Re: CS>You're being lied to about COVID. - ICU NURSE | Jim ✞ In Christ Alone!

2021-08-17 Thread Deborah Gerard
 Something that has caught my attention of people posting spastic 
uncontrollable movements after the jab. Does anyone know what akathisia is? I 
remember people developing it after going on anti-depressants...short video 
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On Tuesday, August 17, 2021, 05:18:59 PM EDT, T. J. Garland 
 wrote:  
 
 
https://tv.gab.com/channel/dividends4life/view/youre-being-lied-to-about-covid-611bccb25b07152f969dac8e

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for a few good men to do 
nothing. Edmund Burke  

CS>Vaccine Expert Vanden Bossche Calls For “Immediate Halt” To Vaccinations, Says They Encourage “Escape Mutant” Variants - LewRockwell

2021-08-17 Thread Linda Ellis
Hi, Jean - the only point I was making in posting his bio was that he has a lot 
of experience with vaccines, at many places, with many employers, and therefore 
has some experience/standing to have an opinion about how this particular set 
of vaccines is being handled.

I am skeptical about the workings of most of his listed employers, and 
generally have developed skepticism about modern vaccines at all. While I have 
had all the normal "kid" vaccines, I think the last one I got was the Polio 
vaccine in grade school, in the 1950s. As I've watched the rollouts of all 
these new vaccines, I have serious questions about them. Back in my day, 
vaccines were few and well-spaced-out. In my non-medical opinion, that gave my 
little body time to work with each of the vaccines individually. I'm not even 
sure that they had that triple-shot Measles/Mumps/Rubella vaccine, which is the 
subject of some concern by many parents who have noticed changes in their 
children, nevermind the "studies" which "debunk" their concerns.

Nowadays, kids get many more vaccines, starting with a Hepatitis B vaccine at 
birth (is a newborn's system really ready for that kind of thing?), and they 
just pile on one after another. I think, if I were a parent, I'd be holding up 
the red flag and asking a LOT of questions about all this.

I haven't taken a flu shot in more than 25 years - why, when it's really a 
guess whether the powers that be picked the right strains. Last I recall, the 
average flu shot is somewhere between 40% and 60% effective - and every year I 
have friends and relatives who got the flu immediately after taking that shot. 
Better I should stick to building my immune system against whatever virus shows 
up every year.

The last flu I had was New Year's 1987/88; husband's was 1998 - his 50th 
birthday. Since then, not even a bad cold or sore throat, despite winter 
working conditions on construction sites and daily contact with a constant 
stream of new people.

Back to Vanden-Bossche. His experience working with vaccines, to me, means his 
opinion has more value than, say, our resident Troll. When he says what he did, 
that's worth something to me. To save anybody the trouble of looking for his 
comment, I'm reposting it here

“As of the early days of the mass vaccination campaigns, at least a few experts 
have been warning against the catastrophic impact such a program could have on 
global and individual health. Mass vaccination in the middle of a pandemic is 
prone to promoting selection and adaptation of immune escape variants that are 
featured by increasing infectiousness and resistance to spike protein 
(S)-directed antibodies (Abs), thereby diminishing protection in vaccines and 
threatening the unvaccinated."
”




From:
"Jean Baugh" lt;oldglorytexa...@gmail.comgt;


Date: Tue, Aug 17, 2021 11:43 am


To:
silver-list@eskimo.com


Subject: CSgt;Re: CSgt;Re: CSgt;Re: CSgt;Vaccine Expert 
Vanden Bossche Calls For “Immediate Halt” To Vaccinations, Says They Encourage 
“Escape Mutant” Variants - LewRockwell




  Hi,





  I was reading about Bossche but got no further than the 'Kill Bill and 
Melinda Gates' foundation. Enough ot that!





  Jean






  On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 1:40 AM Cyndiann Phillips lt;
  cyndi...@gmail.comgt; wrote:



   He is a veterinarian.




Vanden Bossche’s scientific argument in broad terms is that the current 
COVID-19 vaccines, through a mechanism analogous to antibiotic resistance, will 
create mutant variants of the virus that escape the protection of those 
vaccines. This problem will be exacerbated, he claims, because people who have 
been vaccinated (and/or social distancing and staying inside during the 
pandemic) will be less capable of fighting off those strains than someone who 
has not been vaccinated. As we explain below, this scenario is speculative, 
scientifically flawed, logically inconsistent, and belied by actual data.






 https://www.snopes.com/news/2021/03/26/geert-vanden-bossche/







On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 8:45 PM Linda Ellis lt;
li...@mayaluga.comgt; wrote:



 Crackpot? Really?




 · Geert Vanden Bossche received his DVM from the University of Ghent, 
Belgium, and his PhD in Virology from the University of Hohenheim, Germany. He 
has worked for several vaccine companies (GSK Biologicals, Novartis Vaccines, 
Solvay Biologicals), serving various roles in vaccine Ramp;D as well as in 
late vaccine development. He joined the Bill amp; Melinda Gates 
Foundation’s Global Health Discovery team as Senior Program Officer before 
working with the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization (GAVI) in Geneva 
as Senior Ebola Program Manager. At GAVI he tracked efforts to develop an Ebola 
vaccine. He represented GAVI with other partners, including WHO, to review 
progress on the fight against Ebola and to build plans for global pandemic 
preparedness. He then joined the German Center for Infection Research in 
Cologne as Head of 

Re: CS>Who is the daughter of Dick Cheney?

2021-08-17 Thread Jean Baugh
Sorry, I accidentally sent this one.

