Re: CS>natural antibiotic????
Thanks for the information!! Katie - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 6:34 AM Subject: Re: CS>natural antibiotic > Biocidin, yes, I have. I believe it is used to restore intestinal flora and whatnot. > > Just took a moment to do a 'net search... > > http://www.biobotanicalresearch.com/website/patients/patient_home.html > > seems to be the manufacturer's site. It reveals... > > Ingredients: > > Chlorophyll > Impatiens pallida (isn't this a flower???) > Hydrastis canadensis (goldenseal) > Ferula galbanum(???) > Hypericum perforatum (St. John's Wort???) > Villa rubris (???) > Fumaria formosa(cayenne???) > Frasera carolinensis (???) > Gentiana campestris(???) > Sanguinaria canadensis (bloodroot) > Allicin(garlic) > > Sounds to me like it's all herbs, maybe some flower essences in there. > > silver-list@eskimo.com wrote: > > Has anyone heard of Biocydin (not sure about spelling). My chiropractor > wants me to take it. > > Thanks! > Katie > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > >
CS>natural antibiotic????
Has anyone heard of Biocydin (not sure about spelling). My chiropractor wants me to take it. Thanks! Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>RETURN OF THE SILVER LIST!
> > Mike: A very Big "DITTO" from me as well. Roger > And a very Big "TRITTO" from me :o) Thanks, Mike. Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>question for John Rigby
Joanne ThomasonHi John! Thanks for all the information you share with us! Here are my questions: 1. How do you make Kefir? 2. Can you give a few suggestions for "fermented bits"? 3. What are REAL grains and REAL bread? 4. Do you have a fast you recommend? I have Type II diabetes--FYI. With love, Katie
Re: CS stimulates bacteria???
Thanks, Marshall. I do plan to get the mercury out, but am too sick to have that done right now. I was advised to build up my system a bit and get the fillings removed in November. One day at a time :o) Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>AMG silver amplification...was :Sorting out silver issues
dent on temperature, concentration of > silver ions, and concentration of reducing molecules (in casu > hydroquinone). 3) The size and amount of catalytic crystal lattices per > mm³ tissue influence not only the colour but also the density of the AMG > grains. > > In 1911 Liesegang demonstrated that shades observed in the light > microscope ranged from yellow for the smallest grains, to orange, red, > brown, olive and black with successively larger grains (Liesegang 1911). > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Katie Jay" > To: > Sent: Sunday, 17 September 2000 07:50 > Subject: CS>Sorting out silver issues > > > > Hi all, > > > > I had posted awhile back that a guy said taking CS when you have > mercury in > > your body is not good. I finally got an answer from him. I had posted > a note > > to him months ago looking for further information. I would be grateful > to > > hear your reactions to his assertions. For one, he mentions the > Argyria > > thing, which discredits him, at least to some degree. Here is what he > said: > > > > Silver starts accumulating to the very small > > mercury deposits in the tissues, and the silver accumulation can grow > > so large that the silver nodules become visible in microscope, and > that > > size accumulations were found tissue damaging in the research, for > > example, think what happens if you accumulate such large nodules > > in the brains and liver on the previosly very small and microscope > > non-visible nano-colloidal size mercury deposits and turn those into > > micro-macro size silver nodules with colloidal silver growing on the > > mercury seeds. > > > > This method is called more scientifically "silver amplification" and > > it is a known research method that researchers use to turn > non-microscope > > visible mercury deposits to visible ones by letting nano-colloidal > silver > > grow on the pre-existing mercury in the tissues. > > > > Additionally, silver causes neurological problems, binds to body > thiols, > > and can cause silver poisoning called Argyria ( Pale/Bluish face, and > > one may feel very very numb in the extremities especially ) ... > > > > Please look into amalgam list past archives, where I have posted some > > of the silver amplification /silver-tissue accumulation on mercury > seeds > > references. > > > > I have also posted reference that showed that silver triggers the H2S > > production in the GI microbes, ie, one may develop nasty rotten eggy > > gas producing microbial infections over the time, as microbes become > > resistant to the silver. > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS stimulates bacteria???
Dear Carlos, Thanks so much for your note!! It is encouraging to hear that you found relief using the Beck protocol. During my research, I had determined that his protocol sounded the most likely to succeed. The problem is that I have been paralyzed by assertions from others about things like CS being harmful to people who have mercury toxicity (I do), and zapping (Hulda Clark style) stimulating cancer cells (would Beck's device do that?). I am a smart woman who's done plenty of research, but I'm no scientist. Anything you have learned that can dispell CS worries/myths or electric-treatment-devices-causing-cancer worries/myths would be a big help. Thanks for taking the time to write. I am extremely grateful. Katie Jay -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Sorting out silver issues
Hi all, I had posted awhile back that a guy said taking CS when you have mercury in your body is not good. I finally got an answer from him. I had posted a note to him months ago looking for further information. I would be grateful to hear your reactions to his assertions. For one, he mentions the Argyria thing, which discredits him, at least to some degree. Here is what he said: Silver starts accumulating to the very small mercury deposits in the tissues, and the silver accumulation can grow so large that the silver nodules become visible in microscope, and that size accumulations were found tissue damaging in the research, for example, think what happens if you accumulate such large nodules in the brains and liver on the previosly very small and microscope non-visible nano-colloidal size mercury deposits and turn those into micro-macro size silver nodules with colloidal silver growing on the mercury seeds. This method is called more scientifically "silver amplification" and it is a known research method that researchers use to turn non-microscope visible mercury deposits to visible ones by letting nano-colloidal silver grow on the pre-existing mercury in the tissues. Additionally, silver causes neurological problems, binds to body thiols, and can cause silver poisoning called Argyria ( Pale/Bluish face, and one may feel very very numb in the extremities especially ) ... Please look into amalgam list past archives, where I have posted some of the silver amplification /silver-tissue accumulation on mercury seeds references. I have also posted reference that showed that silver triggers the H2S production in the GI microbes, ie, one may develop nasty rotten eggy gas producing microbial infections over the time, as microbes become resistant to the silver. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>I`m Baaack!
Welcome back! Glad you had no problems with your move. Katie - Original Message - From: "Marsha Hallett" > Hi, Silverlist! > I`m now in Utah after a great move. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>OT--great health site
Hi. I loved this health site. Doesn't mention CS, but has lots of good info. http://www.sensiblehealth.com/ Have fun, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Migraines
Marshall triggered a memory for me. I was at a homeschooling get together and a woman arrived with a migraine. Another woman does energy work and spent a few minutes removing a block in the sick woman's energy field. I had never even heard of this kind of healing. The results were almost instant and dramatic. Katie - Original Message - I would see if the guy knows anyone that has healing hands, knows Reiki, > Christian Healing, or has theraputic touch and can do laying on of hands. I > believe lots of people can do it, but most don't say anything because of of the > environment. Personally I know at least 8 people who can do this, and over half > of my friends can. Anyway, I have never known a case of a migrane to NOT go away > upon applying this type of healing for a couple of minutes. > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>OT--zappers
Hi all, As you know I'm using CS and a zapper as part of my lyme protocol. I have just read an opinion on zappers that concerns me. A man said cancer cells grow rapidly when exposed to any amount of electricity that doesn't burn them outright. And he believes the zapper will stimulate cancer cells to grow rapidly. If you believe this man is wrong and the zapper is safe, please explain your reasoning. Thanks, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Urine...a life saver!
Dear June, While I respect your beliefs, please keep in mind not everyone shares your religious views. I hope we don't use them as a reason not to share potentially useful alternative health information. At the same time, I think the ongoing discussion has digressed into something unnecessarily gross. I am keeping an open mind about the urine. I'll do what I have to do to get healthy, so that I can see my son grow up strong and meet my grandchildren someday. With love, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Salmonella
Thanks, Marshall. Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Salmonella
Hi, My nephew, 9, has been diagnosed with Salmonella (sp?). Does anyone have direct experience with using CS for that? Will you say, specifically, what the course the illness took using CS? Will CS kill the beneficial bacteria in the colon? That was the reason the doctor gave for not using antibiotics. Thanks, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>OT - detoxifying
Thanks!! Katie > Someone earlier mentioned taking a hot bath with epsom salts... > I'd get the water hot enough to sweat some, that's for sure! Good luck > Katie! > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>new--cs and mercury
Thanks, pj!! I am feeling very well following a treatment with ultraviolet blood irradiation. I still have cautions about CS and mercury. The man who warned against the combination never wrote me back in answer to my request for proof. Has anyone gotten any further relevant information that might help me feel better about taking CS? Love to all, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Liver Cleanse
Thanks, katie > Katie - I did my 2nd liver cleanse after I reached the 2 t per dose of Black > Walnut & it worked great, about 300 gall stones removed. My first try was a > failure because I did not do her parasite program first. At least it proved > to me that Dr. Clark was on to something. > Brickey -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>OT - detoxifying
Thanks, Marshall! Katie
Re: CS>OT - detoxifying
Thanks for your kind words, pj! I knew I could count on my silver list to help me feel supported!! Love, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>OT - detoxifying
Brickey, Thanks for the information!! I did a parasite cleanse for a couple of weeks. Is that enough? Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>OT - detoxifying
Sorry this is off topic, but I'm kindof desperate! I got an ultraviolet blood irradiation treatment today (kills germs and oxyzenates the blood) that is supposed to cause a lot of die off. What can I do to minimize this? I was told to take a sauna, but can't find one! I can't believe they didn't tell me this until I was getting ready to walk out the door at 5pm!! They said I'll really suffer if I don't do it! Grr. I feel so abused!! I have grape seed extract and aloe vera gel at home and am taking these. On another topic, does anyone have ideas for an easy kidney cleanse? I don't think I have it in me to buy the herbs in bulk and steep them, etc., and Dr. Hulda Clark suggests. Is there anything simpler I could do? Also, how critical is it that I do a kidney cleanse before a liver cleanse? Thanks! Katie
Re: CS>Chelating heavy metals.
