Re: CSsmart meter shielding

2011-10-19 Thread Mike Winslow-Hansen

that is funny, i like that...

but they might charge you everytime they have to come out


- Original Message - 
From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: CSsmart meter shielding


You know, a legal tactic to resist smart meters, would be to organize
an everyone block it out with aluminum foil (or whatever actually
works) day.  Yes, they will be able to tell you blocked it out.  But
hey, it is on your property.  And if everyone who does not like smart
meters does it, PGE will be screwed having to come out and remove the
foil/whatever to so many houses.  Heck, it could be done everyday.

David

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:41 PM, ted mozell tdba...@gmail.com wrote:

Heck wait till the neighbors see me out there wrapping the damn thing with
aluminum foil . I should probably put some on my head while I'm at it that
will give em something to talk about

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:58 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
wrote:


Maybe if a type of shielding could be devised that does not block its
operation 24 hours a day. Maybe for a minute or 2 here and there it
would work. They might think the meter is broken instead of
suspecting the resident.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net
wrote:
 Shirley,

 I have one too. If you live in California you can protest to the
 DPUC on their website. If they recieve enough complaints they will ban
 the
 things. I complained yesterday. They say aluminum foil (double or
 triple
 thickness) will block the energy. Put sheets on the wall behind the
 meter
 between you and the meter. You can wrap the outside of the meter as
 well...
 just keep the front uncovered so Edison can read it. If they cannot
 they
 might send someone to your house. From what I understand all of the
 meters
 around you communicate with each other.

 Bob

 - Original Message -
 From: Shirley Reed
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:59 AM
 Subject: CSsmart meter shielding
 Anyone know if tachyon items can shield from this thing?? If the
 energy
 from these meters travels for 5 miles, then we would need to shield 
 from

 everyone's meters and that doesn't seem possible. But it is quite
 possible
 that I don't understand the situation. :) If the energy goes out from
 everyones meter, does it go just in one direction or all around? Seems
 to
 me that we need to know this before any strategy can be devised for
 protection. My house has one of these things. Scary. pj



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Re: CSsmart meter shielding

2011-10-19 Thread David AuBuchon
They can't come out to all of your houses...so maybe collect a fund
and pool the risk, and pay the fees of everyone from that fund.  Or
just everyone can refuse to pay.  If Americans would just act in
unison, there isn't really anything in this country we would have to
put up with.  That's the big IF though.  It requires above zombie
brain status.

David

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 2:47 AM, Mike Winslow-Hansen th...@telus.net wrote:
 that is funny, i like that...

 but they might charge you everytime they have to come out


 - Original Message - From: David AuBuchon
 aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:55 PM
 Subject: Re: CSsmart meter shielding


 You know, a legal tactic to resist smart meters, would be to organize
 an everyone block it out with aluminum foil (or whatever actually
 works) day.  Yes, they will be able to tell you blocked it out.  But
 hey, it is on your property.  And if everyone who does not like smart
 meters does it, PGE will be screwed having to come out and remove the
 foil/whatever to so many houses.  Heck, it could be done everyday.

 David

 On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:41 PM, ted mozell tdba...@gmail.com wrote:

 Heck wait till the neighbors see me out there wrapping the damn thing with
 aluminum foil . I should probably put some on my head while I'm at it that
 will give em something to talk about

 On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:58 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Maybe if a type of shielding could be devised that does not block its
 operation 24 hours a day. Maybe for a minute or 2 here and there it
 would work. They might think the meter is broken instead of
 suspecting the resident.

 On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net
 wrote:
  Shirley,
 
  I have one too. If you live in California you can protest to the
  DPUC on their website. If they recieve enough complaints they will ban
  the
  things. I complained yesterday. They say aluminum foil (double or
  triple
  thickness) will block the energy. Put sheets on the wall behind the
  meter
  between you and the meter. You can wrap the outside of the meter as
  well...
  just keep the front uncovered so Edison can read it. If they cannot
  they
  might send someone to your house. From what I understand all of the
  meters
  around you communicate with each other.
 
  Bob
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Shirley Reed
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:59 AM
  Subject: CSsmart meter shielding
  Anyone know if tachyon items can shield from this thing?? If the
  energy
  from these meters travels for 5 miles, then we would need to shield 
  from
  everyone's meters and that doesn't seem possible. But it is quite
  possible
  that I don't understand the situation. :) If the energy goes out from
  everyones meter, does it go just in one direction or all around? Seems
  to
  me that we need to know this before any strategy can be devised for
  protection. My house has one of these things. Scary. pj
 


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RE: CSOT - MMS

2011-10-19 Thread PTFerrance
I read that for people like yourself ½ drop might be necessary.  I would
think that only drinking part of the solution in water, like a mouthful to
start might be the way to proceed should you ever need to take it because
other things stopped working.

PT

 

From: tobdn...@aol.com [mailto:tobdn...@aol.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 11:49 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS

 

I was on one drop a day with the projectile vomiting, along with wonderful
diarrhea.  

 

It was too much for me and I won't take it again.  I tried 3 times and each
time was so ill.  It just isn't for me.

 

I have found that Low Dose Naltrexone has been a miracle for me, as has the
Iodine Protocol.  I will take both forever.  There is detox on the Iodine
Protocol, but it can be managed much better than that MMS, for me at least.


Glowing, 

Marygrace~



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Date:

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So how does one know, Renee?  Just stick to the 3 drop every 2 hour method?

Thanks. 

PT

 

From: gaiac...@gmail.com [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 5:37 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS

 


A person absolutely has to know how to use MMS, and for some people it is
never any good.  Humbel's continued insistence that it's perfectly safe for
everyone is WRONG.

 

Samala,

Renee 

 

 

 

 

---Original Message---

 

 

Additionally, I still have big circles under my eyes, that were not there
before.  I don't recommend it for anyone.  That is just me though.




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RE: CSOT - MMS

2011-10-19 Thread PTFerrance
What is the Iodine Protocol?

Thanks.

PT

 

From: tobdn...@aol.com [mailto:tobdn...@aol.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 11:49 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS

 

I was on one drop a day with the projectile vomiting, along with wonderful
diarrhea.  

 

It was too much for me and I won't take it again.  I tried 3 times and each
time was so ill.  It just isn't for me.

 

I have found that Low Dose Naltrexone has been a miracle for me, as has the
Iodine Protocol.  I will take both forever.  There is detox on the Iodine
Protocol, but it can be managed much better than that MMS, for me at least.


Glowing, 

Marygrace~



Original Message


Subj:



Date:

10/18/2011 5:14:05 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time


From:

ptf2...@bellsouth.net


To:

silver-list@eskimo.com


Sent on:

 

So how does one know, Renee?  Just stick to the 3 drop every 2 hour method?

Thanks. 

PT

 

From: gaiac...@gmail.com [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 5:37 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS

 


A person absolutely has to know how to use MMS, and for some people it is
never any good.  Humbel's continued insistence that it's perfectly safe for
everyone is WRONG.

 

Samala,

Renee 

 

 

 

 

---Original Message---

 

 

Additionally, I still have big circles under my eyes, that were not there
before.  I don't recommend it for anyone.  That is just me though.




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Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

2011-10-19 Thread Asif Nathekar
I have a lot of family in India and cannot source any myself, for their 
requirements.


For my next trip to India I will be taking a simple battery powered 
generator, taking my own silver and ordering in water for injections, as 
distilled isn't available, unless self distilled.


maybe a silver coin, 3 nine volt batteries and 'water for injections' from 
the chemist is going to be the best way to do this, if urgent, other than 
sending some by courier.




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Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 6:49 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India


There is a very high profile and very respected person in India who is
becoming septic, despite antibiotics and antifungals given by IV.
Where can I get colloidal silver in India to get to them ASAP?

