 turning yellow. 
#What's the problem with yellow?  That means nothing to me, as it should mean 
nothing to anyone else {my opinion}.  All it means is that product *MAY??* 
contain larger particles, or it *MAY??* indicate high density of silver in 
solution, or both.  And if *NOTHING* is observed laying on the bottom of that 
storage vessel after days/weeks or months, there's absolutely nothing wrong 
with it.  If particles are not large enough to be pulled out of solution by 
gravity, then those same particles will be well small enough to be bioavailable 
{my opinion}.
   
 But if a 

Re: CSOT - lymphatics

2011-09-17 Thread Guyot Léna
Isn't lymphedema where people must wear pressure sleeves? I think  
that's an extreme that goes beyond a rebounder. L

On Sep 17, 2011, at 8:08 PM, Smitty wrote:

I know someone with lymphedema.
Would a rebounder help  ?
Smitty

On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Guyot Léna drumr...@stny.rr.com  
wrote:
Not to be cynical about the deplorable state of our national  
infrastructure, but when I'm on the road, I don't worry about leaving  
my WBV or rebounder home; the rough ride moves the lymph quite nicely.

Be well,
Léna
On Sep 17, 2011, at 7:36 AM, Sara Mandal-Joy wrote:

a rebounder is great in that situation.  For actual exercise, jumping,  
lifting feet off the rebounder kind of movement you need an expensive  
rebounder, not the cheapie kinds, or you can damage your feet and  
knees.  But, for moving lymphatics all you need to do is sit on the  
rebounder and let your body move enough for a gentle rocking.  It is  
effective for moving lymph.  An even better alternative is getting one  
of the bigger outdoor trampolines, and sit on it while a friend jumps.  
Sara


On 9/16/2011 10:09 PM, PTFerrance wrote:


I know the best way to move lymphatics is to exercise but for  
someone who cannot do that very well does anyone have any  
alternative suggestions.  I know someone in this situation and would  
like to be able to offer some suggestions.


Thanks.

PT




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Re: CSOT - lymphatics

2011-09-17 Thread Sara Mandal-Joy
 It certainly would be worth a try.  As some have said, even if you 
can't actually jump in a way that you are lifting your feet off the mat, 
just bouncing lightly in place is very helpful. Its been very important 
for my health.  Sara


On 9/17/2011 7:08 PM, Smitty wrote:

I know someone with lymphedema.
Would a rebounder help  ?
Smitty




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Re: CSDesulfurizing

2011-09-17 Thread Mike Monett
anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net wrote:

  This sounds  intriguing  Mike.  I   can't  wait  to  see  the plans.
  Hopefully someone  that  is not too  knowledgeable  in  chemistry or
  electrical engineering  will be able to follow them and  build their
  own.

Hi Anthony,

Today I finally received the two packages I was waiting for from eBay. I
have the borosilicate beakers and alligator leads, and now I can start to
document the assembly instructions and take lots of pictures.

I have thought about the design a lot, and tried to find ways to simplify
it so single mom could either build it or get someone in the neighbourhood
to build it for her.

There are only three solder joints,  so pretty much any teenager with a
soldering iron will have no problems. The entire process can run without
any instruments at all. No Hanna or COM-100 is needed to achieve truly
remarkable performance. 

The process is self-monitoring in that it provides a clear indication of
the progress, so you can easily tell where you are in the brewing process
and 
when the single 9 volt battery is starting to get weak. 

I estimate a fresh battery should last for about 110 brews or 400 mL each,
and a typical dose is only 50mL. So each brew should last for about a week
for a single person. This means about 110 weeks, or over two years for the
battery life.

The process is very tolerant of inattention, so it does not run wild like a
3 nines if you re too busy to check on it all the time. About the only
thing that will happen is it will make a stronger brew, and perhaps drop a
small amount of silver on the bottom of the jar. This is easily cleaned by
wiping, or with a bit of food grade H2O2.

I added a new way to test the ion concentration of the resulting brew, so
it will be easy for beginners to tell if they have been successful. This
does not require a Hanna or COM-100, which can easily be fooled by
contamination. The test is dramatic and unambiguous. You can easily tell
you have made silver, and lots of it.

I anticipate the normal problems at the beginning, but I really have to say
this is the most tolerant cs generator I have ever designed. I'm sure any
problems will be quickly and easily resolved. 

For more information, please see my post on Design Considerations, at

http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg142465.html

And I hope to see you on the SilverCentral forum with good news of your
very own MiniCell!!

Thanks for the post and the kind words. I will have some very important
news very soon.

