RE: CS>silver and DMSO for abcessed tooth

[Bob Banever]

The best way to kill an infection in the root of a tooth is by electricity.
All you need is a flashlight battery or at the most a 6 volt lantern battery
but NOT 9 volts. too strong and dangerous.  Go to microelectricitygermkiller
group on Yahoo for instructions on how to make a Godzilla unit.  Very simple
with battery, wires, sponges and elastic bands.  Two 8 minute sessions is
all it takes.  Good luck.

 

Bob

 

  _  

From: mgperrault [mailto:mgperra...@aol.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:35 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>silver and DMSO for abcessed tooth

 

On 1/20/2013 4:35 PM, JERRY PRENDERGAST wrote:

Hi,
Anyone know if DMSO and homemade silver could help an abscessed tooth and
prevent a root canal? If so what would be the protocol please.
Thanks, Sandy

Seems like it would work, but havent had much success with that.  On the
other hand, DC zapping, godzilla style, using an inexpensive lantern battery
and sponges seems to work pretty well.  Clove oil is pretty effective.  DMSO
with clove and CS might be worth an experiment.  An inexpensive laser shows
promise.  You can get a certain dye and use this with a laser and this is
supposed to be effective.   Ozone is said to work wonders, but the problem
is you cant breath it or it makes havoc with your lungs.   I hold my breath,
delivering the ozone through a small tube.  But you would really have to
work this out, and be consistent.

RE: CS>CS and RA, CG

[Renee]

What do you want to know about it?

Samala, 
Renee


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Has anybody here know about Ormus?
Tara



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RE: CS>Thyroid

[Laura Zolman]

yes...I was diagnosed with hypo a few years ago...after much research and 
expreraminting with my doctor (Internist) I am now no longer on any meds...n
one...I had to take a med for my thyroid for about 4 yearswas only on 
Armour(natural which some doc hate..but it is a balanced T1-T2-T3-T4 
products...for my thyroid..most docs in truth do not undertand what docs of 
years ago knew abou the thyroid function...or the adrenal gland involvement...

Docs dont know what the T 1 and T 2 do..so say they have no value.
here is a couple website...learn all you can...you dont want to travel the 
horror story so many do today..
mostly because they dont know any different/better way to go...just follow what 
the doc says..
http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://www.ivy-rose.co.uk/Define/Thyroxin

you will learn too...many do not believe the testing is enough..symtoms of =
our bodies should be as important has the TSH test.

I also recently learned how much histimine can affect the thyroiddid 
research..then went to doc to discuss it...he said yes..he can very much affect 
it..I said..for some reason..my allergies seen worst and it is causing 
histimine issues

Well the mystery is solved..I have a negative reaction to cashews..which I love 
and was eating many during the holidays..and the further in time away from 
them..inflamation(and water retention) is gone..and even a clicking in a thumb 
joint is gone...

so research research...


 

 
 
 
 




Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 19:13:48 +
From: d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Thyroid

I have been tested and found to be low in thyroid and they have put me on 
something called thyroxin.  Does anyone have any experience with this?  Many 
thanks.   dee  

Re: CS>silver and DMSO for abcessed tooth

[mgperrault]

On 1/20/2013 4:35 PM, JERRY PRENDERGAST wrote:

Hi,
Anyone know if DMSO and homemade silver could help an abscessed tooth 
and prevent a root canal? If so what would be the protocol please.

Thanks, Sandy
Seems like it would work, but havent had much success with that.  On the 
other hand, DC zapping, godzilla style, using an inexpensive lantern 
battery and sponges seems to work pretty well.  Clove oil is pretty 
effective.  DMSO with clove and CS might be worth an experiment.  An 
inexpensive laser shows promise.  You can get a certain dye and use this 
with a laser and this is supposed to be effective.   Ozone is said to 
work wonders, but the problem is you cant breath it or it makes havoc 
with your lungs.   I hold my breath, delivering the ozone through a 
small tube.  But you would really have to work this out, and be consistent.

Re: CS>CS and RA, CG

[123 456]

Has anybody here know about Ormus?
Tara

On 1/20/13, Lena Guyot  wrote:
> Thanks Bob!
> On Jan 20, 2013, at 4:33 PM, bob Larson wrote:
>
>> ...the generator for $300 must be the Ovo from Karl.
>> i dare you to find one genuine verifiable satisfied customer.
>> it's sooo easy to find people who've received nothing but empty promises
>> then silence for their money and are really pissed.
>>
>> no, your CS generator won't do it.  you don't want ionic gold anyways.
>> it requires a high voltage power source to power a spark arc underwater
>> and a way to keep the spark going as the gold is consumed and gets
>> shorter.
>>
>> From: Lena Guyot [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 11:41 AM
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> Subject: Re: CS>CS and RA, CG
>>
>> I'd really like to know about this too! I have a CS generator and am
>> wondering if gold wires, instead of silver, would do it. Can't really
>> afford a new, $300 gold generator that google showed me.
>> Or, for that matter, what would happen if I put some flakes of pure gold
>> leaf into my distilled water before starting up a batch of CS with the
>> silver wires in place?
>>
>> I'm doing well with CS, so this isn't an urgent matter, but always looking
>> to improve.
>>
>> Be well,
>> Léna
>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 10:00 AM, André Juthe wrote:
>>
>>> But can you not just buy golden wires (instead of silver wires) and
>>> attach those to the silvergen or whatever device you are using? Cannot
>>> CG be made in the same way as CS?
>>>
>>> /AJ
>>>
>>> 2013/1/20 bob Larson :
 ...CG is reputed to raise I.Q. while using it. notice anything?

 beware purveyors of CG machines that never deliver anything unless
 forced
 (in my personal experience and that of many others), and then nothing
 worthwhile.  why the feds don't bust karl or at least shut him down is
 testimony to WHAT?

 unfortunately much of the CG offered for sale is said to be made by
 chemical
 processes that can easily be done poorly and leave contaminants ... the
 CG
 made by electrical arc methods  is probably best?

 
 From: James McDonald [mailto:kscma...@yahoo.com]
 Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 2:17 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CS>CS and RA

 We have been taking the CG for over 6 months now. Her RA has never been
 better, I have a damaged spine and it only took 5 days for me to notice
 a
 difference but took the wife almost two weeks to feel a difference but
 she
 has! She can now stand up at work for the whole day and come home and
 not
 collapse into bed! Her hips and joints do not hurt like they used to,
 she
 tells me the pain level is down about 85%. She is very happy also that
 there
 are no super nasty side effects unlike big pharms drugs(death is one of
 the
 listed side effects!).



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RE: CS>silver and DMSO for abcessed tooth

[bob Larson]

if the doc already says you need a root canal it's too late to prevent but
you might be able to not be miserable with the infection and slow the decay
some with the DMSO+CS if for some reason you must put off the RC or
extraction.


