Re: CS>X-Ray (mammograms)
It came to me unattributed--go ahead and pass it around. *** j rigby wrote: > Loved it! > Can I borrow it? Do you have the source? ( for accreditation) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>X-Ray (mammograms)
Since its Friday, maybe some humor is in order? DByron *** Many women are afraid of their first mammogram, and even if they have had them before, there is fear. But there is no need to worry. By taking a few minutes each day for a week preceding the exam and doing the following practice exercises, you will be totally prepared for the test and, best of all, you can do these simple practice exercises right in your home. EXERCISE 1: Open your refrigerator door, and insert one breast between the door and the main box. Have one of your strongest friends slam the door shut as hard as possible and lean on the door for good measure. Hold that position for five seconds. Repeat in case the first time wasn't effective. EXERCISE 2: Visit your garage at 3 a.m. when the temperature of the cement floor is just perfect. Take off all your clothes and lie comfortably on the floor sideways with one breast wedged under the rear tire of the car. Ask a friend to slowly back the car up until your breast is sufficiently flattened and chilled. Switch sides, and repeat for the other breast. EXERCISE 3: Freeze two metal bookends overnight. Strip to the waist. Invite a stranger into the room. Have the stranger press the bookends against either side of one of your breasts and smash the bookends together as hard as he/she can. Set an appointment with the stranger to meet next year to do it again. You are now properly prepared! +++ The Boob Poem For years and years they told me, Be careful of your breasts. Don't ever squeeze or bruise them. And give them monthly tests. So I heeded all their warnings, And protected them by law. Guarded them very carefully, And I always wore my bra. After 30 years of astute care, My gyno, Dr. Pruitt, Said I should get a Mammogram. "O.K," I said, "let's do it." "Stand up here real close" she said, (She got my boob in line), "And tell me when it hurts," she said, "Ah yes! Right there, that's fine." She stepped upon a pedal, I could not believe my eyes! A plastic plate came slamming down, My hooter's in a vise! My skin was stretched and mangled, >From underneath my chin. My poor boob was being squashed, To Swedish Pancake thin. Excruciating pain I felt, Within it's vise-like grip. A prisoner in this vicious thing, My poor defenseless tit! "Take a deep breath" she said to me, Who does she think she's kidding?!? My chest is mashed in her machine, And woozy I am getting. "There, that's good," I heard her say, (The room was slowly swaying.) "Now, let's have a go at the other one." Have mercy, I was praying. It squeezed me from both up and down, It squeezed me from both sides. I'll bet SHE'S never had this done, To HER tender little hide. Next time that they make me do this, I will request a blindfold. I have no wish to see again, My knockers getting steamrolled. If I had no problem when I came in, I surely have one now. If there had been a cyst in there, It would have gone "ker-pow!" This machine was created by a man, Of this, I have no doubt. I'd like to stick his balls in there, And see how THEY come out. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>What About the Hulda Clark Frequency Issue?
Marshall, how did your son learn to dowse? Deborah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>CS/amoebas and histamine reactions
You know, I have to admit I didn't look. Too much of a wuss I guess--it was bad enough just thinking I had uninvited companions. But my understanding is that the enzymes should have broken down anything beyond recognition. I'd like to complete a story others here might find helpful. A few months ago I experienced a very severe histamine reaction, which is what spurred me into this course of treatment. Some on this list may recall that I originally assumed it was poison ivy and sought help here, only to waste 2 days due to my own misdiagnosis while the hives continued to spread uncontrollably. By day 3 the hives were onto my face and into nose, mouth, ears, eyes. I had never experienced anything like this in my 52 years--am not an allergic type, so this hit me out of the blue. Interestingly, once the hives had progressed to that point, the itching almost completely stopped. It was like some damned science fiction special effect. Having no idea what else to do at that point, I went to an MD and got a single steroid shot--which horrified me since steroids are known to shut down the immune system. Three hours after the shot there was a violent reaction--a sudden intense full body hot flash along with an eruption of vivid red blotches all over. It was as if everything that had been suppressed by taking generic benedryl for 3 days suddenly expressed itself with a vengeance. Called the MD's office and was told to take a prescription antihistamine and call tomorrow if not better. Not better? I thought I might not make it. And not a word of warning from the MD about a possible reaction like that nor any advice as to what I might need to do in case of a future histamine reaction. Just gimme the $125--thank you very much. The result of all this was a decision that the only thing to do to prevent a future reaction was to start a cleansing regimen. I was fortunate enough to find the fellow I'm working with who thinks, as chiropractors do, that if the spine is in good shape your system will be able to handle most anything. My intention however is to proceed with a liver cleanse of some kind when this parasite treatment is complete. My best guess is that the trigger for the histamine reaction was a pesticide, perhaps malathion, that had been covertly applied to a ditch I had mowed the day the reaction began. Other than that, I have no idea what caused it, which is scary. If anyone has any additional advice on prevention, I'd love to hear it. Deborah ** Garnet wrote: > > Have you seen any parasites in the toilet bowl? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>CS/amoebas