You may want to ask the dentist about Biocalex endodonic sealer, which is supposedly better than the standard material. I have no experience with it, but that's what was recommended to me. Katie - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 8:45 PM Subject: Re: CS>Chelating heavy metals. > When you take out amalgams, what good stuff do you use to replace it? Dr. > Clark is saying the composites are just as bad as the mercury. She said > cancer patients were dying unless they had their amalgams pulled out. > Brickey > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>Chelating heavy metals.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think SOL means *hit out of luck. Katie - Original Message - From: "Sue Stewart" To: Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 11:47 AM Subject: CS>Chelating heavy metals. > Jeannine, > You seem very knowledgeable on the mercury front. > > What does SOL mean ? I guess it may be obvious and I`m probably thick - due > to mercury ! > > How can one tell if mercury has crossed the blood brain barrier (this is the > first time I have heard of this) and what does one do if it has ? > If it has, is the homeopathic protocol still effective ? > I may add I have eaten masses of garlic and coriander before and after > amalgam removal, not even knowing they were chelating agents. > > Thanks for your advice to date, > > Sue. > > - Original Message - > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 3:10 AM > Subject: CS>OT - very ... nancy whoa... wrong > > > > Nancy: > > you misunderstood me; I tried cilantro almost 2 years ago and couldn't > stand > > the taste luckily for me. If you chelate using anything IMHO, before > > amalgram removal, you are seriously risking crossing the blood brain > barrier. > > I specifically asked this question of my wholistic dentist before he did > > mine. Because I saw this debated back and forth and then back and forth > > again for months on the metals list. We are not doctors here, or > dentists. > > My dentist is a 3rd generation dentist and mercury free for over 20 years. > > If you chelate before, the mercury can and will cross the blood brain > > barrier. Once the lesions form, you have hell to pay to remove them. In > > your tissues, in your blood is one thing, but once lesions form. you > can > > be SOL forever. I also personally would never submit to DMSA or DMPS to > > chelate after amalgram removal. Again, I seem to be only person on the > > metals list that didn't do the expense stuff and I seem to be the only one > in > > *remission* especially so soon. I thank God for my friend who prescribed > me > > a very simple and inexpensive homeopathic protocol. Even he was surprised > at > > my turnaround. > > > > On the road again, > > Jeannine > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>Re:received blood pru &pulsar hiv
Thanks, Hugh. Immunocal has been strongly recommended for my lyme disease. (Did I say that already?) I'll post how well it seems to help (or not). Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS and mercury
Ivan! Thanks for taking the time to study this. I am deeply grateful. Here's the blurb at the end of the metals list posts that should help you to join: You are currently subscribed to metals as: mcur...@integralpart.com |To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-metals-1888...@telelists.com |-- |"metals" list can be joined by visiting http://www.cfsn.com/metlist.html Thanks, again!!! Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re:received blood pru &pulsar hiv
Dear James, I was recently made aware of something called Immunocal, which is supposed to be great. Anyone else heard of it or tried it? It's supposed to be good for the immune system. Here's a link. http://www.immune-response.net/ Has anyone used glutathione? Here's a link for that: http://www.drglutathione.com/ As always, I am new to all this, so do your own research!! Best wishes, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>I hate doctors
DOCTORS' STRIKE IN ISRAEL MAY BE GOOD FOR HEALTH Judy Siegel-Itzkovich, Israel Sun, Jerusalem "Industrial action by doctors in Israel seems to be good for their patients' health. Death rates have dropped considerably in most of the country since physicians in public hospitals implemented a program of sanctions three months ago, according to a survey of burial societies. . . . "In the absence of official figures, the Jerusalem Post surveyed non-profit making Jewish burial societies, which perform funerals for the vast majority of Israelis, to find out whether the industrial action was affecting deaths in the country. "'The number of funerals we have performed has fallen drastically,' said Hananya Shahor, the veteran director of Jerusalem's Kehilat Yerushalayim burial society. 'This month, there were only 93 funerals compared with 153 in May 1999, 133 in the same month in 1998, and 139 in May 1997. . . ." (Editor's note: This doctors' strike in Israel is only the latest in a long string of doctor strikes in various countries of the world, including the United States. In every instance of a doctors' strike, death rates have fallen dramatically during the strike, sometimes by as much as 50%, only to rise after the strike ended.)
Re: CS>black "stuff" on anode
Thanks, Ivan :o) Did you read my post that quoted someone as saying CS is not good to take if one has mercury toxicity? I am curious what you think of that possibility. The person said the silver binds with the mercury in the tissues and stays there, which risks unhealthy accumulation of silver in the body. I hope people don't dismiss this question without consideration. I am so afraid of causing more damage to my already sick body. Thanks, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS and mercury
Hi all, This was posted on my metals list. I would appreciate your opinions. Love, Katie Sheila asked: > Has anyone really questioned the use of colloidal silver as a remedy, in terms of its own > toxicity, given that the Advisory Commitee of Toxic Substances is still debating the toxic limit > for silver? > Sheila UK Ray responded: Yes. I have done so for 5 years publically, warning people of the dangers of the silver poisoning, and silver accumulation into tissues that grown on invisible mercury seeds. Please read my past writings and warnings of the colloidal silver on amalgam, perhaps on this and also possibly on mcsfn list archives. Regards, Ray S. http://mercure.cjb.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>black "stuff" on anode
So, when I'm making my cs, I don't have to clean the silver wires at all? I was told to do that 30 minutes into the process and again at the end of the hour. It would be great to be able to skip that. I know you just said we don't have to clean the wires, but please reassure me :o) Thanks!! Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS, Beck experiment
Thanks for the information, Terry. I have mycoplasma, too. I will look forward to updates. Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>(no subject)
Sorry I missed it the first time, but what is the folic acid for? Thanks, Katie - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 10:43 AM Subject: CS>(no subject) > Chuck - I got the folic acid from where you said. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>preservation properties
Great idea to use CS to make cosmetics, Carol. I'm going to try that. Katie I'd very much like to make my own > cosmetics. Always the big drawback being > having to keep them in the 'fridge. > Love and Light > Carol > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>OT homeopathy
Here's why I am confused about trying the homeopathic remedies for mercury: I got this off of a metal list: > -- > Hi Christy > > Many thanks for the homeopathic information. I don't know what potency > of Mercurius iodatus ruber the Lymplex contains but to be honest just > knowing there is mercury in there (or the vibration of mercury or > whatever!) makes me too nervous to take it. I've heard stories of > people being made worse from taking homeopathic mercury but I've yet to > hear on these lists of mercury poisoned people being helped by them. > Unless they all just keep quiet about it! > > I also have an intolerance to alcohol and am not too happy about taking > these remedies which all seem to contain alcohol. Perhaps homoeopathy > is just not going to be any use to me at this time. > > best wishes > > Vicky > > elelists.com>, Christy Diemond writes > >-- > >Vicky, > >Homeopathic recipes for remedies in the classical method are prepared by > >taking e.g.., one drop of a substance e.g., mercury, putting it into 99 > >drops of distilled water or alcohol. Then shaking it a prescribed amount of > >times. This is called succession(sp). In the old literature it read like > >hit vile 6 times against a leather bound book. Anyway. Then they take one > >drop of the new solution and add it to 99 drops of water or alcohol and > >shake and so on. Each time this was done it would make for a new potency > >level. After 6 times, the chances of one molecule of the original substance > >being in the entire vile is one to Avocado's number, (which I think is 6.10 > >X 10 to the 26th power). Some potencies are diluted by 10 drops and some > >are by 100 drops. Many believe that the energy frequency left in the base > >of water or alcohol is what cures. So the classical way of matching up a > >remedy with an illness is to compare the symptoms of an actual poisoning to > >the symptoms of the illness. When the frequency and the illness meet then > >somehow it creates extra healing energy, a resonance like the sympathetic > >vibration one gets holding a tuning fork while some plays that same note on > >the piano, that the body doesn't normally have and it begins to heal itself > >as the body has an innate intelligence knows what to do on it's own. > >All that said, some in the homeopathic community have been experimenting > >with some success with what is know as shotgun prescriptions. These are > >more marketable to our magic bullet programming mentalities aaanndd they > >work enough that it seems to be worth it. In the classical methods, it's > >one remedy at a time then watch a long time, like 4 - 6 weeks and follow > >Herring's law of healing. With shotgun, several remedies are grouped > >together in one that usually are prescribed for similar ailments, sometimes > >5 -6 and given at the same time. If one remedy is right and it works, > >great, but you don't know which one. It may also work out to be faster. It > >sounds like you have one of these shotgun remedies with a bunch of remedies > >in one vile. Mercurius Iodatus Ruber is a form of mercury used to make the > >remedy by the same name called Bin-iodide of Mercury. There are many > >variations of mercury used to make remedies and this is one of them. There > >is probably a number listed after it like 6X which would indicate the > >potency level. The higher the number, the more times it is diluted/shaken > >and the stronger the action of the remedy, (energy frequency, probably the > >level of excitement of the atoms), if it is the correct remedy. > >Homeopathics are a very powerful healing medicine. It is very rare that > >one gets into too much trouble with them because they are not drugs or the > >like. Although I believe it is quite an art to prescribe exactly and too > >much healing at once can make for a very uncomfortable aggravation and if it > >were me, and understand homeopathy often has kept me upright, I would > >probably want to lean towards doing it the classical way. It's safer and > >more conservative usually. Although 6X is a pretty low IE safe potency. > >Does it say what potency you have? > >Christy Diemond > > > > > > > -- > Metals and Human Health - An E-mail Discussion Forum Sponsored by > CFS Nutrition - "Feed Your Health"TM > http://www.cfsn.com > -- > You are currently subscribed to metals as: kj...@erols.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-metals-1940...@telelists.com > -- > "metals" list can be joined by visiting http://www.cfsn.com/metlist.html -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list
