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Re: CS>Re where we are from

[Jeannie]

As all my posts state at the bottom, I'm Jeannie McReynolds from the Oregon
coast.

Bill Missett wrote:

> For those who are posting their home nations to this list,  I am keeping a
> separate running list of all names and countries, which I will post when we
> complete it.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tel Tofflemire" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:48 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>Re where we are from
>
> > Tel Tofflemire
> > Dewey, AZ
> >
> > Laura Maxwell wrote:
> >
> > > Laura Maxwell in California,USA
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Re: CS>Re: CS a Scam

[Jeannie]

Heidrun Beer wrote:

> 
> >wrote:
> >
> >>do you know anything about kidney stones?  what causes them and to rid the
> >>body of them
> >
> >Do a google search On Hulda Clark and kidney cleanse.
> >Every health list I'm on recommends her protocol.
> >It involves epsom salts and olive oil as I recall.
>
> That's the liver cleanse :-)
>
> The kidney cleanse involves a different protocol with a herb
> preparation and a combination of natural substances. Pretty
> complicated preparation but with a big freezer it can be organized.
>
> Heidrun Beer

A few years ago a natural practitioner did some kind of a kidney cleanse on my
husband.  I remember that it was mostly lemon juice and olive oil, which he had 
to
drink just before going to bed.  He had to lie on one side (can't remember 
which) for
half an hour or something, and then go to sleep.  Next morning he passed a 
number of
kidney stones without any pain (apparently the process softened them) and his 
kidney
pain went away and hasn't come back.

Jeannie

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Re: CS>Tylosin

[Jeannie]

Jack Dayton wrote:

>
>  Is this full strength H2o2, or the stuff you buy at the
>  supermarket?
>
>
> I don't know about the supermarket, but you
> will find  3% USP grade at a drugstore.
> That is probably what you want --  you didn't say.
> If you plan to ingest it with CS then 3% is right.
>
> Jack

OK, but I was told I shouldn't use that internally, since it had other
chemicals in it.  I should go to the health food store and buy the food
grade stuff.  I did, but it turned out to be a whole great deal stronger
(I forget how much.)  It would make a lot of difference which one I took
drops of in my CS!  So you are saying it is the 3%?  OK.  great.  The
other tastes too strong, even with only 3-4 drops!

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Re: CS>Tylosin

[Jeannie]

Is this full strength H2o2, or the stuff you buy at the supermarket?

Jeannie

MARIANO DELISE wrote:

> Why are you afraid of the H2o2?  How much were you using?  I would
> trust the H2o2 very sparingly rather than a drug  I use 1 drop 3%
> H2o2 for each 2 oz. of 10ppm cs.  Let it stand about 15 minures.  By
> this time I believe, the peroxide has made the cs much, much smaller
> particles and has evaporated out of the csNancy
>
>  - Original Message -
>  From: Robb Allen
>  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>  Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 12:21 AM
>  Subject: CS>Tylosin
>   Hi to everyone.I've been on silver now for about a
>  year for my Rheumatoid Arthritis...I"ve a tremendous
>  improvement, however CS seems to do alot more to clear up my
>  bloodstream than it does to kill Mycoplasma already living
>  in my joints.  I was trying H202 for a while..and even
>  though it seems to help alot with the pain...{I don't know
>  why}  it sorta scares me.  I've been readin alot here lately
>  about tylosin...{usually a drug for animals}...I'm not
>  sure if there is a human version or not...from what I've
>  been reading this stuff is supposed to really wipe out
>  mycoplasma in a hurryorally it is not quite as
>  effective as IM.  I am thinking very seriously about trying
>  this to rid myself of the last 10% of my arthritis.  I've
>  owned and operated a farm for my entire life and it is well
>  known that if you have a hog that is sick and down from
>  arthritis, Tylosin will clear it up in a hurry...why do
>  they not do this for humans?...I've seen the list of
>  what it kills and it is a vast list.almost as big as CS
>  itself.  I wish there was a way for me to get the CS deeper
>  into my joints where it could do the job becuase I know it
>  kills what I have.  When I quit taking it for a
>  break..and then start again..I have a herx reaction
>  for about the first week..and then some major
>  improvement.and then it levels off leaving me much
>  better than before.but still with the critters living in
>  my joints...Tylosin may be my answer..?.I don't
>  know.still reading hereRobb
>
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Re: CS>Re: CS and protozoa

[Jeannie]

Ode Coyote wrote:

>  I recently ate an undercooked fish sandwich and began to feel queezy.
> I downed about 4 oz of 20PPM CS and was OK in 5 or 10 minutes.  Nothing
> ever developed.
> ken

Our church has potlucks every week after church, and we often had stomach
problems after potluck.  I assume some people allowed their food to sit out too
long.  Now we take a swig of CS after each potluck, and have no problems.

Jeannie


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Re: CS>Silver Chloride

[Jeannie]

I guess my main concern is a very practical one.  Because of posts on this list 
I
have been mixing a pint of my own CS in a gallon of gatorade, and drinking 3 
qts or
so a day.  It did really seem to help me not to get sick when my whole family 
was
down.  But I'm wondering if continuing to do that might be less than the best 
way to
take it.

Jeannie

Marshall Dudley wrote:

> Jeannie wrote:
>
> > Marshall Dudley wrote:
> >
> > > There is one sentence that I find very interesting:
> > >
> > > Crystals darken upon exposure to light and plastic
> > >
> > > I think we may have finally found why some people say that CS is
> > > unstable in plastic.  If you use salt to make it, then you are making
> > > silver chloride, and it apparently breaks down to chlorine and silver
> > > metal upon exposure to plastics.  Thus what has been said here for
> > > years, that properly made high quality CS is not affected by plastic now
> > > makes sense.
> > >
> > > Marshall
> >
> > Sounds reasonable.  Now does salt contacting the CS later, after it is made
> > up, also cause silver chloride?  If so, what about taking it with gatorade?
> > There is certainly salt in that?  Does that cause a problem?
>
> >From the tests some of us have run with CS and salt, it appears that indeed 
> >the
> ionic silver reacts with the chlorine producing AgCl. The most convincing test
> is to add salt to clear CS and observe the precipitation of something which
> appears white or milky, and the clearing of this precipitant when ammonia is
> added.  AgCl is white and is soluble in ammonia.
>
> So I guess the problem is one of magnitude.  If you have 10 ppm of CS/ionic, 
> and
> the ionic becomes silver chloride, you still only have about 8 or 9 ppm max of
> silver chloride.  If you make the cs with salted water, the amount of silver
> chloride produced is only limited by how much salt is in the water, although 
> the
> amount that can be dissolved is still only about 10 ppm or so.
>
> But that begs the question.  How does silver chloride, which any in excess of 
> 12
> or so ppm, must be undissolved, make it into the blood stream.  I think it
> important to determine if perhaps silver chloride dissolves in HCl.  And if 
> not,
> does blood contain anything that would increase the solubility?
>
> We know how to easily produce a precipitant of AgCl, and how to see if it
> dissolves in anything.  I have sulfuric acid, but not sure I have any
> hydrochloric.  If I do, I will try to run that test over the weekend.  I will
> also try it with baking soda, which is the primary base in the blood that 
> makes
> the ph over 7.
>
> Marshall
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Re: CS>Silver Chloride

[Jeannie]

Marshall Dudley wrote:

> There is one sentence that I find very interesting:
>
> Crystals darken upon exposure to light and plastic
>
> I think we may have finally found why some people say that CS is
> unstable in plastic.  If you use salt to make it, then you are making
> silver chloride, and it apparently breaks down to chlorine and silver
> metal upon exposure to plastics.  Thus what has been said here for
> years, that properly made high quality CS is not affected by plastic now
> makes sense.
>
> Marshall

Sounds reasonable.  Now does salt contacting the CS later, after it is made
up, also cause silver chloride?  If so, what about taking it with gatorade?
There is certainly salt in that?  Does that cause a problem?

Jeannie

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Re: CS>Re: CS and protazoa

[Jeannie]

dwells2...@aol.com wrote:

>  I now see a lot of misinformation has been given to people and like
> so many other hypes it just doesn't work like folks want it to!
>
> Don Wells

I have seen times when it didn't work, and I was disappointed.  But I'm
glad I didn't meet you before I tried it for myself, because it brought
me back from feeling like I was almost dead.  And I have seen it cure
things that the doctors believe there is no cure for.

Jeannie


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Re: CS>New Here.Hello ,

[Jeannie]

James Allison wrote:

> I was going to try the local honey, but my wife found out and had a
> fit! Yours in health,
> James Allison

Local honey seems to have worked for me.  I used to get awful hay fever,
but now I only sneeze occasionally.  Couldn't be the CS because I got
better a long time before I started using it.  I heard about local
honey, and I started getting some from a neighbor, which I used for
years.

