CS>Re: 'Ole Bob's Colloidal Silver Book

[julie martin]

my memory is that when Ole Bob died, his wife did give permission to allow the 
book to be shared with the Silverlist.  i believed Wayne had a copy saved on 
his website, but i have not been able to locate it there this morning.  
Marshall or Ode may remember where the file is located so that all can go read 
and save it to their computer.  

any one else remember this?

julie m


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Re: CS>mixing cayenne and turmeric

[julie martin]

Debbie,  i use cayenne tincture.   for what it is worth, this is what i do. 
start out with a regular cayenne tincture (as Dr Christopher's hot is much 
stronger) and just add a drop or two to a large volume of tea or lemon water if 
you prefer.  then as you become accustomed, increase the cayenne slowly.   i 
treat myself to a 44 oz tea with lemon every afternoon.  i sweeten with stevia 
and add a dropper-full of Dr Christopher's hot cayenne tincture.  if i don't 
have the cayenne i don't enjoy the tea at all.  i also use the same in my night 
time quart of herbal tea and  my morning quart of msm and lemon water.  i used 
cayenne tincture at home when i had a heart attack about 5 years ago and i have 
also used it to control bleeding on cuts.  it is really good stuff, but you may 
have to start slow.  i also strongly  believe with cayenne, it needs to be in 
the mouth to warn the stomach it is coming so as to avoid discomfort.julie m

--- On Sat, 7/2/11, Deborah Gerard  wrote:

From: Deborah Gerard 
Subject: CS>mixing cayenne and turmeric
To: "cs" 
Date: Saturday, July 2, 2011, 3:49 PM

Hi folks...I have been trying to drink a touch of cayenne pepper with ACV and 
the pepper burns on the way down.  I have some turmeric capsules and was 
wondering if opening the capsules and putting a little of the cayenne in them 
would be a problem? Would it be bad to have the two in one capsule?
Thanks for your help in advance,
Debbie :)

Re: CS>Soap

[julie martin]

i use a small container and mix half coconut oil, half baking soda with a drop 
of peppermint essential oil.  works great.
julie m


> I have heard of people brushing their teeth with coconut
> oil...
> sol


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Fw: Re: CS>Gatorade Electrolytes - Alternatives - Posts reposted

[julie martin]

i found one by Mr Harris also dated '06 but he stated at that time he used 
gatorade.  will continue searching my saved files. note there are several below.

--- On Sun, 8/13/06, Rowena  wrote:


> Date: Sunday, August 13, 2006, 12:08 PM
> Kurt, there has been previous
> discussion on this, but as the archives, I 
> think, are down, here is what I have stored.  There
> may be more info that 
> other people have.
> Rowena
> --
> 
> Electrolyte Drink
> 
> Many Pedialyte and Electrolyte drinks are made with
> dextrose. Unfortunately,
> it is difficult to be sure if the dextrose is unadulterated
> (see Dextrose).
> It is easy to make your own.
> 
> Electrolyte drink
> 
> 1 quart boiled water
> 2 tbsp. honey
> 1/4 tsp. of salt
> 1/4 tsp.baking soda
> 
> Can be kept in refrigerator for 24 hours, and then a new
> batch should be
> made
> 
> 
>   Are there any gatorade alternatives that help in
> absorption of CS for 
> those that are allergic to dyes and sugars?
> 
>   -
> 
>   I use Fulvic Acid Mineral Complex from Vital Earth.
> The fulvic acid is 
> supposed to make all the nutrients more absorbable, as well
> as escort wastes 
> more efficiently out of the body.
> 
>   Nenah
> 
>     coconut water is the best but its 
>     Type in   { homemade gatorade
> } in you favorite search engine to see all 
> the different recipes that are out there.
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Langsley" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 8:04 AM
> Subject: CS>Gatorade Alternatives
> 
> 
> Hi all.
> With all the talk here about the possible benefits of using
> Gatorade or
> Pedialyte with EIS and the many concerns expressed about
> Gatorade and
> Pedialyte and their ingredients I thought I would post this
> offering of
> homemade alternatives to Gatorade or Pedialyte. I
> originally posted this on
> the SilverPets list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilverPets/
> I may have posted it here too but since the archives are
> down I can't be 
> sure.
> In any event here it is again for anyone interested in
> alternatives to
> commercial electrolyte products.
> 
> Here are a few formulas for electrolyte solutions you can
> make at home.
> The only one which could be said to be sugar free is the
> starch based
> one.
> 
> This first one can be used for enemas and orally. Some of
> the others may
> be usable as enemas as well but this is the only one I'm
> sure of. It is
> advisable to warm to body temperature prior to use.
> 
> Boil and cool 4 cups water (Actually I prefer to start with
> distilled
> water)
> It will be easier to completely dissolve the dry
> ingredients if one
> starts
> with warm water.
> Add- 1/2-teaspoon baking soda
> - 1/2-teaspoon salt
> - 3 Tablespoons sugar
> Be sure all of the dry ingredients are fully dissolved and
> mixed.
> 
> Here are a couple more options for homemade electrolyte
> solutions.
> 
> Starch-based Solution
> 
> 1 quart clean (preferably distilled) water
> ½ teaspoon table salt
> 2 oz. (about 1 cup) baby rice cereal
> 
> Sugar-based solution
> 
> 1 quart clean water
> ½ teaspoon table salt
> 8 teaspoons sugar
> 
> And a couple more.
> 
> This recipe may be used in place of an over-the-counter
> product
> (Pedialyte),
> IF followed EXACTLY:
> 
> 3 Tablespoons of Sugar
> 3/4 teaspoon of Salt
> 1 Teaspoon of Baking Soda
> 1 Cup of Orange Juice (I don't use this)
> 1 Quart of Water.
> 
> Pour together and shake well, being certain that all dry
> ingredients are
> fully
> dissolved and mixed. (Keep refrigerated and and warm to
> body temperature
> before use and use within 48 hours).
> 
> 2 quarts water
> 1-teaspoon baking soda
> 1-teaspoon salt
> 7 Tablespoons sugar
> 1 packet Sugar-Free Kool-Aid
> 1/2-teaspoon salt substitute
> 
> The salt substitute and Kool-Aid are optional. As with the
> others, store
> in the refrigerator and warm to body temperature just prior
> to use.
> 
> Remember too that EIS when mixed with salt produces silver
> chloride
> which is known to be much less effective than genuine ionic
> silver. However 
> if
> one is making up one's own homemade electrolyte solution
> one is free to vary
> it to suit the need of the moment.
> -- 
> LTR
> 
> 
> Last time I checked pedialyte it contained aspartame
> 
> Since Gatorade is an electrolyte solution (plus sugars,
> flavorings, 
> chemicals, etc.), I was wondering whether Pedialyte infant
> electrolyte 
> solution could be used instead.  I would not want to
> drink Gatorade because 
> of the immune depressing effect of the sugar.
>   The mineral solution you suggested--where do you get
> it?
>   Jill
 
> Is there an alternative to using Gatorade's to get
> electrolytes with the CS?
 
> Thank You
 
> KV
> 






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Re: CS>Using pickle jars and virgin glass jars to make colloidal silver ---

[julie martin]

i use baking soda to clean glass jars.  i wash and rinse very well, sprinkle 
baking soda in both the jar and the lid then let them set for several days.  
rinse very well and IF there is any remaining odor i repeat the above process.  
this has always worked well for me.
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Re: CS>Potassium Deficiency Information

[julie martin]

Blackstrap Molasses 1- Tablespoon contains 500mg potassium. (Tree of Life 
brand) check the lables, i have one brand that only contains 17mg per 
tablespoon.







