Re: CS>CS and Cancer?

[Jean Baugh]

Hi Phil,

30 what?  Days, hours or minutes?

Thank you,

Jean

On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 8:40 PM Phil Morrison 
wrote:

>
> Besides CS, folks with your concerns should be considering the Silver
> Pulser from Sota Instrument.
>
> Also, a dose of CS takes 30 to transit the body ... in and out.
>
> Considering this residual time of silver in body, 2 quarts of regular CS
> daily probably qualifies for overkill.
>

Re: CS>CS and Cancer?

[Neville Munn]

Edit:  I hope this doesn't come through twice, I had to cull.

Thanks for your reply Max.

No, no idea what caused it, and I wasn't, and still not, trying to kill 
anything.  I had a few scans, a couple of mri's, blood etc etc, and nothing 
showed up in all my internal organs, looking at the test results they checked 
pretty much every organ in my body.  Mainly it was that comment from some 
Professional that got me thinking my ingestion of silver every day shows there 
are no underling issues in my blood, that's why I assume my blood is "fairly" 
clean, I repeat though, "fairly" clean for my age back then (65 then).

Bob Beck did say it cleans the blood, and I am of the opinion that he was 
correct going on all my test results.  One of our daughters was convinced I 
would have some issue with my lungs, (I have been a smoker for over 50 years), 
but nothing was said going on my results, to use a medical terminology here, 
everything is 'unremarkable' .

Hmmm, I don't think I 'sailed' through though, couldn't speak properly for a 
couple of days, but my spelling, forgetting words, constructing sentences etc 
means some of the brain cells went 'walk about' 6 years ago and seemingly ain't 
coming back .

"Stupid as a child"...LOL.  Yeah, well, my philosophy is, there's no point in 
changing anything now Max. .

Thanks anyway Max.

N.

________
From: Max 
Sent: Thursday, 23 September 2021 6:12 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CS>CS and Cancer?


Neville

Im so glad you sailed through the brain bleed.   Thats really serious of 
course.   Do you have any idea what caused the hemorrhage?


What microbes were or are you trying to kill?   Someone has a tag line from 
Bernard or Enderlein that the microbe is nothing, the terrain is everything.   
Killing microbes prophylactically is an interesting presumption of chronic 
silver drinkers.

We normally have some bits of microbes in the blood.  This is a 
lipopolysaccharide material or endotoxin.  A theory goes that this is 
responsible for ongoing inflammation, not a good thing, which can progress in 
severe cases to sepsis and death.  This may be related to 'leaky gut syndrome'  
which itself may be related to a lack of healthy microbial diversity in the 
gut.   Yet Ive read that a certain amount of this endotoxin is a biological 
requirement.   "data suggest that environmental exposure to endotoxin, even in 
the absence of infection, may protect against the development of allergic 
diseases"


How does silver kill these microbes?  Part of the mechanism is production of 
ROS,  reactive oxygen or 'free radicals'.   Not only from silver action but 
also the biological reaction of the immune system trying to deal with the 
silver.   This is also 'inflammation'.   If I had sepsis, I would drink a lot 
of silver, but if I didnt, Im not sure I would risk it.  Silver can 
de-differentiate cells, cause DNA damage,  can get in the brain...


The idea of sterilizing ourselves of microbes is not something thats going to 
happen, nor would it be healthy.  A healthy terrain, or tissues free from 
pollutants and heavy metals and all kinds of waste products may be the best 
approach.   That said,  probably everyone has read Bob Becks miraculous health 
turnaround using silver and his vein pulser.   Its tantalizing to think we 
could get super healthy by killing a bunch of microbes.   After decades of 
using Rife and electrotherapy, that path to super health remains elusive, and 
problems occurred in my kidneys and my head.

I guess if the doctor looked at your blood and said there arent many antigens, 
thats probably true.  I hope this leads to less inflammaging and a healthy 
happy life


Ive learned two things in my life;  Firstly, I was stupid as a child, and I 
secondly, I havent changed much


Thanks

Max

Re: CS>CS and Cancer?

[Greg Kentwell]

I think that is very good advice Max. 

Regards,

Greg 


> On 23 Sep 2021, at 2:21 pm, Max  wrote:
> 
> Robert Becker did the seminal experiments on silver for regeneration and 
> cancer.  As I recall, voltage is also involved. But heres the thing;  cancer 
> is probably not caused by a lack of silver.  To correct cancer, a 
> comprehensive approach may be required.  Ive tried to treat cancer with 
> silver, electrotherapy, herbs of all kinds, vitamins and more.   I wasnt 
> successful, except for the use of black salve, and even that backfired with 
> more aggressive cancer return.   Im not saying you wont be successful using 
> silver, Im saying if anybody is fighting cancer, you should really work at it 
> from all angles, starting with diet and elimination of toxins.
> 
> Best of luck
> 
> Max
> 
>> On 9/22/2021 5:24 PM, Williams wrote:
>> I heard (from a reliable source) drinking a couple of quarts of CS per day 
>> kills cancer cells.
>> didn't get all the info.  This is a miracle breakthrough, or a cruel hoax.  
>> Anyone had any experience with CS and Cancer?
>> 
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Re: CS>CS and Cancer?

[Max]

Neville

Im so glad you sailed through the brain bleed.   Thats really serious of 
course.   Do you have any idea what caused the hemorrhage?



What microbes were or are you trying to kill?   Someone has a tag line 
from Bernard or Enderlein that the microbe is nothing, the terrain is 
everything.   Killing microbes prophylactically is an interesting 
presumption of chronic silver drinkers.



We normally have some bits of microbes in the blood.  This is a 
lipopolysaccharide material or endotoxin.  A theory goes that this is 
responsible for ongoing inflammation, not a good thing, which can 
progress in severe cases to sepsis and death.  This may be related to 
'leaky gut syndrome'  which itself may be related to a lack of healthy 
microbial diversity in the gut.   Yet Ive read that a certain amount of 
this endotoxin is a biological requirement. "data suggest that 
environmental exposure to endotoxin, even in the absence of infection, 
may protect against the development of allergic diseases"



How does silver kill these microbes?  Part of the mechanism is 
production of ROS,  reactive oxygen or 'free radicals'.   Not only from 
silver action but also the biological reaction of the immune system 
trying to deal with the silver.   This is also 'inflammation'.   If I 
had sepsis, I would drink a lot of silver, but if I didnt, Im not sure I 
would risk it.  Silver can de-differentiate cells, cause DNA damage,  
can get in the brain...



The idea of sterilizing ourselves of microbes is not something thats 
going to happen, nor would it be healthy.  A healthy terrain, or tissues 
free from pollutants and heavy metals and all kinds of waste products 
may be the best approach.   That said, probably everyone has read Bob 
Becks miraculous health turnaround using silver and his vein pulser.   
Its tantalizing to think we could get super healthy by killing a bunch 
of microbes.   After decades of using Rife and electrotherapy, that path 
to super health remains elusive, and problems occurred in my kidneys and 
my head.



I guess if the doctor looked at your blood and said there arent many 
antigens, thats probably true.  I hope this leads to less inflammaging 
and a healthy happy life



Ive learned two things in my life;  Firstly, I was stupid as a child, 
and I secondly, I havent changed much



Thanks

Max


On 9/22/2021 11:05 PM, Neville Munn wrote:
Max, it sounds like you are quite knowledgeable, so I have a simple 
question...6 years ago I had a brain episode (bleeding), prior to that 
I was ingesting an amount of EIS every morning for 10 years or so, and 
still am 16 odd years later, a Professional remarked to me back then 
that I am low in antigens.  To me that means my blood is "fairly" 
clean...Yes/No?


I'm no academic, but that comment suggests to me that my blood if 
"fairly" clear of bugs or pathogens, am I right?


N.


*From:* Max 
*Sent:* Thursday, 23 September 2021 2:51 PM
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com 
*Subject:* Re: CS>CS and Cancer?
Robert Becker did the seminal experiments on silver for regeneration and
cancer.  As I recall, voltage is also involved. But heres the thing;
cancer is probably not caused by a lack of silver.  To correct cancer, a
comprehensive approach may be required.  Ive tried to treat cancer with
silver, electrotherapy, herbs of all kinds, vitamins and more.   I wasnt
successful, except for the use of black salve, and even that backfired
with more aggressive cancer return.   Im not saying you wont be
successful using silver, Im saying if anybody is fighting cancer, you
should really work at it from all angles, starting with diet and
elimination of toxins.

Best of luck

Max

On 9/22/2021 5:24 PM, Williams wrote:
> I heard (from a reliable source) drinking a couple of quarts of CS 
per day kills cancer cells.
> didn't get all the info.  This is a miracle breakthrough, or a cruel 
hoax.  Anyone had any experience with CS and Cancer?

>
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Re: CS>CS and Cancer?

[Neville Munn]

Max, it sounds like you are quite knowledgeable, so I have a simple 
question...6 years ago I had a brain episode (bleeding), prior to that I was 
ingesting an amount of EIS every morning for 10 years or so, and still am 16 
odd years later, a Professional remarked to me back then that I am low in 
antigens.  To me that means my blood is "fairly" clean...Yes/No?

I'm no academic, but that comment suggests to me that my blood if "fairly" 
clear of bugs or pathogens, am I right?

N.


From: Max 
Sent: Thursday, 23 September 2021 2:51 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CS>CS and Cancer?

Robert Becker did the seminal experiments on silver for regeneration and
cancer.  As I recall, voltage is also involved. But heres the thing;
cancer is probably not caused by a lack of silver.  To correct cancer, a
comprehensive approach may be required.  Ive tried to treat cancer with
silver, electrotherapy, herbs of all kinds, vitamins and more.   I wasnt
successful, except for the use of black salve, and even that backfired
with more aggressive cancer return.   Im not saying you wont be
successful using silver, Im saying if anybody is fighting cancer, you
should really work at it from all angles, starting with diet and
elimination of toxins.

Best of luck

Max

On 9/22/2021 5:24 PM, Williams wrote:
> I heard (from a reliable source) drinking a couple of quarts of CS per day 
> kills cancer cells.
> didn't get all the info.  This is a miracle breakthrough, or a cruel hoax.  
> Anyone had any experience with CS and Cancer?
>
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Re: CS>CS and Cancer?

[Deborah Gerard]

 I take it daily have for 20 years. I am the oldest of 6 kids. Baby brother 
died of cancer two years ago. Sister one year down from me had colon cancer. 
Mom died of cancer. Aunt died of cancer. Both grandpa's died of cancer. My 
niece had cancer in her neck. My odd's of getting cancer are HUGE and so far so 
cancer here and I am 70 years old.
On Wednesday, September 22, 2021, 08:24:45 PM EDT, Williams 
 wrote:  
 
 I heard (from a reliable source) drinking a couple of quarts of CS per day 
kills cancer cells.  
didn't get all the info.  This is a miracle breakthrough, or a cruel hoax.  
Anyone had any experience with CS and Cancer?


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Re: CS>CS and Cancer?

[Smitty]

Essiac tea also.

On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 6:52 PM Max  wrote:

> Robert Becker did the seminal experiments on silver for regeneration and
> cancer.  As I recall, voltage is also involved. But heres the thing;
> cancer is probably not caused by a lack of silver.  To correct cancer, a
> comprehensive approach may be required.  Ive tried to treat cancer with
> silver, electrotherapy, herbs of all kinds, vitamins and more.   I wasnt
> successful, except for the use of black salve, and even that backfired
> with more aggressive cancer return.   Im not saying you wont be
> successful using silver, Im saying if anybody is fighting cancer, you
> should really work at it from all angles, starting with diet and
> elimination of toxins.
>
> Best of luck
>
> Max
>
> On 9/22/2021 5:24 PM, Williams wrote:
> > I heard (from a reliable source) drinking a couple of quarts of CS per
> day kills cancer cells.
> > didn't get all the info.  This is a miracle breakthrough, or a cruel
> hoax.  Anyone had any experience with CS and Cancer?
> >
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Re: CS>CS and Cancer?

[Max]

Robert Becker did the seminal experiments on silver for regeneration and 
cancer.  As I recall, voltage is also involved. But heres the thing;  
cancer is probably not caused by a lack of silver.  To correct cancer, a 
comprehensive approach may be required.  Ive tried to treat cancer with 
silver, electrotherapy, herbs of all kinds, vitamins and more.   I wasnt 
successful, except for the use of black salve, and even that backfired 
with more aggressive cancer return.   Im not saying you wont be 
successful using silver, Im saying if anybody is fighting cancer, you 
should really work at it from all angles, starting with diet and 
elimination of toxins.


Best of luck

Max

On 9/22/2021 5:24 PM, Williams wrote:

I heard (from a reliable source) drinking a couple of quarts of CS per day 
kills cancer cells.
didn't get all the info.  This is a miracle breakthrough, or a cruel hoax.  
Anyone had any experience with CS and Cancer?


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Re: CS>CS and Cancer?

[Paul Steel]

 Might be worth contacting Frank Keys at Mesosilver...

On Wednesday, September 22, 2021, 08:40:27 PM EDT, STEVE LEVINE 
 wrote:  
 
 I remember the guy who made the Silvergen CS generator mentioned that he gave 
a gallon of CS to a friend with cancer and it cleared in a month. Silver 
apparently causes cancer cells to dedifferentiate (change back to normal cells).

Steve


> On September 22, 2021 at 8:24 PM Williams  wrote:
> 
> 
> I heard (from a reliable source) drinking a couple of quarts of CS per day 
> kills cancer cells.  
> didn't get all the info.  This is a miracle breakthrough, or a cruel hoax.  
> Anyone had any experience with CS and Cancer?
> 
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RE: CS>CS and Cancer?