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Re: CS>Malaria and CS

[Jeannie]

Don Wells wrote:


> > There seems to be a body of evidence promoting CS for every bug out there
> and I have to say after careful testing this hasnt proven the case to me at
> all. I have treated animals with certain bacterial infections for weeks and
> months with no good results in regards to many species of bacteria. I have
> tests being run at a lab right now regarding effectiveness against
> Salmonella sp.I will post the results here once I know more.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Don Wells

Don, part of your problem is that you not realizing that the figures about how
many bacteria, viruses, etc. CS will kill is in vitro.  What it will do in a
test tube is not identical to what it will do in your body.  Sometimes the CS
has difficulty in reaching some area of infection.

Sometimes if some mode of delivery can help it to reach the area of infection,
then results can be improved.  I do find that CS doesn't reach everything, and
doesn't kill everything in the body that it does in a test tube. This doesn't
mean that it is not a great help for a great many things.

Jeannie


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Re: CS>Fibroyalgia

[Jeannie]

"Medwith, Robert" wrote:

>
>
> Has any one had success treating Fibroyalgia with CS
> I have read this can be caused by aspertin which is  low cal items
> My wife has since stopped eating any thing with aspertine in it
> Very little seems to be known about this ailment
> I would appreciate any help from treatment to information sources
>
>   Thanks
> Bob

Well, I can tell you flat out that fibromyalgia is NOT caused by
aspertame poisoning.  I have it, and I have almost never knowingly used
aspertame or any other sugar substitute.

This stuff is distructive, and if someone has fibromyalgia, it might be
especially damaging, and ceasing to use it might be very helpful.

The most useful information that we have is that fibromyalgia is caused
by a micoplasma, which is a smaller critter than a virus, which could
not even be seen until recently when microscope technology made it
possible to see them.

Apparently the micoplasma infects the red blood cells, making it
impossible for them to go through the cappilaries, which causes serious
circulatory problems.  This causes muscle spasming, tension, and damage
to the heart and brain.

CS has helped me a great deal, although it has not entirely gotten rid
of it.  But it has to be taken long-term.  I have been taking at least a
cupful for over a year.

Jeannie


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Re: CS>HepC

[Jeannie]

mars larz wrote:

>  According to a study comprised of a population of one done
>  by Roger Altman,
>  on himself, the silver is excreted, and does not permanently
>  accumulate in
>  any tissues.
>
>  JOH
>
And I have been worrying about our septic tank.  My husband and I are
using about a pint a day.  I presume it all ends up there. Has anyone
had any experience in whether this will make a problem in the septic
tank?

Jeannie

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Re: CS>Big flashing banners in the sig line

[Jeannie]

I don't understand this, but until people started talking about the ads and
banners etc. I was getting them.  But someone changed something, and now I am
NOT getting them.  Maybe someone set something on mine instead of their own, or
something.  Why should mine change when I changed nothing?

Jeannie

cmccau...@kayescholer.com wrote:

> I know this is OT but I think it kind of relates to the post by James.  I
> personally think that the big flashing banner the sig line is a bit much,
> especially since it is OT and MLM related.
>
> Maybe if the sig line was toned down some by deleting the banner, all would
> be okay.  Just my opinion of course.
>
> I accidentally forgot to delete an extremely OT sales-related sig line from
> one of my posts and even though I didn't get any replies about it, I knew
> as soon as I sent the post that I had done a booboo.  My next post was an
> apology for my oversite (and a CS question to make it on topic!)
>
> Anyway, like I said, this is just my opinion but I think a more on-topic
> sig line would be better.  Or at least no flashing banner.
>
> Now to make this post CS related, my question.  When you are doing the LVDC
> method and are using an AC/DC converter, is there a special way to hook it
> up?  Do you just apply the alligator clips to the ends of the wires and
> clip them to the silver wires or is there another step involved?  I usually
> use 3 nine volt batteries but I want to try the other way, using an AC/DC
> converter thing, like the one for MY dead scanner.  But I don't know if I
> can just split the one wire into two and hook them up like I do for the
> batteries or not.
>
> Thanks,
> Christine
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Re: CS>Re: CS and White Blood Cells

[Jeannie]

Some of you smart people on the list, help me clarify something.  Aren't the
white blood cells the ones who attack the bacteria, viruses, etc.?  Would'nt the
white blood cell count be higher if your body was fighting some infection?  If
you killed most of the bacterial and viruses in your body, wouldn't your white
count go down because you didn't need them?

Where am I missing something?

Jeannie

gmac wrote:

> H:
> Interesting, I just had medical and my doc told me
> the same thing.. Been taking 2 oz/ day 10-15ppm for couple years now..
> gm..
> *
>
> ol...@aol.com wrote:
> > James-Osbourne: Holmes
> >
> > I don't know if I might call you James...?
> > But I would like your input on this subject CS and WBCs.
> >  >From a recent blood test my MD stated that my WBC count was a little low.
> > I use about 4 oz of 8 to 10 PPM of CS per day. Have used it now for 5
> > months.
> > Would what you stated below have a bearing on my test results?
> > TIA
> > Thom in Decatur, IL
> >
> > In a message dated 9/11/2002 10:57:05 AM Central Daylight Time,
> > a...@cybermesa.com writes:
> >
> >> Perhaps the presumed concentration of WBCs there are gobbling up the
> >> CS...?
> >
> >
> >
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Re: CS>Nasal Sprayer

[Jeannie]

"Medwith, Robert" wrote:

>
>
> Any one find a good source for Nasal Sprayers.
> My current source is from Old Prescription Sprayers but not all are
> easily refilled.
> Have had good luck with CS in a Nasal Sprayer to help Sinus's and stop
> some allergy
> Symptoms in nose.
>
>Bob

I keep a little nasal sprayer in my purse with a CS/DMSO combination in
it, which I also use on the back of my throat if I feel a slight sore
throat coming on.  Hitting it very quickly is a great advantage, and
usually kills it right there.  However, since this is often used in
public, and I don't want my breath to smell very bad, I use only about
1/20 DMSO.

I also would love a source of easily refillable nasal sprayers.  We do
refill, but with difficulty.

Jeannie


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Re: CS>Re: CS-DMSO

[Jeannie]

"James Osbourne, Holmes" wrote:

> It always makes my skin burn and itch slightly. Maybe the salt?
>
> James-Osbourne: Holmes

If anyone answered this, I missed it.  That slight burning and itching is normal
for DMSO.  This is why I don't like to use it stronger than about 50/50 with
CS.  And I only use it that strong when I am using it for the pain relieving
effects of the DMSO.  When I use it to make the CS penetrate, then I dilute even
more.  I don't like the skin irritation.  Maybe that is the feeling of it going
through the skin--I don't know.

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Re: CS>Re: Glad cow syndrome

[Jeannie]

Marshall Dudley wrote:

> I believe that every living thing on earth has a use.  Otherwise it would not
> be here.  Well maybe not fleas, chiggers and ticks,  but every plant anyway.
> The question is not if it has a legit use, but if the use of it is in some way
> abusive or counter productive. Even marijuana has legit uses for glaucoma and
> AAD, and tobacco makes a great pesticide.
>
> Marshall

I agree that everything has a use, but to humans?  What if it is useful to some
caterpillar or something?  Does it all have to be about us?

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Re: CS>Advice on possible CS use - weird skin infections?

[Jeannie]

Annie Hall wrote:

> I recently spoke to a friend who is a consultant to fish farming
> enterprises.
>
> Apparently in the operations where the fish are in tanks, although the
> fish apparently appear to be "healthy", the workers handling them are
> often getting weird skin infections. These to date have not been
> identified, at least the "bug" causing the problem has not been
> isolated. The infections appear to sometimes be a mild rash and at
> other times cause skin peeling, etc. They do not respond to any
> antibiotics.  All sorts of topical medications have been used in
> treatment with poor results.
>
> Would CS be of any use, and, if so, what would be the best way to
> apply it in this situation? I did not mention it to my friend as I
> thought I would ask here first. He is an academic and would require
> some sort of scientific "papers" to back up any statements.
>
> Personally, I don't approve of fish farming and am not surprised at
> this, but as nothing is helping these people I just wondered about CS?
>
> Can anyone offer any advice that can be passed on, please?
>
> Thanks, Annie

I have seen CS or CS/DMSO cure an amazing number of different skin
conditions.  And it certainly would not damage anyone to try. (Although
if the skin is irritated, I would not use more than about 10% DMSO,
since it can irritate the skin if strong.

But I don't have scientific papers to prove it, only years of experience
dealing with animals, and people too.  (Not patients, merely friends and
relatives.)  And that kind of knowledge doesn't usually mean a thing to
scientific types, who have to have expensive double-blind studies to
believe anything.  The problem is no one is willing to pay for the
studies, because they can't make money on things so cheap and available
as CS and DMSO.

So if your friend is not open-minded to just try things, he may have to
go without the benefits.

