Re: CSWhere We're From
sylvie hargraft, london, ontario, canada Original Message Follows From: Bill Missett miss...@prodigy.net.mx Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSWhere We're From Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 09:24:39 -0500 It was intended to induce guilt... - Original Message - From: Chip Hoyle cho...@hampsuites.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 9:09 AM Subject: Re: CSWhere We're From Hi Listers, I'm now feeling like a slacker for not responding sooner. Chip Hoyle from Charlottesville, VA, USA Bill Missett wrote: Listers: Responses to the question were less than overwhelming -- only 70 of some 425 list members responded, only a 16 percent response. Listers from 10 nations -- Australia, Austria, Canada, England, Japan, Mexico, Nepal, New Zealand, Scotland, and the U.S. responded. Fifty listers were from various U.S. states. Mike, did you receive any off-list to add to this compilation? If so, you can send them to me, and I'll add them to the list. The weak response tells me the chances of forming a viable organization to promote the efficacy of CS from this list alone is unlikely. But at least we know where some of us are located, for whatever that's worth. Regards, Bill Missett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month. Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp
Re: CSSorry Marshall (or anybody !) where can I get a 'cheap' magnetic pulse...
what is the pulser used for?? Sylvie Original Message Follows From: brick...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSorry Marshall (or anybody !) where can I get a 'cheap' magnetic pulse... Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 21:51:51 EDT Sota also sells used magnetic pulsers. I bought one for about $120 from them. It crapped out but Sota repaired it free. My pulser is manual, a button has to be pressed for each pulse. This gets to be a pain after a while. The automatic version is like $300, so I guess you get what you pay for. They will not take the used units in for trade in on a new unit. Brickey -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
CScs and bunny
A friend of mine has a pet bunny suffering of pneumonia. The bunny has undergone 2 treatments of antibiotics without success. I am thinking about nebulized cs. How would you suggest we do this? She was thinking of putting bunny in a pet travel carrier, tape all holes and leave a whole for the tubing. Would this be a possibility?? I am thinking that if we block all air escapes, wouldn't we also block oxygen supplies?? She might be afraid to put a mask of the bunny's face and have her freak out. Please, any input is quite welcome. This little bunny has been sick for quite a while now, Sylvie _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSgrey fuzzies
Is the grey deposit the same thing?? If it is not good to filter, what do I do then? I'm not interested to drink this muddy mixture from the bottom of the jar! What am I doing wrong? Too fast stirring? Sylvie Original Message Follows From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSgrey fuzzies Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:13:24 -0400 The grey fuzzies are a semi solid structure forming out of silver particles being trapped on the surface tension of hydrogen bubbles that have grown too slowly to bubble off before being stabilized by the coating. As the bubble becomes coated, it becomes semi conductive and forms another slow bubble to become coated on top of itself..on and on in a never ending feedback loop. Wiping the fuzzies off breaks up the feedback loop, but it might start over again until water conductivity is high enough to draw the set current. Excess water current pressure is one factor that leads to the formation of these small bubbles. Another is too little current draw from ultra pure [highly resistive] water. Stirring too fast also runs a greater number of ions and particles past the electrode to be attracted by it, further exasperating the conditions of the loop. The slower you run the motor, the less stable it is. It may stall out at very slow speeds. So, shortening the stirrer allows for speeding up the motor without increasing stir rate. It doesn't take much to move that water and it should not move very fast at all. You can put a small bit of paper in the container to track the water currents. It should move sort of lazily around in an inverting spiral. One would think that running the stir rate really fast would blow the bubbles off, but apparently it only causes them to stick better on the surface that faces the direction of the water current and further compresses the bubble to keep it small. [The fuzzies grow into the direction of the water flow.] If you find yourself using ultra pure water, you can let the generator run without the stirrer until a localized area of conductivity [ion cloud] forms between the electrodes, then distribute that with the stirrer to bring the total conductivity up...or seed the water with a previous batch. Heating the water some also increases initial conductivity but heating too hot causes particles to collide with enough force that they can agglomerate right away. On a good note, once the electrodes become pitted and rough from use, the hydrogen bubbles are formed in more localized an area centering on the pits [or, perhaps between them] and grow and bigger faster with fewer of them..and bubble off better. Formation of the grey fuzzies using pitted electrodes is rare. So, don't polish the electrodes, Just wipe them off. Ken At 06:36 PM 7/21/02 -0700, you wrote: From: sylvie hargraft sylviehargr...@hotmail.com 1. What is causing the formation of grey fuzzies on the cathode?? Hi Sylvie, get the instructions out of the waste basket and read. 2. How do I know what to regulate the speed of the constant stirrer of my Ole Bob to? Get the speed down to something that you can count would be good, that is if you haven't trimmed anything off of the stirrer. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
CSgrey fuzzies
Hello everybody! Three questions for you: 1. What is causing the formation of grey fuzzies on the cathode?? 2. How do I know what to regulate the speed of the constant stirrer of my Ole Bob to? 3. Does speed has an effect on the quality of the cs produced? Sylvie _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CScs and ms
Here we go, try this again! Have you come across any interesting data regarding the use of cs for multiple sclerosis. Sylvie:-)) _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CScs and ms
What do you guys know about cs and ms. They are coming to believe that cs is caused by a virus but...??? Sylvie _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSnebulizer vs personal steam inhaler
As anybody tried the Vicks personal steam inhalor? Would this works to clear your lungs when having a bad cold??? We are struggling with colds at my house. I got it from work, 2 of my co-workers are home sick and here I am feeling great. Monday, I couldn't talk, my throat was so bad, my head felt like lead... Two co-workers were exactly the same. The next morning, they are at home sick and I show up feeling like a million. Everybody was shocked wondered how I could be quasi symptom-free. I had taking cs, it unplugged my nose, cleared my ears and of course my head. Nobody could beleive this after me being so sick Monday. Now, it's kind of sitting a bit on my lungs. I don't have a nebulizer, would cost me $200. from shoppers drugstore to have a plug-in model. I saw this steam inhaler, it cost about $50, does anyone have an opinion on this product?? Any input is very welcome, Sylvie _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: CScs color/ pierced-ear infections
