Comfrey
Apologies to all and sundry. I'm not going to have time to send the comfrey before leaving for vacation. Not only do we have our plate full with vacation/disease/mother, but I just bankrupted us on the commodities market. Oh, well. . . . Things happen as they should. Since I've just unsubscribed till we get back from vacation, I wanted you my friends to know that I'll miss your sage counsel and keen wit. I also am aware of and deeply appreciate your tears and prayers on our account. Thanks for all the private Emails and all the light sent our way. We are trying to be considerate of our server, so please save any responses after today (Aug. 4) till after Aug. 19. Yours, Wil Cavanaugh Chuck Sanders -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS response
Yes, Debbie. I have that feeling often. And I noticed when Bob Beck drank some on his lecture tape, he began clearing his throat like he had that same (dull ache?) that I have. wil -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Dameon
Has anyone heard from Dameon lately? Since I'm just skimming mainly on weekends, perhaps I've just missed him. wil -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Color
I seem to fixate on the inane. Here are terms that have been bandied about, which have caught my attention: golden, amber, cloudy, sludge, and I'm sure there are many other adjectives not on the tip of my mind. There was some discussion about stirring, also. Now, I was slightly taken to task over using my 12V-DC, 1 amp generator. I give y'all a further chance to examine me. My water is from an aquifer that is virtually mineral-free. It is shipped all over the world (not from my well, of course.) It has no taste whatever, and is neither soft nor hard. That's my beginning point. I make my CS in a clear gallon pickle jar usually. I let it make for about an hour. There is absolutely no sediment, and never a need to stir-- the cloud floats from the wire. When the hour is up, the CS in the jar has a lavender cast. I pour it in a standard clear glass and it is crystalline. Btw, the water in the picle jar does not have this lavender cast until the CS is made. Anything wrong with this picture, my gurus? Here's my belief: My silver's particle size is extremely small. It floats, and does not come out of suspension even after days, unless I have over-saturated the water by leaving the brew going too long. (After two hours, it does precipitate out, but only a very light film at the bottom less than the thickness of the cheapest plastic wrap.) Another thing: Remember the brain chatter I had complained of? My first few doses of this stuff caused me noticeable (not profound) dizziness which passed within 5 minutes or so. The chatter is gone. Could this have gone beyond the brain barrier? If it is small enough, I don't know why not. Anyone with enlightenment out there? I know, it's like a doctor not wanting to make a diagnosis over the phone. Nonetheless, some of you know more in a minute than some of us could figure out in a year (he said, with not a trace of sarcasm-- just stating the truth.) That lavender cast must ring a bell in one of you. Conjecture, if you wish. Wil C. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Off Topic: Shingles
I send this to bjs. He asked that I share it with the list. We use lots of alternatives, and I'm not completely comfortable putting it out there for other eyes, but when bjs asks me for something, he can be very convincing. I don't recommend anything to anyone most of the time. But if you want anecdotes, we have a satchel full. XMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXMXM We have no problem at all with shingles. Chuck, his father, and his grandmother all have had shingles. His grandmother developed them about 3 or 4 years ago and still has them. Chuck used Zovirax for his (they were in his eye,) and it did NOTHING. The danger that he'd soon be blind was large. He started rectally insufflating ozone, and they healed within 2 or 3 days. When his father came down with them 3 or so weeks ago, he asked to come over and use the ozone machine. His had not even broken through the skin when he began the ozone. They broke through immediately after his first treatment, and dried up within a week. Chuck's face has continued to itch for the 2 years since the shingles until he started splashing his face and the area over the ganglia where the shingles reside with CS. Maybe it's psychosomatic, but he doesn't itch. We'll take it!! Whatever the cause!! Wil C. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: PLEASE READ: (plus comfrey)