Jeannie

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Re: CS>Re: CS-DMSO

[Jeannie]

Malcolm Stebbins wrote:

> Hi Jeannie; I get my DMSO at the feed store - only place available, says it's 
> 99.7%
> pure on the bottle, ok for vet use.  I don't use much so haven't been back 
> for 2
> months, it's  for my old cat and I've been mixing it with CS for topical
> application.
> It seems strange that some company is making vet quality DMSO (same quality & 
> purity
> requirements I think as if it were for humans), but the FDA still insists it 
> is
> unapproved for human use (at least as medication),

Dr. Jacobs, who pioneered the medicinal uses of DMSO, made the FDA mad by not 
following
protocol, and embarrassing them, and they have never gotten over it.  So it got 
approved
for vet use, but not for people. :)

> how could it be better from the
> health food store?  Can you give me a reference?

I don't know.  As far as I have known, DMSO is DMSO.  99% should be the same 
wherever
you get it.  But then, I don't know the process they use to make it, or 
whatever.

The reference won't do you any good.  It was from some printed material on 
arthritis my
husband had that his nurse-sister sent him email.  I can't see on the material 
where she
got it.

I just happened to read it right after sending the recommendation to the list 
that they
could get it at the hardware.  So I thought I had better pass on the 
information that at
least whoever wrote the material thought it had some kind of problem if bought 
from the
hardware.  I have been using it from there for years, but they could know 
something I
don't.

>
> I wonder who is going to foot the half million dollar bill for the studies 
> after all
> these years . . .  unless perhaps it's Hoffmann LaRoche or Glaxo?  Are they 
> hoping
> for some captive customer base when the FDA mounts 'anti-terrorist' guards at 
> the
> local hay and grain?  (Oh, Sh--!!  I Hope that's just a joke.)
> Malcolm

I hope so too, but I wouldn't bet on it. LOL

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Re: CS>Re: CS-DMSO

[Jeannie]

Stan Jarzylo wrote:

> Hi:   Where can I buy the DMSO?   Thanks.
>
> Stan. J.

I said before to get it at the hardware store.  But I just read this morning
that we should use the DMSO from the health food store, not from the hardware
store-- that these are different in quality.  I never heard this before.  When
we started using it, we went to the health food store and they said that they
couldn't carry it, that we would find some at the hardware store.  I didn't know
that had changed.  Given a choice, I would therefore recommend some from a
health food store.

Jeannie

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> > Gaston wrote:
> >
> > > Jeannie,
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Re: CS>Re: CS-DMSO

[Jeannie]

Gaston wrote:

> Jeannie,
>
> In one of your messages you wrote :
>
> --
> For external use, I use it at 50/50.  This relieves my husbands arthritis
> when applied externally to the painful joints...
> --
>
> I read the comments from James concerning the cleaning of the area prior of 
> doing this.
>
> I have applied a solution of 90% CS and 10% pure DMSO, once only, to my hip 
> and the way that I
> have done it:  was to soak the center of a sterile bandage in the solution 
> and left it on all
> night. When I removed the bandage the next morning the area was red and 
> swollen. It stayed like
> this for a few days before it cleared... I presume that this is not the 
> correct way to apply the
> solution.  (only 10% DMSO used)

Ouch!  You would be right.  Not the way.  But I think there may have been 
something else on your
skin.  I had a bandaid on for days recently with this mix on to see if it would 
remove a strange
wart-like thing on my leg.  Didn't work.  But it didn't hurt at all.

> I would like to try a solution, 50% CS and 50% pure DMSO for my wife as well 
> for arthritis, and
> would appreciate your suggestions to the following questions:
>
> 1.- How do you apply the solution  pls ?  with a spray or pour it on bandages 
> ?

You could spray.  I just splash it on with my hands.  Just wet the area.

>
>  If you spray it, it may not stay at the same place unless the person lays
>  and does not move...

It doesn't have to stay on long, as it penetrates right away.  It does what 
pain relief it is
going to do within minutes.  And it won't injure you if it gets on other areas 
(unless you have
some other chemical or something on your skin.)

> 2.- Do you rub it on the skin with your fingers ? If so how long ?

Just spread it on.

> 3.- How long do you leave the solution on pls ? minutes, hours, all nite ?

My husband just stays put for maybe five minutes to give it time to penetrate. 
Then dresses and
forgets it and lets it dry naturally.

> 4.- Do you clean the area where you put the solution after a certain period 
> of time or if you
> just let it dry on ?  (if you apply the solution only for a few 
> minutes...)

Just let it dry on.  If it is mostly CS it may stay wet for a while, or get 
wiped off on clothes,
doesn't matter.  Won't hurt anything.

> 5.- How many times a day do you apply this solution ?

Sometimes we have applied it a second or third time during the day.  Many 
people find that the
pain relief that they get is long lasting--even months or more, from a few 
applications.  If there
is no relief after two or three applications I would forget it.  Some kinds of 
pain do not
respond.  With others there can be almost miraculous relief.

> Any other info for the application of the solution would be much appreciated.

I had a neighbor who was a truck driver.  He had arthritis in his hands from 
driving.  He also
kept goats.  He said that He got it for his goats, and just "accidentally" 
splashed it over his
hands.  He got relief that lasted for months.  That was how I first learned of 
it.

I used it for a bad back.  I had to apply is several times, but also got 
long-lasting relief.

The only time I have cleaned the skin first is if I had some kind of chemical 
on my skin--like
hand lotion or makeup.  I accidentally splashed some on my face once where I 
had makeup, and it
burned my skin.  But that was from making the makeup penetrate, as it doesn't 
usually hurt the
skin (when it is mixed like that.)

But I have read that it will also carry viruses through the skin. (I don't know 
if that is true.)
This is one reason I always mix with CS instead of water, as some others do who 
use DMSO.

> Gaston

Good luck.  Let us know if it works for her.

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Re: CS>A lung disease -- suggestions?

[Jeannie]

Jack Dayton wrote:

>
>
> > From: Jeannie 
> > Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:49:12 -0700
> >
> > The only usual side-effect is that if you use it (DMSO) too strong,
> it can irritate
> > the  skin.  When I use it, I usually mix it with CS.  For external
> use, I use it at
> > 50/50.  This relieves my husbands arthritis when applied externally
> to the
> > painful joints.
>
> Hi Jeannie, I have a few questions -
> what form of arthritis does your husband have?

I don't know.

> Where do I buy some DMSO?

We can get it at a hardware store.  It says, "not to be used as
medicine," but it is the very same stuff, and works fine.

> My wife has tried gluclosamine and chondroitan (SP) for
> osteo arthritis with no results, I have convinced her to try
> CS with DMSO.
>
> Jack

My husband tried those things, and it didn't help him either.  Hope it
works for her.

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Re: CS>Re: CS/DMSO

[Jeannie]

ol...@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 9/3/2002 2:49:44 PM Central Daylight Time,
> jean...@ucinet.com writes:
>
>
>> When I use it simply to make the CS penetrate, I usually use it 90%
>> CS to 10%
>> DMSO.
>
> I don't know, but it certainly has caused no problems for us, and we
> have used it occasionally for years.

Jeannie

>
>
> Would adding the DMSO to the CS break down the Brain Barrier
> protection against CS?
>
> Thom

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CS>DMSO

[Jeannie]

Hank wrote:

Hi, The DMSO I have is 99.9% pure. Is that the DMSO you are talking
about when
you say mix it 90% CS to 10% DMSO?
Thank you, Hank

Yes.

Jeannie

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Re: CS>Re: [Re: CS>A lung disease -- suggestions?]

[Jeannie]

 
Henry wrote:

Hi, The DMSO I have is 99.9% pure. Is that the DMSO you are talking about when
you say mix it 90% CS to 10% DMSO?
Thank you, Hank


Yes.  I mix that 9 parts of CS with 1 part of DMSO.




Jeannie



Jeannie  wrote:


Jim Meissner wrote:

>
> Dear Jeannie, could you please provide some more information about DMSO
> dosages, warnings, effects, etc?

DMSO is another thing that has gotten a bad rap, and is really not toxic. 
The
government came out and said that it could cause damage to the eyes.  What
they
didn't tell you was that they gave the rats the equivalent of a person
drinking
a quart a day.  At that point there seemed to be some damage to the eyes,
though
the rats didn't go blind, and the effect cannot be duplicated in other
animals.
So it probably wouldn't happen to you if you did drink a quart a day (heaven
forbid!).

The only usual side-effect is that if you use it too strong, it can irritate
the
skin.  When I use it, I usually mix it with CS.  For external use, I use it
at
50/50.  This relieves my husbands arthritis when applied externally to the
painful joints.

When I use it simply to make the CS penetrate, I usually use it 90% CS to 10%
DMSO.  I wouldn't breathe it any stronger than that, although I don't really
know if it would hurt you or not.  We have also sometimes added a drop of two
of
tea tree oil to the nebulizer.