I used to do this, somehow I have failed to do it again but bet on my cs. cs works really well BUT it works so well with healing that within 2 days, the whole is pratically closed. Then I have to force my way in and then it's all back again. At first It used to be infection but now it seem to be sore holes. Now I better start treating them with earrings on. What a pain! Years and years ago, I had these second holes done. No problems with the first ones, but the second I had to let them close. Beginning of March, I hade them pierced again(I like two holes:-(() and the problems are all back again. Sylvie Original Message Follows From: Catherine Creel ccr...@maine.rr.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: CScs color/ pierced-ear infections Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 21:39:30 -0400 I've been watching this discussion on infected ears from piercings. There's always been a simple solution used in my family - take the earrings out for several days, and use a cotton ball soaked inn hydrogen peroxide to bathe the area 3x a day. It's never failed to work, in my experience. Regards, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
Re: CSpsoriasis
Ah YARK!!! Oh Ken, that sounds gross, I can only imagine an episode of the x-files. Hi,hi,hi... Sylvie:-)) Original Message Follows From: Ode Coyote coy...@alltel.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSpsoriasis Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 07:15:22 -0400 I saw where one shot containing a certain mix of bacteria and small parasites was curing psoriasis in New Zealand. Seems there is a lack of things for the immune system to do and it winds up attacking the body.. out of boredom? Check out Dr Polly Matzinger Ken At 08:21 PM 5/20/02 -0500, you wrote: Hi all, Perhaps you missed my response the other day. My friend had psoriasis VERY BAD CASE. She was slated to go to her doctor for storid shots. I gave her CS. She put a wet with CS gauze over the psoriasis. She wrapped this gauze with plastic wrap so it would stay moist all night. She did this for three days, and it was almost ALL GONE. The CS does work.She also drank about an oz. twice a day. - Original Message - From: sylvie hargraft sylviehargr...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 8:04 PM Subject: Re: CSpsoriasis Should she then use it locally only or internally as well?? Sylvie =Sylvie, an immune system disorder meerly suggests that the body is =under =assault by some organism and is not winning the fight. I have seen CS =refered to as a second immune system =Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
CStaste of cs
Hi everyone, could you tell me what the taste of your cs is like?? Mine does have a metal taste to it. Yack!!! Sylvie _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSpsoriasis
Hello, I did read your response, thanks. Is it o.k. if I give her your message to read? Sylvie Original Message Follows From: MARIANO DELISE nancym...@prodigy.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSpsoriasis Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 20:21:45 -0500 Hi all, Perhaps you missed my response the other day. My friend had psoriasis VERY BAD CASE. She was slated to go to her doctor for storid shots. I gave her CS. She put a wet with CS gauze over the psoriasis. She wrapped this gauze with plastic wrap so it would stay moist all night. She did this for three days, and it was almost ALL GONE. The CS does work.She also drank about an oz. twice a day. - Original Message - From: sylvie hargraft sylviehargr...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 8:04 PM Subject: Re: CSpsoriasis Should she then use it locally only or internally as well?? Sylvie =Sylvie, an immune system disorder meerly suggests that the body is =under =assault by some organism and is not winning the fight. I have seen CS =refered to as a second immune system =Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
CSdrinking cs
As anybody felt stomach discomfort from ingesting cs(about 4 ounces)? Not sick but just a feeling of something in the stomach. Sylvie _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTo Sylvie, re ears
They are suppose to be!! Sylvie Original Message Follows From: Jack Dayton jack...@harbornet.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTo Sylvie, re ears Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 09:41:26 -0700 Hi, Sylvie -- you are using hypoalergenic posts, right? Jack You wrote: On another note, I am having problems with infection from my earrings. I have been applying cs to the holes for about 5-10 min. How often should I apply the cs and how soon do you think it would take to clear? Thanks, anybody's help and comment is always welcome, Sylvie _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus
I have moved it to the off-list! Sylvie Original Message Follows From: Jack Dayton jack...@harbornet.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSGary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 10:16:11 -0700 5/15/02 10:09 AM sylvie hargraft O.k I have refrained from asking this but it is really getting to me to not know... WHAT IS A ZAPPER??? Sylvie:-)) Sylvie. this should be moved to the off-topic list. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
Re: CSpsoriasis
Should she then use it locally only or internally as well?? Sylvie =Sylvie, an immune system disorder meerly suggests that the body is =under =assault by some organism and is not winning the fight. I have seen CS =refered to as a second immune system =Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
Re: CSSYLVIE: CSTo Sylvie, re ears
Hello Maxine, why should I keep away from yellow gold?? Sylvie Original Message Follows From: Maxine Wilton mm...@sprynet.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSSYLVIE: CSTo Sylvie, re ears Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 08:37:27 -0700 If your ear rings are not of Stainless steel posts and backs or silver then coat them several times with the hardening kind of clear nail polish and let dry i day between each application and wait about 3 days before wearing them. If they still bother, re coat them and if still do throw them out. Don't wear Yellow gold or othe metals. You can also take a needle and thread dental floss dipped into hydrogen peroxide and thread through the hole. leav long enough sa as to be able to pull and resaturate with peroxide several times a day and use C S after the peroxide . Wait about ten mintes before the CS or any other healing item on dental floss. Change dental floss daily. and leave in untill completely healed so doesn't heal shut. If at any time you catch an ear ring and it pulls and maked your ear bleed, remove earrings imeadiatly, saturate and clean with peroxide then put healing med on, C S or other untill completely well again. If the metal even on wire earings is not a pure silver or stainless stell of good quality, you can get infection even with out a tearing or whatever. Also always remove them when going to bed. Maxine -Original Message- From: John Reeder jree...@sbcglobal.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 11:50 PM Subject: RE: CSTo Sylvie, re ears Keep away from the rubbing alcohol. John -Original Message- From: nk [mailto:n...@shaw.ca] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 11:10 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSTo Sylvie, re ears Use it as often as you would hydrogen peroxide or Rubbing Alcohol for sterilizing. Every couple of hours would probably suffice. Nk You wrote: On another note, I am having problems with infection from my earrings. I have been applying cs to the holes for about 5-10 min. How often should I apply the cs and how soon do you think it would take to clear? Thanks, anybody's help and comment is always welcome, Sylvie _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScs color