  _  

From: JERRY PRENDERGAST [mailto:jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 3:35 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>silver and DMSO for abcessed tooth


Hi,
Anyone know if DMSO and homemade silver could help an abscessed tooth and
prevent a root canal? If so what would be the protocol please.
Thanks, Sandy

RE: CS>CS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

[bob Larson]

it comes in 50mg tabs only.  Rx compounders make smaller doses from bulk
powder, or some might grind up tabs and add filler.
 
the usual way is to dissolve one tab in 50ml Distilled (or RO) water.  then
1 ml of liquid = 1 mg naltrexone.
keeps in the frig for over a month, or room temp for up to a month.
mix it in a dark bottle with a dropper in the cap... use the dropper to put
it in a baby med "spoon' which has lines marked in ml.
mix into any drink or have it straight down... slightly bitter, not very bad
taste at all and doesn't linger long 


  _  

From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 1:47 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>CS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID


How do you take it if one tab lasts over 2 weeks?
Thanks.
PT


 

RE: CS>CS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

[bob Larson]

...they're the cheapest and have been fine for me.
flat $25 shipping for any size order to the USA so to be the best deal i
spend at least $125 per order.  they have other stuff of interest of course.
doing like that my LDN costs less than $6/month


  _  

From: Lena Guyot [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 1:56 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>CS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID


I sent this earlier but it mustn't have gone through. 
You can get naltrexone (called Naltima) from the offshore source,
alldaychemist.com   without a prescription. Then,
by putting one tablet in a bottle of 50 ml of distilled water and shaking,
you have just made low-dose-naltrexone.(actually better than dealing with a
compounding pharmacy where sometimes other fillers are added) Most people
start with just a drop of this LDN (one ml), and slowly work up to perhaps
4.  
alldaychemist.com   is reputable: many of us have
used them in several groups. The prices are low, shipping costs a bit high
and delivery is at least 2 weeks. They don't take credit cards; just money
orders now.Their products are all excellent quality. 
Be well,
Léna
On Jan 20, 2013, at 4:46 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:



How do you take it if one tab lasts over 2 weeks?
Thanks.
PT

CS>silver and DMSO for abcessed tooth

[JERRY PRENDERGAST]

Hi,
Anyone know if DMSO and homemade silver could help an abscessed tooth and 
prevent a root canal? If so what would be the protocol please.
Thanks, Sandy

Re: CS>CS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

[Lena Guyot]

I sent this earlier but it mustn't have gone through.
You can get naltrexone (called Naltima) from the offshore source, 
alldaychemist.com without a prescription. Then, by putting one tablet in a 
bottle of 50 ml of distilled water and shaking, you have just made 
low-dose-naltrexone.(actually better than dealing with a compounding pharmacy 
where sometimes other fillers are added) Most people start with just a drop of 
this LDN (one ml), and slowly work up to perhaps 4. 
alldaychemist.com is reputable: many of us have used them in several groups. 
The prices are low, shipping costs a bit high and delivery is at least 2 weeks. 
They don't take credit cards; just money orders now.Their products are all 
excellent quality. 
Be well,
Léna
On Jan 20, 2013, at 4:46 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:

> How do you take it if one tab lasts over 2 weeks?
> Thanks.
> PT
> 
> From: bob Larson 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 4:31:15 PM
> Subject: RE: CS>CS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID
> 
> it's an orphan generic at this time, but that may be changing as advanced 
> trials and patents are underway for new use.
> yes, it's Rx, but dirt cheap generic.
> so, to be legal and safe with dealing with the medical industry you must have 
> a prescription.  doctors willing to go a tad outside their boxes and Rx an 
> off-label use can be hard to find in many areas, although LDN awareness is 
> spreading.
> many just buy it offshore in 50mg tabs.  one tab lasts over two weeks. 
> 
> From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] 
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:44 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>CS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID
> 
> But don't you need a prescription for it?
> PT
>>  

Re: CS>CS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

[Jane MacRoss]

SLowly?
  - Original Message - 
  From: PT Ferrance 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 8:46 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>CS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID


  How do you take it if one tab lasts over 2 weeks?
  Thanks.
  PT

Re: CS>CS and RA

[PT Ferrance]

Don't know personally but I believe someone else addressed the question.
PT





From: MaryAnn Helland 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 4:39:10 PM
Subject: Re: CS>CS and RA


Hi PT.  Does this zapper do the same thing that a home-made 6-V battery set up 
does?
MA




From: PT Ferrance 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 12:42:55 PM
Subject: Re: CS>CS and RA


First, I manage fibromyalgia and thyroid tests for people with fibro are 
notably 
unreliable so I have stopped paying attention to them for a long time.  I only 
started using the Z4eX zapper the end of the year.  My body started rejecting 
the T3 by behaving like it was getting to much... and this happened basically 
overnight.  I don't know how long it will last.  I'm grateful for not needing 
it 
now.

I used the Z4eX zapper which I purchased on ebay.  I use self-adhesive 
electrode 
pads and put them on my feet. 


Since every body is different I cannot tell you that you will have the same 
results but the zapper is inexpensive compared to other things like drugs so I 
felt it was a good investment.  There is a yahoo group for zapping called 
microelectricity germ  killers.

Good luck.
PT





From: "aslra...@gmail.com" 
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 11:44:59 AM
Subject: Re: CS>CS and RA


Hi PT, 
Thanks for sharing your experience in using the zppaer to cure Hashimoto's. 
I have Hashimoto's thyroid disease myself and have been searching high and low 
for a cure
for it to no avail- I want to be drug-free but it hasn't happened yet. 
I'm trying to understand how the zapper works exactly because I am severely 
disabled (coma-like naps for 8 to 9 hours a day) when I get off of my thyroid 
medicine. How did you tolerate the reduction of medicine dosages... doctors are 
not that supportive to get constant TSH blood lab test on frequent basis (due 
to 
insurance). How did you avoid they hyperthyroid symptoms?  
What zapper did you use, how many times did you use it per day, and what cost 
is 
it. Does health insurance cover this device?  
Do you still have to use the zapper to keep the Hashi symptoms at bay? 

I would really love to  learn more as I'd so want to get off of the drugs and 
be 
healthy again. 

Kindly, 

RaVen  



On Jan 20, 2013, at 9:27 AM, PT Ferrance  wrote:


I was told I had thyroid nodules indicative of Hashimoto's which is autoimmune 
also.  I used the zapper for 3 weeks and no longer needed the medication.  I 
wonder if the doctors really understand what autoimmune means or if they just 
use it for a way to get people on medication, lab tests and coming back for 
monitoring!
>Just my experience.
>PT
>
>
>
>

From: bob Larson 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 1:18:27  AM
>Subject: RE: CS>CS and RA
>
>try CS + LDN together.
>
>both provide broad immune support; CS kills directly also. 
>RA is (usually?) an autoimmune issue & that's what LDN excels at.
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Monique Sauve [mailto:moniquesa...@shaw.ca] 
>> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 5:18 PM
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> Subject: CS>CS and RA
>> 
>> Hello
>> 
>> Am new to this group.  I have rheumatoid arthritis and put it into 
>> remission using minocin. But then after a few years the 
>> minocin made me 
>> sick. So am looking at safer ways to kill off the bad bacteria that I 
>> think are causing my symptoms. Has anyone here has success using 
>>  colloidal silver for RA? if so at what dose?
>> 
>>  Thanks
>> Monique
>
>
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Re: CS>CS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

[PT Ferrance]

How do you take it if one tab lasts over 2 weeks?
Thanks.
PT





From: bob Larson 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 4:31:15 PM
Subject: RE: CS>CS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

 
it's an orphan generic at this time, but that may be  changing as advanced 
trials and patents are underway for new  use.
yes, it's Rx, but dirt cheap generic.
so, to be legal and safe with dealing with the medical  industry you must have 
a 
prescription.  doctors willing to go a tad outside  their boxes and Rx an 
off-label use can be hard to find in many areas, although  LDN awareness is 
spreading.
many just buy it offshore in 50mg tabs.  one tab lasts  over two weeks.  