I have used the CS/DMSO solution (the weaker one) for ring worm and other
skin
problems with a great deal of success.  I have reversed all kinds of
infections,
including abcesses, and blood poisoning by using this externally.

By the way, there is a story that one lady died from taking DMSO.  She was in
Ireland, and was taking several other drugs.  She took DMSO internally, got a
allergic reaction, but continued taking everything.  Yes, it killed her.  It
was
a really dumb thing to do.

For one thing, DMSO makes other drugs more effective, as it makes them
penetrate
more.  Heaven only knows what she was allergic to, but you never keep on
taking
things if you get an allergic reaction.  There is always somebody allergic to
anything, and allergies can be dangerous.

But these are the only problems that the government could dig up on DMSO.
Considering how dangerous many drugs are, DMSO is extremely safe.  Many
people
take it internally for arthitis pain control.  We have never done that, so I
have no experience with it.

Jeannie


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Re: CS>A lung disease -- suggestions?

[Jeannie]

"d.black" wrote:

> Jeannie,
> What form of DMSO do you use?
> thanks,
> Nancy...

The only form I have ever seen is a clear liquid.  I have seen 70% and 99%.  I
prefer 99%, since I mix with CS.

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Re: CS>A lung disease -- suggestions?

[Jeannie]

Jim Meissner wrote:

>
> Dear Jeannie, could you please provide some more information about DMSO
> dosages, warnings, effects, etc?

DMSO is another thing that has gotten a bad rap, and is really not toxic.  The
government came out and said that it could cause damage to the eyes.  What they
didn't tell you was that they gave the rats the equivalent of a person drinking
a quart a day.  At that point there seemed to be some damage to the eyes, though
the rats didn't go blind, and the effect cannot be duplicated in other animals.
So it probably wouldn't happen to you if you did drink a quart a day (heaven
forbid!).

The only usual side-effect is that if you use it too strong, it can irritate the
skin.  When I use it, I usually mix it with CS.  For external use, I use it at
50/50.  This relieves my husbands arthritis when applied externally to the
painful joints.

When I use it simply to make the CS penetrate, I usually use it 90% CS to 10%
DMSO.  I wouldn't breathe it any stronger than that, although I don't really
know if it would hurt you or not.  We have also sometimes added a drop of two of
tea tree oil to the nebulizer.

I have used the CS/DMSO solution (the weaker one) for ring worm and other skin
problems with a great deal of success.  I have reversed all kinds of infections,
including abcesses, and blood poisoning by using this externally.

By the way, there is a story that one lady died from taking DMSO.  She was in
Ireland, and was taking several other drugs.  She took DMSO internally, got a
allergic reaction, but continued taking everything.  Yes, it killed her.  It was
a really dumb thing to do.

For one thing, DMSO makes other drugs more effective, as it makes them penetrate
more.  Heaven only knows what she was allergic to, but you never keep on taking
things if you get an allergic reaction.  There is always somebody allergic to
anything, and allergies can be dangerous.

But these are the only problems that the government could dig up on DMSO.
Considering how dangerous many drugs are, DMSO is extremely safe.  Many people
take it internally for arthitis pain control.  We have never done that, so I
have no experience with it.

Jeannie


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Re: CS>A lung disease -- suggestions?

[Jeannie]

I should add the following.  I used about 9 parts CS to about 1 part
DMSO for nebulizing.  I'm not sure if using it much stronger would be OK
or not.

Jeannie

Marshall Dudley wrote:

> I don't  think that CS alone is going to do any good. The body has walled it
> off, so things like CS will likely not make it inside.  The only thing I can
> think of that might work would be to nebulize with a CS/DMSO combination.  But
> check with those that have done such things before trying. I am not sure if it
> is safe to inhale DMSO.
>
> Marshall

We have nebulized both people and animals with CS/DMSO with very good
success.  We
have reversed pneumonia on both people and animals doing this.

Jeannie

>
>
> Jdownmaine wrote:
>
> > A friend age 50 works in a "sick" school. Lots of lung irritations from the
> > air conditioning/heating system.
> > He has an encapsulated "something" in the upper lung. It has been needle
> > biopsied and is not cancerous,
> > but an "infection. It has neither grown nor reduced with antibiotics so the
> > doctor's next step is an "open
> > biopsy" with or without removal. (Cute!)
> > I have discussed CS and a nebulizer as an alternative.
> > I suspect I won't make any headway, but I thought I'd ask for your
> > experiences, List.
> > Thanks, Judy Down Maine
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Re: CS>A lung disease -- suggestions?

[Jeannie]

Marshall Dudley wrote:

> I don't  think that CS alone is going to do any good. The body has walled it
> off, so things like CS will likely not make it inside.  The only thing I can
> think of that might work would be to nebulize with a CS/DMSO combination.  But
> check with those that have done such things before trying. I am not sure if it
> is safe to inhale DMSO.
>
> Marshall

We have nebulized both people and animals with CS/DMSO with very good success.  
We
have reversed pneumonia on both people and animals doing this.

Jeannie

>
>
> Jdownmaine wrote:
>
> > A friend age 50 works in a "sick" school. Lots of lung irritations from the
> > air conditioning/heating system.
> > He has an encapsulated "something" in the upper lung. It has been needle
> > biopsied and is not cancerous,
> > but an "infection. It has neither grown nor reduced with antibiotics so the
> > doctor's next step is an "open
> > biopsy" with or without removal. (Cute!)
> > I have discussed CS and a nebulizer as an alternative.
> > I suspect I won't make any headway, but I thought I'd ask for your
> > experiences, List.
> > Thanks, Judy Down Maine
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Re: CS>OT: echinacea

[Jeannie]

Connie wrote:

> A couple of more years back, on one of my lists, (that being one of the
> problems), I read a paper with an alternative opinion on whether echinacea
> should be used on an on/off schedule (as is normally suggested).
> That piece was also saved on a system that is long gone.
> I have searched the couple lists I thougth it may be on but have not been
> able to locate it.
> Does anyone have reference to such an article?
> TIA
> Connie

I read a letter from a scientist who claimed that it was his research that has
been quoted to mean that echinacea is only effective for a few days at a time,
and should not be taken long-term.  He said that his research had been
misunderstood.  He said that all he had said was that they had only tested it
for a few days.

I don't know where to find the information now.  I think it was put out by the
people who make "One Life," which is a supplement supposed to prevent
sickness.  It contains echinacea as well as several other things, and is
intended to be taken continuously.

I could probably find their address if it were needed.

Jeannie

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Re: CS>RE: Glad cow syndrome

[Jeannie]

Ode Coyote wrote:

>  Psylicybe [sp]  Cubensis ..the cow plops golden dollar..brain fertilizer.
>
> It wasn't just a tight muscle, it was an actual lump about the size of a
> ping pong ball. Quite disturbingly large and getting bigger.
> Ken

Could this have been a fatty tumor?  I have several of those.

Jeannie

>
>

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Re: CS>CS Lotion

[Jeannie]

I wish you would post a recipe for making a lotion which I could make with CS!

Jeannie

BJ wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have been making soaps and lotions for years, and this idea has been
> lurking in my brain for a couple of years now.  Have never seen anything
> like this discussed on this list either!
>
> So here goes.
>
> Can anyone here think of why a lotion or creme made with CS (in lieu of
> distilled water) would not be effective?  I have psoriasis, and I know that
> the CS can stop the itching, and sometimes almost makes it disappear.  It's
> just too awkward to keep applying it to spots like elbows, etc.  I'm
> thinking this would be so much better in a creme made with other oils that
> have beneficial properties for psoriasis.  There may even be a synergy
> there between say emu oil (or neem) and CS!  Who knows?
>
> Question #2:  How about marketability of such a creme?  I already make
> salves, moisturizing creams, and one with MSM and Glucosamine in it for
> folks with arthritic aches and pains, but has anyone ever seen or heard of
> anything with CS in it?  I mean like a lotion or soap or some thing along
> those lines?  I can't think why this wouldn't work, but if there's
> something I'm missing, please let me know!
>
> I'm going to do this for myself either way, but in terms of selling
> it...well, guess I'm still gathering information!
>
> Jean
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Re: CS>mgda

[Jeannie]

qec...@aol.com wrote:

> How is calling them backwoods hicks an insult?  Unless they are backwoods
> hicks?  I don't get how that is such an insult.

Is that something you would like to be called?  If not, then don't call
others that.  And yes, I have heard others call you some names also.  This is
the problem with harsh words.  They get thrown back and forth, and then no
one is learning, only reacting.

Jeannie

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Re: CS>mole/wart

[Jeannie]

I think people are trying to tell you that it is not bad to have such an
opinion, or to express it.  Many of us agree, at least to a large
extent.  What others are complaining about is the agressive way that you
express your opinions.