[Phil Morrison]

Besides CS, folks with your concerns should be considering the Silver
Pulser from Sota Instrument.

Also, a dose of CS takes 30 to transit the body ... in and out.

Considering this residual time of silver in body, 2 quarts of regular CS
daily probably qualifies for overkill.

Re: CS>CS and Cancer?

[STEVE LEVINE]

I remember the guy who made the Silvergen CS generator mentioned that he gave a 
gallon of CS to a friend with cancer and it cleared in a month. Silver 
apparently causes cancer cells to dedifferentiate (change back to normal cells).

Steve


> On September 22, 2021 at 8:24 PM Williams  wrote:
> 
> 
> I heard (from a reliable source) drinking a couple of quarts of CS per day 
> kills cancer cells.  
> didn't get all the info.  This is a miracle breakthrough, or a cruel hoax.  
> Anyone had any experience with CS and Cancer?
> 
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CS>CS and Cancer?

[Williams]

I heard (from a reliable source) drinking a couple of quarts of CS per day 
kills cancer cells.  
didn't get all the info.  This is a miracle breakthrough, or a cruel hoax.  
Anyone had any experience with CS and Cancer?


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Re: CS>CS and cancer treatment

[Lola Harris]

I forgot to mention that in both instances of cancer, I had surgery to remove 
the tumors.  Whether I 
am just dumb lucky or whether I had skilled surgeons who 'got it all', I don't 
know.  But the immunesystem is key as well as studying, studying, research, 
research.  Rarely does any one protocol work alonewhen using alternatives.  You 
usually need two or three things going on at any given time. And it is 
imperative to know the modality... that is ...  how the protocols work so you 
don't have them cancelling each other out or working at odds with one 
another.Lola
- Original Message -
From: Lola Harris 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 20:14:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: CS>CS and cancer treatment

 body {height: 100%; color:#00; font-size:12pt; font-family:times new 
roman, new york, times, serif;}I am a 17 yr survivor of bladder cancer and 10 
yr survivor of breast cancer... refused chemo and radiation in both
instances.  Not recommending that for anyone else.  Just my personal choice.  
Took Avemar, MGN 3, AHCC-Immpower, Noni (fresh from Hawaii), practiced Spring 
Forest Qigong religiously the first 5 - 6 yrs (nothing afterthe bladder 
cancer).  Cleaned house and hygience products of all commercial 
products/toxins, eat as organicallyas I can afford, country well water and eat 
'Zone' in order to control blood sugar spikes and avoid sugar, highglycemic 
foods. I now cycle thru several alternatives a few times per year for 
maintenance, none of which are considered 'heavy hitters'.I tend to like 
alternatives that have some science behind them.Lola
- Original Message -
From: Isa M 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 17:17:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: CS>CS and cancer treatment

Formula F3  BSF helps a lot, Bio Algae Concentrate:
http://www.bionutrition.ca/eng/product/
2015-08-23 20:55 GMT+02:00 John A Venturini :
You need to stop all foods that either feeds cancer (sugar) or creates  a 
environment  for is to multiple. You need to keep your body Alkaline, not 
acidic. cancer thrives in acid bodies, it can't live in a alkaline body. Raw 
diet with fruits and vegetables are a must. give up all acidic foods.   
Wheatgrass juice has been use by Ann Wigmore to cure cancer. Google "Ann 
Wigmore" and go to wheatgrasskits.com to buy everything you need to grow your 
own. Also essaic tea had work for many in Canada.   


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effective ways to overcome cancer as well as conventional methods.

Janice.

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Re: CS>CS and cancer treatment

[Lola Harris]

I am a 17 yr survivor of bladder cancer and 10 yr survivor of breast cancer... 
refused chemo and radiation in both
instances.  Not recommending that for anyone else.  Just my personal choice.  
Took Avemar, MGN 3, AHCC-
Immpower, Noni (fresh from Hawaii), practiced Spring Forest Qigong religiously 
the first 5 - 6 yrs (nothing after
the bladder cancer).  Cleaned house and hygience products of all commercial 
products/toxins, eat as organically
as I can afford, country well water and eat 'Zone' in order to control blood 
sugar spikes and avoid sugar, high
glycemic foods.
 
I now cycle thru several alternatives a few times per year for maintenance, 
none of which are considered 'heavy hitters'.
I tend to like alternatives that have some science behind them.
Lola


- Original Message -
From: Isa M 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 17:17:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: CS>CS and cancer treatment



Formula F3  BSF helps a lot, Bio Algae Concentrate:
http://www.bionutrition.ca/eng/product/


2015-08-23 20:55 GMT+02:00 John A Venturini :




You need to stop all foods that either feeds cancer (sugar) or creates  a 
environment  for is to multiple. You need to keep your body Alkaline, not 
acidic. cancer thrives in acid bodies, it can't live in a alkaline body. Raw 
diet with fruits and vegetables are a must. give up all acidic foods.   
Wheatgrass juice has been use by Ann Wigmore to cure cancer. Google "Ann 
Wigmore" and go to wheatgrasskits.com to buy everything you need to grow your 
own. Also essaic tea had work for many in Canada.   








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effective ways to overcome cancer as well as conventional methods.


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Re: CS>CS and cancer treatment

[Isa M]

Formula F3  BSF helps a lot, Bio Algae Concentrate:
http://www.bionutrition.ca/eng/product/

2015-08-23 20:55 GMT+02:00 John A Venturini :

> You need to stop all foods that either feeds cancer (sugar) or creates  a
> environment  for is to multiple. You need to keep your body Alkaline, not
> acidic. cancer thrives in acid bodies, it can't live in a alkaline body.
> Raw diet with fruits and vegetables are a must. give up all acidic foods.
> Wheatgrass juice has been use by Ann Wigmore to cure cancer. Google "Ann
> Wigmore" and go to wheatgrasskits.com to buy everything you need to grow
> your own. Also essaic tea had work for many in Canada.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, August 22, 2015 12:35 AM, Janice Rutledge <
> bonniet...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Anyone know anything about Colloidal Silver and cancer.  I am looking for
> effective ways to overcome cancer as well as conventional methods.
>
> Janice.
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Re: CS>CS and cancer treatment

[John A Venturini]

You need to stop all foods that either feeds cancer (sugar) or creates  a 
environment  for is to multiple. You need to keep your body Alkaline, not 
acidic. cancer thrives in acid bodies, it can't live in a alkaline body. Raw 
diet with fruits and vegetables are a must. give up all acidic foods.   
Wheatgrass juice has been use by Ann Wigmore to cure cancer. Google "Ann 
Wigmore" and go to wheatgrasskits.com to buy everything you need to grow your 
own. Also essaic tea had work for many in Canada.    


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Re: CS>CS and cancer treatment

[Dee]

Honey is still sugar although it has other beneficial things in it I believe.  
I'm not sure about coconut sugarDee

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> I made an error - I meant to say other forms of sugar from fruit --- not 
> fructose 
> What about coconut sugar (low glycemic) --- raw honey?
> Stevia?
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Re: CS>CS and cancer treatment

[Dee]

Well I guess that smaller amounts would be absorbed by the solid matter in the 
digestive system and then not be a problem because CS has to be in contact with 
the pathogen/bacteria to kill it.  A larger amount I would think maybe would 
have a bigger impact - especially on an empty stomach.  Probably not on a full 
one though...Dee

Sent from my iPad

> On 22 Aug 2015, at 13:05, Kirsteen Wright  
> wrote:
> 
> I'm curious.  Are you saying that ingesting it through the day would not 
> interfere with the microbiome whereas taking it all at once would?
> 
> Cheers 
> Kirsteen
> 
>> On 22 Aug 2015 12:27, "Dee"  wrote:
>> Especially all forms of fructose!  White sugar is actually better than 
>> fructose because it is made up of glucose - which the body can handle - and 
>> fructose - which the body can't.  Most processed food contains HFCS (high 
>> fructose corn syrup) even bread etc., which the liver just can't metabolise 
>> and is probably the biggest cause of most disease today.  The CS would have 
>> been ingested throughout the day I would imagine, in case of interfering 
>> with the microbiomeDee
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> > On 22 Aug 2015, at 11:48, RaVen  wrote:
>> >
>> > When drinking a pint of CS a day -- it's in small doses all through out - 
>> > correct? How much is safe to drink every so hours?
>> > Secondly, curious - when stating no sugar - does this mean white sugar 
>> > only - or all forms of fructose?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Aug 22, 2015, at 3:41 AM, Dee  wrote:
>> >
>> > Broccoli, probiotics, Parent Essential Oils (not fish oils - see Brian 
>> > Peskin) Vitamin D3 and Vitamin K2, iodine, have all been mentioned as 
>> > anti-cancer agents.  A friend of mines husband beat breast cancer using 
>> > such things, and also drinking a pint of CS a day.also eating NO sugar 
>> > as this feeds cancer.  Maybe something like Serrapeptase as well would 
>> > help.Dee
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPad
>> >
>> >> On 22 Aug 2015, at 05:35, Janice Rutledge  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Anyone know anything about Colloidal Silver and cancer.  I am looking for 
>> >> effective ways to overcome cancer as well as conventional methods.
>> >>
>> >> Janice.
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Re: CS>CS and cancer treatment

[RaVen]

I made an error - I meant to say other forms of sugar from fruit --- not 
fructose 
What about coconut sugar (low glycemic) --- raw honey?
Stevia?



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Re: CS>CS and cancer treatment

[Kirsteen Wright]

I'm curious.  Are you saying that ingesting it through the day would not
interfere with the microbiome whereas taking it all at once would?

Cheers
Kirsteen
On 22 Aug 2015 12:27, "Dee"  wrote:

> Especially all forms of fructose!  White sugar is actually better than
> fructose because it is made up of glucose - which the body can handle - and
> fructose - which the body can't.  Most processed food contains HFCS (high
> fructose corn syrup) even bread etc., which the liver just can't metabolise
> and is probably the biggest cause of most disease today.  The CS would have
> been ingested throughout the day I would imagine, in case of interfering
> with the microbiomeDee
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 22 Aug 2015, at 11:48, RaVen  wrote:
> >
> > When drinking a pint of CS a day -- it's in small doses all through out
> - correct? How much is safe to drink every so hours?
> > Secondly, curious - when stating no sugar - does this mean white sugar
> only - or all forms of fructose?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Aug 22, 2015, at 3:41 AM, Dee  wrote:
> >
> > Broccoli, probiotics, Parent Essential Oils (not fish oils - see Brian
> Peskin) Vitamin D3 and Vitamin K2, iodine, have all been mentioned as
> anti-cancer agents.  A friend of mines husband beat breast cancer using
> such things, and also drinking a pint of CS a day.also eating NO sugar
> as this feeds cancer.  Maybe something like Serrapeptase as well would
> help.Dee
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On 22 Aug 2015, at 05:35, Janice Rutledge 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Anyone know anything about Colloidal Silver and cancer.  I am looking
> for effective ways to overcome cancer as well as conventional methods.
> >>
> >> Janice.
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Re: CS>CS and cancer treatment

[Dee]

Especially all forms of fructose!  White sugar is actually better than fructose 
because it is made up of glucose - which the body can handle - and fructose - 
which the body can't.  Most processed food contains HFCS (high fructose corn 
syrup) even bread etc., which the liver just can't metabolise and is probably 
the biggest cause of most disease today.  The CS would have been ingested 
throughout the day I would imagine, in case of interfering with the 
microbiomeDee

Sent from my iPad

> On 22 Aug 2015, at 11:48, RaVen  wrote:
> 
> When drinking a pint of CS a day -- it's in small doses all through out - 
> correct? How much is safe to drink every so hours? 
> Secondly, curious - when stating no sugar - does this mean white sugar only - 
> or all forms of fructose?
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 22, 2015, at 3:41 AM, Dee  wrote:
> 
> Broccoli, probiotics, Parent Essential Oils (not fish oils - see Brian 
> Peskin) Vitamin D3 and Vitamin K2, iodine, have all been mentioned as 
> anti-cancer agents.  A friend of mines husband beat breast cancer using such 
> things, and also drinking a pint of CS a day.also eating NO sugar as this 
> feeds cancer.  Maybe something like Serrapeptase as well would help.Dee
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 22 Aug 2015, at 05:35, Janice Rutledge  wrote:
>> 
>> Anyone know anything about Colloidal Silver and cancer.  I am looking for 
>> effective ways to overcome cancer as well as conventional methods.
>> 
>> Janice.
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Re: CS>CS and cancer treatment

[RaVen]

When drinking a pint of CS a day -- it's in small doses all through out - 
correct? How much is safe to drink every so hours? 
Secondly, curious - when stating no sugar - does this mean white sugar only - 
or all forms of fructose?



On Aug 22, 2015, at 3:41 AM, Dee  wrote:

Broccoli, probiotics, Parent Essential Oils (not fish oils - see Brian Peskin) 
Vitamin D3 and Vitamin K2, iodine, have all been mentioned as anti-cancer 
agents.  A friend of mines husband beat breast cancer using such things, and 
also drinking a pint of CS a day.also eating NO sugar as this feeds cancer. 
 Maybe something like Serrapeptase as well would help.Dee

Sent from my iPad

> On 22 Aug 2015, at 05:35, Janice Rutledge  wrote:
> 
> Anyone know anything about Colloidal Silver and cancer.  I am looking for 
> effective ways to overcome cancer as well as conventional methods.
> 
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Re: CS>CS and cancer treatment

[Isa M]

If he can reach the tumor via catheter. If not, by surgery (with HIS
method) followed by one month treatment  injecting sodium bicarbonate
solution.


