Re: ppm measurement techniques?
Great and creative ways to seperate the silver from water, but why not just weigh the solution? 1 litre of pure water weighs 1 Kg so anything over 1000gms is silver. Better yet! You could weigh the electrodes before and after(dried). Anybody got any ideas on how to build a scale sensitive enough to register the small amounts? Is a beam type scale practical? Just a couple thoughts. Regards...Frank M. G. Devour wrote: > We could save some money and get quicker results if some of us could > do our own ppm testing. Here's a couple of ideas I'd like to discuss > and, hopefully, refine enough to make work. > > The first idea is to evaporate a quantity of CS to be tested, say > 100 ml (1/10th of a liter), and weigh the residue. 100 ml of a 20 ppm > CS will leave 2 milligrams of residue. To get resolution to 1 ppm > would require sensitivity to 1/10th of a milligram. > > So, ideally, you'll need access to an analytic balance sensitive to > tenths of milligrams. This is a cut above your most common lab > balances which will only handle milligrams. This type will typically > have the measuring pan in a glass enclosure to stop drafts from > effecting it. Otherwise you'd have to evaporate a much larger sample. > > I see putting the CS in a bag, bottle or funnel and allowing it to > drip slowly onto a piece of absorbent paper. The paper would be held > with clips over a heatlamp or hot air blower to evaporate the water. > > If you can get hold of some IV drip fittings you'd have the ideal > setup, but I assume we could kludge up something with more common > materials as well. > > The paper would need to be weighed before and after, and the results > would be the difference between the weights. > > Now, right off, there are problems with this method. One is taking > care that body oils and dust don't contaminate the paper and cause > it to weigh more than it is supposed to. You can take care to handle > the paper with gloves or tweezers, and perhaps enclose everything to > minimize accumulation of dust. > > Another problem is knowing the exact state the silver is in when > you're weighing it. Is it pure silver? Silver oxide? > > We could try using a few drops of nitric acid to "digest" the silver > to form silver nitrate, which is one of the few silver compounds > that is readily soluble in water. > > Now of course, we'd have to find out how the left over acid reacted > with the paper. It would be easy to do a test with just the nitric > acid in distilled water, and see how much weight the paper gained, if > any. If all the nitrate hangs around then we *might* just be able to > subtract it out and call the balance silver. The chemistry could > prove to be more complicated, however. > > Which brings us to the *other* possibility, which is an entirely > chemical assay that uses pH or some other characteristic with > reagents and an indicator to standardize and visualize the reaction > and allow you to measure the silver present by quantity required. > > If anyone knows a chemist who could help us with that it could save > us a lot of effort. > > So here are some ideas. If I've convinced you an in-house ppm test > would be useful, I hope you'll help me get one of these ideas > working, or suggest another. > > Be well, > > Mike D. > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] > [mdev...@mail.id.net ] > [Speaking only for myself... ] > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Off topic (chorella)
Interesting, the bloke that was promoting it as a good thing was predicting it's use as a complete/only food during the global famine he "remote viewed". Regards...Frank skieski...@aol.com wrote: > Don't know how to grow it but would like to caution you on the use of it. My > husband was DX'd with ALS almost 2 years ago we think brought on from heavy > metal toxins. He was amechanic for 30 years. We have been Detoxing him for 4 > months with the use of chlorella but we found out we were using too much it > not only takes out the bad minerals it also takes out the good minerals. So > again I caution you on the use in extremes we were extreme up to 25 capsuls > aday. The Doctor has cut him back to 3 grams aday or approx. 8 caps a day. It > has only been a week but we are noticing a little more strength not that you > have much strength with this disease. Good luck on your search > Cindy > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Off topic (chorella)
I heard the same one. I also wondered if it was possible to do it at home. If you find out let me/us know. Regards...Frank Harvey Flatbush wrote: > Hi List, > > Is there anyone on the list that knows how to grow their own Chlorella as > mentioned by Ed Dames on the Art Bell talk show several months ago? > > Thanks much, > > Harvey > > Harvey Flatbush < > ha...@iomet.com >http://www.iomet.com > < Ione, Washington > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: OT: Brain fog anecdotes
Hi Tom, Can you describe this liver flush procedure for me? Regards...Frank Tom Young wrote: > Just a personal note... > About 3 years ago, I also had a form of "brain fog" and very low energy. About > that time I first read Hulda Clarks book "Cure for All Diseases" and did some > of her liver flushes. My energy and awareness greatly improved and I highly > recommend the procedure. > > ...Tom -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Plans for stovetop distiller please?