You earlier did the same thing to me.  It was fine to disagree with me,
but you were forceful and almost insulting.  I didn't respond, so the
"tempest" went away.  But you would convince more people of your
opinions if you were less emotional and forceful in expressing them, and
more kind and reasoning.  People aren't going to be convinced by being
attacked.

Jeannie

qec...@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 8/21/2002 1:11:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> ba...@netease.net writes:
>
>
>
>> How many days of 600 ppm colloidal silver would it take to purge
>> your system of contaminated thinking?
>
> You tell me.  Mark my words, my sweetie, you gonna learn what I
> said...i just think you need to be put into the situationand you
> will be.  IT will happen to you people, just as I say it willthere
> is more corruption in the medical industry than people think.

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Re: CS>DMSO and Arthritic Shoulder

[Jeannie]

Cindy & John wrote:

> My only question now is:  Do I continue to do this every day, or just
> when the pain returns?  I make and use CS on a regular basis, so I am
> not afraid of it, but not sure about DMSO.
>
> Thanks for your wonderful advice!
> Cindy

I also have always used DMSO on an "as needed" basis.  My experience is that
there are certain kinds of pain that it works for, and certain kinds that it
does not work for.  If it works, I repeat as needed.  I find that I need it
oftener at first, and then less and less.  Then sometimes the pain can be
gone for months before it returns.

My only caution is that pain is a warning of something wrong, and a
protection against injuring a part of ourselves that is vulnerable for some
reason.  If we deaden the pain, we may be in danger of over-using, or
injuring the part.  So just be careful of the area, because it may still be
vulnerable to injury.

Jeannie

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Re: CS>DMSO and Toothache

[Jeannie]

Wayne Fugitt wrote:

> Morning Jeannie,
>
>  >> I doesn't matter that they have helped thousands of people, and have
> caused far fewer problems >> then most of the approved drugs.  All that
> doesn't count at all.  They are still "untested remedies," and they will
> stay that way.  That doesn't keep them from working
>
>   This morning I had a toothache that started last night.  This is a
> problem tooth that the dentist first wanted to FIX in August, 1997.   5
> whole years.
>
>   The options he gives me are not to my liking, so. I keep using
> the tooth.  I has only created pain once during that period, until now.
>
>   So.  DMSO and CS to the rescue.
>
>   I added only 3 drops DMSO to one ounce of CS.  Using the swish and
> hold method for
> about 1 minute, the pain decreased within minutes.  Within one hour, the
> pain was reduced over 50 %.   One hour later I repeated the process.
>
> Soon after that, the pain was decreased by 75 to 90 %.  This was 3
> hours ago, and not there is virtually zero pain.
>
> I will repeat once more, then maybe two to three hours apart, and
> hopefully the tooth will give me a few more months or years of service.
>
> Wayne

That is great!  I would continue to do it several times a day for a week or
two.  The DMSO has pain relieving power, but you want more than pain
relief.  It will probably cure the infection.

I have cured abscesses in cats, and blood poisoning in myself with it.  But
I used at least 10% DMSO.  But that strength tastes pretty bad. :)


Jeannie

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Re: CS>Brewer's yeast and insects

[Jeannie]

Finally, some accurate infomation. Thanks!

We prefer the flakes, and it is a great flavoring in many things.  Since we are 
vegan, we feel the need of a good source of B vitamins, especially B12.

Jeannie

Ode Coyote wrote:

> In a way that's true depending on what you're getting.
> There's brewers yeast, primary grown brewers yeast, debittered brewers yeast 
> and nutritional yeast which is entirely different and much better but 
> sometimes called brewers yeast.
> The nutritional yeast actually tastes good. It's GREAT sprinkled on popcorn.
>
> "Nutritional Yeast Nutritional Yeast is an inactive yeast and dietary food 
> supplement with a distinct, pleasant aroma and delicious cheesy taste. It is 
> different from baking yeast and has no fermenting power. Six teaspoons (about 
> 10 gm) provide: 6 mg each of vit. B1, vit. B2 and vit. B6; 5 mcg vit. B12; 35 
> mg niacin; 5 gm protein (50% by weight); 4 gm carbohydrates; and 30 calories. 
> Contains no fat. Store in a cool dry place or refrigerate. Will keep 
> indefinitely if stored properly. Available in flakes or powder at natural 
> food stores "
>
> >>>>
>
>  Brewer's Yeast
>
>  Brewer's yeast, which is often called nutritional yeast, was originally 
> a by-product of the brewing of beer. While still used for brewing, it is also 
> now grown as a plant product for its nutritional value. Nutritional yeast is 
> not exactly the same as brewer's yeast. Brewer's yeast was originally used as 
> a nutritional supplement, then other yeasts were made available for this 
> purpose. Brewer's yeast differs from live baker's yeast in that its live 
> yeast cells have been destroyed, leaving the nutrients behind. Live yeast 
> cells can actually deplete the body of B vitamins and other nutrients.
>
>  Nutritional yeast contains high levels of many important nutrients, 
> including all of the B vitamins (except for B12), 16 out of 20 amino acids, 
> and 14 different minerals. The amino acids (proteins) in yeast help the body 
> repair tissue and fight disease. Brewer's yeast has a very high protein 
> content, with one tbsp. providing 4.6 g, making it a rich source of protein 
> for vegetarians. It is also high in phosphorus.
>
> <<<<
>
> t 11:56 AM 8/9/02 EDT, you wrote:
> >>>>
>
>  In a message dated 8/9/2002 2:25:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> rbar...@orcon.net.nz writes:
>
>   You should never eat bakers yeast but brewers is fine.
>
>  brewers yeast is the yeast that is left over after the beer is 
> made...right?
>
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Re: CS>CS-DMSO

[Jeannie]

I read about the lab experiments where they caused vision problems with DMSO.  
No animal actually went blind, but there
were some changes in the eyes.  In the first place, it was an amount equivalent 
to a person drinking like a quart of the
stuff per day.  In the second place, they couldn't even reproduce the effect in 
other animals, and it was never seen in
people.

The FDA got down on DMSO because the scientist who began using it for medicinal 
purposes (I believe his name is Dr.
Jacobs), didn't go through proper channels to begin with.

The media got wind of what he was doing, and made a big deal over DMSO, and the 
FDA was mad because he hadn't cleared
everything properly with them.  So they came out publicly and said the stuff 
was dangerous.  Then they set about to prove
it to save face.

They didn't have any success, so they blew up this eye thing and tried to make 
a big thing of that.  They never would admit
it was harmless, even after they couldn't find any real problems with it.

When they say that a natural remedy is "untested," what they mean is that it 
hasn't gone through all the complicated,
double-blind studies the FDA requires in order to "approve" of it.  Those 
studies cost millions and millions of dollars,
and NOBODY is going to spend all that money on remedies that they can't patent 
and make a LOT of money on.  Things like
colloidal silver, and MSM, and DMSO can't be patented, and so nobody is ever 
going to spend the money to get them "tested"
and "approved."

I doesn't matter that they have helped thousands of people, and have caused far 
fewer problems then most of the approved
drugs.  All that doesn't count at all.  They are still "untested remedies," and 
they will stay that way.  That doesn't keep
them from working

Jeannie

Jeannie

Gaston wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I was planning to use CS with DMSO externally for my wife due to pain with 
> her legs,
> caused by severe arthritis, but I found the following two articles in the 
> respectives web adresses
> as shown below and I am a bit reluctant to do so.
>
> I would appreciate any comments that experts may have on this regarding
> vision problems pls.
>
> Thanks
>
> Gaston
> 
>
> http://www.camprehoboth.com/issue09-22-00/fitness.htm
>
> Did you know that two of the biggest sellers in the pet and feed stores are 
> DMSO and MSM? Some people promote them as
> remedies for arthritis. MSM has yet to be tested in humans, and DMSO is 
> thought to contribute to vision problems.
> Neither one is approved for regular medical use in humans.
> -
> http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/cancer1/altthrpy.htm#DMSO
>
> The FDA outlaws DMSO for two reasons: the first being that it is a solvent, 
> and they do not know how to handle a
> substance that can be both a medicine and something you use to clean engine 
> parts; the second reason , according the
> book DMSO-Nature's Healer by Dr Morton Walker, animal studies showed that 
> injections of DMSO caused dogs to go blind.
> The FDA jumped on this and stopped its use. Later it was discovered that only 
> in dogs does it cause blindness, but like
> the ban on L-tryptophan, once it's there, heaven and earth will have to be 
> moved to clear it.
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Re: CS>Brewer's yeast and insects

[Jeannie]

jrowl...@nctimes.net wrote:

> Wow!  Mother was an early adherant of Adelle Davis and I distinctly
> recall daily morning doses of vitamins washed down by ONE tablespoon of
> brewers yeast in a glass of orange juice---smuckerific taste to start
> the day with.  A half-cup...congratulations!
> jr

We could hardly get the stuff down until we learned to use it as a savory, 
cheesy
flavor in lots of dishes.  Now it is probably my families favorite flavoring.
Try toast with butter and a sprinkling of brewers yeast.  Delicious.