  


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Re: CS>Now: Mold, Was: Pinging Mike

[julie martin]

i recently listened to an interview between David Wolfe and Paul Stamets that 
some may find interesting at
http://www.longevityconference.com/paul-stamets-interview-with-david-wolfe/
in this interview he discusses, fungi intelligence, mushroom forming fungi and 
how fungi helped generate soil and plant life.. Paul Stamets also has several 
you tube videos.
julie m

--- On Wed, 2/3/10, Dorothy Fitzpatrick  wrote:

> From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
> Subject: Re: CS>Now: Mold, Was: Pinging Mike
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 6:55 AM
> But doesn't all this mean that mold,
> whether we like it or not, is always going to be with
> us?  I presume it must have some function in the
> natural order of things or it would not be here - like
> bacteria, which are essential to life.  I don't know if
> mold comes into this category, but I do know that some
> fungii are absolutely essential to plant life.  Does it
> not boil down to our ability to deal with it i.e. whether
> our systems are functioning correctly or not?  I myself
> have never had a problem with it as far as I know.  If
> I find any in the shower I just spray it with anti mold
> stuff.  dee
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Re: CS>juicer

[julie martin]

right now the raw foodists are touting the Hurom. it is apparently easier to 
clean than the Green Star or the Champion. 

--- On Sun, 1/10/10, Deborah Gerard  wrote:

> From: Deborah Gerard 
> Subject: CS>juicer
> To: "cs" 
> Date: Sunday, January 10, 2010, 12:16 PM
> What is the best
> juicer out there that doesn't damage the product?
> thanks Debbie
> 
> 
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Re: CS>.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken CS.

[julie martin]

some years back... wasn't there a list member who had jumped into a pond and 
developed a fungus infection perhaps in his sinuses that was overcome with cs 
as well as other alternative methods?  
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Re: CS>circulation problems

[julie martin]

Ted,
Frank and Renee both gave excellent suggestions.  since my heart attack i 
use cayenne tincture several times a day. i add a dropperful to my iced tea and 
to my morning and evening lemon water. i have learned to enjoy the taste and 
miss it when i don't have it with me. i carry cayenne tincture instead of 
nitro. i made my own tincture, but could never get it hot enough even when i 
added habanero.  (i am open to suggestions here)  i purchase Dr Christopher's 
Hot Cayenne from the health food store.  
i was also told to keep the circulation system clear men should take the 
juice of 4 lemons a day and women should take 3 a day. you may wish to look at 
your diet and avoid hydrogenated oils and processed carbohydrates.  
julie m

> CS>circulation problems
>   
> I,m asking the group of infinite wisdom if any one
> has had 
>   circulation problems if so do you have any ideas lately
> my feet have been very 
>   cold even in a heated room. Some of the capillaries
> around my eyes are are 
>   breaking and getting blue marks around my eyes .I have
> asked my Dr   but 
>   no real answers in short visit  Thanks Ted
>  
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Re: CS>CS for baby

[julie martin]

Kathy,
i used CS when my youngest was an infant and developed an upper respiratory 
infection so as to avoid traditional antibiotics.  if memory serves, i used 
about one teaspoon every 3-4 hours (she was very tiny.)  i used my intuition 
and suggest you do the same.  i also gave probiotics away from the CS all night 
every 3-4 hours and for several days after i stopped the CS because i believe a 
strong gut flora increases the immune system.  
julie m

--- On Wed, 12/2/09, Kathy Tankersley  wrote:
> I was wondering if any of
> you wonderful people have 
> used CS for a baby's congestion?  If so, how much
> and how often?  
> Thanks for all the info, I love to read all the messages on
> this site,  
> thanks again, Kathy 
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CS>Toenail fungus

[julie martin]

 i have heard David Wolfe say that the
 fungus does not live only in the nail.  he reports that
 it enters the second joint below the nail.  he has
 suggested that one would need to paint the toe (or finger)
 from the tip of the nail all the way down, up to and
 including the second joint below the affected nail with #1.
 tincture of Pau d' Arco followed immediately by #2.
 DMSO.  one would then wait until the area is completely
 dry before donning socks or shoes.  this experiment
 should continue until the new nail has grown in as any
 remaining fungus can re- root and re- enter the nail. 
 
 i have heard one person report that after trying many
 things for years this method did in fact work.  i began
 the protocol, but did not complete it and noticed that the
 old nail does at least sometimes pull away from the
 toe.  this was not painful and i found a small new nail
 growing in it's place.  
 julie m






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RE: CS>chuck I remember that and found it

[julie martin]

thank you Louise!
i have searched my computer and was going thru Wayne's site because i remember 
he said he had saved it.  had only found the article on sweat.  anyway thank 
you so much!
julie m

