Re: Paypal, was Re: CSInfo Silver wire
Had to jump in here: In Canada my friend had a problem with a damaged ebay delivery to the usa. Ebay, (as Pay Pal) instead of honoring a client with a superb delivery record, they took money DIRECTLY out of his candian bank account. I thought that would be illegal, but it happened. And the package was damaged during delivery so it was their fault. No pay pal for me. Ross - Original Message - From: MaryAnn Helland To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 12:08 PM Subject: Re: Paypal, was Re: CSInfo Silver wire Hi Del. Thanks for your input. I don't intend to give them my bank account information. I have a designated credit card that I have used for Paypal for years. And I have no intention of opening a cash account with them. There must be a way around all of this -- I'm sure there are thousands of people in the same boat, who aren't happy about it! MA -- From: Del d...@altsystem.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, October 19, 2012 11:59:27 AM Subject: Re: Paypal, was Re: CSInfo Silver wire Personally, I will not have any relationship with Paypal, period. In my opinion, they are a bunch of crooks and rip off artists. I have been robbed by them myself, but so have many others. Check out this website: http://www.paypalsucks.com/ If you do business with them, protect yourself!! Don't give them your bank account number. If you give them a credit card number, make sure it has a credit limit you can live with. If you open a cash account with them, keep the balance as small as you can, because it may disappear! Del -Original Message- From: sol Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 11:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Paypal, was Re: CSInfo Silver wire No thanks on the paypal.but many online retailers and even ebay now accept regular credit cards through paypal processing without having to open a paypal account. sol Jane MacRoss wrote: A shame everyone doesn't just do PayPal - it seems so convenient Jane CCSilver does not accept a credit card from outside US (and I am in Canada) They will only accept Money orders etc. That creates a lot of back and forth postal correspondencenot worth the time and hassle. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2741 / Virus Database: 2614/5841 - Release Date: 10/19/12
Re: CSGout flare up
i have had gout for thirty years...fought it with everything i could research...but in the end, the only thing that for sure prevents more attacks is allopurinol. lagoon - Original Message - From: brick...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:23 PM Subject: CSGout flare up I am in the middle of a gout flare up concentrated in my knee. Could not walk or even lift my leg. First flare up in 15 years. I made 3 gallons of apple juice and it was turning hard. I stopped drinking my magnesium/seltzer and drank apple juice. Two days of this and gout flared. ER prescribed Colcrys which really helped. I was controlling gout by taking B6 and magnesium. Hard to believe that a gout flare up was so close. Last flare up was caused by drinking wine on sale when I was winter camping near Los Angeles. Had to drive towing my trailer in LA traffic with using only one leg. I think the latest flare up was not caused by hard cider but neglecting my daily magnesium drink. Brickey If you suspect gout, try to avoid foods with purines, like sardines, shrimp, smoked oysters, etc. That's what brought mine on. Be well, Léna No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2677 / Virus Database: 2591/5822 - Release Date: 10/10/12
Re: CSSerrapeptase
Ok, a lot of great info has come here from Brooks, Thanks Brooks. Ross - Original Message - From: Marshall To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 11:24 AM Subject: Re: CSSerrapeptase I am thrilled it helped you, but to be honest the information on serrapeptase originally came from Brooks. Marshall On 6/25/2011 12:20 PM, Ross Craig wrote: This post induced me to take my blood pressure, something i have been controlling for a dozen years with drugs. When I say control, the one drug plus a diuretic, brought me down from 185/80 and sometimes much worse, to the 135/75 area and my doctor was happy, sort of , with that. A long time ago, here on this list, there were a lot of discussions about serrapeptase, including Trem's difficulties. Marshall had reported a lot of success with it, so I did my own research and started with 10,000 units and then about four months ago raised that to 40,000. I don't know what it's done for my overall health but i do feel great. And I was stunned just now to find my bp 121/63 in one arm and 116/61 in the other. Batteries are good so I can't blame the machine. But I can thank Marshall, again. Thanks. Marshall. Ross - Original Message - From: MaryAnn Helland To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 12:39 PM Subject: Re: CSSerrapeptase I'm sorry that that happened to you Trem. And I hope that you achieve 100% recovery, including hearing. The body is miraculous at healing itself and will do everything in its power to do so. So -- Serrapeptase is available in 20,000 iu's? Can you tell me where you got that/saw that? That's about where I'd like my brother to start. Thanks. MA -- From: Trem t...@silvergen.com It was me. I took it to clean the plaque in my pipes. Dosage was supposed to be 20,000 units daily. Thinking If some is good, more is better i TOOK 300,000 units daily. Only took two weeks and I stroked. I can't tell any difference but my wife swore she could see it when it happened six years ago. A CT scan showed I had lost my right temporal lobe. I feel 99+% OK mentally but my hearing is a bit toasted. On 6/25/2011 7:38 AM, MaryAnn Helland wrote: Someone here on our list has reported that they took Serrapeptase excessively and caused themself to have a stroke. Could I ask that person a question please? Can you tell me how much Serrapeptase you took? I'm asking because my brother is having mini-strokes due to plaque due to Diabetes. I think Serrapeptase would help him, but I can only find 90,000 iu capsules. That's what I take, but I'm worried that may be too high an amount for someone already having stroke issues. Any input will be appreciated. MA No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1513/3724 - Release Date: 06/24/11 -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1513/3725 - Release Date: 06/25/11 -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1513/3729 - Release Date: 06/27/11
Re: CSSerrapeptase
Jim, bringing down my bp has been an effort spanning the last fifteen or more years. it was discovered long ago (i am 68) when i was first diagnosed with gout, and in the emerg for that. the attending dr said normally they would not release anyone with as high a bp as i had, but she did anyway. that's when i started on a long period of taking different and increasing bp drugs. they reduced my bp to the 135/75 area, and that's what i have had for the last several years. after all the discouusions on serrapeptase i sourced mine from Vitamin Research Products. i have the 10 mg or 10,000 unit caps. i thought it would reduce the stroke and heart attack risk by removing plaque from veins and arteries. i have no proof that has occured, but the lowered bp is actual and i will drop the diuretic soon, and then the 4mg of coversyl after that if bp does not rise again. the main reason i believe it is the serrapeptase that has lowered is that i am doing nothing else new. as for dosage, the label says to take one three times a day but i do two at night. Ross - Original Message - From: Jim Holmes To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 11:39 PM Subject: Re: CSSerrapeptase Ross, Will you give more detail on your use of Serrapeptase. Source, form, details of timing and dosage. To what mechanism do you attribute your lowered BP? When and if you choose. Jim On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Judy Harnett benjipi...@gmail.com wrote: I have been following this thread with great interest. I, too, would like to get off my blood pressure meds, but my doctor says no way, that there is nothing out there that will keep my blood pressure down. My question is, when do you stop taking the blood pressure meds after starting Serrapeptase? Can you safely take both together, or does one just stop all blood pressure meds? I read the testimonials on the site that Trem forwarded and was simply amazed at all the things that this has helped or cured. I also have spinal stenosis, which one of the testimonials was about, although not to the points where I am not functional, but I'd sure like to be able to garden again, and not have to sit down after about 15 minutes of being on my feet. I'd rather spend the money I now spend on blood pressure meds on something like this that is virtually harmless if taken with reasonable care. Please tell me more. Many thanx, Judy Harnett benjipi...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Ross Craig To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 12:20 PM Subject: Re: CSSerrapeptase This post induced me to take my blood pressure, something i have been controlling for a dozen years with drugs. When I say control, the one drug plus a diuretic, brought me down from 185/80 and sometimes much worse, to the 135/75 area and my doctor was happy, sort of , with that. A long time ago, here on this list, there were a lot of discussions about serrapeptase, including Trem's difficulties. Marshall had reported a lot of success with it, so I did my own research and started with 10,000 units and then about four months ago raised that to 40,000. I don't know what it's done for my overall health but i do feel great. And I was stunned just now to find my bp 121/63 in one arm and 116/61 in the other. Batteries are good so I can't blame the machine. But I can thank Marshall, again. Thanks. Marshall. Ross -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1513/3725 - Release Date: 06/25/11
Re: CSSerrapeptase
This post induced me to take my blood pressure, something i have been controlling for a dozen years with drugs. When I say control, the one drug plus a diuretic, brought me down from 185/80 and sometimes much worse, to the 135/75 area and my doctor was happy, sort of , with that. A long time ago, here on this list, there were a lot of discussions about serrapeptase, including Trem's difficulties. Marshall had reported a lot of success with it, so I did my own research and started with 10,000 units and then about four months ago raised that to 40,000. I don't know what it's done for my overall health but i do feel great. And I was stunned just now to find my bp 121/63 in one arm and 116/61 in the other. Batteries are good so I can't blame the machine. But I can thank Marshall, again. Thanks. Marshall. Ross - Original Message - From: MaryAnn Helland To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 12:39 PM Subject: Re: CSSerrapeptase I'm sorry that that happened to you Trem. And I hope that you achieve 100% recovery, including hearing. The body is miraculous at healing itself and will do everything in its power to do so. So -- Serrapeptase is available in 20,000 iu's? Can you tell me where you got that/saw that? That's about where I'd like my brother to start. Thanks. MA -- From: Trem t...@silvergen.com It was me. I took it to clean the plaque in my pipes. Dosage was supposed to be 20,000 units daily. Thinking If some is good, more is better i TOOK 300,000 units daily. Only took two weeks and I stroked. I can't tell any difference but my wife swore she could see it when it happened six years ago. A CT scan showed I had lost my right temporal lobe. I feel 99+% OK mentally but my hearing is a bit toasted. On 6/25/2011 7:38 AM, MaryAnn Helland wrote: Someone here on our list has reported that they took Serrapeptase excessively and caused themself to have a stroke. Could I ask that person a question please? Can you tell me how much Serrapeptase you took? I'm asking because my brother is having mini-strokes due to plaque due to Diabetes. I think Serrapeptase would help him, but I can only find 90,000 iu capsules. That's what I take, but I'm worried that may be too high an amount for someone already having stroke issues. Any input will be appreciated. MA No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1513/3724 - Release Date: 06/24/11 -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1513/3725 - Release Date: 06/25/11
Re: CS[List Owner] ...for John...
Mike for POTUS, or at least sec. of state !!! - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 7:37 PM Subject: Re: CS[List Owner] ...for John... Hey John, You write: There are some folks on the list that have admirable knowledge and those folks I respect and read carefully for their ideas are good and helpful. Indeed, we agree. That's not everyone on the list. There are some folks who clamor out opinions which I think can be dangerous, especially to new-comers. We disagree on how dangerous, one, and for another, how to go about talking to newcomers, and who may do so on my list. I'll address those points more below. I don't find any of the opinions silly as you've mentioned. Well, given the lack of any feedback from you indicating you've reconsidered any of your assumptions or prior beliefs as a result of the discussion, it's hard to draw any other conclusion. I'm sorry if I've misinterpreted your reaction. But I've sent and forwarded some e-mails that have creditable info that have been mocked nastily by some in your group - Yep, I'm sorry about that. Ken, for instance, isn't an easy person to micro-manage. He expressed some strong opinions about Barwick. He's entitled to his opinions and I'm comfortable with people expressing themselves, if they can do so in a civil tone. He may have been less than civil to Barwick, but I don't believe, if you look, you'll find him attacking *you*. Both sides of that discussion were aired, others may make up their own minds. You and he should agree to respectfully disagree and leave it at that. And that's the proper template for all such disagreements here. I've used CSW in conjunction with other protocols and have helped folks to beat their cancer, not only once, but many times. And with many different types of cancer. And I've dealt successfully with many other diseases with various protocols, for many folks, too. Yes, those are certainly *valuable* insights, and I'm sure many of us would be grateful if you shared them with us over time. A lot of folks would value the opportunity to learn from you. You must think the list's hammerings are justified for you haven't addressed much of it before now - except with me. This is crucial... You have not been hammered without cause, John. The people in this group are used to being able to express a variety of opinions and *NOT* be insulted, attacked, or ridiculed for them. You have made it a practice from day one of loudly labeling things you disagreed with as wrong, dangerous, foolish, etc., and the people who wrote them irresponsible or incompetent. You routinely direct criticisms at the PERSONS whose opinions and statements you find objectionable, while characterizing those statements as the obvious result of serious mental and moral deficiencies in their authors. In other words, you argue ad-hominem at the drop of a hat, and that pisses people off, and they respond in-kind. And you percieve a hostile environment? Imagine that... The members here are not constrained to only saying things that John Stevens believes are true. And athough I invite you to try to influence us in matters you feel are important, it is not within your power to dictate what may and may not be said, nor reasonable to expect to instantly change long settled opinions and attitudes without a lengthy effort to persuade us to your way of thinking... An effort, by the way, that ought to include thorough and sincere consideration by *YOU* of the notions we bring to the table as well. It'd only be fair, don't you think? only I can rebel periodically when it gets a little too much groupie for me. I'll see how it goes. If the fire starts, again, with your groupies, I may seek out - because there are many folks that know about the power of CSW outside the list... Let's talk about those people you disparage as groupies. They are also members and welcome here as my guests. This list is for them as much as it is for you and me. Many of our members are users of the knowledge that we have shared with them. They have learned to make their own CS, they've used it, given it away, and seen results of their own and shared them with us. They are welcome to help new folks, too, John. Why not? It spreads the load and makes the work easier for us all. Of course the old-timers and expert-types are here to listen and chime in when needed to clarify details or correct anything that goes too far off track. To make an analogy... You've come along, stumbling across a different tradition, so to speak, one that's proven quite alien to you in many of its details. And you've reacted badly, loudly declaring things wrong for being different, abusing people for using what they've been taught here because you disagree with the teachers. They don't need to invent this stuff from the ground up, John, in order to be allowed to help others at their own level.