2015-08-22 10:44 GMT+02:00 Dee :

> I believe he injects it into the tumoursDee
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 22 Aug 2015, at 09:40, Isa M  wrote:
>
> Look at Simoncini Tullio - an oncologist who treats cancer with sodium
> bicarbonate. He removed my breast tumor with his method
> http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/en/
> You can also look at Biosuperfood BAC (Bio algae concentrate) formula F3+
> - which will certainly help. .
> .
>
> 2015-08-22 10:09 GMT+02:00 Dee :
>
>> Baking soda has had success when injected into tumours but to take it
>> orally is not good because it neutralises stomach acid which would prevent
>> the proper absorption of nutrients - which is not a wise thing to doDee
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On 22 Aug 2015, at 08:54, Smitty  wrote:
>>
>> Google baking soda and molasses
>> Smitty
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Dee  wrote:
>>
>>> Broccoli, probiotics, Parent Essential Oils (not fish oils - see Brian
>>> Peskin) Vitamin D3 and Vitamin K2, iodine, have all been mentioned as
>>> anti-cancer agents.  A friend of mines husband beat breast cancer using
>>> such things, and also drinking a pint of CS a day.also eating NO sugar
>>> as this feeds cancer.  Maybe something like Serrapeptase as well would
>>> help.Dee
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> > On 22 Aug 2015, at 05:35, Janice Rutledge 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Anyone know anything about Colloidal Silver and cancer.  I am looking
>>> for effective ways to overcome cancer as well as conventional methods.
>>> >
>>> > Janice.
>>> >
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>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: CS>CS and cancer treatment

[Isa M]

Look at Simoncini Tullio - an oncologist who treats cancer with sodium
bicarbonate. He removed my breast tumor with his method
http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/en/
You can also look at Biosuperfood BAC (Bio algae concentrate) formula F3+ -
which will certainly help. .
.

2015-08-22 10:09 GMT+02:00 Dee :

> Baking soda has had success when injected into tumours but to take it
> orally is not good because it neutralises stomach acid which would prevent
> the proper absorption of nutrients - which is not a wise thing to doDee
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 22 Aug 2015, at 08:54, Smitty  wrote:
>
> Google baking soda and molasses
> Smitty
>
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Dee  wrote:
>
>> Broccoli, probiotics, Parent Essential Oils (not fish oils - see Brian
>> Peskin) Vitamin D3 and Vitamin K2, iodine, have all been mentioned as
>> anti-cancer agents.  A friend of mines husband beat breast cancer using
>> such things, and also drinking a pint of CS a day.also eating NO sugar
>> as this feeds cancer.  Maybe something like Serrapeptase as well would
>> help.Dee
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> > On 22 Aug 2015, at 05:35, Janice Rutledge 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Anyone know anything about Colloidal Silver and cancer.  I am looking
>> for effective ways to overcome cancer as well as conventional methods.
>> >
>> > Janice.
>> >
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>

Re: CS>CS and cancer treatment

[Dee]

I believe he injects it into the tumoursDee

Sent from my iPad

> On 22 Aug 2015, at 09:40, Isa M  wrote:
> 
> Look at Simoncini Tullio - an oncologist who treats cancer with sodium 
> bicarbonate. He removed my breast tumor with his method  
> http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/en/
> You can also look at Biosuperfood BAC (Bio algae concentrate) formula F3+ - 
> which will certainly help. . 
> . 
> 
> 2015-08-22 10:09 GMT+02:00 Dee :
>> Baking soda has had success when injected into tumours but to take it orally 
>> is not good because it neutralises stomach acid which would prevent the 
>> proper absorption of nutrients - which is not a wise thing to doDee
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 22 Aug 2015, at 08:54, Smitty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Google baking soda and molasses
>>> Smitty
>>> 
 On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Dee  wrote:
 Broccoli, probiotics, Parent Essential Oils (not fish oils - see Brian 
 Peskin) Vitamin D3 and Vitamin K2, iodine, have all been mentioned as 
 anti-cancer agents.  A friend of mines husband beat breast cancer using 
 such things, and also drinking a pint of CS a day.also eating NO sugar 
 as this feeds cancer.  Maybe something like Serrapeptase as well would 
 help.Dee
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 > On 22 Aug 2015, at 05:35, Janice Rutledge  wrote:
 >
 > Anyone know anything about Colloidal Silver and cancer.  I am looking 
 > for effective ways to overcome cancer as well as conventional methods.
 >
 > Janice.
 >
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Re: CS>CS and cancer treatment

[Dee]

Baking soda has had success when injected into tumours but to take it orally is 
not good because it neutralises stomach acid which would prevent the proper 
absorption of nutrients - which is not a wise thing to doDee

Sent from my iPad

> On 22 Aug 2015, at 08:54, Smitty  wrote:
> 
> Google baking soda and molasses
> Smitty
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Dee  wrote:
>> Broccoli, probiotics, Parent Essential Oils (not fish oils - see Brian 
>> Peskin) Vitamin D3 and Vitamin K2, iodine, have all been mentioned as 
>> anti-cancer agents.  A friend of mines husband beat breast cancer using such 
>> things, and also drinking a pint of CS a day.also eating NO sugar as 
>> this feeds cancer.  Maybe something like Serrapeptase as well would 
>> help.Dee
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> > On 22 Aug 2015, at 05:35, Janice Rutledge  wrote:
>> >
>> > Anyone know anything about Colloidal Silver and cancer.  I am looking for 
>> > effective ways to overcome cancer as well as conventional methods.
>> >
>> > Janice.
>> >
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Re: CS>CS and cancer treatment

[Smitty]

Google baking soda and molasses
Smitty

On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Dee  wrote:

> Broccoli, probiotics, Parent Essential Oils (not fish oils - see Brian
> Peskin) Vitamin D3 and Vitamin K2, iodine, have all been mentioned as
> anti-cancer agents.  A friend of mines husband beat breast cancer using
> such things, and also drinking a pint of CS a day.also eating NO sugar
> as this feeds cancer.  Maybe something like Serrapeptase as well would
> help.Dee
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 22 Aug 2015, at 05:35, Janice Rutledge 
> wrote:
> >
> > Anyone know anything about Colloidal Silver and cancer.  I am looking
> for effective ways to overcome cancer as well as conventional methods.
> >
> > Janice.
> >
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Re: CS>CS and cancer treatment

[Dee]

Broccoli, probiotics, Parent Essential Oils (not fish oils - see Brian Peskin) 
Vitamin D3 and Vitamin K2, iodine, have all been mentioned as anti-cancer 
agents.  A friend of mines husband beat breast cancer using such things, and 
also drinking a pint of CS a day.also eating NO sugar as this feeds cancer. 
 Maybe something like Serrapeptase as well would help.Dee

Sent from my iPad

> On 22 Aug 2015, at 05:35, Janice Rutledge  wrote:
> 
> Anyone know anything about Colloidal Silver and cancer.  I am looking for 
> effective ways to overcome cancer as well as conventional methods.
> 
> Janice.
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CS>CS and cancer treatment

[Janice Rutledge]

Anyone know anything about Colloidal Silver and cancer.  I am looking for 
effective ways to overcome cancer as well as conventional methods.

Janice.

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Re: CS>CS and Cancer? +hempseed oil

[123 456]

Hi Everyone,
If you can find something tha twill reduce the inflammation tehn
everythign will heal more qickly.
For me and my pets it's the hempseed oil, NO dairy of ANY sort and
those grape seeds and their extracts.
Even something as common as cammomile tea will sooth the inflamation
in the organs.
Stay happy and laugh lots.
Take  care,
Tara

On 8/31/12, Bob Banever  wrote:
> I cured my dog of a mucoseal, an infection of the lining of his gall
> bladder, with silver tetroxide.  Cured him in 2 days after the vet said
> surgery is the only option.  Good luck.  Bob
>
>
>
>   _
>
> From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org]
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 8:48 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>CS and Cancer? +hempseed oil
>
>
>
> I'm glad it is working out for you Kirsteen, I'm sure you are taking all
> the
> natural things to combat the drugs as well - as you say.  Good luck with it
> all.. Best regards dee
>
>
>
>   _
>
> From: Kirsteen Wright 
> Reply-To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 15:19:59 +0100
> To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
> Subject: Re: CS>CS and Cancer? +hempseed oil
> Resent-From: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
> Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 07:19:59 -0700
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks for that Kirsteen.  I suppose it is the form it takes which makes it
> legal/illegal.   Ours not to reason why.  How are you by the way?  dee
>
>
> hi Dee
>
> I'm not bad only 2 more cancer treatments to go but they had to be put on
> hold as my digestive probs started up again. Doc thinks it's an infected
> and
> inflamed gallbladder so I've had to go on dreaded antiobiotics :-(.
> However
> they do seem to be working so I'm just digging out the probiotics and
> eating
> loads of kimchi.
>
> Hopefully I'll get another herceptin treatment on Tuesday and then just one
> more in 3 weeks and that'll be me - just yearly checkups- Yeah :-)
>
> The real problem is that all these issues make the M.E. so much worse. I
> can
> now only stand for about 5 minutes and can only sit upright for about 15
> before I keel over and any exhertion at all has me laid up for days but
> hopefully once all the other problems are dealt with this might improve a
> bit.
>
> Cheers
> Kirsteen
>
>


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RE: CS>CS and Cancer? +hempseed oil

[Bob Banever]

I cured my dog of a mucoseal, an infection of the lining of his gall
bladder, with silver tetroxide.  Cured him in 2 days after the vet said
surgery is the only option.  Good luck.  Bob

 

  _  

From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 8:48 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>CS and Cancer? +hempseed oil

 

I'm glad it is working out for you Kirsteen, I'm sure you are taking all the
natural things to combat the drugs as well - as you say.  Good luck with it
all.. Best regards dee



  _  

From: Kirsteen Wright 
Reply-To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 15:19:59 +0100
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Subject: Re: CS>CS and Cancer? +hempseed oil
Resent-From: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 07:19:59 -0700



On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
wrote:

Thanks for that Kirsteen.  I suppose it is the form it takes which makes it
legal/illegal.   Ours not to reason why.  How are you by the way?  dee


hi Dee

I'm not bad only 2 more cancer treatments to go but they had to be put on
hold as my digestive probs started up again. Doc thinks it's an infected and
inflamed gallbladder so I've had to go on dreaded antiobiotics :-(.  However
they do seem to be working so I'm just digging out the probiotics and eating
loads of kimchi.

Hopefully I'll get another herceptin treatment on Tuesday and then just one
more in 3 weeks and that'll be me - just yearly checkups- Yeah :-)

The real problem is that all these issues make the M.E. so much worse. I can
now only stand for about 5 minutes and can only sit upright for about 15
before I keel over and any exhertion at all has me laid up for days but
hopefully once all the other problems are dealt with this might improve a
bit.

Cheers
Kirsteen

Re: CS>CS and Cancer? +hempseed oil

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I¹m glad it is working out for you Kirsteen, I¹m sure you are taking all the
natural things to combat the drugs as well - as you say.  Good luck with it
all.. Best regards dee



From: Kirsteen Wright 
Reply-To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 15:19:59 +0100
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Subject: Re: CS>CS and Cancer? +hempseed oil
Resent-From: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 07:19:59 -0700



On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
wrote:
> Thanks for that Kirsteen.  I suppose it is the form it takes which makes it
> legal/illegal.   Ours not to reason why.  How are you by the way?  dee

hi Dee

I'm not bad only 2 more cancer treatments to go but they had to be put on
hold as my digestive probs started up again. Doc thinks it's an infected and
inflamed gallbladder so I've had to go on dreaded antiobiotics :-(.  However
they do seem to be working so I'm just digging out the probiotics and eating
loads of kimchi.

Hopefully I'll get another herceptin treatment on Tuesday and then just one
more in 3 weeks and that'll be me - just yearly checkups- Yeah :-)

The real problem is that all these issues make the M.E. so much worse. I can
now only stand for about 5 minutes and can only sit upright for about 15
before I keel over and any exhertion at all has me laid up for days but
hopefully once all the other problems are dealt with this might improve a
bit.

Cheers
Kirsteen

Re: CS>CS and Cancer? +hempseed oil

[Kirsteen Wright]

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

>  Thanks for that Kirsteen.  I suppose it is the form it takes which makes
> it legal/illegal.   Ours not to reason why.  How are you by the way?  dee
>

hi Dee

I'm not bad only 2 more cancer treatments to go but they had to be put on
hold as my digestive probs started up again. Doc thinks it's an infected
and inflamed gallbladder so I've had to go on dreaded antiobiotics :-(.
However they do seem to be working so I'm just digging out the probiotics
and eating loads of kimchi.

Hopefully I'll get another herceptin treatment on Tuesday and then just one
more in 3 weeks and that'll be me - just yearly checkups- Yeah :-)

The real problem is that all these issues make the M.E. so much worse. I
can now only stand for about 5 minutes and can only sit upright for about
15 before I keel over and any exhertion at all has me laid up for days but
hopefully once all the other problems are dealt with this might improve a
bit.

Cheers
Kirsteen

Re: CS>CS and Cancer? +hempseed oil

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I think this is what I had in mind Bob, as I had just watched a program on
marijuana (thanks for the spelling!) and its therapeutic effects for cancer.
I sort of thought that the oil which can be bought over the counter would
not be the same thing.  Thanks for the info.  dee



From: Bob Banever 
Reply-To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 06:44:39 -0700
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Subject: RE: CS>CS and Cancer? +hempseed oil
Resent-From: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 06:44:24 -0700

Hemp seed oil, the kind sold in health food stores, is NOT the same as hemp
oil used to treat cancer.  Marijuana or hemp oil is psychoactive and
contains dozens of cannabinoids to combat the disease icluding CBD and THC.
Hemp seed oil is made from seeds from industrial hempŠ a cousin but not the
same plant.  There is almost no THC in the oil, thus no therapeutic effect.
 