CS>OT Marsha's move
Marsha, How exciting! You'll love being close to the grandkids! I grew up knowing my grandmas very well and felt so loved by them! Enjoy! Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>OT Homeopathy
Thank you so much for offering to advise. I am going to get my mercury fillings removed. A woman who had mercury poisoning used a homeopathic protocol to rid herself of the poison. I will copy the protocol below and would be most grateful if you could give me your opinion about it. The woman did not do chelation, which apparently is controversial. She said this protocol saved her life and she felt great in about 6 weeks. Thanks again!!! Katie Here's the woman's note to me: Katie: This protocol is the one that my former boyfriend who a PHd in Naturopathy and a PHd in Nursing put me on to save my life I am the only person on the metals list that seems to have come out of mercury poisoning without major problems.. within 6 weeks I was almost symptom free. What you have is a systemic infection and mercury poisoning.. systemic from your cracked teeth - although you may not know it yet. Take homeopathy prior to eating and avoid coffee/caffeine for 1/2 hr To be safe dont drink caffine for 1/2hr before or after As for heat I always keep a bottle of beladona in the car in the summer time and it is still affective againts heat prostration and the car is 140 deg in the shade BUY: Mecurous Vivus - 30x. Aurum Metallicum (gold) - 200x - very rare (if you can't find this get a lower dose) Arsenicum - 30 x How to take a homeopathic compound DO NOT POUR IT OUT INTO YOUR HAND. Carefully pour it into the lid until you have three or 4 tabs and then you pour it into your hand. Do not pour from the bottle into your hand and then place it back in the bottle. When Ive done this I leave the excess out and take another dose later with the excess. Dosing Mecurous Vivus - Day 1 - take 3 or 4 tabs every 15 min for 1 hour then take 3 or 4 tabs every 1 hr for 4 hours take 3 or 4 tabs every 4 hrs Day 2 through 4 - take 3 or 4 tabs four times a day Arsenicum - Day 1 - take 3 or 4 tabs every 15 min for 1 hour then take 3 or 4 tabs every 1 hr for 4 hours take 3 or 4 tabs every 4 hrs Day 2 through 4 - take 3 or 4 tabs four times a day Take Mecurious first hour then start Arsenicum the second hour take about 5 min apart Aurum Metallicum (gold) - 200x - very rare - This is ultra high potency Day 1 - take 3 or 4 tabs twice Day 2 to 3 - take 3 or 4 tabs once a day -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Difficult decision [lyme disease]
Thanks, Judith. I can do it! I have given up other things (like alcohol). I really appreicate your support. It's nice not to be in this alone. And it's a joy to know people who are striving to improve instead of being victims. Take care. Love, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>OT Homeopathy
Thanks, Marsha! By the way, when are you moving. I still want to send you that check!! Take care, Katie - Original Message - From: "Marsha Hallett" To: Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 7:35 PM Subject: Re: CS>OT Homeopathy > > > Hi everyone! > > > Does anyone here know a lot about homeopathy? I have been given a > protocol > > that uses homeopathic remedies to combat mercury poisoning. I just don't > > know how to evaluate it against other types of treatment. > > > We can take this off list if you want! > > > Thanks, > > Katie > > Dear Katie, > Write to Donna Earnest at: d.m.earn...@worldnet.att.net > She can help! > Marsha > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
CS>OT Homeopathy
Hi everyone! Does anyone here know a lot about homeopathy? I have been given a protocol that uses homeopathic remedies to combat mercury poisoning. I just don't know how to evaluate it against other types of treatment. We can take this off list if you want! Thanks, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Difficult decision [lyme disease]
I have used aspertame, regularly, but not frequently. Now, of course, I'm trying to quit. I got a live blood analysis that showed spirochete bacteria. That, along with the symptoms I have, pointed to the clinical diagnosis of lyme. In some ways I'm not convinced I have it. But I do have infection that shows up in my blood. Thanks for the warning on aspertame. Yet one more thing to let go of in order to get healthy! Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Difficult decision
Hm. Very interesting. I think I'll go drink some now! Katie (Determined to win!) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Difficult decision
Thanks, Marshall. I think my no and yes are okay. I started by repeating and focusing on NO, and waited to see the direction of the pendulum. Then I did the same for yes. Then, I repeated both to make sure. I'll continue this research. I appreciate you help. Katie - Original Message - From: "Marshall Dudley" To: Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 9:21 AM Subject: Re: CS>Difficult decision > Katie Jay wrote: > > > Marshall, > > > > I just now used the pendulum method you described to ask my body what it > > needs. It said no CS, no zapper, no doxycycline. Yes to getting fillings > > removed, yes to a particular doctor as long as he uses a dam. > > > > What are the three best chelating agents in your opinion? I'm going to see > > what my body says about those. Also, what oral one do you take? > > > > I do have a good dentist to remove the fillings. > > Are you sure you got your yes and no defined properly? > > Also be very careful how you phrase the question. The subconcous is literal > to a fault. For instance, if you ask if your body needs CS you will likely > get a no, since it is not a vitamin or anything. Instead ask if taking CS and > the zapper will help get rid of the lyme, a subtle but different question that > can give a totally different answer. > > I am using the Ageless product http://www.yournutrition.com/oral.html which I > find to be very good. > > Marshall > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>Difficult decision
Marshall, I just now used the pendulum method you described to ask my body what it needs. It said no CS, no zapper, no doxycycline. Yes to getting fillings removed, yes to a particular doctor as long as he uses a dam. What are the three best chelating agents in your opinion? I'm going to see what my body says about those. Also, what oral one do you take? I do have a good dentist to remove the fillings. Thanks, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>NO isopropyl alcohol
I > mixed a 20 PPM CS with 70% isopropyl alcohol (50:50 ratio) and droppered it > into my ear followed by applying a heating pad to further help dissolve the > wax that was impeding CS contact with the infected area. It seem to work > quite rapidly. Hi all, Dr. Hulda Clark says isopropyl alcohol is highly toxic and that it can cause cancer. Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Difficult decision
Hello! I have a difficult decision to make. I have lyme disease and need to get going on my treatment. I had been told to use a zapper, get my mercury fillings removed, and take doxycycline. Then I learned about CS and decided I would try that instead of antibiotics. Someone recently told me it is not good to use a zapper when you have mercury fillings that are degrading. Is that true? Is there a problem with taking CS while I still have the fillings? What would it's efficacy be if I were taking chelating agents to get rid of the mercury? Wouldn't the silver chelate right out of me, too? I'm wondering if in the short term I'd be better off doing the chelation, getting the fillings out and taking the antibiotics. Once I'm done chelating, I could switch to beck's protocal for my lyme (including the use of CS), and zap periodically for the parasites. This group is so helpful to me, your opinions would be greatly appreciated. Love, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>hiv
James, More discussion about Beck's blood electrification (HIV mentioned). Katie: << Do you know of anyone with an auto-immune disease who has used these devices? >> Here is the information I have from various web sites regarding the pulser: They discovered that passing very small amounts of electricity directly through the blood neutralizes the activity of viruses, bacteria, fungi and parasites in the blood. Their US Patent #5,188,738, column 1 line 8 reads, "...to provide electric current flow through the blood or other body fluids at a magnitude that is biologically compatible but is sufficient to render the bacteria, virus, parasites and/or fungus ineffective to infect or affect normally healthy cells while maintaining the biological usefulness of the blood or other fluids..." Electrification is now being successfully used underground around the world. One Eastern MD claims numerous documented cancer cures by using only blood electrification and no surgery, radiation, drugs or chemotherapy. Many were considered terminal. We're even seeing clean blood tests of now healthy patients with previously long-standing Lupus. We have in our posession many IRBâ?Ts showing complete HIV remissions, sero-conversions, and negative PCR tests. The most reasonable theory of why electrification is so surprisingly effective for so many conditions lies in the now-proven fact that when correctly applied directly into blood (not into other body tissue like palms of hands, soles of feet, or organs) it neutralizes all microbes, pathogens, fungi, parasites, viruses, bacteria, mycotoxins and coexisting foreign lifeforms and alien invaders and their byproducts. This should never be confused with Royal Rife or Hulda Clark technology. Effective results are found to require a minimum of 27 Volts under load with low impedance output which must deliver up to several milliamperes measurable current into skin to produce the required 50 to 100 microamperes internally through blood after the inevitable series resistance losses through vessel walls plus several layers of tissue. Electrical currents in blood can be measured with an ac microamp meter by IR drop using partially insulated hypodermic needles inserted ~6 inches apart into the same artery. Clarkâ?Ts "syncro zap" running at her standard 30 khz (considered many octaves too high to be effective) actually measures only ~2.6V peak to peak under load (~2000 ohms) at palms. This is an order of magnitude too low to have any real effect beyond placebo. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>The Truth Hurts
Me too, but I'm always afraid I'm going to miss some precious tidbit of information. I get so much from this list!! Maybe this is a sign I'm spending too much time at the computer and am getting overloaded. Take care, Katie > Katie, I simply delete unread that which does not interest me. > > In a message dated 08/08/2000 20:49:26 Central Daylight Time, kj...@erols.com > writes: > > << > The truth has been discussed here for awhile now and I am glad for the > information and discussion. At the same time, I think the posts are becoming > less informative as they go on. And although the spirit needs healing, I am > more interested in learning here about alternative treatments for my lyme > disease. >> > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
CS stimulates bacteria???