Re: CSSpeaking of Migraines....
Thanks for this, sent to friends this am with appreciation... - Original Message - From: Steve To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:33 PM Subject: CSSpeaking of Migraines Here is a link to my wife's attempt to put together a list of migraine remedies and so on. She was getting lost with all the info and so decided to put it together in a word document for her own use. Then, she wanted to pass this info along to some of her friends on her yahoo Pet Rat groups, but it was getting difficult since some folks couldn't open up her Word document. So, today I converted it to a web page. Migraines have nothing to do with Rats, but I fiddled around with a photo I had taken of Pongo, one of our Rex rats and turned it into the background for the page so it wouldn't just be all black and white. http://www.eatonrapidsjunkbarn.com/rats/clg_migraines.091209.htm
Re: CSMS cure - Comment
Thank you connie for your post. I was mildly surprised at the lack of interest in this breakthrough. I know many people were elated at the possibility of FIXing this terrible problem. Only Ode seemed to get it. The MS societies are not enthusiastic about it either. I guess the reason for that is they would be totally redundant if this procedure becomes widly known and practiced. Oh, of course the big pharmas too, as all their autoimmune drugs used to treat it would drop off their profit lists. Also of interest, is the method of treatment. It may be applicable to other ailments too, not just MS. What other symptoms are a result of blocked veins, and given symtomatic names that the pharmas could make a ton of dough on. Just wondering. My sister, who thought she had a cataract problem, recently found out it was due to a Branch Vein Occlusion, not a cataract at all. Ross - Original Message - From: craehow...@juno.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 9:11 AM Subject: CSMS cure - Comment After reading the original post (the website indicated) I find it interesting that comments were not along that line. Yes, it very sad that someone we knew who indicated that CS had made a significant difference in her condition lost her life; and we need to pass along her protocols that she shared with her story; but also when we become aware of a breakthrough (CS or not) that also needs to be discussed. If it's blockage or a build at the base of the brain... is the surgery indicated the only methodology for removal. Also, does anyone have or know of someone who has knowledge of this procedure. As we all know (with CS use) that there is skepticism and total disregard by most of the medical profession regarding this. I would be interested in hearing more comments regarding the initial subject. connie Advance Your Legal Career Search legal degree programs from the top online colleges!
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Re: CS CS Generators (Many to choose from)
i believe Terry still makes the 10 gal cs system. in Nova Scotia his number is 902 584 3810 ross - Original Message - From: ATOMICSILVER atomicsil...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 9:09 PM Subject: Re: CS CS Generators (Many to choose from) Hi Tel, trying to get hold of Terry Chamberlain - any chance you can send me his details privately ? many thanks -Richard On 14/04/2009, at 11:26, Tel Tofflemire wrote: I know you and ode Bob put these together, That is wonderful and it was much better than you had before. Ole Bob Tested my CS, and I talked to him on line a few times, , however Ole Bob did agree that the CS gen. Colloidal Master was a very good buy, and made effortless Colloidal Silver by the gallon. I do and have for 10 years with the same unit. I never fiddle with a quart. Terry Chamberlain from Canada ( a member of this list also ) has a unit that makes 10 gallons of CS per hour. He donated a unit to my cousin, a Hospital administrator Nun Nurse, working in Africa. I have great respect for him too, he never peddles his units on this site. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. --- On Tue, 4/14/09, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net wrote: From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net Subject: Re: CSSummary of CS Generators To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 5:24 AM One way or another, people pay for what they don't know or are unwilling to do. Personally, I'm too scattered to watch a slow process, so I had to make it automatic or face a mess. MY problem that other people have as well. If you can solve your own problems, you automatically have a product that people who don't, will buy and be very glad to have. I made these things for ME.had NO idea if anyone else would ever want one. I figured that if 3 per month were bought, I'd break even AND I'd learn how to construct a website and do E-Biz..something ELSE I was interested in at the time.. MY problem. Something less than Zero is not a loss if you learn something for the effort applied, that solves your own problems. I'm glad they do like the product, but had they not.MY problems are still solved to MY satisfaction. I'da done it just for that...thought I WAS...glad to be wrong. With applied self interest, there's no way to loose. No one else has that interest?..no problem. Curiosity skills the cat. Ode No matter how good the car, No matter how good the tool, No matter how good , the fishing lure, The Operator is the KEY to performance. I will put your document in the silver list archive, because I know, within a week or two, 100 people will say, I can't find it, I lost it, I did not save it, or I forgot where I put it. Many do not know, any more about managing their mail, than they do, about making a CS Generator, or Calculating the ppm of any solution. They do not know, if they are going North, South, East, or West, Running around in Circles, or Falling off the cliff. And I may be dead wrong, about everything. Wayne, RNX, = -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com ATOMICSILVER atomicsil...@gmail.com www.atomicsilver.info
Re: CSSuccess!
Wonderful report - Original Message - From: Indi indi.sha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com; Brooks Bradley brooks76...@lycos.com Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 6:15 PM Subject: CSSuccess! It's been one week today since I started using the protocol reported by Brooks Bradley for treating my MRSA; i.e. using 75% CS, 10% DMSO, and 15% glycerine both topically on my affected areas (legs, feet, back, neck, and arms) and snorting it from a nasal spray bottle. I am also drinking 8 ounces a day of straight CS. Three days ago I found I no longer need my cane to walk. I no longer need to take frequent breaks to put my feet up. All inflammation is now gone, and the purplish splotches which have covered most of my affected areas for the past few years (I looked like a burn victim) are returning to a healthy color. My energy levels are nearly as high now as they were before I became infected. I am sleeping well again. For the first time in six years, I feel pretty much like myself again! This infection had practically made an invalid of me. For the past 10 months, I was able to keep it somewhat under control using only CS topically and internally. This kept me out of the hospital and off antibiotics, but I was still very limited in my strength and energy, and in how much time I could spend on my feet before the symptoms would flare up. My symptoms included red to deep purple skin discoloration, swelling, itching, boils, cellulitis, fever, pain, labored breathing, and lethargy. The doctors were no help, and for nearly six years I was in and out of the hospital on IV vancomycin and other antibiotics, every two to three months. The antibiotics would appear to fix the problem, but symptoms always returned within a few weeks. When the doctors insisted on amputation of my right leg in January 2007, I simply stopped going to see them. With no treatment at all for roughly two weeks, the infection spread to my other leg, back, arms, and neck. At that time I expected to die shortly, and decided that would be preferable to a life of misery and hospitalization. I did not believe amputation would rid me of MRSA, and I knew the drugs couldn't either. It was then that a friend bought me my first bottle of CS (it was MesoSilver). At $50 a pint I could not afford to keep using it, so a few moths later I began brewing my own using the HVAC cone method, which I am quite sold on, given the results I have since obtained. It may be that the more common LVDC works as well, I cannot say. I just haven't been very inclined to try, since what I'm doing now works so well and my condition was so serious. I'm just not willing to risk going backwards, so I've stayed with this method. Using the straight CS stopped the symptoms from getting out of control, but it did not eliminate the infection. From my body's response to this new treatment which I read about in an email from Brooks Bradley to this list I now feel confident that this infection will be cured altogether in a short time. I am using my home-brewed CS, Now brand 100% vegetable glycerine, and unbranded 99% pure DMSO intended for veterinary use and distributed by FWI of Tulsa, OK. I bought the glycerine and the DMSO from amazon.com. Thank you Brooks Bradley and thanks to Mike Devour and everyone on the silver list. You have given me my life back. :) I hope that this will be of help to others suffering as I did, and if anyone knows a good place to repost this message where it might help others, they have my unconditional permission to do so. Thanks again, indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS[FW]Recent Research on Weaponized Biologicals
I received your post Brooks, with thanks. Ross Craig - Original Message - From: brooks76009 To: Silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:58 PM Subject: CS[FW]Recent Research on Weaponized Biologicals This is a re-post, would someone let me know if my original post of this morning was ever received on-list. I have no evidence that it went through. I seldom post, these days, and when I do I believe it to be of some substance. Since my available time for such is quite limited, it is somewhat discouraging.if, indeed, this post did not come through. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Recent Research on Weaponized Biologicals Date : Wed, 05 Nov 2008 12:53:12 -0500 (EST) From : brooks76009 brooks76...@lycos.com To : Silver-list@eskimo.com Based upon evidence exhibited by most of the most likely participants to be involved in any large scale, organized military or terrorist-induced conflict.I offer the following informationwhich may be of value/interest to the general list membership. Dr. Thomas E. Levy, and associates, have conducted and released some rather compelling data relative to the possible effects of several (of the most likely) biological agents to be the source of future Bioterrorism incidents. To wit: The most likely candidates.beyond Anthrax and Smallpox, seem to be Plague (pneumonic/bubonic plague), Tularemia (especially Francisella tularensis) and Botulinum Toxin (as produced by Clostridium botulinum). A majority of cases of plague can be, logically, assumed to occur--naturally---as bubonicweaponized forms of septicemic and/or pneumonic strains can be anticipated among potential military insults. Bubonic Plague insults (in general) do respond to rapid, intensive, treatment protocols.especially if addressed within the first 2 to 6 days. Colloidal Silver HAS EFFECTED quite powerful, suppressive/corrective effects (in in vitro) on this form. If left untreated, the death rate usually exceeds 50%. However, Septicemic plague is almost uniformly fatal when left untreated. * Pneumonic plague...similar to anthrax, requires aggressive treatment to avoid fatality. Although Broad-spectrum antibiotics (e.g. Streptomycin, gentamicin, doxycycline, tetracycline, and chloramphenicoldo exhibit useful effects-if introduced EARLY IN THE INFECTIOUS STAGES. Vaccine is no longer available for the plague. Tularemia is a disease caused by the Fancisella Tularensis bacteria. Though not a potential bioweapon familiar to most peoplethe extreme contagiousness, especially from the inhalation form---makes it a very enticing candidate for bioterrorism. Usually not considered a major fatality threatif left untreated, pneumonic tularemia can be expected to inflict 33% mortality. Early, proper treatment should keep the mortality to 2% of patients. However, data seems to indicate that WEAPONIZED strains may prove to be much less responsive to antibiotic address. Botulinum represents a more consequential threat, especially because of the power ans speed of its effects. Botulinum-generated toxin is extremely powerful (considered by some to be the MOST powerful, single, toxic agent on the planet), e.g. one gram---properly distributed, could kill one million people. If inhaled, a dose 1/100 of the swallowed dosage would be sufficient to cause death. The frightening prospect for Botulinum is that it is the TOXIN derivativenot the bacteria itself.which is the killing agent. As there is no biogical component in the toxin fractioncolloidal silver is of INCONSEQUENTIAL EFFECT as a protocol modality against it. However, there is GOOD NEWS for those seeking a helpful response to ALL THREE of these biological weapons. Dr. Levy and associates have utilized protocols first developed by individuals like, Klenner (1957), Calarese (1985), Jahan (1984, and Dey (1966).to confirm a VERY POWERFUL ADDRESS in aid! ing an effective response to all three of these insults. The protocols are based, primarily, upon the implementation of Vitamin C, intravenously in the acutely poisoned. As a prophylactic, daily dosages of 5000 to 6000 mg of any form of ascorbic acid have demonstraed to be UNUSALLY effective in aiding the body to avoid the scurvy-like condition which enables a large panoply of bacterial insults to proliferate... and to rapidly metabolize the increased vitamin C...which has become available. It is of special note to realize that the vitamin C exhibits a VERY beneficial effect in cancelling the effects of the Botulinum toxinalong with potential compromises usually inflicted by NEARLY ALL toxin related insults. Vitamin C therapy demonstrated VERY POWERFUL efffects on a group of 24 pesticides, heavy metals, hydrocarbons, and gaseous
Re: CSMRSA and other Bad things
Sol, iron overload could mean you have HH, Hemochromotosis. It is very easy to treat (phlebotomy) if done before major damage, and very dangerous to ignore, as it can attack many organs. A DNA check is required for a proper diagnosis. Ross - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 2:36 PM Subject: Re: CSMRSA and other Bad things Wayne Fugitt wrote: This makes me think there may be more than one type of MRSA. Be amazing if there were not. But there are also different people. Having just had it comfirmed that I have iron overload and going on a reading binge about it, I found it is one thing that differs from person to person, and it is more common that I would have guessed, and it increases suseptibility to infections. I read that anemic children in 3rd world countries have been given iron injections to cure their anemia, but then many die later from sudden overwhelming infections that were low level (hidden so to speak) prior to iron administration. Before researching this for myself, I had read a lot of speculation as to why some people are so much more resistant to infectious organisms than others, but the iron factor is something I'd never heard of before. I'm not saying everyone who is susceptible to some kind of bacteria or other has too much iron, but just pointing out that I recently ran across something that is ONE factor impacting resistance. There are many such individual differences that can affect immune response and resistance. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWhy Worry about Cholesterol ?