From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org]
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 3:10 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>CS and Cancer? +hempseed oil
 
Thanks for that Kirsteen.  I suppose it is the form it takes which makes it
legal/illegal.   Ours not to reason why.  How are you by the way?  dee

RE: CS>CS and Cancer? +hempseed oil

[Bob Banever]

Hemp seed oil, the kind sold in health food stores, is NOT the same as hemp
oil used to treat cancer.  Marijuana or hemp oil is psychoactive and
contains dozens of cannabinoids to combat the disease icluding CBD and THC.
Hemp seed oil is made from seeds from industrial hemp. a cousin but not the
same plant.  There is almost no THC in the oil, thus no therapeutic effect.

 

  _  

From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 3:10 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>CS and Cancer? +hempseed oil

 

Thanks for that Kirsteen.  I suppose it is the form it takes which makes it
legal/illegal.   Ours not to reason why.  How are you by the way?  dee



  _  

From: Kirsteen Wright 
Reply-To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:00:44 +0100
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Subject: Re: CS>CS and Cancer? +hempseed oil
Resent-From: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:00:44 -0700



On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
wrote:

Can we buy hemp oil as this is the cannabis plant isn't it?  Illegal
here in the UK.  


Hi Dee

I use Nutiva organic cold-pressed hemp oil on my salads all the time. I buy
it in grassroots, our local organic store. I'm pretty sure if I can buy it
here in Scotland, you should be able to get it down there. Actually if you
do a google search, there's loads of places selling it.

chheers
Kirsteen

Re: CS>CS and Cancer? +hempseed oil

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Thanks for that Kirsteen.  I suppose it is the form it takes which makes it
legal/illegal.   Ours not to reason why.  How are you by the way?  dee



From: Kirsteen Wright 
Reply-To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:00:44 +0100
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Subject: Re: CS>CS and Cancer? +hempseed oil
Resent-From: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:00:44 -0700



On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
wrote:
>  Can we buy hemp oil as this is the cannabis plant isn't it?  Illegal
> here in the UK.  

Hi Dee

I use Nutiva organic cold-pressed hemp oil on my salads all the time. I buy
it in grassroots, our local organic store. I'm pretty sure if I can buy it
here in Scotland, you should be able to get it down there. Actually if you
do a google search, there's loads of places selling it.

chheers
Kirsteen

Re: CS>CS and Cancer? +hempseed oil

[Kirsteen Wright]

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

> Can we buy hemp oil as this is the cannabis plant isn't it?  Illegal
> here in the UK.
>

Hi Dee

I use Nutiva organic cold-pressed hemp oil on my salads all the time. I buy
it in grassroots, our local organic store. I'm pretty sure if I can buy it
here in Scotland, you should be able to get it down there. Actually if you
do a google search, there's loads of places selling it.

chheers
Kirsteen

Re: CS>CS and Cancer? +hempseed oil

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Thanks for the info Tara I will look into it.  dee


> From: 123 456 
> Reply-To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 09:11:59 -0400
> To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
> Subject: Re: CS>CS and Cancer? +hempseed oil
> Resent-From: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
> Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 06:11:58 -0700
> 
> Hi Dee, So sorry to see that the health food stores if there are any
> left in the UK is so unenlightened as to not allow the very safe and
> legal oils like the hempSEED oil not to be sold.
> No, it is not the same as the M--a plant. this is the offinalis
> variety not the type you smoke, no reason to be banned.
> Maybe try ordering it on line?
> The oregano oil only works for viruss' and boy does it ever.
> Not pleasent to take but very effective for anythng that the
> anit-biotics cannot touch.
> Cheers,
> Tara
> 
> On 8/30/12, Dorothy Fitzpatrick  wrote:
>> Did you try oil of oregano Tara - sorry I forgot if you have already said
>> this?  Can we buy hemp oil as this is the cannabis plant isn't it?  Illegal
>> here in the UK.  I know they have had dramatic results with this with
>> cancer
>> in the US, but of course here it is not allowed.  Tobacco and alchohol are
>> of course, because they don't damage anyone - do they?  (heavy sarcasm
>> here!)  dee
>> 
>> 
>>> From: 123 456 
>>> Reply-To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
>>> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 08:52:15 -0400
>>> To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
>>> Subject: Re: CS>CS and Cancer? +hempseed oil
>>> Resent-From: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
>>> Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 05:52:15 -0700
>>> 
>>> Hi Susie,
>>> I was using CS as a sinus rinse. O maGwd did it ever work.
>>> It might be best to mix it with a little salt in the distilled water
>>> though because it hurt like anything.
>>> I'm also now using hemp oil on both myself and my little Burmese girl
>>> friend here.
>>> She has the same condition I was suffering from, infected teeth/ root
>>> canal that went bad.
>>> Slowly slowly it is being repaired/healed. The hempseed oil is a
>>> dramatic addition and I highly recommend trying it for everyone,
>>> taking CS or not.
>>> SO healing  it is making all the difference.
>>> Sometimes those anti-biotics just make the situation worse, weakens
>>> the body and causes more problems.
>>> Just a thought.
>>> Tara
>>> ___
>>> 
>> 
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Re: CS>CS and Cancer?

[sol]

goofeygalpal wrote:

My cat Reilly has been diagnosed with cancer
You might like to join SilverPets and ask there if anyone has anything 
to add to Reilly's treatment.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilverPets/join

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Re: CS>CS and Cancer? +hempseed oil

[123 456]

Hi Dee, So sorry to see that the health food stores if there are any
left in the UK is so unenlightened as to not allow the very safe and
legal oils like the hempSEED oil not to be sold.
No, it is not the same as the M--a plant. this is the offinalis
variety not the type you smoke, no reason to be banned.
Maybe try ordering it on line?
The oregano oil only works for viruss' and boy does it ever.
Not pleasent to take but very effective for anythng that the
anit-biotics cannot touch.
Cheers,
Tara

On 8/30/12, Dorothy Fitzpatrick  wrote:
> Did you try oil of oregano Tara - sorry I forgot if you have already said
> this?  Can we buy hemp oil as this is the cannabis plant isn't it?  Illegal
> here in the UK.  I know they have had dramatic results with this with
> cancer
> in the US, but of course here it is not allowed.  Tobacco and alchohol are
> of course, because they don't damage anyone - do they?  (heavy sarcasm
> here!)  dee
>
>
>> From: 123 456 
>> Reply-To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
>> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 08:52:15 -0400
>> To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
>> Subject: Re: CS>CS and Cancer? +hempseed oil
>> Resent-From: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
>> Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 05:52:15 -0700
>>
>> Hi Susie,
>> I was using CS as a sinus rinse. O maGwd did it ever work.
>> It might be best to mix it with a little salt in the distilled water
>> though because it hurt like anything.
>> I'm also now using hemp oil on both myself and my little Burmese girl
>> friend here.
>> She has the same condition I was suffering from, infected teeth/ root
>> canal that went bad.
>> Slowly slowly it is being repaired/healed. The hempseed oil is a
>> dramatic addition and I highly recommend trying it for everyone,
>> taking CS or not.
>> SO healing  it is making all the difference.
>> Sometimes those anti-biotics just make the situation worse, weakens
>> the body and causes more problems.
>> Just a thought.
>> Tara
>> ___
>>
>
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Re: CS>CS and Cancer? +hempseed oil

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Did you try oil of oregano Tara - sorry I forgot if you have already said
this?  Can we buy hemp oil as this is the cannabis plant isn't it?  Illegal
here in the UK.  I know they have had dramatic results with this with cancer
in the US, but of course here it is not allowed.  Tobacco and alchohol are
of course, because they don't damage anyone - do they?  (heavy sarcasm
here!)  dee


> From: 123 456 
> Reply-To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 08:52:15 -0400
> To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
> Subject: Re: CS>CS and Cancer? +hempseed oil
> Resent-From: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
> Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 05:52:15 -0700
> 
> Hi Susie,
> I was using CS as a sinus rinse. O maGwd did it ever work.
> It might be best to mix it with a little salt in the distilled water
> though because it hurt like anything.
> I'm also now using hemp oil on both myself and my little Burmese girl
> friend here.
> She has the same condition I was suffering from, infected teeth/ root
> canal that went bad.
> Slowly slowly it is being repaired/healed. The hempseed oil is a
> dramatic addition and I highly recommend trying it for everyone,
> taking CS or not.
> SO healing  it is making all the difference.
> Sometimes those anti-biotics just make the situation worse, weakens
> the body and causes more problems.
> Just a thought.
> Tara
> ___
> 



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Re: CS>CS and Cancer?

[Tony Moody]

Hi Susie,

I would start off the CS to reilly the cat by putting a bowl of it next to the 
plain water bowl so 
that he has a choice. They seem to like to have both sometimes. When I had cats 
I would 
change and clean the bowl(s) once a day.  

The main 'dosing' was via the food. I would add some CS directly to whatever 
solids they got 
and they'd usually polish that. 

OK,
Tony

On 29 Aug 2012 at 11:31, goofeygalpal wrote about :
Subject : CS>CS and Cancer?

> My cat Reilly has been diagnosed with cancer and he's under the care of a
> holistic, specifically TCM veterinarian and is on a couple traditional
> chinese herbal rx's specific for cancer, i also give him fat soluable
> curcumin (CuraMed) and a host of other things, namely Livon Labs lypo C a
> packet a day (i make my own DIY encapsulated C for my husband and me) and
> he is also getting C injected into the tumor site by his vet (his tumor is
> in his frontal forehead/sinuses) and the injectible C has had a
> demonstrable effect on the tumor!! He gets it twice weekly but now that
> it's been a month he goes in just once weekly...i'm hoping with the once
> weekly he doesn't regress.
> 
> I'm also starting him today on IP-6 and Essiac specifically formulated for
> pets (i don't want to go overboard w/supps as he is a CAT after all) and
> he is already taking AHCC and medicinal mushrooms with DMG and milk
> thistle,  he's never been vaccinated and he's been raised on a raw food
> diet (and still got cancer because he was born with a wonky immune
> system). BTW he doesn't act like he has cancer at all, the only clue i had
> was the lump growing above his nose and forehead and the nasal sounds he
> had been making for the past year although no one would have guessed it
> was cancer until the lump appeared :( Too bad because i could have started
> treatment a long time ago, the cat has energy, eats well, and doesn't
> exhibit any other symptoms.
> 
> Well to get to the point after all this research, on curezone people were
> bringing up CS, i have a generator and take CS and have given it to him in
> the past but i NEVER have seen it indicated as a cancer fighter! He has
> been on 6 wks antibiotics because of possible infection as infection in
> that area/sinuses is particularly tenaceous although he may not have one
> at all now, he takes his last antibiotic tomorrow, i have him on
> probiotics also but am wondering if i should give him daily CS IF IT
> INDEED IS an important arsenal in cancer fighting? I will have him on
> daily probiotics as that is one thing i worry about with CS is it kills
> good gut bacteria. His vet did say if he survives this cancer he may
> always have problems with infections in that area. 
> 
> Thanks for any help!
> 
> Susie



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Re: CS>CS and Cancer?

[Craig Chamberlin]

Hi David & Susie,

If Reilly is being fed  raw food, most likely he won't consume enough 
EIS. Cats are urine concentrators and obtain almost all of their fluids 
from food (if it is wet or raw).
Cats drive to drink water is very low, unless they are diabetic or 
suffering kidney failure. 

I have four cats, all being fed wet food.  Over the course of a day if 
they drink an ounce between the four of them, they have consumed a lot 
of water.


If they are being fed dry food they will drink water, but not enough.  
They tend to be somewhat dehydrated.


If the EIS were injected beneath the skin, I would think they would 
absorb the EIS that way just fine. Or maybe directly into the tumor.


Dogs and people different story:)

FWIW,

Craig

David AuBuchon wrote:
I think replacing a pets drinking water with CS is an excellent idea 
if they have cancer.  It has shown anticancer effects in addition to 
killing infection.  I've read like 10 anecdotes in dogs and 20 in 
humans.  If he survives the cancer, you will have plenty of time to 
find some way to clean up sinus infection. 


David




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Re: CS>CS and Cancer?

[David AuBuchon]

I think replacing a pets drinking water with CS is an excellent idea if
they have cancer.  It has shown anticancer effects in addition to killing
infection.  I've read like 10 anecdotes in dogs and 20 in humans.  If he
survives the cancer, you will have plenty of time to find some way to clean
up sinus infection.

