Re: CS>Seeking help form the experts

[Frank & Cindy Welch]

Well Im no expert but

Whenever I get into a conversation about CS with someone that hasnt been 
exposed to alt-medicine, I try to throw in some encouragment to be 
proactive when it comes to your health. 

You dont have to be a super jock to be able to keep yourself healthy, 
and I am not going to wait until I am on my deathbed with tubes running 
in and out of my body to get a second opinion or at least listen to some 
advice that my help me.





Do you know what they call the guy that got a D- in medical school?


"Doctor" !



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CS>LVDC Colloidal Gold?

[Frank & Cindy Welch]

Taken from 
http://www.pridelabs.us/cs/ps30.htm



LVDC Colloidal Gold?

The PS30 has been 'experimented' with successfully in making low PPM 
(under 5ppm) LVDC naturally charged Colloidal Gold. These experiments 
have made clear Colloidal Gold, not the larger particle Reddish or Ruby 
colored Gold being sold on the market. Low PPM LVDC Colloidal Gold has 
been shown by blind tests to be effective and useful in as little as 1 
PPM. LVDC Colloidal Gold takes anywhere from 4 to 16 hours to experiment 
with and sometimes can only be pushed to a few PPM above your initial 
baseline. The PS30 is NOT guaranteed to make LVDC Colloidal Gold in any 
PPM amount, it can only be used to make experimental LVDC Colloidal Gold.



HVAC Add-ON Module: Makes a smaller AC Generated Colloidal Particle, but 
all HVAC Modules are for EXPERIMENTAL USE ONLY and PRIDE LABS does not 
guaranty your ability to make HVAC, Silver, Gold or Copper.




Does anyone have any detailed procedures for making colloidal gold?  I 
had heard that Low Voltage didnt work to make CG , and didnt want to put 
out the $$ for the hi-voltage module, but am now concidering it.

I use the Pride labs PS-30 and make about a gallon of CS a week.



Brew Cell:  Gallon Sun Tea Jar
anode:  5" #14 . silver wire
one inch separation
2 cathodes: 7" #12 . silver wire
air pump bubbler
brew temp: 120 f.
usual brew time 4 - 5 1/2 hrs




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CS>LVDC Colloidal Gold?

[Frank & Cindy Welch]

Taken from 
http://www.pridelabs.us/cs/ps30.htm



LVDC Colloidal Gold?

The PS30 has been 'experimented' with successfully in making low PPM 
(under 5ppm) LVDC naturally charged Colloidal Gold. These experiments 
have made clear Colloidal Gold, not the larger particle Reddish or Ruby 
colored Gold being sold on the market. Low PPM LVDC Colloidal Gold has 
been shown by blind tests to be effective and useful in as little as 1 
PPM. LVDC Colloidal Gold takes anywhere from 4 to 16 hours to experiment 
with and sometimes can only be pushed to a few PPM above your initial 
baseline. The PS30 is NOT guaranteed to make LVDC Colloidal Gold in any 
PPM amount, it can only be used to make experimental LVDC Colloidal Gold.




HVAC Add-ON Module: Makes a smaller AC Generated Colloidal Particle, but 
all HVAC Modules are for EXPERIMENTAL USE ONLY and PRIDE LABS does not 
guaranty your ability to make HVAC, Silver, Gold or Copper.





Does anyone have any detailed procedures for making colloidal gold?  I 
had heard that Low Voltage didnt work to make CG , and didnt want to put 
out the $$ for the hi-voltage module, but am now concidering it.




I use the Pride labs PS-30 and make about a gallon of CS a week.

Brew Cell:  Gallon Sun Tea Jar
anode:  5" #14 . silver wire
one inch separation
2 cathodes: 7" #12 . silver wire
air pump bubbler
brew temp: 120 f.
usual brew time 4 - 5 1/2 hrs




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Re: CS>PWT & its Limits,

[Frank & Cindy Welch]

A similar thing happened a few months ago here.  My local store carried 
"IGA" brand DW that was reading 0.9 - 1.4 uS/cm.  This was around the 
time I started to increase the anode : cathode size ratio and was trying 
out my new PWT!  The local store switched distributors for their DW to 
"SureFine" and this brand of DW runs at  3 - 4.5 uS/cm. and when I made 
my usual gallon batch of SC it ended up pale yellow (the dogs didnt 
notice the difference).  I switched to Wal-Mart DW an have a stock of 12 
gallons of Wal-Mart DW that is reading at 0.9 - 1.4 uS/cm.  I will have 
to find some pure DW when this runs out!  I really liked the IGA brand.