Mike, Thanks for keeping the moderate in moderator. btw, I was supposed to have been unsubscribed. Since I wasn't, I gratefully read what I can and pretend I'm unsubscribed with the rest. We're really a bunch of opinionated hotheads, aren't we? However, I'm whelmed that each is harnessing his heat to produce such beneficial power; even more amazed that when we are flamed it just makes us brighter; and there is never any lack of respect snicker. Till next time--- Wil with a ps below I haven't forgot to mail comfrey to those who requested it. With Mother's cancer, and Chuck's having some problems, and life's normal challenges, I have not taken the time. Two of you I have addresses for, but have lost the third. If you requested comfrey, please write me direct (not to the list) in case you are the third name that I've lost. Thanks. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
VOTE
It's Douglas McMurtrie who has been keeping the list. I nominate Doug as chairman of this dealie. Wil C. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
VOTE
BJS, you make some salient points. How about a vote? First, perhaps, under the heading VOTE, questions/issues to be voted on concerning this money. Each person who might become a contributor could respond to every question with a simple yes/no; the votes would be tallied, money collected, and at the end of a specified time period take out of consideration all those who voted but decided against contributing. Something like that?? whaddayathink? Let's get the ball rolling on exactly what it is we're trying to accomplish and how to do it. This could be fast, or it could take forever. Fortunately, someone has been keeping track of the money. I suppose whoever that is (see how good a record keeper I am?) should be appointed chairman of this whole process. I make that in the form of a motion. Wil C. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
NOTICE
With no apology, I launch into the personal here. If you don't want to share grief, please feel free to delete this very personal message to you who in such a short while have shared so much with me. Wil Cavanaugh She was one of our best friends. The people with whom she lived until 1993 called her Buddha-- the enlightened one. They were going to put her to sleep, because they suspected she had killed one of their ducks. Chuck loved her, and would not allow that, so he brought her home where she has been the kindest, happiest, most wonderful spirit around. She frequently had a rooster who walked beside her. She knew the peafowl well, while we had those birds. We had many waterfowl who trusted and loved her. She was a snake-killer, and she hunted with Merlin in her prime. Living in a Baptist enclave has its disadvantages. Chuck did not want to change Boo's name at her advanced age, but he did not want the locals to think ill of her, so he suggested a compromise. Why not change her name to Bootiful? And so we did. She knew her name, and she knew she was loved. We have many memories, many pictures. She was our friend. We think there was more wrong with her poor body at the end than just the heart failure, for which we were taking her to the vet. She would swell so big, and we'd have to have her drained. But she lost nearly all her fine musculature. Both Chuck and I knew last night that she had reached the end. Chuck sat in front of her on the floor in the dining room, in the full knowledge that she needed to leave. I will always believe that she was staying until Chuck was ready to release her. Gently, with tears coursing down his cheeks, he told her goodby. He told her that she was free to go when she was ready. Then we picked her up and put her on Chuck's pillow on the floor next to his side of the bed. Chuck lay awake most of the night, and he was with her when she passed over at 4:12 this morning. He got up and tended to her dishes and leftover food. I am grateful that he got to be with her. She loved me, but he was her special friend-- beloved above all. As you may imagine, we are in deep mourning. I knew she was not well. . . desperately ill, in fact; but we miss her so deeply it is beyond words. She is now at the heart of God, I know. She can talk, she can think as she never thought before, and she KNOWS she was loved-- still is. We will always be grateful to have spent 5 years with this wonderful person-- our friend. And if I might be so bold as to say: Our loss is Heaven's gain. They're going to have some fun up there, now that our Bootiful is there to liven the place up. I've often heard: If it's not beautiful, you're not dead. I believe that. It's the only thing that makes losing Bootiful bearable. I hope you will forgive us for sharing our pain-- that was not my intent. I simply did not want the passing of this most wonderful person to go by without remark. She deserves better than that. Yours, Chuck Wil -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: Comfrey Off the Topic
Comfrey is just comfrey. The pepsin must be from something else. I'll be glad to mail you some of the root for growing your own plant if you'll send me your snailmail address. I do not know how many of you will want this, but I will send as much as I can. Wil Cavanaugh chuck...@iamerica.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: But the bulk of medical and scientific knowledge is valid, p