Best Wishes,

Mike Monett
SilverCell


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Re: CSBioremediation at Fukushima

2011-09-17 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
Jason, 

Thanks for all this invaluable information.   I did not know that Tara Ganix is 
an official distributor.  If I were buying in the USA,  I definitely would buy 
from them in order to support Dr. Higa's work.

I thought that SCD intended to carry official EM products -- and did at one 
time, I think --  but I guess the company has gone off in a new direction.  

I've found EM1 extension very easy to make, and found that if air is squeezed 
out of the PET bottle, it can be stored for years without going off.   

I have no experience with any competing products, but can recommend Dr. Higa's 
mixture. 

Best, 

JBB




On 2011/09/18, at 9:00, Jason R Eaton wrote:

 Hi Jonathan:
 
 Just so you know, scdprobiotics.com is NOT affiliated with EMRO Japan.
 
 The only authorized distributors for EM products are listed on their global 
 parters project:
 
 http://www.emrojapan.com:9000/examples/global-cases/north-and-south-america/unitedstatesofamerica.html
 
 The primary distributor of retail products is Tera Ganix, Inc.
 
 The products marketed by Sustainable Community Development Probiotics may 
 be closely related to EM, based on Matthew Wood's original work with Dr. 
 Higa, but they are not the same.
 
 If you look closely at their website, they can only market products that are 
 ...A functionally similar product to EM Farming and EM-1.
 
 I'm sure that they probably carry good products that are effective, but if 
 people want the original Dr. Higa organisms, one must purchase from Tera 
 Ganix, Inc., or one of THEIR smaller distributors.
 
 Besides, it's much cheaper.
 
 The only authorized manufacturing plant in the United States is in Tucson, 
 Arizona.  The plant is official run by EMRO USA Effective Microorganisms. 
 Terag Ganix, Inc. was set up to be the retail and wholesale distributor for 
 North America.
 
 http://www.emrousa.com/about.html
 
 So for those who want to support Dr. Higa's direct vision, you'll save money 
 by purchasing from Tera Ganix, plus you'll be supporting Dr. Higa's global 
 organization.
 
 You'll notice that on the website:
 
 :EMRO USA is a wholly-owned subsidiary of EM Research Organization (EMRO) of 
 Okinawa, Japan. EMRO holds the universal or global rights, trademarks and 
 patents or patents pending on the technology of EM, Effective Microorganisms, 
 the EM logo, and its broad range of EM products and their manufacturing 
 know-how or processing licenses throughout the world.
 
 If you hadn't noticed, I'm a big fan.  :o)
 
 I have all of Higa's English translations, and have worked through Vinny's 
 book on EM's.
 
 I hope you'll keep us up to date on any further information you get on EM's 
 and the restoration of radiation contaminated soils there in Japan!
 
 Kind Regards,
 
 Jason
 
 
 
 From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 15:40
 Subject: Re: CSBioremediation at Fukushima
 
 
 Apologies:  Jason got it right:  Effective it is.   Here's the link:
 
 http://www.amazon.com/Earth-Saving-Revolution-Effective-Microorganisms/dp/B000UKUCLM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1316298904sr=8-1
 
 The translation is superb.
 
 Here's a link to SCD:
 
 http://www.scdprobiotics.com/
 
 I have not purchased anything from them but had a good impression when they 
 started out.   Still do:
 
 http://www.scdprobiotics.com/About_the_Founder_s/22.htm
 
 If SCD has English information about the Fukushima work, that would be the 
 best source.  I haven't checked.
 
 
 
 
 
 On 2011/09/18, at 7:25, Jonathan B. Britten wrote:
 
 The name that Terao Higa coined is Essential Microorganisms.  The company 
 that marketed the original formula in the USA is called Sustainable 
 Community Development Probiotics.   The founder trained with Higa.   Other 
 companies have copied Higa's work.   So far as I know, none of them have the 
 same vision.
 
 Higa's book really is amazing and is essential reading.   He really believes 
 that EM is an earth-saving revolution.  His volunteer work in the 
 radiation-stricken areas is evidence of that.
 
 
 
 
 On 2011/09/17, at 23:47, Jason R Eaton wrote:
 
 Greetings, all:
 
 Actually, the term is Effective Microorganisms.  The company in the United 
 States that is now distributing this quite amazing product is Teraganix:
 
 http://www.teraganix.com/Effective-Microorganisms-History-and-Availability-s/194.htm
 
 Dr. Higa's book, An Earth Saving Revolution is a very, very fascinating 
 read.
 