Hi all, I'm continuing the discussion with the woman who said her MS bacterial count trippled while she was on CS. I know this may have no merit in the efficacy of CS, but here are the further details she gave me. Thanks, Katie Her words: Making it myself with Beck machine; about 4-5 ounces a day 5 days a week for 6 months. No antibiotics then. So two different doctors told me C.S. stimulated some bacteria; BUT to date NO substantiating medical papers, just words. And evidence if my count was true as pathologist said when it tripled. Did you know some antibiotcs cause muations of B.b. (lyme spirochete) that's why I'm taking a rest from abx and went to Mexico. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>The Truth Hurts
The truth has been discussed here for awhile now and I am glad for the information and discussion. At the same time, I think the posts are becoming less informative as they go on. And although the spirit needs healing, I am more interested in learning here about alternative treatments for my lyme disease. Hope you don't mind my honesty about the truth. Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>hiv
Dear James, I began this alternative health journey when I was diagnosed with lyme disease. I got a lot of fascinating information from Dr. Hulda Clark's book The Cure for All Diseases. She also wrote The Cure for All Cancers, which I haven't read. I am very interested in Beck's 4 point protocol for cancer (and other diseases). I am going to try to cure my lyme with it. The protocol is as follows: 1. Blood electrification 2. Colloidal silver 3. Magnetic pulser 4. Ozonated water Here are two sites that have more detail (they may not be the best sources, but they will send you in the right direction): http://www.mrbean.net.au/~wlast/cancerremissions.htm http://www.toolsforhealing.com/Health/Beck/Beck_Info.htm One of our list members survived cancer. He is very inspirational. Here is his site (worth taking a look at!). He goes into the most important points in healing among many other things: http://www.betterwayhealth.com/cancer-survivor.asp I just recently read an endorsement of Carnivora, which is made from Venus Fly Trap: http://www.alphazee.com/v/venus.html Willard Water site: http://www.dr-willardswater.com/sixty.html Cayenne Pepper (opens vessels to get treatments to the deep tissues) http://home.online.no/~dusan/books/herbal_cayenne1.html Bragg's live foods: http://www.bragg.com/lfpset.html Cancer cures (which work for other illnesses, too): http://www.worldwithoutcancer.com/faq.html http://www.retired-americans.com/cancer-1.html Colostrum and Transfer Factor http://www.supercolostrum.com/colostrum/Information/information2.htm Hopefully others on the list will have more information. This is just a list of some of the sites I've come across and the variety of remedies/treatments available. I am not a doctor and am very new at this, so don't use any of this information as advice. Just use it to educate yourself and then keep researching. Best wishes. Let us know what treatments you choose and how well they work for you! With love, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Beck and other machines
What do you scientist types think about the sachets? Thanks, Katie - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 10:29 PM Subject: Re: CS>Beck and other machines > In a message dated 8/7/00 2:10:35 PM Central Daylight Time, n...@bestweb.net > writes: > > << If the machines are too expensive for you, you may want to consider buying > gallons of alkaline Willard Water (800-437-2733 >> > > > Or, you may want to consider purchasing Coral Calcium which are little > sachets you put in your water and it makes your water alkaline. I have a > friend who works with people who are terminally ill and with cancer for > several years. She says the "cure" for cancer is to get the body into > alkaline condition...whey the body is alkaline, cancer cannot live. This > fact was proven in scientific studies in the 30's by medical doctors and was > quickly put away out of sight because the pharmaceutical companies were > making a ton of money on people being sick. I have lots more info- if anyone > is interested, e-mail me. > > > Marlene > <")))>< > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>Beck machines
Terry, thanks for the update. Your experience is very helpful to hear. With love, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Carnivora fights lyme
Here's the site where I found the following article. It mentions that this product is effective against lyme. http://www.cancer2000.com/carnivora.html Carnivora® Capsules Newly Arrived in USA Having therapies from around the world at his disposal and following the 1985 surgical excision of his colon´s malignant ployps, President Ronald Reagan sent to Germany for an herbal extract to take as a preventative against potential metastases. Thereafter, he drank 30 drops of this extract, Carnivora®, in a glass of purified water or herb tea four times a day. According to records kept by the extract´s manufacturer, Carnivora-Forschungs GmbH, the President continued to buy these drops until the onset of Alzheimer´s disease. Now it´s suspected, but not confirmed, that Nancy Reagan uses Carnivora® for avoiding any recurrance of her breast cancer. Readers of my articles most likely are aware that Carnivora®, discovered and developed by Helmut G. Keller, MD, oncological investigator at Klinik Winnerhof in Bad Wiessee, Germany (see the issue´s "Medical Journalist Report"), is comprised of the pressed juices of Dionaea Muscipula, a concentrated extract of the Venus-flytrap plant. The manufactured and purified product provides a standardized phyto-pharmaceutical agent ( a nutraceutical) supplied as drops for oral and inhalation ingestion and as Carnivorain injections for intravenous and subcutaneous administration. I´m happy to announce that Carnivora® capsules have just now arrived in the USA for distribution as a food supplement. Under the managing directorship of Mr. Detlef Feiste, these Carnivora® capsules are furnished by the newly established company, Carnivora Research, Inc. USA, a registered office of Carnivora-Forschungs GmbH of Germany. The Carnivora® Research, Inc. USA is located at 544 College Avenue, Santa Rosa, California 95401: telephone 707-568-7480; teleFAX: 707-568-7468; e-mail: drkel...@carnivora.com; internet: www.carnivora.com For information call 1-800-404-4428. Dr. med. Helmut Keller has organized an onsite internship training program which teaches the nontoxic approach to cancer therapy. An information packet is available from this same Carnivora Research, Inc. USA. You may contact Mr. Feiste to acquire the packet by priority mail. Even as a substance used merely for supplemental nutrition, Carnivora® has rather specific therapeutic applications. According to studies and published reports coming from Dr. med. Keller, Carnivora® is the original immune system enhancer. It blocks certain malignant tumor protein-kinases and affords antimicrobial activity against most viruses, bacteria, and the trypanosomatid protozoa (leishmanias), and all kinds of human pathogenic microorganisms such as Borrelia burgdorferi (Lyme disease), Helicobacter pylori (gastric ulcers and gastric cancers), Plasmodium falciparum (malaria), Staphylococcus, etc. Also Carnivora® offers cardiotonic action, hypolipidemic and antisclerotic effects, anticoagulant ability, and anaphylaxis inhibition. It has been used successfully for the treatment of chronic diseases including most forms of cancer, neurodermatitis, ulcerative Colitis, Crohn´s disease, multiple sclerosis, all types of herpes infections, primary chronic polyarthritis, and almost any immune deficiency state. It is highly effective for the total elimination of the human immunovirus (HIV) in vivo from human blood and may be considered an effective treatment for AIDS. As the "gold standard" for treating viral infections, competition is lacking for any of the antiviral effects of Carnivora®. Its dried juice attacks the actual viral organism, kills it, digests its toxins, and leaves behind dead viruses for debridement from the patient´s bloodstream by phagocytosis. This Venus-flytrap extract works superbly to dissipate HIV. No other phytopharmacon or additional types of pharmaceuticals considered useful in the treatment of AIDS does exactly what Carnivora® accomplishes - certainly not any of the voluminously prescribed AIDS drugs such as Zidovudine® (AZT), Foscarnet®, Gancyclovir® or Didanosine® (DDI). With no adverse side effects and at a fraction of the cost, the Carnivora® capsules seem more effective than the drugs. Thus, finally in the United States we have Carnivora® immune enhancer capsules, a natural remedy from Germany, developed by cancer treatment pioneer, Dr. Helmut Keller. It´s the original dried, pressed juice of Venus-flytrap which promotes phagocytosis, blocks specific tumor protein-kinases, contains antimitotic amino acids, enhances antibiotic activity, and generally provides a broad-spectrum antimicrobial action. My intuition tells me that Carnivora® capsules offers a better means of coping with life´s diseases. I am not affiliated with Helmut G. Keller, MD, or the Carnivora® Immune Enhancer in any way. I receive no compensation for presenting this message except for the reward of knowing that readers will benefit from having the information. Morton
Re: CS>Spider bites
Hi Bob and all, Your spider story is amazing. Glad the remedy worked!! What do you (and the rest of you) make of this. I wrote to a woman on a lyme support list and suggested CS. She replied that CS can sometimes stimulate the growth of bacteria. Here's an excerpt of her note to me. What do you think? With love, Katie Here's what the woman wrote: I learned of a Texas pathologist Ph.D. with high powered microscope, and his correlation of M.S wih a spirochete "like" organism and patients with the bacteria in certain quantity above 400 always had M.S. symptoms. There is absolutley proof the NMSS is covering up the real cause of M.S. and NCS of cancer Some are truly ignorant and others "damn greedy lyers" My. M.S. bacteria (1997)was first 387. I made. C.S. water and in 9 months it (bacteria) TRIPLED. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Insurance
This is a fascinating idea for those of use how use alternative medicine, which isn't covered by our insurance plan: http://www.forbiddenmedicine.com/main/InsuranceSalesLetter.htm Here's the text: INSURANCE For E.M.I. members Most health insurance policies do not cover alternative treatments. If this also applies to your own policy, you may be interested in a unique plan that E.M.I. may negotiate with your health insurance provider. In a nutshell, we propose an arrangement where the insurance company "rewards" you for achieving certain improvements in your health condition, using treatments not covered by your insurance policy. Having achieved such improvements, you will be 'rewarded' with a prearranged sum. This arrangement does not affect in any way your original insurance policy, which remains completely valid and in force. The insurance company would profit by the plan: without any risk, it may avoid paying for much higher medical expenses. You, the patient, would profit because you regain your health, and receive a financial compensation, without endangering your basic insurance policy. For full details, please read the INSURANCE report. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>A silver product..