Jeannie


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Re: CS>Brewer's yeast and insects

[Jeannie]

John Pannell wrote:

> Re: CS>Brewer's yeast and insects
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Roger Barker
> >
> > > From: Jeannie 
> > > Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > > Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 11:14:28 -0500
> > >  
> > >
> > > Brewer's yeast isn't still alive anyhow, is it?
> > >
> > *
> >
> > Yep, those little fellas sure are.
> > If I'm not mistaken the reason that bread rises
> > and Swiss cheese has holes in it is because
> > of all of the flatulence .
> >
> > *
>
> I guess now we know what causes the bubbles in beer!

They DON'T come from the brewer's yeast in the health food store!  The stuff
will not grow at all!

Jeannie

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Re: CS>CS & Rheumatoid arthritis

[Jeannie]

I wasn't suggesting to use it internally for this, but to apply it on
the outside.  I haven't had anyone complain about the smell except when
I took it internally.

Jeannie

Robb Allen wrote:

> doesn't the smell bother everyone?nobody likes me when I
> take DMSORobb
>
>  Try a mix of CS/DMSO (50/50) topically on the remaining
>  pain.  It works wonders for my husband.
>
>  Jeannie
>
>

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Re: CS>Brewer's yeast and insects

[Jeannie]

Jack Dayton wrote:

> > From: Jeannie 
>

> > Brewer's yeast isn't still alive anyhow, is it?
>
> *
>
> Yep, those little fellas sure are.
> If I'm not mistaken the reason that bread rises
> and Swiss cheese has holes in it is because
> of all of the flatulence .

You are speaking of different kinds of yeast.

Actually, the label on the kind I was speaking of says "Nutritional Yeast,"
not brewers yeast.  I should have been more exact.  But you are mistaken.
Just to be sure, I put some in a little sugar water in a warm place.  It has
been over 2 hrs. and it just sits there.  I have baked enough bread to know
that isn't live yeast.

I wouldn't eat live yeast for anything.  In bread, I make sure it is
thoroughly baked.  I don't believe live yeast is good for you.

Jeannie

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Re: CS>CS & Rheumatoid arthritis

[Jeannie]

nebmi...@aol.com wrote:

> Just FYI,
>
> Since I began making my own CS a couple months ago, my 62 year old
> mother has been consuming 4-6 tablespoons of it daily.  She has
> suffered from rheumatoid arthritis (among many other things) for the
> past 15 years or so...  and just had reconstructive surgery on one of
> her hands due to the incredible crippling that the arthritis caused.
> She has been on every medication that her MD (I call him the 'quack')
> could think of (against my advice) and has never found anything that
> did much for her pain.  Often times she would be in so much pain that
> she literally could not stand up from a chair if she'd been sitting
> for a while.  The drug cocktail that she is on has greatly weakened
> her immune system and it took quite a bit of coaxing, but I finally
> persuaded her to at least give CS a try.  I am very pleased to say
> that while she still has an occasional "bad day," for the most part
> she is suffering FAR less from the pain associated with her
> arthritis.&nb! sp; Her pain levels have not been this low in several
> years.  I certainly cannot speak on all of the mechanisms at play
> here, but the CS is the only change she has made.  It also completely
> cleared up a skin infection in four days (topically - with soaked
> cotton balls) that she has had between her toes for 2 years -- that
> none of the prescription med's the doc gave her even touched.
>
> FWIW,
>
> Mike

Try a mix of CS/DMSO (50/50) topically on the remaining pain.  It works
wonders for my husband.

Jeannie


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Re: CS>Brewer's yeast and insects

[Jeannie]

qec...@aol.com wrote:

> but the CS kills the yeast.

Brewer's yeast isn't still alive anyhow, is it?

Jeannie

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Re: CS>West Nile Virus - Speaking of mosquitoes....

[Jeannie]

lindael...@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 8/5/02 10:16:08 AM Central Daylight Time,
> res00...@gte.net writes:
>
>
>
>> i had read an article in the "prevention" mag., stating that taking
>> a good
>> amount of vitamin b-3 would repell the critters.  so, i loaded us
>> all with
>> b-3 for about a week before we went. 5 days in the wild and not one
>> bite
>> till the last day. and that was only because dad forgot to pack the
>> b-3, and
>> it was wearing off.
>>
>
> Okay, b-3, so far, and garlic, and permethrin.  I'll try them all, and
> keep those suggestions coming, please!  Thanks for the input so far.
> Any advice for the Raccoons?
>
> Linda

I read that eating lots of brewers yeast would keep the bugs away.
Hasn't it got a lot of B vitamins in it?  Maybe it's the B-3.

Jeannie


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CS>Another use for CS

[Jeannie]

We are going on a picnic tomorrow, and I am making the potato salad.  It will 
be out of the refrig for hours.  I used a couple of tablespoons of CS in it.  
It feels so good to know it can't grow bacteria and poison my family.

Jeannie
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CS>Placebos

[Jeannie]

Here is some more quite interesting information from the same source.

Jeannie


Jaded Junker wrote:

> FLYING UNDER THE RADAR
>
> Health Sciences Institute e-Alert
>
> July 25, 2002
>
> **
>
> Dear Reader,
>
> Placebo. As a pharmaceutical research tool it's dismissed as
> nothing but a sugar pill. What could be more innocuous or
> benign? Even the sound of the word is comforting somehow. In
> fact, it comes from the Latin word meaning "I shall please."
> Everything about the word is guileless.
>
> Or so I thought. If you're like me, you'll be shocked - actually
> more like flabbergasted - to find out that drug research trials
> bring a whole new meaning to the old Latin idea of "I shall
> please."
>
> --
> Take two SweetTarts and call me in the morning
> --
>
> There was a time long ago when doctors would prescribe phony
> medication - sugar pills - to their patients who they regarded
> as hypochondriacs. They called the pills "placebo" and when the
> patients reported positive results the idea of the placebo
> effect was born.
>
> These days, placebo pills are used in clinical trials to measure
> the true effect of a drug or supplement. They are thought to be
> made of inert substances designed to have no effect. That's the
> idea, anyway. But consider this: there's no such thing really as
> an inert substance. For instance, placebo pills are still called
> sugar pills. Is sugar inert? Far from it, of course. If you take
> a sugar pill, your body will have a reaction, especially if you
> happen to have an insulin disorder. But if you're given that
> same pill as part of a drug research trial, your reaction
> becomes a factor in the research.
>
> That may seem like nothing (what real difference could a little
> boost of sugar make?) but sugar and other supposedly inactive
> ingredients are not the problem. Not in the least.
>
> --
> Not exactly what we thought it was
> --
>
> When a pharmaceutical company tests its products, where do you
> suppose they get placebo pills? Do they place an order with a
> placebo pill manufacturer? Or does Nestle's candy company run a
> little side business to supply researchers with sugar pills?
>
> Would it surprise you to learn that drug companies make their
> own placebo pills for research purposes? And that THEY choose
> the ingredients? And sometimes they purposely put ingredients
> into the placebos that match those in the drug and will affect
> the outcome of the trial. And they are not required to disclose
> the ingredients they use.
>
> Does that sound "inert" or "inactive" to you? Suddenly the idea
> of a "sugar pill" doesn't seem so innocent anymore.
>
> Before conducting human trials for drugs, pharmaceutical
> companies are often fully aware of many of the side effects of
> the products they're testing. So, for instance, if a drug is
> known to cause dizziness and hypertension, the drug company
> running the test wants the placebo to have the same side
> effects. And they have an explanation for this. They say the
> placebo should mimic the drug being tested so that the control
> group of the experiment will have side effects similar to the
> placebo group. Without that, they claim, the results of a blind
> study would be compromised.
>
> There are plenty of gray areas to debate in that logic, but for
> the moment let's focus on the idea of what they call an "active
> placebo," designed to mimic the side effects of a tested drug.
> And with that in mind let's look at an advertising campaign for
> the allergy medication called Claritin. In all their TV spots,
> when it comes to the moment to list the side effects, the
> voice-over says, "The most common side effects with Claritin,
> including headache, drowsiness, fatigue and dry mouth, occurred
> about as often as they did with a sugar pill."
>
> A sugar pill? Really? Just what kind of "sugar pill" were they
> using that caused headache, drowsiness, fatigue and dry mouth?
> Sounds to me like a sugar pill with a little something added.
> But they want us to believe that their powerful medication will
> produce side effects no more serious than what you'd get with a
> little dab of sugar.
>
> --
> The cat is still in the b

CS>EU law

[Jeannie]

Someone sent me the following.  Does anyone know any more about this?  I
don't know about the inferred conspiracy stuff (money seems like a good
enough motive to me), but what about the law?  Is it for real?