Thanks,
David


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Re: CSsmart meter shielding

2011-10-19 Thread Asif Nathekar
that would be a decent compromise, as the meter would buffer the traffic and 
send when the next available opportunity presents itself


which of course would be when you uncover the shielding

perhaps the neighborhood could agree on a time to do this... e.g. 9pm-10pm 
every night


bear in mind that a LOT of traffic would be fed during that time 
intensively... rather than being drip fed throughout the day... there would 
be maximum transmission  during that time.. as it would be making up for 
lost time!...


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Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:58 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSsmart meter shielding


Maybe if a type of shielding could be devised that does not block its
operation 24 hours a day.  Maybe for a minute or 2 here and there it
would work.  They might think the meter is broken instead of
suspecting the resident.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net 
wrote:

Shirley,

   I have one too.  If you live in California you can protest to the
DPUC on their website.  If they recieve enough complaints they will ban 
the
things.  I complained yesterday.  They say aluminum foil (double or 
triple
thickness) will block the energy.  Put sheets on the wall behind the 
meter
between you and the meter.  You can wrap the outside of the meter as 
well...

just keep the front uncovered so Edison can read it.  If they cannot they
might send someone to your house.  From what I understand all of the 
meters

around you communicate with each other.

Bob

- Original Message -
From: Shirley Reed
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:59 AM
Subject: CSsmart meter shielding
Anyone know if tachyon items can shield from this thing??   If the energy
from these meters travels for 5 miles, then we would need to shield from
everyone's meters and that doesn't seem possible.  But it is quite 
possible

that I don't understand the situation.  :)  If the energy goes out from
everyones meter, does it go just in one direction or all around?  Seems 
to

me that we need to know this before any strategy can be devised for
protection.   My house has one of these things.  Scary.   pj




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Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

2011-10-19 Thread Asif Nathekar
I know water for injections is still undesirable however its as good as it 
gets where my family are, unless I buy a distiller to keep there 
(however electricity is a major problem in most of India, it is rationed and 
unavailable for most hours, and when its on, it is a poor quality feed.
for home distillation you would need to have it on for a good few hours at a 
time...if your local circuit can handle the electrical requirements of a 
steam distiller, and you can have electricity for that long!...


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From: Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:41 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

I have a lot of family in India and cannot source any myself, for their 
requirements.


For my next trip to India I will be taking a simple battery powered 
generator, taking my own silver and ordering in water for injections, as 
distilled isn't available, unless self distilled.


maybe a silver coin, 3 nine volt batteries and 'water for injections' from 
the chemist is going to be the best way to do this, if urgent, other than 
sending some by courier.




--
From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 6:49 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India


There is a very high profile and very respected person in India who is
becoming septic, despite antibiotics and antifungals given by IV.
Where can I get colloidal silver in India to get to them ASAP?

Thanks,
David


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Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

2011-10-19 Thread David AuBuchon
I was up late, and was able to find some people to contact.  Someone
purchased a CS generator and distilled water from someone, and is
getting on a plain, bringing it to the needed part of India.  The
guy's name is Rama.  His phone number is on some obscure yahoo answers
page.

There is also another website called space age or something like that.
 They sell a generator.  Though they recommended tap water  It is
still much better than nothing, even in sublingual absorption.  They
said the higher PPM has desirable.  Anyway, still definitely has its
uses in emergency.

There is also an online store called BIOVEA that has a link for Indian
customers on the bottom.  They have 2 oz bottles of source naturals
colloidal silver.  If they are in India, that is another option.

So that is what I learned about CS in India!

Now just to hope this generator works on our beloved patient.


Asif, do you know about quality of distilled water in India?  Maybe
the guy made it himself?  I am still trying to contact them and get
more details.

David


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Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

2011-10-19 Thread Asif Nathekar
I cant find ANY distilled water where I folks live... even water for 
injections will be available on a special order


There must obviously be some Distilled water available somewhere in India, 
but not where my folks are, so I cannot comment on the quality or otherwise 
of any available...


as for water for injections, it is usually put through a resin filter (to 
deionise, effectively), and then RO or Distilled... which is not as good as 
double distilledbut I cant complain, given the situation!...


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From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:16 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India


I was up late, and was able to find some people to contact.  Someone
purchased a CS generator and distilled water from someone, and is
getting on a plain, bringing it to the needed part of India.  The
guy's name is Rama.  His phone number is on some obscure yahoo answers
page.

There is also another website called space age or something like that.
They sell a generator.  Though they recommended tap water  It is
still much better than nothing, even in sublingual absorption.  They
said the higher PPM has desirable.  Anyway, still definitely has its
uses in emergency.

There is also an online store called BIOVEA that has a link for Indian
customers on the bottom.  They have 2 oz bottles of source naturals
colloidal silver.  If they are in India, that is another option.

So that is what I learned about CS in India!

Now just to hope this generator works on our beloved patient.


Asif, do you know about quality of distilled water in India?  Maybe
the guy made it himself?  I am still trying to contact them and get
more details.

David


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Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

2011-10-19 Thread David AuBuchon
We have doctors who I imagine can get water for injection if needed.
Yes, good enough!


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Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

2011-10-19 Thread Marshall
You might try rainwater.  Make sure it is caught in clean pots, not as 
runoff of a roof or something.  Only use that which comes down toward 
the end of a storm, especially if the air is polluted. Do not let any 
drops from a tree limb or anything else drop into it. Also do not use 
water from a storm if there is lightning.


Marshall

On 10/19/2011 11:31 AM, Asif Nathekar wrote:
I cant find ANY distilled water where I folks live... even water for 
injections will be available on a special order


There must obviously be some Distilled water available somewhere in 
India, but not where my folks are, so I cannot comment on the quality 
or otherwise of any available...


as for water for injections, it is usually put through a resin filter 
(to deionise, effectively), and then RO or Distilled... which is not 
as good as double distilledbut I cant complain, given the 
situation!...


--
From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:16 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India


I was up late, and was able to find some people to contact.  Someone
purchased a CS generator and distilled water from someone, and is
getting on a plain, bringing it to the needed part of India.  The
guy's name is Rama.  His phone number is on some obscure yahoo answers
page.

There is also another website called space age or something like that.
They sell a generator.  Though they recommended tap water  It is
still much better than nothing, even in sublingual absorption.  They
said the higher PPM has desirable.  Anyway, still definitely has its
uses in emergency.

There is also an online store called BIOVEA that has a link for Indian
customers on the bottom.  They have 2 oz bottles of source naturals
colloidal silver.  If they are in India, that is another option.

So that is what I learned about CS in India!

Now just to hope this generator works on our beloved patient.


Asif, do you know about quality of distilled water in India?  Maybe
the guy made it himself?  I am still trying to contact them and get
more details.

David


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Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

2011-10-19 Thread Marshall
Oh, yeah, one more thing.  If you do use rainwater, bring it to a boil 
first, then pour into a bottle which is capped and let cool.  Rainwater 
is saturated with carbon dioxide and boiling will drive it off. Other 
things absorbed can be driven off as well, such as HCl (hydrochloric 
acid), H2SO4 (sulfuric acid), and any VOCs.


Marshall

On 10/19/2011 11:47 AM, Marshall wrote:
You might try rainwater.  Make sure it is caught in clean pots, not as 
runoff of a roof or something.  Only use that which comes down toward 
the end of a storm, especially if the air is polluted. Do not let any 
drops from a tree limb or anything else drop into it. Also do not use 
water from a storm if there is lightning.


