CSMold experiment - Chuck
Hey Chuck - You wrote: I don't think you're finished with your experiment yet. What if you sprayed the bread first and then tried to infect it with mold? I've sprayed fruit that usually develops mold in a few days (peaches, apples, oranges) and they last until I get to use them. Gotta be the same kinda mold you're working with. Chuck That was my second experiment. On the forst one, I tried to kill already grown mold - which is why Wong thinks I am a homicidal maniac! But on this second try I inundated the bread in silver first, trying to see if I could prevent it from growing mold. I did one with storebought cs, one with homemade, and a control with no cs. Lo and behold - the two with cs grew beautiful, thick black hairy mold -- while the non cs control only grew a lttle bit of light fluffy white mold. My guess is that the cs killed off something - mold or bacteria - that competes with the black mold for food - thereby allowing it to flourish. Who knows? Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSFailure of mold experiments
Okay guys, now I really need help. All my mold experiments have failed - but I find it hard to believe that it's my homemade cs because they failed with the storebought too. Last time I tried putting cs on mold grown on bread -- I saw no effect. This time I put bread and sugar and water in three seperate containers. To one I added storebought CS, to another my homemade, and the third was a control. Well, all three grew mold - but the two with CS grew much more mold and the mold on them was dark brown and very thick, while the mold on the control was white and lighter. Help!! What am I doing wrong? Obviously the CS is having some effect, but it sure isn't killing the mold. Somebody, I think it was Wong, said that when he put the cs on mold it worked, but only on the spots where he put it. What did working look like? Any feedback at all would be appreciated because I really want to figure out a home test to see how effective my CS is. Thanks!!! Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSColonics
Hi Sharon, welcome back. My doctor had also reccommended colonics for my candida - I haven't gotten around to doing them yet - but he said that the best were ones which had some acidophilus in them to help them reseed. If you want to know more details you can email me privately. Take care, katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSKass/beneficial bugs
Hi Kass - the good critters that I am taking are called Optiflora and are enteric coated and supposedly get to the gut much better than most. They have to be ordered through the Shaklee company and you have to be sponsored. You can email Susan at ch...@bestweb.net and she can sponsor you and tell you how to do it. I'm not sure yet if they are working for me, but I do have some die off signs and I'm not taking any yeast killers, so they may be. Let me know if they work for you. Take care, Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CStyndall beam width/Bob?
Hi Bob, could you elaborate on tyndall beam width as a way to estimate ppm and particle size? It's true that we never talk about beam width, and I noticed that some of my samples had much wider and some narrower and it doesn't always correlate with brightness of the beam. What does it mean? Thanks, Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSKass/wateroz silver vs cs
Dear Kass, thanks so much for the info on your battle with candida. At Sparrows suggestion I just got the water-oz info and found it very intereesting and intriguing. I'd actually love to hear what other people on the list think of the idea of water-soluble minerals made by a proprietary method which enables the minerals to crystalize when dehydrated, thus proving that they are not colloidal but dissolved. I don't understand enough about it to know if it can be true, but it is a vey intriguing idea - and I am glad to hear that the silver is working for you and seems to be helping sparrow. Sparrow, if you read this, how are you doing? So I am considering using the wateroz silver and their copper as well -- but first I want to try one other thing. I'm curious as to whether I am actually managing to kill off the yeasties fairly well, but have been also coninuing to kill the beneficial flora and never give them a chance to replenish themselves by discontinuing the yeast/bacteria/fungus killers. So I think what I want to try right now is doing just replenishment therapy for a month or two and see how that does. I'm using soil based organisms and an acidophilus supplement called optiflora which is enterically coated so that the good guys will reach my intestines intact. I actually feel like I am having some die off after two days on this regime (sort of spacey) but of course it is so hard to tell symptoms of candida growth from die off!! But if this doesn't work I will probably try water-oz, and your testimony makes me lean even more toward it. And I want to thank you for all your posts to the list- you have so much interesting information that I have been copying them and saving them for future need!! Thanks again, warm wishes, Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSNo Subject