 From: PT Ferrance[mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] 
>Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:44AM
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Subject: Re: CS>CS andRA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID
>
>
>But don't you need a prescription for it?
>PT
>
> 

Re: CS>CS and RA

[MaryAnn Helland]

Hi PT.  Does this zapper do the same thing that a home-made 6-V battery set up 
does?
MA




From: PT Ferrance 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 12:42:55 PM
Subject: Re: CS>CS and RA


First, I manage fibromyalgia and thyroid tests for people with fibro are 
notably 
unreliable so I have stopped paying attention to them for a long time.  I only 
started using the Z4eX zapper the end of the year.  My body started rejecting 
the T3 by behaving like it was getting to much... and this happened basically 
overnight.  I don't know how long it will last.  I'm grateful for not needing 
it 
now.

I used the Z4eX zapper which I purchased on ebay.  I use self-adhesive 
electrode 
pads and put them on my feet. 


Since every body is different I cannot tell you that you will have the same 
results but the zapper is inexpensive compared to other things like drugs so I 
felt it was a good investment.  There is a yahoo group for zapping called 
microelectricity germ  killers.

Good luck.
PT





From: "aslra...@gmail.com" 
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 11:44:59 AM
Subject: Re: CS>CS and RA


Hi PT, 
Thanks for sharing your experience in using the zppaer to cure Hashimoto's. 
I have Hashimoto's thyroid disease myself and have been searching high and low 
for a cure
for it to no avail- I want to be drug-free but it hasn't happened yet. 
I'm trying to understand how the zapper works exactly because I am severely 
disabled (coma-like naps for 8 to 9 hours a day) when I get off of my thyroid 
medicine. How did you tolerate the reduction of medicine dosages... doctors are 
not that supportive to get constant TSH blood lab test on frequent basis (due 
to 
insurance). How did you avoid they hyperthyroid symptoms?  
What zapper did you use, how many times did you use it per day, and what cost 
is 
it. Does health insurance cover this device?  
Do you still have to use the zapper to keep the Hashi symptoms at bay? 

I would really love to  learn more as I'd so want to get off of the drugs and 
be 
healthy again. 

Kindly, 

RaVen  



On Jan 20, 2013, at 9:27 AM, PT Ferrance  wrote:


I was told I had thyroid nodules indicative of Hashimoto's which is autoimmune 
also.  I used the zapper for 3 weeks and no longer needed the medication.  I 
wonder if the doctors really understand what autoimmune means or if they just 
use it for a way to get people on medication, lab tests and coming back for 
monitoring!
>Just my experience.
>PT
>
>
>
>

From: bob Larson 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 1:18:27  AM
>Subject: RE: CS>CS and RA
>
>try CS + LDN together.
>
>both provide broad immune support; CS kills directly also. 
>RA is (usually?) an autoimmune issue & that's what LDN excels at.
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Monique Sauve [mailto:moniquesa...@shaw.ca] 
>> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 5:18 PM
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> Subject: CS>CS and RA
>> 
>> Hello
>> 
>> Am new to this group.  I have rheumatoid arthritis and put it into 
>> remission using minocin. But then after a few years the 
>> minocin made me 
>> sick. So am looking at safer ways to kill off the bad bacteria that I 
>> think are causing my symptoms. Has anyone here has success using 
>>  colloidal silver for RA? if so at what dose?
>> 
>>  Thanks
>> Monique
>
>
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Re: CS>CS and RA, CG

[Lena Guyot]

Thanks Bob!
On Jan 20, 2013, at 4:33 PM, bob Larson wrote:

> ...the generator for $300 must be the Ovo from Karl.
> i dare you to find one genuine verifiable satisfied customer.
> it's sooo easy to find people who've received nothing but empty promises then 
> silence for their money and are really pissed.
>  
> no, your CS generator won't do it.  you don't want ionic gold anyways.
> it requires a high voltage power source to power a spark arc underwater and a 
> way to keep the spark going as the gold is consumed and gets shorter. 
> 
> From: Lena Guyot [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 11:41 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>CS and RA, CG
> 
> I'd really like to know about this too! I have a CS generator and am 
> wondering if gold wires, instead of silver, would do it. Can't really afford 
> a new, $300 gold generator that google showed me.
> Or, for that matter, what would happen if I put some flakes of pure gold leaf 
> into my distilled water before starting up a batch of CS with the silver 
> wires in place?
> 
> I'm doing well with CS, so this isn't an urgent matter, but always looking to 
> improve.
> 
> Be well,
> Léna
> On Jan 20, 2013, at 10:00 AM, André Juthe wrote:
> 
>> But can you not just buy golden wires (instead of silver wires) and
>> attach those to the silvergen or whatever device you are using? Cannot
>> CG be made in the same way as CS?
>> 
>> /AJ
>> 
>> 2013/1/20 bob Larson :
>>> ...CG is reputed to raise I.Q. while using it. notice anything?
>>> 
>>> beware purveyors of CG machines that never deliver anything unless forced
>>> (in my personal experience and that of many others), and then nothing
>>> worthwhile.  why the feds don't bust karl or at least shut him down is
>>> testimony to WHAT?
>>> 
>>> unfortunately much of the CG offered for sale is said to be made by chemical
>>> processes that can easily be done poorly and leave contaminants ... the CG
>>> made by electrical arc methods  is probably best?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: James McDonald [mailto:kscma...@yahoo.com]
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 2:17 AM
>>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>>> Subject: Re: CS>CS and RA
>>> 
>>> We have been taking the CG for over 6 months now. Her RA has never been
>>> better, I have a damaged spine and it only took 5 days for me to notice a
>>> difference but took the wife almost two weeks to feel a difference but she
>>> has! She can now stand up at work for the whole day and come home and not
>>> collapse into bed! Her hips and joints do not hurt like they used to, she
>>> tells me the pain level is down about 85%. She is very happy also that there
>>> are no super nasty side effects unlike big pharms drugs(death is one of the
>>> listed side effects!).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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RE: CS>CS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

[bob Larson]

it's an orphan generic at this time, but that may be changing as advanced
trials and patents are underway for new use.
yes, it's Rx, but dirt cheap generic.
so, to be legal and safe with dealing with the medical industry you must
have a prescription.  doctors willing to go a tad outside their boxes and Rx
an off-label use can be hard to find in many areas, although LDN awareness
is spreading.
many just buy it offshore in 50mg tabs.  one tab lasts over two weeks.  