> Actually I have a copy of it :o)))  I save a LOT of
> stuff.  But it surprised me I found it!!
> 
> Louise
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 1:35 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Walking the Walk, or The Dumb Guys
> 
> Greeting Glorious Ones of CS,
> 
>   A Test: Do not do this at home.
> 
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Re: CS>chuck

[julie martin]

i too remember Bob Lees story about the rotten meat.  that was in 1999 or 2000. 
 so yes it was about 10 yrs ago.

julie m  (who is 51) 


--- On Tue, 8/4/09, cking...@nycap.rr.com  wrote:

> 
> I remember Bob Lees hilarious story about 3 special
> services drunk
> enough to test CS on one of the group eating rotten meat.
> 
> Certainly seems like at least ten years.
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Re: CS>Sting

[julie martin]

in our home we keep Absorbine Jr. liquid on hand at all times.  it seems to 
work on everything from mosquito bites to scorpion stings to wasp/ hornet 
stings.  i have never knowingly applied it to a spider bite, so i am not sure 
it would work, but it would be the first thing i grabbed.

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Re: CS>best tick repellent

[julie martin]

it has worked on everything i have sprayed it on,
won't hurt to give it a try.  i don't let the spray
touch food directly only because i think it would
taste bad, but i do not know of any reason it would be
unsafe in the kitchen and use it there as often as
needed.

 
> VMANN:  does that work with all kinds of ants?
> i got grease ants.  although i think they mainly
> want water.  and 
> warmth, probably.  garden level apt.
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Re: CS>best tick repellent

[julie martin]

speaking of peppermint oil, i use it indoors for
insects as well.  to my empty spray bottle i add about
an inch or so of peppermint castile soap and add as
many drops of peppermint essential oil as i feel like,
then fill to the top with water.  i keep it handy for
ants, roaches, flies whatever tries to invade.  i
spray it directly on the bug and they just kind of
"run out of gas and freeze in place."  

julie
--- Starshar  wrote:

> ...In a spray bottle half filled with water I put in
a
> 'bunch' of drops of peppermint oil. Just to confuse
> the ticks, and amuse myself, I keep 2 other bottles,
> one with tea tree oil in the water, and the other
> with palmarosa. The last is because I actually read
> somewhere that palmarosa repels ticks. I use any one
> of these at a time.
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Re: CS>re

[julie martin]

i don't see any B vitamins listed on the side of my
L-tryptophan tub.  i take a separate B capsule.  

--- Deborah Gerard  wrote:

> Thanks for posting the L-tryptopban by J. Britten
> that is really interesting. I have a few questions, 
> the vitamin B, do you not take any B's while taking
> L-T? What about the L-T in bulk from the site you
> posted does it have B's in it?thanks againdebbie


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Re: CS> tryptophan repost from june'06

[julie martin]

for those who may be interested.  