This initial finding was made with a TDS but I didnt quite trust it 
knowing the accuracy limits of the meter.  My newly arived PWT confirmed 
the difference.


I just bought me a pack of white shoe laces that will be used on the 
cathode in my next brew.  I am using the PS-30 Generator from PrideLabs 
but it doesnt control the current as fine as I want it so I am working 
on a cuircit to control the current.  It will probly be a LM-334 to keep 
it at 25 uA/sqin of anode area.  


I like my PWT!

Frank


/*PS-30 Generator from PrideLabs
Brew Cell:  Gallon Sun Tea Jar
cathode:  5" #14 . silver wire
one inch separation
2 anodes: 7" #12 . silver wire
air pump bubbler
brew temp: 120 f.
usual brew time 4-5 1/2 hrs
crystal clear CS @ 12-14 ppm
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Re: CS>sick dog(s)

[Frank & Cindy Welch]

It definatly can generate some heat.  I have never felt anything 
uncomfortable with diluting the DMSO  with CS down to 10% DMSO : 90% 
CS.  You will get a very large amount of DMSOs benefits from this 
concentration. 

If you have real sore muscles or a sprain or pull that needs the heat, 
mix it up a little stronger.  Ive mixed it up 40% for some painful lower 
back strains but you have to be ready for the heat cause it goes very deep.


I have an over weight pug that gets a sore leg occationally and 10-20% 
DMSO rubbed in twice a day fixes him up in a day or two.


With  the 10% DMSO solution I added about half a teaspoon of  Aloe Vera 
and made a solution that killed a wart on my hand I had for over 12 
years, and Cindy got rid of two plantar warts that we had spent large 
sums of $$$ on name brand wart remover systems.


I believe 'OldBob' has a protocall for nebulizing with it and CS for 
getting deep penetration into the lungs??


Its good stuff!

Here is a little reading on DMSO

http://www.dmso.org/articles/information/herschler.htm
http://www.bulkmsm.com/research/msm/page3.htm




Sue7/27/03 5:56 PM


What is DMSO?  I saw that mentioned elsewhere but don't know what the letters
stand for.   
Sue


Shirley Reed  wrote:
You can rub the Vit. E and Vit. A into the skin. Much of it will be absorbed.
If after rubbing it in, you put a few drops of DMSO on the area and rub that
just a bit, that will take more of it in.

*
Sue, consider this -- DMSO STINGS, so be sure to
cut it at least 50 / 50 with water, and if you will be
using it in combination with CS, then it would be a
good idea to use distilled water to dilute the DMSO with.

As I said DMSO stings -- try putting some on your forearm
to get an idea of the type of pain it can cause.  I don't want to
frighten you away from DMSO's  use, but you should know
about the pain reaction -- strangely, no one on this list ever
mentions this characteristic, or maybe I'm just a big sissy.
BE sure to avoid the eyes - I'm sure that would hurt like
crazy.

Jack


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CS>Dogs Water

[Frank & Cindy Welch]

We tried the medication anti-fungal) the Vet gave us with minimal 
rersults.  I think the active ingredient was the same as Tinactin or 
Aftate so we switched to generic stuff for the outside and ran thru 2 
doses of oral anti fungal  ().  It was a week after the oral stuff 
ran out that I made my first few  batchs of CS in a quart mason jar. 

We bathed him (and his two buddies) every second or third day.  50/50 
with tap water and 20 ppm CS for their inside drinking water and used a 
spray bottle for the CS at least 3 or 4 times a day right on the yucky 
spots and in his ears and in the rolls of fat and on his face and just 
everywhere and seen a marked improvement by the end of the first week.  
By the end of the third week it was all gone!   Keep it wet on the area 
to be treated for at least 5 minutes or longer.  Good Stuff!!  You cant 
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Re: CS>Dog's water/: CS>Fw: CS>DW/Question

[Frank & Cindy Welch]

I mix about a quart (old brown glass apple wine jug) of CS into about 3 
gallons of tap water for my three dogs once  a week.  It does turn just 
a little cloudy when its mixed and after a few water changes you can see 
some fine grey film on the white plastic parts of their water thingie, 
so some of the silver is probly falling out when its mixed with the tap 
water but the dogs have never felt better and my whole family takes a 
few ounces a day


It was my Pugs fungus infection that got me started on CS in the first 
place.  The visit to the Vet was $175 the first time and $65 again three 
weeks later.  A few Google searches and I was on this board and less 
than a month later my CS generator showed up in the mail for less than 
the cost of the medication for my dog.


Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me twice, shame on me!



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Re: CS>hope not a dead horse,,

[Frank & Cindy Welch]

I keep my CS in a German flippy top bottle in the fridge, so its nice 
and cold.  I hold it under my tounge until its body temp and then some 
before I swollow it. 

I mix about a quart (old brown glass apple wine jug) of CS into about 3 
gallons of tap water for my three dogs once  a week.  It does turn just 
a little cloudy when its mixed and after a few water changes you can see 
some fine grey film on the white plastic parts of their water thingie.


and as far as dead horses go.I like # 14.


DEAD HORSES

Tribal wisdom says that when you discover you are riding a dead
horse, the best strategy is to dismount. However, in this ever 
competitive world,

we often try other strategies with dead horses, including the following:

1. Buying a bigger whip.
2. Changing riders.
3. Saying things like "This is the way we always have ridden this horse."
4. Appointing a committee to study the horse.
5. Hire a consultant to study the horse.
6. Arranging to visit other sites to see how they ride dead horses.
7. Increasing the standards to ride dead horses.
8. Appointing a tiger team to revive the dead horse.
9. Creating a training session to increase our riding ability.
10. Comparing the state of dead horses in today's environment.
11. Change the requirements declaring that "This horse is not dead."
12. Hire contractors to ride the dead horse.
13. Harnessing several dead horses together for increased speed.
14. Declaring that "No horse is too dead to beat."
15. Providing additional funding to increase the horse's performance.
16. Do a CA Study to see if contractors can ride it cheaper.
17. Purchase a product to make dead horses run faster.
18. Declare the horse is "better, faster and cheaper" dead.
19. Form a quality circle to find uses for dead horses.
20. Revisit the performance requirements for horses.
21. Say this horse was procured with cost as an independent variable.
22. Promote the dead horse to a supervisory position.
23. Claim that "The other guys' horse is deader than ours."




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Re: CS>Ole Bob's spellchecker

[Frank & Cindy Welch]

That would be Electrically Isolated Silver to you!



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Re: CS>CS in the fridge?

[Frank & Cindy Welch]

I like it better if its cold.  It does reduce the aftertaste. 

My 13 years old daughter is the only one out of 5 (8 if you count the 
dogs) that objects to the aftertaste, and MAN does she!!  Gaging noises, 
yucky face and heebe jeebies all at the same time!


Frank



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Re: CS>Silver Allergy?

[Frank & Cindy Welch]

My Mom wore a bracelet we fashioned out of 24" of . silver for 12 
hours overnight with absolutly no reaction. 


She swished with CS first thing this morning and all is well.

Her allergy to Nickle (we think) is exaclty as you dsescribe in yourself. 


 Still, she is wise to be cautious. What about getting some extra
silver wire, as you would use for the electrodes in making CS (.999 or
.) and making a ring from a bit of it and have her wear that and
see if she reacts? With nickel, I get the bumps, blisters and weeping
sores very fast--about 3 hours in some cases.

She says she can feel the bumps itching under her skin before they break 
out and agreed that some outbreaks could come on very quickly.


Thanks All!

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Re: CS>Silver Allergy?

[Frank & Cindy Welch]

Excellent Idea.  I have some extra wire and we made a bracelet.  We 
should know one way the other in just a little while.


She doesnt feel that it is gonna cause her any kind of reaction, but I 
just want to be careful before she injests any.


Thanks for the good idea!

Frank



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Re: CS>New to CS

[Frank & Cindy Welch]

   *   /From:/ *John D Crafa*
 

   * /Date:/ Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:30:33



Start slowly and work up to the higher doses. 


This is a handy page -  http://www.silvermedicine.org/silveruse3.html


Frank



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CS>Silver Allergy?

[Frank & Cindy Welch]

Hi gang.

My mom is interested in starting to take CS but she has had allergies to 
all kinds of metals her whole life.  Rings, watches, earrings, 
bracelets, metal rivets in Levi's,  glass eyeglass frames, safety 
pins.anything metal that touchs her skin for just a few minutes 
makes her break out in tiny itchy bumps and blisters.  We are trying 
applying small amounts to the back of her hand to see if she reacts.  I 
would not want her gargling and drinking CS if it will create an alergic 
reaction on the inside!


Does anyone have any info on anything like this?  From seeing what it 
has done for my family she really wants to try it but we want to do it 
safely.


Thanks for any help

Frank



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CS>Current Regulation - Constant Voltage?

[Frank & Cindy Welch]

Ooops  The anode is the one with the little  plus sign, right?  I always 
get 'em mixed up!