Jeannie


Jaded Junker wrote:

  from nomorefakenews.com... it is happening quickly in the
world...taking away choices



  THURSDAY, JULY 25.  The UK Telegraph reports on new EU
  legislation which will close down 2000 health-food stores in England.
Boom.



  ADD:  This EU rule was proposed and rammed through by the British
Medicines Control Agency.  Herbal medicines will be considered drugs,
and therefore will be subject to very expensive controlled studies
before being allowed on the market.



  ADD:  Since most companies that sell these herbs can't afford to test
them, the companies will shut down.

  ADD:  All this is retroactive, because many herbs are sold in England
and the rest of Europe.  All of a sudden, despite an excellent safety
record, the herbs will have to "start from scratch" in a lengthy
approval process.



  ADD:  Even more strange:  In England, the only official complaints
about herbal remedies have focused on certain preparations made up by
Chinese practitioners.  A few of these products have been accused of
being toxic or contaminated.  However, the new EU rules EXEMPT these
remedies from the need for testing.

  ADD:  If there is no last-minute reprieve, the new EU rules will drive
a major wedge into alternative medicine's territory.

ADD:  To say that the medical cartel has been one of the major
  backers of the EU all along would be a vast understatement.

  ADD:  Under the basic principle of HARMONIZATION, which is the cover
story given to all EU and WTO rulings, we could see efforts to bring
other countries, including the US, under this new umbrella of health
fascism.

ADD:  The new EU rule is essentially saying, "We need to protect the
vast program of poisoning which is proceeding under the banner of
pharmaceutical medicine--we need to protect THAT from competition from
the safe, harmless natural health movement."

  ADD:  Well, when you put it that way.  Yes, I AM putting it that way.
Because it is the stark truth.  The rule is saying DEATH BEFORE  LIFE.
At the highest levels, this overall war against the population is
INTENTIONAL.

  ADD:  It is not just another fumbling, bumbling mistake.  It is not
just  about profits.  Because you and I are not the only people who can
add up the devastation caused by pharmaceutical medicine.

 ADD:  "They're just blind and profit mad.  They don't know what
  they're doing."  No, I'm afraid not.  SOMEBODY knows what he's
  doing.  And that somebody (a few somebodies) happens to be at the top
of the pharmaceutical structure.

 ADD:  "Forgive them as they destroy you.  For they know not what
they're doing."  Go ahead, sing that tune if you want to.  But it's a
lie.

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Re: CS>Filtering thoughts...

[Jeannie]

Ode Coyote wrote:

>   Stuck on plateout won't contaminate the silver but it can short out the
> process in varying degrees if allowed to stay.
>  If it gets thick enough to actually look silvery, it can be VERY hard to
> remove.
> Ken

I appreciate your taking the time to clear things up.  I simply don't have
the time to sort through the archives.  I'm lucky to read my email.

Isn't there a danger of shocking yourself if you wipe the electrodes while it
is still running?

Jeannie




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Re: CS>Filtering thoughts...

[Jeannie]

Jack Dayton wrote:

> > From: Jeannie 
> >
> > The only thing that seems to get on my equipment is silver.  Why > is that a
> problem? Why should it have to be cleaned off?
>
> If the "silver" can be seen, it is not the colloidal
> silver that you want.  Scrub it out of the container,
> then rinse with DW.  Now your ready for a new
> batch.

Ok, I'm quite puzzled.  Over several years of use some silver has plated out
onto the container I make the CS in.  Of course I know that isn't colloidal
silver!  But why would it make a difference that there is silver on the
container, not just on the electrodes?  How can that pollute the colloidal
silver I make in the container?

I'm not going to the work of cleaning it every time and maybe accidentally
leaving some soap residue or something unless I can understand how that would
interfere with the process of making colloidal silver.

Jeannie

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>
> Jack
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Oregon Coast

Re: CS>More uses for silver?

[Jeannie]

Jack Dayton wrote:

> > From: "James Allison" 
> >
> > Anyhow, to make this "on
> > topic", what year is the silver anniversary (okay, maybe I need to start
> > doubling my ginkgo dosage)?
>
> It's the 25th
>
> Jack
>
> P S the wife an I were married on 5/07/
> (are you ready for this?) '49

Wow!  and I thought we were doing really good.  Golden one next year.

Jeannie

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Re: CS>Filtering thoughts...

[Jeannie]

Gaston wrote:

> One of the other factor that does not seem to be emphasized enough is
> to keep all CS containers and equipment very clean. I use distilled water to 
> rinse them
> several times prior to use. This is mostly important, otherwise CS can be 
> contaminated.
>
> Gaston

The only thing that seems to get on my equipment is silver.  Why is that a 
problem?  Why
should it have to be cleaned off?

Jeannie

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CS>intro

[Jeannie]

silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com wrote:

 To get things going in the direction of what you need, please make a
post to introduce yourself and *TELL US* what you're looking for.

Hi. I'm Jeannie.  I have been using colloidal silver for myself and my
animals for a number of years now, and making my own.  I've had a lot of
successes, but am always open to learning new and better uses, methods,
etc. etc..  That is what I am hoping to find here.

I run a cat boarding facility, and a cat rescue, so have had a lot of
animals to treat--as well as myself and family.

 Jeannie


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RE: CS>Kawasaki/ Dotsie

[Jeannie]

Try this link...Kefir is even better than yogurt (nutritionally) as long as
you are not allergic to dairy.  My kids prefer to drink kefir before
drinking milk.
www.lifeway.net/prods.htm

Jeannie


-Original Message-
From: mama2b...@aol.com [mailto:mama2b...@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 11:29 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Kawasaki/ Dotsie

To Dave Perkins, betterwayhealth.com

How does one make kefir?  I'd like to know.  :o)


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RE: CS>New to List

[Jeannie]

Christy...I'd like to keep in touch with you because you seem to have a
wealth of information regarding this stuff.  What is "rifing".  Also, I'm
not on Lyme-Aid...what is that?  I didn't know that primrose increased
estrogen, although I'm reaching the age when I need to be concerned about
estrogen level.  Great - another thing to have to worry about. LOL

Jeannie

-Original Message-
From: ritz3...@aol.com [mailto:ritz3...@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 3:06 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>New to List

Hi Jeannie,

Keep in touch with me.  Did you know evening primrose can increase estrogen?
Some women may not want to do that.I  Also, did you say you were on
Lyme-AID?
An MD seems to think some MS cases may be Lyme.  Also, I am also "rifing".
I
can tell you more later if you want.  I have had MS symptoms and their is
even a family history of it but they seem to be getting better.  I a
recently
started doing freqs on the rife machine for lyme in addition to the other
ones i was doing.

Christy

 a message dated 6/5/00 9:37:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
jean...@karlster.com writes:

<< Subj: RE: CS>New to List
 Date:  6/5/00 9:37:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time
 From:  jean...@karlster.com (Jeannie)
 Reply-to:  silver-list@eskimo.com
 To:silver-list@eskimo.com

 Hi Christy...
 I was using only 10ppm two times per day.  It took about 2 months for me to
 start really feeling its affects.  Although I was also taking a number of
 other supplements, some of which I have returned to, such as pantothenic
 acid (up to 1500 mg/day), CoQ10, primrose oil, calcium/magnesium
supplement,
 garlic tablets, B-complex, flax seed, and fish oils.

 A nurse practitioner who knows about these problems also believes that it's
 probably CNS Lyme.  The only thing is that when this 'episode' started
 similar symptoms began, but showed themselves in slightly different ways.
 Because of my long term experience with this, it completely threw me.  I
 will have to wait and see.  But I certainly won't sit back and wait.

 Thanks for the message.

 Jeannie
  >>


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RE: CS>New to List

[Jeannie]

Hi Christy...
I was using only 10ppm two times per day.  It took about 2 months for me to
start really feeling its affects.  Although I was also taking a number of
other supplements, some of which I have returned to, such as pantothenic
acid (up to 1500 mg/day), CoQ10, primrose oil, calcium/magnesium supplement,
garlic tablets, B-complex, flax seed, and fish oils.

A nurse practitioner who knows about these problems also believes that it's
probably CNS Lyme.  The only thing is that when this 'episode' started
similar symptoms began, but showed themselves in slightly different ways.
Because of my long term experience with this, it completely threw me.  I
will have to wait and see.  But I certainly won't sit back and wait.

Thanks for the message.

Jeannie


-Original Message-
From: ritz3...@aol.com [mailto:ritz3...@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 10:14 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>New to List

Hi Jeannie,

I would assume its probably CNS Lyme.  That's great the success you had with
CS in the past.  I would go back to that and stay on it.

Can I ask what ppm you used and what dose?