Garnet, The olive leaf tincture I'm taking (olea europaea) is by Energique Herbal, the dose being 30 drops. The Grapefruit seed extract is in capsule form by Imhotep (called Seed-a-Sept)--the dose being 3 caps (125 mg. each cap). These 2 are the parasite killers and should initially be taken at rate that allows the body to adjust to a maximum dose over a 3 day period (day one: one dose 3X/day; day 2: two doses 3X/day; day 3: three doses 3X/day--then continue at this level for 10 days; take a 7 day break, followed by another 10 days, same protocol). Apparently the enzyme formula capsules (Inflammase by Progressive Labs) is an important part of helping to digest and eliminate the bad guys. The formula includes bromelain, catalase, superoxide dismutase, pancreatin, amylase, lipase, trypsin, and alpha chymotrypsin--same protocol as above. And then another vitamin/mineral formula in tablet form called Disc-Guard by Dee Cee Labs contains as well 250 mg. of MSM per tab.--2 tabs 3X/day. One final product that I think was just something I needed personally and not necessarily part of the cleanse is called Chemo-companion by Doctor's Natural Therapy and is antioxidant/vitamin formula. Immune system support, although I'm not a cancer patient. I must also say that I didn't feel particularly well during the first cycle of pill-taking but have felt progressively better and better over the break period--the most interesting improvement being what I can only describe as a notably improved sense of clarity. The chiropractic adjustments have also worked very well on some old neck and mid-back pain and are probably just as important as the meds, if not more so. Actually I've been quite surprised at the immediate relief from the adjustments. Deborah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>CS/amoebas
I'm currently doing a parasite cleanse for what my naturopath/chiropractor diagnosed as the microscopic kind. If amoeba falls into this category, and its true as I've heard on this list that CS doesn't get far enough into the gut to do any damage to beneficial flora (and therefore maybe not not to amoeba in all cases), then you may need to take other botanicals. My protocol includes olive leaf extract, grapefruit seed extract, enzymes and a couple of other combo products one of which contains MSM--taken for 10 days, followed by a 7 day break, and then 10 more days to take care of the egg/cyst reproduction cycle. I'm just about to start the second phase of the remedies and must say I do feel better. If anyone would like more detailed information on the specifics of this protocol, I'd be glad to post a more comprehensive list of the ingredients. Deborah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Black Walnut Tincture
I learned to succuss my tinctures during the time they're soaking, swirling the liquid in it's bottle in a figure eight twice a day--this is supposed to help imprint the energetic pattern of the walnut into the liquid (in addition to extracting the substance). Anyone else do this? Deborah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Black walnut tincture
Greetings Brickey, Could you please go ahead and post the recipe for making black walnut tincture. I have a couple of these trees myself--even the nut meats taste medicinal, great in ice cream. Thanks, Deborah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>aspartame news
Dear Marshalee, I'm worried about your well being in the situation you've described. If things are as bad as you've said, please go talk to someone who can help you evaluate matters and get some support--an objective viewpoint. Or maybe some help finding a way out. After all, you can't continue to help anyone if you're depleted and run down yourself. And swallowing abuse is no way to live. Other options do exist--you've just got to get a therapist or minister to help you get matters into perspective. Take care and please don't put it off, Deborah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Coke Cravings--Almonds
If you like almonds, try raw almond milk as a substitute for dairy. So simple--just blend up some raw almonds with good water and strain out the almond residue (I use small muslin bags). You can run the residue through the blender 3 times, using lesser amounts of fresh water each time, before getting all the good out of it. Bottle and refrigerate--absolutely wonderful in coffee, sauces, etc. Deborah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>old shingles etc