Apparently a couple of months ago someone posted some plans or instructions for stovetop distilling. Does anyone still have a copy of these posts? I must have joined just after and Imissed them. If anyone finds them could you either repost them or email them to me please? Thanks in advance...Frank -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS and digestive bacteria
Thanks to all who contributed to this thread. Since I wrote in I have received a little more info on Yakult and there is a web site here in Oz, www.yakult.com.au. But it's under construction so I'll have to wait and see what they include as they go along. The Lactobacillus casei Shirota strain apparently survives gastric and bile acids to actually get to the small intestine. It's cultured at 37C (body temp) and fermented for 6 days (all my favorite things are fermented)and then has added citrus fruit flavours. This is slightly different to yoghurt, certainly longer in the making, and I was hoping to find someone who had made up their own. I'll give it a try myself and come back with any meaningful results if I have any. Regards...Frank -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: More technical questions.
Bruce K. Stenulson wrote: > Frank (& List) > > I'll offer my 2 cents worth: > > SNIP > > Your measurement probes are the critical factor; make a set simply by > taking the cap of a 35mm film container, and inserting 2 small stainless > steel machine screws about 3/8" apart, with the heads flush with the > surface you will set against the CS water surface. Hook meter leads to > these two screws. If you get more elaborate and use solder lug > connections, with good connectors on the oposite ends to plug into your > meter, you can begin to get consistant, reproducable results. > Great idea ! I'll do it. > The Hanna Instruments TDS1 is inexpensive and consistant; it adjusts for > temperature, too. Unfortunately this is not available in Australia and apparently discontinued as a model. Someone here is getting the TDS 601 and I'll ask him about that one when he gets it. > Briefly: Fabrication of your own distillation equipment was discussed > about 5 weeks ago; Stainless steel is recommended, (Stainless Steel > Pressure cooker with a fabricated / added SS "splash guard" inside over > the steam outlet) with Nylon II tubing being able to handle high > temperature for condenser fabrication, inside a CPVC water jacket; High > temperature silicone rubber tubing will provide flexible couplings where > needed; clean all components thoroughly before drinking the finished > product! > Unfortunately I joined after it would have been discussed then. Is there an archive? Or perhaps someone could email it if they happen to have kept it? > There's a lot more info on CS on 'The Alternate Health Approaches Forum' > at: > > http://web.idirect.com/~showcase/althealth > > Bruce K. Stenulson > Applied Technology Thanks very much for your help Bruce. Regards...Frank -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
More technical questions.