Jean

On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 5:11 PM Jean Baugh 
wrote:

> The answer is Liz Cheney.
>
> Jean
>


CS>Who is the daughter of Dick Cheney?

2021-08-17 Thread Jean Baugh
The answer is Liz Cheney.

Jean


CS>You're being lied to about COVID. - ICU NURSE | Jim ✞ In Christ Alone!

2021-08-17 Thread T. J. Garland

https://tv.gab.com/channel/dividends4life/view/youre-being-lied-to-about-covid-611bccb25b07152f969dac8e


All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for a few good men to do 
nothing. Edmund Burke

Re: CS>Hospital numbers

2021-08-17 Thread Cyndiann Phillips
They need to have a doctor figure out what those side effects are from. I
see no correlation to covid shots mentioned.

I felt body aches for 2 days after my second shot but it sure beats dying!

On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 1:17 PM Jean Baugh 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My sister and her husband (retired military), had the shot and both are
> having serious side effects.
>
> Jean
>
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 6:36 AM Cyndiann Phillips 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.statnews.com/2021/08/16/scientists-clues-how-safe-vaccinated-people-are-from-covid-19/?fbclid=IwAR2HGrJ9inMWeNMTiaTIhYKv1JHBwwG2-Mc98qDRvw1-FW6DsNwret19-zY
>>
>> “We saw a very clear correlation that the higher the level of antibody
>> produced by vaccines, the less likely you were to become sick with
>> Covid-19,” said Christopher Houchens, one of the authors of the paper and a
>> biologist at the U.S. Biomedical Advanced Research and Development
>> Authority.
>>
>> Mercola lies so you buy his fake solutions.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 6:58 AM T. J. Garland 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for a few good men to
>>> do nothing. Edmund Burke*
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>> *From:* Robert Dotson 
>>> *Date:* August 17, 2021 at 6:41:48 AM EDT
>>> *To:* Richard Dotson , riversidefarmtn <
>>> riversidefar...@yahoo.com>, TJGarland ,
>>> mscibelli 
>>> *Subject:* *Numbers*
>>> *Reply-To:* Robert Dotson 
>>>
>>> "...Vaccinated Now Comprise the Bulk of Hospitalizations
>>>
>>> For example, August 1, 2021, Dr. Sharon Alroy-Preis, director of
>>> Israel’s Public Health Services, announced half of all COVID-19 infections
>>> were among the fully vaccinated.24
>>>
>>> A few days later, August 5, Dr. Kobi Haviv, director of the Herzog
>>> Hospital in Jerusalem, appeared on Channel 13 News, reporting that 95% of
>>> severely ill COVID-19 patients are fully vaccinated, and that they make up
>>> 85% to 90% of COVID related hospitalizations overall.25
>>>
>>> In Scotland, official data on hospitalizations and deaths show 87% of
>>> those who have died from COVID-19 in the third wave that began in early
>>> July were vaccinated,26 and in Gibraltar, which has a 99% COVID jab
>>> compliance rate, COVID cases have risen by 2,500% since June 1, 2021.27
>>>
>>> A CDC investigation of an outbreak in Barnstable County, Massachusetts
>>> between July 6 through July 25, 2021, found 74% of those who received a
>>> diagnosis of COVID19, and 80% of hospitalizations, were among the fully
>>> vaccinated.28,29 Most, but not all, had the Delta variant."
>>>
>>> Xourcw: Mercola 8/17/2021
>>>
>>>


CS>Goodbye, Cyndiann

2021-08-17 Thread Linda Ellis
And you, Cyndiann, are a jackass. You clearly have no idea what the people in 
groups like this are interested in; or who/what they view as reliable 
reporting; or what their goals are; or what health issues they are 
experimenting on.  I can't recall a single post where you even suggested any 
alternative to help prevent or address this virus.  All you do is push these 
vaccines.  If you think your constant haranguing and harassing and insulting is 
moving anybody's position toward those vaccines; if you think constantly 
posting links from MSM sources or any of the alphabet agencies are regarded as 
"credible," you're not just a jackass; you're an idiot. 

  

As you choose several websites you dismiss, Snopes has a horrible reputation 
for the way it "fact checks."  I used to check them during my fact-checking 
process.  They are so biased in their "fact checking" that they're useless.  

 

When I had to unblock you to try to fix a problem my email server was having, I 
made the mistake of opening up some of the stuff that started to come through 
again.  I won't make that mistake again - and am going back to my email server 
re-block you.  So, go ahead and insult me as much as you like.  I have read the 
last post from you, and will quickly delete anything I see from you that shows 
up in someone else's reply. 

 

From: "Cyndiann Phillips"  

Date: Tue, Aug 17, 2021 1:40 am 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: CS>Re: CS>Re: CS>Vaccine Expert Vanden Bossche Calls For “Immediate 
Halt” To Vaccinations, Says They Encourage “Escape Mutant” Variants - 
LewRockwell 

 He is a veterinarian.    Vanden Bossche’s scientific argument in broad terms 
is that the current COVID-19 vaccines, through a mechanism analogous to 
antibiotic resistance, will create mutant variants of the virus that escape the 
protection of those vaccines. This problem will be exacerbated, he claims, 
because people who have been vaccinated (and/or social distancing and staying 
inside during the pandemic) will be less capable of fighting off those strains 
than someone who has not been vaccinated. As we explain below, this scenario is 
speculative, scientifically flawed, logically inconsistent, and belied by 
actual data. 

   https://www.snopes.com/news/2021/03/26/geert-vanden-bossche/ 

 On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 8:45 PM Linda Ellis < li...@mayaluga.com> wrote: 
Crackpot?  Really?   