And most people are somewhere in between really good and sh_t. There's no reason to make those facing health challenges feel any worse than they already do. After all, even the best constitutions can be overwhelmed by toxic environmental factors. Deborah William Meyer wrote: > > some people have really good constitutions. > some people have sh_t constitutions. > there are many other factors, but one of them is your constitution. believe > it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>CS supplier needed in Southern California
Does anyone on this list live in/close to Orange, California? There is a young woman recently relocated to that area who needs a supply of fresh CS until she decides whether to buy a generator. I'm sure she's willing to pay a reasonable price. This is a great opportunity to help out someone open to CS that has no network of contacts locally as yet. Deborah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: shingles
An MD friend of mine sent the following on shingles. Since I've never heard that shingles was a condition that usually only occurs once, like the related chickenpox, I decided to post his remarks on possible immune system implications. Deborah In response to the testimonial about recurring shingles: I wonder if this person's illness is really shingles. As far as I know, people generally get shingles once in their lives. It's possible to have them more than once, but "recurrent shingles may indicate an underlying problem with the immune system such as leukemia, Hodgkin's disease, other cancers, atopic dermatitis, HIV infection, or AIDS." I bring it up as a possibility because there is no mention of underlying disease which would be unusual if the person had one of these. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>hives
Dear Nenah, Marshall-- I've been taking some 30C Rhus Tox and can't see any improvement. Are all homeopathics equally good? Perhaps I have a bad batch. I do understand to wait awhile to take it before and after ingesting anything, brushing teeth, etc. And re: steroids, prescription only as far as I know (in the US anyway). Thanks--if its not one thing, its another. Deborah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>hives
Can anyone tell me whether there is a safe for humans steroid available commercially through farm co-ops that would treat hives (allergic reaction probably to poison ivy). Thanks, Deborah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Wood Deck and Balcony
Oxalic acid (available in powder form) can be mixed with water and scrubbed into wood with a stiff long handled broom while washing a deck with a garden hose to refresh its color. At least it works on redwood. Deborah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Antibiotics linked to rising rates of allergies
Antibiotics linked to huge rise in allergies http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns5047 NewScientist.com news service The increasing use of antibiotics to treat disease may be responsible for the rising rates of asthma and allergies. By upsetting the body's normal balance of gut microbes, antibiotics may prevent our immune system from distinguishing between harmless chemicals and real attacks. "The microbial gut flora is an arm of the immune system," says Gary Huffnagle at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbour. His research group has provided the first experimental evidence in mice that upsetting the gut flora can provoke an allergic response. Asthma has increased by around 160 per cent globally in the last 20 years. Currently about a quarter of schoolchildren in the US and a third of those in the UK have the condition, but pinning down the causes of the rise has proved difficult. Some researchers have blamed modern dust-free homes, while others have pointed to diet. Antibiotics have been implicated by some epidemiological studies. For example, the rise in allergies and asthma has tracked widespread antibiotic use. Furthermore, research in Berlin, Germany, has found that both antibiotic treatment and asthma were low in the east compared to the west when the wall came down. As antibiotic use has increased in the east though, so has asthma. This study is particularly valuable because the politically divided populations were genetically very similar and enjoyed much the same menu. Now Huffnagle has presented experimental evidence to back up the case. His team gave mice a course of antibiotics before feeding some of them with a yeast which is commonly found on human skin. With the natural gut bacteria suppressed by the drugs, the yeast became established in the mouse, with no side effects. Over the course of the following two weeks, the researchers treated all the mice with spores from a common fungus. Again, this does not cause disease, but fungal spores can trigger allergies in people. The mice whose gut flora had been manipulated, experienced a much higher immune response to the spores, suggesting that changes to the collection of microbes in people's guts following antibiotic treatment might also make us more susceptible to allergies. "Suddenly, your ability to ignore a mould spore has gone," Huffnagle told New Scientist. The team has repeated the experiments with a second strain of mice to show that the effect is not dependent on a particular set of mouse genes. They have also used a different molecule to produce the allergic response - an egg protein from chickens called ovalbumin that is commonly used in allergy research. In this