Re: CSWater in storage.

2014-10-20 Thread Dee
If it has silver in it germs can't survive however long it is there...dee

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 On 19 Oct 2014, at 22:47, ASL raVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 How do you know the water (in whatever form you get it from - distilled, tap 
 or spring water) --- with CS is still good? Do you use a litmus strip or 
 something? 
 I've had quite a few food poisoning in the past and so a bit on the 
 hyperviligant side when it comes to old drinks or old food.   
 
 On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Harold har...@telus.net wrote:
 Because there was a fright re Earthquakes in this area,[approx. 30 years 
 ago],over a short time I gradually stored approx. 40 gallons of tap water in 
 plastic 1 gal.;4 litre,and some glass  jugs,and wine bottles.On occasion  I 
 would take a sample out of a jug,and taste it.The chlorine had long ago 
 worked out of it.There was no difference in taste or appearance from the day 
 it was stored.Lately I have taken a jug,distilled it ,made , CS/EIS,no 
 problem.If water would go bad in storage,how is it that water from deep 
 Artesian wells that are millions of years old are being tapped for good 
 water? Prior to moving here in 1978,I had rural property,and a deep well 
 into an underground spring gave perfect water[tested].The water out of the 
 tap now, is taken off in pails and let sit for a day to let the chlorine 
 work out,then distilled for CS/EIS.
  
 Be well all,
  
 Harold
  
 Ps,I still keep that water in reserve,just in case.
 
 
 
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Re: CSConundrum

2014-10-20 Thread Dee
No I don't have a filter and the TDS meter reads nought on my distilled water 
and reads the correct numbers once the CS is made, so I don't think the 
distiller is at fault.  The TDS meter also reads over 300 on tap water and 200 
on filtered tap water, so I think it's as accurate as its limitations 
allowdee

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 Subject: Re: CSRe: Conundrum
 From: Dee d...@deetroy.org
 
 
  I make the distilled water myself and it has a 0 reading with my TDS 
  meter. 
 
 Three thoughts...
 
 1. Are you using a charcoal or similar 'post-filter' on your distiller? If 
 so, remove it. They add particles that will be visible in the laser.
 
 2. Your distiller is faulty. Possibly its deteriorating inside the outlet 
 pipe. Or its gunked inside the outlet pipe and its coming out into the 
 distilled water. 
 
 3. Yes, your making jar needs a real good clean. Try pouring your distilled 
 water into a nice clean drinking glass and lasering it.
 
   I wouldn't have thought there would be enough particles left to cause a 
  Tyndall effect though...dee
 
 A few sparkles would not be unusual but a continuous solid laser line is a 
 little unusual I would think.
 
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Re: CSConundrum

2014-10-20 Thread Dee
I will try what you suggested though...dee

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 Subject: Re: CSRe: Conundrum
 From: Dee d...@deetroy.org
 
 
  I make the distilled water myself and it has a 0 reading with my TDS 
  meter. 
 
 Three thoughts...
 
 1. Are you using a charcoal or similar 'post-filter' on your distiller? If 
 so, remove it. They add particles that will be visible in the laser.
 
 2. Your distiller is faulty. Possibly its deteriorating inside the outlet 
 pipe. Or its gunked inside the outlet pipe and its coming out into the 
 distilled water. 
 
 3. Yes, your making jar needs a real good clean. Try pouring your distilled 
 water into a nice clean drinking glass and lasering it.
 
   I wouldn't have thought there would be enough particles left to cause a 
  Tyndall effect though...dee
 
 A few sparkles would not be unusual but a continuous solid laser line is a 
 little unusual I would think.
 