Thanks Ken, Sylvie Original Message Follows From: Ode Coyote coy...@alltel.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScs color Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 11:46:45 -0400 If the water is very warm and the room cold, it might be that the drop in saturation point as the water cools off after the run could kick post process particle formation into high gear and make the CS go yellowish. The advantage to using warm water with the Ole Bob Gen is increased initial conductivity of the water that helps things get started faster. The downside being that if the water has not cooled to near room temp during process and the room is very cool as is likely in Canada, uncontrolled post process agglomeration could take place. You got 'pink' CS [a few very large particles in an otherwise small particle clear CS water] when you placed the batch in the fridge. I suggest a very large run/storage temperature differential? I have had this happen only in winter when heating with the wood stove. ..Warm water in a very warm room, then the room temp drops drastically over night. Ken At 10:59 PM 5/14/02 +, you wrote: Hi Jack, I was wondering what the impact of water temperature at the starting point has. Can this affect the silver particle's sizes? My friend Ole Bob is pretty simple to operate, I don't know how I could produce large particles of cs. My cs is usually colorless, I have made cs with a very slight yellow color, and of course this other batch that was fine and then, turned pink in the fridge. The water I use is steam distilled water from the drug store. We do not have Walgreens here in Ontario(that I know). Somebody in Quebec mentioned using Life brand steam distilled water from Pharmaprix. We have life brand at our Shoppers drug stores. I have purchased some but haven't used it yet. On another note, I am having problems with infection from my earrings. I have been applying cs to the holes for about 5-10 min. How often should I apply the cs and how soon do you think it would take to clear? Thanks, anybody's help and comment is always welcome, Sylvie Original Message Follows From: Jack Dayton jack...@harbornet.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScs color Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 13:48:25 -0700 5/13/02 5:53 AM sylvie hargraft wrote: Then, where should cs be stored? Room temperature and stay away from fridge? Should I then stay away from colored bottled, in order to allow monitoring of cs color ? Hi Silve, This is just from my experience so far (5 batches). Each batch has been without any color at all, and if Ken's figures are correct, each batch should have been about 28 ppm. As to storage, we happened to have a 2 pint glass lined (vacuum bottle) carafe that is serving very well for this purpose. I don't remember if you mentioned the brand of DW that you are using, but not all brands are PURE distilled water. If there is a Walgreens available do try their brand - it is steam distilled and deionized. If you do try it, be sure to seed it from a previous batch of silver. My first wasn't , it ran almost 5 hours. With one ounce of seed I get shutoff in about 2:45 hours. Now this is more than twice as long as Ken states as run time, so I will try 2 Ounces, I'll let you know what results. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
RE: CSGary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus
O.k I have refrained from asking this but it is really getting to me to not know... WHAT IS A ZAPPER??? Sylvie:-)) Original Message Follows From: John Reeder jree...@sbcglobal.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSGary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 22:33:18 -0700 I am new to this forum, but, in my experience, cs keeps me healthy on a continuing basis. If I came under massive attack I would resort to the zapper first and antibiotics last meanwhile keeping the cs in the system. I suspect that some critters need to be attacked from more than one angle. cs in the bloodsteam has a hard time getting to the skin although when rubbed on an infected area seems to help, if not irradicate, the infection. The zapper works the best and quickest on skin ailments and, if I was calling this warfare, the zapper is the heavy artillery and the cs is the hand-to-hand combat element. The new element in my arsenal is VCO and I am not fully aware of how to use that method of treatment. Also, right now, I am investigating the LED method of combat. The war goes on and on. One of my college students came down with a lung infection (he is a close friend also) and I have him taking cs without very noticeable results. Today I put him on the zapper and saw very noticeable results in his appearance, but the cs continues for him. John -Original Message- From: Maxine Wilton [mailto:mm...@sprynet.com] Sent: Friday, May 14, 2094 9:46 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSGary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus Mariano, How long and how much did your neighbor take of C S?? Did they take anyhting else with it etc? I been on it about 2months now and drinking abt 14 oz aday now. I still have the p[ain and the virus. What am I if I am, doing wrong? Maxine -Original Message- From: MARIANO DELISE nancym...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 9:40 PM Subject: Re: CSGary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus How much CS are you on, and how often. My neighbor had shingles, and the CS orally is what killed the virus, but I think you should be agressive. How about working up to 8 - 16 oz throughout the day? - Original Message - From: Maxine Wilton To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 12:57 PM Subject: CSGary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus Hello Gary, Are you a Dr of what kind of medicine?? My Dr said the Contrition won't help but I differ. I have been taking Glucosimine/ Contrition and it has helped me. What do you do to get rid of the Virus of Shingles/ chicken pox.? I have found many things that all help with the p[ain in lessoning it some ,but I want to KILL the VIRUS as The pain won't go away without ridding oneself of the unstopable Virus I beleive. I am also on CS and won't give up yet. Maxine mm...@sprynet.com _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CScs color