Hi Mike, thank you so much for your kind words of encouragement!! I think I'm geting the hang of making the cs - at least as far as my setup will allow, but now my frustration is testing it to see if it works. So far all my experiments on mold grown on bread have failed - both with my cs and with storebought - so I don't think I'm doing them right. I'm currently trying a new tack. Instead of testing on pre-grown mold, I've made three seperate samples of bread with water and sugar - one as a control, and one with my cs in it and one with storebought. I'll let you know what I grow!! Thanks again for your very helpful and complete answers to my questions! Take care, Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSQuestions about making Cs
Hi everyone, I've been following the increasingly technical discussions of the parameters for making CS with increasing awe at the the minds of those of you who can figure out this stuff -- and I hope eventually someone will summarize it all for those of us who are technologically handicapped. But meanwhile I'm back to my quest to make the best CS I can with the generator I already have, which is the Bob Beck Silver Pulser, and I want to summarize what I think I know? and see if I got it or am way off base. I assume that because my generator does not limit it's power it is unlikely that I can make high ppm cs without making larger particles. It seems to me that it is agreed that larger amounts of lower ppm cs will have the same effect as small amounts of higher ppm cs (although they might not be as easy to use for a sinus infection because of having to get more up there). And it seems to me that smaller particle size probably means more effective - unless you are going after larger bugs - so I'd rather try to make smaller particle size at a lower ppm if necessary. Am I accurate in assuming that if the cs I make is gold it will have larger particles than if it is clear? So If I want smaller particles I should run the generator for less time and get a clear sol. The clear sol has weaker tyndall - does that mean it probably has a lower ppm? I do know that I need to experiment with different waters and that if I find a good one then I may be able to get stronger tyndall but still have it be clear - correct? Also, I think I am going to quit heating the water because it seems to hurry the process and end up with it gold colored quicker - which means bigger particles? And lastly, if I bend the silver wires so that they are further apart it seems to take much longer for the tyndall to appear - is this because it is much weaker for longer or is it because they are smaller particles? And what about seeding the batch with old batches of cs? That also seems to speed up the process - but is it likely to create larger particles? Thanks in advance for the info - Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSBrooks/thanks
Hi Brooks, Thanks for your post -- the information that all your volunteers were able to easily regain balance of beneficial flora once the problem was gone is very interesting. Perhaps there is still something preventing the acidophilus from being able to settle in. I'm getting retested soon, so we'll see. Thanks again. Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSSusan - source for info on CS
Hi Susan, don't know if you still want a source for info on cs - or if anyone else already posted this - but if not there is a good compilation of articles on it under articles on the candida forum. www.healthyawareness.com/candida. Good luck, Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSOff Topic/Vilik
Hi Vilik --- Your adventures with alkalinity made me so jealous that I wanted to ask you to sign me up for the alkaline list when it starts. Especially if it ends up allowing me to enjoy a margarita along with my mexican food! Humor aside, I hope you continue to feel better. take care, katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSVikki's tinkering
Hey Vikki, I, for one, am very impressed by your tinkering and hope you continue to do it because I think that the more we figure out the specifics of producing CS in a reliable manner the better. And I certainly can't figure it out. But what if it turns out that larger particles are better for some things, and smaller for others - then your work will be very useful. And my experience was that all cs was not the same . My homemade cs did not clear up my sinus infection, while the storebought did. I don't know whether it was because it had smaller particles or a much higher ppm and I therefore used much more. (by the way, for the friend you are dosing, everything I've read indicates that it doesn't matter how diluted your cs is - just how much you use - so your friend should be able to dilute it in as much juice as he/she wants to hide the taste as long as he/she sticks to the same doseage.Only it depends on where you were trying to get it to - for sinuses it works so well to hold it on your tongue and let it absorb into the local blood stream, but that's harder to do with a low ppm) Anyhow, just wanted to say thanks for tinkering. Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSmold/cs test
Thanks to everyone who answered me about my mold test. I guess I realized that, as Nancy said, I don't really know what it would look like if the cs killed the mold - and that I was sort of expecting it to disappear. And I didn't put enough for it to turn pink, like Taylor's did. Now, if I'd had Wong's response - that the mold died wherever the cs touched it - then I would have been happy - since I expected it to need contact for a while in order to kill it. Wong - I think yours was working if it killed it on direct contact. So, now I'm trying a new experiment instead -- I drew lines of cs on a piece of bread and put it in with the mold. So we'll see if it gets moldy in stripes! Anyhow, thanks everyone and I'll report back. Take care, Katarina Ps. James Allison - I think Sam answerd your question? anyhow, it was my assumption that if the cs kills fungus it should kill mold if it was working. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSThank you for cat info