 David
 
 
 
 
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CSCS and constipation

2014-10-20 Thread Dee
Has anyone ever heard of CS causing constipation? dee

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Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2014 #226

2014-10-20 Thread Dee
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Re: CSRe: Conundrum

2014-10-20 Thread Dee
Thank you for your reply Malcolm, I do leave the distilled water for days and 
sometimes weeks before making the CS as I don't make much, only the odd 500ml 
which lasts me a fair time.  Sorry to be a pain...dee

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 On 19 Oct 2014, at 21:51, Malcolm s...@asis.com wrote:
 
 Hi Dee,
 Sorry; I didn't do a very good job of generalizing the whole idea.
 Here's what I suspect just might be happening in this particular case;
 when you make your distilled water perhaps some air becomes entrained -
 not hard to do when you boil water.  As this water cools, there may be a
 tendency for this entrained air to come out of solution and the
 microscopic bubbles could reflect just like any other particle giving
 you the Tyndall scatter.  Try letting the distilled water sit for a
 while, meaning hours or a day.  See if you get bubbles forming on the
 container sides.  The conductivity will increase a tiny bit due to the
 absorption of CO2 from the air over that time forming H2CO3, carbonic
 acid.  As a side note, distilled water from the store has sometimes had
 hydrogen peroxide added to it, H2O2, and the extra O will come out as
 above, leaving behind - H2O!~ tricky, huh?  Why do they do it?  Perhaps
 some added insurance against infection?  Who can say?
 
 On Sun, 2014-10-19 at 21:02 +0100, Dee wrote:
 Ours comes from the mains water, but the tap water isn't the problem, that 
 shows no Tyndall, it was the distilled water that did...dee
 
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 On 19 Oct 2014, at 19:10, Malcolm s...@asis.com wrote:
 
 Hi Dee, there's another possibility here; I don't know how your water is
 delivered to your faucet, but one thing that can happen is that a little
 air gets entrained into it, and as the pressure is released going from
 your plumbing into a container, the air is released as microscopic
 bubbles.  These are not the ones you see on the sides of a container
 after you let the container stand - which are far from microscopic
 anyway.  Rather they can make the water even seem cloudy, though the
 effect dissipates, and even begins to form into those much larger ones
 that collect on the container's surface.
 Just a thought,  Malcolm
 
 On Sun, 2014-10-19 at 11:02 +0100, Dee wrote:
 I make the distilled water myself and it has a 0 reading with my TDS
 meter.  The tap water has a reading of over 300.  The only thing might
 be, that I poured the distilled water into the jar which I make the CS
 in, without cleaning it out first as I thought this unnecessary.  I
 wouldn't have thought there would be enough particles left to cause a
 Tyndall effect though...dee
 
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 On 19 Oct 2014, at 00:54, Debra  David alch...@kern.com.au wrote:
 
 
 The answer is simple. Neither your tap water nor your distilled
 water is pure. Mains filtration plants are very good at removing
 particles, hence you will often see no laser line. On the other hand
 it probably still contains plenty of dissolved salts (invisible to a
 laser) so if you used a meter in the mains water you would get a
 significant reading.
 
 If your distilled water is displaying a laser line it contains fine
 particles, so its either not distilled in the first place or its
 being contaminated after distilling. Unless your glass jar is
 obviously unclean its not likely to add significant particles to the
 water. 
 
 David
 
 
 
 
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 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 7:02 AM
 Subject: CSConundrum
 
 I shone a laser through my distilled water and I got a distinct
 Tyndall effect, just the same as I get through my finished CS.  Can
 anyone explain this? If I shine it through tap water there is
 nothing...dee
 
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RE: CSCS and constipation

2014-10-20 Thread Neville
No, I haven't personally, but here's my theory...
Food poisoning/diarrehea for example - ingest silver, the baddies die and the 
runs stops, the motion becomes firmer and starts to return to normal.
Ingestion of too much silver in an effort to kill the baddies could promote the 
destruction of some friendly flora also, hence the food will not be broken down 
during the digestive processes adequately, this then would result in the motion 
possibly becoming firmer still {cheeks may become flushed and the eyes may 
bulge under the strain g}.
Ingestion of too much silver under normal circumstances/conditions and the 
friendly flora may be practically wiped out, this then would result in 
dramatically reduced digestive processes/activity resulting in constipation for 
no apparent or obvious reason.
How's that?  Sound feasible? g.
N.

 From: d...@deetroy.org
 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 08:36:51 +0100
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSCS and constipation
 
 Has anyone ever heard of CS causing constipation? dee
 
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Re: CSCS and constipation

2014-10-20 Thread Ron

Haha! Good one Neville.
Actually it does sound feasible.
Ron

On 10/20/2014 3:22 AM, Neville wrote:

No, I haven't personally, but here's my theory...

