CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2010 #808

[Costumes]

 make that  "Olive Leaf Oil"  ... 


Thanks Jan.
MA


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  Another idea is to put everyone (inc the patient) on Olive Oil Leaf. 
 jan 
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Mary Ann,

Whenever someone in our family is hospitalized, we bring Lysol (we 
didn't have CS then) to the room and spray every single item we can see, i.e., 
bed frames, bed tables, chairs, bathroom floors and walls, sinks, toilets, 
etc., we also clean glasses and water pitchers with hydrogen peroxide.  We also 
made sure that the nurses who came near the patient had gloves and masks on.

Will keep you and your hubby in our prayers.

Take care, be strong and try not to show him you worry. 

Melly


   

Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2010 #808

[Costumes]

Another idea is to put everyone (inc the patient) on Olive Oil Leaf. 
   jan


  Mary Ann,

  Whenever someone in our family is hospitalized, we bring Lysol (we didn't 
have CS then) to the room and spray every single item we can see, i.e., bed 
frames, bed tables, chairs, bathroom floors and walls, sinks, toilets, etc., we 
also clean glasses and water pitchers with hydrogen peroxide.  We also made 
sure that the nurses who came near the patient had gloves and masks on.

  Will keep you and your hubby in our prayers.

  Take care, be strong and try not to show him you worry. 

  Melly

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Re: CS> MaryAnn

[Costumes]

I understand the concept of the thermometer/temperature, and Im a graphic 
artist, so I understand resolution in regard to pixels ... etc ... but Im NEW 
to brewing CS ... so I need to learn the lingo  ( "uS"  ?? )  ... but I do 
understand what you are saying about the limitations of the testers being used. 
 jan


  Resolution has a very specific meaning.  To define a measuring 
instrument you have to know the range, accuracy, repeatability or 
precision, and resolution.  The understand what these terms mean see 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accuracy_and_precision

http://www.firsttenangstroms.com/faq/Resolution.html also discusses the 
different terms.

If your instrument has a readout that only reads integers, then the 
resolution would likely be 1, in the case of a TDS ppm, or for 
conductivity uS.  If it has one digit after the decimal it would be .1 
uS if it displays .1, .2, .3, .4 and so forth, but would be .5 uS if it 
displays .0, .5, .1.0 only. Giving a result which is more precise than 
the resolution of the instrument measuring it is meaningless.  For 
instance if you have a thermometer that reads in degrees F with no 
decimal part, and it reads 72, you cannot claim that the temperature is 
72.0 since the measurement could be off by .5 or even .999 degree.

Marshall





On 10/1/2010 7:23 PM, Costumes wrote:
> I tested my DW w the Hanna Tester from wishgranted.com. Prior to 
> brewing my CS, the unaltered DW was 0.
> Not sure what you mean by "resolution" ??
>   jan
> 
>   I have neve seen distilled water come in at 0. What are you testing
> with and what is it's resolution?
>
> Marshall
>
> On 9/30/2010 11:43 PM, Costumes wrote:
> > MA,
> > I tested my Walmart DW, and it was Zero.
> > Tested the first 3 quarts that I brewed on "fast" at a setting of 4,
> > with the silver particles, and they were all around 11.
> > Tested the fourth quart that I brewed on "standard" at a setting of 3,
> > without the silver particles, and it was 5.
> > So ... I guess Im moving right along  ;>
> > jan
> 


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Re: CS>On a personal note............

[Costumes]

... Now if we could just get my Dad to stop eating salt and sodium  The 
Dr's told him he HAD to make improvements in his diet ... but he has no 
intention of doing it   He could care less about trying to do HIS PART to 
protect his health.  If your husband shares your desire for good health, then 
that will certainly be a huge blessing on his behalf !!!  
jan



Hi Jan.  Thanks in advance for the prayers -- it's appreciated.  And thanks 
also for the encouraging words -- your Dad was only in the hospital for 4 days? 
 Wow -- that's amazing.  I hope my husband does as well.  Thanks for your post 
-- it's given me a bright ray of hope.
MA