Marshall

On 10/19/2011 11:31 AM, Asif Nathekar wrote:
I cant find ANY distilled water where I folks live... even water for 
injections will be available on a special order


There must obviously be some Distilled water available somewhere in 
India, but not where my folks are, so I cannot comment on the quality 
or otherwise of any available...


as for water for injections, it is usually put through a resin filter 
(to deionise, effectively), and then RO or Distilled... which is not 
as good as double distilledbut I cant complain, given the 
situation!...


--
From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:16 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India


I was up late, and was able to find some people to contact.  Someone
purchased a CS generator and distilled water from someone, and is
getting on a plain, bringing it to the needed part of India.  The
guy's name is Rama.  His phone number is on some obscure yahoo answers
page.

There is also another website called space age or something like that.
They sell a generator.  Though they recommended tap water  It is
still much better than nothing, even in sublingual absorption.  They
said the higher PPM has desirable.  Anyway, still definitely has its
uses in emergency.

There is also an online store called BIOVEA that has a link for Indian
customers on the bottom.  They have 2 oz bottles of source naturals
colloidal silver.  If they are in India, that is another option.

So that is what I learned about CS in India!

Now just to hope this generator works on our beloved patient.


Asif, do you know about quality of distilled water in India?  Maybe
the guy made it himself?  I am still trying to contact them and get
more details.

David


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RE: CSOT - MMS

2011-10-19 Thread Scott Adams
Food poisoning can pass by itself in that length of time. 

MMS is indiscriminate. It will damage organs as readily as a pathogen.  It
like being in a room of kids and thugs and closing your eyes and shooting.
No idea at all what you will hit. 

Why take the risk? CS is far safer.

Scott Adams
www.lyme-resource.com
You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott
Adams 


 -Original Message-
 From: Bob Banever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:53 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS
 
 David and All,
 
MMS can be a life saver... it is certainly far safer 
 than any antibiotic and much more effective for a wider range 
 of pathogens.  Sure accidents can happen... and if someone is 
 getting sick on one or two drops of MMS then this is a HERX 
 reaction... something is wrong with the patient, not the 
 medicine.  I have used this for over three years for colds 
 and a case of food poisoning... in EVERY instance it has 
 shortened the duration of the illness to 3 days maximum, 
 usually 2, and my food poisoning was gone in less than 18 
 hours, truly amazing.
 
 Bob
 - Original Message -
 From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 2:41 PM
 Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS
 
 
  Three injuries I have heard personally, without even 
 looking for them:
 
  -A patient went blind in one eye after getting MMS in his eye
  -2 patients had collapsed veins after an IV MMS treatment using
  unactivated MMS (sodium chlorite)
 
  ~David
 
 
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RE: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

2011-10-19 Thread PTFerrance
Why no rainwater from a storm with lightening, Marshall?
Thanks. PT

-Original Message-
From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:47 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

You might try rainwater.  Make sure it is caught in clean pots, not as 
runoff of a roof or something.  Only use that which comes down toward 
the end of a storm, especially if the air is polluted. Do not let any 
drops from a tree limb or anything else drop into it. Also do not use 
water from a storm if there is lightning.

Marshall

On 10/19/2011 11:31 AM, Asif Nathekar wrote:
 I cant find ANY distilled water where I folks live... even water for 
 injections will be available on a special order

 There must obviously be some Distilled water available somewhere in 
 India, but not where my folks are, so I cannot comment on the quality 
 or otherwise of any available...

 as for water for injections, it is usually put through a resin filter 
 (to deionise, effectively), and then RO or Distilled... which is not 
 as good as double distilledbut I cant complain, given the 
 situation!...

 --
 From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:16 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

 I was up late, and was able to find some people to contact.  Someone
 purchased a CS generator and distilled water from someone, and is
 getting on a plain, bringing it to the needed part of India.  The
 guy's name is Rama.  His phone number is on some obscure yahoo answers
 page.

 There is also another website called space age or something like that.
 They sell a generator.  Though they recommended tap water  It is
 still much better than nothing, even in sublingual absorption.  They
 said the higher PPM has desirable.  Anyway, still definitely has its
 uses in emergency.

 There is also an online store called BIOVEA that has a link for Indian
 customers on the bottom.  They have 2 oz bottles of source naturals
 colloidal silver.  If they are in India, that is another option.

 So that is what I learned about CS in India!

 Now just to hope this generator works on our beloved patient.


 Asif, do you know about quality of distilled water in India?  Maybe
 the guy made it himself?  I am still trying to contact them and get
 more details.

 David


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Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

2011-10-19 Thread Marshall
Lightning, or any electrical discharge produces ozone, which is fine, 
and oxides of nitrogen, which is captured by the rain, making nitric and 
nitrous acids.  Although the amount is low enough to not cause problems 
normally (it provides nitrogen for plants, so is actually good), it will 
react with silver producing silver nitrate, which you definitely do not 
want to be producing.


Marshall

On 10/19/2011 1:23 PM, PTFerrance wrote:

Why no rainwater from a storm with lightening, Marshall?
Thanks. PT

-Original Message-
From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:47 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

You might try rainwater.  Make sure it is caught in clean pots, not as
runoff of a roof or something.  Only use that which comes down toward
the end of a storm, especially if the air is polluted. Do not let any
drops from a tree limb or anything else drop into it. Also do not use
water from a storm if there is lightning.

Marshall

On 10/19/2011 11:31 AM, Asif Nathekar wrote:

I cant find ANY distilled water where I folks live... even water for
injections will be available on a special order

There must obviously be some Distilled water available somewhere in
India, but not where my folks are, so I cannot comment on the quality
or otherwise of any available...

as for water for injections, it is usually put through a resin filter
(to deionise, effectively), and then RO or Distilled... which is not
as good as double distilledbut I cant complain, given the
situation!...

--
From: David AuBuchonaubuchon.da...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:16 PM
To:silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India


I was up late, and was able to find some people to contact.  Someone
purchased a CS generator and distilled water from someone, and is
getting on a plain, bringing it to the needed part of India.  The
guy's name is Rama.  His phone number is on some obscure yahoo answers
page.

There is also another website called space age or something like that.
They sell a generator.  Though they recommended tap water  It is
still much better than nothing, even in sublingual absorption.  They
said the higher PPM has desirable.  Anyway, still definitely has its
uses in emergency.

There is also an online store called BIOVEA that has a link for Indian
customers on the bottom.  They have 2 oz bottles of source naturals
colloidal silver.  If they are in India, that is another option.

So that is what I learned about CS in India!

Now just to hope this generator works on our beloved patient.


Asif, do you know about quality of distilled water in India?  Maybe
the guy made it himself?  I am still trying to contact them and get
more details.

David


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Re: CSOT - MMS

2011-10-19 Thread Grace1way
Yes, for food poisoning, I and others just drink a pint of colloidal silver 
 and eat a piece of burned toast (for activated carbon to soak up toxins).  
 The acute cases with which I have experience have disappeared in 20  
minutes!
 
Jill
 
 
In a message dated 10/19/2011 10:10:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
msad...@msadams.com writes:

Food  poisoning can pass by itself in that length of time. 

MMS is  indiscriminate. It will damage organs as readily as a pathogen.   It
like being in a room of kids and thugs and closing your eyes and  shooting.
No idea at all what you will hit. 

Why take the risk? CS  is far safer.

Scott Adams
www.lyme-resource.com
You can lead a  person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott
Adams  


 -Original Message-
 From: Bob Banever  [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:53  PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSOT -  MMS
 
 David and All,
 
   MMS can be a life saver... it is certainly far safer 
 than any  antibiotic and much more effective for a wider range 
 of  pathogens.  Sure accidents can happen... and if someone is 
  getting sick on one or two drops of MMS then this is a HERX 
  reaction... something is wrong with the patient, not the 
  medicine.  I have used this for over three years for colds 
 and a  case of food poisoning... in EVERY instance it has 
 shortened the  duration of the illness to 3 days maximum, 
 usually 2, and my food  poisoning was gone in less than 18 
 hours, truly amazing.
  