Thank you guys all so much for the great cat info -- it'll all be a big help next time my cat gets in a fight -- as long as I catch it in time! It's amazing how much this little week of vet visits has cost -- so I'm really glad for the info. And, Heather, that roll em up in a towel saved me a lot of scratches while irrigating her -- so thanks again. Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSBrooks Bradley/CS experiments
Hi Brooks, Thanks so much for your post on the CS experiments and humans. Also the info about water is fascinating and very important. As a candida sufferer (ugh) who is cionsidering using CS to treat it, I'm obviously very interested in issues of how cs affects friendly flora. I have found it very difficult to replace friendly flora after the antibiotics that gave me - and the antifungals, mostly natural, which I have used to treat it. Despite long term consumption of hight quality acidophilus, I still test as having zero acidophilus in my stool. I'm trying a new enteric coated acidophilus now and we'll see if it works - but you can see why I am interested in the info on cs and friendly flora. It seemed that in your study on dogs the friendly flora was reduced at a relatively lower doseage of cs than in the human studies. Have you done any studies that showed the highest dose's of cs that one could take without affecting the friendly flora? Thanks so much for all your wonderful information. Take care, Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSmold/cs experiments
Hey everyone, Help!! In order to figure out if my cs is working I decided to try the mold test. I grew some nasty long hairy mold on a piece of bread and then dropped a few drops of each of several of my batches of CS on it in different spots -- along with a test spot of the storebought cs which cured my sinus infection. NOTHING HAPPENED?! And not just for my homemede cs - which has good tyndall and is either clear or golden. That mold is sitting up there mocking me right now. But the thing that makes me really suspect this test is that my cat got a terrible abcess over the weekend and a high fever -- I had no idea what to do and vet wasn't open so I dosed her orally and in the eyes and by rubbing a cs/msm mixture on the lump -- and it seemed to bring down her fever and the lump definitely got smaller. And she was in such bad shape that the vet took an ounce of pus out when he drained the abcess - so I don't think it was resolving itself naturally - I think the cs did it. And this was combos of the same cs that is not affecting the mold. Comments? Answers? Is there a better way to test? Thanks, Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSOff Topic/soy/sesame seeds/nutrition questions
Hi Rex, thanks so much for the wonderful information and I intend to make myself a sprouted almond shake tommorow. So you think that soaking the sesame seeds overnight might also be a good idea? How about flax seeds? I'm not sure how tofu and soy milk are made -- aren't they cooked? which would kill both enzymes and enzyme inhibitor? Thanks again for that and the other info on candida Take care, Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSKaren/Marshall/Bitterness
Hi Karen, You wroteKatarina, Would you like to know some facts about how bitterness (towards yourself OR others) destroys health that even cs can't help? Forgiveness is one of the best healers there is. Karen I fully agree with you about the healing power of forgiveness. When I reread my post to Marshall I realized I had written it in full brain fog - as it sounded preachy, which is not what I meant to be, and also sounded as if I think that bitterness is healthy, which I don't. I do think that when first dealing with a loss it's important to allow yourself the full range of your feelings -- including anger and bitterness -- and not feel apologetic or ashamed of them because they are natural and will only pass through if allowed to be felt - otherwise they tend to get stuck or turn inwards. Now, that might not be true for someone who is very enlightened and just feels love and forgiveness from the start, but I think for a lot of us it is a process that we have to go through before we get there. For me it is much easier to forgive others than to forgive myself, so that's why I was so triggered to respond to Marshall's apologizing for his bitterness -- worried that he might turn it on himself if he held it in. So, Marshall, if you read this, that's what I meant and mostly I just meant to send hugs and am still a novice at expressing emotion to people I don't know but am fond of long distance over the internet and didn't know how to do it right. And Karen, certainly if you want to send me information privately, I'm always glad to learn more, but I think we actually agree about forgiveness and love, for ourselves and others as perhaps the most primary tool for healing. Take care, Katarina Ps thanks for giving me the prod to change what I said. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSRe: RE: CS650 Virus
Hey Terry, thanks so much for your note, Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSCopper/question for Sparrow