I'd like to hear opinions on this! (FYI for the person on the list who has a friend with leukemia, the article mentions leukemia at the end) Thanks, Katie Also, here's the site this info. comes from: http://www.forbiddenmedicine.com/main/Forbidden/InfectReport.htm Aqua Argentica (AA) has been developed for clinical use, but it is also available for the public. It is the only colloidal silver in North America that has been tested in 27 research and university laboratories, including such research centers as Johns Hopkins, New York University, Chicago Northwestern, etc. The test reports from these microbiology and molecular biology laboratories read like research papers on a major breakthrough medicine. Copies of the reports are available at request from the manufacturer. AA has been tested against a large variety of multidrug resistant clinical isolate bacterial strains with 100% success. On the basis of these tests, experts regard this compound as a more broad-range universal antibacterial substance than any other antibiotic on the market. While it has shown total in vitro efficacy against the bacteria that cause nosocomial (hospital acquired) infections, no hospital is willing to try it, not even with patients who do not respond to any antibiotic, as it is against regulations to use anything that is not an approved drug. AA is the product of a Canadian firm. By legal definition, it is a colloidal silver, but the company developed a technology that alters the molecular structure of the water. We were told that this is the reason why this product shows efficacy in areas where no other colloidal silver does. While no data base on formal clinical trials has been developed, the anecdotal evidence of its efficacy is huge. The product is legally sold in the United States as a mineral supplement with no medical claims. AA is not an antiviral substance, but it affects infected and diseased cells. This has been established in tests by Southern Research Institute, and by 12 molecular laboratories of university research centers. (Copies of the research papers available at request.) AA proved cytotoxic to all cancer cell lines that were exposed to it, as well as to virally infected cells. This doesn't mean that AA is an anti-cancer, or antiviral medication, but it may be a powerful adjunctive in a comprehensive cancer or antiviral protocol. This is an inexpensive and completely non-toxic substance. If a leukemia patient, or someone with a chronic infection decides to take it, we would be glad to post their comments about the results on this web site. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>MSM????????
MSM Monosyllabic minerals? (Couldn't resist :o) I have no idea, but I'm sure someone else does! While I'm on line I'll mention that I am "herxing." The back of my neck aches and my head hurts. What might this mean? I guess it's a good thing. I want to rest, but my 7yo wants to play space turtles from Uranus. I'm trying not to laugh. We have sunny weather here--just beautiful. Love, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Questions
Thelma, I am not a doctor, but the hives, etc., imply liver toxicity to me. Maybe a liver and kidney cleanse are in order. I was told to do the cleanses in order of parasites, kidney, then bowel and liver. I have a liver cleanse I can send you if you want. I have not tried it myself yet. Also, after takin anti-parasitic herbs (wormwood, cloves, and black walnut hull) and zapping, my blood sugar is the lowest it's been in years. Best wishes, Katie kj...@erols.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>distilled water-cs-have to be made with?
Christy, You know the saying, "There are no dumb questions." Use distilled water. Purity is important. Love, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>interupted protocal
Hi PJ, Okay, I'm going to try the green juice. I can't tell you how helpful it is to have support from you and others. So many people talk about the negative side of the Internet, but I am overwhelmed by the generosity and compassion. My husband has agreed to zap and do a parasite cleanse, which is great. But I can't zap my 7yo can I? The literature I got with my zapper said not to. With love and appreciation, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>interupted protocal
Thanks, pj! What types of green leaves would you use? I seem to recall a warning about too much spinach Thanks for your words of encouragement! I sure do need them!! Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Beck zapper/weight loss
Linda, I lost sugar cravings and have the lowest blood sugar I've had in years after using a zapper and taking herbs for parasites. Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>For Lymies
I'm passing along this article for those of us who have Lyme Disease. With love, Katie Subject: From "Penicillin to "Mild Silver Protein"By Dr. Willy Burgdorfer, Ph.D. >From "Penicillin to "Mild Silver Protein" An Answer to Lyme Disease "Without Antibiotics" By Dr. Willy Burgdorfer, Ph.D. Rocky Mountain Laboratories, Division of N.I.H. In 1949, Dr. Sven Hellerström from the Dermatalogical Clinic of Karolinska Institute in Stockholm, Sweden presented a paper "Erythema chronicum migrans Afzelius with meningitis" at the 43rd Annual Meeting of the Southern Medical Association in Cincinnati, Ohio. In presenting his case, he provided convincing evidence that both erythema and subsequent meningocerebrospinal symptoms may develop following a tick bite. He also reported on the successful treatment of his patient with penicillin, a drug shown previously by his colleague Dr. Hollström to be effective in the treatment of Erythema chronicum migrans (ECM). In the United States, ECM was first reported in 1970 on a physician bitten by a tick while grouse hunting in northeastern Wisconsin. The attending physician, Dr. Rudolf Scrimenti, recognized the similarity of the patient's skin reaction to the lesions of European ECM and promptly and successfully treated the patient with penicillin. The treatment of three additional patients with penicillin and of one with erythromycin resulted in complete resolution of symptoms within 48 to 72 hours. Considered unrelated to ECM were skin lesions in 13 of 51 residents in the eastern Connecticut towns of Lyme, Old Lyme, and East Haddam where, since 1972, clusters of inhabitants had been suffering of an illness characterized by recurrent attacks of asymmetric swelling and pain in large joints, especially the knee. Since such arthritic conditions were not known to be associated with ECM in Europe, the illness was thought to be a new clinical entity and was named Lyme arthritis, later changed to Lyme disease once it was realized thatarthritis was only one of several clinical manifestations of this disease. The search for effective antibiotics in the treatment of Lyme disease began in 1982 with my discovery of a spirochete now known as Borrelia burgdorferi as the causative agent of Lyme disease and of ECM and related disorders (acrodermatitis chronica atrophicans, lymphadenosis benigna cutis) in Europe. The antibiotics found effective include tetracyclines (doxycycline, minocycline), penicillins (penicillin G, amoxycillin), cephalosporins (cefataxim, ceftriaxone), and erythromycin. Application of these drugs depends on the time the disease is being diagnosed. Early Lyme disease is treated orally whereas late Lyme disease requires parenteral or a combination of parenteral and oral applications. Treatment failures have been reported for each of these drugs particularly for the tetracyclines that are only temporarily effective unless they are applied over long periods of time, i.e. months even years. Booklet Page #13 Controversy exists over the length of treatment using Mild Silver Protein (MSP). Some investigators consider 21 to 30 days sufficient for the elimination of the spirochetes, while others believe that patients must be on therapy until they are completely free of symptoms.* The diagnosis of Lyme disease is a clinical one and is based on the development and recognition of the skin lesion (erythema migrans) a few days, weeks, or even months, after the bite of an infected tick. Unfortunately in up to 40% of the patients, the skin lesion does not develop, is not recognized, or is overlooked. Thus, without treatment, the disease spreads throughout the body and may affect the muscular, skeleton, cardiac and nervous systems. Indeed, Dr. Farber's recent claim having used MSP to successfully cure himself from late stage Lyme disease, comes at a time when thousands of patients suffering of this disease are refused extended antibiotic treatment because their physicians are unable to associate their clinical manifestations with those of Lyme disease. Although never established scientifically, it appears that the Mild Silver Protein silver colloid disables the enzyme(s) used by bacterial, fungal and viral agents for their oxygen metabolism causing them to suffocate upon contact. In vitro studies with Mild Silver Protein and the Lyme disease spirochete, B. burgdorferi, revealed a 100% killing effect within less than five minutes after exposure to the silver preparation.* Return to Table of Contents Booklet Page #14 TRIAL RESULTS OF MILD SILVER PROTEIN IN LYME DISEASE* Preliminary laboratory studies on Borrelia burgdorferi spirochetes revealed that mild silver protein solutions reduce the growth rate of these cells significantly and eventually lead to cell death. It has been pointed out, however, that the spirochetes tested belong to a laboratory ATCC strain which is widely used in cell and tissue cult
Re: CS>interupted protocal