 Bob
 - Original Message -
 From: David  AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
 To:  silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 2:41  PM
 Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS
 
 
  Three  injuries I have heard personally, without even 
 looking for  them:
 
  -A patient went blind in one eye after getting  MMS in his eye
  -2 patients had collapsed veins after an IV MMS  treatment using
  unactivated MMS (sodium chlorite)
  
  ~David
 
 
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RE: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

2011-10-19 Thread PTFerrance
Thanks for the education.  I love your posts.
PT

-Original Message-
From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:45 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

Lightning, or any electrical discharge produces ozone, which is fine, 
and oxides of nitrogen, which is captured by the rain, making nitric and 
nitrous acids.  Although the amount is low enough to not cause problems 
normally (it provides nitrogen for plants, so is actually good), it will 
react with silver producing silver nitrate, which you definitely do not 
want to be producing.

Marshall

On 10/19/2011 1:23 PM, PTFerrance wrote:
 Why no rainwater from a storm with lightening, Marshall?
 Thanks. PT

 -Original Message-
 From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:47 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

 You might try rainwater.  Make sure it is caught in clean pots, not as
 runoff of a roof or something.  Only use that which comes down toward
 the end of a storm, especially if the air is polluted. Do not let any
 drops from a tree limb or anything else drop into it. Also do not use
 water from a storm if there is lightning.

 Marshall

 On 10/19/2011 11:31 AM, Asif Nathekar wrote:
 I cant find ANY distilled water where I folks live... even water for
 injections will be available on a special order

 There must obviously be some Distilled water available somewhere in
 India, but not where my folks are, so I cannot comment on the quality
 or otherwise of any available...

 as for water for injections, it is usually put through a resin filter
 (to deionise, effectively), and then RO or Distilled... which is not
 as good as double distilledbut I cant complain, given the
 situation!...

 --
 From: David AuBuchonaubuchon.da...@gmail.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:16 PM
 To:silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

 I was up late, and was able to find some people to contact.  Someone
 purchased a CS generator and distilled water from someone, and is
 getting on a plain, bringing it to the needed part of India.  The
 guy's name is Rama.  His phone number is on some obscure yahoo answers
 page.

 There is also another website called space age or something like that.
 They sell a generator.  Though they recommended tap water  It is
 still much better than nothing, even in sublingual absorption.  They
 said the higher PPM has desirable.  Anyway, still definitely has its
 uses in emergency.

 There is also an online store called BIOVEA that has a link for Indian
 customers on the bottom.  They have 2 oz bottles of source naturals
 colloidal silver.  If they are in India, that is another option.

 So that is what I learned about CS in India!

 Now just to hope this generator works on our beloved patient.


 Asif, do you know about quality of distilled water in India?  Maybe
 the guy made it himself?  I am still trying to contact them and get
 more details.

 David


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RE: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

2011-10-19 Thread PTFerrance
Have you considered a small solar generator to generate enough electricity
to help out with distilling and other things?  I don't know what would be
involved so this might be a unreasonable suggestion but the panels seem to
be coming down in price a lot.
PT

-Original Message-
From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:16 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

I was up late, and was able to find some people to contact.  Someone
purchased a CS generator and distilled water from someone, and is
getting on a plain, bringing it to the needed part of India.  The
guy's name is Rama.  His phone number is on some obscure yahoo answers
page.

There is also another website called space age or something like that.
 They sell a generator.  Though they recommended tap water  It is
still much better than nothing, even in sublingual absorption.  They
said the higher PPM has desirable.  Anyway, still definitely has its
uses in emergency.

There is also an online store called BIOVEA that has a link for Indian
customers on the bottom.  They have 2 oz bottles of source naturals
colloidal silver.  If they are in India, that is another option.

So that is what I learned about CS in India!

Now just to hope this generator works on our beloved patient.


Asif, do you know about quality of distilled water in India?  Maybe
the guy made it himself?  I am still trying to contact them and get
more details.

David


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Re: CSsmart meter shielding

2011-10-19 Thread phoenix23002 tds.net
Maybe that narrow time frame would be the perfect time to really wear
the tinfoil hats?  LOL

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Asif Nathekar
asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote:
 that would be a decent compromise, as the meter would buffer the traffic and
 send when the next available opportunity presents itself

 which of course would be when you uncover the shielding

 perhaps the neighborhood could agree on a time to do this... e.g. 9pm-10pm
 every night

 bear in mind that a LOT of traffic would be fed during that time
 intensively... rather than being drip fed throughout the day... there would
 be maximum transmission  during that time.. as it would be making up for
 lost time!...

 --
 From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:58 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSsmart meter shielding

 Maybe if a type of shielding could be devised that does not block its
 operation 24 hours a day.  Maybe for a minute or 2 here and there it
 would work.  They might think the meter is broken instead of
 suspecting the resident.

 On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net
 wrote:

 Shirley,

       I have one too.  If you live in California you can protest to the
 DPUC on their website.  If they recieve enough complaints they will ban
 the
 things.  I complained yesterday.  They say aluminum foil (double or
 triple
 thickness) will block the energy.  Put sheets on the wall behind the
 meter
 between you and the meter.  You can wrap the outside of the meter as
 well...
 just keep the front uncovered so Edison can read it.  If they cannot they
 might send someone to your house.  From what I understand all of the
 meters
 around you communicate with each other.

 Bob

 - Original Message -
 From: Shirley Reed
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:59 AM
 Subject: CSsmart meter shielding
 Anyone know if tachyon items can shield from this thing??   If the energy
 from these meters travels for 5 miles, then we would need to shield from
 everyone's meters and that doesn't seem possible.  But it is quite
 possible
 that I don't understand the situation.  :)  If the energy goes out from
 everyones meter, does it go just in one direction or all around?  Seems
 to
 me that we need to know this before any strategy can be devised for
 protection.   My house has one of these things.  Scary.   pj



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RE: CSOT - MMS

2011-10-19 Thread Scott Adams
BTW I have learned that burnt toast is NOT activated charcoal! Its created
in a totally different way.
 
http://www.buzzle.com/articles/how-to-make-activated-charcoal.html
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activated_carbon
 
Scott Adams
www.lyme-resource.com http://www.lyme-resource.com/ 
You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott
Adams 


  _  

From: grace1...@aol.com [mailto:grace1...@aol.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:03 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS



Yes, for food poisoning, I and others just drink a pint of colloidal silver
and eat a piece of burned toast (for activated carbon to soak up toxins).
The acute cases with which I have experience have disappeared in 20 minutes!
 
Jill
 
In a message dated 10/19/2011 10:10:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
msad...@msadams.com writes:

Food poisoning can pass by itself in that length of time. 

MMS is indiscriminate. It will damage organs as readily as a pathogen.  It
like being in a room of kids and thugs and closing your eyes and shooting.
No idea at all what you will hit. 

Why take the risk? CS is far safer.

Scott Adams
www.lyme-resource.com
You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott
Adams 


 -Original Message-
 From: Bob Banever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:53 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS
 
 David and All,
 
MMS can be a life saver... it is certainly far safer 
 than any antibiotic and much more effective for a wider range 
 of pathogens.  Sure accidents can happen... and if someone is 
 getting sick on one or two drops of MMS then this is a HERX 
 reaction... something is wrong with the patient, not the 
 medicine.  I have used this for over three years for colds 
 and a case of food poisoning... in EVERY instance it has 
 shortened the duration of the illness to 3 days maximum, 
 usually 2, and my food poisoning was gone in less than 18 
 hours, truly amazing.
 