 

 


·    Geert Vanden Bossche received his DVM from the University of Ghent, 
Belgium, and his PhD in Virology from the University of Hohenheim, Germany. He 
has worked for several vaccine companies (GSK Biologicals, Novartis Vaccines, 
Solvay Biologicals), serving various roles in vaccine R as well as in late 
vaccine development.  He joined the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation’s Global 
Health Discovery team as Senior Program Officer before working with the Global 
Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization (GAVI) in Geneva as Senior Ebola Program 
Manager. At GAVI he tracked efforts to develop an Ebola vaccine. He represented 
GAVI with other partners, including WHO, to review progress on the fight 
against Ebola and to build plans for global pandemic preparedness. He then 
joined the German Center for Infection Research in Cologne as Head of the 
Vaccine Development Office. In a summary of his findings regarding the Covid 
vaccination programs, he writes: “As of the early days of the mass vaccination 
campaigns, at least a few experts have been warning against the catastrophic 
impact such a program could have on global and individual health. Mass 
vaccination in the middle of a pandemic is prone to promoting selection and 
adaptation of immune escape variants that are featured by increasing 
infectiousness and resistance to spike protein (S)-directed antibodies (Abs), 
thereby diminishing protection in vaccinees and threatening the unvaccinated.” 

 From: "Cyndiann Phillips"  

 Date: Mon, Aug 16, 2021 6:00 pm 

 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

 Subject: CS>Re: CS>Vaccine Expert Vanden Bossche Calls For “Immediate Halt” To 
Vaccinations, Says They Encourage “Escape Mutant” Variants - LewRockwell 

 another crackpot   

 On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 4:52 PM T. J. Garland < ironguard...@gmail.com> wrote: 

 
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/08/tyler-durden/vaccine-expert-vanden-bossche-calls-for-immediate-halt-to-vaccinations-says-they-encourage-escape-mutant-variants/
 

 

 All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for a few good men to do 
nothing. Edmund Burke

Re: CS>Hospital numbers

2021-08-17 Thread Jean Baugh
Hi,

My sister and her husband (retired military), had the shot and both are
having serious side effects.

Jean

On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 6:36 AM Cyndiann Phillips 
wrote:

>
> https://www.statnews.com/2021/08/16/scientists-clues-how-safe-vaccinated-people-are-from-covid-19/?fbclid=IwAR2HGrJ9inMWeNMTiaTIhYKv1JHBwwG2-Mc98qDRvw1-FW6DsNwret19-zY
>
> “We saw a very clear correlation that the higher the level of antibody
> produced by vaccines, the less likely you were to become sick with
> Covid-19,” said Christopher Houchens, one of the authors of the paper and a
> biologist at the U.S. Biomedical Advanced Research and Development
> Authority.
>
> Mercola lies so you buy his fake solutions.
>
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 6:58 AM T. J. Garland 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> *All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for a few good men to
>> do nothing. Edmund Burke*
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> *From:* Robert Dotson 
>> *Date:* August 17, 2021 at 6:41:48 AM EDT
>> *To:* Richard Dotson , riversidefarmtn <
>> riversidefar...@yahoo.com>, TJGarland ,
>> mscibelli 
>> *Subject:* *Numbers*
>> *Reply-To:* Robert Dotson 
>>
>> "...Vaccinated Now Comprise the Bulk of Hospitalizations
>>
>> For example, August 1, 2021, Dr. Sharon Alroy-Preis, director of Israel’s
>> Public Health Services, announced half of all COVID-19 infections were
>> among the fully vaccinated.24
>>
>> A few days later, August 5, Dr. Kobi Haviv, director of the Herzog
>> Hospital in Jerusalem, appeared on Channel 13 News, reporting that 95% of
>> severely ill COVID-19 patients are fully vaccinated, and that they make up
>> 85% to 90% of COVID related hospitalizations overall.25
>>
>> In Scotland, official data on hospitalizations and deaths show 87% of
>> those who have died from COVID-19 in the third wave that began in early
>> July were vaccinated,26 and in Gibraltar, which has a 99% COVID jab
>> compliance rate, COVID cases have risen by 2,500% since June 1, 2021.27
>>
>> A CDC investigation of an outbreak in Barnstable County, Massachusetts
>> between July 6 through July 25, 2021, found 74% of those who received a
>> diagnosis of COVID19, and 80% of hospitalizations, were among the fully
>> vaccinated.28,29 Most, but not all, had the Delta variant."
>>
>> Xourcw: Mercola 8/17/2021
>>
>>


CS>Re: CS>Re: CS>Re: CS>Vaccine Expert Vanden Bossche Calls For “Immediate Halt” To Vaccinations, Says They Encourage “Escape Mutant” Variants - LewRockwell

2021-08-17 Thread Jean Baugh
Hi,

I was reading about Bossche but got no further than the 'Kill Bill and
Melinda Gates' foundation.  Enough ot that!