Food poisoning/diarrehea for example - ingest silver, the baddies die 
and the runs stops, the motion becomes firmer and starts to return 
to normal.


Ingestion of too much silver in an effort to kill the baddies could 
promote the destruction of some friendly flora also, hence the food 
will not be broken down during the digestive processes adequately, 
this then would result in the motion possibly becoming firmer still 
{cheeks may become flushed and the eyes may bulge under the strain g}.


Ingestion of too much silver under normal circumstances/conditions and 
the friendly flora may be practically wiped out, this then would 
result in dramatically reduced digestive processes/activity resulting 
in constipation for no apparent or obvious reason.


How's that?  Sound feasible? g.

N.

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 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 08:36:51 +0100
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSCS and constipation

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Re: CSEmergency Items: What Will Disappear First | Ready Nutrition

2014-10-20 Thread Olushola Camara
It's the parents responsibility, not the schools

Olushola

On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote:

 Crappy schoolbooks dumbing down all public schools, Dubya, hospital snafu
 about Ebola patient: thanks a lot, Texas!

 On Oct 18, 2014, at 9:43 AM, RaVen wrote:

 This is fantastic information from Ready Nutrition, thanks, TJ for passing
 this helpful guide along.
 One of the challenge I find in storing food for emergency is that I'm
 celiac -so can't have any gluten - plus no dairy, no soy and soy lecithin,
 etc.
 I got to look up foods that has grass fed protein that won't spoil.


 On Oct 18, 2014, at 7:12 AM, TJ Garland ironguard...@gmail.com wrote:

 Better a week early than a day late.

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Re: CSEmergency Items: What Will Disappear First | Ready Nutrition

2014-10-20 Thread Olushola Camara
Clean water is a hard one to solve. Filtering is a partial solution, there
are always residues of the contaminates left. Given the stuff that is
poured down the drain, it is very difficult to remove everything. I think
one has a better chance starting with rain water instead of tap water, as
rain water contain far less contaminates. There's an excellent yahoo group
( rainwaterharvest...@yahoogroups.com ) on rain water harvesting. In some
places it is illegal to collect rainwater, so check the laws in your area.

When looking for a water filter, make sure it has an NSF certification.
There are hundreds of filters in the market place and many do not performed
as stated (what else is new). An NSF certificate ensure that the filter
performs as stated.The following is some information about NSF.

http://www.certifiedwaterfilters.com/whatisnsf.htm

Distinguishing Between Certified  Non-Certified Water Filters

One of the main purposes of the NSF *International* Drinking Water
Treatment Unit Certification Program is to assure that a drinking water
treatment system performs in the marketplace as tested and certified by NSF
...


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Benefits of NSF Certification

No other independent testing programs require companies to comply with the
strict standards imposed by NSF and its product certification programs.
From extensive product testing and material analyses to unannounced plant
inspections, NSF is the only third-party testing organization to undertake
a complete evaluation of every aspect of a product's development before it
can earn our certification...

On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 1:24 AM, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was taught that Multipure's filters are the best made, American made,
 NSF-Certified, and reduce more contaminants than the others.

 NSF Certification

 Recognized by regulatory agencies at the local, state, federal and
 international level, NSF certification demonstrates that a product complies
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 product testing to verify that the product continues to comply with the
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 NSF’s programs include testing and certifying drinking water treatment
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Re: CSCS and constipation

2014-10-20 Thread Theresa
Good bacteria chilled by antibiotics causes diarrhea not constipation so I 
don't think CS would cause constipation. 
Theresa

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 On Oct 20, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Ron ron@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Haha! Good one Neville.
 Actually it does sound feasible.
 Ron
 
 On 10/20/2014 3:22 AM, Neville wrote:
 No, I haven't personally, but here's my theory...
 
 Food poisoning/diarrehea for example - ingest silver, the baddies die and 
 the runs stops, the motion becomes firmer and starts to return to normal.
 