David

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Alan Jones  wrote:

> Check out cancertutor.org, it has all kinds of alternative cancer
> therapies, including some which use CS.
>
> -Alan
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 1:31 PM, goofeygalpal wrote:
>
>> **
>> My cat Reilly has been diagnosed with cancer and he's under the care of a
>> holistic, specifically TCM veterinarian and is on a couple traditional
>> chinese herbal rx's specific for cancer, i also give him fat soluable
>> curcumin (CuraMed) and a host of other things, namely Livon Labs lypo C a
>> packet a day (i make my own DIY encapsulated C for my husband and me) and
>> he is also getting C injected into the tumor site by his vet (his tumor is
>> in his frontal forehead/sinuses) and the injectible C has had a
>> demonstrable effect on the tumor!! He gets it twice weekly but now that
>> it's been a month he goes in just once weekly...i'm hoping with the once
>> weekly he doesn't regress.
>>
>> I'm also starting him today on IP-6 and Essiac specifically formulated
>> for pets (i don't want to go overboard w/supps as he is a CAT after all)
>> and he is already taking AHCC and medicinal mushrooms with DMG and milk
>> thistle,  he's never been vaccinated and he's been raised on a raw food
>> diet (and still got cancer because he was born with a wonky immune system).
>> BTW he doesn't act like he has cancer at all, the only clue i had was the
>> lump growing above his nose and forehead and the nasal sounds he had been
>> making for the past year although no one would have guessed it was cancer
>> until the lump appeared :( Too bad because i could have started treatment a
>> long time ago, the cat has energy, eats well, and doesn't exhibit any other
>> symptoms.
>>
>> Well to get to the point after all this research, on curezone people were
>> bringing up CS, i have a generator and take CS and have given it to him in
>> the past but i NEVER have seen it indicated as a cancer fighter! He has
>> been on 6 wks antibiotics because of possible infection as infection in
>> that area/sinuses is particularly tenaceous although he may not have one at
>> all now, he takes his last antibiotic tomorrow, i have him on probiotics
>> also but am wondering if i should give him daily CS IF IT INDEED IS an
>> important arsenal in cancer fighting? I will have him on daily probiotics
>> as that is one thing i worry about with CS is it kills good gut bacteria.
>> His vet did say if he survives this cancer he may always have problems with
>> infections in that area.
>>
>> Thanks for any help!
>>
>> Susie
>>
>
>
>
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>
> "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
> prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
> to the people."  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
>

Re: CS>CS and Cancer?

[Alan Jones]

Check out cancertutor.org, it has all kinds of alternative cancer
therapies, including some which use CS.

-Alan

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 1:31 PM, goofeygalpal wrote:

> **
> My cat Reilly has been diagnosed with cancer and he's under the care of a
> holistic, specifically TCM veterinarian and is on a couple traditional
> chinese herbal rx's specific for cancer, i also give him fat soluable
> curcumin (CuraMed) and a host of other things, namely Livon Labs lypo C a
> packet a day (i make my own DIY encapsulated C for my husband and me) and
> he is also getting C injected into the tumor site by his vet (his tumor is
> in his frontal forehead/sinuses) and the injectible C has had a
> demonstrable effect on the tumor!! He gets it twice weekly but now that
> it's been a month he goes in just once weekly...i'm hoping with the once
> weekly he doesn't regress.
>
> I'm also starting him today on IP-6 and Essiac specifically formulated for
> pets (i don't want to go overboard w/supps as he is a CAT after all) and he
> is already taking AHCC and medicinal mushrooms with DMG and milk thistle,
> he's never been vaccinated and he's been raised on a raw food diet (and
> still got cancer because he was born with a wonky immune system). BTW he
> doesn't act like he has cancer at all, the only clue i had was the lump
> growing above his nose and forehead and the nasal sounds he had been making
> for the past year although no one would have guessed it was cancer until
> the lump appeared :( Too bad because i could have started treatment a long
> time ago, the cat has energy, eats well, and doesn't exhibit any other
> symptoms.
>
> Well to get to the point after all this research, on curezone people were
> bringing up CS, i have a generator and take CS and have given it to him in
> the past but i NEVER have seen it indicated as a cancer fighter! He has
> been on 6 wks antibiotics because of possible infection as infection in
> that area/sinuses is particularly tenaceous although he may not have one at
> all now, he takes his last antibiotic tomorrow, i have him on probiotics
> also but am wondering if i should give him daily CS IF IT INDEED IS an
> important arsenal in cancer fighting? I will have him on daily probiotics
> as that is one thing i worry about with CS is it kills good gut bacteria.
> His vet did say if he survives this cancer he may always have problems with
> infections in that area.
>
> Thanks for any help!
>
> Susie
>



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CS>CS and Cancer?

[goofeygalpal]

My cat Reilly has been diagnosed with cancer and he's under the care of a 
holistic, specifically TCM veterinarian and is on a couple traditional chinese 
herbal rx's specific for cancer, i also give him fat soluable curcumin 
(CuraMed) and a host of other things, namely Livon Labs lypo C a packet a day 
(i make my own DIY encapsulated C for my husband and me) and he is also getting 
C injected into the tumor site by his vet (his tumor is in his frontal 
forehead/sinuses) and the injectible C has had a demonstrable effect on the 
tumor!! He gets it twice weekly but now that it's been a month he goes in just 
once weekly...i'm hoping with the once weekly he doesn't regress.

I'm also starting him today on IP-6 and Essiac specifically formulated for pets 
(i don't want to go overboard w/supps as he is a CAT after all) and he is 
already taking AHCC and medicinal mushrooms with DMG and milk thistle,  he's 
never been vaccinated and he's been raised on a raw food diet (and still got 
cancer because he was born with a wonky immune system). BTW he doesn't act like 
he has cancer at all, the only clue i had was the lump growing above his nose 
and forehead and the nasal sounds he had been making for the past year although 
no one would have guessed it was cancer until the lump appeared :( Too bad 
because i could have started treatment a long time ago, the cat has energy, 
eats well, and doesn't exhibit any other symptoms.

Well to get to the point after all this research, on curezone people were 
bringing up CS, i have a generator and take CS and have given it to him in the 
past but i NEVER have seen it indicated as a cancer fighter! He has been on 6 
wks antibiotics because of possible infection as infection in that area/sinuses 
is particularly tenaceous although he may not have one at all now, he takes his 
last antibiotic tomorrow, i have him on probiotics also but am wondering if i 
should give him daily CS IF IT INDEED IS an important arsenal in cancer 
fighting? I will have him on daily probiotics as that is one thing i worry 
about with CS is it kills good gut bacteria. His vet did say if he survives 
this cancer he may always have problems with infections in that area. 

Thanks for any help!

Susie

RE: CS>CS and Cancer

[Trem]

Dr. Robert O. Becker discovered it in 1973 in Vitro and published but the
info was not taken seriously.  We have lots' of anecdotal stories but don't
make much noise about it.  Low cost help isn't wanted.  Hurts bottom lines.

Trem



-Original Message-
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] 
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 5:37 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>CS and Cancer

good site Trem.  dee



On 18 May 2012, at 01:10, Trem wrote:

> Check this out.
http://www.anh-usa.org/oldest-antibiotic-shows-promise-as-anti-cancer/
>  
> Trem
>  


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Re: CS>CS and Cancer

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

good site Trem.  dee



On 18 May 2012, at 01:10, Trem wrote:

> Check this out.  
> http://www.anh-usa.org/oldest-antibiotic-shows-promise-as-anti-cancer/
>  
> Trem
>  


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Re: CS>CS and Cancer

[sol]

Bob,
  Interesting. I am familiar with artmesinin, and artemether, but 
didn't know it functioned by reacting with iron.

thanks,
sol

bbanever wrote:
   Yes iron is involved in cancer.  Most cancer cells have an excess 
of iron, that is why Artemisinin is effective for cancer (Chinese 
wormwood)... it reacts with iron (oxidative reaction) killing the 
cell.  It is also used to cure malaria... and the malaria spirochete 
has an exccess of iron as well.  Interesting...


 




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Re: CS>CS and Cancer

[ismail ziya]

Hi Debbie
 
I had an experience with CS and cancer but not only with CS. I had a friend who 
is diagnosed by prostate cancer and the doctors suggested immediate chemoterahy 
to him. I suggested him to use CS and blood electrifying for a period before 
making decission. He drinh one glass of home made CS in the morning and one 
glass in the night.. He applied blood electrifying 2 - 4 hours daily .  He did 
this for one month and then went to doctor for control . The doctors could not 
find any sign of cancer in his body after several tests and they told him he 
is free of cancer and perhaps they made a false diagnose in the begining. 
This is an experience I know but i am sure his belief that he is going to be 
cured with this teraphy also helped a lot. So what ever you decide to use tell 
your patient to create cure by his belief also.
 
Regards
 
Ismail  

--- On Sun, 10/12/08, djphe...@att.net  wrote:

From: djphe...@att.net 
Subject: CS>CS and Cancer
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 8:18 AM

Hi everyone.  I usually just lurk, so not many will recognize me.  I have
learned a lot from this group, and now I have a problem(s) that I hope some of
you can help with.

My future daughter-in-law, Natalie, is a chiropractor and nutrition specialist
who just found out her mother has a cancerous growth about the size of a
grapefruit in her stomach.  It has metastasized, too.  The Dr. told her she has
6-9 months to live.  We were stunned and shocked. I have read that the CS can
help with cancer, but has anyone had any experience with this, or know of
someone who has?

Of course, Natalie will be looking at all natural cures that she can, and they
probably will not use chemo or radiation.

On top of this, her father has prostrate cancer that they're treating with
hormone therapy, her brother has Crohn's disease, and one sister has joint
pains that the doctors don't know what it is.  So, Natalie has numerous
things she will be working on --- on top of wedding plans.

If any of you have information on any of these things, I would greatly
appreciate it, and I will pass it on to her.

Thanks in advance.

Debbie


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Re: CS>CS and Cancer

[bbanever]

Sol,

   Yes iron is involved in cancer.  Most cancer cells have an excess of 
iron, that is why Artemisinin is effective for cancer (Chinese wormwood)... 
it reacts with iron (oxidative reaction) killing the cell.  It is also used 
to cure malaria... and the malaria spirochete has an exccess of iron as 
well.  Interesting...


  Bob
- Original Message - 
From: "sol" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: CS>CS and Cancer


IP6 also blocks iron absorption, and some say can even chelate it. I'm 
reading so much about the connection between cancer and iron overload that 
it seems like a good idea for anyone with cancer to get a complete iron 
panel including ferritin, and find a doctor to order phlebotomies to 
reduce ferritin and keep it low. IP6 could thus serve more than one 
purpose, and if it does chelate iron as well as block absorption, that 
might be the mechanism by which helps?

sol

bbanever wrote:
If it were me, I'd certainly drink at least 8 oz of 10ppm CS daily, maybe 
more.  In addition I'd take oleander extract and IP6.   Oleander extract 
is called SutherlandiaOPC and their website is that name with a .com at 
the end.  IP6 is made by Cell Forte and is available at health food 
stores or from Utopia Silver.  It has shown good results with solid 
tumors.



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Re: CS>CS and Cancer

[sol]

IP6 also blocks iron absorption, and some say can even chelate it. I'm 
reading so much about the connection between cancer and iron overload 
that it seems like a good idea for anyone with cancer to get a complete 
iron panel including ferritin, and find a doctor to order phlebotomies 
to reduce ferritin and keep it low. IP6 could thus serve more than one 
purpose, and if it does chelate iron as well as block absorption, that 
might be the mechanism by which helps?

sol

bbanever wrote:
If it were me, I'd certainly drink at least 8 oz of 10ppm CS daily, 
maybe more.  In addition I'd take oleander extract and IP6.   Oleander 
extract is called SutherlandiaOPC and their website is that name with 
a .com at the end.  IP6 is made by Cell Forte and is available at 
health food stores or from Utopia Silver.  It has shown good results 
with solid tumors.  



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Re: CS>CS and Cancer

[Norton, Steve]

Tony Isaacs moderates the Oleandersoup Yahoo group and there tou can correspond 
directly with Tony and the other users of the oleander soup. You can make your 
own or buy it. I am a member of the group and highly recommend it. 
Another good source for alternative cancer treatments is www.cancertutor.com 
which has, in addition to a number of cancer cure alternatives,  an MMS 
treatment protocol called the Overnight Cure for Cancer (OCC) but it is very 
new and its effectiveness is not yet known. 
CS is great as part of a cancer cure but I would not depend on it alone. 
 - Steve N

- Original Message -
From: bbanever 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sun Oct 12 08:33:48 2008
Subject: Re: CS>CS and Cancer

Forgot to add another link with even more info.

http://www.tbyil.com/

Bob
- Original Message - 
From: "bbanever" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 6:32 AM
Subject: Re: CS>CS and Cancer


> If it were me, I'd certainly drink at least 8 oz of 10ppm CS daily, maybe 
> more.  In addition I'd take oleander extract and IP6.   Oleander extract 
> is called SutherlandiaOPC and their website is that name with a .com at 
> the end.  IP6 is made by Cell Forte and is available at health food stores 
> or from Utopia Silver.  It has shown good results with solid tumors. 
> Oleander has been made into an extract because of it's incredible 
> anti-cancer effects and immune stimulation.  Another extract is called 
> Anverzal...this is also oleander and is a patented drug made in the West 
> Indies I believe.  Some folks make their own extract at home from the raw 
> oleander plant and that is called oleander soup.  You have to be careful 
> making it though... raw oleander is extremely toxic.   The following 
> website has alot of info on oleander and IP6.
>
> http://www.rose-laurel.com/
>
> Good luck.
>
> Bob
> - Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dee" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 6:19 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>CS and Cancer
>
>
>>I know someone who has kept cancer in remission with CS but I think the 
>>best thing is something called MMS which has been involved in actually 
>>curing cancer.  Go to Jim Humbles site and he will advise if you get on to 
>>him personally.  dee
>>
>> djphe...@att.net wrote:
>>> Hi everyone.  I usually just lurk, so not many will recognize me.  I 
>>> have learned a lot from this group, and now I have a problem(s) that I 
>>> hope some of you can help with.
>>>
>>> My future daughter-in-law, Natalie, is a chiropractor and nutrition 
>>> specialist who just found out her mother has a cancerous growth about 
>>> the size of a grapefruit in her stomach.  It has metastasized, too.  The 
>>> Dr. told her she has 6-9 months to live.  We were stunned and shocked. I 
>>> have read that the CS can help with cancer, but has anyone had any 
>>> experience with this, or know of someone who has?
>>>
>>> Of course, Natalie will be looking at all natural cures that she can, 
>>> and they probably will not use chemo or radiation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: CS>CS and Cancer

[bbanever]

Forgot to add another link with even more info.

http://www.tbyil.com/

Bob
- Original Message - 
From: "bbanever" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 6:32 AM
Subject: Re: CS>CS and Cancer


If it were me, I'd certainly drink at least 8 oz of 10ppm CS daily, maybe 
more.  In addition I'd take oleander extract and IP6.   Oleander extract 
is called SutherlandiaOPC and their website is that name with a .com at 
the end.  IP6 is made by Cell Forte and is available at health food stores 
or from Utopia Silver.  It has shown good results with solid tumors. 
Oleander has been made into an extract because of it's incredible 
anti-cancer effects and immune stimulation.  Another extract is called 
Anverzal...this is also oleander and is a patented drug made in the West 
Indies I believe.  Some folks make their own extract at home from the raw 
oleander plant and that is called oleander soup.  You have to be careful 
making it though... raw oleander is extremely toxic.   The following 
website has alot of info on oleander and IP6.


http://www.rose-laurel.com/

Good luck.