--

  MaryAnn, my Dad (84) had his aortic replaced, and a tumor removed from the 
mytral valve ... back in the spring, in Atlanta.  The whole procedure went as 
smoothly as could be. He was in the hospital for 4 days, and now his heart is 
stronger than ever ... .  Will say some prayers for your hubby  :)
 jan 
--

  My husband is at the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio right now. He will have 
  open-heart surgery on Tuesday (aortic valve replacement and cardiac 
  myeomectomy). I'll be driving there on Monday to be there for the surgery, 
and 
  will remain in Cleveland while he's in the hospital. Of course, I'm worried 
  about the surgery itself, but I'm more worried about the opportunities for 
  infections while he's there. So I'm taking a gallon of CS -- is that enough? 
  I'd also like to take some CS gel (courtesy of Ode's kit). I don't know how 
the 
  hospital staff would feel about an unknown gel product on the incision 
itself, 
  so I may not get that done until we're out of there. Any advice from anyone 
  will be greatly appreciated.
  MA 
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Re: CS> MaryAnn

[Costumes]

Ive done several batches in the last couple of days ... setting 3, standard 
speed, all are testing consistently at 5ppm ... bottom of the jar is crystal 
clear and clean  and its only taking about 2 hours per batch. 
   jan

Re: CS> Dee - Home Distiller ?

[Costumes]

Dee,
How do you distill your own water ?? 
Did you buy a distiller, or just boil/steam your water on the stove ???

Do you start out with tap water, or spring water  
  jan


My home distilled water comes in at 0 on a TDS meter.  dee

Re: CS> MaryAnn

[Costumes]

I tested my DW w the Hanna Tester from wishgranted.com. Prior to brewing my CS, 
the unaltered DW was 0. 
Not sure what you mean by "resolution" ??
  jan


  I have neve seen distilled water come in at 0. What are you testing 
with and what is it's resolution?

Marshall

On 9/30/2010 11:43 PM, Costumes wrote:
> MA,
> I tested my Walmart DW, and it was Zero.
> Tested the first 3 quarts that I brewed on "fast" at a setting of 4, 
> with the silver particles, and they were all around 11.
> Tested the fourth quart that I brewed on "standard" at a setting of 3, 
> without the silver particles, and it was 5.
> So ... I guess Im moving right along  ;>
> jan

Re: CS>On a personal note............

[Costumes]

MaryAnn, my Dad (84) had his aortic replaced, and a tumor removed from the 
mytral valve ... back in the spring, in Atlanta.  The whole procedure went as 
smoothly as could be. He was in the hospital for 4 days, and now his heart is 
stronger than ever ... .  Will say some prayers for your hubby  :)
   jan


My husband is at the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio right now. He will have 
open-heart surgery on Tuesday (aortic valve replacement and cardiac 
myeomectomy). I'll be driving there on Monday to be there for the surgery, and 
will remain in Cleveland while he's in the hospital. Of course, I'm worried 
about the surgery itself, but I'm more worried about the opportunities for 
infections while he's there. So I'm taking a gallon of CS -- is that enough? 
I'd also like to take some CS gel (courtesy of Ode's kit). I don't know how the 
hospital staff would feel about an unknown gel product on the incision itself, 
so I may not get that done until we're out of there. Any advice from anyone 
will be greatly appreciated.
MA

CS>[List Owner] A little topic trim, please...

[Costumes]

My apologies. 
   jan   ... reaching for my duct tape ... ';} 


Hiya, Gang!

If I could get y'all to either end the political commentary thread or 
take it to the Off Topic list, it'd be very nice of ya, and your List 
Owner would be most happy.

That'd be the one with the Subject line that looks like:

CS>[Equine_Solutions_Network] people particles on bottom  of jar

Talking about Builder-Burgers and Alumi-nazis on the main list is a 
sure recipe for upsetting people and/or distracting us from the more 
important things we're doing. We've gotten by this time so far, but 
let's not push it, 'kay?

Instructions for joining the OT list are at the web site, 
www.silverlist.org ...

Peace, my silvery brethren and sistren...

Mike D.
list owner dude... <<= in strange mood.



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CS> MaryAnn

[Costumes]

MA,

I tested my Walmart DW, and it was Zero.

Tested the first 3 quarts that I brewed on "fast" at a setting of 4, with the 
silver particles, and they were all around 11.