 Ingestion of too much silver in an effort to kill the baddies could promote 
 the destruction of some friendly flora also, hence the food will not be 
 broken down during the digestive processes adequately, this then would 
 result in the motion possibly becoming firmer still {cheeks may become 
 flushed and the eyes may bulge under the strain g}.
 
 Ingestion of too much silver under normal circumstances/conditions and the 
 friendly flora may be practically wiped out, this then would result in 
 dramatically reduced digestive processes/activity resulting in constipation 
 for no apparent or obvious reason.
 
 How's that?  Sound feasible? g.
 
 N.
 
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Re: CSCS and constipation

2014-10-20 Thread Tony Moody
Hallo Dee, 

I have on various occasions experienced both mild runs and mild constipation , 
not both at 
the same time and not sequentially. Doesn't last long before it is back to 
normal, 24 hours 
max in my experience. My thoughts is that the gut bacteria get upset by the EIS 
and there is 
a reaction one way or the other. Nevilles explanation fits one way , the other 
way could be 
that with all the compromised biology the body urges to get rid of what ever is 
not wanted. 

ymmv,
Tony
 

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Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2014 #226

2014-10-20 Thread sol

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Re: CSCS and constipation

2014-10-20 Thread Alan Faulkner
Diarrhea is generally a defence mechanism of the body to dispel some sort of 
baddie.

Alan

On 2014-10-20, at 03:22 AM, Neville wrote:

No, I haven't personally, but here's my theory...

Food poisoning/diarrehea for example - ingest silver, the baddies die and the 
runs stops, the motion becomes firmer and starts to return to normal.

Ingestion of too much silver in an effort to kill the baddies could promote the 
destruction of some friendly flora also, hence the food will not be broken down 
during the digestive processes adequately, this then would result in the motion 
possibly becoming firmer still {cheeks may become flushed and the eyes may 
bulge under the strain g}.

Ingestion of too much silver under normal circumstances/conditions and the 
friendly flora may be practically wiped out, this then would result in 
dramatically reduced digestive processes/activity resulting in constipation for 
no apparent or obvious reason.

How's that?  Sound feasible? g.

N.

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Re: CSCS and constipation

2014-10-20 Thread PT Ferrance
CS constipates me every time... even at only a mouthful or two a day.  For this 
reason I use it more topically or orally.

PT

 



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Re: CSCS and constipation

2014-10-20 Thread Dee
Oh dear, I fear I may have caused my husband acute discomfort then! Dee

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 No, I haven't personally, but here's my theory...
 
 Food poisoning/diarrehea for example - ingest silver, the baddies die and the 
 runs stops, the motion becomes firmer and starts to return to normal.
 
 Ingestion of too much silver in an effort to kill the baddies could promote 
 the destruction of some friendly flora also, hence the food will not be 
 broken down during the digestive processes adequately, this then would result 
 in the motion possibly becoming firmer still {cheeks may become flushed and 
 the eyes may bulge under the strain g}.
 
 Ingestion of too much silver under normal circumstances/conditions and the 
 friendly flora may be practically wiped out, this then would result in 
 dramatically reduced digestive processes/activity resulting in constipation 
 for no apparent or obvious reason.
 
 How's that?  Sound feasible? g.
 
 N.
 
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CS Trace minerals

2014-10-20 Thread Harold
Re ASLraVens’ query re source of minerals; I use ConcenTrace,trace minerals 
from Trace Minerals Research.Their site is, www.traceminerals.com. Roy,Utah.
But I order the  product from iherb,$24.14 ,for 8 Fluid ounces,[low sodium].
Am satisfied with same.