Lots of good reading at that site, thanks Wayne... Ross - Original Message - From: Wayne Fugitt To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: CSWhy Worry about Cholesterol ? Evening Dee, Interesting message. At 02:27 PM 7/24/2008, you wrote: Cholesterol hype is just another myth perpetuated to make money for drug companies. Yes, one of a million or two. Our bodies produce cholesterol to repair itself and we need more of it as we get older, not less. Sounds like you believe some of the myth. It is far more sensible to find out *why* we are producing more cholesterol and to address the cause, sooner than lowering the cholesterol with toxic drugs. Dee Now how in the world would you or anyone know, what is Too Much ? I fear you are back in the park with the mainstream theory and the people. One of the toughest and healthiest people I have known, has a count of 400 and has all his life. All my few healthy friend have a HDL about like mine. The sickest people I know have the highest HDL count. Now explain that ! I guess it is possible to believe some of the theory, but not all of it. So, .. another of my favorite questions, .. What else does the main stream say that you believe? I believe that cholesterol is a nutrient, ( compound, hormone, chelate, or whatever you want to call it ). It is used by every cell of the body. Cholesterol has a melting point. One scientist, many years ago, stated that.. In the presence of lecithin, the melting point is below body temperature. In the absence of lecithin, it is higher than body temperature. Also, babies die that never breathe a single breath. They have no lecithin in the lung tissue. The same is true with people that have Emphysema. Supposedly we can make lecithin. I think some can and some can't, depending on many things I have stated before. Nevertheless, I have taken lecithin off and on over the years. This site will tell you more than you ever wanted to know. Take a look. This site is devoted to exposing medical mis-information. Fats, Cholesterol and Cardiovascular Disease Information Point ... UK based website of researcher and author, Barry Groves, offering online nutritional information, who also exposes dietary and medical misinformation and ... www.second-opinions.co.uk/cvd_index.html I have communicated a lot with Barry Groves long ago. He used to come to the USA often but I never got to meet him. Wayne === -- Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1518 - Release Date: 6/25/2008 9:46 AM
Re: CSBrooks Bradley-Magnesium
me too..I have a folder for his posts only... - Original Message - From: Dee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 10:14 AM Subject: Re: CSBrooks Bradley-Magnesium Me too! Dee ---Original Message--- From: faith gagne Date: 04/01/2008 13:34:05 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBrooks Bradley-Magnesium Dear Brooks: Many thanks from me also, and I am saving the article too. Faith G. - Original Message - From: mborg...@att.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 7:56 AM Subject: Re: CSBrooks Bradley-Magnesium Dear Brooks Thanks again for your information, this time I am saving the article. Mary -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1208 - Release Date: 1/3/2008 3:52 PM attachment: faint_grain.jpg
Re: CSConcentrace
The same thing happened with me, and that was three years ago, and I still feel great...A good squirt in my smoothie every day is all it takes. Ross - Original Message - From: Shirley Reed To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 7:31 PM Subject: CSConcentrace My personal experience with Concentrace--I got an immediate burst of energy when I took my first dose. In other words, I felt an immediate and good reaction to it. That does not happen often with supplements for me, but it has happened once or twice.That's all I have to offer on it. pj -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.35/1040 - Release Date: 9/30/2007 9:01 PM
CSHealth Canada warning about CS
It seems it is against a particular company. They are concerned it's not sterile. That it may *cause* infection. That's funny. http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release.do?id=768052 And here is a report from British Colombia ministry of environment on the effect of silver in groundwater. It does not see silver as a threat. from the report:below Summary This document is one in a series that establishes ambient water quality criteria for British Columbia. It includes an overview which is followed by the main body of the report. This document sets criteria for silver to protect freshwater and marine aquatic life. Criteria were not set for human, livestock or wildlife drinking water, recreational waters, irrigation water or industrial water uses, since, either suitable data documenting the effects of silver for these uses were lacking, or the criteria would have been about 1000 times higher than the aquatic life criteria and therefore redundant. Silver is most toxic to microscopic organisms or larval forms of aquatic animals. There is no evidence that silver is naturally transformed to a hazardous biologically-available form (such as mercury into methyl mercury). Ionic silver is more toxic to aquatic organisms than silver compounds. Thiosulphate-complexed silver breaks down to silver sulphide which is less toxic than the silver ion. Silver criteria are summarized in the chapter on Recommended Criteria. A more detailed discussion of the criteria is presented in the main body of the report. http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/wat/wq/BCguidelines/silver/silver.html
Re: CSDrab Posts. Who Runs the Country ?
I saw Terry last week and he is just fineDoing less online and more active in his community. He's involved with teaching kids something or other. I am sure they are learning. He explained to me he was doing more important things with his life. Not that he meant anything bad about this list, just that he is busy with other things right now. Ross - Original Message - From: Dee d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 2:18 PM Subject: Re: CSDrab Posts. Who Runs the Country ? I was wondering that very thing Wayne. Dee ---Original Message--- From: CWFugitt Date: 05/09/2007 14:18:29 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSDrab Posts. Who Runs the Country ? By the way, what happened to our friend Terry Chamberlain? I hope he is ok. . Wayne === -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.5/990 - Release Date: 9/4/2007 10:36 PM
CSRosemary Jacobs
She has come up on another list i am on, and someone again is using her story to dissuade all from CS. Can someone tell me what the real scoop on this is? Rss
Re: CSRe: Ode
Mr Jester, that ad hominem attack on Ode was uncalled for, and have you considered you are not at a level to understand him? Ross - Original Message - From: Simon Jester tansta...@libertytrek.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 5:34 PM Subject: CSRe: Ode I think Ode's Brain is getting heavily oxygenated by absorption through the ethers regarding the topic of MMS. He is racking up the points today. Heh - you two must be from the same planet... His drug-induced-stupor-like ramblings are about as coherent as what might emanate from some wanna-be-bohemian-poet standing on a stage surrounded by all three of his groupies in some smoke-filled bohemian bomb shelter... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.2/985 - Release Date: 9/2/2007 4:32 PM
Re: CSOT(Sorry!) Carpal tunnel
Lisa, I had a bad case of carpel tunnel earned honestly by gaming. Hitting that right index finger on the mouse far too many times did it. I fixed it simply by swapping the left for right clicks in the mouse control program. Then your third and fourth fingers can easily hit the go button and it doesn't twist your arm the same way it does with your index finger. Anyway it worked for me and it's worth a try as it only takes seconds to change. Another benefit is it makes it hard for others to easily use your computer, that is unless you tell them about your mouse. :) Ross Tony Moody wrote: On 31 May 2007 at 16:51, rer...@mindspring.com wrote about : Subject : CSOT(Sorry!) Carpal tunnel (Please forgive this off topic question, but maybe someone will say to soak my wrists in CS!) I have recently started a part time data entry job and I am concern about developing carpal tunnel. I am a knitter too, so sometimes I feel some twinges there already. Do any of you wise ones have any suggestions?TIA Lisa Hi Lisa, Yes you could soak your wrists in CS and DMSO mixture. :-) that should take the CS in to the possible inflammation sites. Taking CS before should act as a preventative. I would also do stretch, lubricate and relax. I would also do gentle stretching and bending of the wrists before starting the work. Like warm up execises to get into condition. I would also drink my full quota of water every day and perhaps take a suitable oil to lubricate the tissues internally. Also I would do dancing at the keyboard often as I can: shifting on seat, blinking, changing eye focus, to break the tension and held stiffness. Relax and try to think a pleasant scene at the end of each line of data. Good luck, Tony PS. if you were Waynes dog he would beat you and shout at you to get on with your knitting. :-( -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVegetarianism. Dumb Doctors, Amino Acids
Gosh Kirsteen, you appear to have a lot of problems with these lists, and aren't shy to say so, but you are not going to change it, so I guess your tag line is not yet true here.. - Original Message - From: Kirsteen Wright To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 4:18 AM Subject: Re: CSVegetarianism. Dumb Doctors, Amino Acids On 5/28/07, CWFugitt c_wa...@earthlink.net wrote: So, where does this leave us? A bit confused as usual, does it not? Whey Protein has a variety of amino acids. Not sure if a 100 % vegetarian can eat that or not? Most of them need to learn to bend a little before they break. You've left me totally confused as to how you can pontificate that they need to learn to bend, while admitting you don't even know if they would take whey or not? The short answer is a vegetarian can take whey, a vegan won't. Kirsteen -- Chaos, confusion, disorder - my work here is done -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/821 - Release Date: 5/27/2007 3:05 PM
Re: CSSuper SilverR
I see your point Ode. Just read the whole patent file, and it seems that every point they say about silver colloids have been discussed here in great detail at one time or other. They own silver mines too, as you probably know. I would say it is a given they monitor this group for ideas they can patent, against the day when the fda takes over the silver applications business. Not only the health uses of silver colloids, but the manufacturing of silver building materials, clothing production, washing machines, etc. It's gonna be hard though, to stop others making something that only takes some silver wire, low voltage, and good water. I wonder when they will come up with eis, shhh, and patent that monicker too. I just googled eis and there were many, but totally unrelated hits, and when I added silver this is the only relevant hit. I don't know the poster, but the credit for everything on that page goes to you, Marshall, Brooks, Mike, Trem, and others. It seems to summarize all post ideas over the last few years and done so in a complete and easy to understand format. Congrats to whoever put it together. http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html Ross - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 7:38 AM Subject: Re: CSSuper SilverR You ever get the feeling that ABL [calling itself IHBL here] is tapping the silverlist for info to make machines to patent? Then call what they make the same waysomething different and better? Ode At 12:42 PM 5/11/2007 -0500, you wrote: Super Silver(r) is an engineered silver nano-particle mineral supplement. It includes 10 ppm silver utilizing International Health's Biotech Labs unique patented silver technology. See the patent: http://www.internationalhealth.net/user/United%20States%20Patent_%207135 195.pdf link from the page: http://www.internationalhealth.net/SuperSilverFamilyofProducts.html -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.8/800 - Release Date: 5/11/2007 7:34 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.8/800 - Release Date: 5/11/2007 7:34 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.8/800 - Release Date: 5/11/2007 7:34 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.8/800 - Release Date: 5/11/2007 7:34 PM
Re: CSMore on pH
- Original Message - From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:33 PM Subject: Re: CSMore on pH I have questions too.how to use Concentrace so you don't have to taste it. I've mixed it in juice, but yuck!Also, when doing the ph testingyou use the first a.m. saliva and the second urine of the day? Why do they say to put it into a cup first? I've lost my handy sheet for recording these : ( I have been using Concentrace (body now alkaline) for about three years and have never tasted it, although as Terry said it has an awful taste. I put a squirt of it in my smoothie every day that includes: EIS/CS , O.J. , skim milk powder, cinnamon, and a banana. I don't really know which of those ingredients is doing the masking. Ross -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAlmost as good as Colloidal Silver...