  _  

From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:44 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>CS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID


But don't you need a prescription for it?
PT


 

RE: CS>CS and RA

[bob Larson]

...that group "microelectricitygermkillers" isn't really about hulda style
zappers at all.  it's about very cheaply made DC direct current (or very low
freq polarity-reversing D.C.) devices operating on the same principal as the
Beck devices... passing microcurrents through bugs as they flow through a
blood vessel, whereas the hulda devices pass higher freqs through the whole
body usually hand-to-hand.  the 'zilla devices (as used in the yahoo group)
are experimented with using all manner of electrode and passing
microcurrents through things like bedsores, burns,  (along with CS as a
conductor) and bugbites.
 
using a hulda type zapper with the ideas presented in the group might be
good.


  _  

From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:42 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>CS and RA


First, I manage fibromyalgia and thyroid tests for people with fibro are
notably unreliable so I have stopped paying attention to them for a long
time.  I only started using the Z4eX zapper the end of the year.  My body
started rejecting the T3 by behaving like it was getting to much... and this
happened basically overnight.  I don't know how long it will last.  I'm
grateful for not needing it now.

I used the Z4eX zapper which I purchased on ebay.  I use self-adhesive
electrode pads and put them on my feet. 

Since every body is different I cannot tell you that you will have the same
results but the zapper is inexpensive compared to other things like drugs so
I felt it was a good investment.  There is a yahoo group for zapping called
microelectricity germ killers.

Good luck.
PT



  _  

From: "aslra...@gmail.com" 
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 11:44:59 AM
Subject: Re: CS>CS and RA


Hi PT, 
Thanks for sharing your experience in using the zppaer to cure Hashimoto's. 
I have Hashimoto's thyroid disease myself and have been searching high and
low for a cure
for it to no avail- I want to be drug-free but it hasn't happened yet. 
I'm trying to understand how the zapper works exactly because I am severely
disabled (coma-like naps for 8 to 9 hours a day) when I get off of my
thyroid medicine. How did you tolerate the reduction of medicine dosages...
doctors are not that supportive to get constant TSH blood lab test on
frequent basis (due to insurance). How did you avoid they hyperthyroid
symptoms?  
What zapper did you use, how many times did you use it per day, and what
cost is it. Does health insurance cover this device?  
Do you still have to use the zapper to keep the Hashi symptoms at bay? 

I would really love to learn more as I'd so want to get off of the drugs and
be healthy again. 

Kindly, 

RaVen  



On Jan 20, 2013, at 9:27 AM, PT Ferrance  wrote:



I was told I had thyroid nodules indicative of Hashimoto's which is
autoimmune also.  I used the zapper for 3 weeks and no longer needed the
medication.  I wonder if the doctors really understand what autoimmune means
or if they just use it for a way to get people on medication, lab tests and
coming back for monitoring!
Just my experience.
PT



  _  

From: bob Larson 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 1:18:27 AM
Subject: RE: CS>CS and RA

try CS + LDN together.

both provide broad immune support; CS kills directly also. 
RA is (usually?) an autoimmune issue & that's what LDN excels at.

> -Original Message-
> From: Monique Sauve [mailto:moniquesa...@shaw.ca] 
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 5:18 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>CS and RA
> 
> Hello
> 
> Am new to this group.  I have rheumatoid arthritis and put it into 
> remission using minocin. But then after a few years the 
> minocin made me 
> sick. So am looking at safer ways to kill off the bad bacteria that I 
> think are causing my symptoms. Has anyone here has success using 
> colloidal silver for RA? if so at what dose?
> 
> Thanks
> Monique


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RE: CS>CS and RA, CG

[bob Larson]

...the generator for $300 must be the Ovo from Karl.
i dare you to find one genuine verifiable satisfied customer.
it's sooo easy to find people who've received nothing but empty promises
then silence for their money and are really pissed.
 
no, your CS generator won't do it.  you don't want ionic gold anyways.
it requires a high voltage power source to power a spark arc underwater and
a way to keep the spark going as the gold is consumed and gets shorter.  


  _  

From: Lena Guyot [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 11:41 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>CS and RA, CG


I'd really like to know about this too! I have a CS generator and am
wondering if gold wires, instead of silver, would do it. Can't really afford
a new, $300 gold generator that google showed me. 
Or, for that matter, what would happen if I put some flakes of pure gold
leaf into my distilled water before starting up a batch of CS with the
silver wires in place?


I'm doing well with CS, so this isn't an urgent matter, but always looking
to improve.


Be well,
Léna

On Jan 20, 2013, at 10:00 AM, André Juthe wrote:


But can you not just buy golden wires (instead of silver wires) and
attach those to the silvergen or whatever device you are using? Cannot
CG be made in the same way as CS?

/AJ

2013/1/20 bob Larson :


...CG is reputed to raise I.Q. while using it. notice anything?



beware purveyors of CG machines that never deliver anything unless forced


(in my personal experience and that of many others), and then nothing


worthwhile.  why the feds don't bust karl or at least shut him down is


testimony to WHAT?



unfortunately much of the CG offered for sale is said to be made by chemical


processes that can easily be done poorly and leave contaminants ... the CG


made by electrical arc methods  is probably best?






From: James McDonald [mailto:kscma...@yahoo.com]


Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 2:17 AM


To: silver-list@eskimo.com


Subject: Re: CS>CS and RA



We have been taking the CG for over 6 months now. Her RA has never been


better, I have a damaged spine and it only took 5 days for me to notice a


difference but took the wife almost two weeks to feel a difference but she


has! She can now stand up at work for the whole day and come home and not


collapse into bed! Her hips and joints do not hurt like they used to, she


tells me the pain level is down about 85%. She is very happy also that there


are no super nasty side effects unlike big pharms drugs(death is one of the


listed side effects!).







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Re: CS>Thyroid

[finplan65]

Oops-sorry for the repeat link-I did not read the next email before posting.



 From: Donna M Lewis 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 3:41 PM
Subject: RE: CS>Thyroid
 

Thyroid
Yep, it’s Levothyroxine a T4 only medication.  You will never get better on 
that.  They prescribe it on the basis that your body converts the T4 to T3 in 
your body and it does, but that’s not all you need.  The body naturally 
produces T4, T3 (and the body converts more T4 to T3 when it needs it), T2 T1 
and Calcitonin.  T4 medication does not address the T2, T1 and calcitonin.  No 
allopathic doctor or endocrinologist will medicate you so that your symptoms go 
away.  In fact you may be unlucky enough to have to eventually see the doctor 
because of depression, weight gain (that you simply cannot lose regardless of 
how well you eat and exercise), sluggishness – no energy, all over body aches 
(fibromyalgia/chronic fatigue syndrome) all of which you’ll be medicated for.  
 
I’ve already posted in another thread about this but if you want to read other 
people’s experiences, go to www.stopthethyroidmadness.com.
 
Donna
 
From:Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 11:14 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Thyroid
 
I have been tested and found to be low in thyroid and they have put me on 
something called thyroxin.  Does anyone have any experience with this?  Many 
thanks.   dee 

Re: CS>Thyroid

[finplan65]

Anyone with thyroid issues and questions must go to this 
forum:http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

It is the best by far for thyroid and adrenal patients-I am one and it has been 
invaluable to me.