--- "Jonathan B. Britten" wrote:
> List,
> 
> Many members know about big Pharm fraud, but few
> examples are as 
> compelling at the L-Tryptophan scam, which I recall
> very, very well.   
> BROJON, although being rather uneven in my opinion,
> has a great piece 
> which I am pasting below.
> THE INSIDER'S STORY OF AN  L-TRYPTOPHAN
> RESEARCHER
>   A Response To
> Reader's Requests
> 
> I have received a number of letters to the editor
> asking about which 
> L-tryptophan is the best and where to buy it.  Many
> readers want to 
> start using it each morning to maintain their
> circadian rhythms.  For 
> almost 20 years it has been impossible to purchase
> L-tryptophan.  So 
> where did I buy my tryptophan for my research for
> the last 20 years?
> 
> During the 1980's when I started my circadian rhythm
> experiments, I 
> used the common L-tryptophan found in stores.  I
> soon found there were 
> two types --one with B6 and one without any B6.  I
> tried several brands 
> of each and found that the ones with B6 did not work
> at all in my 
> experiments for shifting or controlling the
> circadian rhythms.  Thus 
> proving that B6 prevents tryptophan from getting
> into the brain.  Using 
> B6 will definitely disrupt your normal circadian
> rhythms.
> 
> I later found that almost all the L-tryptophan in
> all brands was made 
> from the same bulk raw product from Japan.  The
> Showa Denko company had 
> developed a method of using genetically modified
> bacteria to extract 
> copious amounts of L-tryptophan from milk.  Since
> the bacteria was 
> removed and reused, what remained was pure, cheap
> L-tryptophan.  It is 
> now the same method used for making all the other
> amino acid products.
> 
> In November 1989, the CDC made the false claim that
> L-tryptophan was 
> causing a new disease or disorder called
> Eosinophilia Myagia Syndrome 
> (EMS).   The symptoms of EMS were exactly the same
> as trichinosis.  
> Trichinosis is a parasite which comes from eating
> improperly cooked 
> pork.  My research found that about half of all
> American's have 
> contracted the trichinosis parasite.  But for most
> people it is 
> sub-clinical, meaning most people don't even know
> that they have 
> trichinosis.  This sub-clinical form of the disease
> is the primary 
> reason for most autoimmune disorders such as
> fibromyagia and chronic 
> fatique syndrome.  The body immune system attacks
> itself in an attempt 
> to get rid of the parasite.  The disease is caused
> by microscopic worms 
> embedding by the millions into your muscles.  Then
> they form a tiny 
> impenetrable cyst which protects them from
> medication and from your own 
> immune system.  No effective medication has been
> found for ridding the 
> body of trichinosis.
> 
> For most people the original symptoms were a slight
> fever like the flu, 
> and achy muscles as the trichinella enter the
> muscles and become 
> encysted.   It takes about a week and later those
> early symptoms go 
> away and are forgotten.  Those were exactly the same
> symptoms which 
> were identified as EMS by the CDC.   In the first
> week after the CDC 
> alert for EMS, the doctors before reporting EMS
> needed to perform a 
> trichinosis test.   In the second week after the CDC
> alert, the 
> trichinosis test requirement was strangely dropped,
> so all the usual 
> hundreds of thousands of cases of trichinosis were
> then falsely 
> reported to the CDC as the new tryptophan disorder,
> EMS.
> 
> The CDC also changed the reporting requirement to
> include: observe the 
> symptoms and also, secondly interview the patient
> for having previously 
> or still using L-tryptophan.   Thus, suddenly this
> became an 
> L-tryptophan disease.  But it wasn't at all.  It was
> just the common 
> trichinosis.  I was using L-tryptophan in my
> research studies but I 
> never had any symptoms.  Something was very wrong
> with the CDC story 
> about EMS and the ban on sales of L-tryptophan.
> 
> I suspected then that this was a fraudulent story
> and I have kept in my 
> files, several years worth of all the CDC reports
> and university 
> research reports into the suspected causes for EMS. 
> The CDC even 
> blamed Showa Denko for making a contaminated product
> and forced them 
> out of business.  But NO cause of EMS was ever found
> and the story was 
> quietly dropped, but the ban for local drug stores
> to sell L-tryptophan 
> has remained.  Mysteriously and quietly the ban on
> sales has been 
> dropped in the last year and now many small sellers
> are using the 
> Internet to push L-tryptophan.  Why?  What has
> suddenly changed?
> 
> The original reason for banning the sale of
> L-tryptophan is still a 
> mystery.  I suspected the illegal ban was bought and
> paid for by Eli 
> Lilly which made nearly a trillion dollars by
> selling Prozac, which was 
> designed to replace L-tryptophan as a means t

Re: CS>re

[julie martin]

yes Deborah,
i use their msm, the psyllium as well as a few other
of their products.  for those interested i will send a
post made by Jonathan B. Britten to the CS list in
June 2006 reguarding tryptophan.
julie

--- Deborah Gerard  wrote:

> Great site Julie good price on msm too...I always
> wondered about taking other animal supplements
> besides the msm that I take if they were okay for
> humans? any comments on this one? thanks


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Re: CS>re

[julie martin]

Sorry for being unclear Faith,
someone asked about tryptophan.  yes i purchase from
the below website.  and yes i use it.  it helps with
depression and sleeplessness, but does not cause any
unpleasant aftereffects.
julie
 
> Thanks for your reply, but I do not understand. 
> What am I missing here? 
> Did you buy something (not sure what you are
> referring to here) for an 
> animal and use it yourself?
> 
> Faith 