I am gonna try the shoelace trick.

I got this suggestion for my current regulation problem.  Looks like I 
need to make a trip to Radio Shack.



recommend using the LM334.
This will let you regulate currents way below 1 ma, should you choose to do
so, whereas the LM317 and other voltage regulators usually cannot regulate
current reliably below a few ma.

LM334s are available for less than $1 from mail order parts houses, e.g.
www.Jameco.com .  A 330 ohm resistor will set the constant current to about
0.2 ma.  If you search for LM334 (e.g. with Google, etc.) you can find and
download data sheets that tell you how to calculate a resistor value for a
given current.  Or, just put a 22 ohm resistor in series with a 500 ohm
potentiometer and set the current to whatever you want.  Put a milliamp
meter in series with the wire to one of the electrodes and set the current
by adjusting the pot, using already brewed CS as your current "load".

With adjusting the current to 1.2 - 1.6 milamp per sq in of  anode area 
should prevent the sludge buildup?


My power supply cuts into constant current mode about an hour into the 
brew cycle( but is still too high.)   I start out at 30 VDC and when the 
brew is reading 12-13 on the PWT the voltage is being throttled down to 
18-20 VDC. 

If I use this LM334 curent limiter for a preset current to the brew 
cell,  I will need to set my power supply to provide more amperage than 
my curretn setup, thius preventing the unit from entering the constant 
current mode.  Thus I will be using a steady voltage throughout the 
process.  Is 30 VDC the place to start?  I can adjust from 0-32 VDC with 
this unit.


Thanks for keeping me on my toes!!


Frank Welch


Brew Cell:  Gallon Sun Tea Jar
cathode:  5" #14 . silver wire
one inch separation
2 anodes: 7" #12 . silver wire
air pump bubbler
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CS>Current Regulation and PWT Correction Factor

[Frank & Cindy Welch]

I am using  the PS-30 from Pride Communications in my setup and making 
crystal clear CS (EIS) a gallon at a time 4 - 6 times a month. 

The few brown floaties and sludge build up arent as big of a problem as 
my wanting to tweak my process and increase the quality of my CS.  (Hey 
'Old Bob'! where do you buy the shoelaces you use?)


This is a 30 VDC/ 3 amp adjustable power supply but will only adjust 
reliably down to 0.01  to 0.02 amps.  I am looking to put an inline 
current regulator (LM 317 or similar) on the cathode line.  There is a 
chart that shows the different current outputs with different resistors 
installed between the "output" and "Adjust" terminals but I cant find 
it.  Does anyone know where this is on the web?


With my current setup approx surface area of the cathode is 3.554 sq 
in.  Some recommend 1 milamp per sq in. of cathode area..some recommend 
up to 3.  Either way I need to regulate my current to 3.554 milamp 
(0.003554 amp) or 10.662 (0.010665 amp).  What milamp - to - surface 
area guidelines does everyone use?  Just off the cuff.I could run 3 
identical brew cells and regulate it with this power supply, or just 
increae my total cathode surface area to over 10 sq in.  That would take 
40 inches of #12 wire.  (Just trying to maintain some perspective.)


My Wal-Mart DW starts out at 0.6 to 1.0 on my PWT and I brew until it 
hits 12-13 usually and it drops down to 10 - 11.5 after a day or two.  
This is the same as when I used only one cathode but the Tyndal effect 
is much less pronounced (with a laser pointer) with the two cathodes. 
I am using 2 cathodes now but am thinking about upping it to 4 or 8 to 
increase the surface area. (Yes Bob, I am still reading your plots!)  I 
have heard that the correction factor of 1.2 is not accurate when you 
increase the surface area of the cathode?  Does the correction factor 
increase, decrease, or become totally unreliable?


Suggestions?Advice?.Discussion?.
Thanks!

Frank Welch


Brew Cell:  Gallon Sun Tea Jar
anode:  5" #14 . silver wire
one inch separation
2 cathodes: 7" #12 . silver wire
air pump bubbler
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CS>Re: CG Drawings

[Frank & Cindy Welch]

I havent tryed making Colloidal Gold yet but I want to.  I would 
appreciate anything you are willing to give me.


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re: CS>cs and dmso

[Frank & Cindy Welch]

	"The degree of suffering one is undergoing is a factor in determining 
what one is willing to impose on others."

Shirley Reed, 2003

Quite profound!

Using this mixture out of the eyedropper bottle lets you get right to 
where you need it so you use less. We havent noticed any odor except 
right after application.