Jean

On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 1:40 AM Cyndiann Phillips 
wrote:

> He is a veterinarian.
>
> Vanden Bossche’s scientific argument in broad terms is that the current
> COVID-19 vaccines, through a mechanism analogous to antibiotic resistance,
> will create mutant variants of the virus that escape the protection of
> those vaccines. This problem will be exacerbated, he claims, because people
> who have been vaccinated (and/or social distancing and staying inside
> during the pandemic) will be less capable of fighting off those strains
> than someone who has not been vaccinated. As we explain below, this
> scenario is speculative, scientifically flawed, logically inconsistent, and
> belied by actual data.
>
> https://www.snopes.com/news/2021/03/26/geert-vanden-bossche/
>
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 8:45 PM Linda Ellis  wrote:
>
>> Crackpot?  Really?
>>
>> ·*Geert **Vanden Bossche* received his DVM from the University
>> of Ghent, Belgium, and his PhD in Virology from the University of
>> Hohenheim, Germany. He has worked for several vaccine companies (GSK
>> Biologicals, Novartis Vaccines, Solvay Biologicals), serving various roles
>> in vaccine R as well as in late vaccine development.  He joined the Bill
>> & Melinda Gates Foundation’s Global Health Discovery team as Senior Program
>> Officer before working with the Global Alliance for Vaccines and
>> Immunization (GAVI) in Geneva as Senior Ebola Program Manager. At GAVI he
>> tracked efforts to develop an Ebola vaccine. He represented GAVI with other
>> partners, including WHO, to review progress on the fight against Ebola and
>> to build plans for global pandemic preparedness. He then joined the German
>> Center for Infection Research in Cologne as Head of the Vaccine Development
>> Office. In a summary of his findings regarding the Covid vaccination
>> programs, he writes: “As of the early days of the mass vaccination
>> campaigns, at least a few experts have been warning against the
>> catastrophic impact such a program could have on global and individual
>> health. *Mass vaccination in the middle of a pandemic is prone to
>> promoting selection and adaptation of immune escape variants that are
>> featured by increasing infectiousness and resistance to spike protein
>> (S)-directed antibodies (Abs), thereby diminishing protection in vaccinees
>> and threatening the unvaccinated.*”
>>
>> --
>> *From: *"Cyndiann Phillips" 
>> *Date: *Mon, Aug 16, 2021 6:00 pm
>> *To: *silver-list@eskimo.com
>> *Subject: *CS>Re: CS>Vaccine Expert Vanden Bossche Calls For “Immediate
>> Halt” To Vaccinations, Says They Encourage “Escape Mutant” Variants -
>> LewRockwell
>> another crackpot
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 4:52 PM T. J. Garland < ironguard...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/08/tyler-durden/vaccine-expert-vanden-bossche-calls-for-immediate-halt-to-vaccinations-says-they-encourage-escape-mutant-variants/
>>
>>
>> *All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for a few good men to
>> do nothing. Edmund Burke*
>>
>>


Re: CS>prevent illness?

2021-08-17 Thread Richard Atkinson
and you believe Forbes  Hilarious !
Richard Atkinson
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The Chaos Oasis 
Belize

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> On Aug 17, 2021, at 12:36 AM, Cyndiann Phillips  wrote:
> 
> There is no graphene in them! 
> 
> https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/07/10/graphene-oxide-in-pfizer-covid-19-vaccines-here-are-the-latest-unsupported-claims/?sh=5cd258ed74d7
>  
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 8:23 PM Max  > wrote:
> Some labs found lots of graphene in the vaccines, which I believe was 
> denied by the pharma cartels, I mean companies
> 
> "Graphene oxide-silver nanoparticles shown to rapidly neutralize RNA 
> viruses"
> 
> https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210302/Graphene-oxide-silver-nanoparticles-shown-to-rapidly-neutralize-RNA-viruses.aspx
>  
> 
> 
> should we be mixing our cs with herbs before use?
> 
> 'Curcumin modified silver nanoparticles for highly efficient inhibition 
> of respiratory syncytial virus infection'
> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26781043/ 
> 
> 
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Re: CS>prevent illness?

2021-08-17 Thread Rick
For those or the one who won't believe the experts who don't work for
governments, or are under mandate of governments. Listen to the PARENTS of
Children who live it every day...

The film has been released currently for free viewing. The first one is
trying to re-coop the cost of making it. So watch this while you can and
pass the link to your loved ones.

See Here 


On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 8:13 PM Max  wrote:

> Has anyone noticed they keep saying the Pfizer vaccine was not designed
> to reduce infection but instead to reduce serious disease?  This doesnt
> make sense if neutralizing antibody production is the vaccine
> principle.  Why?  Because, as I keep mentioning, covid is a two or three
> stage disease. Everyone defeats the virus in 7 to 10 days, including the
> ones that go on to die.  The cause of death is a hyperinflammatory
> response from a dysregulated immune system.  In other words, the
> vaccines dont appear to treat the cause of severe covid.  But the data
> seems to indicate a reduction in severe disease at least before the
> delta variant.   So this has me wondering;  what is in the vaccine that
> treats the hyperinflammatory response?
>
> This is pure conjecture, but imagine this sci fi scenario;  the vaccine
> includes some antiviral nanoparticle incorporating graphene oxide and
> silver  which reduces serious illness after the virus has already
> penetrated into the blood stream, but does not reduce nasal titers and
> thus infectiousness.  The population then very predictably causes
> evolutionary mutation of the virus, requiring a yearly vaccination
> schedule for new variants.
>
> Check out this overview including graphene oxide silver nanoparticles
>
> " In another report, GO sheets are reported to exhibit significant
> antiviral inhibition potentials toward enveloped feline coronavirus
> (FCoV), and incorporating silver particles into GO structure broadens
> its antiviral potential toward non-enveloped infectious bursal disease
> virus (IBDV) as well"
>
> " In a recent study, authors have attempted to investigate the antiviral
> effect of GO-Silver nanoparticles composite on the replication of
> porcine reproductive and respiratory syndrome virus (PRRSV) [38]. The
> results suggest that the exposure of virus with GO-AgNPs composite
> obstruct the virus to enter the host cell with 59.2% efficiency and also
> promotes the production of IFN-stimulating genes (ISGs) and interferon-α
> (IFN-α) that inhibits the virus proliferation"
>
> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7577689/
>
> as I understand it,  the IFN-α is key to the ability of the young and
> healthy to fight of covid and experience little if any symptoms of illness
>
>
> thanks
>
> max
>
>
>
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Re: CS>prevent illness?