 Bob
 - Original Message -
 From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 2:41 PM
 Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS
 
 
  Three injuries I have heard personally, without even 
 looking for them:
 
  -A patient went blind in one eye after getting MMS in his eye
  -2 patients had collapsed veins after an IV MMS treatment using
  unactivated MMS (sodium chlorite)
 
  ~David
 
 
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Re: CSsmart meter shielding

2011-10-19 Thread Mike Winslow-Hansen
I've heard from someone that said there is an option to people to have smart 
meters wired in using telephone wires...


has anyone heard of this?



- Original Message - 
From: phoenix23002 tds.net phoenix23...@tds.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: CSsmart meter shielding


Maybe that narrow time frame would be the perfect time to really wear
the tinfoil hats?  LOL

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Asif Nathekar
asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote:
that would be a decent compromise, as the meter would buffer the traffic 
and

send when the next available opportunity presents itself

which of course would be when you uncover the shielding

perhaps the neighborhood could agree on a time to do this... e.g. 9pm-10pm
every night

bear in mind that a LOT of traffic would be fed during that time
intensively... rather than being drip fed throughout the day... there 
would

be maximum transmission during that time.. as it would be making up for
lost time!...

--
From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:58 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSsmart meter shielding


Maybe if a type of shielding could be devised that does not block its
operation 24 hours a day. Maybe for a minute or 2 here and there it
would work. They might think the meter is broken instead of
suspecting the resident.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net
wrote:


Shirley,

I have one too. If you live in California you can protest to the
DPUC on their website. If they recieve enough complaints they will ban
the
things. I complained yesterday. They say aluminum foil (double or
triple
thickness) will block the energy. Put sheets on the wall behind the
meter
between you and the meter. You can wrap the outside of the meter as
well...
just keep the front uncovered so Edison can read it. If they cannot they
might send someone to your house. From what I understand all of the
meters
around you communicate with each other.

Bob

- Original Message -
From: Shirley Reed
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:59 AM
Subject: CSsmart meter shielding
Anyone know if tachyon items can shield from this thing?? If the energy
from these meters travels for 5 miles, then we would need to shield from
everyone's meters and that doesn't seem possible. But it is quite
possible
that I don't understand the situation. :) If the energy goes out from
everyones meter, does it go just in one direction or all around? Seems
to
me that we need to know this before any strategy can be devised for
protection. My house has one of these things. Scary. pj




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Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

2011-10-19 Thread Asif Nathekar
Solar panels will heat water effectively in india, as for generating 
electricity, I do not think it will be enough by itself unless supplemented by 
decent battery backup and inverter combination. 
Even then I do not believe such a system will be able to sustain that much 
current draw. 
As my uncle has such a setup and can just about run two energy saving bulbs and 
a fan for a few hours. So a small distiller such as mine that draws 750w would 
I feel become unsustainable for the amount of time that would be required. 



On 19 Oct 2011, at 20:01, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Have you considered a small solar generator to generate enough electricity
 to help out with distilling and other things?  I don't know what would be
 involved so this might be a unreasonable suggestion but the panels seem to
 be coming down in price a lot.
 PT
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:16 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India
 
 I was up late, and was able to find some people to contact.  Someone
 purchased a CS generator and distilled water from someone, and is
 getting on a plain, bringing it to the needed part of India.  The
 guy's name is Rama.  His phone number is on some obscure yahoo answers
 page.
 
 There is also another website called space age or something like that.
 They sell a generator.  Though they recommended tap water  It is
 still much better than nothing, even in sublingual absorption.  They
 said the higher PPM has desirable.  Anyway, still definitely has its
 uses in emergency.
 
 There is also an online store called BIOVEA that has a link for Indian
 customers on the bottom.  They have 2 oz bottles of source naturals
 colloidal silver.  If they are in India, that is another option.
 
 So that is what I learned about CS in India!
 
 Now just to hope this generator works on our beloved patient.
 
 
 Asif, do you know about quality of distilled water in India?  Maybe
 the guy made it himself?  I am still trying to contact them and get
 more details.
 
 David
 
 
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Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

2011-10-19 Thread David AuBuchon
So the hospital it turns out has plenty of distilled water, so that is not
an issue.  The generator is not that pretty, but it could get the job done:

http://alchemist.co/

The guy said run for 15 minutes, then clean electrodes, then repeat two more
times.  45 minutes total makes half a liter of 12 to 15 PPM CS he claims.

The patients feeding tube is moving again.  I suggested 1 fluid ounce every
30 to 60 minutes, adjusting for any possible changes due to herx reactions.
Yesterday, the feeding tube stopped moving for 4 or 5 hours.  If it stops
moving again and they cannot give the CS to him that way, I suggested a
fluid ounce every hour rectally.

Any comments?


RE: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

2011-10-19 Thread PTFerrance
You don't need electricity to distill water.  All you need is a distiller
pot and a fire.  That is how moonshine was made during prohibition.  You
might want to check it out.
PT

-Original Message-
From: Asif Nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:19 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

Solar panels will heat water effectively in india, as for generating
electricity, I do not think it will be enough by itself unless supplemented
by decent battery backup and inverter combination. 
Even then I do not believe such a system will be able to sustain that much
current draw. 
As my uncle has such a setup and can just about run two energy saving bulbs
and a fan for a few hours. So a small distiller such as mine that draws 750w
would I feel become unsustainable for the amount of time that would be
required. 



On 19 Oct 2011, at 20:01, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Have you considered a small solar generator to generate enough electricity
 to help out with distilling and other things?  I don't know what would be
 involved so this might be a unreasonable suggestion but the panels seem to
 be coming down in price a lot.
 PT
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:16 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India
 
 I was up late, and was able to find some people to contact.  Someone
 purchased a CS generator and distilled water from someone, and is
 getting on a plain, bringing it to the needed part of India.  The
 guy's name is Rama.  His phone number is on some obscure yahoo answers
 page.
 
 There is also another website called space age or something like that.
 They sell a generator.  Though they recommended tap water  It is
 still much better than nothing, even in sublingual absorption.  They
 said the higher PPM has desirable.  Anyway, still definitely has its
 uses in emergency.
 
 There is also an online store called BIOVEA that has a link for Indian
 customers on the bottom.  They have 2 oz bottles of source naturals
 colloidal silver.  If they are in India, that is another option.
 
 So that is what I learned about CS in India!
 
 Now just to hope this generator works on our beloved patient.
 
 
 Asif, do you know about quality of distilled water in India?  Maybe
 the guy made it himself?  I am still trying to contact them and get
 more details.
 
 David
 
 
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Re: CSOT - MMS

2011-10-19 Thread Dan Nave
How do you make activated charcoal out of ash, as is stated in the
referenced article?...
Doesn't seem possible.

Dan

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Scott Adams msad...@msadams.com wrote:
 BTW I have learned that burnt toast is NOT activated charcoal! Its created
 in a totally different way.

 http://www.buzzle.com/articles/how-to-make-activated-charcoal.html

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activated_carbon

 Scott Adams
 www.lyme-resource.com
 You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott
 Adams

 
 From: grace1...@aol.com [mailto:grace1...@aol.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:03 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS

 Yes, for food poisoning, I and others just drink a pint of colloidal silver
 and eat a piece of burned toast (for activated carbon to soak up toxins).
 The acute cases with which I have experience have disappeared in 20 minutes!

 Jill

 In a message dated 10/19/2011 10:10:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
 msad...@msadams.com writes:

 Food poisoning can pass by itself in that length of time.

 MMS is indiscriminate. It will damage organs as readily as a pathogen.  It
 like being in a room of kids and thugs and closing your eyes and shooting.
 No idea at all what you will hit.