Great idea, Nina!!! Thanks! Katie - Original Message - From: "Nina Silver, Ph.D." To: Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 8:17 AM Subject: Re: CS>interupted protocal > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Katie Jay" > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 1:01 PM > Subject: Re: CS>interupted protocal > > > > What would help me is finding a practitioner who is open minded and who > > doesn't charge so much money!!! > > It's really not a question of following directions. It's more a question > of > > which information is accurate and whom to trust. > > What's the most difficult is that we are BROKE, I have a special needs > son, > > and now I am very sick and barely functioning. My husband is not > > able/willing to help me do the extensive health/treatment research, build > > devices, or step in and help with my son's needs on a consistent basis so > > that I can take care of myself. > > Can anyone on this list recommend a practitioner who might work with me by > > phone? I need a coach... > > Katie Jay, > Sorry to hear about your difficulties. > One thing you might do is telephone various naturopathic schools and ask if > they have clinics for people in need. In massage and hairdressing schools, > for instance, they have "clinic prices" for people who come in and get > massages or haircuts from the students. I don't know if they do this for > holistic medicine institutions, but it's worth asking. Who knows...you might > start a positive trend! > > Glessings. > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>interupted protocal
> If you won't follow directions we can't > help you. No one can. Hi Bob, What would help me is finding a practitioner who is open minded and who doesn't charge so much money!!! I am struggling with self pity right now. It's really not a question of following directions. It's more a question of which information is accurate and whom to trust. If anyone, anywhere had told me interrupting treatment would make my illness harder to treat later, I would not have interrupted treatment. We get incomplete, conflicting, too technical and/or confusing information on these lists, yet I am incredibly grateful for them just the same. What's the most difficult is that we are BROKE, I have a special needs son, and now I am very sick and barely functioning. My husband is not able/willing to help me do the extensive health/treatment research, build devices, or step in and help with my son's needs on a consistent basis so that I can take care of myself. Here I am sick as a dog and I have to homeschool my son this fall because we can't afford a special needs school. (It's $14,000 per year!!!) Can anyone on this list recommend a practitioner who might work with me by phone? I have a very complex set of health issues and even though I have been given tons of information, I seem to have a tough time processing it all and then doing what needs to be done. I need a coach, in a way. I can sit for a whole day almost catatonic knowing I need to do something critical, yet I am unable to do it. I know this is part of my illness. Anyway, thanks for listening. Life is so hard sometimes. With love, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>lyme tx protocol
Hi all, I told a person with Lyme Disease I was going to use Beck's 4-point protocol to get rid of my Lyme. She responded with this message: .Do you have any papers from the peer-reviewed literature on some of these other techniques. I know they exist for colloidal silver and hyperbaric oxygen, but what about magnetic pulser and ozonated water? How, exactly, are these supposed to work to kill the chetes? And what about the issue of l-cyst forms. Do any of these techniques address that, specifically?.. Can someone help me to answer these questions? I would like to know myself and also want to pass the information along. With love, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Zappers
The first thing you have to distinguish is the > difference > between the blood purifier and the clark zapper and consider which one you > have. > then follow the protocols for your design. Alvin, Right now I have the Clark zapper, but I was considering getting a beck device as I embark of his 4-point protocol. I was planning to use that protocol because of my lyme, mycoplasma and candida problems. I don't really know what role my clark zapper should play. Should I switch to only using the beck device, which will take care of the parasites, or should I use beck's device for the anti-lyme, etc., protocol and use clark's for my parasite treatment? What I really long for is an informed practitioner in my area. This group gives me so much help, but I am sick and trying to understand and manage this all by myself. If anyone knows of a great practitioner on the east US coast, let me know. Thanks, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Zappers
If I've already interrupted the zapper treatment for a week or so, does that mean it won't be effective anymore? Thanks, Katie - Original Message - From: "Alex C. Torres" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 1:55 PM Subject: RE: CS>Zappers > The suggestion that to use the zapper UNINTERRUPTED is really CRITICAL, you > must not stop using it for any reason because this treatments develops a > resistance to the use of electricity and frequencies, and no matter what you > do if it gets interrupted the results or effectiveness are minimal if not > zero due to the body get accustomed to this treatment. I compare this effect > as the treatments we gave for tuberculosis. If the patient stops or skips > some doses the treatment becomes non effective due to strains resistant to > the treatment. We find this effect on our patients, no matter which zapper > you use (High or low voltage) if stopped, no results any more. > Alex Torres M.D. > P.S. I know some persons that take medicines for years and never stops > taking them, as the date, we cannot found any negative effects using > electricity on the body, that's the reason to recommend to use it > indefinitely. > > -Original Message- > From: Bob Squires [mailto:rj...@dialnet.net] > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 5:58 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: CS>Zappers > > > > Jeff Madore; > > Jeff , > The problem with the dime is the concentrated surface area . > We supply our Zappers with about 4 1/2 " of 5/8 -7/8 OD copper > tube as hand holds . These are covered with a couple of wraps of wet > paper towels. I just tear one towel in half wrap it around and wet it . > normal treatment time is 7-10 min on and 20 min or so off repeated three > times or more a day, One session in the morning and another in the > evening works fine . I personally think the zapper and the CS machine > used together is the best treatment for disease there is or ever has > been and that more people are cured of serious disease by this method > than all of the others put together . I also think that the prescription > drugs sold over the counter for huge amounts of money constitute the > greatest fraud there ever has been . > Your machine should be putting out from 4 1/2 to 5 dc > volts . this is not representative of what is going on but just a quick > easy check.. Concerning treatment those I know who have been cured of > serious diseases have used the Zapper every day some twice a day and > taken a quart of 5 PPM CS ,at the minimum, every day . Even those who > have just come off of chemo therapy and been told there is no hope have > been totally healed in five to six weeks. These treatments must be used > in continued un broken fashion . After all what else is there that those > who are not wealthy can afford. > > Best wishes for your recovery > > Bob > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>off topic somewhat
How much ozonated water is it safe to drink? With love, Katie - Original Message - From: "Rob Lowe" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 2:35 PM Subject: Re: CS>off topic somewhat > Well said Alvin! > I agree completely. > > PS: Someone said earlier that you need to wear a zapper > to kill the bugs shaken loose by the magnetic pulsar!? > If the bugs aren't already dead by the time the pulsar has > done its thing, then I can see no point in using the pulsar at all. > My understanding is that the pulsar will penetrate the lymph glands, > bone, teeth, tissue & blood and kill all the nasties. > The ozonated water is a beautiful way to get rid of the toxins > produced by the kill off! > Rob > - Original Message - > From: "Alvin Rose" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 6:28 AM > Subject: Re: CS>off topic somewhat > > > > Hi Henry > > the ozonizer will produce oxygenized water which is very > > effective in speeding up the removal of disabled viruses and > > bacteria from the blood..also has proven to curb cancer and other cell > > disease growth as they don't function well in an oxygen environment,,also > > it feels like you've had a couple of martinis which is like a free bonus. > > If you have a serious illness this purchase would be justified. > > and it's "only money!" have a nice day! > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Henry Reed > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Date: Sunday, July 30, 2000 10:14 PM > > Subject: Re: CS>off topic somewhat > > > > > > >Marshall thank you for that input. > > > > > >Marshall Dudley wrote: > > >> > > >> I don't believe this can be answered for your particular case. I > believe > > >> that each of the 4 can possibly cure cancer, and 2 will be successful > > more > > >> often than just one, and 3 will have a higher success rate then 3, and > 4 > > >> will have the highest success rate. > > >> > > >> For any particular case it may take, one, two, three, or all 4 to work. > > I > > >> personally would spare no expense if there was even the slightest > higher > > >> possibility of success. > > >> > > >> You can save money if you make your own. > > >> > > >> Marshall > > >> > > >> Henry Reed wrote: > > >> > > >> > List, can anyone tell me please just how important is the ozonator > > >> > recommended by Bob Beck in his cancer protocol? We have the other > > >> > devices and can maybe get the ozonator too if we have to. But if the > > >> > protocol will work without it, we need to spare the expense. Does > > >> > anyone know for sure? Thanks, pj > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal > > silver. > > >> > > > >> > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message > to: > > >> > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- > silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > >> > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > >> > > > >> > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > >> > Silver-list archive: > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > >> > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > > > >
CS>MSM and CS together?