Harold

RE: CSCS and constipation

2014-10-20 Thread Neville
Could I investigate this further without sounding argumentative Alan? I have a 
tendency to not have a way with words hence I don't wish this to be taken as a 
debate or argument g.
I look at it this way, I may have a food party happening in the stomach and 
everyone is happy and enjoying themselves, then some riffraff gate crash the 
party and start creating an annoyance, i.e. bloating, wind, the runs etc, I 
ingest silver and the party returns to normal, everyone is happy doing their 
own thing.
Food poisoning etc causes diarrhea, hence the party is now totally out of 
control, again ingesting silver will evict that riffraff and the kind hosts 
regain control and the party quietens down.
Diarrhea is usually a sign of unwanted guests is it not?  Hence silver is the 
crowd controller who come in and take control back by evicting the gate 
crashers?
If too many crowd controllers get involved then some of the party organisers 
will get caught up in the scuffle and will be evicted along with the riffraff 
is my supposition?  Hence as some of the party organisers have now been tossed 
out with the riffraff the party tends to bog down, or up in this case, i.e. 
constipation
Diarrhea in my mind means things are not as they should be.  Diarrhea is quite 
some steps beyond a normal stomach upset?  To me it means some unwanted guests 
have entered and silver is required to get rid of those unwanted guests, but 
one needs to be careful of how much is used else as I said, some hosts will be 
kicked out along with the unwanted guests, ending up in shutting the party 
down, the friendly flora can't make themselves heard in the melee.
If you could explain further how Diarrhea is 'generally a defence mechanism' 
perhaps I will understand better?  My understanding is, Diarrhea is an effect 
and not a cause, if you get my drift?
N.


Subject: Re: CSCS and constipation
From: ala...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 12:31:10 -0700
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Diarrhea is generally a defence mechanism of the body to dispel some sort of 
baddie.
Alan
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RE: CSCS and constipation

2014-10-20 Thread Neville
I used to think that as well, but, if it's the goodies which do the job in the 
digestion process allowing motions to pass unhindered, then if those goodies 
are compromised in any way they can't do their job of breaking down the food we 
eat, thus the motion becomes firmer, i.e. poor digestion?  And if enough of 
those goodies are wiped out constipation becomes evident?
I mean it's the goodies which aids the digestion process, thus if they are not 
there, or are in minimal numbers, theory dictates constipation will ensue?
That would be a reasonable assumption wouldn't it?  I may be wrong of course, 
but that's how I see things working.  The goodies are there to keep things 
running 'smoothly' so to speak.
My theory is encouraged due to a mate of mine having a heart bypass or valve 
replacement or whatever it is they do, he was so pumped full of antibiotics etc 
etc that he eventually stuck his fingers down his throat to rid himself of it 
all, he even had to have enemas and other stuff to promote evacuation.  Of 
course the nurses went ape when they found out, but he was in so much trouble 
he had to do something about the situation as he was feeling sicker as time 
went on.  After the finger episode he felt better, in combination with all the 
other stuff he had to take to encourage evacuation.  He may have jumped the 
gun, but he considered nobody was listening so he took it upon himself to do 
something.
N.

From: tmswift777...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: CSCS and constipation
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 11:37:41 -0500
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Good bacteria chilled by antibiotics causes diarrhea not constipation so I 
don't think CS would cause constipation. Theresa

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On Oct 20, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Ron ron@gmail.com wrote:


  

  
  
Haha! Good one Neville.

Actually it does sound feasible.

Ron



On 10/20/2014 3:22 AM, Neville wrote:



  
  No, I haven't personally, but here's my theory...



Food poisoning/diarrehea for example - ingest silver, the
  baddies die and the runs stops, the motion becomes firmer
  and starts to return to normal.



Ingestion of too much silver in an effort to kill the
  baddies could promote the destruction of some friendly flora
  also, hence the food will not be broken down during the
  digestive processes adequately, this then would result in the
  motion possibly becoming firmer still {cheeks may become
  flushed and the eyes may bulge under the strain g}.



Ingestion of too much silver under normal
  circumstances/conditions and the friendly flora may be
  practically wiped out, this then would result in dramatically
  reduced digestive processes/activity resulting in constipation
  for no apparent or obvious reason.



How's that?  Sound feasible? g.



N.

  

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Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2014 #228

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Re: CS Trace minerals

2014-10-20 Thread TJ Garland
I like himalayan salt

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On Oct 20, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Harold har...@telus.net wrote:

Re ASLraVens’ query re source of minerals; I use ConcenTrace,trace minerals 
from Trace Minerals Research.Their site is, www.traceminerals.com. Roy,Utah.
But I order the  product from iherb,$24.14 ,for 8 Fluid ounces,[low sodium].
Am satisfied with same.
 