 Why take the risk? CS is far safer.

 Scott Adams
 www.lyme-resource.com
 You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott
 Adams


 -Original Message-
 From: Bob Banever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:53 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS

 David and All,

        MMS can be a life saver... it is certainly far safer
 than any antibiotic and much more effective for a wider range
 of pathogens.  Sure accidents can happen... and if someone is
 getting sick on one or two drops of MMS then this is a HERX
 reaction... something is wrong with the patient, not the
 medicine.  I have used this for over three years for colds
 and a case of food poisoning... in EVERY instance it has
 shortened the duration of the illness to 3 days maximum,
 usually 2, and my food poisoning was gone in less than 18
 hours, truly amazing.

 Bob
 - Original Message -
 From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 2:41 PM
 Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS


  Three injuries I have heard personally, without even
 looking for them:
 
  -A patient went blind in one eye after getting MMS in his eye
  -2 patients had collapsed veins after an IV MMS treatment using
  unactivated MMS (sodium chlorite)
 
  ~David
 
 
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Re: CSOT - MMS

2011-10-19 Thread Grace1way
I don't know if the correct term is activated charcoal, or activated  
carbon.  I know that very burned toast (black) and activated  charcoal/carbon 
capsules will serve the same purpose.  I seem to remember  you can get the 
charcoal/carbon capsules at a health food store.  
 
Sorry, I'm not a scientist, or a chemist.  I just wanted to share an  
amazingly effective and simple way to get rid of food poisoning.  Whatever  the 
black stuff is called one uses in addition to the CS, I do remember that the  
purpose is to absorb the toxins the bacteria put out that make us sick.
 
Hope this helps.
 
Jill
 
 
In a message dated 10/19/2011 1:13:49 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
bhangcha...@gmail.com writes:

How do  you make activated charcoal out of ash, as is stated in the
referenced  article?...
Doesn't seem possible.

Dan

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011  at 2:15 PM, Scott Adams msad...@msadams.com wrote:
 BTW I have  learned that burnt toast is NOT activated charcoal! Its 
created
 in a  totally different way.

  http://www.buzzle.com/articles/how-to-make-activated-charcoal.html

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activated_carbon

 Scott  Adams
 www.lyme-resource.com
 You can lead a person to a fact,  but you can't make them think! - Scott
 Adams

  
 From: grace1...@aol.com  [mailto:grace1...@aol.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:03  PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSOT -  MMS

 Yes, for food poisoning, I and others just drink a pint of  colloidal 
silver
 and eat a piece of burned toast (for activated carbon  to soak up toxins).
 The acute cases with which I have experience have  disappeared in 20 
minutes!

 Jill

 In a message  dated 10/19/2011 10:10:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
  msad...@msadams.com writes:

 Food poisoning can pass by itself  in that length of time.

 MMS is indiscriminate. It will damage  organs as readily as a pathogen.  
It
 like being in a room of kids  and thugs and closing your eyes and 
shooting.
 No idea at all what you  will hit.

 Why take the risk? CS is far safer.

  Scott Adams
 www.lyme-resource.com
 You can lead a person to a  fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott
  Adams


 -Original Message-
 From:  Bob Banever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net]
 Sent: Tuesday, October  18, 2011 9:53 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject:  Re: CSOT - MMS

 David and  All,

MMS can be a life  saver... it is certainly far safer
 than any antibiotic and much  more effective for a wider range
 of pathogens.  Sure  accidents can happen... and if someone is
 getting sick on one or  two drops of MMS then this is a HERX
 reaction... something is  wrong with the patient, not the
 medicine.  I have used this  for over three years for colds
 and a case of food poisoning... in  EVERY instance it has
 shortened the duration of the illness to 3  days maximum,
 usually 2, and my food poisoning was gone in less  than 18
 hours, truly amazing.

  Bob
 - Original Message -
 From: David  AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
 To:  silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011  2:41 PM
 Subject: Re: CSOT -  MMS


  Three injuries I have heard  personally, without even
 looking for them:
  
  -A patient went blind in one eye after getting MMS in  his eye
  -2 patients had collapsed veins after an IV MMS  treatment using
  unactivated MMS (sodium chlorite)
  
  ~David
 
 
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RE: CSOT - MMS

2011-10-19 Thread gaiac...@gmail.com
I would stay away from it too.  I do not know what all your health issues
are, but if 1 drop does that, then it's pretty poisonous for you.

My Dad had leukemia and was also diabetic and he could take one drop, though
2 made him FEEL nauseous.  He didn't throw up or have diarrhea, but he didn
t like the feeling of being nauseous, naturally.  He was a big guy too--240
plus pounds, 6 foot 2 inches.  

I know Humble says that it's the die off, but if it affects you that bad
either you are extremely ill, or it's simply not for you.  I would think it
wasn't for you and would not push it.  There are other ways of using a more
dilute MMS, at only 5%, that can be very helpful around the house as a
cleaner and such, though, so that your bottle isn't wasted.

And--it makes a great descaler.   We have very hard water here and get
terrible lime build up on everything.  I mix up a big squirt of MMS and a
big squirt of white vinegar, let it sit about 10 minutes, and put that into
my dishwasher.  I run a cycle and boy, does that dishwasher come out
sparkling clean!  Lol  my  friend uses her MMS to descale her coffee pots.

Samala,
Renee 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
I was on one drop a day with the projectile vomiting, along with wonderful
diarrhea.  
 
It was too much for me and I won't take it again.  I tried 3 times and each
time was so ill.  It just isn't for me.
 happy.gif

Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

2011-10-19 Thread Asif Nathekar
I was thinking of what was required to heat the water to steam and also the 
cooling/ heat exchanger requirements.
In the case if india at the very minimum if a solar array was utilised to heat 
water to boiling point by thermal means and electrical requirement would just 
be for cooling only. It would be messy, but it would work



On 19 Oct 2011, at 20:52, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 You don't need electricity to distill water.  All you need is a distiller
 pot and a fire.  That is how moonshine was made during prohibition.  You
 might want to check it out.
 PT
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Asif Nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:19 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India
 
 Solar panels will heat water effectively in india, as for generating
 electricity, I do not think it will be enough by itself unless supplemented
 by decent battery backup and inverter combination. 
 Even then I do not believe such a system will be able to sustain that much
 current draw. 
 As my uncle has such a setup and can just about run two energy saving bulbs
 and a fan for a few hours. So a small distiller such as mine that draws 750w
 would I feel become unsustainable for the amount of time that would be
 required. 
 
 
 
 On 19 Oct 2011, at 20:01, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Have you considered a small solar generator to generate enough electricity
 to help out with distilling and other things?  I don't know what would be
 involved so this might be a unreasonable suggestion but the panels seem to
 be coming down in price a lot.
 PT
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:16 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India
 
 I was up late, and was able to find some people to contact.  Someone
 purchased a CS generator and distilled water from someone, and is
 getting on a plain, bringing it to the needed part of India.  The
 guy's name is Rama.  His phone number is on some obscure yahoo answers
 page.
 
 There is also another website called space age or something like that.
 They sell a generator.  Though they recommended tap water  It is
 still much better than nothing, even in sublingual absorption.  They
 said the higher PPM has desirable.  Anyway, still definitely has its
 uses in emergency.
 
 There is also an online store called BIOVEA that has a link for Indian
 customers on the bottom.  They have 2 oz bottles of source naturals
 colloidal silver.  If they are in India, that is another option.
 
 So that is what I learned about CS in India!
 
 Now just to hope this generator works on our beloved patient.
 
 
 Asif, do you know about quality of distilled water in India?  Maybe
 the guy made it himself?  I am still trying to contact them and get
 more details.
 