Hi Sparrow, would you please post some more about your copper/cs treatment for candida and how it is going?? I've been following for a while and am very curious as I know that Simon said he cured his with the British brand of some sort of copper solution and I'm wondering if the wateroz is equally effective. Also would love to hear how you are feeling. Take care, Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSOff Topic/soy/sesame seeds/nutrition questions
Hi Listers, since so many of you are so knowledgeable about nutrition, I wonder if anyone can answer these questions. Someone just told me that unfermented soy is bad for you because it contains tripsen (sp) inhibitors which create incomplete digestion of proteins and negatively affects the bodys use of calcium, zinc and iron and also that it harms your thyroid. She said that supposedly the only healthful kinds of soy are tempeh and miso and soy sauce. This concerns me because I don't eat dairy and thus often eat tofu or use soy milk in things. Any feedback? Another question I had was on the sesame seed issue of oxalates (sp?) in hulled sesame seeds. What are they and in what way are they bad for you? I like the idea of using sesame seeds as a calcium source so I've been making a morning shake with flax seeds, flax oil, hulled sesame seeds, soy yoghurt and fruit. Any ideas on how much sesame seeds is good and whether it would harm them to be roasted and whether hulled or unhulled is good would be helpful. And then, at the recommendtion of someone on the list I read Fit for life about food combining and found out that according to the theories of food combining fruit and protein is bad for you. I've gotten to this place of tremendous frustration because every time I find out one interesting thing, I find something else to contradict or confuse it. So -- I liked the idea of flax seed oil and cottage cheese, but I believe the studies which show that dairy promotes osteoporosis so I don't eat it. So I combine the flax oil with soy yoghurt or tofu and hope it has the same effect. But now maybe soy yoghurt and tofu are bad for you - or maybe they are fermented enough to be okay. And I love making morning shakes, but fit for life says fruit only in the mornings and without anything else. However, trying that for even a few days made my candida very happy and me miserable. So I'd like to stick with the shakes. One thought was to make them with just oranges and banana and sesame and flax but no soy. Does anyone know if seeds are allright to combine with fruit? And I sometimes take MSM -- does anyone know if since Johanna Budwigs flax oil theories have to do with combining flaxoil and protein and sulfur -- would I get enough protein from the flax and sesame and enough sulfur from msm to activate the flax oil? Sorry if this is very off topic, but I think you guys are the best people I know to ask. Thanks again, Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSCopper/question for Sparrow
Sparrow, thanks so much, that was very helpful. I'm sorry about the depression and the herx - no matter that you know you come out better on the other end - it still feels so lousy. Do you think the herx is from the cs/copper mixture or are you taking other stuff as well? Did you get the waterOz from this phone # 1-800-547-2294 or from 1-800-574-1897? And do they have different ppm's or is it just one type of silver and one copper that they sell? I'm definitely going to try your vaginal yeast recipe -- I'm tired of using storebought creams. Hope you feel better soon. Take care, Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSDo we need our parasites?
Hi Listers, I just read the a fascinating article in Science news which I wanted to share with you. The article suggests that many of the diseases that are currently accelerating in the US may be because of our attempts to eradicate bacteria and other organisms in our environment and in our bodies. I have heard this theory before and it makes a lot of sense to me, but this article took it one step further to include studies which showed that we may need our parasites in order to stay healthy. Evidently, baffled by the rise of diseases such as athsma, allergies, automimmune diseases, rheumatiod arthritis and diabetes in the developed nations scientist have begun to investigate the possibility that our immune systems need exposure to a certain amount of bacteria and diseases in order to develop. With the combination of early childhood vaccinations, and our care to remove children from dirty or bacteria laden environments -- their immune systems never get the exercise they need and in later life either don't work well or turn on the body itself. I remember reading an earlier article saying that children who ate dirt when they were little had stronger immune systems than those who didn't. And I believe from watching the children of friends and family that unvaccinated children seem to have helthier immune systems, whether it is because the vaccines themselves are dangerous, or because the children got to experience more normal childhood diseases as exercise I don't know. I wonder what the health comparison would be with children in Japan -- most of whom don't get their vaccinations until they are several years old (I think). Anyhow, this article says it has something to do with stimulating the Th1 lymphocyte system which cannot grow unless it has outside stimuli. They cite a bunch of studies ; One of thm shows that children brought up on farms have less allergies than children brought up in non-farm rural environments or than city kids -- the assumption being because they are exposed to more dirt and bacteria. Another shows that children in large families, as well as those who enter day care early have less allergies -- presumably