2021-08-17 Thread Da Darrin
"The cause of death is a hyperinflammatory
response from a dysregulated immune system"

If that's the case why not just take a course of Prednisone and
quarenteen until it runs it's course.
Prednisone is  used to stop your immune system from attacking
transplanted tissue, it also lowers your ability to fend off other
diseases so quarenteen would be nessisary.
Dave

On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 11:35 PM Cyndiann Phillips  wrote:
>
> Evidently you don't know what a Covid long hauler is. They have issues for 
> many months.
>
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 8:13 PM Max  wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone noticed they keep saying the Pfizer vaccine was not designed
>> to reduce infection but instead to reduce serious disease?  This doesnt
>> make sense if neutralizing antibody production is the vaccine
>> principle.  Why?  Because, as I keep mentioning, covid is a two or three
>> stage disease. Everyone defeats the virus in 7 to 10 days, including the
>> ones that go on to die.  The cause of death is a hyperinflammatory
>> response from a dysregulated immune system.  In other words, the
>> vaccines dont appear to treat the cause of severe covid.  But the data
>> seems to indicate a reduction in severe disease at least before the
>> delta variant.   So this has me wondering;  what is in the vaccine that
>> treats the hyperinflammatory response?
>>
>> This is pure conjecture, but imagine this sci fi scenario;  the vaccine
>> includes some antiviral nanoparticle incorporating graphene oxide and
>> silver  which reduces serious illness after the virus has already
>> penetrated into the blood stream, but does not reduce nasal titers and
>> thus infectiousness.  The population then very predictably causes
>> evolutionary mutation of the virus, requiring a yearly vaccination
>> schedule for new variants.
>>
>> Check out this overview including graphene oxide silver nanoparticles
>>
>> " In another report, GO sheets are reported to exhibit significant
>> antiviral inhibition potentials toward enveloped feline coronavirus
>> (FCoV), and incorporating silver particles into GO structure broadens
>> its antiviral potential toward non-enveloped infectious bursal disease
>> virus (IBDV) as well"
>>
>> " In a recent study, authors have attempted to investigate the antiviral
>> effect of GO-Silver nanoparticles composite on the replication of
>> porcine reproductive and respiratory syndrome virus (PRRSV) [38]. The
>> results suggest that the exposure of virus with GO-AgNPs composite
>> obstruct the virus to enter the host cell with 59.2% efficiency and also
>> promotes the production of IFN-stimulating genes (ISGs) and interferon-α
>> (IFN-α) that inhibits the virus proliferation"
>>
>> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7577689/
>>
>> as I understand it,  the IFN-α is key to the ability of the young and
>> healthy to fight of covid and experience little if any symptoms of illness
>>
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> max
>>
>>
>>
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Re: CS>prevent illness?

2021-08-17 Thread Richard Atkinson
and Cayenne pepper and CS  in a nebulizer works wonders 
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> On Aug 16, 2021, at 6:22 PM, Max  wrote:
> 
> Some labs found lots of graphene in the vaccines, which I believe was denied 
> by the pharma cartels, I mean companies
> 
> "Graphene oxide-silver nanoparticles shown to rapidly neutralize RNA viruses"
> 
> https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210302/Graphene-oxide-silver-nanoparticles-shown-to-rapidly-neutralize-RNA-viruses.aspx
> 
> should we be mixing our cs with herbs before use?
> 
> 'Curcumin modified silver nanoparticles for highly efficient inhibition of 
> respiratory syncytial virus infection'
> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26781043/
> 
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Re: CS>prevent illness?

2021-08-17 Thread Ode Coyote
The biggest problem all these people have with using silverwhich they
KNOW WORKS...is making it complicated enough to convince you that you can't
do it yourself dang near for FREE  and have to buy it from 'them'
...but it seems as though the complications make it less effective and
takes using more silver doing nothingand ALL of them work by
'releasing' silver Ions [vs just making silver ions to start with]
Ode

On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 8:13 PM Max  wrote:

> Has anyone noticed they keep saying the Pfizer vaccine was not designed
> to reduce infection but instead to reduce serious disease?  This doesnt
> make sense if neutralizing antibody production is the vaccine
> principle.  Why?  Because, as I keep mentioning, covid is a two or three
> stage disease. Everyone defeats the virus in 7 to 10 days, including the
> ones that go on to die.  The cause of death is a hyperinflammatory
> response from a dysregulated immune system.  In other words, the
> vaccines dont appear to treat the cause of severe covid.  But the data
> seems to indicate a reduction in severe disease at least before the
> delta variant.   So this has me wondering;  what is in the vaccine that
> treats the hyperinflammatory response?
>
> This is pure conjecture, but imagine this sci fi scenario;  the vaccine
> includes some antiviral nanoparticle incorporating graphene oxide and
> silver  which reduces serious illness after the virus has already
> penetrated into the blood stream, but does not reduce nasal titers and
> thus infectiousness.  The population then very predictably causes
> evolutionary mutation of the virus, requiring a yearly vaccination
> schedule for new variants.
>
> Check out this overview including graphene oxide silver nanoparticles
>
> " In another report, GO sheets are reported to exhibit significant
> antiviral inhibition potentials toward enveloped feline coronavirus
> (FCoV), and incorporating silver particles into GO structure broadens
> its antiviral potential toward non-enveloped infectious bursal disease
> virus (IBDV) as well"
>
> " In a recent study, authors have attempted to investigate the antiviral
> effect of GO-Silver nanoparticles composite on the replication of
> porcine reproductive and respiratory syndrome virus (PRRSV) [38]. The
> results suggest that the exposure of virus with GO-AgNPs composite
> obstruct the virus to enter the host cell with 59.2% efficiency and also
> promotes the production of IFN-stimulating genes (ISGs) and interferon-α
> (IFN-α) that inhibits the virus proliferation"
>
> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7577689/
>
> as I understand it,  the IFN-α is key to the ability of the young and
> healthy to fight of covid and experience little if any symptoms of illness
>
>
> thanks
>
> max
>
>
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Re: CS>graphene oxide?