Just curious, but is there any difference in using rectified AC as opposed to DC current in the making of CS? My generator is based on Thomas Miller's design using a 24 Vac transformer rectified to provide DC. Now, this as I understand it, would supply the DC at what ever pulses the supply is (in Australia 50 Hz). So what difference if any does the 50 per sec pulses of electricity do to the production rather than a continuous consistent supply? What's the best way to measure the conductivity of my water before and after? I have used a digital mutimeter which didn't register anything meaningful. And also an old old old multimeter I built myself years ago. This gave me the following readings which I'm not confident of trusting. I noticed different readings depending on how much of the probes I immersed. Tap water 50k ohm Filtered tap water 50 k ohm My first CS batch 200k ohm(unknown ppm and made using the distilled water below) bottled distilled waterunreadable Is there a simple circuit I can construct to measure this? Does anyone know of the best or simplest way to make distilled water on the stove top? I remember some mention of a dual stage process to get rid of the low volatile impurites first. Any ideas ? Hopefully other people also benefit by my questions and any answers given, hopefully I can eventually contribute once I get going fully. Regards...Frank -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS and digestive bacteria
There has been some talk of taking oral CS may disrupt the good bacteria we all have in our digestive systems. Now that I'll be taking CS fairly regularly I figured that to counteract any decline in the good bugs, that I would counteract by eating some live yoghurt every day. Also there recently came on the market here in South Australia a product called Yakult which has live Lactobacillus casei Shirota strain. I have no idea how good this stuff is but if you believe the brochures it is just the stuff for re establishing a healthy intestinal population. Any thoughts on the my "theory" ? Also do we have any expert yoghurt makers out there? This Yakult stuff is about 70c for a small daily dose bottle (30 mls) and if anybody is familiar with it or it's making I'd like to try to "cultivate" my own. Thanks in advance. Regards...Frank -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Finally - My first attempt ! How did I do ?
To save multiple messages I've replied to a few in this one message. M. G. Devour wrote: > Sounds like you got everything together just great... > > > There was absolutely no reaction and I had to toss in > > about 10 ml 0.9% sodium chloride solution (irrigation sachet from > > pharmacy) and it roared off. > > I you'd have waited as much as a half hour, you'd have seen the > reaction begin. It just takes longer without salt. The reaction > actually was getting going, but too slowly to see. I'll try that with the next batch and see how I go Cisco wrote: > Frank, > > Ditto.salt, if any impurity exists in the H20 will cause a > undesired > reaction and possibly a toxic effect.if I could in my limited > abilities suggest somethingleave salt, of any type, out of your > base. > > Cisco That seems to be the consensus. Next batch I won't be so impatient and just let it go without and see what happens. Dean Woodward wrote: > I don't know why no one I have read after ever mentioned the artistic beauty > of the filmy, diaphanous web of particles which comes off the cathode when > things really get going. I am going to try to create some art from this. > Yes, post them when you get some good ones It's not me wrote: > I haven't had much success with just rubbing the CS in topically. > What > usually works is to saturate something with CS and leave it in contact > with > the infected sight for some time. Cold sores get about 10 min. and > other > nastier infections get overnight or several days. I would think that > with > Mastitis, you would want the CS in contact at least overnight. > There was a recipe for gelling CS somewhere I'll chase it up and perhaps try that. As for a progress report: my wife says that although not much better (yet) it hasn't got worse. It was fluctuating between worse and better when it first started but it is now consistent at the lower end. Thanks all. Regards...Frank === -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Finally - My first attempt ! How did I do ?
Well, after lurking for ages and humming and hahing, I finally got around to making not only the generator but a first batch ! Tonight. My generator is based on Tom Miller's design, 24 VAC rectified and using 20 Ma. I have 2.5mm fine silver wire electrodes. I decided on using the same on both trodes figuring I would simply alternate which was the anode. That way I have double the electrode life without worrying about whether a different metal cathode would affect the quality of my brew. I had 6 cms (almost 2 1/2") immersed into 250 ml (8 oz) of distilled water. I haven't got around to making my own distilled water yet (not sure which way to go) so I bought some bottled stuff from the supermarket. There was absolutely no reaction and I had to toss in about 10 ml 0.9% sodium chloride solution (irrigation sachet from pharmacy) and it roared off. I used the irrigation sachet because I assumed that being pharmaceutical grade it "HAD" to be pure NaCl and better than table salt. So I let it brew for 10 mins. There were reasonable quantities of small bubbles coming from one electrode and there was a slight milky haze around the other with it slowly building up a whitish/creamy surface. Towards the end a milky tail was starting to drop down underneath it. The solution itself, when completed, had a slight white opaque appearance to it. I tasted it and there was a "floury" taste to it. Not unpleasant or bitey, just - something! The residue on the cathode was a creamy white on the outer surface to an almost grey close to the metal. It came off easily just by rubbing my fingers over the wire. My wife is uncomfortable with a bit of mastitis at the moment and I remembered reading something somewhere that it helps. But wouldn't you know it ! I couldn't remember whether you had to drink it or rub it in. So being the caring husband that I am, I wanted to make sure I helped so I insisted on both drinking and topical application. Naturally I volunteered to put it on. And folks, I'm convinced this CS stuff must work because I feel better already after putting it on for her! But I'll let you know later whether she does. So what do you think? Am I off and running or did I just get a cheap thrill? Regards...Frank -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Position of electrodes ?