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Re: CSCS and constipation

2014-10-20 Thread phoenix23002 tds.net
A common side effect of a course of antibiotics is diarrhea which is why
one is encouraged to take probiotics or eat a lot of yogurt with live
cultures to
replace the gut flora and fauna.  Antibiotics kill off everything.. the
good and the bad, not 100% of course, but enough to cause problems.  People
who take a lot of antibiotics or very, very strong antibiotics can, on rare
occassions,  develop C-diff... a condition that can cause constant
diarrhea.  The cure is, beleive it or not, a fecal transplant..lol.. I
know.. yuck.   Some pain medications can cause horrific constipation due to
the pain medications putting everything to 'sleep', so to speak.

Many folks with constipation need to drink plenty of water and eat fiber
foods to give the gut lubrication and bulk.  I have taken cs for twenty
years or
more off and on and never have had it cause any gut issues.  When I take
DMSO, I can get just a little constipated since DMSO displaces water in
cells.
Supposedly, taking magnesium can cause loose stools as can mega-doses of
Vit. C.  Everyone is different, of course, and will react differently to
situations.  Lola H.
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:

  I used to think that as well, but, if it's the goodies which do the job
 in the digestion process allowing motions to pass unhindered, then if those
 goodies are compromised in any way they can't do their job of breaking down
 the food we eat, thus the motion becomes firmer, i.e. poor digestion?  And
 if enough of those goodies are wiped out constipation becomes evident?

 I mean it's the goodies which aids the digestion process, thus if they are
 not there, or are in minimal numbers, theory dictates constipation will
 ensue?

 That would be a reasonable assumption wouldn't it?  I may be wrong of
 course, but that's how I see things working.  The goodies are there to keep
 things running 'smoothly' so to speak.

 My theory is encouraged due to a mate of mine having a heart bypass or
 valve replacement or whatever it is they do, he was so pumped full of
 antibiotics etc etc that he eventually stuck his fingers down his throat to
 rid himself of it all, he even had to have enemas and other stuff to
 promote evacuation.  Of course the nurses went ape when they found out, but
 he was in so much trouble he had to do something about the situation as he
 was feeling sicker as time went on.  After the finger episode he felt
 better, in combination with all the other stuff he had to take to encourage
 evacuation.  He may have jumped the gun, but he considered nobody was
 listening so he took it upon himself to do something.

 N.

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 From: tmswift777...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: CSCS and constipation
 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 11:37:41 -0500
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com

 Good bacteria chilled by antibiotics causes diarrhea not constipation so I
 don't think CS would cause constipation.
 Theresa

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 20, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Ron ron@gmail.com wrote:

  Haha! Good one Neville.
 Actually it does sound feasible.
 Ron

 On 10/20/2014 3:22 AM, Neville wrote:

 No, I haven't personally, but here's my theory...

 Food poisoning/diarrehea for example - ingest silver, the baddies die and
 the runs stops, the motion becomes firmer and starts to return to normal.

 Ingestion of too much silver in an effort to kill the baddies could
 promote the destruction of some friendly flora also, hence the food will
 not be broken down during the digestive processes adequately, this then
 would result in the motion possibly becoming firmer still {cheeks may
 become flushed and the eyes may bulge under the strain g}.

 Ingestion of too much silver under normal circumstances/conditions and the
 friendly flora may be practically wiped out, this then would result in
 dramatically reduced digestive processes/activity resulting in constipation
 for no apparent or obvious reason.

 How's that?  Sound feasible? g.

 N.

  From: d...@deetroy.org
  Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 08:36:51 +0100
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CSCS and constipation
 
  Has anyone ever heard of CS causing constipation? dee
 
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Re: CSCS and constipation

2014-10-20 Thread Theresa
What is DMSO?

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 20, 2014, at 9:51 PM, phoenix23002 tds.net phoenix23...@tds.net 
 wrote:
 
 A common side effect of a course of antibiotics is diarrhea which is why one 
 is encouraged to take probiotics or eat a lot of yogurt with live cultures to
 replace the gut flora and fauna.  Antibiotics kill off everything.. the good 
 and the bad, not 100% of course, but enough to cause problems.  People who 
 take a lot of antibiotics or very, very strong antibiotics can, on rare 
 occassions,  develop C-diff... a condition that can cause constant diarrhea.  
 The cure is, beleive it or not, a fecal transplant..lol.. I know.. yuck.   
 Some pain medications can cause horrific constipation due to the pain 
 medications putting everything to 'sleep', so to speak.
  