because they are exposed to more germs. Interestingly - the oldest children in large families were not protected from the allergies - since when they were little there were no other kids around. But the most interesting studies were the ones that postulate that inflammatory bowel disease comes about because modern sanitation has largely wiped out parasites in our guts, leaving our immune system to mistakenly attack the lining of the intestines since it doesn't have anything else to battle. They have actually tested this theory by giving six volunteers the eggs of the whipworm , a helminthic parasite which is about 60 millimeters long. All six volunteers showed substantial improvement in the symptoms of their inflammatory bowel disease. Now, that's a small study -- but even so, it raises some interesting questions about whether it is good for us to even try to eliminate all parasites and bacteria from our systems? Don't get me wrong - I definitely intend to continue to try to kill off as much candida and blastocystus as I can -- but it does make me once again come back to thinking that health is a question of balances -- and we don't yet have any idea yet what those balances really are. So I'm not sure if I would do a maintenance dose of CS, just in case, while I will certainly continue to use it to readjust the balance when it gets out of whack. Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSOff Topic question about die off
Can any of you guys tell me what your die off feels like, especially from candida or from parasites? I've felt for the last ten days like I am on another planet - or living outside my body and watching everything as if it was a movie. And I'm very disoriented if I move too fast, as if I were on a different time scheme than the outside world. Could this be die off? I'm not really foggy - but I can't think straight either -- witness my accidental posting of the AA petition to the list. Is there any wy that it could be the colloidal silver that I used for my sinus infection? I did use a lot of very strong (it said 500ppm silver but I'm sure was much weaker) cs in my mouth and nose and eyes for about three weeks. And my eyes are definitely having a tough time focusing? Help?? thanks so much Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSNo Subject
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CSNo Subject
Hi everyone, If I don't answer back to information you send in answer to my post full of questions it's only because I'm off on vacation at 6A tomorrow and will answer when I get back. But thank you, thank you. Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSsinus infections
Hi Sheila, the products I used were made by Innovative Natural Products and they have them at almost every health food store here in LA. I don't know if I believe that they really had the high ppm they say they do - but they sure worked fast. The nasal spray is called Silver Aloe and I just sprayed it every hour or so for a day - although I have since been told to take a dropperful of the liquid CS and put it in each nostril with your head upside down by your knees so that it will drain into your frontal sinuses. I've started doing that since I'm convinced that a colony of yeasties living in my sinuses and ears is part of why my candida just won't leave completely. I also have been putting a few drops in my eyes in the morning before I pout my lenses in and my eyes have stopped itching. And I'm putting some in my ears as well and they no longer feel like they are oozing from inside. So we'll see what happens -- but I am very impressed. I think if you can't find the one I used, just get a good higher ppm one and if necessary emty out a glass nasal spray bottle, preferably of the pump type - or put the dropperfuls in your nose. I have a friend who just cleared up a six month sinus infection in less than a week just by spraying some 40ppm solution into her nose for a couple of days. Oh yeah, the other thing that worked dramatically for me was to hold the liquid cs on my tongue against the roof of my mouth until I could feel my sinuses clearing. Let me know how it works for you and good luck! Ex chronic sinusitis sufferer - Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSNo Subject
Dear everyone experienced in the making of CS -- HELP!! I have a number of questions about making my own CS. I've been following the particle size/color/water heating controversies and still am not sure what I should be doing. My first batch ofCS did not help with my sinus infection - while the storebought one cleared it up right away - so I must be doing something wrong. I am concerned that my particles are too big to absorb properly.The makers of my machine say that at 20 minutes you should have 3-5ppm sol of .0005 to .015 microns How do I find out the size of the particles - without buying expensive machinery? The solution had Tyndall effect - but can anyone explain how thick or bright the beam should be -- or what variations might tell you something about your solution? Anyhow, I tried making four different batches, using two different distilled waters and doing one each with boiled water that had cooled slightly and the other with room temperature unboiled, and here's what I got. (Oh yeah, I'm using the Beck's silver pulser which is a 27 volt DC machine made by Sota and I used 16 ounces of water and put two tablespoons of my last batch of CS in each as a starter. I ran them all for 25 minutes.) The room temperature solutions were both colorless with a very slight white cloudiness. The next morning they