 From: PT Ferrance 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Thyroid
 

At one point I was on something called levothyroxin.  I was told it was the 
generic of synthroid but I don't can't say for sure.  It didn't do much for me.
PT





From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 2:14:07 PM
Subject: CS>Thyroid

Thyroid I have been tested and found to be low in thyroid and they have put me 
on something called thyroxin.  Does anyone have any experience with this?  Many 
thanks.   dee 

Re: CS>Thyroid

[PT Ferrance]

At one point I was on something called levothyroxin.  I was told it was the 
generic of synthroid but I don't can't say for sure.  It didn't do much for me.
PT





From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 2:14:07 PM
Subject: CS>Thyroid

Thyroid I have been tested and found to be low in thyroid and they have put me 
on something called thyroxin.  Does anyone have any experience with this?  Many 
thanks.   dee 

RE: CS>Thyroid

[Donna M Lewis]

Yep, it's Levothyroxine a T4 only medication.  You will never get better on
that.  They prescribe it on the basis that your body converts the T4 to T3
in your body and it does, but that's not all you need.  The body naturally
produces T4, T3 (and the body converts more T4 to T3 when it needs it), T2
T1 and Calcitonin.  T4 medication does not address the T2, T1 and
calcitonin.  No allopathic doctor or endocrinologist will medicate you so
that your symptoms go away.  In fact you may be unlucky enough to have to
eventually see the doctor because of depression, weight gain (that you
simply cannot lose regardless of how well you eat and exercise),
sluggishness - no energy, all over body aches (fibromyalgia/chronic fatigue
syndrome) all of which you'll be medicated for.  

 

I've already posted in another thread about this but if you want to read
other people's experiences, go to www.stopthethyroidmadness.com.

 

Donna

 

From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 11:14 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Thyroid

 

I have been tested and found to be low in thyroid and they have put me on
something called thyroxin.  Does anyone have any experience with this?  Many
thanks.   dee 

Re: CS>CS and RA, CG

[Lena Guyot]

I'd really like to know about this too! I have a CS generator and am wondering 
if gold wires, instead of silver, would do it. Can't really afford a new, $300 
gold generator that google showed me.
Or, for that matter, what would happen if I put some flakes of pure gold leaf 
into my distilled water before starting up a batch of CS with the silver wires 
in place?

I'm doing well with CS, so this isn't an urgent matter, but always looking to 
improve.

Be well,
Léna
On Jan 20, 2013, at 10:00 AM, André Juthe wrote:

> But can you not just buy golden wires (instead of silver wires) and
> attach those to the silvergen or whatever device you are using? Cannot
> CG be made in the same way as CS?
> 
> /AJ
> 
> 2013/1/20 bob Larson :
>> ...CG is reputed to raise I.Q. while using it. notice anything?
>> 
>> beware purveyors of CG machines that never deliver anything unless forced
>> (in my personal experience and that of many others), and then nothing
>> worthwhile.  why the feds don't bust karl or at least shut him down is
>> testimony to WHAT?
>> 
>> unfortunately much of the CG offered for sale is said to be made by chemical
>> processes that can easily be done poorly and leave contaminants ... the CG
>> made by electrical arc methods  is probably best?
>> 
>> 
>> From: James McDonald [mailto:kscma...@yahoo.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 2:17 AM
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> Subject: Re: CS>CS and RA
>> 
>> We have been taking the CG for over 6 months now. Her RA has never been
>> better, I have a damaged spine and it only took 5 days for me to notice a
>> difference but took the wife almost two weeks to feel a difference but she
>> has! She can now stand up at work for the whole day and come home and not
>> collapse into bed! Her hips and joints do not hurt like they used to, she
>> tells me the pain level is down about 85%. She is very happy also that there
>> are no super nasty side effects unlike big pharms drugs(death is one of the
>> listed side effects!).
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: CS>CS and RA

[Monique Sauve]

Thanks James. Good to hear.  Do you make the CG yourself? if so what 
machine do you use? Or do you buy it and if so from where?  I don't know 
anything re the CG.

I am also curious if your wife tried CS before the CG?

Thanks
Monique


On 1/20/2013 2:17 AM, James McDonald wrote:
We have been taking the CG for over 6 months now. Her RA has never 
been better, I have a damaged spine and it only took 5 days for me to 
notice a difference but took the wife almost two weeks to feel a 
difference but she has! She can now stand up at work for the whole day 
and come home and not collapse into bed! Her hips and joints do not 
hurt like they used to, she tells me the pain level is down about 85%. 
She is very happy also that there are no super nasty side effects 
unlike big pharms drugs(death is one of the listed side effects!).




*From:* Monique Sauve 
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Friday, January 18, 2013 10:49 PM
*Subject:* Re: CS>CS and RA

Hi Can you tell me more about the colloidal gold. How long has your 
wife been taking it? Is she doing other things as well?


Thanks so much for your help
Monique
On 1/18/2013 6:53 PM, James McDonald wrote:
My wife is using Colloidal Gold(CG) 10mg every other day, it has 
worked wonders andf dropped her pain and joint discomfort level about 85%




*From:* Monique Sauve  


*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com 
*Sent:* Friday, January 18, 2013 8:18 PM
*Subject:* CS>CS and RA

Hello

Am new to this group.  I have rheumatoid arthritis and put it into 
remission using minocin. But then after a few years the minocin made 
me sick. So am looking at safer ways to kill off the bad bacteria 
that I think are causing my symptoms. Has anyone here has success 
using colloidal silver for RA? if so at what dose?


Thanks
Monique


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CS>Thyroid

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I have been tested and found to be low in thyroid and they have put me on
something called thyroxin.  Does anyone have any experience with this?  Many
thanks.   dee

Re: CS>CS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

[PT Ferrance]

But don't you need a prescription for it?
PT





From: bob Larson 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 12:10:42 PM
Subject: RE: CS>CS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID


the zapper is worth a try but don't waste a lot of time  with it.
 
if you get onto a couple LDN yahoo groups and put  "hashimoto" into the search 
function of groups "Files" area and message archives you will quickly see that 
LDN often oiver time reduces or eliminates the  need for thyroid meds while 
correcting lots of things often unanticipated or  previously unknown.

LDN for:
 
cancer
lupus
psoriasis
thyroid
RA
MS
dementia (helps my mom immensely, like turning back the  clock a couple years.
fibro
crohn's
IBS
UC
etc, etc, etc.
 
super safe, non-toxic, cheap, and available with a long and  growing history of 
saving & improving lives.
 