Frank


 I use a mixture of 60% CS to 40% DMSO for cuts, bruises and muscle
 pulls, and scrapes (and it killed my wifes plantars wart in about 6 
weeks).

 We apply it with a cotton ball and despence it from an old eye dropper
 bottle.  You want to cut back on the DMSO to 10-20% if you use a spray
 bottle, maybe even less, because it is some very penetrating stuff!  My
 family of 5 goes thru about 6-8 oz a month and it doesnt loose anything
 between batches.  Its good stuff!

 Frank



 List,  Should dmso and cs be applied separately or
can they be mixed in the same bottle and sprayed on
the area to be treated?  If they can be mixed, how
long will the solution be any good?Also, my dmso
is 99.8 (or .9)--anyway, very pure and comes in a
thick white plastic bottle.   As I understand it, we
need to use not less a concentration of dmso than 10%
to be effective against virii.  Is this true also for
fungi?I assume that a little bit more dmso than
10% will be ok too.  Thanks.   pj

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re: CS>cs and dmso

[Frank & Cindy Welch]

I use a mixture of 60% CS to 40% DMSO for cuts, bruises and muscle 
pulls, and scrapes (and it killed my wifes plantars wart in about 6 weeks).
We apply it with a cotton ball and despence it from an old eye dropper 
bottle.  You want to cut back on the DMSO to 10-20% if you use a spray 
bottle, maybe even less, because it is some very penetrating stuff!  My 
family of 5 goes thru about 6-8 oz a month and it doesnt loose anything 
between batches.  Its good stuff!


Frank




List,  Should dmso and cs be applied separately or
can they be mixed in the same bottle and sprayed on
the area to be treated?  If they can be mixed, how
long will the solution be any good?Also, my dmso
is 99.8 (or .9)--anyway, very pure and comes in a
thick white plastic bottle.   As I understand it, we
need to use not less a concentration of dmso than 10%
to be effective against virii.  Is this true also for
fungi?I assume that a little bit more dmso than
10% will be ok too.  Thanks.   pj

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CS>Questions for Ole Bob

[Frank & Cindy Welch]

Good morning Ole Bob and Andy all all that are folloing this list.

Following these posts, on my last batch I switched the cathode to a #14
silver wire with 5" of wetted depth, and 2 anodes each one #12 silver
wire at 7" wet for a total of 14".  I figure roughly 4:1 anode to
cathode ratio.  My generator started out at 30 VDC and I set the
current at 0.025A.  On both batches I did like this at the 3 hour mark
the voltage had dropped down to 18-19 VDC and  I had 11-12 ppm with a
strong Tindal but not quite as strong as my previous batches.  I had
all 3 electrodes clipped to the rim of a gallon sun tea jar with the
cathode in the center with about a 1" spacing.  I use a fish tank
bubbler for stirring and heat everything up to 110 deg for the
duration.   2 gallons of crystal clear CS.  I should get it tested in a
lab so I know exactly what I have but all indications are that this is
some premo stuff.   I am working on a way to increase the anode  size
more, and a cheap way to bring the temp up to around 150 or 160.

What current and electrode spacing are you using with these setups?  

I wouldnt mind the longer brew times but might need to find a way to
limit the current on my generator.  I am about fine tuned as low as it
will go.  Maybe some inline resistors??  Got to get out the books and
do some cipherin'.

Thanks

Frank

  1,19 V 
ran 17.5 hours, 
5 volts ran  15 hrs. 
9 volts ran 5.25 hrs. 
12 volts ran 1.25 hrs. 
18 volts ran70 minutes 
27 volts ran 60 minutes 
  Then
there were a number of other runs 32 since 1/13/03. 
  Silver
oxide starts at 1.229 volts. The peroxide appeared above 20 volts. 
  Without
mechanical stirring you will get agglomeration and larger particles.
  "Ole
Bob" 
    
1.19,5,9,12,&18 volts and it
is as bright and shiny as when I started." 
Perhaps I misunderstood you. I thought
you were running each batch for 48 hours. Does agitating the water make
a difference regarding whether silver oxide or silver peroxide is formed
or is that a function of the voltage? 
In your opinion, is the small particle
size you are producing a function of the large anode? 
I make 2 gallons at a time in a fish
tank.I use 37 volts with a 12.67 
current regulator in the
positive line. This is my wide anode 
and small cathode setup. At 7
hours I get about 8 PPM and at 10 hours 10 
PPM. The TEM shows that this is
sub-nm to 24 nm in size. No one except 
Sovereign Silver comes anywhere
near that small size, or biological 
effectiveness. 
  






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