Hi,hi,hi... I'm talking about the generator... Sylvie Original Message Follows From: Ode Coyote coy...@alltel.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CScs color Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 11:50:53 -0400 That would be Ole Bob , the person? Agreed Actually, I don't think anyone CAN operate Ole Bob Berger..except him. I like him a lot. ken At 05:10 PM 5/14/02 -0600, you wrote: My friend Ole Bob is pretty simple to operate,... That has not been my experience; he is actually pretty complicated. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: sylvie hargraft [mailto:sylviehargr...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 5:00 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CScs color Hi Jack, I was wondering what the impact of water temperature at the starting point has. Can this affect the silver particle's sizes? My friend Ole Bob is pretty simple to operate, I don't know how I could produce large particles of cs. My cs is usually colorless, I have made cs with a very slight yellow color, and of course this other batch that was fine and then, turned pink in the fridge. The water I use is steam distilled water from the drug store. We do not have Walgreens here in Ontario(that I know). Somebody in Quebec mentioned using Life brand steam distilled water from Pharmaprix. We have life brand at our Shoppers drug stores. I have purchased some but haven't used it yet. On another note, I am having problems with infection from my earrings. I have been applying cs to the holes for about 5-10 min. How often should I apply the cs and how soon do you think it would take to clear? Thanks, anybody's help and comment is always welcome, Sylvie Original Message Follows From: Jack Dayton jack...@harbornet.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScs color Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 13:48:25 -0700 5/13/02 5:53 AM sylvie hargraft wrote: Then, where should cs be stored? Room temperature and stay away from fridge? Should I then stay away from colored bottled, in order to allow monitoring of cs color ? Hi Silve, This is just from my experience so far (5 batches). Each batch has been without any color at all, and if Ken's figures are correct, each batch should have been about 28 ppm. As to storage, we happened to have a 2 pint glass lined (vacuum bottle) carafe that is serving very well for this purpose. I don't remember if you mentioned the brand of DW that you are using, but not all brands are PURE distilled water. If there is a Walgreens available do try their brand - it is steam distilled and deionized. If you do try it, be sure to seed it from a previous batch of silver. My first wasn't , it ran almost 5 hours. With one ounce of seed I get shutoff in about 2:45 hours. Now this is more than twice as long as Ken states as run time, so I will try 2 Ounces, I'll let you know what results. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
Re: CScs color
Ken, can you explain how the stir rate affects the cs? Thanks, Sylvie Original Message Follows From: Ode Coyote coy...@alltel.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScs color Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 11:33:40 -0400 The DW I use is from Food Lion and meters at 1 to 2 PPM. Walgreens doesn't even register. It takes a very long time to build up to 1 or 2 PPM where the generator will start to pull its set controlled current. The 26.8 PPM figure came from Ole Bob himself via his photospectrometer. At the time he said it was total silver, then changed his tune to say his equipment only measures Ionic silver. Maybe it measurs all of the ionic and some of the particulate? I dunno. NCDNR Water Lab in Raleigh says 45.5 PPM total silver content. [Ionic and colloidal particulate] I don't know what method they used to test it but they wanted huge samples. [I have the report] The generator is set to turn off at 15-17 PPM ionic as read by a Hanna PPM meter..which does NOT read particulate. Total silver will vary according to 'in process' agglomeration of ions into particles as the generator circuitry works like the meter and won't detect particulate silver either. Both water temperature and stir rates influence 'in process' particle formation. Probably, temperature differentials influence 'post process' particle formation. BTW, Jack The gen you sent back is working perfectly. I made a 16 oz batch in 3 hours with cool FL water yesterday. Light TE remains unchanged this morning...shut down at 16PPM ionic and has remained colorless and stable so far. I only had to wipe the rods once. [old used pitted electrodes] I sent you a new transformer for your replacement gen. It checked out at 27vac at no load. I think that'll do her up right. Ken _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CScs color
Katrin, this article is very informative but I'm afraid it discredits any of the members' cs group. Do you purchase all your cs or do you make your own. Carno doesn't believe it can be made outside of lab setting. Sylvie Original Message Follows From: Seppo Paananen ca...@raketti.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CScs color Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 20:35:22 +0300 Here you can find many answers. www.carnoimpex.fi Katrin -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coy...@alltel.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 6:34 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScs color The DW I use is from Food Lion and meters at 1 to 2 PPM. Walgreens doesn't even register. It takes a very long time to build up to 1 or 2 PPM where the generator will start to pull its set controlled current. The 26.8 PPM figure came from Ole Bob himself via his photospectrometer. At the time he said it was total silver, then changed his tune to say his equipment only measures Ionic silver. Maybe it measurs all of the ionic and some of the particulate? I dunno. NCDNR Water Lab in Raleigh says 45.5 PPM total silver content. [Ionic and colloidal particulate] I don't know what method they used to test it but they wanted huge samples. [I have the report] The generator is set to turn off at 15-17 PPM ionic as read by a Hanna PPM meter..which does NOT read particulate. Total silver will vary according to 'in process' agglomeration of ions into particles as the generator circuitry works like the meter and won't detect particulate silver either. Both water temperature and stir rates influence 'in process' particle formation. Probably, temperature differentials influence 'post process' particle formation. BTW, Jack The gen you sent back is working perfectly. I made a 16 oz batch in 3 hours with cool FL water yesterday. Light TE remains unchanged this morning...shut down at 16PPM ionic and has remained colorless and stable so far. I only had to wipe the rods once. [old used pitted electrodes] I sent you a new transformer for your replacement gen. It checked out at 27vac at no load. I think that'll do her up right. Ken At 01:48 PM 5/14/02 -0700, you wrote: 5/13/02 5:53 AM sylvie hargraft wrote: Then, where should cs be stored? Room temperature and stay away from fridge? Should I then stay away from colored bottled, in order to allow monitoring of cs color ? Hi Silve, This is just from my experience so far (5 batches). Each batch has been without any color at all, and if Ken's figures are correct, each batch should have been about 28 ppm. As to storage, we happened to have a 2 pint glass lined (vacuum bottle) carafe that is serving very well for this purpose. I don't remember if you mentioned the brand of DW that you are using, but not all brands are PURE distilled water. If there is a Walgreens available do try their brand - it is steam distilled and deionized. If you do try it, be sure to seed it from a previous batch of silver. My first wasn't , it ran almost 5 hours. With one ounce of seed I get shutoff in about 2:45 hours. Now this is more than twice as long as Ken states as run time, so I will try 2 Ounces, I'll let you know what results. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