 


 From: aslra...@gmail.com[mailto:aslra...@gmail.com] 
>Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 8:44AM
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Subject: Re: CS>CS andRA
>
>
>Hi PT, 
>Thanks for sharing your experience in using the zppaer to cureHashimoto's. 
>I have Hashimoto's thyroid disease myself and have been searching highand 
>low for a cure
>for it to no avail- I want to be drug-free but it hasn't happenedyet. 
>I'm trying to understand how the zapper works exactly because I amseverely 
>disabled (coma-like naps for 8 to 9 hours a day) when I get off of my
>thyroid 
>medicine. How did you tolerate the reduction of medicine dosages...doctors 
>are not that supportive to get constant TSH blood lab test on frequent
>basis 
>(due to insurance). How did you avoid they hyperthyroid symptoms? 
>What zapper did you use, how many times did you use it per day, and what
>cost 
>is it. Does health insurance cover this device?  
>Do you still have to use the zapper to keep the Hashi symptoms atbay? 
>
>
>I would really love to learn more as I'd so want to get off of the drugs
>and 
>be healthy again. 
>
>
>Kindly, 
>
>
>RaVen  
>
>
>
>
>On Jan 20, 2013, at 9:27 AM, PT Ferrance wrote:
>
>
>I was told I had thyroid nodules indicative of Hashimoto's which is  
>autoimmune also.  I used the zapper for 3 weeks and no longer needed  the 
>medication.  I wonder if the doctors really understand what  autoimmune 
>means or if they just use it for a way to get people on  medication, lab 
>tests and coming back for monitoring!
>>Just my  experience.
>>PT
>>
>>
>>
>>

 From: bob Larson 
>>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>>Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 1:18:27  AM
>>Subject: RE: CS>CS  and RA
>>
>>try CS + LDN together.
>>
>>both provide broad immune  support; CS kills directly also. 
>>RA is (usually?) an autoimmune issue  & that's what LDN excels at.
>>
>>> -Original  Message-
>>> From: Monique Sauve [mailto:moniquesa...@shaw.ca] 
>>>  Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 5:18 PM
>>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>>>  Subject: CS>CS and RA
>>> 
>>> Hello
>>> 
>>> Am new to  this group.  I have rheumatoid arthritis and put it into 
>>>  remission using minocin. But then after a few years the 
>>> minocin  made me 
>>> sick. So am looking at safer ways to kill off the bad  bacteria that I 
>>> think are causing my symptoms. Has anyone here has  success using 
>>> colloidal silver for RA? if so at what dose?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Monique
>>
>>
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Re: CS>CS and RA

[PT Ferrance]

I forgot to mention that I put it on at night when I go to bed and take it off 
in the morning.
PT





From: "aslra...@gmail.com" 
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 11:44:59 AM
Subject: Re: CS>CS and RA


Hi PT, 
Thanks for sharing your experience in using the zppaer to cure Hashimoto's. 
I have Hashimoto's thyroid disease myself and have been searching high and low 
for a cure
for it to no avail- I want to be drug-free but it hasn't happened yet. 
I'm trying to understand how the zapper works exactly because I am severely 
disabled (coma-like naps for 8 to 9 hours a day) when I get off of my thyroid 
medicine. How did you tolerate the reduction of medicine dosages... doctors are 
not that supportive to get constant TSH blood lab test on frequent basis (due 
to 
insurance). How did you avoid they hyperthyroid symptoms?  
What zapper did you use, how many times did you use it per day, and what cost 
is 
it. Does health insurance cover this device?  
Do you still have to use the zapper to keep the Hashi symptoms at bay? 

I would really love to learn more as I'd so want to get off of the drugs and be 
healthy again. 

Kindly, 

RaVen  



On Jan 20, 2013, at 9:27 AM, PT Ferrance  wrote:


I was told I had thyroid nodules indicative of Hashimoto's which is autoimmune 
also.  I used the zapper for 3 weeks and no longer needed the medication.  I 
wonder if the doctors really understand what autoimmune means or if they just 
use it for a way to get people on medication, lab tests and coming back for 
monitoring!
>Just my experience.
>PT
>
>
>
>

From: bob Larson 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 1:18:27  AM
>Subject: RE: CS>CS and RA
>
>try CS + LDN together.
>
>both provide broad immune support; CS kills directly also. 
>RA is (usually?) an autoimmune issue & that's what LDN excels at.
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Monique Sauve [mailto:moniquesa...@shaw.ca] 
>> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 5:18 PM
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> Subject: CS>CS and RA
>> 
>> Hello
>> 
>> Am new to this group.  I have rheumatoid arthritis and put it into 
>> remission using minocin. But then after a few years the 
>> minocin made me 
>> sick. So am looking at safer ways to kill off the bad bacteria that I 
>> think are causing my symptoms. Has anyone here has success using 
>> colloidal silver for RA? if so at what dose?
>> 
>>  Thanks
>> Monique
>
>
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Re: CS>CS and RA

[PT Ferrance]

First, I manage fibromyalgia and thyroid tests for people with fibro are 
notably 
unreliable so I have stopped paying attention to them for a long time.  I only 
started using the Z4eX zapper the end of the year.  My body started rejecting 
the T3 by behaving like it was getting to much... and this happened basically 
overnight.  I don't know how long it will last.  I'm grateful for not needing 
it 
now.

I used the Z4eX zapper which I purchased on ebay.  I use self-adhesive 
electrode 
pads and put them on my feet. 


Since every body is different I cannot tell you that you will have the same 
results but the zapper is inexpensive compared to other things like drugs so I 
felt it was a good investment.  There is a yahoo group for zapping called 
microelectricity germ killers.

Good luck.
PT





From: "aslra...@gmail.com" 
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 11:44:59 AM
Subject: Re: CS>CS and RA


Hi PT, 
Thanks for sharing your experience in using the zppaer to cure Hashimoto's. 
I have Hashimoto's thyroid disease myself and have been searching high and low 
for a cure
for it to no avail- I want to be drug-free but it hasn't happened yet. 
I'm trying to understand how the zapper works exactly because I am severely 
disabled (coma-like naps for 8 to 9 hours a day) when I get off of my thyroid 
medicine. How did you tolerate the reduction of medicine dosages... doctors are 
not that supportive to get constant TSH blood lab test on frequent basis (due 
to 
insurance). How did you avoid they hyperthyroid symptoms?  
What zapper did you use, how many times did you use it per day, and what cost 
is 
it. Does health insurance cover this device?  
Do you still have to use the zapper to keep the Hashi symptoms at bay? 

I would really love to learn more as I'd so want to get off of the drugs and be 
healthy again. 

Kindly, 

RaVen  



On Jan 20, 2013, at 9:27 AM, PT Ferrance  wrote:


I was told I had thyroid nodules indicative of Hashimoto's which is autoimmune 
also.  I used the zapper for 3 weeks and no longer needed the medication.  I 
wonder if the doctors really understand what autoimmune means or if they just 
use it for a way to get people on medication, lab tests and coming back for 
monitoring!
>Just my experience.
>PT
>
>
>
>

From: bob Larson 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 1:18:27  AM
>Subject: RE: CS>CS and RA
>
>try CS + LDN together.
>
>both provide broad immune support; CS kills directly also. 
>RA is (usually?) an autoimmune issue & that's what LDN excels at.
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Monique Sauve [mailto:moniquesa...@shaw.ca] 
>> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 5:18 PM
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> Subject: CS>CS and RA
>> 
>> Hello
>> 
>> Am new to this group.  I have rheumatoid arthritis and put it into 
>> remission using minocin. But then after a few years the 
>> minocin made me 
>> sick. So am looking at safer ways to kill off the bad bacteria that I 
>> think are causing my symptoms. Has anyone here has success using 
>> colloidal silver for RA? if so at what dose?
>> 
>>  Thanks
>> Monique
>
>
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Re: CS>CS and RA