>http://www.buygpdirect.com/  look on the feed
> > supliments page.  i purchase the su-per and
> > encapsulate it... too gritty otherwise.
> > 2.5 pound - $12.68
> > 12.5 pound - $57.08

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Re: CS>re

[julie martin]

http://www.buygpdirect.com/  look on the feed
supliments page.  i purchase the su-per and
encapsulate it... too gritty otherwise.
2.5 pound - $12.68 
12.5 pound - $57.08

i have used 6 caps at night and 3 in the morning.  i
find it very usefull for depression in addition to
helping with sleeplessness. this is one of those
suppliments i would not want to be without.

they also have an ultra pure:8 ounce - $25.85  
2 pound - $95.13



> I cannot use Melatonin.  It disagrees with me. 
> L-Tryptophane is great but 
> where can I buy it?  The FDA has taken it off the
> market.
> 
> Faith
>

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Re: CS>To daddy bob and larry- magnesium

[julie martin]

you're right Sol, thanks for pointing that out.  i had
overlooked that word.  i found this "hydrolyzed
Protein... is another term for MSG."

--- sol  wrote:

> I wouldn't use it because I don't like hydrolized
> proteins.
> sol
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RE: CS>To daddy bob and larry- magnesium

[julie martin]

interesting... only today i was trying to find
information for Magnesium Proteinate.  the information
i found stated it is " More Protective than Magnesium
Oxide" and it is "the product resulting from the
chelation of a soluble salt with amino acids and/or
partially hydrolized protein." 
i have only used magnesium citrate and am curious if
anyone else has used this form and what differing
effects it may have.  
thanks,
julie  

--- ransley  wrote:
 
> ...Mag Chloride: no laxative effect, much better
> absorption into the body, very
> highly calming and relaxing, take too much I
> wouldn't give a hoot about
> anything. Not very good though for relaxing the
> stomach or interceding in
> heartburn, can even be a bit rough on the stomach.
> Tastes horrible and burns
> on the tongue.
>  
> Mag citrate: good for heartburn, sleeping and as a
> laxative. Calming, but
> not nearly as much as Mag chloride. Tastes neutral.
>  
> Mag taurate: not good for sleep at all, better to
> take in the day, not badly
> calming but good for heartburn and energy. Tastes
> bitter but not awful.
>  
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Re: CS>MSM - 11 Feb

[julie martin]

Dennis,
i purchase my msm from the feed store too.  i mix mine
in a morning shake, or fresh juice. 
j martin
--- dgulenchin  wrote:

> Hi Sandee,
> I have purchased a container of MSM meant for horses
> (99% pure) and tried taking 1/4 tsp.a couple of
> times but every time I take it I get awful stomach
> cramps. Does this happen for you too? I wonder what
> I'm doing wrong - do you take it with food? I'm
> hesitant to try taking it again because I don't want
> to go through the pain of cramps again. Does anyone
> else expierience these cramps right after taking
> MSM?
> Dennis
> 
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Re: CS>Re: Re: CS>sad morning and a question

[julie martin]

MA,
 as a former cattery owner, i can assure you that
cs did not kill the kits.  i have used cs both in
place of water 100% and with a nebulizer on both cats
and kits.  i have also used it with my children from
newborn to big kids.  drink it or nebulize with it,
none died from cs.  if a kit has a uri they can go
down very quickly, sometimes in a matter of hours.  do
not let this experience cause any fear or guilt. 
sometimes kits just die and i have seen cs work when a
vet and his meds could not.  
julie

--- marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote:

> 
> > No, I don't think that would be possible.  I think
> the best course of actions would have been to
> nebulize with CS, since oral CS does not do well
> with respiratory infections.  How cold did it get in
> the barn last night?
> 
> Well, I'm not sure -- but it got pretty cold here
> last night -- high 20's, low 30's.  Of course, it's
> never that cold in the barn because we have horses
> and they generate a lot of heat.  Also, I had taken
> precautions to protect the kittens with layers of
> insulation under the cage, layers around their cage
> to hold in warmth, and a box with a towel in it for
> them to go into for additional warmth.  And they
> were not exposed to a draft.  But that's my other
> worry -- that it was too cold for them -- in which
> case I let them die needlessly.  It could only have
> been the CS or the cold.  Only one of the kittens
> was sick -- the other was eating and drinking milk
> just fine, and was very active and noisy.  Even the
> sick one drank her milk and complained when I put
> her in the cage for the night.  I could understand
> if the sick one died, but I couldn't believe it when
> I found them both dead.  I've never lost a kitten to
> cold temperatures before.  I can't believe that I
> killed my two kitt!
>  ens.  MA
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RE: CS>Tabasco peppers...