case, when the team looked at the animals' lung linings under a microscope the effect of the over-active immune response was striking. "Their lungs are shredded, absolutely shredded. I'm sure they can't breath," says Huffnagle. He speculates that our gut bacteria are somehow involved in training the immune system to ignore harmless molecules that wind up in our stomach. Precisely how they do this is a mystery though. "He's on to a very special track," says Juneann Murphy an expert in stomach bacteria at the University of Oklahoma in Oklahoma City. "No one else has been able to make the connections before." She says the findings reinforce the message that antibiotics should be used only when absolutely necessary. She also suggests that patients who have just finished antibiotic treatment should also receive "probiotic" tablets containing "good" gut bacteria. Eating foods such as raw fruit and vegetables also helps to restore the natural balance in our guts. "Once you are done with the antibiotics you are not finished," adds Huffnagle. "You need to recover from the treatment itself." The research was presented at the American Society for Microbiology general meeting in New Orleans on Wednesday. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>leaching plastics
The gallon plastic jugs that most distilled water is sold in looks very much like the standard milk jugs that leach. I wonder if we should be storing purchased distilled water in something else as well. Deborah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Malaria questions
Hi Heather, Quinine is, or at least used to be, the conventional prophylactic for malaria--small amounts taken orally several weeks in advance of possible exposure and then during one's stay. I never heard of antibiotics being used as a preventative. Deborah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>spider bite treatment success
The spider bite located on my neck has gradually faded away. I don't know what kind of spider it was but will list the remedies I used, FYI: Day 1: a quarter-sized inflammation developed with slight itchiness; coincidentally, our local newspaper ran a full-page article that day on a child who nearly died from a recluse bite (was on dialysis in intensive care for weeks due to kidney failure). Ran in and swabbed my bite with a mixture of 50/50 CS/DMSO plus a little gentian violet. Day 2: husband noticed the inflammation was a bit larger, otherwise no change; swabbed again with above mentioned mixture which caused itching to worsen. Remembered DMSO might be contraindicated for venom as it might carry the venom further into the tissue (people report differing experiences on this point). Worried I might have really goofed up, esp. after viewing Wayne's pictures, I applied a raw onion poultice for several hours. Day 3: Bite no better, but certainly no worse. Applied clay/CS poultice (that was changed once) during entire day. Day 4: Inflammation about the same, but no larger than on Day 2. No pain, no color changes, faint occasional itching. Decided to stop treatments and see what happened. Since then (this is Day 6) inflammation has faded gradually, is still visible but obviously on its way out. My sincere thanks to everyone who offered suggestions. It helped, more than I can say, to know that I probably had time to try the less invasive treatments first while assured that other methods were available if needed. If the situation had gradually worsened, I probably would have consulted Christine next for the essential oils, with electrical treatment as the last resort. Deborah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Spider Bite Zapper?
Hello Marmar845, I'm assuming you've had direct experience, then, seeing an electro-stim unit stop the necrotic action of a spider bite. I'd sure appreciate hearing more details. Thanks, DByron -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Spider Bite Zapper
With a spider bite located on my neck, close to what functioning brain cells I have left, I am distinctly not crazy about the idea of zapping myself with 25,000 volts. Has anyone seen any information about the MINIMUM voltage necessary to destroy venom? DByron -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>spider bite
After reading the archives on Wayne Fuggit's treatment of a presumed recluse spider bite, I have a few questions: Wayne initially used a heating pad. My understanding up til now has been that you'd want to apply ice to a fresh bite in order to inhibit the spread of the poison. Wouldn't applying heat have the effect of spreading the venom? Several people said that the necrosing damage done by a recluse bite is caused by the neurotoxic venom. Why then are antibiotics the conventional treatment? Although I certainly would want to use an alternative, they do seem to effectively stop the necrosing, for the people who go that route. DMSO is helpful in general because it carries CS used with it deeply into the tissue and also reduces swelling. However, it apparently has the effect of releasing histamines when applied to bee stings and is thus contraindicated there. Wouldn't DMSO possibly carry spider bite venom more deeply into surrounding tissues? Might it not be appropriately used later during the bacterial phase of the problem? The experiences of 2 people in my community with bad spider bites indicated that MDs tend to