2021-08-17 Thread Victor Cozzetto
Something along those lines is SPIONs, which I haven't seen many people
talking about.
I discuss them a bit here, along with some excerpts from some questions I
got to ask Mary Holland (president or RFK's Children's Health Defense). I
get into the SPIONs around the 20' mark.
https://vitagenics.teachable.com/courses/patronqa/lectures/33069918

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On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 4:43 AM Max  wrote:

> is there graphene oxide in the vaccines?   There is controversy, as the
> so called fact checkers say its not in the patents etc while people like
> Karen Kingston, a Pfizer Whistleblower claim to show evidence it is in
> the vaccines.  There is great secrecy about the ingredients as the term
> "trade secret" is used by these uber powerful corporations.  Certainly
> its not out of the question that it could be used.
>
>
> https://www.nature.com/articles/s41428-020-0350-9
>
> and oddly these masks were recalled for containing graphene
>
>
> https://healthycanadians.gc.ca/recall-alert-rappel-avis/hc-sc/2021/75391r-eng.php
>
> A claim might have been made of the discovery of graphene in masks and
> this would promptly have been 'debunked' by the usual players.  So
> unless you have the lab results in front of your own eyes, you can never
> be certain what the truth is
>
>
>
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Re: CS>Hospital numbers

2021-08-17 Thread Cyndiann Phillips
https://www.statnews.com/2021/08/16/scientists-clues-how-safe-vaccinated-people-are-from-covid-19/?fbclid=IwAR2HGrJ9inMWeNMTiaTIhYKv1JHBwwG2-Mc98qDRvw1-FW6DsNwret19-zY

“We saw a very clear correlation that the higher the level of antibody
produced by vaccines, the less likely you were to become sick with
Covid-19,” said Christopher Houchens, one of the authors of the paper and a
biologist at the U.S. Biomedical Advanced Research and Development
Authority.

Mercola lies so you buy his fake solutions.

On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 6:58 AM T. J. Garland 
wrote:

>
>
> *All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for a few good men to do
> nothing. Edmund Burke*
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From:* Robert Dotson 
> *Date:* August 17, 2021 at 6:41:48 AM EDT
> *To:* Richard Dotson , riversidefarmtn <
> riversidefar...@yahoo.com>, TJGarland , mscibelli
> 
> *Subject:* *Numbers*
> *Reply-To:* Robert Dotson 
>
> "...Vaccinated Now Comprise the Bulk of Hospitalizations
>
> For example, August 1, 2021, Dr. Sharon Alroy-Preis, director of Israel’s
> Public Health Services, announced half of all COVID-19 infections were
> among the fully vaccinated.24
>
> A few days later, August 5, Dr. Kobi Haviv, director of the Herzog
> Hospital in Jerusalem, appeared on Channel 13 News, reporting that 95% of
> severely ill COVID-19 patients are fully vaccinated, and that they make up
> 85% to 90% of COVID related hospitalizations overall.25
>
> In Scotland, official data on hospitalizations and deaths show 87% of
> those who have died from COVID-19 in the third wave that began in early
> July were vaccinated,26 and in Gibraltar, which has a 99% COVID jab
> compliance rate, COVID cases have risen by 2,500% since June 1, 2021.27
>
> A CDC investigation of an outbreak in Barnstable County, Massachusetts
> between July 6 through July 25, 2021, found 74% of those who received a
> diagnosis of COVID19, and 80% of hospitalizations, were among the fully
> vaccinated.28,29 Most, but not all, had the Delta variant."
>
> Xourcw: Mercola 8/17/2021
>
>


CS>Hospital numbers

2021-08-17 Thread T. J. Garland


All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for a few good men to do 
nothing. Edmund Burke

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Robert Dotson 
> Date: August 17, 2021 at 6:41:48 AM EDT
> To: Richard Dotson , riversidefarmtn 
> , TJGarland , mscibelli 
> 
> Subject: Numbers
> Reply-To: Robert Dotson 
> 
> "...Vaccinated Now Comprise the Bulk of Hospitalizations
> 
> For example, August 1, 2021, Dr. Sharon Alroy-Preis, director of Israel’s 
> Public Health Services, announced half of all COVID-19 infections were among 
> the fully vaccinated.24
> 
> A few days later, August 5, Dr. Kobi Haviv, director of the Herzog Hospital 
> in Jerusalem, appeared on Channel 13 News, reporting that 95% of severely ill 
> COVID-19 patients are fully vaccinated, and that they make up 85% to 90% of 
> COVID related hospitalizations overall.25
> 
> In Scotland, official data on hospitalizations and deaths show 87% of those 
> who have died from COVID-19 in the third wave that began in early July were 
> vaccinated,26 and in Gibraltar, which has a 99% COVID jab compliance rate, 
> COVID cases have risen by 2,500% since June 1, 2021.27
> 
> A CDC investigation of an outbreak in Barnstable County, Massachusetts 
> between July 6 through July 25, 2021, found 74% of those who received a 
> diagnosis of COVID19, and 80% of hospitalizations, were among the fully 
> vaccinated.28,29 Most, but not all, had the Delta variant."
> 
> Xourcw: Mercola 8/17/2021


Re: CS>prevent illness?