CSzapper
Do you believe as does Dr. Clark that all diseases are caused by parasites? Sylvie:-)) Original Message Follows From: John Reeder jree...@sbcglobal.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSGary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 11:33:28 -0700 Hello Sylvie:-)) Check out www.drclark.com. Dr Hulda Clark wrote a book called The Cure for All Diseases in which she extols the Zapper, as she calls it. It is a method of killing parasites, germs, fungii, viruses, etc using pulsating DC applied through the body from electrodes attached to the extremities (e.g. wrists, ankles, standing on aluminum foil (covered with wet paper towels). The Zapper is the electronic circuit that does the zapping, easily built from Radio Shack parts or purchased in a more useable and controllable form from Dr Clark, www.adcomtronics.com or many other vendors. Type Zapper into a search engine and all kinds of links come up. Interestingly, the Zapper was just approved in Europe as an alternative healing method (kind of like the FDA approving cs here). I built my first one and then purchased a commercial unit from adcomtronics simply because I was too lazy to build a better one than my first attempt. It seems to be very useful on skin ailments of any type. I actually had a tumor on my left arm disappear after about a week of zapping a few days before I was scheduled for surgery to remove it. The doctor who was to do the surgery was amazed and stated, you must be living right. John Reeder _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSpsoriasis
A friend of mine as a pretty bad case of psoriasis. Being an immune system disorder, I do not understand the claim that cs is helping this condition. Any of you had success using cs? If so, I would suggest it to her, but I diffinitely do not want to make a fool of myself. Sylvie:-)) _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: CScs color/ pierced-ear infections
Thanks everybody for your helpful comments, I'll be trying a few suggested things, Thanks to all, Sylvie:)) _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScs color
Hi Jack, I was wondering what the impact of water temperature at the starting point has. Can this affect the silver particle's sizes? My friend Ole Bob is pretty simple to operate, I don't know how I could produce large particles of cs. My cs is usually colorless, I have made cs with a very slight yellow color, and of course this other batch that was fine and then, turned pink in the fridge. The water I use is steam distilled water from the drug store. We do not have Walgreens here in Ontario(that I know). Somebody in Quebec mentioned using Life brand steam distilled water from Pharmaprix. We have life brand at our Shoppers drug stores. I have purchased some but haven't used it yet. On another note, I am having problems with infection from my earrings. I have been applying cs to the holes for about 5-10 min. How often should I apply the cs and how soon do you think it would take to clear? Thanks, anybody's help and comment is always welcome, Sylvie Original Message Follows From: Jack Dayton jack...@harbornet.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScs color Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 13:48:25 -0700 5/13/02 5:53 AM sylvie hargraft wrote: Then, where should cs be stored? Room temperature and stay away from fridge? Should I then stay away from colored bottled, in order to allow monitoring of cs color ? Hi Silve, This is just from my experience so far (5 batches). Each batch has been without any color at all, and if Ken's figures are correct, each batch should have been about 28 ppm. As to storage, we happened to have a 2 pint glass lined (vacuum bottle) carafe that is serving very well for this purpose. I don't remember if you mentioned the brand of DW that you are using, but not all brands are PURE distilled water. If there is a Walgreens available do try their brand - it is steam distilled and deionized. If you do try it, be sure to seed it from a previous batch of silver. My first wasn't , it ran almost 5 hours. With one ounce of seed I get shutoff in about 2:45 hours. Now this is more than twice as long as Ken states as run time, so I will try 2 Ounces, I'll let you know what results. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
RE: CScs color
O.k. then, I'm missing the point and do not understand a thing...:-(( Sylvie Original Message Follows From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CScs color Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 17:10:04 -0600 My friend Ole Bob is pretty simple to operate,... That has not been my experience; he is actually pretty complicated. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: sylvie hargraft [mailto:sylviehargr...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 5:00 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CScs color Hi Jack, I was wondering what the impact of water temperature at the starting point has. Can this affect the silver particle's sizes? My friend Ole Bob is pretty simple to operate, I don't know how I could produce large particles of cs. My cs is usually colorless, I have made cs with a very slight yellow color, and of course this other batch that was fine and then, turned pink in the fridge. The water I use is steam distilled water from the drug store. We do not have Walgreens here in Ontario(that I know). Somebody in Quebec mentioned using Life brand steam distilled water from Pharmaprix. We have life brand at our Shoppers drug stores. I have purchased some but haven't used it yet. On another note, I am having problems with infection from my earrings. I have been applying cs to the holes for about 5-10 min. How often should I apply the cs and how soon do you think it would take to clear? Thanks, anybody's help and comment is always welcome, Sylvie Original Message Follows From: Jack Dayton jack...@harbornet.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScs color Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 13:48:25 -0700 5/13/02 5:53 AM sylvie hargraft wrote: Then, where should cs be stored? Room temperature and stay away from fridge? Should I then stay away from colored bottled, in order to allow monitoring of cs color ? Hi Silve, This is just from my experience so far (5 batches). Each batch has been without any color at all, and if Ken's figures are correct, each batch should have been about 28 ppm. As to storage, we happened to have a 2 pint glass lined (vacuum bottle) carafe that is serving very well for this purpose. I don't remember if you mentioned the brand of DW that you are using, but not all brands are PURE distilled water. If there is a Walgreens available do try their brand - it is steam distilled and deionized. If you do try it, be sure to seed it from a previous batch of silver. My first wasn't , it ran almost 5 hours. With one ounce of seed I get shutoff in about 2:45 hours. Now this is more than twice as long as Ken states as run time, so I will try 2 Ounces, I'll let you know what results. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
Re: CScs color