take a wait-and-see approach before using antibiotics. They sometimes draw a circle with a pen around the wound and advise waiting to see if there is a spread or other worsening. In both of these 2 cases the bites healed without treatment, but neither person knew with certainly what kind of spider had bitten them. So it could be that some people are not as allergic to recluse venom as others, as with bee stings. It could also be that most of the self-healing bites aren't those of truly venomous spiders. The dilemma is, of course, that if its a truly bad bite, the longer you wait the harder treatment will be. On the other hand, if you try every alternative willy-nilly, you'll never know what it was that worked and you risk developing some false ideas about what did the curing. I suppose its better overall to try several things, be less clear about what exactly worked, but be rid of the problem without a huge medical bill. Wayne was incredibly courageous, imo, and we now can all benefit from that. Thanks to everyone who has responded, Deborah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>for Wayne Fugitt
Dear Wayne, Would you please contact me off list--I'd like to ask you about your experiences with spider bite treatment. Thanks, Deborah laqueren...@mindspring.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>spider bite
I'd appreciate some advice about spider bite treatment, which may be that of a brown recluse. Before remembering that DMSO releases histamines and thus probably shouldn't be used on insect bites, I dabbed it with a mixture of 50/50 CS:DMSO plus a little gentian violet. After 24 hours it looked about the same (quarter sized red area surrounding the darker colored little bite lesion. Actually the red area might now be a bit larger, not much, so decided I had nothing to lose by dabbing it again with the same mixture. Now it really itches. As a person who would use antibiotics only as a last resort and certainly doesn't want the super drug given for something like this, I need to know what regimen to follow in case this is a recluse bite. Drink lots of CS? I have a small silverpuppy and make my own. Thanks, DByron -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Transfer Factor
Could someone explain the source of this and other colostrum products, how it is obtained from the animals, etc.? Thanks, Deborah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>water quality
Hoping this isn't too off-topic--a question about household water filters (after checking the archives). I'd like to find a source of independent testing information on the performance of household water filters. So far, all I've gotten comes through the sellers of filters which is not really the best situation. Testing for chlorine of course can be done with kits available from swimming pool suppliers--my concern is with heavy metals, pesticides etc. I was sold a rather expensive copper/zinc cartridge a couple of years ago and now am questioning whether it actually adds metals. Fyi, one seller just told me he doesn't even sell shower filters because in his opinion they don't work--says water is forced through them too quickly to remove much chlorine. Thanks in advance, Deborah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Silver For Infected Tooth
Garnet, consulting an acupuncturist might help you find a way to avoid a root canal, as you continue using CS. Apparently acupuncturists strongly discourage the destruction of any nerve tissue, as happens in this procedure. You also might be able to get a referral to a dentist willing to use minimal intervention approaches when possible who will try to help you save the tooth. Best of luck with this, Deborah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Detecting Silver In The Blood
I strongly disagree. Human beings create the need for testing--let all medical/drug testing be done on willing human subjects and stop the rampant abuse of lab animals. The results obtained will have greater correspondance to reality. Deborah > Matthew McCann PE wrote: > > Hi, Paula, > > Your experience with CS/EIS goes to show that > the hypothetical in-vivo experiment should, for reasons > of bio-ethics, be done only on lab animals. > An initial infection would have to be induced if > none already existed. > > Best regards, > > Matthew > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>need help-teeth
I should have added that I combine dry ingreds. to have on hand and then mix with the wet only when ready to brush. Otherwise the peroxide would fizzle out. DB _ DByron wrote: > > Being new to the list I'm not sure whether this particular homemade > toothpaste has been shared, but I've found it helpful with gum > problems. Now I use CS in the formula, as well as the peroxide/CS > mouthwash learned about here. > > water (or CS)-- 1 tsp. > 3% hydrogen peroxide -- 1 tsp. > salt -- 1/8 tsp. > baking soda -- 8 tsps. > > Deborah > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>need help-teeth
Being new to the list I'm not sure whether this particular homemade toothpaste has been shared, but I've found it helpful with gum problems. Now I use CS in the formula, as well as the peroxide/CS mouthwash learned about here. water (or CS)-- 1 tsp. 3% hydrogen peroxide -- 1 tsp. salt -- 1/8 tsp. baking soda -- 8 tsps. Deborah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