 Dr. Higa's microbial forumation uses sevearl more common organisms to 
 support the sustained existance of phototropic organisms, amazing little 
 critters that cannot exist in an oxygen-rich environment, but are 
 extraordinarily efficient at processing-- what to us-- is toxic waste 
 material, and producing waste-- that to our environment-- is life 
 sustaining.
 
 One of the most enjoyable experiments I've done is proving that these 
 organisms actually do exist in the retail product.  

Re: [SPAM] Re: CSBioremediation at Fukushima

2011-09-17 Thread Jason R Eaton

Hi Jonathan:

You're very welcome.

Some years ago (2001 actually, according to the SCD website) there was some 
controversy or political problem (I'm not privy to the details), that caused 
a reorganization of Higa's work in the U.S.


That's a great tip about the PET bottles; what I usually do is transfer my 
activated EM brew into numerous very small bottles.  Your way sounds better!


Kind Regards,

Jason

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Subject: [SPAM] Re: CSBioremediation at Fukushima


Jason,

Thanks for all this invaluable information.   I did not know that Tara Ganix 
is an official distributor.  If I were buying in the USA,  I definitely 
would buy from them in order to support Dr. Higa's work.


I thought that SCD intended to carry official EM products -- and did at one 
time, I think --  but I guess the company has gone off in a new direction.


I've found EM1 extension very easy to make, and found that if air is 
squeezed out of the PET bottle, it can be stored for years without going 
off.


I have no experience with any competing products, but can recommend Dr. 
Higa's mixture.


Best,

JBB 



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Re: [SPAM] Re: CSBioremediation at Fukushima

2011-09-17 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
Cheers, Jason.  

Anyone who spreads the word about Dr. Higa's work is doing good in the world. 

The testimonials page on the website you linked correspond with my experiences. 
 

By the way, I checked the prices, and they're in line with the prices in Japan. 
   And when one realizes that a single liter of EM1 can make about twenty 
liters of extension, the tremendous value is obvious.

Take care, 

JBB





On 2011/09/18, at 10:53, Jason R Eaton wrote:

 Hi Jonathan:
 
 You're very welcome.
 
 Some years ago (2001 actually, according to the SCD website) there was some 
 controversy or political problem (I'm not privy to the details), that caused 
 a reorganization of Higa's work in the U.S.
 
 That's a great tip about the PET bottles; what I usually do is transfer my 
 activated EM brew into numerous very small bottles.  Your way sounds better!
 
 Kind Regards,
 
 Jason
 
 - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten 
 jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 18:35
 Subject: [SPAM] Re: CSBioremediation at Fukushima
 
 
 Jason,
 
 Thanks for all this invaluable information.   I did not know that Tara Ganix 
 is an official distributor.  If I were buying in the USA,  I definitely would 
 buy from them in order to support Dr. Higa's work.
 
 I thought that SCD intended to carry official EM products -- and did at one 
 time, I think --  but I guess the company has gone off in a new direction.
 
 I've found EM1 extension very easy to make, and found that if air is 
 squeezed out of the PET bottle, it can be stored for years without going 
 off.
 
 I have no experience with any competing products, but can recommend Dr. 
 Higa's mixture.
 
 Best,
 
 JBB 
 
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Re: CSBioremediation at Fukushima

2011-09-17 Thread Bob Banever

Thanks Jonathan.

Bob
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Bob,

Essential Microoranisms = EM.


On 2011/09/17, at 15:02, Bob Banever wrote:


Jonathan,

Forgive me, but what is EM.   Thanks.
- Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten 
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Subject: CSBioremediation at Fukushima


Some members, particularly Brooks Bradley, are familiar with the Essential 
Microorganisms  (EM) of Terao Higa, PhD.  The proprietor of a local EM 
shop told me today that volunteers in Fukushima area are experimenting 
with EM on contaminated crops.  He said blueberries went from 20,000 
becquerels down to 5,000, a 75% drop.  I don't know the details.


He also said people volunteering in that area are suffering from throat 
problems, which I took to be due to radiation, but am not sure.  If I get 
more details I'll pass them along.Incidentally, these volunteers 
consume EM themselves.


Incidentally, most of the news in the corporate press regarding this 
disaster is, to put it mildly, inadequate.  There have been at least three 
melt-downs and apparently a total melt-through in at least in one 
instance; some experts fear that radiation is actually moving down through 
the earth toward groundwater.   Given the sugar-coating in the 
mainstream news to date, this is certainly possible.   Japanese people 
are deeply skeptical of government reports, and I think some major changes 
are ahead for Japan, but that's all off-topic.





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