2021-08-17 Thread Tony Moody
The vaxx vs novaxx argument aside, the actual numbers are small. 
Vanishingly small n the bigger picture. See:


"Some simple maths can place everything into perspective and show the 
level of deception we are facing! "

https://t.me/LauraAbolichannel/5436

I am all for preventative, proactive health buiding. Primary healthcare 
so that I do not have to go to hospital.


OK, Tony

On 2021/08/17 02:13, Max wrote:
Has anyone noticed they keep saying the Pfizer vaccine was not 
designed to reduce infection but instead to reduce serious disease?  
This doesnt make sense if neutralizing antibody production is the 
vaccine principle.  Why?  Because, as I keep mentioning, covid is a 
two or three stage disease. Everyone defeats the virus in 7 to 10 
days, including the ones that go on to die.  The cause of death is a 
hyperinflammatory response from a dysregulated immune system.  In 
other words, the vaccines dont appear to treat the cause of severe 
covid.  But the data seems to indicate a reduction in severe disease 
at least before the delta variant.   So this has me wondering;  what 
is in the vaccine that treats the hyperinflammatory response?






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CS>Graphen Oxide can be very dangerous -- G5 transmissions can activate this substance . . .

2021-08-17 Thread Douglas Haack
 Max,see Graphene Oxide and 5G -- may be very dangerous . . .
https://plasmaenergysolution.com/?p=10391
You have presented GOxide and Nano Silver -- the Ag is a dangerous Red Herring 
maybe, in this case  . . . .
Not sure if "Red Herring" is the best way to describe it -- but putting the 
nano silver in this mix, might bring your guard down and not notice the dangers 
of the GOxide . . .
I've read a few stories on the this danger. . . 


dh


On Tuesday, 17 August 2021, 10:23:02 am AEST, Max  
wrote:  
 
 Some labs found lots of graphene in the vaccines, which I believe was 
denied by the pharma cartels, I mean companies

"Graphene oxide-silver nanoparticles shown to rapidly neutralize RNA 
viruses"

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210302/Graphene-oxide-silver-nanoparticles-shown-to-rapidly-neutralize-RNA-viruses.aspx

should we be mixing our cs with herbs before use?

'Curcumin modified silver nanoparticles for highly efficient inhibition 
of respiratory syncytial virus infection'
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26781043/


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Re: CS>graphene oxide?

2021-08-17 Thread Max
is there graphene oxide in the vaccines?   There is controversy, as the 
so called fact checkers say its not in the patents etc while people like 
Karen Kingston, a Pfizer Whistleblower claim to show evidence it is in 
the vaccines.  There is great secrecy about the ingredients as the term 
"trade secret" is used by these uber powerful corporations.  Certainly 
its not out of the question that it could be used.



https://www.nature.com/articles/s41428-020-0350-9

and oddly these masks were recalled for containing graphene

https://healthycanadians.gc.ca/recall-alert-rappel-avis/hc-sc/2021/75391r-eng.php

A claim might have been made of the discovery of graphene in masks and 
this would promptly have been 'debunked' by the usual players.  So 
unless you have the lab results in front of your own eyes, you can never 
be certain what the truth is




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Re: CS>Graphen Oxide can be very dangerous -- G5 transmissions can activate this substance . . .

2021-08-17 Thread Max

thanks DH

I didnt mean to suggest the graphene oxide was for some reason a way to 
go.  We have heard it was found in the vaccines and so this paper was 
very interesting in that they used it as a nanoparticle, in conjunction 
with silver as a way to disable the virus, rather than as a delivery 
mechanism for the rna as has been suggested. You see where I was 
goingpure speculation, but its an interesting nefarious possibility 
that the vaccines, as delivered, may not just be a hijack factory of 
spike protein.


btw, Robert Kennedy did recently win a court case fighting against 5g.


thanks

max


On 8/16/2021 11:16 PM, Douglas Haack wrote:

Max,
see Graphene Oxide and 5G -- may be very dangerous . . .

https://plasmaenergysolution.com/?p=10391 



You have presented GOxide and Nano Silver -- the Ag is a dangerous Red 
Herring maybe, in this case  . . . .


Not sure if "Red Herring" is the best way to describe it -- but 
putting the nano silver in this mix, might bring your guard down and 
not notice the dangers of the GOxide . . .


I've read a few stories on the this danger. . .


dh


On Tuesday, 17 August 2021, 10:23:02 am AEST, Max  
wrote:



Some labs found lots of graphene in the vaccines, which I believe was
denied by the pharma cartels, I mean companies

"Graphene oxide-silver nanoparticles shown to rapidly neutralize RNA
viruses"

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210302/Graphene-oxide-silver-nanoparticles-shown-to-rapidly-neutralize-RNA-viruses.aspx 



should we be mixing our cs with herbs before use?

'Curcumin modified silver nanoparticles for highly efficient inhibition
of respiratory syncytial virus infection'
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26781043/ 





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CS>Re: CS>Re: CS>Vaccine Expert Vanden Bossche Calls For “Immediate Halt” To Vaccinations, Says They Encourage “Escape Mutant” Variants - LewRockwell

2021-08-17 Thread Cyndiann Phillips
He is a veterinarian.