Is there a minimum distance from the sides of the glass jar that the electrodes should be? And is there an optimum or recommended distance between the electrodes? How does the seperation distance have any effect on the production of CS? Thanks in advance...Frank -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Simplify?
M. G. Devour wrote:
Snip
> The question I ask is, why do you need higher ppm? The silver will
> get into your body as well from an ounce of 30 ppm as 3 oz of 10 ppm,
> won't it?
>
Snip
A reason some people might want to take higher ppms is related to the way in
which they take their CS.
If you are drinking it your point is quite right, but I seem to remember a
recent post where someone said that they were taking theirs under the tongue
("sublingually") so that the CS didn't interfere with their intestinal
flora. Whether it does or doesn't I don't know, but it seems to be logical
idea. At least something to think about.
Any other ideas?
Regards...Frank
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Re: silver reaction and How much distilled water is too much?
The below brings up another question. I once asked on another list (can't remember) about drinking distilled water and whether this would be better/quicker for eliminating impurities. I was told to be careful about drinking too much distilled water as it can tend to pull out too many essential minerals etc because of distilled water's tiny/zero saturation level. So how much distilled water is too much to drink? Regards...Frank jein...@troi.csw.net wrote: > > Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 13:59:54 -0400 > > From: clete jackson > > Subject: silver reaction > > To:silver-list@eskimo.com > > Reply-to: cle...@infoave.net > > Organization: general tire > > > Hello Silver list > > Being new to this list..I have a question. I have been taken CS for > > approx. 3 weeksin large quanties. I have developed an all over > > the body itchingrash. Is this normal?? > > Clete > > > Clete, > This could be caused by the body trying to detox through the skin. > Try a sauna, or just get in a hot shower or tub so you will sweat, > and try to get the toxins out. You might also try dry brushing the > skin to help losen up the toxins. > I doubt it is an allergic reaction to the silver, but you might need > to back off on the silver a bit to give the body a chance to clear > the toxins out. Also, and enema would help move the toxins out, as > would drinking lots of distilled water. > Take Care! > Jim Einert, N.D. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Replacing/renewing the silver electrodes
Dean Woodward wrote: > I must be missing something here. Is there something "wrong" with solder, or > is it just inconvenient?? I guess the risk of the solder becoming immersed in the solution giving you "colloidal lead" and whatever else is mixed in with the solder ! Regards...Frank -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Voltage & Current.
Christian von Wechmar wrote: > Hi there Frank and list, > > > Another article states that the smaller the particles > >the lighter the colour. Clear for best/smallest, light yellow for > >acceptable, then onto to brown, green and gray for much bigger > >particles. > > I made some clear HVAC CS with a huge particle size (0.114 micron). My > light yellow CS made with 30VDC has a particle size smaller than 0.026 micron. How did you check the particle sizes ? Is the HVAC unit commercial or did you make it yourself and what voltage does it run at? Regards..Frank -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Voltage & Current.