Tested the fourth quart that I brewed on "standard" at a setting of 3, without 
the silver particles, and it was 5. 

So ... I guess Im moving right along  ;>
jan

CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2010 #800

[Costumes]

"the days of man are numbered"


  The 9-11 bill was just passed. The other day i received an email saying 
that in this bill was inserted an authorization giving Pres. Obama blanket 
authorization to assassinate American citizens for security reasons...I don't 
know if this insertion is still there or scratched out when passed but, just 
the same, friends, be careful.  Fed agents are getting meaner now. 

  We try to stay healthy and they bring radiation to our streets, homes, 
cars, etc..We can't win, can we?  They will make us sicker than we are now.

  We are also in this economic state partly because our gov't has so 
antagonized most of the world that they did not want to buy our products.  Our 
export market is hurting.  Remember Trump's anger when he came back from Europe?

  Maybe we will have gold-backed currency because no country wants to 
accept US dollars anymore for their exports.  Oil producing nations are 
demanding payments with any currency except US dollars.  This was why they 
zapped Sadam, he didn't want US dollars as payment for their oil exports.
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CS>[Equine_Solutions_Network] people particles on bottom of jar

[Costumes]

I thought that was supposed to be NATO, Lois ... 
Bilderbergs want to destroy the USA and take us down to less than 3rd world 
nation status ...The whole issue is that the globalists hate our guts, hate the 
republic, hate free enterprise ... hate capitalism ... and the way their 
playboy is laying the cards out on the table, they're in the process of making 
us militarily impotent .. So how could the USA stand as a world police agency 
?? When they're finished w us, we wont' even have the toilet tissue to wipe our 
own  
 jan
(Mike's probably looking at ME right now ... and going "oh nooo ... who 
let her in here??"  ...)  lol



  Don't quit, Lois.  
Didn't mean I'd quit messing with the govt.   Just trying to tell Mike I'd  
"try " to be good on the list..grin,, chuckle ---Did I say Try ??? Lois
  And with that--It is said that the builderberg group has already plans that 
the US will be the police force when the " world govt."  becomes a reality.L

CS>[Equine_Solutions_Network] people particles on bottom of jar

[Costumes]

my dip stick congressman hears from me so often  its a wonder his staff 
doesn't put a block on my email address ..Im sure my name's on homeland 
security's target practice hit list.


OK, so what is everyone doing about these issues?  If in the USA are you 
writing your congresspeople 'daily'  If in other countries are you writing 
the appropriate people to let them know how you feel? 

These are our representatives we need to tell them what we want or, like 
children, they will run amuck!

Just my 2 cents!
PT


   Monsanto 
  You don't even want to get me started on Monsanto  
  ';( 
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YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.  

Know this is off topic ... but "their purpose" is to destroy us. That's 
been the goal from day one. 
  jan 
  You think Walfart is bad--Check out a video called "Food Inc." & see what 
Monsanto is doing..We even have " novus credo securom " under the pyramid 
on our dollar bills. For some reason now you can't even find it when you do a 
search...Lois

CS>[Equine_Solutions_Network] people particles on bottom of jar

[Costumes]

 Monsanto 
You don't even want to get me started on Monsanto  
';(


  YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.  

  Know this is off topic ... but "their purpose" is to destroy us. That's been 
the goal from day one. 
jan 
You think Walfart is bad--Check out a video called "Food Inc." & see what 
Monsanto is doing..We even have " novus credo securom " under the pyramid 
on our dollar bills. For some reason now you can't even find it when you do a 
search...Lois

Re: CS>[Equine_Solutions_Network] people particles on bottom of jar

[Costumes]

YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.  

Know this is off topic ... but "their purpose" is to destroy us. That's been 
the goal from day one. 
  jan

  So many people are now buying groceries at Food Loin and Wallyworld that 
my GF was laid off at Lowes Foods this week...18 years experience.
The "High Enders" are  taking down steps to save money.

Word has it that Lowes is going to remodel..probably into a warehouse self 
serve min wage part timer employer...a step below even WM.
  They HAVE TO do it, or go bust.
  Part timers don't get bennies and there are HOARDS of folx looking for 
ANY sort of work.