Vanden Bossche’s scientific argument in broad terms is that the current
COVID-19 vaccines, through a mechanism analogous to antibiotic resistance,
will create mutant variants of the virus that escape the protection of
those vaccines. This problem will be exacerbated, he claims, because people
who have been vaccinated (and/or social distancing and staying inside
during the pandemic) will be less capable of fighting off those strains
than someone who has not been vaccinated. As we explain below, this
scenario is speculative, scientifically flawed, logically inconsistent, and
belied by actual data.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2021/03/26/geert-vanden-bossche/

On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 8:45 PM Linda Ellis  wrote:

> Crackpot?  Really?
>
> ·*Geert **Vanden Bossche* received his DVM from the University of
> Ghent, Belgium, and his PhD in Virology from the University of Hohenheim,
> Germany. He has worked for several vaccine companies (GSK Biologicals,
> Novartis Vaccines, Solvay Biologicals), serving various roles in vaccine
> R as well as in late vaccine development.  He joined the Bill & Melinda
> Gates Foundation’s Global Health Discovery team as Senior Program Officer
> before working with the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization
> (GAVI) in Geneva as Senior Ebola Program Manager. At GAVI he tracked
> efforts to develop an Ebola vaccine. He represented GAVI with other
> partners, including WHO, to review progress on the fight against Ebola and
> to build plans for global pandemic preparedness. He then joined the German
> Center for Infection Research in Cologne as Head of the Vaccine Development
> Office. In a summary of his findings regarding the Covid vaccination
> programs, he writes: “As of the early days of the mass vaccination
> campaigns, at least a few experts have been warning against the
> catastrophic impact such a program could have on global and individual
> health. *Mass vaccination in the middle of a pandemic is prone to
> promoting selection and adaptation of immune escape variants that are
> featured by increasing infectiousness and resistance to spike protein
> (S)-directed antibodies (Abs), thereby diminishing protection in vaccinees
> and threatening the unvaccinated.*”
>
> --
> *From: *"Cyndiann Phillips" 
> *Date: *Mon, Aug 16, 2021 6:00 pm
> *To: *silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject: *CS>Re: CS>Vaccine Expert Vanden Bossche Calls For “Immediate
> Halt” To Vaccinations, Says They Encourage “Escape Mutant” Variants -
> LewRockwell
> another crackpot
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 4:52 PM T. J. Garland < ironguard...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/08/tyler-durden/vaccine-expert-vanden-bossche-calls-for-immediate-halt-to-vaccinations-says-they-encourage-escape-mutant-variants/
>
>
> *All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for a few good men to do
> nothing. Edmund Burke*
>
>


Re: CS>prevent illness?

2021-08-17 Thread Cyndiann Phillips
There is no graphene in them!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/07/10/graphene-oxide-in-pfizer-covid-19-vaccines-here-are-the-latest-unsupported-claims/?sh=5cd258ed74d7

On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 8:23 PM Max  wrote:

> Some labs found lots of graphene in the vaccines, which I believe was
> denied by the pharma cartels, I mean companies
>
> "Graphene oxide-silver nanoparticles shown to rapidly neutralize RNA
> viruses"
>
>
> https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210302/Graphene-oxide-silver-nanoparticles-shown-to-rapidly-neutralize-RNA-viruses.aspx
>
> should we be mixing our cs with herbs before use?
>
> 'Curcumin modified silver nanoparticles for highly efficient inhibition
> of respiratory syncytial virus infection'
> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26781043/
>
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Re: CS>prevent illness?

2021-08-17 Thread Cyndiann Phillips
Evidently you don't know what a Covid long hauler is. They have issues for
many months.

On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 8:13 PM Max  wrote:

> Has anyone noticed they keep saying the Pfizer vaccine was not designed
> to reduce infection but instead to reduce serious disease?  This doesnt
> make sense if neutralizing antibody production is the vaccine
> principle.  Why?  Because, as I keep mentioning, covid is a two or three
> stage disease. Everyone defeats the virus in 7 to 10 days, including the
> ones that go on to die.  The cause of death is a hyperinflammatory
> response from a dysregulated immune system.  In other words, the
> vaccines dont appear to treat the cause of severe covid.  But the data
> seems to indicate a reduction in severe disease at least before the
> delta variant.   So this has me wondering;  what is in the vaccine that
> treats the hyperinflammatory response?
>
> This is pure conjecture, but imagine this sci fi scenario;  the vaccine
> includes some antiviral nanoparticle incorporating graphene oxide and
> silver  which reduces serious illness after the virus has already
> penetrated into the blood stream, but does not reduce nasal titers and
> thus infectiousness.  The population then very predictably causes
> evolutionary mutation of the virus, requiring a yearly vaccination
> schedule for new variants.
>
> Check out this overview including graphene oxide silver nanoparticles
>
> " In another report, GO sheets are reported to exhibit significant
> antiviral inhibition potentials toward enveloped feline coronavirus
> (FCoV), and incorporating silver particles into GO structure broadens
> its antiviral potential toward non-enveloped infectious bursal disease
> virus (IBDV) as well"
>
> " In a recent study, authors have attempted to investigate the antiviral
> effect of GO-Silver nanoparticles composite on the replication of
> porcine reproductive and respiratory syndrome virus (PRRSV) [38]. The
> results suggest that the exposure of virus with GO-AgNPs composite
> obstruct the virus to enter the host cell with 59.2% efficiency and also
> promotes the production of IFN-stimulating genes (ISGs) and interferon-α
> (IFN-α) that inhibits the virus proliferation"
>
> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7577689/
>
> as I understand it,  the IFN-α is key to the ability of the young and
> healthy to fight of covid and experience little if any symptoms of illness
>
>
> thanks
>
> max
>
>
>
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