*P. S. The basic ingredient is _FISH OIL_.* not sure but I think one of the other two ingredients is DMSO... No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/748 - Release Date: 4/5/2007 3:33 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/750 - Release Date: 4/6/2007 9:30 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSanother cause of all new diseases.... Bisphenol A
Oh oh, it seems these polycarbonate bottles are the cause of almost everything. Is nothing safe anymore? From the Globe and Mail today: It seems obvious that a high dose of a poison would be more dangerous than a lower one, but bisphenol A is creating a stir because it doesn't follow this seemingly common-sense rule. Researchers say this oddity results from the fact that bisphenol A isn't a conventional harmful agent, such as cigarette smoke, but behaves in the unconventional way typical of hormones, where even vanishingly small exposures can be harmful. This is why some environmentalists and scientists contend that bisphenol A, which leaches in trace amounts from food and beverage packaging, is among the scariest manufactured substances in use, an eerie modern version of the vaunted lead water pipes by which ancient Romans were unknowingly poisoned. Extrapolating from the results of animal experiments, they suspect bisphenol A has its fingerprints all over the unexplained human health trends emerging in recent decades hinting at something going haywire with sex hormones, including the early onset of puberty, declining sperm counts, and the huge increase in breast and prostate cancer, among other ailments. full story: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20070407.CHEMICAL07/TPStory/Environment
Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2007 #127
Sota is a manufacturer of the silver pulsar, a magnetic pulsar, a water ozonator, and a couple of other instruments. http://www.sotainstruments.com/ - Original Message - From: meeja...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 9:48 PM Subject: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2007 #127 please tell me who Sota is -- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/718 - Release Date: 3/11/2007 9:27 AM
Re: CSSota instruments CS Gen
- Original Message - Ok, this is about the Sota MagPulsar.. Sota MP5 that I bought from Terry over two years ago. Used it many times on leg and ankle pains, chest colds, and with success, but at the time I attributed it mostly to my diet changes and improved immune system.. Two months ago my MPV lost power steering, and it is worth much more than the vehicle is worth to repair it. So I drive as I used to do in the fifties and sixties, with armstrong steering. BTW it really builds up your upper torso if you are not doing any other exercise for that. But, to the point, this ease with which I drive standard now and my new upper strength led me to overuse my right arm, as a right handed person would do. Then one day sharp pain in the right shoulder whenever lifting anything above the elbow. Ouch. I used DMSO on it for a couple of days, with relief, so I could sleep, but it came back by next morning. I can't believe I waited so long to use the pulsar. One 20 minute treatment and poof, gone and not to return for a week now. And when I drive now there is no hint of any pain. I am amazed. Ross From: larry tankersley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 12:13 PM Subject: CSSota instruments CS Gen Dear listers... Does anyone have experience, pro or con, using the Sota instruments Silver Pulser, Bio Tuner, or any of there other products? TIA larry tankersley; Gainesville,Florida USA -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/714 - Release Date: 3/8/2007 10:58 AM
Re: CSArgVictim
They were prococateurs, nothing else...read a little webster: An agent provocateur (plural: agents provocateurs, French language, inciting agent) is a person who secretly disrupts a group's activities from within the group. Agents provocateurs typically represent the interests of another group, or are agents directly assigned to provoke unrest, violence, debate, or argument by or within a group while acting as a member of the group. An agent provocateur is often a police officer that encourages suspects to carry out a crime under conditions where evidence can be obtained; or who suggests the commission of a crime to another, in hopes they will go along with the suggestion, so they may be convicted of the crime. These are sometimes called sting operations. One common use of Agents provocateurs is to investigate consensual or victimless crimes; since each participant in such crimes are willing participants, it is difficult for the authorities to discover such crimes without the use of undercover agents. Agents provocateurs are also used against political opponents. Here, it has been documented that provocateurs deliberately carry out or seek to incite counter-productive and/or ineffective acts, in order to foster public disdain for the group and provide a pretext for aggression; and to worsen the punishments its members are liable for. Terrorists sometimes act as agents provocateurs when they seek to provoke government repression that they hope will alienate their potential constituency from the government in question, and thus increase support for themselves (as the opponents of the government in question). In this sense, provocation may be combined with endorsement terrorism. Within the United States the COINTELPRO program of the Federal Bureau of Investigation had FBI agents posing as political radicals in order to disrupt the activities of radical political groups in the U.S., such as the Black Panthers, Ku Klux Klan, and the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee. The activities of agents provocateurs against dissidents in Imperial Russia was one of the grievances that led to the Russian Revolution of 1917. New York Police officers have been accused of acting as agents provocateurs during protests against the Republican National Convention in New York City.[1] The activities of agents provocateurs pose a number of ethical and legal issues. Within common law jurisdictions, the law of entrapment seeks to discern whether the provocateur's target intended to commit the crime he participated in with the provocateur, or whether the suggestion to commit the crime began with the provocateur. It is also debatable whether the institutionalized deception that the use of agents provocateurs implies is in fact more harmful to the social order than the various consensual offenses typically investigated by provocateurs. - Original Message - From: G K Murray kg...@sasktel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 3:31 PM Subject: Re: CSArgVictim That is because AV and Gina Gomes were unsubbed from the group early yesterday or Saturdaynight. According to them it was a surprise. marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca ArgyriaVictim claims to know of numerous cases, but, until she/he presents them for inspection, I must assume they don’t actually exist. I must also wonder if Victim's problem actually exists. Well Terry, she's certainly gone silent on the subject, hasn't she? MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.25/669 - Release Date: 2/4/2007 9:58 PM
Re: CSArgVictim
Oops, did I say webster, showing my age, of course it's Wikpedia I mean, if they had just given one iota of real info.. - Original Message - From: Ross Craig lag...@eastlink.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 4:38 PM Subject: Re: CSArgVictim They were prococateurs, nothing else...read a little webster: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSdiabetes
Don't know if any of you have seen this info outside of canada, but this may be up there with the discovery of insulin. And I don't know what this has to do with silver EIS/CS except maybe the ability to reduce inflammation? Diabetes breakthrough Tom Blackwell, National Post Published: Friday, December 15, 2006 In a discovery that has stunned even those behind it, scientists at a Toronto hospital say they have proof the body's nervous system helps trigger diabetes, opening the door to a potential near-cure of the disease that affects millions of Canadians. Diabetic mice became healthy virtually overnight after researchers injected a substance to counteract the effect of malfunctioning pain neurons in the pancreas. I couldn't believe it, said Dr. Michael Salter, a pain expert at the Hospital for Sick Children and one of the scientists. Mice with diabetes suddenly didn't have diabetes any more. http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=a042812e-492c-4f07-8245-8a598ab5d1bfk=63970
Re: CScomparing
Hi Sandy, Gotta jump in here with something to go along with you research. We have nothing against Meso, except that you have to buy it, and if meso is no better at doing what we expect and know that EIS/CS will do, why would one buy it. There's no definitive study to say which is more effective, that I know of. Both are effective. Tht the only unanswered question we have among the minds here is how LITTLE is just as useful as massive dosages. I don't know what Meso costs, but that link you had in canada had a best price $99. for 16 bottles of 16 ounces. One and a half gallons. For two gallons at that price you could have a system built by one of the suppliers here who are not allowed or inclined to advertise. Or you can make it yourself for little money, the items are easy to get and put together. Cute little dogs you have, very cute, but my shepherd and I use 8 or 10 oz a day. I couldn't afford that if I had to buy it. . Ross - Original Message - From: Sandy Files To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 2:36 PM Subject: CScomparing I have read both that were proposed.. From that info I gleaned that the meso was better - than the regular Ionic, which the Sovereign, and many of the others that I have looked into, including ASAP.. It is very hard to compare apples to apples - which, as stated, is on purpose, depending on who is selling what.. From what I gathered, the meso is smaller than Ionic, but even Marshall's paper explains/agrees that the color is due to larger particle size..So is it possible for someone to explain WHY the meso has such a dark color... It seems contradictorily to what they are stating about their product.. Granted, I am no chemisty major.. Sovereign is out of range for an ionic solution $$ wise. Would rather consider the ASAP dicussed earlier - or have found www.Raphalabs.com searching for colloidal sciences labs.. They are also a regular 20 ppm ionic from Canada.. sandysba...@yahoo.com http://www.mamachi1955.us/sandysbabeschihuahuas/index.htm __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.23/591 - Release Date: 12/17/2006 3:17 PM
Re: CSRE: floaters in the eyes
Hi Peter, Tonite, with a few beers under the belt, I cannot help but reply to your post in detail, as I do understand what it is like, at this stage of life, which is code for, I am old and have no time to waste learning about new things. Just tell me what will fix these damm floaters in my eyes. You want a concoction to fix the floaters. But only harmless ones. And Chinese medicine or philosophy don't interest you, and we are all going to die anyway. If you were joking I could accept that, but i didn't see any smileys there. If you do realize, if it's true, that you have hypertension cause you are not as active as you should be, then what is your question? You are dying, We all are. Only you can control how fast that is happening. Continue seeking, maybe that will help. probably gonna regret this post. Ross - Original Message - From: Peter M. Stellas stel...@foxinternet.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 8:50 PM Subject: RE: CSRE: floaters in the eyes I have no idea what my blood is like, except that it is type O. I also know that I have hypertension because I am not as active as I need to be. Nothing seems to ail me except trying to read through floaters. If they can be eliminated through flax seed oil, or though the other concoctions that have been mentioned here, I would like to look into that, particularly flax seed oil that is absolutely harmless, as well as CS. Chinese medicine and philosophy are outside the scope of my interests, at this stage of my life. After all , we are all going to leave this body behind, sooner or later. But thanks for the information thus far. Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.18/586 - Release Date: 12/13/2006 6:13 PM
Re: CSTeam engineers muscle, bone cell differentiation with aid of ink-jet printer
Marshall, I would never miss a link you posted, even it you didn't say why... this is why: The long-term promise of this new technology could be the tailoring of tissue-engineered regenerative therapies. thanks, Ross - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 1:32 PM Subject: CSTeam engineers muscle, bone cell differentiation with aid of ink-jet printer This is interesting: http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/team-engineers-muscle-bone-cell-differentiation-with-aid-of-ink-jet-printer-12156.html Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.16/582 - Release Date: 12/11/2006 4:32 PM
Re: CS[RE]CS(no subject)
Diatribe? no way, thanks Brooks for all that wonderful information on the care and feeding of older dogs. WhereI live dog food is 15% taxed, but human food is not and neither is agriculture products for non pet animals. ha ha. I feed my 10 yr white gs buffalo every day. Again thanks for your imput and send diatribes anytime. Ross - Original Message - From: Brooks Bradley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 8:13 PM Subject: CS[RE]CS(no subject) Dear Geo, I made the original post. We use the granulated form of alfalfa for all of our dogs (in our Orphaned Dog Program). You can purchase granulated (almost powdered) alfalfa from any well-stocked feed store. A forty pound sack should not cost over about $15.00enough to feed 200 large dogs for two years. A dog the size of the one to which you refer should do quite well on one teaspoon daily. Just sprinkle it on his food (if you feed only dry food, add just enough water to cause the alfalfa granules to adhere to the foodstuff) and mix well. We have never had a single dog refuse to consume alfalfa offered in this manner. Our dietary program is not one of the usual types. We employ a variation of Langsley Russell's raw meat (ground chuck and whole chicken quarters) and bones system, with the addition of 1/2 to 1 cup (depending on dog size) of RAW UNPROCESSED cow's milk. We do add various vegetables twice weekly, together with cooked oatmeal served three times w! eekly. We do give the older dogs (over 12 years) vitamin supplementation in powdered form. At present we have 17 dogs of various ages. They are NEVER sick with any of the conventional afflictions so dearly loved by the veterinary profession. We do give brewers yeast as a daily supplementto everyone. True, the daily cost per dog is somewhat greater than a canned ration (dead food), supplemented with a dry kibble type crumbles; but the OVERALL cost per dog is demonstrably less on a total care, yearly basis (no vet bills). We DO feed every dog 1 teaspoon of granulated kelp daily. No additional minerals of any type are fed. My apologies for this lengthy diatribeeven though it does expose my misanthropic tendencies when stacking the human race up against the world's canine representatives. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. p.s. Prior to instigating this feeding program our average yearly vet bills were, always, in excess of $3500. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : CS(no subject) Date : Sat, 9 Sep 2006 07:30:10 EDT From : geop...@aol.com To : silver-list@eskimo.com Cc : k...@verizon.com would like to get my 100# plus, lab / shep, on this alfalfa,,,confused with dosage, recommended, as search on on net reveals standard tablet is 648 mg,, not 50...even a multiple has 200 mg of alfalfa was this a typo ?... post reads something like 12 tabs for up to 60#,,, this would mean close to 24 tabs for my girl ping,, or should I just calculate mg's..thanks geo. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 9/12/2006
Re: CSDMSO
http://www.jeffersequine.com/ssc/product.asp?CID=1mscssid=4EDAJ92Q8XHG8JJFAWSHUAK1JM2D1P49pf_id=16064cmkw=dmso - Original Message - From: geop...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 1:48 AM Subject: Re: CSDMSO need a good source for quality dmso,, i have a container of it that has to be 15 years old,, i am reluctantant to use on me or my pets... was popular back than, and could by anyplace,, renewed interest has me seeking a source,, thanks, geo. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: 9/1/2006
Re: CSThe Godzilla
- Original Message - From: Robert Berger To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 5:06 PM Subject: Re: CSThe Godzilla Terry, whether you use a 6 volt battery or a 555 timer running on 9 volts the output is about the same. The timer also known as a zapper changes polarity every 10 to 3,500 times per minute. With the battery it might be necessasry to change hands every minute or so. Ole Bob But, Ole Bob, now you have complicated the subject when you admit the output is the same. Instead of a simple 6v lantern battery, you are using a nine volt battery with so small terminals you can't just wrap a wire around them, and therefore you need more parts, like a snap on terminal for the nine volt battery so you have wires to connect. Also, you have added a 555 timer, which I suspect no one here, well almost no one, knows what it is. This calls for more research to find out what it is and where to get it. More expertise required. A Godzilla is, like Terry said, a battery and a wire. Not only that but Terry pointed out that the non switching often is possibly more powerful in killing whatever. And who can hold the 'trodes in the same place all the time anyway, it is very convenient to switch them with your hands. No deep vein thrombosis, if you get my meaning. Simplicity is best. On the other hand, dipping the cloth 'trodes in CS instead of plain water might make it work faster? -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.1/355 - Release Date: 6/2/2006
Re: CSWhere is the Colloidal Silver list?