Ivan, Do you recommend taking MSM when taking CS? Thanks, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>apricot kernals
Hello Marshall, Can you send me the information about where to get organic apricot kernals? Thanks, Katie kj...@erols.com - Original Message - From: "Marshall Dudley" To: Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 9:58 AM Subject: Re: CS>apricot kernals > Thanks. I ordered some from the Bahamas, should be here today. They are > already removed from the hard shell. > > Thanks for the references. > > Marshall > > Ivan Anderson wrote: > > > Marshall, > > > > You might also look at these : > > > > http://www.publishedresearch.com/clinical/MGN3/MGN3.html > > > > http://www.i-care.net/healthresearch.html#cancer > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Marshall Dudley" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, 26 July 2000 04:20 > > Subject: Re: CS>apricot kernals > > > > > Do you have a phone number on these people? Have a friend that was > > just > > > operated on for a brain tumor and it was cancerous. He wants me to > > get > > > him some ASAP, and I don't want to wait for the mail service to > > deliver > > > a check. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Marshall > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
CS>Jaguar Enterprises
Has anyone used Beck devices made by Jaguar Enterprises? Here's a link: http://www.ioa.com/~dragonfly/bbstuff.html I would be very interested in opinions on the black box, because I want to use it as part of Beck's protocol (which includes CS). Thanks, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>OT - Brain Tuner
Dear Bob, Thanks for pointing me to the site. Am I to understand that the only blood electrification device Action Electronics has is a combination blood electrifier and CS maker? I couldn't tell :o) Thanks, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Ions, chelation and Argyria
Thanks, Marshall! Katie - Original Message - From: "Marshall Dudley" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 8:25 AM Subject: Re: CS>Ions, chelation and Argyria > Katie Jay wrote: > > > Hi Ivan, > > I have lyme disease and also need to get my mercury fillings removed. I was > > considering oral chelation during the mercury removal. Would taking CS > > hinder the work of the oral chelation. What if I took vitamin C and clorella > > instead of oral chelation during the time i am detoxifying from the mercury. > > > > Any thoughts would be appreciated. > > > > Katie > > I am taking the ageless ( http://www.yournutrition.com/oral.html ) oral > chelation right now. They have you take the chelation before bed, and in the > morning, you take a mineral pill to replace the essential minerals the chelation > removed. So what I am doing it taking my CS when I take the mineral pill in the > morning now. Most of the CS will likely be gone by bedtime. I can say that the > CS is not stopping the chelation. I fell like cr*p in the morning until I can > get 24 oz or so of filtered water through my system to wash out the heavy metals > that have been released. > > Marshall > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>Ions, chelation and Argyria
Hi Ivan, I have lyme disease and also need to get my mercury fillings removed. I was considering oral chelation during the mercury removal. Would taking CS hinder the work of the oral chelation. What if I took vitamin C and clorella instead of oral chelation during the time i am detoxifying from the mercury. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Katie - Original Message - From: "Ivan Anderson" To: "Silver-List" Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 4:48 AM Subject: CS>Ions, chelation and Argyria > Marshall writes, over three posts : > > "Argyria is caused by the same mechanism that is used when developing > photographs. It is the same thing. If you start with a salt of silver, > and > expose it to light, some of it will reduce to silver metal. Then if you > have > a developer (caffine is a good developer) in an alkaline solution (blood > is > normally alkaline), additional silver will plate out from the compound > onto > the metallic particles, making them grow. That is the photographic > process, > and that is how one gets argyria. > > Now, the process requires silver salts. There are no substitutes. > Colloidal > silver contains no silver salts. Basically silver salts are what are in > unexposed film. Silver colloid is what is in a developed photograph. > If you > put a developed photo into the sun what does it do. It fades, it > doesn't turn > darker. That is because a developed photo has no silver salts to add to > the > silver particles since it is already nothing but reduced silver > particles. > > Thus colloidal silver cannot cause argyria. Theoretically I guess one > could > take CS with sufficient ppm and in sufficient quantity to cause > aggregation, > but one would likely become sick from too much water first, as the > amounts > would be truely phenominal..." > > "...If I recall the silveroz product claims that it is ionic silver, not > colloidal > silver. I questioned a year or so ago whether or not silver oz could > lead to > argyria on this very list, but at that time no one reported such > problems. > > I do not believe the silver oz product is the same as what we consider > colloidal > silver..." > > > "...Does anyone know if chelation acts on CS in your blood? I believe > that chelation > only works on single atoms, but could be wrong. If it worked on > clusters then it > should get rid of argyria, right...?" > > Marshall and all. > > As far as I can ascertain, it is impossible to absorb metals (minerals) > in anything other than ionic form, ie single atomic ions, as opposed to > aggrigates, colloids or groups of metals. > > Colloids and metallic clusters are ionised by the gastric juices so that > they may be complexed by metal transporters across the intestinal wall. > > If this is true, it would tend to make most of the statements above > redundant. > > In the development of Argyria, I believe it is the total silver load > which is important not the source, as the silver, once absorbed, is > likely to be indistinguishable from one source to another. > If silver is found in surface tissue in large amounts, as a result of > the overwhelming of the natural chelating mechanisms, then it will be > complexed by chlorine, sulphur or selenium etc. and may be photo-reduced > to form dark pigments. > > I believe it is wrong to state that silver colloids cannot cause > Argyria, other than to say that the total silver load required is > unlikely to be achieved in the normal course of events. > > There is no reason to think that silver will not be chelated as any > other monovalent ion. Different chelating agents have preferences for > different valencies (divalent, trivalent etc.), and it would be wise, in > my opinion, to forego silver intake during the course of the therapy so > that the therapy can be directed towards to removing toxic minerals, > unhindered. > > Here is a representative abstract regarding mineral absorption : > > "The regulation of mineral absorption in the gastrointestinal tract. > > Proc Nutr Soc 1999 Feb;58(1):147-53 (ISSN: 0029-6651) > > Powell JJ; Jugdaohsingh R; Thompson RP [Find other articles with these > Authors] > Gastrointestinal Laboratory, Rayne Institute, St Thomas' Hospital, > London, UK. jonpo...@ucdavis.edu. > > The absorption of metal ions in the mammalian single-stomached gut is > fortunately highly selective, and both luminal and tissue regulation > occur. Initially, assimilation of metal ions in an available form is > facilitated by the intestinal secretions, chiefly soluble mucus (mucin) > that retards hydrolysis of ions such as Cu, Fe and Zn. Metal ions then > bind and traverse the mucosally-adherent mucus layer with an efficiency > M+ > M2+ > M3+. At the mucosa Fe3+ is probably uniquely reduced to Fe2+, > and all divalent cations (including Fe2+) are transported by a membrane > protein (such as divalent cation transporter 1) into the cell. This > minimizes absorption of toxic trivalent metals (e.g. Al3+). > Intracellular metal-binding
Re: CS>Beck's protocol
Hi all, I made the mistake of reading my emails (and deleting them) from most recent to least recent and did not get the full benefit of the reactions to Marshall's post. In a nut shell, is there a lot of disagreement about M.'s observation regarding the zapper vs. Beck's device (see below)? I get overwhelmed with the technical discussions here sometimes and miss the gist of things. Although I greatly appreciate the technical knowledge available through this list!! You all are awesome. With deep gratitude, Katie > Not according to Beck. But I disagree. I feel they are essentually > equivalent, in fact I personally prefer the zapper. My sister beat lyme using > the zapper for the electrification. > > Marshall > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>OT - Brain Tuner
Terry and list, Can you all recommend the most cost effective way to get a blood electrifier and magnetic pulser? What is a reputable company and what should I expect to pay. I don't want to make them myself. Thanks, Katie - Original Message - From: "Terry Wayne" To: Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 11:30 AM Subject: CS>OT - Brain Tuner > To those interested: > The full run-down on the Brain Tuner (Lousy name, I > know, my wife says it sounds like, "Brain Tumor") can > be found by listening to Bob Beck speaking at this > website: > > www.livingfromvision.com/realaud/bt6.html > > The info, however, is astounding. I have currently > just started using this apparatus, plus the Blood > Electrifier & the Magnetic Pulser (my wife thinks I > will start glowing in the dark; I tell her I will have > an electrifying personality). > I will report later when I know something. > Terry Wayne > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
CS>Brain Tuner?
Can anyone say more about the Brain Tuner? Sounds intriguing. Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Beck's protocol
Does the Clark zapper count for the blood electrification needed as part of Beck's 4-point protocol? Thanks -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Thyroid and hair loss
Is it safe? Are natural steroids dangerous? Katie - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2000 5:24 PM Subject: Re: CS>Thyroid and hair loss > In a message dated 7/21/00 11:13:19 AM Mountain Standard Time, > di...@iitek.net writes: > > > WHAT IS TTL?? > > Thanks!! > > > TTL is Tribulus Terrestris Extract used for promuscle buildup, hair > restoration/growth, arthritis pain relief and sexual performance > improvement. I imagine many health stores carry this herbal > product first popularized by Russian athletes. I get mine from > SCA Int. in Texas, 1-877-864-3142, because of tablet strength > (250 mg) and his guarantee for certain afflictions (claims only > one in a thousand request a refund). > > Frank > > > will stop arthritis pain > > in 3 weeks, grows hair for women, will 'thicken' men's hair, > increasing the number of > > hairs growing from each follicle. A natural steroid made > > from hitchhiker plants > > >> > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>Dosage for active infection
Good idea, Marshall. I'd be very interested to know what it took for others to beat lyme. Katie - Original Message - From: "Marshall Dudley" To: Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 12:20 PM Subject: Re: CS>Dosage for active infection > I have seen from a few ounces to a few quarts. My sister was not able to > get rid of it entirely with just CS using a few ounces a day, she had to use > all 4 parts of the Beck Protocol. Others have reported that they were > successful with CS alone. Maybe theirs was not as advanced, or had not > gotten into good hiding places yet, or maybe they took larger amounts of CS. > > Maybe we should take a poll of those who have had lyme, and beat it, as to > how much they took, for how long, and if they had to use the other 3 parts > of Bob Becks protocol. > > Marshall > > Katie Jay wrote: > > > Ron, > > > > How much CS do you take a day for lyme? And at what PPM? > > > > If I've already asked, forgive me, and answer again :o) > > > > Katie > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
CS>Dosage for active infection
Ron, How much CS do you take a day for lyme? And at what PPM? If I've already asked, forgive me, and answer again :o) Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>wanted - sources on how to have an alkaline body
The white tongue is most likely thrush, a yeast infection. Does she use steroid inhaler for asthma? That can bring on thrush. She may have a systemic yeast infection. Do a search on candida and you'll get plenty of information. Best wishes, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Thyroid and hair loss
Edith, What are the green supplements? Thanks, Katie - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 8:41 AM Subject: Re: CS>Thyroid and hair loss > HI Katie and others, > I have posted my experience before but will do it again for those who have > recently joined the group. > In 1994 I started having minor digestive problems, then I noticed my hair > coming out...not alot but alittle more each day. I visited a doctor and he > gave > me pills to stop it. After 6 weeks on them, it had not sopped but my > digestive > problems became major. I noticed I felt better when I didn't take the pills. > At the dr. office one day he left out of the room and I looked at my chart. > It said it bold letters: alopeciaall I could see was a bald me.(had lost > 1/2 > of my hair by then) > I left him and quit taking the pills. By now my health problems were major. > I felt horrible all the time and missed lots of work. Because I needed a dr. > note > for that, I started seeing a dr. that was very kind and I knew would not > throw me out on my ear. I started juicing and taking lots of green foods > (barley, wheat,etc) and eating mostly raw because that was the only thing > that didn't cause pain. He kept telling me that he had NEVER seen a person > regain all hair growth and I needed to eat meat. (I never did) > After a yr and half of this and many healing crisses, all of my hair grew > back and I quit having the digestive problems. The doc could hardly > believe his eyes. I still follow this diet. Less juice, more raw and still > take > the green suppliments. > Edith > > In a message dated 07/19/2000 7:18:22 PM Central Daylight Time, > kj...@erols.com writes: > > << Henry, > > I have hashimoto's thyroiditis and take synthroid (0.1mg). I would love to > get off the medication. I need to do more research. Even though I'm on the > medication, I'm still losing hair. Any further information you can provide > would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > Katie >> > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>Thyroid and hair loss
Thanks for telling it again, Edith. I just bought a raw uncook book and I am getting ready to take the plunge. I have been so sick, I haven't been to the grocery store in months. My husband has gone maybe twice. I can't figure out why I am not going to the storeit's really strange. I think it's partly that we are so broke right now. My son has special needs and we spend a ton of money on his needs and now I'm sick!!! Anyway, I need to get started on the raw foods. Thanks for the testimonial :o) Love, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>for the eyes?