Mike, Your assessment of chc's post was well-received by me, though I visit his side of the fence more often than the other side. My concern was with throwing out the good with the bad that you alluded to. Sorry, friend, but that has already happened and your reference to the lad who laid open his thumb and needed the doctor is a terrific case in point. It tells me clearly that this horse ain't near dead enough. Have you never heard of or used comfrey? It's like science fiction the way this stuff works. Chuck's father laid open his ring finger to the bone when his wedding ring got caught by their automatically- closing trunk. I had given him a comfrey plant and he had dried quite a few leaves which I then blended into a dry powder. He dusted the badly mangled finger with this powder AND used some fresh comfrey blended with water to soak the digit. In WELL UNDER a week (3 or 4 days, I seem to recall) you could hardly see the point of injury. I myself laid open a thumb to the bone, soaked the badly bleeding injury in comfrey water for 30 minutes, there was almost no pain after that and the injury healed to the point that you'd have thought it a mere scratch in 3 or 4 days. My point is: almost nobody I know has any knowledge of comfrey (which even works on my dogs and peafowl-- that pretty well eliminates psychosomatics.) There are MANY SUCH cures that work on everybody, but they don't work on anybody anymore, 'cause that course of study has turned into opinionated herbalism that doesn't work or the study has been altogether abandoned. VERY FEW herbalists with whom we have dealt have any knowledge of dosage. VERY FEW chiropractors with whom I have dealt are more than con artists. THIS LIST is perhaps the single group of enlightened folks who put all others to the test and come out with the pure gold. Jump subjects: Is there such a thing as colloidal gold? Wil Cavanaugh -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: Wound Care - LONG!!
Carl, I'm sorry to say I haven't been following your story closely. This posting sounds like the kind of stuff many of us have gone through in caring for ourselves and others. I am very impressed, and it sounds like it's going to have been a success story at the end. Could you tell the story one more time up to this point? Marsha: Chuck I did our first CS last night. We used a 12V. DC electricity power pack (plugs into the wall, puts out 12 v.d.c.) and left in the glass 5 or 6 minutes. Both of us were goofy for about 30 minutes. I drank another glass before going to bed without that effect. Am having another glass this a.m. Also gave a bowlful to our dog who has congestive heart failure. Nothing can hurt her at this point. So what was that extreme dizziness- anybody. And I feel pretty darned good. Your Wil -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS Lab Tests
Okay, guys, here's the fly in the ointment. I had volunteered 10 bucks-- maybe it got routed wrong (and I really appreciate the record keeper in this matter; I'm no good at that sort of thing, and don't want to learn to be good.) Since it got misplaced in the shuffle, after I heard that the results were already in, I kept quiet because I really don't like to waste money-- too hard to come by some days-- and replication of honest test results seems a waste to me and I really don't want to contribute to that. 'Course I never made it to the list, so ole stingy gut me shoulda kept mum-- NOT!! I'm too committed to openness, especially with such a terrific group as this. What a wonderful thing that we're willing to put our money where our mouths are. Since this test has now been done twice, I suggest some other project. And Bob seems to be a natural leader. I nominate him Secretariat/National Treasure/Presidio. How 'bout if we send him (or whomever we elect) money-- whatever we're comfortable with-- and then come to a consensus about how to spend it. I would, however, suggest that we do as we've done on this: wait till we do a pretty thorough investigation to see if we can obtain whatever information we're after without cost. With money in hand, we'll be able to expedite this thing. Frankly, it's a risk. Bob may turn out to be a con man who runs off to Mexico with our $4.35; but I'm as willing to bet that he's responsible as I'm willing to admit that I'm not going to handle anyone else's money. I trade commodities for a living, and it makes me nervous handling my own money. Marsha, speaking of money, I have the money order to send you, and I'll mail it today. Thanks for the silver, gorgeous. Wil C. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: Doctors
Mike,
The applause you hear in the background is mine. Probably a host
of others, as well. When a person of a different ethnic background
makes me angry, I don't indict their ancestors.
Our doctor doesn't run the AMA. Many priests I have known (though
I'm not Catholic) have VERY different opinions than their church.