I am with Ted in this. Some here are getting carried completly away from what we are here for. There are, as Marshall pointed, out many sites to further this study of fibers. Give us a rest from all these diversions, please. - Original Message - From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 1:34 AM Subject: CSWhere is the Colloidal Silver list? I am wondering if CS will help the new-be's who took over the information on Colloidal Silver here? Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.2/349 - Release Date: 5/26/2006
Re: CSbrown recluse
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/ If you sign up to this group and go to files there are many posts about the brown recluse, all fixed with a godzilla...( 6 volt batt and home made electrodes) - Original Message - From: Barbara To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 4:34 PM Subject: Re: CSbrown recluse Thank you for your help pj :) I will tell her that it is so easy. Barbara Might google for brown recluse biteelectricity and see what you get. Some people use a small battery on these bites with excellent results. best wishes, pj -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.0/342 - Release Date: 5/17/2006
Re: CSLichen Planus
Thank you, I will... - Original Message - From: Malcolm Stebbins To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 5:58 AM Subject: Re: CSLichen Planus I suggest you contact the moderator of the microelectricitygermkiller list on yahoo; he had it and got rid of it. microelectricitygermkil...@yahoogroups.com At 06:05 PM 5/6/06 -0400, you wrote: Not to change the subject of wd40 or anything, but has anyone had experience with Lichen Planus.? It is normally expressed in skin eruptions, but can also be located in mucus membranes. My sister has it on her chest and is now wondering if it can be the cause of (her MD's) concerns with her colon, (just had a colonoscopy no results yet) and very recent severe reactions to seafood. She also has HH (iron overload) and I am wondering if there is any if anyone here knows more than the usual stuff you get when googling a medical term. And it's the weekend so the list is slow and I thought a new question might be appros today. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/333 - Release Date: 5/5/06 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/333 - Release Date: 5/5/2006
CSLichen Planus
Not to change the subject of wd40 or anything, but has anyone had experience with Lichen Planus.? It is normally expressed in skin eruptions, but can also be located in mucus membranes. My sister has it on her chest and is now wondering if it can be the cause of (her MD's) concerns with her colon, (just had a colonoscopy no results yet) and very recent severe reactions to seafood. She also has HH (iron overload) and I am wondering if there is any if anyone here knows more than the usual stuff you get when googling a medical term. And it's the weekend so the list is slow and I thought a new question might be appros today.
Re: CSPigs
oh ya, the secret ingredient in soylent green was..people. elegant don't ya think? - Original Message - From: Bruce Anderson bruce...@intergate.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 4:27 PM Subject: Re: CSPigs Hey do you remember the movie Solulent Green? SP/ Bruce A - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 12:06 Subject: Re: CSPigs You and me both. IS cultured meat ever going to be a reality? I doubt I will live to see it. sol Jonathan B. Britten wrote: I am looking forward to the coming days of cultured meat, which will be healthier and put and end to the cruelties of the current practices. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.0/275 - Release Date: 3/6/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/279 - Release Date: 3/10/2006
Re: CSCuring Cast Iron to As Good As Teflon Non Stick
Well I found this on google, so there must be more out there. I want oneI find this subject right on topic. Lagoon Sep 28, 2004 You may be interested to know that I have just acquired a fairly splendid copper, two handled, (brass handles)lidded cooking pan - like a casserole - which is lined with pure silver. Or at least it looks as if it is, and says it is on the side of the pan. It's marked with a crown, the word Paris,the words cuivre and argent pur (copper and pure silver), plus the letters Bte, and S.D.G.D and two clasped hands. It's about 25cm in diameter and 13 cm high. It looks to me to be made about 1890s - early 1900s, but I can't be sure. So far my attempts to find anything about it on the Net have yielded nothing. I did find one book reference to the fact that, in the 18th Century, physicians recommended that invalid meals by prepared in pure silver, and there are some silver saucepans around. Interestingly, I acquired a smaller, otherwise identical pan at the same time, the inside of which is absolutely destroyed, looking very much as if the pan has been over heated, causing the silver lining to actually melt. I do have an antique shop, and bought the pans to resell eventually, but my interest in finding out who/when/why they were made is much personal than commercial - and I thought the above might be of interest in terms of the original query. Dion Boehme - Robertson, NSW, Australia - Original Message - From: Carol Ann To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 11:05 PM Subject: RE: CSCuring Cast Iron to As Good As Teflon Non Stick LOL.. So how come there hasn't been silver cookware historically. Would be an interesting subject to research. Old Bob, how bout it? cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Silver's melting point is between 1600 - 1700 degrees F. If my wife's cooking near those temps, I'm eating at the diner! Chuck What is the output of a vacuum pump? On 3/7/2006 8:15:24 PM, Carol Ann (saffiresk...@yahoo.com) wrote: Jim, I think there is quite a difference between eating cooked food from a silver plate at room temp, or using cups, bowls, spoons etc in a similar fashion, also at tolerable temps than there is in cooking at foods at very high heats with silver frying pans ~ which is what Dan is alluding too. Were it practical, in theory to do so, there is no doubt that there would be historical evidence of people using silver for cookingwhen considering the time frames, one is generally talking about wealth that spared themse -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. -- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.0/275 - Release Date: 3/6/2006
Re: CSCS article
With the availability of more effective pharmacologic alternatives, physician-directed use of silver-containing products has significantly declined. However, recently many health-food manufacturers have promoted colloidal-silver-based products as cure-alls Gee, I wonder who's paying his bills? - Original Message - From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 10:24 AM Subject: CSCS article Comments on this article please. http://dermatology.cdlib.org/111/case_reports/argyria/wadhera.html __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.12/265 - Release Date: 2/20/2006
Re: CSCoffee cravings
I am one of Terry's clients. I make a smoothie with the Concentrace and nutritional yeast, in orange juice, and it's easy to add lots of loose or freshly ground cinnamon, along with non fat skim milk powder, flax seed, and sometimes a shot of expensive hemp oil. Also use this meal drink to down all the other supplements, like D, Chromium, magnesium, garlic oil, salmon oil, calcuim, B12, folic acid... I am not sure if it was Terry who indicated maybe I should give up coffee, but i did anyway. It was easy, even it I was a tims addict (canadian joke). This has been my regimen for two years now and the result is much lower blood pressure to the point where I am only on a cheap diuretic now instead of heavy and pricey BP meds. All blood tests have improved during this period. Well except for uric acid, for which I am now making Slackstone water, and don't know yet if it's effective. Oh, I almost forgot, the FIRST ingredient in the smoothie is several ounces of EIS/CS, that I make with Ode's wonderful silverpuppy. Terry makes these awesome capacity EIS/CS machines, and I may move up to that level of production soon. What a great list, I have learned so much here, Thanks all. esp. Mike for providing this fantastic forum... p.s. When I say client, well, Terry dosen't charge fees, just sells good nutritional products with little markup and no tax... His knowledge and research which he shares easily, is free. Even had VSOP (?) coconut oil last trip. Yum. Lagoon - Original Message - From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 5:33 PM Subject: CSCoffee cravings Cindy said, Now if I could only find something to reduce the cravings for coffee. Coffee cravings can be reduced by stabilizing your blood sugar. The craving for coffee is produced by the same dynamic as that which generates a sweet tooth: falling blood sugar. The standard nutritional approach is to eat every two hours. This doesn't mean a meal every two hours, but snacks of the appropriate foods - fruits and veggies, nuts, seeds, minimal grains (NOT bread, pastries, donuts, etc., whole grain or not). Protein works best to stabilize blood sugar. The medical approach is lots of meat, but few people have good enough digestion to handle meat all the time, unless they already have been doing that as a lifestyle (and not always then, either). One of the best alternatives to meat is nutritional yeast. I have seen excellent results with folks who work up to 3 heaping tblsp/day of nutritional yeast. I have been recommending this to my clients for over 30 years. 80% of my clients have told me that, within one to two weeks after they have reached the 3 tbsp/day level, their energy has doubled or tripled, they need less sleep and wake up more alert, have more endurance, better concentration, less fluctuation in moods. It is the single most effective substance I have ever used for stabilizing blood sugar. You can buy it in bulk at most HF stores. Now, please notice, I am NOT talking about brewers yeast. Brewers yeast will give the same benefits, but it is quite bitter. Nutritional yeast has a yeasty-nutty taste which many folks have grown to like (I am none of them). It can be spinkled on salads, put in stews and soups, on pop corn (really), mashed potatoes, etc., but the easiest way to ingest it is to stir it into juice. Some like fruit juice, some like V-8 type juices, experiment. Start off with one teaspoon in 4-6 oz/juice the first day, 2 tspn the second, 1 tblspn the third, 2 tblspns the fourth, 3 tblspns thereafter. It has all the B-vitamins and most of the minerals. It is the highest protein food you can eat, but it is 80% predigested. It actually improves digestion/regularity. For those of you who take Concentrace, put it into the juice you are putting yeast into and you cannot taste the Concentrace. If you have yeast infection, Candida, etc., I will say this: Half of my Candida clients can eat nutritional yeast freely, the other half can hardly look at it. Part of the reason for this is because there are a large number of yeast organisms that are all labeled Candida, and they don't all react to yeast in the same way. Supplements that help to stabilize blood sugar are 1,000 mcg/day of chromium (picolinate is most effective), vanadium (trace mineral), cinnamon in capsules - very effective. Two 00 capsules full of cinnamon with each meal have a noticeable affect. In the end, coffee addiction is like every addiction, and you may need help from your Higher Power. But the above suggestions will give you a distinct head start. Terry Chamberlin __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your
Re: CSCoffee cravings