were clear and there was a small ring of white precipitate at the bottom of the glass. Is this a silver salt and therefore an indication that the solution is not pure because the water isn't pure? It happened with both distilled waters. One of them had a brighter Tyndall than the other. Does that mean it is stronger? The solutions which I made with boiled water (allowed to cool so that it wouldn't break the glass - but still steaming) are amber colored and clear. They had no precipitate in the morning, but a lot of sludge on the electrodes when making it and left a dark stain in the bottom of the glass and colored the glass slightly. I can't tell if their Tyndall is slightly weaker or if it is just that they are darker colored. When I boiled the water there was a white residue inside the porcelain tea kettle which I had carefully cleaned with distilled water before use. While making the boiled one I checked Tyndall as it went along and there didn't start to be any tyndall until 20 minutes, then it built up fast. So which are the better solutions and what is the best way to make it? Which one would have the smallest particle size? And how do I figure out how strong it is - Is it Robert who can test it and how do I send it to you? Any help at all on this would be appreciated because I am definitely confused. On the one hand it sounds as if clear is smaller particle size - but on the other hand it sounds as if cloudy and precipitte is exactly what you don't want because of silver salts. And I don't know how to produce clear without precipitate. The original solution which I used which didn't do much was very light amber and clear and was made with boiling - but I didn't have a laser at the time to check for Tyndall. Oh yes, and if I want to make more than 16 ounces at a time do I just double the time I take while I double the amount of water? Or will that imbalance something. anyhow, thank you all again. Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSSilver Safety
Dear Ivan, thanks so much for your response to my concerns about the safety of CS. As I reread it I picture you standing on steel girders high above some city sniffing CS and it somehow makes you seem very qualified to speak about safety! :-) Jokes aside, your answer ws very helpfuland Ithink I finally am understanding that although there is nothing proving the safety of CS, a lot of people seem to have used it without harm for a long time and that the agyria thing is scare tactics because it isn't possible with colloids. I don't know yet whether I will take it on a regular basis as a preventative or supplement because, like Terry, I am always leery of upsetting balances that I don't understand -- but I am absolutely joyful at finally having found a way to stop sinus infections without antibiotics - and I think it will make huge difference in my life in the long run. As you see in my other post, I'm still having problems making my own CS, and wondered where you get your purified water which you sid was made by McGraw Biomed. Do Pharmacies sell it? Anyhow, thanks a lot for your help - and I would love any responses you might have to my previous post and questions about making the CS. Take care, Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSInfo on CS
This is for anyone new to this subject of CS who could use more information on it. Someone has put together an extremely informative digest of information on CS which answered a lot of my questions (and of course, raised new ones!) It can be found at the Candida Forum at www.healthyawareness.com/candida under the articles section. And thanks a million to Taylor, who I think suggested it to me. Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSVitamin D
Hi Edith - the study did say that people were less deficient during summer months and in warmer climates - but they were still deficient. Go figure. Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSNo Subject
Hi Samm, my doctor gave me a book on how ionized water was the key to health and longevity - don't know if it's true or not - but would be very curious to try one that doesn't cost $1,000 or more as most seem to. Would you also let me know if you get it and if it seems to work.? And then maybe get the name of the store or of the ionizer and I can see if I can find one in LA. Thanks so much. Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSCalcium and Vitamin D
Hi Tom, The other thing completely neccessary for the body to utilize any form of calcium is Vitamin D. Studies recently have shown that people consuming enough calcium but not getting enough vitamin D either through diet or photosynthesis have higher amounts of osteoporosis, indicating that they can't use the calcium. Also I read some scary studies recently that showed that most adults in the US are seriously vitamin D deficient, even when taking the USRDA in supplement form. Take care, Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSCandida.
Hi Taylor, I have also been fighting Candida, and have found some pretty effective ways to bring it down - I just seem to be having a hard time getting the last little bit out. I'd love to share information - on or off the list, since it isn't explicitly CS related - so if you want to, feel free to email me privately. There is a doctor here in LA with a really great protocol which would probably go well alongside the CS --- I'd be glad to tell you about it. And I'm very curious about what you know about the use of CS for it. Take care, Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSSinus Infection cured!!!Yayy!