 Many folks with constipation need to drink plenty of water and eat fiber 
 foods to give the gut lubrication and bulk.  I have taken cs for twenty years 
 or
 more off and on and never have had it cause any gut issues.  When I take 
 DMSO, I can get just a little constipated since DMSO displaces water in cells.
 Supposedly, taking magnesium can cause loose stools as can mega-doses of Vit. 
 C.  Everyone is different, of course, and will react differently to 
 situations.  Lola H.
 On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I used to think that as well, but, if it's the goodies which do the job in 
 the digestion process allowing motions to pass unhindered, then if those 
 goodies are compromised in any way they can't do their job of breaking down 
 the food we eat, thus the motion becomes firmer, i.e. poor digestion?  And 
 if enough of those goodies are wiped out constipation becomes evident?
 
 I mean it's the goodies which aids the digestion process, thus if they are 
 not there, or are in minimal numbers, theory dictates constipation will 
 ensue?
 
 That would be a reasonable assumption wouldn't it?  I may be wrong of 
 course, but that's how I see things working.  The goodies are there to keep 
 things running 'smoothly' so to speak.
 
 My theory is encouraged due to a mate of mine having a heart bypass or valve 
 replacement or whatever it is they do, he was so pumped full of antibiotics 
 etc etc that he eventually stuck his fingers down his throat to rid himself 
 of it all, he even had to have enemas and other stuff to promote evacuation. 
  Of course the nurses went ape when they found out, but he was in so much 
 trouble he had to do something about the situation as he was feeling sicker 
 as time went on.  After the finger episode he felt better, in combination 
 with all the other stuff he had to take to encourage evacuation.  He may 
 have jumped the gun, but he considered nobody was listening so he took it 
 upon himself to do something.
 
 N.
 
 From: tmswift777...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: CSCS and constipation
 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 11:37:41 -0500
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 Good bacteria chilled by antibiotics causes diarrhea not constipation so I 
 don't think CS would cause constipation. 
 Theresa
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 20, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Ron ron@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Haha! Good one Neville.
 Actually it does sound feasible.
 Ron
 
 On 10/20/2014 3:22 AM, Neville wrote:
 No, I haven't personally, but here's my theory...
 
 Food poisoning/diarrehea for example - ingest silver, the baddies die and 
 the runs stops, the motion becomes firmer and starts to return to normal.
 
 Ingestion of too much silver in an effort to kill the baddies could promote 
 the destruction of some friendly flora also, hence the food will not be 
 broken down during the digestive processes adequately, this then would 
 result in the motion possibly becoming firmer still {cheeks may become 
 flushed and the eyes may bulge under the strain g}.
 
 Ingestion of too much silver under normal circumstances/conditions and the 
 friendly flora may be practically wiped out, this then would result in 
 dramatically reduced digestive processes/activity resulting in constipation 
 for no apparent or obvious reason.
 
 How's that?  Sound feasible? g.
 
 N.
 
  From: d...@deetroy.org
  Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 08:36:51 +0100
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CSCS and constipation
  
  Has anyone ever heard of CS causing constipation? dee
  
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Re: CS Trace minerals

2014-10-20 Thread Victor Cozzetto
I too recommend the pink Himalayan salt. If your sea salt does not have
some color, then it is probably not as healthy as you think.
Victor

On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 10:23 AM, TJ Garland ironguard...@gmail.com wrote:

 I like himalayan salt

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 shield of law and in the name of justice.* —Charles de Montesquieu






 On Oct 20, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Harold har...@telus.net wrote:

  Re ASLraVens’ query re source of minerals; I use ConcenTrace,trace
 minerals from Trace Minerals Research.Their site is, www.traceminerals.com.
 Roy,Utah.
 But I order the  product from iherb,$24.14 ,for 8 Fluid ounces,[low
 sodium].
 Am satisfied with same.