Thanks, V, I have tried everything else and always looking for better ways to keep it down. I was told by an allopathic doc who kept loading me up on strongest meds that I was on my way to malignant hypertension. I have come a long way since then, but the fight will never be ignored. Well, I do drink beer almost every day, that is my ace. I can always use (drop) it if i get into dangerous levels again. That's one of the best descriptions of hypertention. And I did just go to the fridge for another big glass of H20 just now Ross - Original Message - From: V vzo...@yahoo.com To: Ross Craig silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:15 PM Subject: Re: CSCoffee cravings Hi Ross, Cure # 8: Water prevents and cures high blood pressure. Hypertension is a state of adaptation of the body to a generalized drought, when there is not enough water to fill all the blood vessels that diffuse water into vital cells. As part of the mechanism of reverse osmosis, when water from the blood serum is filtered and injected into important cells through minute holes in their membranes, extra pressure is needed for the injection process. Just as we inject I.V. water in hospitals, so the body injects water into tens of trillions of cells all at the same time. Water and some salt intake will bring blood pressure back to normal! http://www.curezone.com/foods/watercure.asp Take care, V I am one of Terry's clients. I make a smoothie with the Concentrace and nutritional yeast, in orange juice, and it's easy to add lots of loose or freshly ground cinnamon, along with non fat skim milk powder, flax seed, and sometimes a shot of expensive hemp oil. Also use this meal drink to down all the other supplements, like D, Chromium, magnesium, garlic oil, salmon oil, calcuim, B12, folic acid... I am not sure if it was Terry who indicated maybe I should give up coffee, but i did anyway. It was easy, even it I was a tims addict (canadian joke). This has been my regimen for two years now and the result is much lower blood pressure to the point where I am only on a cheap diuretic now instead of heavy and pricey BP meds. All blood tests have improved during this period. Well except for uric acid, for which I am now making Slackstone water, and don't know yet if it's effective. Oh, I almost forgot, the FIRST ingredient in the smoothie is several ounces of EIS/CS, that I make with Ode's wonderful silverpuppy. Terry makes these awesome capacity EIS/CS machines, and I may move up to that level of production soon. What a great list, I have learned so much here, Thanks all. esp. Mike for providing this fantastic forum... p.s. When I say client, well, Terry dosen't charge fees, just sells good nutritional products with little markup and no tax... His knowledge and research which he shares easily, is free. Even had VSOP (?) coconut oil last trip. Yum. Lagoon - Original Message - From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 5:33 PM Subject: CSCoffee cravings Cindy said, Now if I could only find something to reduce the cravings for coffee. Coffee cravings can be reduced by stabilizing your blood sugar. The craving for coffee is produced by the same dynamic as that which generates a sweet tooth: falling blood sugar. The standard nutritional approach is to eat every two hours. This doesn't mean a meal every two hours, but snacks of the appropriate foods - fruits and veggies, nuts, seeds, minimal grains (NOT bread, pastries, donuts, etc., whole grain or not). Protein works best to stabilize blood sugar. The medical approach is lots of meat, but few people have good enough digestion to handle meat all the time, unless they already have been doing that as a lifestyle (and not always then, either). One of the best alternatives to meat is nutritional yeast. I have seen excellent results with folks who work up to 3 heaping tblsp/day of nutritional yeast. I have been recommending this to my clients for over 30 years. 80% of my clients have told me that, within one to two weeks after they have reached the 3 tbsp/day level, their energy has doubled or tripled, they need less sleep and wake up more alert, have more endurance, better concentration, less fluctuation in moods. It is the single most effective substance I have ever used for stabilizing blood sugar. You can buy it in bulk at most HF stores. Now, please notice, I am NOT talking about brewers yeast. Brewers yeast will give the same benefits, but it is quite bitter. Nutritional yeast has a yeasty-nutty taste which many folks have grown to like (I am none of them). It can be spinkled on salads, put in stews and soups, on pop corn (really), mashed potatoes, etc., but the easiest way to ingest it is to stir it into juice. Some like fruit juice, some like V-8
Re: CSRe Cs:Vit.D for Skin cancer/Osteoporosis/MS
Thought I was doing enough with 1000 units a day. Thanks Harold, and I am already sharing that URL... now upping my own daily dose of D .. - Original Message - From: Harold MacDonald To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 10:16 PM Subject: CSRe Cs:Vit.D for Skin cancer/Osteoporosis/MS Go to this site re Vitamin D.It runs for about an hour and has excellent info re cancers,besides other malignant diseases. http://www.insinc.com/onlinetv/directms13oct2005/softvnetplayer.htm Good health to you. Harold -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.10/188 - Release Date: 11/29/2005
Re: CS
Terry, you have obviously done a lot of research and thinking on this matter of what to call what we do. It's important, particularly (sic) when we are talking to others and trying to tell them about the benefits and simplicity of using silver for their health. The term CS or Colloidal Silver, or trying to explain EIS starts it's own topic and little is learned. I vote for Nanosilver since it's so easy to accept and the tests are online about it in more than one place. It's a great way to initiate newcomers to Silver Mike, how about a vote from the list to see if we can all agree on a single description of what we make. Now, would that be Nanosilver, Nanosilver water, Nanosilver in a bottle, or what? - Original Message - From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 5:14 PM Subject: CS Langsley said, In the case of EIS or ionic silver the ion has lost one electron resulting in a positive charge. Hence, ions of silver are one atom of silver minus one electron. They measure 0.000252 microns/micrometers across. Their size does not vary. Technically ions are not particles of silver, those, in our context, are colloids. We are not talking about a colloid but an ionic solution. Therefore the term particles, though convenient, does not really apply. Actually, we need to be using commonly-accepted scientific terms so that we do not speak our own proprietary language which a normal scientific professional would not understand nor agree with. You said, Technically, ions are not particles of silver. those are colloids. But ions ARE particles if we use the scientific definitions. Notice: http://physics.tamuk.edu/~hewett/ModPhy1/Unit2/Duality/ParticlesWaves/Particles/Particles.html 1. Properties of Particles: position, velocity, mass, electric charge, spin, color, momentum, energy, etc. 2. Classical particle: An object of negligible size and structure compared to all other distances pertaining to the physical situation. 3. Fundamental particle (or ideal particle): A point-like perturbation or local disturbance in space that retains its identity for an extended period of time. Also notice: ion An ion is an atom or group of atoms in which the number of electrons is different from the number of protons. If the number of electrons is less than the number of protons, the particle is a positive ion, also called a cation. If the number of electrons is greater than the number of protons, the particle is a negative ion, also called an anion. A compound, as well as individual atom, can be ionized. A common example is nitrate, which consists of a nitrogen atom and 3 oxygen atoms (NO3) in the form of an anion; this is symbolized NO3- because it normally has a surplus of a single electron. http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,289893,sid9_gci859894,00.html So silver-nitrate is ionic, yet it causes argyria. I recognize that in the past we have attempted to differentiate between silver particles in suspension and those in solution by calling the first colloids/particles and the second ions. But, using the standard definition of a particle, ions are also particles. You stated about ions, that, They measure 0.000252 microns/micrometers across. Their size does not vary. How did you arrive at this definition? Is this a fact accepted by standard scientific usage? Please provide references. Based on standard scientific definitions, I would have to disagree with the above definition of an ion. This does not enable us to clearly differentiate between one size and another size of silver particle. We want to be able to easily refer to the action of silver when it is smaller than a certain size (smaller than a colloid) because we are convinced that there is no danger of any kind from silver particles of this size. The term, colloidal silver, technically, not surprisingly, refers only to a genuine colloid. That is, particles of silver suspended in a liquid, generally distilled water. Now, particles in a colloid can and do really vary in size. These particles are typically in the range of .001 to .100 micrometers, orders of magnitude larger than ions. But we recognize that every colloidal particle has a charge. This is part of what holds it in suspension. Each particle, having the same charge, repels every other particle like the two positive ends of two magnets repel each other. We further understand that when a colloidal particle loses its charge it falls out of suspension or aggregates to another particle. So, in fact, every colloidal particle is also an ion. These two words, ions and colloids (or particles), are entirely inadequate to distinguish between large and small silver particles. When we use the word, *ionic*, we usually mean particles even smaller than colloids, even too small to refract light (a silver solution that has no Tyndall effect is considered to be
CSis the secret finally getting out?
stuff and Frank Key have posted same and similar links to this important info, but so far no one has talked about these tests yet. I would like to know what the experts here think of our silvergen/silverpuppy EIS compared to these nanoparticles they have proved kill viruses such as HIV and MRSA http://www.physorg.com/news7264.html
Re: CSGlass vs plastic
My DMSO from Jeffers comes in plastic bottles. DMSO freezes about 67 F so it could break a glass container pretty quick. don't think it would do anything else to the glass but why use something that could break ? - Original Message - From: JS Campbell campbe...@members.v21.co.uk To: Terry Chamberlin silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 6:16 AM Subject: Re: CSGlass vs plastic Thanks very much for posting this. Do you know has any work been done on the storage of DMSO in glass versus plastic. With DMSO's properties is it safe to store it in plastic? perhaps if it is PET type hard plastic it is OK. Would glass not be the safer option for DMSO? With thanks in advance, Sheila Tuesday, September 20, 2005, 10:17:42 PM, you wrote: TC Please notice this: Very interesting! TC http://www.asapsolution.com/testresults.html TC Silver in Glass vs. Plastic Containers TC January 1, 2004 TC Non-Toxicity Test TC In order to insure not only the best product, but also TC a safe product, American Biotech Labs hired an TC independent laboratory to do a toxicology study on the TC ASAP Solution. The test, called an LD-50 test, was TC performed in accordance with the guidelines of the TC Federal Hazardous Substances Act (FHSA) Regulations, TC 16 CFR 1500. TC In the test work, the ASAP Solution was given to a TC number of both male and female test rats. The amount TC of ASAP Solution given to the rats was 5g/kg, or the TC equivalent of a 200 pound man taking 192 teaspoons of TC about 4 full 8 ounce bottles of the ASAP 10ppm TC solution at one time (the normal adult dosage is one TC or two teaspoons/day). TC As a result of the test work, the independent TC laboratory made the following conclusion, Under the TC conditions of this study, there was no mortality or TC significant evidence of toxicity observed in the rats. TC The test article (ASAP Solution) would not be TC considered toxic at a dose of 5g/kg by oral route in TC the rat. TC American Biotech Labs Safety Data TC American Biotech Labs has had five independent safety TC and toxicity tests completed on its 10 and 22 PPM TC silver products. The American Biotech Labs product was TC tested in animals at as much as 200 times the normal TC adult dosage, or the equivalent of an adult consuming TC 32 full ounces of the 10 ppm product at one sitting. TC In conclusion to the animal tests, the independent TC medical testing laboratory stated that the ASAP TC Solution® was found to be completely non-toxic to the TC test animals. The product was also tested for TC cytotoxicity in both human epithelial cells and also TC African green monkey or Vero cells, at both the TC regular 10 ppm level and also at the extra-strength 22 TC ppm level. In all four cytotoxicity tests the TC Amreican Biotech Labs' products were found completely TC non-toxic to both the human and Vero cells. TC Silver in Glass vs. Plastic Containers TC Introduction TC A great deal of controversy has arisen in the market TC place on the question of whether it is better to store TC silver solutions in glass versus plastic containers. TC There is a misconception that has prevailed in the TC market place that glass is better. The idea that TC glass containers are better for storing products which TC contain silver has never been proven scientifically. TC In fact, it has been reported in other studies that TC glass may have a detrimental effect on silver TC products. TC Test Work TC I have been conducting biological studies for 3 years, TC in the laboratory of a major private institution, on TC the use of silver products to kill and inhibit the TC growth of bacteria. I have conducted thousands of TC tests on numerous strains of pathogenic bacteria. In TC the testing I have completed, I have used both glass TC (5 ml glass test tubes) and plastic (Falcon 5 ml TC polypropylene plastic test tubes). In some of the test TC work we found that there was a difference in the TC amount of silver that was needed to kill the bacteria TC when glass was used versus plastic test tubes. In TC order to make sure this was the case, it was decided TC that the MIC tests (Minimum Inhibitory Concentration) TC should be replicated by more than one person and a TC direct comparison was made. The MIC tests were TC performed in triplicate in both 5 ml 13X100mm glass TC test tubes and 5 ml Falcon polypropylene plastic test TC tubes. Results of the bacterial (MIC) tests showed TC that Staphylococcus aureus was inhibited at 2.5 ppm TC when the MIC test was performed in the plastic test TC tubes. S. aureus was inhibited at 5 ppm when the MIC TC test was performed in glass test tubes. This TC suggested that the material with which the test tubes TC were made, specifically glass or plastic, may have TC effected the results of the MIC test. Numerous other TC tests were also completed using larger concentrations