Dear Everyone, this list is so amazing and the amount of information on it so huge that I end up only reading and never seem to get the time to write. But first, a huge thank you to everyone who encouraged me in persisting in using the CS for my sinus infection. Unfortunately, the CS I made myself with my beck's silver pulser was not good enough or strong enough or something because I tried taking it and spraying it in my nose for a couple of days with no success. But then I bought some 200ppm .0001 CS nasal spray from the store, and some 500ppm to hold on my tongue against the roof of my mouth and I could literally feel my sinuses clearing when I held it against the roof of my mouth. Within 48 hrs my quite serious sinus infection was gone. Yay!!! The last time I tried to get rid of a sinus infection I ended up on three months of antibiotics which only made me worse and they wanted to do sinus surgery and eight months later I am still fighting candida and a parasite from the antibiotic effects and here there is a way to get rid of it in 48 hrs with no side effects. I am so so grateful and excited. (told a friend and she cleared hers in a week with 40ppm storebought spray) My only worry is my herb doctor who tells me that CS is toxic and will cause scarring in the brain and kill brain cells, especially when used on the sinuses. He says he had a patient whose brain went south from using a CS nasal spray. So, I understand that there are no studies done on safety because who is going to fund them when CS is so cheap and easy to make on your own - but are there any articles at all that I could find to help refute him? He xeroxed me an article from a book on toxic effects of metals and it said Large doses of colloidal silver administered intravenously to experimental animals produced death due to pulmonary edema and congestion. Hemolysis and resulting bone marrow hyperplasia have been reported. Chronic bronchitis has also been reported to result from medicinal use of colloidal silver (Browning1969; Luckey et al 1975) Has anyone read these articles? Obviously we are not mainlining it in large quantities so I don't know if it even applies. I think I would like to take some on a regular basis so that I can help support my system while fighting off this candida/blastocystis, but I'm still a little worried about safety. And I have to get my setup working, so will have lots of questions but will save them for the next post. This is just a huge thank you. Take care, Katarina P.S. Can anyone suggest a good list or place to go for help with this candada? I've tried so many things and done so much reading and it's still just not working . Also, is there anyone on the list other than Margaret who used Becks silver pulser to make their CS and could help with additional advice? Thanks -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSDigestV99-332
Hi, was anyone else unable to download digest V99-322? Was anyone able to download it who wouldn't mind copying it and sending it on to me? I was hoping it might have answers to some of my questions. Thanks so much. Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSNo Subject
Hi Marshall, thanks for the information. If longer time means bigger particles maybe I should try running mine shorter and see if it is clearer and less cloudy. I'm a bit confused about the conversation about bigger and smaller particles and ppm's and color and time. Isn't what you are saying that above 5ppm you start to get some color? But color doesn't necessarily mean larger particle size, does it? I thought it was cloudiness that means particle size, although I'm not sure I know how to differentiate cloudiness and color since it seems to me that my solution is colored by a faint gold haze - so it's not clear and it is colored. And the one batch I made that went so weird -- it's hard to describe its color - it's a kind of mauve - a mixed gold and purple -- and some of it does seem to be precipitating out. I may just have run it for longer than I thought because I was out of the room when the timer rang. But, Marshall, I'm confused because you seem to have said two contradictory things - although I'm sure it's just that I didn't understand them. In one post you said that the purple meant yellow light being absorbed and that means relly big particles -- and in another you said that the blue has nothing to do with particle size. Maybe it's my bad description - it's not really blue - more mauve. I am very excited because I think it is working now at the higher, storebought ppm - but I really want to figure it out so I can make it myself. I'm pretty sure that what I have is not allergies - I've been fighting sinus infections on and off for a year and it's connected to candida and a parasite and though it may be kicked off by reactions to something in the air, this is the first time since I got the candida levels down that it has turned into a full scale yellow and green mucus and mostly from one nostril - which indicates infection to me. (sorry to be so graphic!) Anyhow, thanks so much for taking the time for all these questions. Take care, katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSNo Subject
Hi Tony, thanks for the advice and next time I will buy from the list -- I ws just desperate to do something right away - and the stuff I got from the store appears to be working. Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSNo Subject
Hi Robert, thank you so much for your help and encouragement. The generosity of people on this list to us newcomers is just great. I'm not sure how much of the information that you might need to get me straightened out is possible for me to give because I am not very good with machinery and just bought a silver pulser unit from Sota on reccomendation from a friend. But I will tell you what it says in the manual and what I did. The pamphlet says that it runs on a 9 volt battery and a proprietary DC-DC converter circuit boosts the 9 volts of the battery to the required 27 volts.The electrodes are mounted in a sort of V so they are 2 inches apart at their widest and about 1 inch at the midway point. They are 7 1/2 inches long and I had them submerged to about 6 inches. they are circular rods and one is thicker than the other. I made it in a glass which holds about 14 ounces of water. I used distilled water and boiled it first but then waited a few minutes until it was a tiny bit cooler so that the glass I poured it into wouldn't crack. It was still steaming. I don't have any kind of meter -- you just turn it on and let it run. I took the electrodes out a couple of times and rubbed them off with an unbleached paper towel, stirred the water with them out, then put them back in. I timed it for 25 minutes. There was some bubbling and mist trailing up from the wires -- and a slight dark spot on the glass where they rested at the bottom - but no flakes of anything in the water. The first time, when I did it without taking the electrodes out and cleaning them - there were some dark flakes. The solution is just the tiniest bit cloudy with a gold tinge. It has a strong beam through it when I use the pointer. Thats all the info I can think of. Thank you for your help. Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSNo Subject