Bob
- Original Message - 
From: "Dee" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 6:19 AM
Subject: Re: CS>CS and Cancer


I know someone who has kept cancer in remission with CS but I think the 
best thing is something called MMS which has been involved in actually 
curing cancer.  Go to Jim Humbles site and he will advise if you get on to 
him personally.  dee


djphe...@att.net wrote:
Hi everyone.  I usually just lurk, so not many will recognize me.  I 
have learned a lot from this group, and now I have a problem(s) that I 
hope some of you can help with.


My future daughter-in-law, Natalie, is a chiropractor and nutrition 
specialist who just found out her mother has a cancerous growth about 
the size of a grapefruit in her stomach.  It has metastasized, too.  The 
Dr. told her she has 6-9 months to live.  We were stunned and shocked. I 
have read that the CS can help with cancer, but has anyone had any 
experience with this, or know of someone who has?


Of course, Natalie will be looking at all natural cures that she can, 
and they probably will not use chemo or radiation.







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Re: CS>CS and Cancer

[bbanever]

If it were me, I'd certainly drink at least 8 oz of 10ppm CS daily, maybe 
more.  In addition I'd take oleander extract and IP6.   Oleander extract is 
called SutherlandiaOPC and their website is that name with a .com at the 
end.  IP6 is made by Cell Forte and is available at health food stores or 
from Utopia Silver.  It has shown good results with solid tumors.  Oleander 
has been made into an extract because of it's incredible anti-cancer effects 
and immune stimulation.  Another extract is called Anverzal...this is also 
oleander and is a patented drug made in the West Indies I believe.  Some 
folks make their own extract at home from the raw oleander plant and that is 
called oleander soup.  You have to be careful making it though... raw 
oleander is extremely toxic.   The following website has alot of info on 
oleander and IP6.


http://www.rose-laurel.com/

Good luck.

Bob
- Original Message - 
From: "Dee" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 6:19 AM
Subject: Re: CS>CS and Cancer


I know someone who has kept cancer in remission with CS but I think the 
best thing is something called MMS which has been involved in actually 
curing cancer.  Go to Jim Humbles site and he will advise if you get on to 
him personally.  dee


djphe...@att.net wrote:
Hi everyone.  I usually just lurk, so not many will recognize me.  I have 
learned a lot from this group, and now I have a problem(s) that I hope 
some of you can help with.


My future daughter-in-law, Natalie, is a chiropractor and nutrition 
specialist who just found out her mother has a cancerous growth about the 
size of a grapefruit in her stomach.  It has metastasized, too.  The Dr. 
told her she has 6-9 months to live.  We were stunned and shocked. I have 
read that the CS can help with cancer, but has anyone had any experience 
with this, or know of someone who has?


Of course, Natalie will be looking at all natural cures that she can, and 
they probably will not use chemo or radiation.







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Re: CS>CS and Cancer

[Dee]

I know someone who has kept cancer in remission with CS but I think the 
best thing is something called MMS which has been involved in actually 
curing cancer.  Go to Jim Humbles site and he will advise if you get on 
to him personally.  dee


djphe...@att.net wrote:

Hi everyone.  I usually just lurk, so not many will recognize me.  I have 
learned a lot from this group, and now I have a problem(s) that I hope some of 
you can help with.

My future daughter-in-law, Natalie, is a chiropractor and nutrition specialist 
who just found out her mother has a cancerous growth about the size of a 
grapefruit in her stomach.  It has metastasized, too.  The Dr. told her she has 
6-9 months to live.  We were stunned and shocked. I have read that the CS can 
help with cancer, but has anyone had any experience with this, or know of 
someone who has?

Of course, Natalie will be looking at all natural cures that she can, and they 
probably will not use chemo or radiation.


  



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CS>CS and Cancer

[djphelps]

Hi everyone.  I usually just lurk, so not many will recognize me.  I have 
learned a lot from this group, and now I have a problem(s) that I hope some of 
you can help with.

My future daughter-in-law, Natalie, is a chiropractor and nutrition specialist 
who just found out her mother has a cancerous growth about the size of a 
grapefruit in her stomach.  It has metastasized, too.  The Dr. told her she has 
6-9 months to live.  We were stunned and shocked. I have read that the CS can 
help with cancer, but has anyone had any experience with this, or know of 
someone who has?

Of course, Natalie will be looking at all natural cures that she can, and they 
probably will not use chemo or radiation.

On top of this, her father has prostrate cancer that they're treating with 
hormone therapy, her brother has Crohn's disease, and one sister has joint 
pains that the doctors don't know what it is.  So, Natalie has numerous things 
she will be working on --- on top of wedding plans.

If any of you have information on any of these things, I would greatly 
appreciate it, and I will pass it on to her.

Thanks in advance.

Debbie


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Re: CS>CS and cancer 20 Feb

[Sandee George]

Thanks Marshall you will be on from the end of today 
Bless you and all the wonderful work you continue to do - you are a font
of knowledge
which I personally appreciate
Regards
Sandee

Peace is easy ... it is a Mindset
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Re: CS>CS and cancer

[Marshall Dudley]

Sure, it is fine with me.

Marshall

Sandee George wrote:
Thanks Trem - I will do the same Marshall if that is Ok by you - 
Regards

Samdee

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RE: CS>CS and cancer

[bob Larson]

he's not a doctor, he's a "health consultant" as i recall it.

more like a BS artist it seemed to me.
  -Original Message-
  From: wsims21...@aol.com [mailto:wsims21...@aol.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 1:55 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CS>CS and cancer


  This is probable a doctor that is loosing a lot of money because of people
using Silver Water. I have been using it for as long as I can remember. My
water is made correctly though.






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RE: CS>CS and cancer

[bob Larson]

the guy's still an ass eh?

no idea where or why he came up with the crapola i read from him a couple
years ago.
  -Original Message-
  From: Trem [mailto:t...@silvergen.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 1:45 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CS>CS and cancer


  Does anyone know about this fellow Jonathan Campbell?

Re: CS>CS and cancer

[Sandee George]

Thanks Trem - I will do the same Marshall if that is Ok by you - 
Regards
Samdee

Peace is easy ... it is a Mindset
http://www.alive-again.net/


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Re: CS>CS and cancer

[Trem]

Marshall, you did a wonderful rebuttal to Campbell.  Apparently he's another 
of Stephen Barrett's quackwatch ilk.  Booga booga... silver's gonna getcha.


Thanks for your work.  I put a link to it on our site . 
http://www.silvergen.com/cancer_and_silver.htm  at the bottom of the page.


Best regards,

Trem
www.silvergen.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Marshall Dudley" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: CS>CS and cancer



Trem wrote:
Does anyone know about this fellow Jonathan Campbell?  This article says 
that silver causes cancer and is a heavy metal, which we know is not 
true.  "Silver in any form is a bio-accumulative toxic heavy metal, like 
mercury, lead, and arsenic"  Seems I heard some things about him some 
time ago about the same time Quackwatch was knocking silver too. 
http://www.cqs.com/silver.htm   He states this.  "Metallic silver is 
listed in the 1979 Registry of Toxic Effects as causing cancer in 
animals."   I cannot find a 1979 registry of toxic effects.  Can anyone 
point me to that?
There is nothing true about any of this.  See my article, it references 
tests run that show that silver is eliminated quite quickly from the body. 
Also silver is NOT a heavy metal, it is a transition metal, same as iron, 
which is essential to life.
 He also says silver causes immune system dysfunction and  *"hepatitis 
viral load and ALT and AST counts suddenly increased, indicating disease 
progression."*

**
Yes, that is the way it works. He is not much of a doctor if he does not 
know that.  When you kill live hepatitis virus, you get a herx reaction, 
they break into multiple pieces, and no longer are hiding. Thus the test 
will initially show in increase, since the test does not differentiate 
between live and dead viruses.  It is amazing that a doctor would not know 
this.  once these are flushed out of the system, then the count goes down, 
normally to 0 eventually.
*Our experience is that viral count goes down with CS use as reported by 
some of our customers making and using EIS*
 Jason's site has a lot of info about silver being transitional or a 
heavy metal  http://www.silvermedicine.org/silver-heavy-metal.html
 One of my customers asked me about the link to acquiring cancer from 
silver and I cannot determine the best way to answer.  Can anyone shed 
more light on silver causing cancer.   Dr. Robert Becker showed silver 
ions caused dedifferentiation of cancer cells in vitro.  We have had many 
reports of tumors regressing and disappearing from drinking quantity of 
EIS.  I'm pretty well convinced from anecdotal reports that it does work 
for that purpose.  I have this link on our site. 
http://www.silvergen.com/cancer_and_silver.htm


The test that was done showed that putting small capsules of foreign 
material into the body under the skin can cause cancer. It happened with 
almost everything tested, even iron. Silver was simply one of the 
materials tested. It had to do with a foreign body being put under the 
skin, nothing to do with what the material was, in fact the paper says: 
"/Cancer. No studies were located regarding cancer in humans following 
inhalation, oral, or dermal exposure to silver or silver compounds. "./. 
If you want to read a rebuttal of all the nonsense this guy is spouting, I 
have written an article which you can read at: 
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/dark-side-rebutal.htm


Marshall

Any feedback will be appreciated.
 Trem




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Re: CS>CS and cancer

[Marshall Dudley]

Trem wrote:
Does anyone know about this fellow Jonathan Campbell?  This article 
says that silver causes cancer and is a heavy metal, which we know is 
not true.  "Silver in any form is a bio-accumulative toxic heavy 
metal, like mercury, lead, and arsenic"  Seems I heard some things 
about him some time ago about the same time Quackwatch was knocking 
silver too.  http://www.cqs.com/silver.htm   He states this.  
"Metallic silver is listed in the 1979 Registry of Toxic Effects as 
causing cancer in animals."   I cannot find a 1979 registry of toxic 
effects.  Can anyone point me to that?
There is nothing true about any of this.  See my article, it references 
tests run that show that silver is eliminated quite quickly from the 
body. Also silver is NOT a heavy metal, it is a transition metal, same 
as iron, which is essential to life.
 
He also says silver causes immune system dysfunction and  *"hepatitis 
viral load and ALT and AST counts suddenly increased, indicating 
disease progression."*

**
Yes, that is the way it works. He is not much of a doctor if he does not 
know that.  When you kill live hepatitis virus, you get a herx reaction, 
they break into multiple pieces, and no longer are hiding. Thus the test 
will initially show in increase, since the test does not differentiate 
between live and dead viruses.  It is amazing that a doctor would not 
know this.  once these are flushed out of the system, then the count 
goes down, normally to 0 eventually.
*Our experience is that viral count goes down with CS use as reported 
by some of our customers making and using EIS*
 
Jason's site has a lot of info about silver being transitional or a 
heavy metal  http://www.silvermedicine.org/silver-heavy-metal.html
 
One of my customers asked me about the link to acquiring cancer from 
silver and I cannot determine the best way to answer.  Can anyone shed 
more light on silver causing cancer.   Dr. Robert Becker showed silver 
ions caused dedifferentiation of cancer cells in vitro.  We have had 
many reports of tumors regressing and disappearing from drinking 
quantity of EIS.  I'm pretty well convinced from anecdotal reports 
that it does work for that purpose.  I have this link on our site.  
http://www.silvergen.com/cancer_and_silver.htm
 
The test that was done showed that putting small capsules of foreign 
material into the body under the skin can cause cancer. It happened with 
almost everything tested, even iron. Silver was simply one of the 
materials tested. It had to do with a foreign body being put under the 
skin, nothing to do with what the material was, in fact the paper says: 
"/Cancer. No studies were located regarding cancer in humans following 
inhalation, oral, or dermal exposure to silver or silver compounds. "./. 
If you want to read a rebuttal of all the nonsense this guy is spouting, 
I have written an article which you can read at: 
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/dark-side-rebutal.htm


Marshall

Any feedback will be appreciated.
 
Trem




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Re: CS>CS and cancer

[WSims21675]

This is probable a doctor that is loosing a lot of money because of people  
using Silver Water. I have been using it for as long as I can remember. My 
water  is made correctly though. 



**Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living.  
(http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/
2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598)

CS>CS and cancer

[Trem]

Does anyone know about this fellow Jonathan Campbell?  This article says that 
silver causes cancer and is a heavy metal, which we know is not true.  "Silver 
in any form is a bio-accumulative toxic heavy metal, like mercury, lead, and 
arsenic"  Seems I heard some things about him some time ago about the same time 
Quackwatch was knocking silver too.  http://www.cqs.com/silver.htm   He states 
this.  "Metallic silver is listed in the 1979 Registry of Toxic Effects as 
causing cancer in animals."   I cannot find a 1979 registry of toxic effects.  
Can anyone point me to that?

He also says silver causes immune system dysfunction and  "hepatitis viral load 
and ALT and AST counts suddenly increased, indicating disease progression."

Our experience is that viral count goes down with CS use as reported by some of 
our customers making and using EIS

Jason's site has a lot of info about silver being transitional or a heavy metal 
 http://www.silvermedicine.org/silver-heavy-metal.html

One of my customers asked me about the link to acquiring cancer from silver and 
I cannot determine the best way to answer.  Can anyone shed more light on 
silver causing cancer.   Dr. Robert Becker showed silver ions caused 
dedifferentiation of cancer cells in vitro.  We have had many reports of tumors 
regressing and disappearing from drinking quantity of EIS.  I'm pretty well 
convinced from anecdotal reports that it does work for that purpose.  I have 
this link on our site.  http://www.silvergen.com/cancer_and_silver.htm

Any feedback will be appreciated.

Trem

CS>CS and Cancer

[carrie]

Hi everyone  I went to find any past files on this topic however there are no past files. I have recently been diagnosed with lung cancer - has anyone any experience with using CS during chemo? 
Many thanks
Carrie



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Re: CS>CS and cancer.

[Marshall Dudley]

Carl Deb Charter wrote:

Hi Dave:

Could you please explain how drinking the juice of a lemon causes an 
alkaline reaction?  I have heard this before, but it seems counter 
intuitive, seeing how lemons would most likely be acidic.  Thanks!!! Deb



For the body there are two types of acids, organic and inorganic.  All 
organic acids are quickly neutralized by the body when oxidized, and 
become carbon dioxide and water.


Citric acid = C_6 H_8 O_7 + 9O = 6CO2 + 4H2O

Inorganic acids such as hydrochloric phosphoric and sulfuric are not 
neutralized by the body.  They end up making the body more acid.  Foods 
such as lemon juice have citric acid (an organic acid), which when it 
breaks down into carbon dioxide and water leaves the calcium, potassium 
and magnesium that is in the juice, which are alkaline.  Thus once 
digested, they make the body more alkaline.


Marshall

- Original Message - From: "Dave" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: CS>CS and cancer.




 Take a look at this, Its been my experience that EIS is slightly 
acidic and might contribute to the problem.
 I've been at it about as long as you and killed 42 years of lyme 
disease but I kept on taking it  as a preventative.
I've had three different growths and killed them one at a time by 
causing my pancreas to alkalize my system.
The method is to drink the juice of one half a lemon three times a 
day (gulp it down so it causes the alkaline reaction). No additives 
such as sugar, maybe a little water to get the taste out of your mouth.


http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/cancerselftreatment.htm#alkalinity

I've tried to post this link four times now, maybe this time it will 
appear.

Dave




David W Kenney wrote:


I'VE BEEN TAKING CS FOR OVER 10 YEARS..
I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER LAST WEEK..
I'LL HAVE AN EXACT DIAGNOSIS NEXT WEEK AND WILL POST IT FOR 
CONFIRMATION.

RIGHT NOW IT IS SIMPLY A SOLITARY MASS IN THE CHEST.

-Original Message-
From: alchemysa [mailto:da...@alchemysa.com.au] Sent: Saturday, May 
26, 2007 6:14 PM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>CS and cancer.

I've been receiving and ocassionally contributing to this list for 
about 3 years. I don't read every word but I do a regularly 'scan' 
it. It strikes me that I cannot remember reading of a regular member 
of this list developing cancer, other than perhaps skin cancer. I'm 
sure its happened, or maybe I've just missed such posts.  But I 
wonder if  JUST POSSIBLY this goups provides a faint hint of 
evidence that CS provides some resistance to cancer.


David


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Re: CS>CS and cancer.

[Norine Twaddell]

You would use grade B maple syrup.  I guess it is less processed and is not as 
simple a carbohydrate as table sugar or grade A maple syrup.  I believe you 
could also use Blue Agave which is also low on the glyemic index rating.

Also I started eating 1/4 -1/2 of a ripe organic labeled lemon after it was 
just suggested on this list.  It is delicious but I am concerned that it is too 
acidic for my tooth enamel.  Anybody?

Also I am not positive that is why but it seems to have supressed both my 
appetite and cravings.

Norine Twaddell CDBC, CPDT
www.dogventures.com

- Original Message - 
From: "G Murray" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: CS>CS and cancer.


>I have used the master cleanse to alkalize the body and it does a 
> wonderful job.  It is where you take the juice of half a lemon (2tbls) 
> and 2 tbls of real pure maple syrup with 10 oz of water and a teeny 
> pinch of cayenne pepper. 6-8 glasses of this per day.   This fast is 
> usually 10 days but you can go for as long as you want, but not too much 
> more than 40 days.   I felt the best I have ever felt while on the 
> cleanse and following the cleanse.  I mixed these cleanses up with a 
> series of liver cleanses as well and think this is a very good way to 
> gain alkalinity.   The lemon is very powerful in this respect.  Dave's 
> response to how the lemon works is likely right on. 
> 
> As for the no sugar comment a little farther down. The maple syrup is 
> used for it's high amount of nutrients for the fast setting.  If you are 
> not fasting then it is not necessary.
> 
> G Murray
> 
> Dave wrote:
> 
>>  Your pancreas controls your PH level, when you bombard it with the 
>> strong acid of the lemon it dumps alkaline
>> into your gut thus alkalizing your body. The half lemon is just enough 
>> to trigger the response and not enough to cause an acid condition thus 
>> you have just fooled your pancreas into doing what you want.
>> Dave
>>
>> Carl Deb Charter wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Dave:
>>>
>>> Could you please explain how drinking the juice of a lemon causes an 
>>> alkaline reaction?  I have heard this before, but it seems counter 
>>> intuitive, seeing how lemons would most likely be acidic.  Thanks!!! Deb

Re: CS>CS and cancer.

[Charles Marcus]

Could you please explain how drinking the juice of a lemon causes an 
alkaline reaction?  I have heard this before, but it seems counter 
intuitive, seeing how lemons would most likely be acidic.


Correction...

Juice from RIPE lemons (and limes and grapefruit) will cause an alkaline 
reaction in the body.


If the fruit is not ripe enough, its juice will most definitely cause an 
acidic reaction in the body.


This is, in fact, why many people have problems with lemons and limes 
and other citrus fruits - becasue most are picked unripe. they do tend 
to ripen after picked, but this is not nearly idea as tree ripened.


I do not know the nature of *why* ingesting an acidic juice (as tested 
with a ph tester) has an alkaline reaction in the body...



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CS>CS and cancer. / Vegetarianism

[david]

Isn't that weird. I pose a question, 'David' shoots me down, and yet  
another 'Dave' provides an answer. It'd be funny on any other occasion.


Anyway, I find it a hard to believe that the slight acidity of a  
mouthful or two of CS can increase acidity in an adult body,  but the  
general questiont of acidity/alkalinity is well worth considering.   
Good luck with your diagnosis David.


Heres another co-incidence I noticed recently. 2 people I'm quite  
close to who have been keen vegetarians for many years have been  
diagnosed with quite serious problems caused by (the doctors say) not  
having meat in their diet. In one case the problem is some kind of  
diabetes.


I wonder if the consequences of Vegetarianism (a 'relatively new'  
practice) are finally emerging.  The chickens are coming home to  
roost so to speak.


David






From: Dave 
Date: 28 May 2007 12:43:44 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>CS and cancer.


 Take a look at this, Its been my experience that EIS is slightly  
acidic and might contribute to the problem.
 I've been at it about as long as you and killed 42 years of lyme  
disease but I kept on taking it  as a preventative.
I've had three different growths and killed them one at a time by  
causing my pancreas to alkalize my system.
The method is to drink the juice of one half a lemon three times a  
day (gulp it down so it causes the alkaline reaction). No additives  
such as sugar, maybe a little water to get the taste out of your  
mouth.


http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/cancerselftreatment.htm#alkalinity

I've tried to post this link four times now, maybe this time it  
will appear.

Dave




David W Kenney wrote:


I'VE BEEN TAKING CS FOR OVER 10 YEARS..
I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER LAST WEEK..
I'LL HAVE AN EXACT DIAGNOSIS NEXT WEEK AND WILL POST IT FOR  
CONFIRMATION.

RIGHT NOW IT IS SIMPLY A SOLITARY MASS IN THE CHEST.

-Original Message-
From: alchemysa [mailto:da...@alchemysa.com.au] Sent: Saturday,  
May 26, 2007 6:14 PM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>CS and cancer.

I've been receiving and ocassionally contributing to this list for  
about 3 years. I don't read every word but I do a regularly 'scan'  
it. It strikes me that I cannot remember reading of a regular  
member of this list developing cancer, other than perhaps skin  
cancer. I'm sure its happened, or maybe I've just missed such  
posts.  But I wonder if  JUST POSSIBLY this goups provides a faint  
hint of evidence that CS provides some resistance to cancer.


David


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Re: CS>CS and cancer.

[G Murray]

I have used the master cleanse to alkalize the body and it does a 
wonderful job.  It is where you take the juice of half a lemon (2tbls) 
and 2 tbls of real pure maple syrup with 10 oz of water and a teeny 
pinch of cayenne pepper. 6-8 glasses of this per day.   This fast is 
usually 10 days but you can go for as long as you want, but not too much 
more than 40 days.   I felt the best I have ever felt while on the 
cleanse and following the cleanse.  I mixed these cleanses up with a 
series of liver cleanses as well and think this is a very good way to 
gain alkalinity.   The lemon is very powerful in this respect.  Dave's 
response to how the lemon works is likely right on. 

As for the no sugar comment a little farther down. The maple syrup is 
used for it's high amount of nutrients for the fast setting.  If you are 
not fasting then it is not necessary.


G Murray

Dave wrote:

 Your pancreas controls your PH level, when you bombard it with the 
strong acid of the lemon it dumps alkaline
into your gut thus alkalizing your body. The half lemon is just enough 
to trigger the response and not enough to cause an acid condition thus 
you have just fooled your pancreas into doing what you want.

Dave

Carl Deb Charter wrote:


Hi Dave:

Could you please explain how drinking the juice of a lemon causes an 
alkaline reaction?  I have heard this before, but it seems counter 
intuitive, seeing how lemons would most likely be acidic.  Thanks!!! Deb



- Original Message - From: "Dave" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: CS>CS and cancer.

. No additives such as sugar, maybe a little water to get the taste 
out of your mouth.




Dave








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Re: CS>CS and cancer.

[Dave]

 Your pancreas controls your PH level, when you bombard it with the 
strong acid of the lemon it dumps alkaline
into your gut thus alkalizing your body. The half lemon is just enough 
to trigger the response and not enough to cause an acid condition thus 
you have just fooled your pancreas into doing what you want.

Dave

Carl Deb Charter wrote:


Hi Dave:

Could you please explain how drinking the juice of a lemon causes an 
alkaline reaction?  I have heard this before, but it seems counter 
intuitive, seeing how lemons would most likely be acidic.  Thanks!!! Deb



- Original Message - From: "Dave" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: CS>CS and cancer.




 Take a look at this, Its been my experience that EIS is slightly 
acidic and might contribute to the problem.
 I've been at it about as long as you and killed 42 years of lyme 
disease but I kept on taking it  as a preventative.
I've had three different growths and killed them one at a time by 
causing my pancreas to alkalize my system.
The method is to drink the juice of one half a lemon three times a 
day (gulp it down so it causes the alkaline reaction). No additives 
such as sugar, maybe a little water to get the taste out of your mouth.


http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/cancerselftreatment.htm#alkalinity

I've tried to post this link four times now, maybe this time it will 
appear.

Dave




David W Kenney wrote:


I'VE BEEN TAKING CS FOR OVER 10 YEARS..
I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER LAST WEEK..
I'LL HAVE AN EXACT DIAGNOSIS NEXT WEEK AND WILL POST IT FOR 
CONFIRMATION.

RIGHT NOW IT IS SIMPLY A SOLITARY MASS IN THE CHEST.

-Original Message-
From: alchemysa [mailto:da...@alchemysa.com.au] Sent: Saturday, May 
26, 2007 6:14 PM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>CS and cancer.

I've been receiving and ocassionally contributing to this list for 
about 3 years. I don't read every word but I do a regularly 'scan' 
it. It strikes me that I cannot remember reading of a regular member 
of this list developing cancer, other than perhaps skin cancer. I'm 
sure its happened, or maybe I've just missed such posts.  But I 
wonder if  JUST POSSIBLY this goups provides a faint hint of 
evidence that CS provides some resistance to cancer.


David


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Re: CS>CS and cancer.

[Carl Deb Charter]

Hi Dave:

Could you please explain how drinking the juice of a lemon causes an 
alkaline reaction?  I have heard this before, but it seems counter 
intuitive, seeing how lemons would most likely be acidic.  Thanks!!! Deb



- Original Message - 
From: "Dave" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: CS>CS and cancer.




 Take a look at this, Its been my experience that EIS is slightly acidic 
and might contribute to the problem.
 I've been at it about as long as you and killed 42 years of lyme disease 
but I kept on taking it  as a preventative.
I've had three different growths and killed them one at a time by causing 
my pancreas to alkalize my system.
The method is to drink the juice of one half a lemon three times a day 
(gulp it down so it causes the alkaline reaction). No additives such as 
sugar, maybe a little water to get the taste out of your mouth.


http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/cancerselftreatment.htm#alkalinity

I've tried to post this link four times now, maybe this time it will 
appear.