I've recently hosted two financial refugee families..people living in tents 
on my land, with children.
GF [just turned 57 ] now lives in an old 1960 school bus like I used 
to.  Walked away from her mortgage just in time. [My "house" is 90% 
factory.. I sleep in the stock room. ]
  Her daughter, 3 kids and just back from Iraq hubby are living rent free 
in an squalid [destroyed by deadbeat ] mobile home I have that I was going 
to scrap.

  GF was offered the option of going part time, but 100 miles a day to get 
to work and back, for 4 hours work a day @ $12 an hour ain't worth it, not 
even in a 50 MPG 1991 Chevy Metro.
BTW  Middle management got the axe right after the shirker crowd leaving 
the cross trained multi tasking crowd getting over worked and stressed 
out...then THEY got thinned out.

  Remember the "Five and Dime" stores ?..that's  5 and 10 cents.
The Dollar Tree stores [nothing over a dollar] will have to re-name to that 
pretty soon"5 and 10" dollars.

.we're just getting started... "Fundamentally Transforming 
America"into "China" ?

Ode

Re: CS>[Equine_Solutions_Network] Silver particles on bottom of jar

[Costumes]

Oh good grief   oh dear me ... that is terrible news ';-{
(Im certified to talk >>> I worked at WM for 7 years ... and I know more about 
the "Walmart Way" than I ever wanted to know )



  And even more interesting is that my husband told me the other day that 
he read where WM is out of sorts because so many people ARE shopping at the 
dollar stores, and they figure they are loosing so much money to the dollar 
stores from what use to be spent in their stores, so they are going to open 
their own convenience type stores!!!   

  Samala,
  Renee

--

  And interestingly enough, Dollar General has opened 3 NEW stores around 
the outskirts of town, in the last year (not counting their original store 
downtown). EVERYONE is shopping at Dollar General these days, as a protest to 
the big WM store ..  ':)
  

 

Re: CS>[Equine_Solutions_Network] Silver particles on bottom of jar

[Costumes]

O ky !  :))
Thankx, MaryAnn ! 
   jan


Hi Jan.  There's really no reason to wait 72 hours to test your ppm-level.  The 
testers aren't terribly accurate, and you should know what ppm-level you have 
right after brewing anyway.  Your ppm-level is likely only going drop a couple 
of points, at the #3 setting on your generator.  I think you've gotten a 
mis-impression about the importance of the *stabilization period* -- it's 
really just an *interesting thing*, not something to gear your life around.  
There's no need to buy another generator -- the one you have will make larger 
batches.  Ask about that on the ESN list -- several members brew by the gallon.
MA

MA, I was going to wait till after 72 hours is up (right about now) to test for 
ppm level. Isn't there a 36 to 72 hour stabilization period ??? ... still 
trying to get all this straight in my mind.   I might have to do like Paula, 
and get the Silver Puppy that's designed to make larger batches -- for SenSee. 
 jan 
--

  OK -- there's your problem.  *Fast* mode isn't necessary, and may be 
contradictory to making a good brew.  Leave your Colloid Master set on 
standard.  You don't have to figure out how to change the polarity of the 
electrodes -- the machine does that automatically.  And no -- I could not scrub 
the jars out with soap and water -- soap can add a film that can be hard to 
remove, and could contaminate your brew for awhile.  You've got a good start 
cleaning the interior of your jar by making four batches and cleaning it with 
clean paper towels.

  Since you now have a quart of pretty good CS, I'd use that for SenSee -- 
rather than the original batches.  Since you used fast mode, you have created 
large-particle CS.  Won't kill her, but won't be as effective getting to the 
protozoa.  I'd save it for topical use instead.
  MA
  P.S.  You got a Hanna Tester, didn't you?  Did you test your batches to 
determine ppm-level?   

Re: CS>[Equine_Solutions_Network] Silver particles on bottom of jar

[Costumes]

I live in a small town.  When Super Walmart Center came to town they put all 
the small mom & pop places out of business. So now WM is our only choice -- 
except for Dollar General ... and interestingly enough, Dollar General has 
opened 3 NEW stores around the outskirts of town, in the last year (not 
counting their original store downtown). EVERYONE is shopping at Dollar General 
these days, as a protest to the big WM store ..  ':)
   jan


  Interestingly Consumer Reports this month did a comparison of Major VS 
store brands.