Re: CSRe CSaspirin
Terry Chamberlain would tell you that Dr Carey Reames said that whenever you take an aspirin, you bleed somewhere - Original Message - From: Jim Holmes To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 11:54 PM Subject: RE: CSRe CSaspirin What are the causes? -Original Message- From: Harold MacDonald [mailto:har...@telus.net] Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 9:25 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe CSaspirin I just read from a health journal that approx. 45,000 people a year die due to the use of aspirin. H. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.0/103 - Release Date: 9/15/2005
Re: CSSlackstone
Yup, please put me on the list alsoi have 10% heart valve calcification (stenosis they call it) so I am ready to try slackstoneThe doc says wait till it gets really bad then we can put in a new valve, no worries mate and with taking CS daily to combat the new deposits through nanobactiera, maybe this can be fought Lagoon - Original Message - From: Rowena To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 10:03 AM Subject: Re: CSSlackstone For those interested, I have made arrangements with this company to be the Canadian representative. They have just gone on vacation, so I will have the rest of the info I need to fill orders when they get back. If I get enough orders, I will price them like a co-op, where the price goes down according to the number of orders that come in. Good on yer, Terry - and congratulations. I wouldn't mind doing the same for Australia! Or if anyone else wants to be the rep in Oz, I will be your first customer! Rowena -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.5/67 - Release Date: 8/9/2005
Re: CSNanobacteria, Calcification Heart Disease
Interesting would be understatementIf this is all true, and nanobacteria cause all calcification and all the diseases that go with it, can EIS kill it? Could one prevent petrifying calcification with a few ounces of EIS daily? - Original Message - From: Sandee George To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 8:35 PM Subject: CSNanobacteria, Calcification Heart Disease Thought this might interest the group REgards to all Sandee The one who accomplished it is the one who failed to realize that he could not do it. Click here: NEXUS: Nanobacteria, Calcification Heart Disease -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.2/65 - Release Date: 8/7/2005
Re: CSRe: Essay on Reality
- Original Message - From: cmccau...@kayescholer.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 12:39 PM Subject: CSRe: Essay on Reality Ode, as usual, I super enjoy reading your posts. Very deep and really cool. Christine Mc. Big Amen here too -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS
kinda thought CS would not be in any answer, sorry Mike, but i KNEW this great list would come up with the answers. i like this best: This suggests that a regular spray of leftover coffee, which tends to have a caffeine content of about 0.1 to 0.05 percent, might control nighttime crop losses in the garden. Lagoon - Original Message - From: Dan Nave dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 10:37 AM Subject: CS http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20020629/food.asp Slugging It Out with Caffeine Janet Raloff Anyone who has raised tomatoes in a moist environment knows the tell-tale sign: Overnight, a ripe, juicy orb sustains a huge, oozing wound. If you arrive early, you might catch the dastardly culprit: a slug. In one test, scientists sprayed soil with dilute caffeine and then watched as slugs, like this one, made haste to get away. Hollingsworth/ARS Who would have thought that a defense was as close as your coffee cup? Federal scientists have discovered that the same chemical that provides the pick-me-up in a cup of java is a deadly turn-off to snails and slugs. Caffeine renders their food unpalatable. Applied to their soil, the stimulant causes snails and slugs to writhe uncontrollably. At the proper dose, these mollusks succumb to the neurotoxin fairly quickly. The discovery emerged in greenhouse experiments by Agricultural Research Service scientists in Hilo, Hawaii. As the wettest city in the United States, it's slug heaven, observes Robert G. Hollingsworth, who led a series of caffeine experiments reported in the June 27 Nature. For each trial, he mined 50 to 100 slugs from the field*aka his backyard. But why caffeine? Earl Campbell, now with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, and his ARS colleagues stumbled on this anti-slug measure while looking for a pesticide to eradicate noisy frogs. Because there are frogs The Hawaiian Islands evolved in the absence of amphibians and reptiles. However, some 40 different species of these nonnatives have taken up permanent residency on at least a few of the state's lush islands. They arrived through trade, stops by tourist vessels, and the deliberate release of pets. Two of the more recent and troublesome of these aliens are tiny Caribbean frogs from the same genus. Though both are noisy, the species Eleutherodactylus coqui has become especially vexing. Its mating calls, which can go on all night*and year-round in low-lying areas*reach 90 decibels, the volume of barking dogs and vacuum cleaners. The Occupational Safety and Health Administration requires that workers wear hearing protectors when noise averages 85 decibels or higher. At that volume, sustained exposures can produce irreversible hearing loss. In parts of Hawaii since the mid 1980s, this volume has become typical of backyard coqui choruses. So, while amphibian populations throughout much of the world are declining or becoming extinct, mushrooming populations of Hawaii's frogs have become not only a public nuisance but also an ecological nightmare. The situation puts state and federal biologists charged with safeguarding Hawaii's environment in the uncomfortable position of targeting healthy populations of cute frogs for execution. After working their way through soaps, surfactants, and off-the-shelf pesticides*all without antifrog effects*Campbell's group started to evaluate products in the grocery store, including acetaminophen (Tylenol) and cigarette nicotine. We had very poor results with almost all of these, Campbell told Science News Online. Finally, his team tried a caffeine-rich anti-sleep preparation. It was the only thing that worked at a legal [label's recommended] level, Campbell says. When field trials established its promise, the researchers petitioned the Environmental Protection Agency for an emergency exemption to use caffeine against Hawaii's coqui and greenhouse (E. planirostris) frogs. Provisional permission came through last November. Preliminary, targeted eradication and control programs are now set to begin within the next few months. It was during early evaluation of caffeine's potential that the researchers applied a dilute concentration of the compound to the soil in greenhouses where many frogs were holed up. At once, Campbell noticed that slugs began surfacing and dying. That interested Hollingsworth, an entomologist studying pests of ornamental plants, such as potted orchids and anthuriums. Small snails have proven a bane to orchid growers, he notes. Though they don't hurt the blooms, some of these shelled slugs chew away at roots, loosening the plants' anchor. So, Hollingsworth launched tests of various concentrations of dilute caffeine against those orchid snails, known as Zonitoides arboreus, and that local garden denizen, the two-striped slug (Veronicella cubensis). The tests showed what plants around the globe had
CSCS Question
well i don't know if CS will help to get rid of slugs or not but i thought if i asked here i might find a solution... i don't like the toxic stuff and the pellets don't work very well...
CSRep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, a CAFTA opponent, says........
Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, a CAFTA opponent, says the deal circumvents the Constitution: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45269
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Re: CSIt's probably time...
1800jeffers.com they have DMSO in 16 oz bottles, roll ons and a gel.. pet supplies, of course... - Original Message - From: marmar...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 12:33 AM Subject: Re: CSIt's probably time... In a message dated 5/21/04 4:15:48 PM Central Daylight Time, ross.cr...@ns.sympatico.ca writes: used the roll on directly, as soon as i felt the pain Used the *roll on* what? DMSO? Comes in a roll on? MA
Re: CSIt's probably time...
i just have to butt in and say, Garnet, well done the trolls have provoked you to show your best thinking today, i neutralized an otherwise week long painful and itching lump, from my first black fly bite of the yearusually my worst... used the roll on directly, as soon as i felt the pain 10 minutes later...no pain, big bump, and no rash, even though it was full strength... 30 min later bump gone... i did another bite afterward with a CS/DMSO 50/50 mix and it's gone too... what a great list.(s) While I have respect for double blind studies I am much more inclined to put the most faith in my own personal experience. Generally I start there and then look for validation in others experiences and in journal articles. However the journal articles often lag behind the personal experiences by many years and in some cases hundreds of years. Strictly speaking science is observation and requires no double blind studies. If it did we would be tossing thousands of accepted medical precepts accumulated over centuries of observation. Part of the problem with viral studies is in defining dead and alive. In rereading Goodman and Gilman's section on anti-viral agents in becomes clear that this line is not clear when it comes to viruses. Terms used in reference to viral affects are not dead or kill, they are inhibit, uncoat, intereferes with viral replication through affects on the RNA or DNA processes and structures and similar descriptions of activity. It becomes clear that the issue of virucidal as regards any anti-viral agent is as much a matter of semantics and definition of terms as it is of actual demonstration of effects. DMSO is known to uncoat viruses. It is also known to stop viral symptoms. It would appear this is as close as anyone is going to get in defining its action against virues. And is a widely accepted level of knowledge from which to go forth with therapeutic applications in the absence of toxicity. DMSO has zero toxicity in therapeutic applications and indeed requires inhalation of vapors upon boiling to some 370* or consumption of 40,000 times the therapeutic dose, a highly unlikely occurence. It has one of the safest therapeutic indexes (Therapeutic Dose divided by the Lethal Dose in 50%) of any agent out there. Stedman's Medical Dictionary 22nd Ed defines virucidal and viricidal as destructive to a virus. With this definition in mind as well as the terminology used by the standard in Clinical Therapeutics, Goodman and Gilman, I believe the issue of discussing DMSO's ability to kill viruses in vivo (in the body) is hampered by the current concepts of alive or dead formed from knowledge of other life forms. I would also remind those with high levels of curiosity as to the mechansims of action of DMSO that many agents are still a mystery to us. That does not stop use from using them for situations where we get positive results. I stated that DMSO kills viruses. I stand by that statement. Garnet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPsoriasis
WoW davido, the fonts you use are certainly stimulating.so, i thank you for those links and now will do the research however, it is my good friend's problem, and he is a max type A personality and it would be hard to get him to even treat the symptoms topically, if it takes more than three seconds he figures, since the affected areas drastically shrink when he goes south for a type A sailing vacaction...that he only needs to work harder to get enough money to do it all the time i know the psoriasis is only a symptom, but it will be a helluva time convincing him of that... he does not listen to many ppl as you can see, but i have a better chance than his wife of getting through to him so she is on my side too, to get him some help thanks for all the posts ross - Original Message - From: David S Osborne To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 10:41 AM Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis ross ..this is an internal problem!! Topical applications are of minimal, shortterm bene. first and foremost importance is internal cleansing!!2nd is DIET. find someone in your area certified in COLONICS set up a schedule for one a week [no less], skip for a couple weeks and then get a couple more. On Dr John's site below, a different schedule may be suggested; I strongly suggest you do what Dr John suggests and stick to it!~ go here: This address is for Dr. John Pagano [DC i believe] Dr John is the expert on curing Psoraisis, and hi on the list of dear-souls in the planet. http://www.psoriasis-healing.com/ davido On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 16:17:03 -0300 Ross Craig ross.cr...@ns.sympatico.ca writes: Does anyone have any info or experience on CS treatment for psoriasis? ross i did look in the archives and found nothing there.
CSPsoriasis
Does anyone have any info or experience on CS treatment for psoriasis? ross i did look in the archives and found nothing there.