Then, where should cs be stored? Room temperature and stay away from fridge? Should I then stay away from colored bottled, in order to allow monitoring of cs color ? What is strong TE and is that good or bad?? Sorry I'm really a pain...:-)) Sylvie Original Message Follows From: Ode Coyote coy...@alltel.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScs color Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 23:44:49 -0400 Hi Sylvie My phone has been out for a few days, the line having been carefully severed by the county water main installation crew. Pink or reddish CS has some pretty big particles and should probably not be injested. It's OK for any other purpose. Possible reason for it going pink could be major temperature shifts, contaminants in the water [ I think one batch went pale violet because I was swigging it from the bottle and might have spit into it] and maybe even sunspotsor something. It's a pretty rare thing and I've had about 5 batches do it in 3 years. Something destabilizes the CS in a week or two, usually in winter, and it's hard to get a handle on the causes. One other person here in NC has made reddish CS with the Ole Bob and one in Florida has had some occurance of making CS that turned Yellowish. Other than that , no one has reported a recurring problem, just a weird one now and then. A several days ago I mad a 46oz batch and split it between two identical bottles. One I placed in the kitchen, the other in the bathroom. The one in the kitched went pale yellow in 2 days. The one in the bathroom is still just fine after a week. THe differences in location are , the bathroom doesn't get any sunlight whereas the kitchen doesn't get direct sunlight. [I have had batches sitting in the sun for years with no change] The bathroom is deeper up under the tin roof. [radiation deflector?] The kitchen window was open allowing wide day/night temperature fluctuations The Ole Bob is set to walk the edge of stability as related to PPM. It makes really strong stuff. You could back off on the run time a bit. Try this. Short the electrodes together momentarily with a spoon or something to get an idea of what full brightness of the LED is. Start the batch with the motor not running till the LED reaches that brightness or seed the batch with some previously made 'good' CS till the LED is at full brightness. Start the stirrer and let it run for one hour. NOT scrubbing the electrodes tends to reduce fornmation of deposits. Just wipe em off. CS that has a strong TE will tend to appear to be any color that's around it. Sometimes I have to take it outside to see what color it really is [or isn't] _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAnodes diodes - Silvie
It's o.k. Jack I remembered my chemistry classes and I understood what you meant. Sylvie Original Message Follows From: Jack Dayton jack...@harbornet.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSAnodes diodes - Silvie Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 03:45:39 -0700 Hi Silvie, My face is red, I gave you some bad info about the silver wires in Ole Bob -- the negative wire is not called a diode, but is properly named CATHODE sorry if I caused any confusion for you. So to say that again, the positive wire is an ANODE, and The NEGATIVE wire is the cathode, the one that gets the fuzzies on it. I'll haer about that I'm sure :-) Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
Re: CScs color
Is it still usable or should dispose of this? Sylvie Original Message Follows From: Ode Coyote coy...@alltel.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScs color Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 11:33:09 -0400 It's post process agglomeration of small particles into big ones which could be caused by nearly anything. Ken At 02:12 PM 5/8/02 +, you wrote: I'm not sure if I'm seeing things here. The cs I made a few days ago is showing a VERY slight pinkish tint. What is that?? Sylvie _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
Re: CScs color
Thanks for your reply. Some have suggested that it would be soap residue. I don't remember having used soap to clean my jar at all. Puzzled me. As for wires, as soon as the gen stops, I wipe the silver wires very well. I do not get this nice original shinyness, I assumed it was a result of using them. Should I scrub them?? I always meant to ask if it mattered in which holes I put them, since they have a different purpose. Can their position be reversed(changing hole)? Having the Ole Bob gen. from silverpuppy, what could cause to cook too long since it stops on its own? we use as a topical spray How exactly do you use it in the sprayer and for what purpose? If I was to mix cs with msm gel, is there some specification as to how much to put of each ingredient? Sorry about all the questions here but I am trying to keep them to a minimum. This whole world is uite new to me. Sylvie Original Message Follows From: wolfcreek1 wolfcre...@earthlink.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScs color Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 11:32:20 -0700 Is it still usable or should dispose of this? Hi Sylvie ~ I know Ken will reply to your question, but thought I would offer our preferences. Since CS is so easy to make, anything that turns off color (i.e., being cooked too long) we use as a topical spray or in the garden, but don't internally ingest. I'm sure you could ingest this, but I have never had CS turn pink. When we cook to 4 mA's or 5 mA's it gets dark with grayish/blackish tints. This we use as stated above. 3mA's seems to be the perfect product for us as it is clean and clear. Do you rinse your CS container with DW before use? Anytime we make any changes to our CS, i.e., cleaning wires, I always rinse the wires and jars with DW. Just our opinions. Happy Howling, Julie Critters Wolf Creek Ranch mailto:wolfcre...@earthlink.net http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/index.html Home of Whispering Winds Wholistic Animal Sanctuary The person who says it cannot be done, should not interrupt the person doing it. Don't dream a dream, live a dream and let reality sleep. ~ Enyo Johnson -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
CSbottle for cs
I would like to know what is good to keep cs in. 1. I hear Mason jars are o.k., pop bottles(plastic??) smoke or blue bottles... 2. If I wanted to use real smoke or blue cobalt bottles, eye dropper... Where do I find them in Ontario or Canada. I know I can order on line but I have come across various courier fees that are just rediculous. My mother has come to visit me and is returning Friday. I'd like to give her some cs while she is here. She was telling me that one of my brothers had a terrible tooth abcess and it had to be operated emergently. Apparently, it was quite torture to go through this ordeal, would having used cs take care of the abcess only by swishing it in the mouth for a while? Also, would cs be of any help with stomach ulcers? Knowing that ulcers are a symptom and not a cause, would then cs be useless in treating this ailment? Any input would be quite appreciated Sylvie _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSbottle for cs