Marshall

CS>[Equine_Solutions_Network] Silver particles on bottom of jar

[Costumes]

MA, I was going to wait till after 72 hours is up (right about now) to test for 
ppm level. Isn't there a 36 to 72 hour stabilization period ??? ... still 
trying to get all this straight in my mind.   I might have to do like Paula, 
and get the Silver Puppy that's designed to make larger batches -- for SenSee. 
   jan


OK -- there's your problem.  *Fast* mode isn't necessary, and may be 
contradictory to making a good brew.  Leave your Colloid Master set on 
standard.  You don't have to figure out how to change the polarity of the 
electrodes -- the machine does that automatically.  And no -- I could not scrub 
the jars out with soap and water -- soap can add a film that can be hard to 
remove, and could contaminate your brew for awhile.  You've got a good start 
cleaning the interior of your jar by making four batches and cleaning it with 
clean paper towels.

Since you now have a quart of pretty good CS, I'd use that for SenSee -- rather 
than the original batches.  Since you used fast mode, you have created 
large-particle CS.  Won't kill her, but won't be as effective getting to the 
protozoa.  I'd save it for topical use instead.
MA
P.S.  You got a Hanna Tester, didn't you?  Did you test your batches to 
determine ppm-level?  



  From: Costumes costu...@dnet.net


  So I could go ahead and give that water (w particles on bottom of jar) to 
SenSee, my EPM horse ??  I would want to filter it for her, however !!  
  The first 3 quarts (from the same gallon of DW) had the silver particles on 
the bottom, and they did look to me like they'd fallen off the electrodes ... I 
had it set at 4, and I also had the generator set to "fast" mode.  

  When I did the 4th quart (from that same gallon of DW) I set it on 3, and 
also put it on "standard" speed -- and that 4th quart did not have the large 
particles ... but it did have what looked like fine silver "dust" on the 
bottom, but only a small amount about a half inch in diameter on the bottom of 
the jar.  The water is "steamed" ... which Don was asking about ... and I still 
have to figure out how to change the polarity of the electrodes ... Will try to 
work that out with my next gallon of DW    Im also going to try cleaning 
the electrodes w paper towel, which might not do as much damage to the surface 
of the electrodes -- meaning that such large particles would be less likely to 
sheer off  Oh, and will try cleaning the jars like you said ... I had not 
cleaned them.  So you would not scrub the jars out w soap and water 
   

CS>[Equine_Solutions_Network] Silver particles on bottom of jar

[Costumes]

That does not surprise me 
  jan



  My son worked at a local bottling plant which bottled water for the local 
retailers including China Mart.  All the water for ever container came from the 
same source.  Distilled water, spring water, drinking water different labels on 
bottles same water. The workers are told not to drink the water off the line 
because there is  too much chlorination other water available in the 
refrigerator where the chlorination was not so strong.  Be ware.

  Robert
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Re: CS>Patents on CS and Generators

[Costumes]

My first initial gut reaction is to ask How can anyone hold a patent on a 
silver particle - regardless of the size of the particle ???  
Sounds very "Monsanto" to me  When I use a polishing cloth to polish my 
silver candle sticks, or my silver earrings, Im polishing off nano sized 
particles of silver. So I guess they can get me for infringing on their patent 
???  
jan


I have a question for the gurus on the list.  The owner of another list that I 
am on, has publicly made the announcement that those of us who make our own CS 
are:
l) Creating a silver load in our bodies (and in our horse/dog/cat's bodies) 
that causes an imbalance with other minerals;
2) That ABC (?) holds the patent on small particle CS and that our generators, 
therefore, are illegal.

I have asked her permission to include her post below, and promised that I 
would share your responses with her.  So please - respond.  Thanks.
MA



  
Hello Again Mary Ann,

The people who came to me had generators like mine, that have no timer or 
regulator etc, so you never know what product you havemine is very old, 
about 15 yrs old...the original version. Therein lies the problem I 
thinkhowever, with the patents that ABC holds for the nano particle size, 
How can those generators you are using be legal? American Biologics does not 
sell them or authorize them.