[Paul]

Google tong ren for thyroid issue. It's something u can do free online. Worth a 
try 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 20, 2013, at 11:44 AM, aslra...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi PT, 
> Thanks for sharing your experience in using the zppaer to cure Hashimoto's. 
> I have Hashimoto's thyroid disease myself and have been searching high and 
> low for a cure
> for it to no avail- I want to be drug-free but it hasn't happened yet. 
> I'm trying to understand how the zapper works exactly because I am severely 
> disabled (coma-like naps for 8 to 9 hours a day) when I get off of my thyroid 
> medicine. How did you tolerate the reduction of medicine dosages... doctors 
> are not that supportive to get constant TSH blood lab test on frequent basis 
> (due to insurance). How did you avoid they hyperthyroid symptoms?  
> What zapper did you use, how many times did you use it per day, and what cost 
> is it. Does health insurance cover this device?  
> Do you still have to use the zapper to keep the Hashi symptoms at bay? 
> 
> I would really love to learn more as I'd so want to get off of the drugs and 
> be healthy again. 
> 
> Kindly, 
> 
> RaVen  
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 20, 2013, at 9:27 AM, PT Ferrance  wrote:
> 
>> I was told I had thyroid nodules indicative of Hashimoto's which is 
>> autoimmune also.  I used the zapper for 3 weeks and no longer needed the 
>> medication.  I wonder if the doctors really understand what autoimmune means 
>> or if they just use it for a way to get people on medication, lab tests and 
>> coming back for monitoring!
>> Just my experience.
>> PT
>> 
>> From: bob Larson 
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 1:18:27 AM
>> Subject: RE: CS>CS and RA
>> 
>> try CS + LDN together.
>> 
>> both provide broad immune support; CS kills directly also. 
>> RA is (usually?) an autoimmune issue & that's what LDN excels at.
>> 
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Monique Sauve [mailto:moniquesa...@shaw.ca] 
>> > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 5:18 PM
>> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> > Subject: CS>CS and RA
>> > 
>> > Hello
>> > 
>> > Am new to this group.  I have rheumatoid arthritis and put it into 
>> > remission using minocin. But then after a few years the 
>> > minocin made me 
>> > sick. So am looking at safer ways to kill off the bad bacteria that I 
>> > think are causing my symptoms. Has anyone here has success using 
>> > colloidal silver for RA? if so at what dose?
>> > 
>> > Thanks
>> > Monique
>> 
>> 
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RE: CS>CS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

[bob Larson]

the zapper is worth a try but don't waste a lot of time with it.
 
if you get onto a couple LDN yahoo groups and put "hashimoto" into the
search function of groups "Files" area and message archives you will quickly
see that LDN often oiver time reduces or eliminates the need for thyroid
meds while correcting lots of things often unanticipated or previously
unknown.

LDN for:
 
cancer
lupus
psoriasis
thyroid
RA
MS
dementia (helps my mom immensely, like turning back the clock a couple
years.
fibro
crohn's
IBS
UC
etc, etc, etc.
 
super safe, non-toxic, cheap, and available with a long and growing history
of saving & improving lives.
 
 

  _  

From: aslra...@gmail.com [mailto:aslra...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 8:44 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>CS and RA


Hi PT, 
Thanks for sharing your experience in using the zppaer to cure Hashimoto's. 
I have Hashimoto's thyroid disease myself and have been searching high and
low for a cure
for it to no avail- I want to be drug-free but it hasn't happened yet. 
I'm trying to understand how the zapper works exactly because I am severely
disabled (coma-like naps for 8 to 9 hours a day) when I get off of my
thyroid medicine. How did you tolerate the reduction of medicine dosages...
doctors are not that supportive to get constant TSH blood lab test on
frequent basis (due to insurance). How did you avoid they hyperthyroid
symptoms?  
What zapper did you use, how many times did you use it per day, and what
cost is it. Does health insurance cover this device?  
Do you still have to use the zapper to keep the Hashi symptoms at bay? 

I would really love to learn more as I'd so want to get off of the drugs and
be healthy again. 

Kindly, 

RaVen  



On Jan 20, 2013, at 9:27 AM, PT Ferrance  wrote:



I was told I had thyroid nodules indicative of Hashimoto's which is
autoimmune also.  I used the zapper for 3 weeks and no longer needed the
medication.  I wonder if the doctors really understand what autoimmune means
or if they just use it for a way to get people on medication, lab tests and
coming back for monitoring!
Just my experience.
PT



  _  

From: bob Larson 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 1:18:27 AM
Subject: RE: CS>CS and RA

try CS + LDN together.

both provide broad immune support; CS kills directly also. 
RA is (usually?) an autoimmune issue & that's what LDN excels at.

> -Original Message-
> From: Monique Sauve [mailto:moniquesa...@shaw.ca] 
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 5:18 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>CS and RA
> 
> Hello
> 
> Am new to this group.  I have rheumatoid arthritis and put it into 
> remission using minocin. But then after a few years the 
> minocin made me 
> sick. So am looking at safer ways to kill off the bad bacteria that I 
> think are causing my symptoms. Has anyone here has success using 
> colloidal silver for RA? if so at what dose?
> 
> Thanks
> Monique


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Re: CS>CS and RA

[aslraven]

Hi PT, 
Thanks for sharing your experience in using the zppaer to cure Hashimoto's. 
I have Hashimoto's thyroid disease myself and have been searching high and low 
for a cure
for it to no avail- I want to be drug-free but it hasn't happened yet. 
I'm trying to understand how the zapper works exactly because I am severely 
disabled (coma-like naps for 8 to 9 hours a day) when I get off of my thyroid 
medicine. How did you tolerate the reduction of medicine dosages... doctors are 
not that supportive to get constant TSH blood lab test on frequent basis (due 
to insurance). How did you avoid they hyperthyroid symptoms?  
What zapper did you use, how many times did you use it per day, and what cost 
is it. Does health insurance cover this device?  
Do you still have to use the zapper to keep the Hashi symptoms at bay? 

I would really love to learn more as I'd so want to get off of the drugs and be 
healthy again. 

Kindly, 

RaVen  



On Jan 20, 2013, at 9:27 AM, PT Ferrance  wrote:

> I was told I had thyroid nodules indicative of Hashimoto's which is 
> autoimmune also.  I used the zapper for 3 weeks and no longer needed the 
> medication.  I wonder if the doctors really understand what autoimmune means 
> or if they just use it for a way to get people on medication, lab tests and 
> coming back for monitoring!
> Just my experience.
> PT
> 
> From: bob Larson 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 1:18:27 AM
> Subject: RE: CS>CS and RA
> 
> try CS + LDN together.
> 
> both provide broad immune support; CS kills directly also. 
> RA is (usually?) an autoimmune issue & that's what LDN excels at.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Monique Sauve [mailto:moniquesa...@shaw.ca] 
> > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 5:18 PM
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Subject: CS>CS and RA
> > 
> > Hello
> > 
> > Am new to this group.  I have rheumatoid arthritis and put it into 
> > remission using minocin. But then after a few years the 
> > minocin made me 
> > sick. So am looking at safer ways to kill off the bad bacteria that I 
> > think are causing my symptoms. Has anyone here has success using 
> > colloidal silver for RA? if so at what dose?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Monique
> 
> 
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Re: CS>CS and RA

[PT Ferrance]

I was told I had thyroid nodules indicative of Hashimoto's which is autoimmune 
also.  I used the zapper for 3 weeks and no longer needed the medication.  I 
wonder if the doctors really understand what autoimmune means or if they just 
use it for a way to get people on medication, lab tests and coming back for 
monitoring!
Just my experience.
PT





From: bob Larson 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 1:18:27 AM
Subject: RE: CS>CS and RA

try CS + LDN together.

both provide broad immune support; CS kills directly also. 
RA is (usually?) an autoimmune issue & that's what LDN excels at.