That is an idea, does it have a dropper? Gum is no problem, I can take care of this. Sylvie Original Message Follows From: Medwith, Robert medwi...@tacom.army.mil Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSbottle for cs Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 09:13:30 -0400 Arozona tea (herbal) comes in cobalt blue bottles At the price of the tea usually less than a dollar here you could buy for the bottles and throw the tea away (or find some one who likes it) I do not know if it is available where you are at. I have a source that loves the tea and saves the bottles for me I suppose you could pop across the border and buy a couple of cases The only draw back you need a good solvent to take gum off once the labels are pealed I happened to have some MEK (methyl Ethel keytone) from the emron paint I use on my boat There are other solvents that work Hope this helps you Bob _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSbottle for cs
Wow, I feel more and more positive about this all purpose:-)) cs. Sylvie Original Message Follows From: Marshalee Hallett liah...@utah-inter.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSbottle for cs Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 07:54:47 -0600 I would like to know what is good to keep cs in. 1. I hear Mason jars are o.k., pop bottles(plastic??) smoke or blue bottles... Clear, hard plastic water bottles are just fine. Been using them myself for years now. 2. If I wanted to use real smoke or blue cobalt bottles, eye dropper... Where do I find them in Ontario or Canada. I know I can order on line but I have come across various courier fees that are just rediculous. Why bother? My mother has come to visit me and is returning Friday. I'd like to give her some cs while she is here. She was telling me that one of my brothers had a terrible tooth abcess and it had to be operated emergently. Apparently, it was quite torture to go through this ordeal, would having used cs take care of the abcess only by swishing it in the mouth for a while? Absolutely! Also, would cs be of any help with stomach ulcers? Knowing that ulcers are a symptom and not a cause, would then cs be useless in treating this ailment? Any input would be quite appreciated Ulcers are caused by a bacterium, Helicobacter pylori, therefore CS would cure them. Sylvie Hope this helps! Marshalee _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CSdmso
Hmm... they say: not available into canada on their site. Sylvie Original Message Follows From: Ode Coyote coy...@alltel.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSdmso Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 06:50:06 -0400 Try www.dmso.com Worked for me Ken At 11:26 AM 5/2/02 +, you wrote: Where do you find DMSO?? Sylvie _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
Re: CSpure distilled water
When your distille your water, what removes the minerals?? What is a pwt? Sylvie Original Message Follows From: Grant g...@island.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSpure distilled water Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 21:13:11 -0700 Sylvie: Hi there I guess I can throw my 2 cents worth in. I was using a product made by Continental Packaging out of Richmond B.C. It was ok.. Available at Central drugs.. They jacked the price up, so I bought a Sears Distiller, and now make my own.. Thrifty foods also sells reverse osmosis in bulk, and it usually measures less than 2u/s so it would be ok also and cheap..I used it a few times and it seemed ok..If you had a PWT you could try different brands and you would know what was acceptable.. Grant.. sylvie hargraft wrote: If there are any canadians on the list, I would like to know what brand of distilled water you are using to make your cs, as well as where you get it. Sylvie _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
CSdmso
Where do you find DMSO?? Sylvie _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSpure distilled water
If there are any canadians on the list, I would like to know what brand of distilled water you are using to make your cs, as well as where you get it. Sylvie _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSdistilled water
Safeway and Walgreen is not here. I live in Ontario. The drugstore I went to today had steam distilled water and they quote mineral salt at less than 2ppm. Is that pure enough? Sylvie _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAnyone know of any good oral chelation ideas on removing silver?
Please, keep us updated. Sylvie Original Message Follows From: sinaj...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAnyone know of any good oral chelation ideas on removing silver? Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 22:04:14 EDT Yes, I have that site. Thank you. Someone on the list sent it and I have started it along with eating lots of fresh Cilantro from the grocery store. A HREF=http://kitchendoctor.com/articles/cilantro.html;Cilantro - Mercury Toxicity - Oral Chelation - kitchendoctor.com/A http://kitchendoctor.com/articles/cilantro.html I am happy to say it seems to be getting lighter after just a week. Wish I had believed it a year and a half ago and started some of these things. So much for being an ostrich and putting my head in the sand thinking it would go away on its own and making up excuses. I do believe the Argyria happened because my system was already overloaded with Doxycycline when I started the silver. I had no idea that could effect it until lately. I just hope it continues getting lighter. Thank you again _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe[2]: CSArgyria and Beneficial Bugs
Hey Ken, I DIDN'T write that!!! I sent a reply to this message, but not this from ME!! I wouldn't:-(( At 02:20 AM 4/17/02 EDT, you wrote: In a message dated 4/16/2002 6:40:20 PM Central Daylight Time, sylviehargr...@hotmail.com writes: Janis still has NOT responded to my previous posts, in which I directly quote her from posts made in 2000. Using everyday math, she consumed more than 13 gallons of WaterOz silver. Going by her statement, made in 2000, she consumed over 7 gallons (which doesn't jibe with other statements in the same post). Going by her most recent statements, she only consumed 3 or 4 gallons. The question I posed was VERY basic. Just how much WaterOz DID she take? Which statement is accurate? Something must be wrong somewhere with the math. Because I purchased a total of 9 gallons of WaterOz and sold 3 to friends and gave some away and still have 1 partial one left sitting that I have given to friends to topical wounds and warts to see if it would take care of that. For the first few months before the WaterOz I took CS that I made myself. The reason I went with WaterOz is that it was ionic and was suppose to be higher in PPM plus smaller particle size because at that time on this list everyone was discussing how the particle size needed to be small to pass through the blood brain barrier to fight Lyme disease since it gets into the brain, central nervous system, and hides in cells. As far as very exact amounts I took I didn't keep real close account of how much my family took also and what all I did with all of it. I even made some of it into a spray for cuts and scrapes also. I had a bicycle wreck at one point and put WaterOz on my knee which took several weeks to heal too. I can say that my knee finally healed and didn't leave a scar and nope it didn't turn my knee grey either. I was told you guys would do this and I was waiting to see how long it would take before you would blast me and yes I get a little irritated because I remember all the things that I read on this list back then and felt so confident with everything. Now I am paying the price of being so gullible and believing everything and all the safety of it. BTW I don't sit on the computer all day long answering posts. I just got home from work and saw all the