[julie martin]

no, it apparently has both cayenne and habanero.  i
have read elsewhere that habanero "can" be used in
place of the cayenne.  i just found it interesting
that the bottle states "Dr Christopher's Original
Formula" and the ingredients are "propriety blend and
habanero."
julie

--- Ed Kasper  wrote:

> ahhh ... "Dr Christopher's original formula hot
> cayenne."
> .is really habanero peppers ???


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Re: CS>Tabasco peppers...

[julie martin]

   i recently purchased a new bottle of cayenne
extract.  this time i found "Dr Christopher's original
formula hot cayenne."  it still uses grain alcohol and
includes habanero pepper (200,000 hu). i have read
that habanero can be used instead of the cayenne.  i
understand it can be purchased at Teeter Creek herbs
if requested.   
   i do not think tobasco pepper would be hot enough
and would not rely on their use in the case of a heart
attack unless i had no choice.  many people keep
cayenne pepper (powdered) in their spice cabinet.  it
is not expensive and can be found in the local grocery
or  fresher, higher hu can be found in the herb shops
or Whole Foods markets.  
   many people also keep an emergency first aid kit in
their homes and cars.  it would be simple enough to
purchase a bottle of the extract to keep to include in
this kit so one would find it easily in an emergency. 
these one ounce bottles cost $10 - $14.
julie
   

--- "M. G. Devour"  wrote:

> Remember the question I was asking was whether the
> tabasco sauce many 
> folks would have in the cupboard would be useful
> first aid for a heart 
> attack, as is reported about cayenne pepper.
> 
> It's not cayenne but frutescens. One can assume, or
> use whatever's at 
> hand, I suppose, but we don't know for sure.
> Anything would be better 
> than nothing? What about other hot sauces?
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Re: CS>AG Deodorant-Lavilin

[julie martin]

  i go to the local Wal Mart pharmacy area.  they have
a black and white tube "generic" in appearance which
costs less than $2.00. it is usually found on a top
shelf almost out of sight. i was on a trip (don't
remember where) and had forgotten my tube so i stopped
in at the local store, couldn't find it on the shelf
and i asked the pharmacy, they produced a one pound
jar (from behind the counter) - brand name Rugby. i
bought it over a year ago and think it cost about
$5.00.  i still have over half the jar left.  and it
too will last 2-3 weeks for me in the cooler months,
but i live in Texas where temps are regularly over 100
and i spend lot of time working outside so it lasts a
little more than a week. it goes on white and dries
clear.
   i think diet makes a big difference in body odors
and when i eat a lot of onion or garlic i often add
chlorophyll to my drinking water.
julie

--- Dennis Gulenchin  wrote:

> Hi,
> I have been using a product called lavilin for
> years, and it works just 
> as you describe how your Z.O. ointment works, Julie.
> During the winter 
> months it could last for between 2-3 weeks but
> during heavy prespiration 
> in the summer I have to apply it every 2-3
> days.Lavilin Arm Deodorant, 
> 12.5 grams
>

> What brand of ointment do you buy and where can one
> get it? I never 
> thought of trying a plain zinc oxide ointment but it
> should be cheaper 
> than the "lavilin" thats sold specificly for
> underarm use.
> Dennis


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Re: CS>AG Deodorant

[julie martin]

our family uses zinc oxide ointment in place of
commercial deodorants. after a shower we dry, spritz
with cs and then apply a thin layer of the zinc.  this
lasts me about a week, but dh must reapply more
frequently. it will continue working for days even
with daily showers, but shaving will remove it.  this
allows the body to continue to perspire, but
apparently keeps the bacteria that causes odors away.
i believe i read about this from H. Clark. it costs
pennies and is healthier than commercial brands of
deodorant.