Were they to make that common knowledge, they'd lose not only their
credibility with the masses ('scuse the pun,) but very possibly
their jobs. My brother is CEO of a large corporation, but with
politics involved I feel reasonably sure he bridles his tongue
(and his practice.) There IS a place for politics. It keeps us
from devolving into is not... is,too... incoherency. We
want to get our point across as efficiently and acceptably as
possible. And I believe that to be true of those doctors who
KNOW about good alternative treatments, yet who have been hired
under the constraints that don't allow them to openly use unapproved
methods.
BLESS 'EM. Many of them are doing the best that they can, with what
they have, where they are. We are doing the same. I, for one,
agree with Mike that we need to get along (and cut some slack.)
Wil C.
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Re: Testing CS or other anti-microbials
Bob, why can't you get the data that someone else has already paid for. Didn't I understand that the GsE people had had the test run? Can you ask them to fax the documentation to you? Wil C. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: HPV
Joyce, Those are all good remedies for warts. Years ago, a friend of mine, Diane Hamilton (who has a Ph.D. in chemistry) told me that there was not a stronger anti-fungal, anti-viral-- even with a prescription-- than garlic. As it happened, I had a highly resistant form of athlete's foot that none of the then-current medicine would touch, so I used freshly-grated garlic all over my foot. I now laugh at my ignorant faith, as I burned my foot badly and it swelled to three times its normal size. Once the burn healed, my athlete's foot was gone. Later, a friend had condyloma (sp?)-- genital warts. They were so bad, they looked liked a cauliflower protruding from the anus. He had already gone through 2 operations and one doctor's office procedure to remove these-- EXTREMELY painful, and they caused the onset of kidney stones from dehydration. I suggested putting one clove (or toe) of garlic in a blender with a little water, then adding that blended amount to an enema bad and filling with water. Didn't want to burn him. (The garlic must be grated, or the active chemical-- aliicin-- will not form. Crushing does not do the job as well, if at all.) He was scheduled for an operation on Monday, and this was Friday night. First enema Friday night. Saturday morning frightened both of us, as the thing had grown to huge proportions. I begged him to continue, knowing about the nature of such beasts that fight before they die. By the third treatment Saturday, we thought we noticed a change for the better-- last enema just before bedtime. Sunday morning he awoke and the entire thing had disappeared. COMPLETELY GONE He did the treatments Sunday, anyway, but did not go to the doctor Monday. He later had a doctor treating him for something else say he had noticed the warts on his record. I told the doctor that they were gone, and he asked to examine my friend. He did a proctoscopic exam and was incredulous. Wanted to know what we had done, and when I told him he totally discounted it. The warts return from time to time, very few in number, and he does the garlic enema. It also gives a rush of energy. For what it's worth, Wil C. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: Deer Tick
I'm sure you know that Lyme disease is caused by a spirochete (sounds like parakeet.) I've read literature that says the best treatment/preventive is echinacea. We have cured cryptococcus with massive doses of fresh echinacea, root and all ground up in blender with water and strained through a clean cloth. We divided the liquid from one plant and big glass water into three doses per day and took for 21+ days. Die-off was frightful, with big round rashes all over legs. I started a few days before Chuck to be sure of effects, since I'm so nauseatingly healthy. Nobody seemed to know critical dosage, and we found there was no problem for us at this huge level. We came to associate an anesthetized mouth with good quality echinacea. We also found that overnight refrigeration seemed to take away some effectiveness and sunlight destroyed the purple cast to the almost black juice; so we made it daily and kept it covered away from light. Don't know how prevalent Lyme disease is in your area, but we in Louisiana are apt to be bit nearly every year and I've only heard of a few cases of Lyme. Wil C. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: Colloidal Silver (The Jacobs story)
Mike, Years ago I knew a dermatologist who had a lady come to him with green skin. She'd been to a number of doctors, with no success on diagnosis. It took this doctor only a few questions to ferret out the culprit-- I think it was Chloraseptic (maybe Scope, but think not.) She was drinking several bottles a day. I thought it was funny. Carrots will certainly tan you. In fact, there was a product tagged by the Life Extension people-- can't remember their names offhand (Durk Shaw?)-- as an oral tanning agent, which worked on that principal. tty later Wil Cavanaugh -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