 David
 
 
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Re: CSOT - MMS/hydrogen peroxide

2011-10-19 Thread Grace1way
I wonder if we could include hydrogen peroxide in this line of  discussion. 
 I bought a book about it, and the H2O2.  I shared  these with three 
people, all of whom had trouble with vomiting and discontinued  it.  That made 
me 
feel really bad for them.  Because of the concern  about vomiting/nausea, I 
never tried either of these myself.  Does anyone  have any comments about 
hydrogen peroxide--on a similar vein to what has been  discussed with MMS?  I 
doubt that it is poisonous, because I understand  that the body makes it for 
defense against pathogens.  What do others  think?
 
Thanks,
 
Jill
 
 
In a message dated 10/19/2011 1:40:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
gaiac...@gmail.com writes:

 
 
I would stay away from it too.  I do not know what all  your health issues 
are, but if 1 drop does that, then it's pretty  poisonous for you.
 
My Dad had leukemia and was also diabetic and he could take  one drop, 
though 2 made him FEEL nauseous.  He didn't throw up  or have diarrhea, but he 
didn't like the feeling of being nauseous,  naturally.  He was a big guy 
too--240 plus pounds, 6 foot 2  inches.  
 
I know Humble says that it's the die off, but if it affects  you that bad 
either you are extremely ill, or it's simply not for  you.  I would think it 
wasn't for you and would not push it.   There are other ways of using a more 
dilute MMS, at only 5%, that can be  very helpful around the house as a 
cleaner and such, though, so that  your bottle isn't wasted.
 
And--it makes a great descaler.   We have very  hard water here and get 
terrible lime build up on everything.   I mix up a big squirt of MMS and a big 
squirt of white  vinegar, let it sit about 10 minutes, and put that into my  
dishwasher.  I run a cycle and boy, does that dishwasher come out  
sparkling clean!  Lol  my  friend uses her MMS to descale  her coffee pots.
 
Samala,
Renee 
 
 


 


 
---Original Message---
 
 
I  was on one drop a day with the projectile vomiting, along with wonderful 
 diarrhea.  

 
 

 
It  was too much for me and I won't take it again.  I tried 3 times and  
each time was so ill.  It just isn't for  me.
 






inline: happy.gif

RE: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

2011-10-19 Thread PTFerrance
All you really need is a pressure cooker, some tubing and a receiving
receptacle from what I have read.
PT

-Original Message-
From: Asif Nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:41 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

I was thinking of what was required to heat the water to steam and also the
cooling/ heat exchanger requirements.
In the case if india at the very minimum if a solar array was utilised to
heat water to boiling point by thermal means and electrical requirement
would just be for cooling only. It would be messy, but it would work



On 19 Oct 2011, at 20:52, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 You don't need electricity to distill water.  All you need is a distiller
 pot and a fire.  That is how moonshine was made during prohibition.  You
 might want to check it out.
 PT
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Asif Nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:19 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India
 
 Solar panels will heat water effectively in india, as for generating
 electricity, I do not think it will be enough by itself unless
supplemented
 by decent battery backup and inverter combination. 
 Even then I do not believe such a system will be able to sustain that much
 current draw. 
 As my uncle has such a setup and can just about run two energy saving
bulbs
 and a fan for a few hours. So a small distiller such as mine that draws
750w
 would I feel become unsustainable for the amount of time that would be
 required. 
 
 
 
 On 19 Oct 2011, at 20:01, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Have you considered a small solar generator to generate enough
electricity
 to help out with distilling and other things?  I don't know what would be
 involved so this might be a unreasonable suggestion but the panels seem
to
 be coming down in price a lot.
 PT
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:16 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India
 
 I was up late, and was able to find some people to contact.  Someone
 purchased a CS generator and distilled water from someone, and is
 getting on a plain, bringing it to the needed part of India.  The
 guy's name is Rama.  His phone number is on some obscure yahoo answers
 page.
 
 There is also another website called space age or something like that.
 They sell a generator.  Though they recommended tap water  It is
 still much better than nothing, even in sublingual absorption.  They
 said the higher PPM has desirable.  Anyway, still definitely has its
 uses in emergency.
 
 There is also an online store called BIOVEA that has a link for Indian
 customers on the bottom.  They have 2 oz bottles of source naturals
 colloidal silver.  If they are in India, that is another option.
 
 So that is what I learned about CS in India!
 
 Now just to hope this generator works on our beloved patient.
 
 
 Asif, do you know about quality of distilled water in India?  Maybe
 the guy made it himself?  I am still trying to contact them and get
 more details.
 
 David
 
 
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Re: CSOT - lymphatics

2011-10-19 Thread Martsmail53
My chest was so full of toxin...It was painful to 
touch any part of my  upper body. At doctor's advice, I ran 30 minutes 
twice a day 
on small  38 trampoline and sat in sauna for 60 -90 minutes twice a day 
for 6 weeks  and pain went away. That was 2 1/2 years ago... I gained 40 
pounds with my  mold exposure. Read Detox or Die Book by Dr. Sherry Rodgers 
for 
advice and  supplement to take. I was exposed to 9 kinds of mold including 
aspergillus  for years from evaporator of company car, I drove 6 days a 
week. I had large  bleeding sores develop on my neck and back when I was 
sick, 
they have  cleared up. Watch attached Cancer Answer
 




_Click here: The Cancer Answer_ 
(http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=380881482962821998#)  


 
 

In a message dated 9/17/2011 7:45:31 P.M.  Central Daylight Time, 
smjl...@wavewls.com writes:

It  certainly would be worth a try. As some have said, even if you 
can't  actually jump in a way that you are lifting your feet off the mat, 
just  bouncing lightly in place is very helpful. Its been very important 
for  my health. Sara

On 9/17/2011 7:08 PM, Smitty wrote:
 I know  someone with lymphedema.
 Would a rebounder help ?
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Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

2011-10-19 Thread Asif Nathekar
This is what I would do here in Britain, due to the humidity and ambient 
temperature there is a good chance  the passive cooling means would allow 
the water to cool enough to condense, given a good long copper cooling 
tube


However in India, with high humidity and very high ambient temperature... 
and a cooling tube which would cool by passive means is not something I 
would rely on...


Having said all that... I haven't tried it...!


--
From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:25 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India


All you really need is a pressure cooker, some tubing and a receiving
receptacle from what I have read.
PT

-Original Message-
From: Asif Nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:41 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

I was thinking of what was required to heat the water to steam and also 
the

cooling/ heat exchanger requirements.
In the case if india at the very minimum if a solar array was utilised to
heat water to boiling point by thermal means and electrical requirement
would just be for cooling only. It would be messy, but it would work



On 19 Oct 2011, at 20:52, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:


You don't need electricity to distill water.  All you need is a distiller
pot and a fire.  That is how moonshine was made during prohibition.  You
might want to check it out.
PT

-Original Message-
From: Asif Nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:19 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

Solar panels will heat water effectively in india, as for generating
electricity, I do not think it will be enough by itself unless

supplemented

by decent battery backup and inverter combination.
Even then I do not believe such a system will be able to sustain that 
much

current draw.
As my uncle has such a setup and can just about run two energy saving

bulbs

and a fan for a few hours. So a small distiller such as mine that draws

750w

would I feel become unsustainable for the amount of time that would be
required.



On 19 Oct 2011, at 20:01, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:


Have you considered a small solar generator to generate enough

electricity
to help out with distilling and other things?  I don't know what would 
be

involved so this might be a unreasonable suggestion but the panels seem

to

be coming down in price a lot.
PT

-Original Message-
From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:16 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

I was up late, and was able to find some people to contact.  Someone
purchased a CS generator and distilled water from someone, and is
getting on a plain, bringing it to the needed part of India.  The
guy's name is Rama.  His phone number is on some obscure yahoo answers
page.