posts. I do have a life. Thank god or I would go nuts sitting here listening to all this about my color and what I did. Also I don't think all the posts are getting through because at times I see someone answering a post and I never received the original. In answer to the question on toxicity I never got sick or felt bad on the silver. All my organs check out fine I just have the grey problem to deal with and pray in time it will improve. The reason this is so depressing is I never thought the color thing would happen and I don't remember anyone on the list back then saying they were grey until a friend of mine said she was. I didn't even believe her back then because mine evidently took longer to develop. I know she didn't take near as much WaterOz as I did. I can't say exactly how much she took but I am almost sure it wasn't over a gallon maybe two. I haven't asked her. She was devastated enough to be badgered anymore. She dropped off the internet shortly after that and I feared the worst. Now thanks to being on this list I have gotten to talk to her and she is doing better. She is not on this list though and wont put herself through the cross examination I have so stupidly done. She also took another form of CS that she bought before the WaterOz. She was here once and said you guys blasted her and she said she didn't need that along with her problem. I do understand her reasoning. All I originally came here for was some information on something that might help and never realized I was going to be on trial. I have been able to laugh about it some but its getting harder as I go along. I was dealing with it better I think before I came here. Depression started in yesterday and reached a high today and hopefully tomorrow will be a brighter day. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
Re: CSRe[2]: CSArgyria and Beneficial Bugs
I have been following this tread and I'm becoming concerned that people are starting to come up with rather unfair comments. She has said in her first message that she had taken large amounts of cs. I don't need we need a complete confession from her. Is anybody looking for statistic datas? Let's put it in the name of research, but at this point it looks more like a confession we are looking for. I do not see that Janis was blaming WaterOz for her actual problem. Somebody brought up that there was suspicion that their cs was in fact not real cs. I don't think Janis offer this info. Anybody happy about WaterOz's product today could very well praise the company, and with reason if they have a good experience. Now, if years later, a problem comes up as a consequence of its use, could you condemn her for not praising anymore?? How could she know what was waiting for her down the road? Janis came to the group to look for an answer to a question,just an answer in case anybody had one. She doesn't need to be put down, that is unfair! She has said that it was the consequences of her decision and would not blame anybody for it. Is she slowly getting bitter? I would too if I'd be turning grey, anybody would! Actually, I find she is taking it rather well and with humour. No need to be nasty here. Sylvie Original Message Follows From: Solar so...@dialup.oar.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe[2]: CSArgyria and Beneficial Bugs Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 18:38:30 -0400 Hello Marshall, Tuesday, April 16, 2002, 2:32:06 PM, you wrote: MD What is hokey about it? Marshall, Anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of what you are saying would agree that there is NOTHING hokey about the statements you made. What IS hokey is.. Janis still has NOT responded to my previous posts, in which I directly quote her from posts made in 2000. Using everyday math, she consumed more than 13 gallons of WaterOz silver. Going by her statement, made in 2000, she consumed over 7 gallons (which doesn't jibe with other statements in the same post). Going by her most recent statements, she only consumed 3 or 4 gallons. The question I posed was VERY basic. Just how much WaterOz DID she take? Which statement is accurate? I am beginning to think she is either a shill, or has a bone to pick with the manufacturer of WaterOz products. While this is purely speculation on my part, see if you can follow my thinking. This is all hypothetical, of course. Someone gets involved with a manufacturer, and stands to make a profit. So they espouse the virtues of the products. Then as time passes, that person has a little falling-out with that manufacturer. So, they run around trying to bad mouth them. Most probably just pure fiction on my part, but possible nonetheless. Her selectivity in answering questions posed to her makes me quite suspect. Her outright attack on your, quite valid, statements, as if she is the ultimate authority, only adds to her lack of credibility. Personally, I cannot accept any of her statements as fact until she sees fit to explain the discrepancies. As always, just my 2 cents. -- Best regards, Solar -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
Re: CSNebulizing CS
What about a normal humidifier?? In times of colds, wouldn't this take care of the presence of germs in the house as well as the carriers? My son is allergic to mold. His bad season is from spring until frost, would humidifying the house with cs be effective? Sylvie Original Message Follows From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNebulizing CS Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:03:43 -0400 I nebulize with about 2/3 of the little bottle that comes with the paint sprayer in Brookes design. That would be about 1/2 oz. Depending on your condition, too much could cause an excessive herx I would imagine. CS should be easily absorbed through the lung tissue and into the blood steam, or eventually eliminated through mucus expulsion. Marshall Janet Lubart wrote: How many minutes at time do you and your children nebulize? How many times a day to successfully clear an infection? Does anyone know if it is possible to over-nebulize? How about too many days in a row? Where does all that CS go once it reaches the lung areas?Thank you all so much,Janet _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNebulizing CS
very interesting. It actually has to be in direct contact, right? Sylvie Original Message Follows From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNebulizing CS Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:19:42 -0400 sylvie hargraft wrote: What about a normal humidifier?? In times of colds, wouldn't this take care of the presence of germs in the house as well as the carriers? My son is allergic to mold. His bad season is from spring until frost, would humidifying the house with cs be effective? Sylvie What do you mean by a normal humidifier? There are steam types, wet media types, spinner types, and ultrasonic types. The steam type will leave any silver behind. The wet media types will leave the silver behind. The spinner types will put the silver into the air in big droplets, and the ultrasonic will put it in the air in small droplets. I believe that the silver will fall out of the air pretty quickly after the water evaporates, probably within a couple of feet of the humidifier. That would limit its effectiveness. If any of the droplets reach a surface before drying, then it is likely that surface may become stained with silver as well. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com