Thanks,

Christy

In a message dated 6/5/00 4:30:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
ar...@nf.sympatico.ca writes:

<<
 > Hi to all... I just subscribed to this list because I found
 > colloidal silver (again).  A few years ago I was diagnosed with
 > Lyme Disease, after spending 3 years being misdiagnosed and
 > almost crippled.  After finally receiving antibiotic therapy
 > and my body not tolerating such after a couple of years, I
 > turned to alternative medicine.  Several homeopaths and
 > nutritionists had told me about colloidal silver, so I began to
 > do my own investigation on the limited literature available at
 > the time.
 >
 > I found that it really helped me alot and after about a year, I
 > fell off the wagon (so to speak) because I was feeling pretty
 > good.  About 8 months ago, I started slipping again into a
 > stupor, double vision, trouble with speech and gait and once
 > again started on the travails to find out what was wrong.
 >
 > It again is a question mark between MS and CNS Lyme Disease.. I
 > guess my question right now is, if it is MS, will taking the
 > Colloidal Silver hurt me in any way.  Does anyone know anything
 > about this?
 >
 > Thank you and good health to all of you,
 >
 > Jeannie >>


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RE: CS>New to List

[Jeannie]

Diane,  Thanks for your responseA. Rose also brought up aspartame or
nutrasweet as possible culprits...I have always tried to stay away from
these additives; of course it's difficult sometimes when an entire society
throws this stuff in without thought.  However, I have developed severe food
allergies, which can also have a very similar affect on one's immune system.
I don't know if anyone else has run into this, but I'm going to try a Detox
Diet.  Maybe others have had similar things happen to them.

Thanks again,

Jeannie

-Original Message-
From: d.linen [mailto:li...@flash.net]
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 12:56 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>New to List

Welcome Jeannie,



> Jeannie wrote:

> Hi to all... I just subscribed to this list because I found colloidal
> silver (again).  A few years ago I was diagnosed with Lyme Disease,
> after spending 3 years being misdiagnosed and almost crippled.  After
> finally receiving antibiotic therapy and my body not tolerating such
> after a couple of years, I turned to alternative medicine.  Several
> homeopaths and nutritionists had told me about colloidal silver, so I
> began to do my own investigation on the limited literature available
> at the time.
>
>
>
> I found that it really helped me alot and after about a year, I fell
> off the wagon (so to speak) because I was feeling pretty good.  About
> 8 months ago, I started slipping again into a stupor, double vision,
> trouble with speech and gait and once again started on the travails to
> find out what was wrong.

I'm not familiar with symptoms of Lyme disease. Are these a part of the
symptoms?


> It again is a question mark between MS and CNS Lyme Disease.. I guess
> my question right now is, if it is MS, will taking the Colloidal
> Silver hurt me in any way.  Does anyone know anything about this?

I don't think it will hurt you and it could help. There are many who
take CS who also have Lyme Disease. I'd like to ask if in the past or
even now have you ingested aspartame/Nutrasweet? We recently had a
discussion about MS symptoms and aspartame.

I'm sorry you didn't get answers to your questions. I'm glad you are
here anyway because someone may have experienced similar problems as you
have and may be able to be of help to you.

Diane


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RE: CS>New to List

[Jeannie]

Thanks Liz...I'm in the same boat with my daughter as well (although I think
she may have escaped any permanent or malingering damage - at least I
hope) Yes, I have been inundated with posts, however, I am on a quest to
find answers (as I'm sure we all are) where conventional medicine stops.
I'm very thankful for sites like this because otherwise we would very much
be in the dark.

Thanks again,

Jeannie

-Original Message-
From: lfzbiz...@aol.com [mailto:lfzbiz...@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 6:47 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>New to List

Hey, Jeannie!   May you be inundated with posts, as I have!  I have Lyme and
so does my daughter, so feel free to e-mail me directly!

lfzbiz...@aol.com

Lynn


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RE: CS>New to List

[Jeannie]

Alvin…Thank you so much for the info…I never knew about the aspartame thing
although I have always been very suspicious of that and nutrasweet.
Therefore, I don’t take anything (at least consciously) with that in it and
also don’t let my kids have anything with those substances.  But I will
check that lead out …..thanks again.

Jeannie

-Original Message-
From: Alvin Rose [mailto:ar...@nf.sympatico.ca]
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 11:57 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>New to List

Jeannie
have you looked at the idea that you may have aspertame
poisoning..I understand the symptoms are close to MS  etc.
Diet pepsi and coke and some artificial sweetners such as
nutrasweet contain aspertame..said to be a very dangerous
chemical which acumulates in areas of the body and is difficult to undo.
There is information in the archives on this list. so with a little
searching
you can find it...Maybe Mike can tell you where it is.
A.Rose
Jeannie wrote:
I’m saying hello again, as I never got a response to my original post.What a
way to greet a new poster.I would be nice if someone responded, even if it
were to say they didn’t know the answer.
-Original Message-
From: Jeannie Kiefer [ mailto:jean...@karlster.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 11:42 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>New to List
Hi to all... I just subscribed to this list because I found colloidal silver
(again).  A few years ago I was diagnosed with Lyme Disease, after spending
3 years being misdiagnosed and almost crippled.  After finally receiving
antibiotic therapy and my body not tolerating such after a couple of years,
I turned to alternative medicine.  Several homeopaths and nutritionists had
told me about colloidal silver, so I began to do my own investigation on the
limited literature available at the time.
I found that it really helped me alot and after about a year, I fell off the
wagon (so to speak) because I was feeling pretty good.  About 8 months ago,
I started slipping again into a stupor, double vision, trouble with speech
and gait and once again started on the travails to find out what was wrong.
It again is a question mark between MS and CNS Lyme Disease.. I guess my
question right now is, if it is MS, will taking the Colloidal Silver hurt me
in any way.  Does anyone know anything about this?
Thank you and good health to all of you,
Jeannie

RE: CS>New to List

[Jeannie]

Nina, Thank you so much for your reply...I really appreciate the info...
especially about the viral possibility with MS and the reference to the
book.

Thanks again

Jeannie

-Original Message-
From: Nina Silver, Ph.D. [mailto:n...@bestweb.net]
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 7:23 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>New to List

> -Original Message-
> From: Jeannie Kiefer [mailto:jean...@karlster.com]
> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 11:42 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>New to List


> It again is a question mark between MS and CNS Lyme Disease.. I guess my
> question right now is, if it is MS, will taking the Colloidal Silver hurt
me
> in any way.  Does anyone know anything about this?

> Jeannie

Jeannie,
Thank you for writing again. Since CS has a fabulous track record in being
safe no matter what (provided it's made correctly), I can't imagine that it
would hurt you even if you did have Multiple Sclerosis. However, even
better, your question the second time jogged my memory and I remember
reading theories stating that a viral infection in the spinal cord is
implicated in MS -- so whether it's MS or Lyme's, it may not matter in some
ways. Take CS and you'll likely improve, especially since you improved the
first time.

Dr. Donsbach has a book, by the way, on treating MS with nutrients and oils.
You might want to check it out.

Good luck.
Nina


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RE: CS>New to List

[Jeannie]

I’m saying hello again, as I never got a response to my original post.  What
a way to greet a new poster.  I would be nice if someone responded, even if
it were to say they didn’t know the answer.

-Original Message-
From: Jeannie Kiefer [mailto:jean...@karlster.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 11:42 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>New to List

Hi to all... I just subscribed to this list because I found colloidal silver
(again).  A few years ago I was diagnosed with Lyme Disease, after spending
3 years being misdiagnosed and almost crippled.  After finally receiving
antibiotic therapy and my body not tolerating such after a couple of years,
I turned to alternative medicine.  Several homeopaths and nutritionists had
told me about colloidal silver, so I began to do my own investigation on the
limited literature available at the time.

I found that it really helped me alot and after about a year, I fell off the
wagon (so to speak) because I was feeling pretty good.  About 8 months ago,
I started slipping again into a stupor, double vision, trouble with speech
and gait and once again started on the travails to find out what was wrong.

It again is a question mark between MS and CNS Lyme Disease.. I guess my
question right now is, if it is MS, will taking the Colloidal Silver hurt me
in any way.  Does anyone know anything about this?

Thank you and good health to all of you,


Jeannie

CS>New to List

[Jeannie Kiefer]

Hi to all... I just subscribed to this list because I found colloidal silver 
(again).  A few years ago I was diagnosed with Lyme Disease, after spending 3 
years being misdiagnosed and almost crippled.  After finally receiving 
antibiotic therapy and my body not tolerating such after a couple of years, I 
turned to alternative medicine.  Several homeopaths and nutritionists had told 
me about colloidal silver, so I began to do my own investigation on the limited 
literature available at the time.  

I found that it really helped me alot and after about a year, I fell off the 
wagon (so to speak) because I was feeling pretty good.  About 8 months ago, I 
started slipping again into a stupor, double vision, trouble with speech and 
gait and once again started on the travails to find out what was wrong.  

It again is a question mark between MS and CNS Lyme Disease.. I guess my 
question right now is, if it is MS, will taking the Colloidal Silver hurt me in 
any way.  Does anyone know anything about this?  

Thank you and good health to all of you,


Jeannie