--- Marshall Dudley  wrote:

> That is a bit tricky.  Using such things as K-Y
> jelly as a carrier are
> problematical because they are water soluble, and
> when you perspire, it will
> still wash off.  Seems what is needed would be the
> carrier that is used in
> waterproof sun tan lotions. That once it dries is
> suppose to be water
> resistant.
> 
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RE: CS>Cayenne

[julie martin]

Ed, 
  i don't imagine that the vinegar instead of alcohol
would make much difference, except vinegar would be
healthier.  i use liquid cayenne when i am having
angina (for fast relief) and especially when i am away
from home for the convenience.  share how the extract
can be made and i will give it a try.
  i would not think it would be too much trouble to
shake the bottle before dispensing a cayenne extract. 

  the idea of kombucha tea with cayenne sounds
interesting. 
  i once got cayenne in my eye while driving. it was
uncomfortable and my eye watered for quite a while.  i
can't imagine being sprayed in both eyes. i understand
that the product Eye Brite? contains cayenne and is
suggested for frequent use.  perhaps it is diluted
significantly.
julie 

--- Ed Kasper  wrote:

> 
> In your opinion what would be the difference if one
> used
> vinegar instead of alcohol ?


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RE: CS>Cayenne

[julie martin]

Mike,
   i used tincture on my tongue straight the first
time, maybe as much as one dropper full.  i waited a
minute or so, perhaps it was only seconds, noted that
i felt some relief then added the tincture to a small
amount of room temp water and repeated until i felt
significantly better.  i don't know if i really needed
to repeat the dose as much as i did, but it was a
frightening experience and in the beginning i was not
sure what was going on.  i have to say i was grateful
that i had cayenne on hand and that i had read the
information years before.  i currently take 3 droppers
full every night in about a cup of room temp water
before retiring.  i have never shared this information
with my cardiologist who still cannot understand how i
avoided the er.  
julie

>And I wondered how you "used" your extract, Julie?
>Diluted in warm 
>water? By the spoonful?



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RE: CS>Cayenne

[julie martin]

Ed,
   the two bottles i have are from different
companies.  one says "neutral grain spirits (38%),
distilled water."  the other says "extracted with
95%grain alcohol and distilled water."  i also keep
the powder on hand to make a hot tea with, which after
you get used to it is pretty good.  i try to buy the
freshest available and the highest heat units.
i would use the powder for any cut to stop bleeding
and would reach for any form of cayenne before i took
nitro.  
julie

> I was just wondering if you cayenne extract was an
>alcohol based extraction or what solvent was used,
maybe
vinegar?  any ideas?

Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist & Herbalist
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Re: CS>Cayenne

[julie martin]

i believe this information and the use of cayenne
saved my life when i had a heart attack.  i used
tincture of cayenne and continued to use it every few
minutes until i felt better. i keep a bottle on hand
at all times and never leave home without it.
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Re: CS>Re: nanobacteria

[Julie Martin]

no, what i meant was they are using a specific antibiotic >"Tetracycline"
and chelation therapy.  therefore, i thought "could EIS take the place of
the Tetracycline?"
jm

> Errr, I must have missed something here, or am perhaps mis-interpreting
> your last sentence?
> I am not aware of any evidence that EIS is a chelation therapy.
> sol


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CS>Re: nanobacteria

[Julie Martin]

fellow health seekers,
yesterday i watched a health program discussing the book mentioned here:
http://www.calcify.com/index.shtml  and in further research found this site: 
http://www.noaw.com/Nanobacteria/nanobacteria.htm  which discuss:
A nanoparticle that makes otherwise good calcium go bad in the body has been 
discovered in many incurable diseases. (heart disease, kidney stones, 
arthritis, etc.) The invader is so small that it challenges the definition of 
life. It uses a calcified shell to form toxic deposits in the body. 
as i understand the authors they state that diagnosis is made by a simple 
blood test and treatment consists of Tetracycline and EDTA.  my question for 
any who may have done research in this subject: would EIS and other forms of 
chelation therapy address this issue?
thanks,
julie m