Hi everyone, can anyone give me suggestions of the best place to find info on what support to do for your system when having mercury fillings removed? I had my first set done and then got quite sick with this sinus infection and don't know if they are connected, but want to make sure it doen't happen again. Thanks, Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSNo Subject
Hi everyone. I've been using CS in the nasal sprayer for about four days now for my sinus infection, but have seen no improvement. I'm also taking MSM to try to increase the absorption. How often should I be spraying my nose and how many sprays? Also, I took 25 minutes for this last batch - I guess that means it's about 10 ppm. Should I try letting it go for longer? Thanks, Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSNo Subject
Hi and sorry to be asking all these questions, but I want to make sure I am doing this right. The batch of CS which I made yesterday has turned a sort of deep purply color overnight. Does that mean it is no good? Thanks, Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSNo Subject
Sorry guys, more questions. If I want to make more CS at a time can I just double the amount of water and double the time I let it sit? I'm using th Becks silver Pulser and their instructions are for 16 ounces and 3-6 ppm at 20 minutes. Also - would ther be any reason I couldn't use CS in my morning saline nasal wash to help try to beat this sinus infection? Thanks, Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSNo Subject
Okay, last question for today. I promise. Someone just told me that maybe the CS is not working on my sinus infection because the particles are too big. How would I find that out? I just made a new batch at 25 minutes with the beck's silver pulser and it is almost clear. Maybe the water in the last batch wasn't good. Anyhow, I'm worried about taking it if the particles are too big because of this question about turning blue. The pulser manual says the micron size should be .005 to .015 - is that okay? I think for the moment for my sinuses I will buy some at the store for my sprayer and see if it is more effective. Also maybe try a higher ppm. Any suggestions? And can I make a higher ppm by running my pulser for longer - or does that make the particles bigger. Sorry that I am so ignorant about how this works but I never was any good at science experiments. Thanks, Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
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Thanks so so much to everyone who responded to my post. I've been slow in getting back to you because this sinus infection has really flared up along with a miserable headache which has been slowing me down. So I made my first silver using the Beck's silver pulser. I used distilled water and I ran it for 20 minutes. It came out a very pale goldish color with a few black flecks floating in it - so I filtered it through a unbleached paper towel. Now, Mashall, you suggested 5-12ppm for nasal or topical. How would I know what PPm it is or does it not need to be that precise. James Vernon, you suggested distilled water at room temp with the rods 12 inch apart at 27 volts. I am not sure if the rods would be considered a half inch apart, they are in a sort of y which is about an inch apart at the bottom. Does that matter? I also forgot to stir it. Would that matter? I put some in a pump nasal spray bottle. How often should I use it and how much? I've been doing a couple of sprays in each nostril three or four times a day. And I took about two ounces orally in AM and PM as well. Is that too much - or too little - and is it a good idea to do both orally and nasal? I felt a little better after the first sprays, but now about the same - of course it has only been 24 hrs. So maybe I should take more - but are there any risks from taking more and what would be the maximum dose to fight an infection? I read somewhere about the risk of turning blue from the silver if the particles are too large -- is there a way to know whether the particles would be too large if you are making it yourself. And how long does the silver keep? I imagine I will use it up pretty quickly, but am curious about shelf life. Anyhow, I really appreciate all the information - it has been very usefull. And hi to Joey if you are on. Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
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Hi Vilik, thanks for your post -- and yes, I am very curious about the nature of these fungus/bacteria/protozoa beasties which have chosen us to flourish in. What is mycoplamal infection and how did you find out that you have it? I actually realized that I had tried the soil based organisms for the blastocystis/candida combo before - without much luck - but at that time the candida was so strong that maybe it was just impenetrable. My candida levels are now down fairly low so maybe it will be more effective. I've tried a bunch of things for the blastocystis - none of them have worked except maybe now the herbs that my chinese medicine doctor mixes for me are beginning to work. However, I just read in a very good book called Allergy Relief and Prevention by Jacqueline Krohn, MD that she has a regime that is 90 percent effective with protozoa (including blasto) It is very high doses of Grapefruit Seed extract and Par Quing (which is Artemesia Annua and some other herbs. If this regime doesn't work I will probably try that. My holistic MD suggested that I try a zapper - or Beck's pulser - but I'm waiting on that since the chinese medicine doctor swears that they are dangerous -- and I don't want to try too many things at once. This has all been so confusing and difficult -- every doctor or health care practitioner has a different theory and most of them conflict. At the moment though - my main fear is that this sinus infection will take root and then they'll want to do antibiotics again which is how I wound up with a weakened gut in the first place. Arggh! So I hope the CS works! What have you tried for the blastocystis? Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