Sorry Dean, He changed it to http://www.bioelectrifier.com/silver.htm I didn't know till your message (almost straight away). Whenever a link doesn't work, always try going backward to check where it went. And I'll check that it works b4 I post :) Dean Woodward wrote: > I am unable to access the Thomas Millar article cited here. It must have > been removed from the Infocom server. Does anyone have a copy I can borrow?? > > Dean > > -Original Message- > From: Frank Matzka [mailto:fmat...@senet.com.au] > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 1998 4:37 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject:Voltage & Current. > > I know there was a couple of articles recently about how much silver > is in a CS solution based on calculations relating to current in the > production process. These articles referred to current but not > voltage. Can we assume that voltage is not relevant in any way to the > production. (sorry for my electrical ignorance). I ask this because > I've seen various devices described running from 1 X 9 volt battery, 3 > X 9volt batteries, plug packs supplying 30 volts etc. > > The Thomas Millar article (http://www.infocom/~thomil/silver.htm) > suggests that the particles are produced by "mechanical" action, the > current knocking off small particles of silver as it passes through > the solution. If so then presumably the higher the current the bigger > the particles. And this is where the colour comes into it > (apparently). Another article states that the smaller the particles > the lighter the colour. Clear for best/smallest, light yellow for > acceptable, then onto to brown, green and gray for much bigger > particles. > > However. Thomas Millar says that the longer you take to produce a > solution, the more likely you are to form chemical compounds with any > of the impurities or salts in the solution. As I understand it pure > distilled water is not conductive and at least a tiny amount of sodium > chloride is required to allow current to pass thru it. So there will > always be at least some silver chloride in with the colloidal. > Apparently most silver compounds are described as being a pale yellow > colour so I suppose it's hard to destinguish between optimum silver > particle size and the amount of impurity in any given solution. > > I also presume that a larger electrode surface area would produce any > given ppm concentration faster than a smaller one. eg a 1cm strip of > silver would be faster than a 12 guage wire. Is this correct? And if > so how can we calculate the difference? > > Does the conductivity of the solution change as the ppm goes up? I > ask this because Bob Lee mentioned in one of his posts that his > current starts low and slowly rises as it goes along. > > Sorry to barge in with so many questions without so much as an intro > from me :) But you guys have convinced me CS is worth a go and I'll be > building a generator as soon as I clear up the above. > > Best regards ... Frank > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Voltage & Current.
I know there was a couple of articles recently about how much silver is in a CS solution based on calculations relating to current in the production process. These articles referred to current but not voltage. Can we assume that voltage is not relevant in any way to the production. (sorry for my electrical ignorance). I ask this because I've seen various devices described running from 1 X 9 volt battery, 3 X 9volt batteries, plug packs supplying 30 volts etc. The Thomas Millar article (http://www.infocom/~thomil/silver.htm) suggests that the particles are produced by "mechanical" action, the current knocking off small particles of silver as it passes through the solution. If so then presumably the higher the current the bigger the particles. And this is where the colour comes into it (apparently). Another article states that the smaller the particles the lighter the colour. Clear for best/smallest, light yellow for acceptable, then onto to brown, green and gray for much bigger particles. However. Thomas Millar says that the longer you take to produce a solution, the more likely you are to form chemical compounds with any of the impurities or salts in the solution. As I understand it pure distilled water is not conductive and at least a tiny amount of sodium chloride is required to allow current to pass thru it. So there will always be at least some silver chloride in with the colloidal. Apparently most silver compounds are described as being a pale yellow colour so I suppose it's hard to destinguish between optimum silver particle size and the amount of impurity in any given solution. I also presume that a larger electrode surface area would produce any given ppm concentration faster than a smaller one. eg a 1cm strip of silver would be faster than a 12 guage wire. Is this correct? And if so how can we calculate the difference? Does the conductivity of the solution change as the ppm goes up? I ask this because Bob Lee mentioned in one of his posts that his current starts low and slowly rises as it goes along. Sorry to barge in with so many questions without so much as an intro from me :) But you guys have convinced me CS is worth a go and I'll be building a generator as soon as I clear up the above. Best regards ... Frank -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