Re: CS? for Terry Chamberlain re: Magnetic Pulser
- Original Message - From: Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 7:48 PM Subject: RE: CS? for Terry Chamberlain re: Magnetic Pulser Just a thought. If the Sota Magnetic Pulser doubles as a CS maker, nope, it's the silver pulser that does double duty as a cs makerthe mag pulsar is just that, a magnetic device, just got mine today, a very nice unit, can't wait to get sore again... just kidding, but one treatment from terry's (older model than mine) hastened my recovery from what i call an echo episode... that is when i get the same pain in my cocyx for a couple weeks that i did when i had the accident. 40 years ago... the kind where you can't stand up without holding onto something, and take the mechanics of a bedpan seriously. and, to continue to gross you, when you stop eating anything but protein, so you don't need to actually sit anywhere the mag pulser brought me back faster than before, and i now look forward to use it immediately opon next onset but next time i will have it when i really need it, at the beginning... like cs, we need to have faith in our own bodies, and the modalities we are using, to keep it self sufficient... i think magnetic therapy, like CS, belongs in everyone's arsenal against incompetant and insufficient and outrageously expensive remedies, with large profits to the stakeholders (don't u love that term, stakeholders)? ... ross could a CS maker double as a zapper. ed -Original Message- Terry, I believe you mentioned something about being able to get the Sota Magnetic Pulser shipped directly from them but for a lower price? I'm thinking of getting one and would be interested in knowing what price you could get that for. Thanks, 'Ted' -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.230 / Virus Database: 262.6.7 - Release Date: 4/5/2004 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.600 / Virus Database: 381 - Release Date: 2/28/2004
Re: CSSilver For Infected Tooth
yes, i have , recently i broke a tooth in august and had it repaired... but the cold and heat sensitivity lasted for months and occaasionly when eating enthusiastically it would flare up... this went on till christmas eve day, and my face blew up like a baloon, accompanied with lots of pain... called my dentist and he perscribed clyndamysin, (one of the most powerful antibiotics) so i got that and read that one of the side effects, besides internal distress, was death, i decided to try CS instead and it worked... by the nest morning, christmas day, pain and swelling was 95% gone and i enjoyed a great meal... by next day, it was if it never happened... my dentist tapped on the tooth with a steel rod a few times and when i didn't wince determined there was no infection there he could detect and it is almost april now, and i can eat with that tooth (a molar) as if it never had a problem what i did was swig it like beer all day, but not swallow till i had to so easy hope this helps... btw my dentist would not charge me for the checkup, as he wanted to see for himself what CS could do ross - Original Message - From: joy P joyph...@webtv.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 7:02 PM Subject: CSSilver For Infected Tooth I was wondering if anyone has used silver for an infected tooth? I simply cannot take antibiotics!...Phyl -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.600 / Virus Database: 381 - Release Date: 2/28/2004 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSdisappointed
i have been trying to convince my sister the uses and benefits of cs, but she has this problem that keeps her from trying. i convinced her to subscribe to the list and ask her question. she did, and received no reply and has already unsubscribed. her question was; is cs safe for one who has been confirmed to have HH (hemochromotosis). it is a defect in 2 genes that cause the inhibition of iron elimination from the body, resulting in myriad disorders relating to the breakdown of organs due to buildup in cells of toxic iron levels... is there no one here with such expertise? thank you, ross craig --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.600 / Virus Database: 381 - Release Date: 2/28/2004
Re: CSClifton Mining Co Stock
- Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 11:17 AM Subject: Re: CSClifton Mining Co Stock That the sale of 3 million gallons of CS would affect the price of a silver mining stock shows just how little investors can think for themselves. If we assume that this is 10 PPM CS, then that works out to 384 ounces of silver they will sell to make it, and at $6 and ounce that is a grand total gross of under $2400, with a profit of under $1000. Yet the valuation of the stock rose by millions of dollars on this news. No wonder most investors lose money. Marshall Marshall, trouble is you are only considering the silver base cost... point is that clifton owns 28% of american biotech labs, and at the price they get for that asap solution, well the stock should definetly show stellar profits... with such a low cost, as you pointed outso both companies could show windfall profits on a 3 million whatever sale also that if asap continues to sell well, they will always have a reliable, cheap source for more source product, silver, by the parent company being a miner... jmvho, i am not yet an investor yet, but still looking at it.. the patents, however flimsy, do mean something... i mean, here we are, talking about how to use/make colloidal silver, and the many ways you can help yourselves, and friends and animals with, and here is a company that is actually going to be able to make legal big dealsdamm the antibiotic pill producersand their iron clad patents for big $$ per serving... i say things are looking up cs will be mainstream in a few years, for all kinds of uses... ross The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.600 / Virus Database: 381 - Release Date: 2/28/2004 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS5 days for Malaria
their (american biotech labs) patent is justified on only that they were the better performing product than the others they tested at brigham young university... the significance is that CS will no longer be an unknown, scary, grey skin producing, fad, supported only by health nutbars. they have a licence to sell it offically through many channels now. but at $4 oz for 10 ppm, and $6 an oz for 22 ppm, there's gonna be a big homebrew market opening up ross - Original Message - From: William Meyer To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 9:33 AM Subject: Re: CS5 days for Malaria amazing ode! this report is essentially well made home colloidal silver! this is big verification of it's effectiveness in a more official form. On Feb 28, 2004, at 7:45 AM, Ode Coyote wrote: Patented -- no other like it -- accept no substitute. According to independent lab tests...it's exactly like what you any nearly everyone else makes. http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/cpr06/cpr_06.html Ode At 05:22 PM 2/27/2004 +0100, you wrote: http://www.silversolution.us/http://www.silversolution.us/ Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands - Original Message - From: mailto:robert.j.medw...@us.army.milMedwith, Robert To: mailto:'silver-list@eskimo.com''silver-list@eskimo.com' Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 4:03 PM Subject: RE: CS5 days for Malaria What is ASAP Solution are they talking about CS Bob -Original Message- From: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.comsilver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On Behalf Of William Meyer Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 9:39 AM To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS5 days for Malaria what is notable here is that no mining company can profit from homeopathic silver. so, this has nothing to do with mining profits. it is a different idea. On Feb 27, 2004, at 8:25 AM, Ross Craig wrote: Clifton Mining Company - New Human Study Data Released ALPINE, UT, Feb. 27 /CNW/ - Clifton Mining Company (Clifton)(OTC:CFTN) American Biotech Labs (a private company in which Clifton, the largest shareholder is releasing new human study data on use of the ASAP Solution in west African hospitals, against a number of human ailments including malaria and a viral infections. New Human Studies American Biotech Labs (ABL) has been working in conjunction with four hospitals in West Africa that have been conducting human studies of the ASAP product as a antibiotic alternative against human ailments like malaria, fungal infections, ear infections, measles, septic ulcers and a number of serious viral problems. This is the second set of human studies released by the west African hospitals. The new studies found the product effective against all the above ailments. In conjunction with the human studies, the country of Ghana has approved the ASAP supplement product as a homeopathic drug. Malaria The past ASAP human malarial studies found the product effective in all of the cases averaging only five days of treatment to full recovery. This new study has taken the testing to a new level checking the blood of patients deemed fully recovered to see if any signs of the parasites remain in the bloodstream. According to the data in the studies, the patients showed absolutely no malarial protozoans left in the bloodstream. Over 900 million people are estimated to have this disease, many in poor countries. Said Keith Moeller, VP, Evidence is steadily mounting that we may be able to help millions of people who are suffering from this disease. It is also exciting to see the first human studies in which the product is being used as a treatment for people who suffer from serious viral infections. Testing of the ASAP product continues in the African hospitals, as well as in numerous other facilities worldwide. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG
CS5 days for Malaria
hello truth seekersi think this is really really big news and is the start of a new wave for CS. ross gotta get some of those shares too Attention Business Editors: Clifton Mining Company - New Human Study Data Released ALPINE, UT, Feb. 27 /CNW/ - Clifton Mining Company (Clifton)(OTC:CFTN) American Biotech Labs (a private company in which Clifton, the largest shareholder is releasing new human study data on use of the ASAP Solution in west African hospitals, against a number of human ailments including malaria and a viral infections. New Human Studies American Biotech Labs (ABL) has been working in conjunction with four hospitals in West Africa that have been conducting human studies of the ASAP product as a antibiotic alternative against human ailments like malaria, fungal infections, ear infections, measles, septic ulcers and a number of serious viral problems. This is the second set of human studies released by the west African hospitals. The new studies found the product effective against all the above ailments. In conjunction with the human studies, the country of Ghana has approved the ASAP supplement product as a homeopathic drug. Malaria The past ASAP human malarial studies found the product effective in all of the cases averaging only five days of treatment to full recovery. This new study has taken the testing to a new level checking the blood of patients deemed fully recovered to see if any signs of the parasites remain in the bloodstream. According to the data in the studies, the patients showed absolutely no malarial protozoans left in the bloodstream. Over 900 million people are estimated to have this disease, many in poor countries. Said Keith Moeller, VP, Evidence is steadily mounting that we may be able to help millions of people who are suffering from this disease. It is also exciting to see the first human studies in which the product is being used as a treatment for people who suffer from serious viral infections. Testing of the ASAP product continues in the African hospitals, as well as in numerous other facilities worldwide. Copies Of The Study Copies of the second set of the human studies will be released today and will be made available upon request. Clifton trades on the U.S. OTC: (CFTN). Note: Any statements released by Clifton Mining Company that are forward looking are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Editors and investors are cautioned that forward looking statements invoke risk and uncertainties that may affect the company's business prospects and performance. ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.574 / Virus Database: 364 - Release Date: 1/29/2004
Re: CSSalt
- Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 1:11 PM Subject: Re: CSSalt Theoretically salt intake can increase blood pressure temporarily. If you look at the physics of osmosis than if the salt content of the blood increases suddenly, two things will happen. First you will get thirsty and drink something. This is the body's way of quickly decreasing the salt concentration in the blood. Second, water will be drawn out of the cells. You can see this effect by putting salt on a slug, it will basically desiccate it. Both of these increase the amount of fluid in the circulatory system, with a resulting increase in blood pressure. But the kidneys will rather quickly remove the excess salt, and you should be back where you started after a short time. Marshall hello marshall, does it follow then, that if you are thirsty, or perhaps dehydrated in a more general basis, that you could expext blood pressure to be higher? i am searching for all knowledge i can find about causes of hbp, and yes i am googling on it all the time for new info i wonder if anyone knows of a list that has the expertise of this one, that may be dedicated to it? ross Garnet wrote: Salt has never caused high blood pressure. When I was in grad school in the late 70's it was known that it would lower high BP to lower salt intake, but that it was not the cause. Anyone who tells you it is must not be looking at the raw data. smile Garnet On Thu, 2004-02-12 at 00:45, Wayne Fugitt wrote: bodies by taking 1 gram of salt and 1 gram of vit C at the same time.12 times a day.and they have some pretty remarkable pictures on the website..waiting to hear from you. I read most of it and looked at the pictures. Fantastic ! I wish I could get some pictures that good with my microscope. In addition, I was delighted to find some support for my ideas on salt. Even Adelle Davis was in favor of more salt. She stated that it was a mistake to take glaucoma patients off salt. She said that in every case, they improved when salt was added back to the diet. The Water Cure doctor, Batmanghelidj stated we need 2000 or 2500 mg of salt per day. I weighed out this amount, put it in small vials, and keep salt in my truck, backpack, and range box. I have never been able to ingest as much as he suggested. I believe that we have been told many lies about salt by the mainstream. I suppose it is too cheap to be considered a medicine. Yet I think it is valuable to some people. All the crap about salt and blood pressure is a lie ! I have read that salt can have a bad effect on 50 % of the people. So, what about the other half? maybe it has a favorable effect on many functions. I have experienced that salt will remove pressure in the eyes in seconds. While I have not had a true headache in years, at rare times, I feel a pressure in the eyes. not severe by any means, but it reminds me of the days when I had an occasional headache. I sure don't want one of those again. I have not researched this a lot, but the salt will relieve the pressure within 30 to 45 seconds. We need to research this more. I would try the salt and vitamin C for a time, but I don't know what I would accomplish, other than prove it is not harmful. Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com / --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.574 / Virus Database: 364 - Release Date: 1/30/2004
Re: CS Trace Minerals
hello all...i am delurkingbeen reading for weeks but this is the first thing to offer... i am one of terry chamberlain's clients and i have been taking the concentrace, with wonderful results, and i have never tasted it.. yes, terry says it's terrible so i didn't try... what i do is mix it into a drink, sometimes a big smoothie with lots of good things in itor if i just want to be quick, a 6 oz glass of v8 juice, with a couple tablespoons of yeast it seems to be the yeast that covers the taste, so if you add it to almost any drink, you will never taste it again... cheers ross from nova scotia.. - Original Message - From: patriot2...@mindspring.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 5:21 AM Subject: CS Trace Minerals To Del, who wrote: Are the minerals in Concentrace from organic or inorganic sources? I am trying this product now, and I find it difficult to take because it is so salty tasting - like drinking sea water. I have to take it in juice or it turns my stomach, and I am only taking 1/4 teaspoon at a time.. Am I the only one to have this problem with it? No, you are not the only person with that problem. My husband can't take it, because it literally turns his stomach. I gulp down about a quarter tsp. in an ounce or two of orange juice, and the stuff still takes awful. Quick chaser of just orange juice cleans my palate quite effectively, however. I think the product is great. I feel better since taking it. I think the horse sized pills of multi minerals I used to take were probably virtually worthless. They crumbled down to a pile of crumbs in water, but didn't dissolve, so I think they probably weren't assimilable in my body, either. The company rep at my health food store was demonstrating its conductivity compared to some other products as part of his sales pitch. Concentrace sure lit up the lights! I recommend trying it, regardless of the taste. Maybe I feel better because of the CS I am taking, but probably the Concentrace helps, too. Marlys -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.574 / Virus Database: 364 - Release Date: 1/29/2004