 Harold



Re: CSCS and constipation

2014-10-20 Thread Victor Cozzetto
I think that probiotics and prebiotics, such as kefir, yogurt, fermented
foods, etc., are sometimes not emphasized enough. They are so important.
Kefir is a part of my family's daily diet, and it definitely has an impact
on making sure that everything exits smoothly.

Victor


On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 11:51 AM, phoenix23002 tds.net phoenix23...@tds.net
 wrote:

 A common side effect of a course of antibiotics is diarrhea which is why
 one is encouraged to take probiotics or eat a lot of yogurt with live
 cultures to
 replace the gut flora and fauna.  Antibiotics kill off everything.. the
 good and the bad, not 100% of course, but enough to cause problems.  People
 who take a lot of antibiotics or very, very strong antibiotics can, on rare
 occassions,  develop C-diff... a condition that can cause constant
 diarrhea.  The cure is, beleive it or not, a fecal transplant..lol.. I
 know.. yuck.   Some pain medications can cause horrific constipation due to
 the pain medications putting everything to 'sleep', so to speak.

 Many folks with constipation need to drink plenty of water and eat fiber
 foods to give the gut lubrication and bulk.  I have taken cs for twenty
 years or
 more off and on and never have had it cause any gut issues.  When I take
 DMSO, I can get just a little constipated since DMSO displaces water in
 cells.
 Supposedly, taking magnesium can cause loose stools as can mega-doses of
 Vit. C.  Everyone is different, of course, and will react differently to
 situations.  Lola H.
 On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:

  I used to think that as well, but, if it's the goodies which do the job
 in the digestion process allowing motions to pass unhindered, then if those
 goodies are compromised in any way they can't do their job of breaking down
 the food we eat, thus the motion becomes firmer, i.e. poor digestion?  And
 if enough of those goodies are wiped out constipation becomes evident?

 I mean it's the goodies which aids the digestion process, thus if they
 are not there, or are in minimal numbers, theory dictates constipation will
 ensue?

 That would be a reasonable assumption wouldn't it?  I may be wrong of
 course, but that's how I see things working.  The goodies are there to keep
 things running 'smoothly' so to speak.

 My theory is encouraged due to a mate of mine having a heart bypass or
 valve replacement or whatever it is they do, he was so pumped full of
 antibiotics etc etc that he eventually stuck his fingers down his throat to
 rid himself of it all, he even had to have enemas and other stuff to
 promote evacuation.  Of course the nurses went ape when they found out, but
 he was in so much trouble he had to do something about the situation as he
 was feeling sicker as time went on.  After the finger episode he felt
 better, in combination with all the other stuff he had to take to encourage
 evacuation.  He may have jumped the gun, but he considered nobody was
 listening so he took it upon himself to do something.

 N.

  --
 From: tmswift777...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: CSCS and constipation
 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 11:37:41 -0500
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com

 Good bacteria chilled by antibiotics causes diarrhea not constipation so
 I don't think CS would cause constipation.
 Theresa

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 20, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Ron ron@gmail.com wrote:

  Haha! Good one Neville.
 Actually it does sound feasible.
 Ron

 On 10/20/2014 3:22 AM, Neville wrote:

 No, I haven't personally, but here's my theory...

 Food poisoning/diarrehea for example - ingest silver, the baddies die and
 the runs stops, the motion becomes firmer and starts to return to normal.

 Ingestion of too much silver in an effort to kill the baddies could
 promote the destruction of some friendly flora also, hence the food will
 not be broken down during the digestive processes adequately, this then
 would result in the motion possibly becoming firmer still {cheeks may
 become flushed and the eyes may bulge under the strain g}.

 Ingestion of too much silver under normal circumstances/conditions and
 the friendly flora may be practically wiped out, this then would result in
 dramatically reduced digestive processes/activity resulting in constipation
 for no apparent or obvious reason.

 How's that?  Sound feasible? g.

 N.

  From: d...@deetroy.org
  Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 08:36:51 +0100
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CSCS and constipation
 
  Has anyone ever heard of CS causing constipation? dee
 
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