The safest bet is making your own. It's quite simple. Good luck, Katie - Original Message - From: "Quiksassy" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 7:39 PM Subject: Re: CS>for the eyes? > But how I can be absolutely sure that it is CS? Buy it from a reputable > source? I'm new to this and don't know who they are. Any help on this is > appreciate. > > - Original Message - > From: Robert L. Berger > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 11:36 AM > Subject: Re: CS>for the eyes? > > > > Come on, CS kills bacteria! That is why we make it. > > > > "Ole Bob" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > >
Re: CS>Thyroid and hair loss
Great thought, Marsha! I had forgotten about that. I have be trying to absorb so much information. I read something about zinc deficiency and realized I have almost all the symptoms. But then, I have all the symptoms for a lot of things :o) Thanks! Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Thyroid and hair loss
Thanks, PJ! If I were to switch to Armour, should I be under the care of a health care practitioner of some kind? How do I determine how much to take? Thanks, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Thyroid and hair loss
Henry, I have hashimoto's thyroiditis and take synthroid (0.1mg). I would love to get off the medication. I need to do more research. Even though I'm on the medication, I'm still losing hair. Any further information you can provide would be appreciated. Thanks, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS for Fibromyalgia?
Thanks, Marshall. Very interesting. I do not consume tons of diet soda, but some. I'm ready to stop though. I really prefer water with lemon. I think I will try the hair stuff. I buy expensive shampoo already, it's not a big increase in cost for me. I'll let you know how well it works. Take care, Katie
Re: CS>Cayenne Pepper
Great Marshall. I have been so devastated by hair loss. I am going to check into this. Katie - Original Message - From: "Marshall Dudley" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 8:43 AM Subject: Re: CS>Cayenne Pepper > I just ran across a product that suppose to help hair grow for men that have > male pattern baldness, as well as those that have lost hair to medicine and > chemo. It has cayenne in it to improve circulation. > > http://www.curetage.com/ > > Marshall > > Robert Ratliff wrote: > > > Dr. Christopher has not been with us for several years. Dr. Schultz was a > > student of Christopher's, but does have further training. Cayenne enhances > > blood flow. Most of Dr. Christopher's formulas have some cayenne in them to > > help distribute the other herbs thru the blood system. If alzheimers is > > partially due to reduced oxygen to the brain cayenne could help. > > > > Best Regards, Robert Ratliff > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Ivan Anderson [mailto:i...@win.co.nz] > > Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 5:18 AM > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Subject: Re: CS>Cayenne Pepper > > > > Robert, > > > > I got the same feeling some time ago, I thought it was just me! > > > > As far as I can determine Schulze got all his knowledge of cayenne from > > Dr Christopher, whom he does acknowledge, and whom it seems has recently > > passed away. Dr Christopher used cayenne in many of his remedies, and > > had a great web site which unfortunately seems to have passed away also. > > > > Oh well. > > > > I don't believe the article, the link of which was recently posted, > > claimed that cayenne cured alzheimers etc. (Karen) but causes blood and > > the curative to flood the spot so to speak. > > > > Ivan. > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Robert Ratliff" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, 15 July 2000 16:11 > > Subject: RE: CS>Cayenne Pepper > > > > > Schultz always claims HIS (read make me more money) herbs are SO much > > better > > > than anyone else's. If you want the RIGHT STUFF grow it yourself. I'm > > pretty > > > sure that the benefits of cayenne outweigh the small amounts of > > pesticides > > > that may be in the herb. Schultz claims all foreign herbs have > > pesticides. > > > We live in such a polluted world I'm not sure the amount you could get > > in a > > > 1/2 teaspoon of cayenne would hurt you. He appeals to idealism not > > reality. > > > We all want the best, right? Buy from Schultz. > > > OK, off the soap box. His products are probably good, I just do not > > agree > > > with his marketing hype. I have his uncurables programs tapes where he > > > claims that herbs can't hurt you. HA. He says if the herb is bad your > > mouth > > > or stomach would reject it. NOT SO. > > > > > > Best Regards, Robert Ratliff > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS for Fibromyalgia?
Hi Marshall, I was told my mycoplasma infection was the cause of my "Gulf War Syndrome". Do you have any further information about aspertame being the culprit? Thanks, Katie
CS>Thanks
Hi Marsha, I got your package!! Thanks so much. I have been so sick, I didn't even realize you sent it. Yesterday I finally got up the courage to go through my mail (the pile was a foot high!). I'll get a check out to you in the next day or so--I also ran out of checks. I can't wait to get stated with the cs!!! You are sooo kind. With fondness and appreciation, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS and Fibromyalgia
Hope, What is the CFIDS Buyers' Club? Thanks, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>concerning water
Ivan, I am so new to all of this. In a practical sense, if I were going to stop drinking tap water today and start drinking alkaline/ionized water--how would I go about making/buying it? I don't even know where to begin. I don't really want to purchase water if I don't have to. I have read a lot of conflicting information about whether it matters if one drinks/eats alkaline-forming foods. Do you have any thoughts on that? Thanks, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Water
Terry, I had read that distilled water depleats the body of needed minerals. Is that not true? I am trying to sort out the water issue right now and would be interested in your opinion. Thanks, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V100 #493
Hugh, Are MSM and L-Glutamine water soluable? Thanks, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>GERDS - cayenne may help?
Thanks, Ron! I'll check it out. Katie - Original Message - From: "Ron Hackley" To: Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 5:41 PM Subject: Re: CS>GERDS - cayenne may help? > Hi Katie... > > I started off with a fraction of a teaspoon in an 8 oz glass of OJ and > worked my way up. It's not the most wonderful taste (IMHO) but it is > supposed to be pretty near a magical herb for healing, first aid, and > for helping other herbs to do their work. For a quick overview check > out: > > http://home.online.no/~dusan/books/herbal_cayenne1.html > > but don't buy that book... Sam Biser has a larger book plus 3 video tape > package available for less cost which includes Dr. Shultz explaining how > to use cayenne and a few other herbs for a multitude of problems. To me, > knowing about cayenne pepper is right up there in importance with > knowing about colloidal silver and zappers. > > Go up to Google (www.google.com), type in the word "cayenne" and the > name "Biser" and you'll get a managable list of sites with info on > cayenne (just typing in "cayenne" will give you 92,200 hits, which is a > bit much). > > Ron > = > Katie Jay wrote: > > > > I can't imagine having two teaspoon of pepper in juice. What did it taste > > like? Was it hard to drink? > > > > Katie > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Ron Hackley" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 4:47 PM > > Subject: Re: CS>GERDS - cayenne may help? > > > > > > > > I used to have this problem; would often wake up in the middle of the > > > night with a horrible burning in my throat. Doc suggested raising the > > > head of the bed (which I never got around to; just made sure I had > > > antacids on the night stand). Also, I had to take an antacid after every > > > meal, even snacks, or I had heartburn. This for some years (I lost > > > track). > > > > > > Several months ago (4-5?) I started mixing a couple teaspoons of cayenne > > > pepper into the juice (usually OJ) that I have with breakfast. Now, I > > > haven't even thought about an antacid in so long that I can't remember > > > the last one, nor had any night-time problems. I did not start taking > > > cayenne for this reason and it was a suprise when I realized I was no > > > longer using antacids regularly. No other changes in diet that would > > > account for this. > > > > > > For what it's worth. It might help someone. > > > > > > Ron > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>dosage
Thanks, James. What ppm do you use? katie - Original Message - From: "James Allison" To: Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 10:21 AM Subject: Re: CS>dosage > I tend to only use CS on a as needed basis lately, and when I need it, for > simple stuff like a cold or flu, I do about an ounce every two or three > hours for a day or two. For heavy duty stuff like food poisoning, I take 8 > ounces every three hours. If something more dangerous occurred, like a > biological attack, I'm pretty sure I would take 8 ounces an hour. Luckily I > have never had to take the 8oz an hour, and hopefully never will, but you > never know. > > Yours in health, > James Allison > > - > Allisons Apothecary - Your On-Line Apothecary > Visit Us Soon - http://allisonsapothecary.com > Home of the $39.95 Colloidal Silver Generator > And Wonderful Prices On Quality Products Like > MSM, Ionic Mineral Waters and Apricot Kernels > --------- > > > - Original Message - > From: Katie Jay > To: > Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 12:33 PM > Subject: CS>dosage > > > > Hi all, > > > > I am going to start CS in a few days. I have Lyme and mycoplasma. How much > > CS should I take for active infections such as these? What quantity of > what > > ppm? Does a person's weight factor in? A few swallows a day, as some > > recommend, is not enough specificity for me :o) > > > > Thanks, > > Katie > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > >