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CS>[Equine_Solutions_Network] Silver particles on bottom of jar

[Costumes]

The first 3 quarts, which were done on the 4 setting, at fast speed, were like 
a mirror (slivers).
The fourth quart, which was done on the 3 setting, at standard speed, was like 
a whitish powder. 
   jan

   Are the Silver? [like a mirror] Or are they Silver Hydroxide...sorta 
whitish.
Ode


>Hey,
>Ive started brewing my CS ... using my new wishgranted Master generator 
>... set on 4 ... distilled water from Walmart, as suggested by wishgranted 
>... and glass canning jars.  Each jar that Ive brewed has a layer of 
>silver particles laying on the bottom of the jar.  What's up with that ???

CS>[Equine_Solutions_Network] Silver particles on bottom of jar

[Costumes]

So I could go ahead and give that water (w particles on bottom of jar) to 
SenSee, my EPM horse ??  I would want to filter it for her, however !!  
The first 3 quarts (from the same gallon of DW) had the silver particles on the 
bottom, and they did look to me like they'd fallen off the electrodes ... I had 
it set at 4, and I also had the generator set to "fast" mode.  

When I did the 4th quart (from that same gallon of DW) I set it on 3, and also 
put it on "standard" speed -- and that 4th quart did not have the large 
particles ... but it did have what looked like fine silver "dust" on the 
bottom, but only a small amount about a half inch in diameter on the bottom of 
the jar.  The water is "steamed" ... which Don was asking about ... and I still 
have to figure out how to change the polarity of the electrodes ... Will try to 
work that out with my next gallon of DW    Im also going to try cleaning 
the electrodes w paper towel, which might not do as much damage to the surface 
of the electrodes -- meaning that such large particles would be less likely to 
sheer off  Oh, and will try cleaning the jars like you said ... I had not 
cleaned them.  So you would not scrub the jars out w soap and water 
 jan



Hi Jan.  Usually when there is silver laying at the bottom of the jar, that is 
silver that scintered off the silver bars too fast, and is therefore too 
large-particle to remain suspended in the distilled water.  It could have been 
aided by some kind of film on the interior of the jar, or something less than 
perfect in the distilled water.

So -- first, I would empty that batch of silver (save it for topical use).  
Wipe the canning jar out with a clean paper towel, rinse with distilled water a 
couple of times, wipe with paper towel again.

Then -- set the unit up again and set the dial on 3 instead of 4.  See if you 
get better results.  If not, repeat the cleaning process of the jar -- 
sometimes it takes awhile to get any films off of the glass.  If the third 
batch still has a lot of silver particles, get another gallon of distilled 
water -- try a gallon from Walgreen.  If after all of that you're still getting 
a layer of silver, call Synergenesis and check with them.  It is possible that 
there's some kind of electrical glitch in the generator -- but I would exhaust 
the other possibilities first.  Usually it's the container or the water.
MA
P.S.  There's nothing wrong with the clear colloid in the top 3/4 of the jar.  
You can carefully pour that off and use it orally if you prefer. 




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From: Costumes 
To: equine_solutions_netw...@yahoogroups.com
Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 9:59:28 PM
Subject: CS>[Equine_Solutions_Network] Silver particles on bottom of jar


Hey,
Ive started brewing my CS ... using my new wishgranted Master generator ... set 
on 4 ... distilled water from Walmart, as suggested by wishgranted ... and 
glass canning jars.  Each jar that Ive brewed has a layer of silver particles 
laying on the bottom of the jar.  What's up with that ???  

The generator is behaving just like the intstructions said it would, w/o any 
issues ... Green light running all the time and cutting off when done ... red 
test light coming off and on intermittently 
jan

CS>[Equine_Solutions_Network] Silver particles on bottom of jar

[Costumes]

Hey,
Ive started brewing my CS ... using my new wishgranted Master generator ... set 
on 4 ... distilled water from Walmart, as suggested by wishgranted ... and 
glass canning jars.  Each jar that Ive brewed has a layer of silver particles 
laying on the bottom of the jar.  What's up with that ???  

The generator is behaving just like the intstructions said it would, w/o any 
issues ... Green light running all the time and cutting off when done ... red 
test light coming off and on intermittently 
jan

Re: CS>CS and killing of pathogens

[Costumes]

hum  glancing at my cleaning cabinet   :))
jan

  I think it was a study done at Brigham Young U that showed that as little 
as 3 parts per billion was enough to sterilize a test tube full of toilet 
bowl water.

Re: CS> New Member - Jan

[Costumes]

uuummm  brings more questions :>  But they will have to wait till 
tomorrow :)
good night 
   jan


[Okay if the ppm drops a couple of numbers, as it stabilizes, that is still a 
good thing,] 
-Yep, the silver didn't go anywhere, just changed in 'composition' if you like.

[as long as the ppm number does not go up, which would be in the direction of 
"clumping" and lesser quality. Correct ???]
-Nup, I don't believe it's of any lesser quality, just means some of those 
positive charged ions have collided with each other resulting in atomic 
clusters being formed, which I understand are negatively charged.


[So lets say you brewed it at 5ppm, two days later its tests at 7ppm, and you 
sit it on the shelf for one year, come back, test it again, ... will it be 7ppm 
??? ] 
-Personally, I've never had it go up after a couple days, my experience shows 
the readings can fluctuate a tad up or down dependant on water temperature on 
any given day I check my solutions, and I suspect that wouldn't change even 
after many months in storage.

[Its not that Im planning on leaving it on the shelp that long ... but I am 
concerned about storing it for my horse. She is stabled at a barn, away from my 
house, so Im going to be making about a week's worth of CS, and taking it to 
the barn for the people there to give to her on a daily basis.  So I am 
concerned about whether or not storing it that long will cause any issues for 
her. ]
-I don't see how it will cause any issues, other than that solution will have a 
lesser amount of positively charged ions.  This is where/why I choose which 
solution to use for a particular circumstance...do I use a solution 
*immediately* after production to maximise on the ingestion of positive charged 
ions, or do I use a solution that I've had in storage for some time which will 
have a lesser amount of positive charged ions and more negative charged 
particles?

[And I was told that I need to store CS in a "light proof" container, such as a 
milk carton -- or at least keep it out of the sun. ]
-I store mine in clear glass containers in a cupboard.

N.

Re: CS>CS and Lymes Disease

[Costumes]

Ive always heard it pronounced as "Lymes" too ... 
 jan


You might have to spell it correctly though. ( Lyme) no s.
Dave


On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:49 AM, j petras  wrote:

The "silver list" ,(Google will bring it up) has archives...tons of 
information from those who 
want to know about Lymes. I do not have direct knowledge of its' 
treatment myself.


I hope this helps.


John

--- On Mon, 9/20/10, Ron Minnick  wrote:


  From: Ron Minnick 
  Subject: CS>CS and Lymes Disease
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Monday, September 20, 2010, 11:24 AM



  Hi, my name is Doreen and I am looking for info on treating Lymes 
disease with CS..thank you in advance  

Re: CS> New Member - Jan

[Costumes]

Boy, this list is really making me feel "new"  ... lol ...
Okay if the ppm drops a couple of numbers, as it stabilizes, that is still a 
good thing, as long as the ppm number does not go up, which would be in the 
direction of "clumping" and lesser quality. Correct ???So lets say you 
brewed it at 5ppm, two days later its tests at 7ppm, and you sit it on the 
shelf for one year, come back, test it again, ... will it be 7ppm ???  

Its not that Im planning on leaving it on the shelp that long ... but I am 
concerned about storing it for my horse. She is stabled at a barn, away from my 
house, so Im going to be making about a week's worth of CS, and taking it to 
the barn for the people there to give to her on a daily basis.  So I am 
concerned about whether or not storing it that long will cause any issues for 
her.  

And I was told that I need to store CS in a "light proof" container, such as a 
milk carton -- or at least keep it out of the sun. 
jan


No -- lol -- I'll leave that one to Neville! There is some evidence, via our 
Hanna Testers, that the ppm-level of CS/EIS will drop a ppm or two within a 
couple days of brewing. Some refer to this as *stabilizing*. I believe that it 

is the contention of the knowledgeable members here that some of the ionic 
portion of the brew will change over to particulate matter, resulting in a 
lower 

ppm reading. The real question is whether it's the ionic portion that is 
effective in killing pathogens, or the particulate portion. Or is it both? I 
don't know the answer -- for my own purposes, it doesn't matter. But apparently 

Neville feels differently, and he was sharing that with Jan. So I'm looking 
forward to his answer, as I'm sure Jan is! :-)
MA





From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net

Thanks, MaryAnn. That was not clear. Do you know how to discriminate between 
the use of 'young' and 'old' CS? 

- Original Message - 
>From: MaryAnn Helland 
>
>PT -- EIS and CS are the same thing. EIS is just the term used here on this 
>list to differentiate the product that we make, vs. other silver products on 
>the 
>
>market. Neville was discriminating between the *age* of the product, not 
>referring to two different products.


From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net
>
>Would you give your 'opinion' on the differences between EIS and CS, Neville? 
>It might help to discriminate when to use which one.



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CS> New Member - Jan

[Costumes]

U ... I was planning on going for 5ppm ... and was under the impression 
that you could sit the silver water on a shelf for up to10 years and it would 
still be suspened (would not form clusters).  
Go easy on me!!!   Im just a beginner .. Not a scientist. :)
   jan


Hi there.
 You may want to consider experimenting with some solutions...
 (1) Use of a *fresh* batch, which will be when it's highest in electrically 
charged positive Ag ions, and consuming or administering a quantity immediately 
after cessation of the brewing process.
 (2) Or wait a couple of days until the solution has stabilized {less 
electrically charged positive Ag ions present and more particles or clusters}.

Re: CS> New Member - Jan

[Costumes]

heeeheee  ;>


Why do you think I recommended it?  ;-)
MA




Well, surprise, surprise, MaryAnn   ;>
Didnt realize you were here !!!
{{{ Thank You  }}} 
;>  jan 


Hi Jan.  I'm so glad to see you here.  I know that you will get lots of input 
on your situation.  So -- welcome.  And here's hoping for a brighter and 
healthier future for you and your EPM horse!!
MA

Re: CS> New Member - Jan

[Costumes]

Well, surprise, surprise, MaryAnn   ;>
Didnt realize you were here !!!
{{{ Thank You  }}} 
;>  jan


Hi Jan.  I'm so glad to see you here.  I know that you will get lots of input 
on your situation.  So -- welcome.  And here's hoping for a brighter and 
healthier future for you and your EPM horse!!
MA

CS> New Member - Jan

[Costumes]

Hello, 
I have just joined this group :)

Basically my story is that I was diagnosed w Fibromyalgia in 1998 ... but I 
have not sought a lot of medical care for it.  I knew that the doctors only 
want to stick you with a rash of narcotic strength drugs, which I cannot 
tolerate. So I just never go to the doctor. I just put up with it. But it does 
seem to be getting worse, so I need to do something.  Ive spent a TON of money 
on high quality supplements ... none of which seem to have helped  

A couple of months ago, two things happened >> 

1) I went to a holistic chiropractor, who muscle tested me for Bahesia, one of 
the Lymes Diseases. 

2) I have horses, and one of my young fillies was sick with EPM.  I joined the 
Equine Solutions Network group, and got a ton of advice about treating her with 
CS ... inc info on the fact that CS crosses the blood brain barrier (the EPM 
protozoa embed themselves in the horse's spinal cord, causing all kinds of 
neurological issues)   The manner in which fibromyalgia is destroying my 
life the WORST is the manner in which it is messing up my BRAIN.  Im a 
FOG-HEAD.  Im light headed, feel dizzy, stay spazzed out all the time ... etc 
... So when they said the CS crosses the BBB, my ears pricked up ... and 
everything just sounded like I needed the CS as much as my little horse needed 
it.  MaryAnne on Equine Solutions referred me to this group ... So here I am 
!!! 

I just ordered the www.wishgranted.com  Master generator, and it was delivered 
Friday ... so I really have not even had time to crank it up yet !!!  Have been 
busy with the horses all weekend. But I am looking forward to this, for my sake 
and for my horse's sake  :>
 jan dee