There is also another website called space age or something like that.
They sell a generator.  Though they recommended tap water  It is
still much better than nothing, even in sublingual absorption.  They
said the higher PPM has desirable.  Anyway, still definitely has its
uses in emergency.

There is also an online store called BIOVEA that has a link for Indian
customers on the bottom.  They have 2 oz bottles of source naturals
colloidal silver.  If they are in India, that is another option.

So that is what I learned about CS in India!

Now just to hope this generator works on our beloved patient.


Asif, do you know about quality of distilled water in India?  Maybe
the guy made it himself?  I am still trying to contact them and get
more details.

David


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Re: CSsmart meter shielding

2011-10-19 Thread Asif Nathekar

which one?... I have 3! :)

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From: phoenix23002 tds.net phoenix23...@tds.net
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:14 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSsmart meter shielding


Maybe that narrow time frame would be the perfect time to really wear
the tinfoil hats?  LOL

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Asif Nathekar
asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote:
that would be a decent compromise, as the meter would buffer the traffic 
and

send when the next available opportunity presents itself

which of course would be when you uncover the shielding

perhaps the neighborhood could agree on a time to do this... e.g. 
9pm-10pm

every night

bear in mind that a LOT of traffic would be fed during that time
intensively... rather than being drip fed throughout the day... there 
would

be maximum transmission  during that time.. as it would be making up for
lost time!...

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From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:58 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSsmart meter shielding


Maybe if a type of shielding could be devised that does not block its
operation 24 hours a day.  Maybe for a minute or 2 here and there it
would work.  They might think the meter is broken instead of
suspecting the resident.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net
wrote:


Shirley,

  I have one too.  If you live in California you can protest to the
DPUC on their website.  If they recieve enough complaints they will ban
the
things.  I complained yesterday.  They say aluminum foil (double or
triple
thickness) will block the energy.  Put sheets on the wall behind the
meter
between you and the meter.  You can wrap the outside of the meter as
well...
just keep the front uncovered so Edison can read it.  If they cannot 
they

might send someone to your house.  From what I understand all of the
meters
around you communicate with each other.

Bob

- Original Message -
From: Shirley Reed
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:59 AM
Subject: CSsmart meter shielding
Anyone know if tachyon items can shield from this thing??   If the 
energy
from these meters travels for 5 miles, then we would need to shield 
from

everyone's meters and that doesn't seem possible.  But it is quite
possible
that I don't understand the situation.  :)  If the energy goes out from
everyones meter, does it go just in one direction or all around?  Seems
to
me that we need to know this before any strategy can be devised for
protection.   My house has one of these things.  Scary.   pj




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Re: CSOT - MMS/hydrogen peroxide

2011-10-19 Thread anthony . aquifer
I found the taste, or more so the after taste of H2O2 made me feel sick. It is 
also very reactive so good not take on a full stomach.  It never gave me 
Diarrhea like MMS did.  
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-Original Message-
From: grace1...@aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:48:50 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS/hydrogen peroxide

I wonder if we could include hydrogen peroxide in this line of  discussion. 
 I bought a book about it, and the H2O2.  I shared  these with three 
people, all of whom had trouble with vomiting and discontinued  it.  That made 
me 
feel really bad for them.  Because of the concern  about vomiting/nausea, I 
never tried either of these myself.  Does anyone  have any comments about 
hydrogen peroxide--on a similar vein to what has been  discussed with MMS?  I 
doubt that it is poisonous, because I understand  that the body makes it for 
defense against pathogens.  What do others  think?
 
Thanks,
 
Jill
 
 
In a message dated 10/19/2011 1:40:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
gaiac...@gmail.com writes:

 
 
I would stay away from it too.  I do not know what all  your health issues 
are, but if 1 drop does that, then it's pretty  poisonous for you.
 
My Dad had leukemia and was also diabetic and he could take  one drop, 
though 2 made him FEEL nauseous.  He didn't throw up  or have diarrhea, but he 
didn't like the feeling of being nauseous,  naturally.  He was a big guy 
too--240 plus pounds, 6 foot 2  inches.  
 
I know Humble says that it's the die off, but if it affects  you that bad 
either you are extremely ill, or it's simply not for  you.  I would think it 
wasn't for you and would not push it.   There are other ways of using a more 
dilute MMS, at only 5%, that can be  very helpful around the house as a 
cleaner and such, though, so that  your bottle isn't wasted.
 
And--it makes a great descaler.   We have very  hard water here and get 
terrible lime build up on everything.   I mix up a big squirt of MMS and a big 
squirt of white  vinegar, let it sit about 10 minutes, and put that into my  
dishwasher.  I run a cycle and boy, does that dishwasher come out  
sparkling clean!  Lol  my  friend uses her MMS to descale  her coffee pots.
 
Samala,
Renee 
 
 


 


 
---Original Message---
 
 
I  was on one drop a day with the projectile vomiting, along with wonderful 
 diarrhea.  

 
 

 
It  was too much for me and I won't take it again.  I tried 3 times and  
each time was so ill.  It just isn't for  me.
 









Re: CSOT - MMS

2011-10-19 Thread cking001
Heh... At my house, we call it dinner...

Chuck

Those that forget the pasta are doomed to reheat it.


On 10/19/2011 4:38:16 PM, grace1...@aol.com wrote:
 I
 don't know if the correct term is activated charcoal, or activated carbon. I 
 know that very burned toast (black) and activated charcoal/carbon capsules 
 will serve the same purpose. I seem to remember you can get the 
 charcoal/carbon capsules at a health food store.
 


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Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

2011-10-19 Thread David AuBuchon
Anyone know of a good alternative to Ensure...which they feed to every dying
person in hospitals it seems...High sugar content + candida equals recipe
for death.

Also, anyone know of a PREMADE zapper type of device that is easy to use to
attempt to treat his infected teeth and root canals.  I am not going to be
able to coordinate with anyone there to get them to make a device, so it
needs to come premade.

Thanks!
David


Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

2011-10-19 Thread Guyot Léna
When my friend wasn't keeping the feeding-tube formula down the hosp.  
was giving her and she was dramatically losing weight, I took formula  
can home and checked its nutritional content in my Nutrion Almanac,  
and then compared it to the content of fresh carrot juice which she  
was begging for. The data comparison convinced the hospital staff and  
she finally gained some weight and energy. They'd sometimes complain  
when a stray root hair would block the tube, but were impressed with  
how right her craving had been!

No, I don't know what the name of their feed was. This was 35 years ago.

Be well,
Léna
On Oct 19, 2011, at 10:50 PM, David AuBuchon wrote:

Anyone know of a good alternative to Ensure...which they feed to  
every dying person in hospitals it seems...High sugar content +  
candida equals recipe for death.


Also, anyone know of a PREMADE zapper type of device that is easy to  
use to attempt to treat his infected teeth and root canals.  I am not  
going to be able to coordinate with anyone there to get them to make  
a device, so it needs to come premade.


Thanks!
David



Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

2011-10-19 Thread Smitty
David:

 Go to Yahoo groups =
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/
There will be a lot of info on how to make a zapper.
Smitty

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 4:50 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.comwrote:

 Anyone know of a good alternative to Ensure...which they feed to every
 dying person in hospitals it seems...High sugar content + candida equals
 recipe for death.

 Also, anyone know of a PREMADE zapper type of device that is easy to use to
 attempt to treat his infected teeth and root canals.  I am not going to be
 able to coordinate with anyone there to get them to make a device, so it
 needs to come premade.

 Thanks!
 David



Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India

2011-10-19 Thread David AuBuchon
Thanks all.  The patient just passed away.