> -Original Message-
> From: Monique Sauve [mailto:moniquesa...@shaw.ca] 
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 5:18 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>CS and RA
> 
> Hello
> 
> Am new to this group.  I have rheumatoid arthritis and put it into 
> remission using minocin. But then after a few years the 
> minocin made me 
> sick. So am looking at safer ways to kill off the bad bacteria that I 
> think are causing my symptoms. Has anyone here has success using 
> colloidal silver for RA? if so at what dose?
> 
> Thanks
> Monique


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Re: CS>CS and RA, CG

[André Juthe]

But can you not just buy golden wires (instead of silver wires) and
attach those to the silvergen or whatever device you are using? Cannot
CG be made in the same way as CS?

/AJ

2013/1/20 bob Larson :
> ...CG is reputed to raise I.Q. while using it. notice anything?
>
> beware purveyors of CG machines that never deliver anything unless forced
> (in my personal experience and that of many others), and then nothing
> worthwhile.  why the feds don't bust karl or at least shut him down is
> testimony to WHAT?
>
> unfortunately much of the CG offered for sale is said to be made by chemical
> processes that can easily be done poorly and leave contaminants ... the CG
> made by electrical arc methods  is probably best?
>
> 
> From: James McDonald [mailto:kscma...@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 2:17 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>CS and RA
>
> We have been taking the CG for over 6 months now. Her RA has never been
> better, I have a damaged spine and it only took 5 days for me to notice a
> difference but took the wife almost two weeks to feel a difference but she
> has! She can now stand up at work for the whole day and come home and not
> collapse into bed! Her hips and joints do not hurt like they used to, she
> tells me the pain level is down about 85%. She is very happy also that there
> are no super nasty side effects unlike big pharms drugs(death is one of the
> listed side effects!).
>
>
>


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Re: CS>CS and RA

[André Juthe]

Two questions,

have your tried ordinary CS without any similar results?

Where can you buy goldwires ( I assume you make CG in the same way as CS)?

/AJ

2013/1/20 James McDonald :
> We have been taking the CG for over 6 months now. Her RA has never been
> better, I have a damaged spine and it only took 5 days for me to notice a
> difference but took the wife almost two weeks to feel a difference but she
> has! She can now stand up at work for the whole day and come home and not
> collapse into bed! Her hips and joints do not hurt like they used to, she
> tells me the pain level is down about 85%. She is very happy also that there
> are no super nasty side effects unlike big pharms drugs(death is one of the
> listed side effects!).
>
>
> 
> From: Monique Sauve 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 10:49 PM
>
> Subject: Re: CS>CS and RA
>
> Hi Can you tell me more about the colloidal gold. How long has your wife
> been taking it? Is she doing other things as well?
>
> Thanks so much for your help
> Monique
> On 1/18/2013 6:53 PM, James McDonald wrote:
>
> My wife is using Colloidal Gold(CG) 10mg every other day, it has worked
> wonders andf dropped her pain and joint discomfort level about 85%
>
>
> 
> From: Monique Sauve 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 8:18 PM
> Subject: CS>CS and RA
>
> Hello
>
> Am new to this group.  I have rheumatoid arthritis and put it into remission
> using minocin. But then after a few years the minocin made me sick. So am
> looking at safer ways to kill off the bad bacteria that I think are causing
> my symptoms. Has anyone here has success using colloidal silver for RA? if
> so at what dose?
>
> Thanks
> Monique
>
>
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CS>CS and RA, CG

[bob Larson]

...CG is reputed to raise I.Q. while using it. notice anything?
 
beware purveyors of CG machines that never deliver anything unless forced
(in my personal experience and that of many others), and then nothing
worthwhile.  why the feds don't bust karl or at least shut him down is
testimony to WHAT? 
 
unfortunately much of the CG offered for sale is said to be made by chemical
processes that can easily be done poorly and leave contaminants ... the CG
made by electrical arc methods  is probably best?


  _  

From: James McDonald [mailto:kscma...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 2:17 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>CS and RA


We have been taking the CG for over 6 months now. Her RA has never been
better, I have a damaged spine and it only took 5 days for me to notice a
difference but took the wife almost two weeks to feel a difference but she
has! She can now stand up at work for the whole day and come home and not
collapse into bed! Her hips and joints do not hurt like they used to, she
tells me the pain level is down about 85%. She is very happy also that there
are no super nasty side effects unlike big pharms drugs(death is one of the
listed side effects!). 




 

Re: CS>Vit C

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I get mine (sodium ascorbate) from iHerb.  It is a NOW foods product ­ very
reasonable.  dee



From: Paul Steel 
Reply-To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 13:35:57 -0800 (PST)
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Subject: Re: CS>Vit C
Resent-From: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 13:35:57 -0800

I get my vit c from here

http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/
 
Paul Steel
h 508.520.6905
c 508.922.0519
The harder you work the luckier you get!
 

  
 
 
  

  From: Kathy Tankersley 
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 12:35 PM
 Subject: CS>Vit C
  
 
Hello, I am looking for a good Vit C to use, anyone out  have a good one
that you use?
 


 
 
  

Re: CS>CS and RA

[James McDonald]

We have been taking the CG for over 6 months now. Her RA has never been better, 
I have a damaged spine and it only took 5 days for me to notice a difference 
but took the wife almost two weeks to feel a difference but she has! She can 
now stand up at work for the whole day and come home and not collapse into bed! 
Her hips and joints do not hurt like they used to, she tells me the pain level 
is down about 85%. She is very happy also that there are no super nasty side 
effects unlike big pharms drugs(death is one of the listed side effects!). 





 From: Monique Sauve 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: CS>CS and RA
 

Hi Can you tell me more about the colloidal gold. How long has your wife been 
taking it? Is she doing other things as well?

Thanks so much for your help
Monique

On 1/18/2013 6:53 PM, James McDonald wrote:

My wife is using Colloidal Gold(CG) 10mg every other day, it has worked wonders 
andf dropped her pain and joint discomfort level about 85%
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Monique Sauve 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
>Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 8:18 PM
>Subject: CS>CS and RA
> 
>Hello
>
>Am new to this group.  I have rheumatoid arthritis and put
it into remission using minocin. But then after a few years
the minocin made me sick. So am looking at safer ways to
kill off the bad bacteria that I think are causing my
symptoms. Has anyone here has success using colloidal silver
for RA? if so at what dose?
>
>Thanks
>Monique
>
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