Dave




David W Kenney wrote:


I'VE BEEN TAKING CS FOR OVER 10 YEARS..
I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER LAST WEEK..
I'LL HAVE AN EXACT DIAGNOSIS NEXT WEEK AND WILL POST IT FOR CONFIRMATION.
RIGHT NOW IT IS SIMPLY A SOLITARY MASS IN THE CHEST.

-Original Message-
From: alchemysa [mailto:da...@alchemysa.com.au] Sent: Saturday, May 26, 
2007 6:14 PM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>CS and cancer.

I've been receiving and ocassionally contributing to this list for about 3 
years. I don't read every word but I do a regularly 'scan' it. It strikes 
me that I cannot remember reading of a regular member of this list 
developing cancer, other than perhaps skin cancer. I'm sure its happened, 
or maybe I've just missed such posts.  But I wonder if  JUST POSSIBLY this 
goups provides a faint hint of evidence that CS provides some resistance 
to cancer.


David


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Re: CS>CS and cancer.

[Dee]

Brilliant article Dave, I have read it before but don't know if it was your
posting or someone elses.  Dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Dave
Date: 05/27/07 16:14:23
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>CS and cancer.
 
  Take a look at this, Its been my experience that EIS is slightly
acidic and might contribute to the problem.
  I've been at it about as long as you and killed 42 years of lyme
disease but I kept on taking it  as a preventative.
I've had three different growths and killed them one at a time by
causing my pancreas to alkalize my system.
  The method is to drink the juice of one half a lemon three times a day
(gulp it down so it causes the alkaline reaction). No additives such as
sugar, maybe a little water to get the taste out of your mouth.
 
http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/cancerselftreatment.htm#alkalinity
 
I've tried to post this link four times now, maybe this time it will appear.
Dave
 
 
 
 

Re: CS>CS and cancer.

[Dave]

 Take a look at this, Its been my experience that EIS is slightly 
acidic and might contribute to the problem.
 I've been at it about as long as you and killed 42 years of lyme 
disease but I kept on taking it  as a preventative.
I've had three different growths and killed them one at a time by 
causing my pancreas to alkalize my system.
The method is to drink the juice of one half a lemon three times a day 
(gulp it down so it causes the alkaline reaction). No additives such as 
sugar, maybe a little water to get the taste out of your mouth.


http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/cancerselftreatment.htm#alkalinity

I've tried to post this link four times now, maybe this time it will appear.
Dave




David W Kenney wrote:


I'VE BEEN TAKING CS FOR OVER 10 YEARS..
I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER LAST WEEK..
I'LL HAVE AN EXACT DIAGNOSIS NEXT WEEK AND WILL POST IT FOR CONFIRMATION.
RIGHT NOW IT IS SIMPLY A SOLITARY MASS IN THE CHEST.

-Original Message-
From: alchemysa [mailto:da...@alchemysa.com.au] 
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 6:14 PM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>CS and cancer.

I've been receiving and ocassionally contributing to this list for about 
3 years. I don't read every word but I do a regularly 'scan' it. It 
strikes me that I cannot remember reading of a regular member of this 
list developing cancer, other than perhaps skin cancer. I'm sure its 
happened, or maybe I've just missed such posts.  But I wonder if  JUST 
POSSIBLY this goups provides a faint hint of evidence that CS provides 
some resistance to cancer.


David


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Re: CS>CS and cancer.

[Smitty]

David:

I just ran across some info on cancer. You might  give a look =

http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer/The714x.html

good luck,
Smitty

On 5/26/07, David W Kenney  wrote:

I'VE BEEN TAKING CS FOR OVER 10 YEARS..
I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER LAST WEEK..
I'LL HAVE AN EXACT DIAGNOSIS NEXT WEEK AND WILL POST IT FOR CONFIRMATION.
RIGHT NOW IT IS SIMPLY A SOLITARY MASS IN THE CHEST.

-Original Message-
From: alchemysa [mailto:da...@alchemysa.com.au]
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 6:14 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>CS and cancer.

I've been receiving and ocassionally contributing to this list for about
3 years. I don't read every word but I do a regularly 'scan' it. It
strikes me that I cannot remember reading of a regular member of this
list developing cancer, other than perhaps skin cancer. I'm sure its
happened, or maybe I've just missed such posts.  But I wonder if  JUST
POSSIBLY this goups provides a faint hint of evidence that CS provides
some resistance to cancer.

David


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RE: CS>CS and cancer.

[David W Kenney]

I'VE BEEN TAKING CS FOR OVER 10 YEARS..
I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER LAST WEEK..
I'LL HAVE AN EXACT DIAGNOSIS NEXT WEEK AND WILL POST IT FOR CONFIRMATION.
RIGHT NOW IT IS SIMPLY A SOLITARY MASS IN THE CHEST.

-Original Message-
From: alchemysa [mailto:da...@alchemysa.com.au] 
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 6:14 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>CS and cancer.

I've been receiving and ocassionally contributing to this list for about 
3 years. I don't read every word but I do a regularly 'scan' it. It 
strikes me that I cannot remember reading of a regular member of this 
list developing cancer, other than perhaps skin cancer. I'm sure its 
happened, or maybe I've just missed such posts.  But I wonder if  JUST 
POSSIBLY this goups provides a faint hint of evidence that CS provides 
some resistance to cancer.

David


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CS>CS and cancer.

[alchemysa]

I've been receiving and ocassionally contributing to this list for about 
3 years. I don't read every word but I do a regularly 'scan' it. It 
strikes me that I cannot remember reading of a regular member of this 
list developing cancer, other than perhaps skin cancer. I'm sure its 
happened, or maybe I've just missed such posts.  But I wonder if  JUST 
POSSIBLY this goups provides a faint hint of evidence that CS provides 
some resistance to cancer.


David


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Re: CS>cs and cancer Trem

[d.linen]

How must cs did you give her? 

DL


BioSil wrote:
> 
> My Tonkinese cat had an enormous tumour (about eight years ago) - I put her
> on colloidal silver and it disappeared within six weeks and never returned.
> 
> Such a pity I never documented it with the vet who originally x-rayed her.
> 
> Yvonne :o)
> - Original Message -
> From: "Stuff" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:19 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>cs and cancer Trem
> 
> >
> > Have u tried a nebulizer with CS for ur mold problem?
> >
> > At 11:55 PM 9/21/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> > >url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m62645.html
> > >CS>cs and cancer Trem
> > >From: Trem
> > >Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 12:50:29
> > >
> > >   Hi Trem,
> > >
> > >   > Hi Mike,
> > >
> > >   > Thanks for  your  comments  and   the   link.  I  hadn't  seen any
> > >   > references to  viruses and cancer but it was a no  brainer  for me
> > >   > after seeing these cancers disappear. I just couldn't deny  what I
> > >   > was seeing. I knew that they couldn't all be spontaneous remission
> > >   > and CS was the only thing they were taking.
> > >
> > >   The information  I collected describes more varieties of  cancer and
> > >   the different  types of viruses that cause them. Also,  most  of the
> > >   population carries  some  of these viruses around,  ready  to strike
> > >   whenever the immune system degrades.
> > >
> > >   Your news  is exceptional. It is the first time I have  heard  of cs
> > >   killing cancer. But it makes sense.
> > >
> > >   > One of my favorite sayings is "I want to save the world...10 to 20
> > >   > PPM at a time." I think it's working.
> > >
> > >   I think so too. After seeing the effect that high ionic cs had on my
> > >   Shingles virus,  there is no doubt in my mind that  you  are killing
> > >   the cancer.  This  is amazing news, Trem. Thank  you  very  much for
> > >   posting the information.
> > >
> > >   But the cs has to be strong - 20 ppm or more. The 10 ppm or  so from
> > >   the 3  nines won't do the job. At least, it didn't help  my Shingles
> > >   problem one bit.
> > >
> > >   > The PWT meters usually read 20+ - 25 uS at completion of  the test
> > >   > run but  that  figure  drops down overnight as  some  of  the ions
> > >   > change to colloids.
> > >
> > >   I wasn't  sure how you converted from uS to ppm - it looks  like you
> > >   use a  unity  conversion factor. I found  some  interesting  data on
> > >   Frank Key's site that may help validate this. He measured the uS and
> > >   ppm for a number of products and lists the results at:
> > >
> > > http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html
> > >
> > >   I selected five that seem to correlate well. Here is the list:
> > >
> > >   Product Name  Conductivity  Ionic PPM  Ratio
> > >       ~  ~
> > >   Silver Lightning3.3 uS/cm3.71 ppm  0.889
> > >   Mesosilver  3.9 uS/cm3.9  ppm  1.0
> > >   Sovereign Silver9.7 uS/cm9.22 ppm  1.052
> > >   ASAP Solution  11.4 uS/cm   10.65 ppm  1.070
> > >   ASAP Solution  20.1 uS/cm   19.59 ppm  1.026
> > >
> > >   The average is
> > >
> > > 0.889 + 1.0 + 1.052 + 1.070 + 1.026 = 5.037 / 5 = 1.0074
> > >
> > >   So it looks like the unity conversion factor is valid.
> > >
> > >   I'm sure  you  know  about adding a bit  of  H2O2  to  convert those
> > >   useless oxide particles back to good ions. Please forgive me,  but I
> > >   just gotta insert one equation here:)
> > >
> > >   I think the H2O2 acts as a catalyst to convert silver oxide to ions:
> > >
> > > 2Ag2O + H2O2 --> 4Ag(+) + O2(g) + H2O2
> > >
> > >   So the  H2O2 is not consumed and will continue converting  the oxide
> > >   as soon  as it forms. Probably the H2O2 will degrade with  time, but
> > >   the cs  should have been ingested long before that happens.  I don't
> > >   think the  stabilizers  they  add   are   any  problem  at  such low
> > >   concentration.
> > >
> > >   When I push Godzilla to over 30 ppm (calculated), it  starts showing
> > >   a slight  tint. When I add

Re: CS>cs and cancer Trem

[BioSil]

My Tonkinese cat had an enormous tumour (about eight years ago) - I put her
on colloidal silver and it disappeared within six weeks and never returned.

Such a pity I never documented it with the vet who originally x-rayed her.

Yvonne :o)
- Original Message - 
From: "Stuff" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: CS>cs and cancer Trem


>
> Have u tried a nebulizer with CS for ur mold problem?
>
> At 11:55 PM 9/21/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> >url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m62645.html
> >CS>cs and cancer Trem
> >From: Trem
> >Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 12:50:29
> >
> >   Hi Trem,
> >
> >   > Hi Mike,
> >
> >   > Thanks for  your  comments  and   the   link.  I  hadn't  seen any
> >   > references to  viruses and cancer but it was a no  brainer  for me
> >   > after seeing these cancers disappear. I just couldn't deny  what I
> >   > was seeing. I knew that they couldn't all be spontaneous remission
> >   > and CS was the only thing they were taking.
> >
> >   The information  I collected describes more varieties of  cancer and
> >   the different  types of viruses that cause them. Also,  most  of the
> >   population carries  some  of these viruses around,  ready  to strike
> >   whenever the immune system degrades.
> >
> >   Your news  is exceptional. It is the first time I have  heard  of cs
> >   killing cancer. But it makes sense.
> >
> >   > One of my favorite sayings is "I want to save the world...10 to 20
> >   > PPM at a time." I think it's working.
> >
> >   I think so too. After seeing the effect that high ionic cs had on my
> >   Shingles virus,  there is no doubt in my mind that  you  are killing
> >   the cancer.  This  is amazing news, Trem. Thank  you  very  much for
> >   posting the information.
> >
> >   But the cs has to be strong - 20 ppm or more. The 10 ppm or  so from
> >   the 3  nines won't do the job. At least, it didn't help  my Shingles
> >   problem one bit.
> >
> >   > The PWT meters usually read 20+ - 25 uS at completion of  the test
> >   > run but  that  figure  drops down overnight as  some  of  the ions
> >   > change to colloids.
> >
> >   I wasn't  sure how you converted from uS to ppm - it looks  like you
> >   use a  unity  conversion factor. I found  some  interesting  data on
> >   Frank Key's site that may help validate this. He measured the uS and
> >   ppm for a number of products and lists the results at:
> >
> > http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html
> >
> >   I selected five that seem to correlate well. Here is the list:
> >
> >   Product Name  Conductivity  Ionic PPM  Ratio
> >       ~  ~
> >   Silver Lightning3.3 uS/cm3.71 ppm  0.889
> >   Mesosilver  3.9 uS/cm3.9  ppm  1.0
> >   Sovereign Silver9.7 uS/cm9.22 ppm  1.052
> >   ASAP Solution  11.4 uS/cm   10.65 ppm  1.070
> >   ASAP Solution  20.1 uS/cm   19.59 ppm  1.026
> >
> >   The average is
> >
> > 0.889 + 1.0 + 1.052 + 1.070 + 1.026 = 5.037 / 5 = 1.0074
> >
> >   So it looks like the unity conversion factor is valid.
> >
> >   I'm sure  you  know  about adding a bit  of  H2O2  to  convert those
> >   useless oxide particles back to good ions. Please forgive me,  but I
> >   just gotta insert one equation here:)
> >
> >   I think the H2O2 acts as a catalyst to convert silver oxide to ions:
> >
> > 2Ag2O + H2O2 --> 4Ag(+) + O2(g) + H2O2
> >
> >   So the  H2O2 is not consumed and will continue converting  the oxide
> >   as soon  as it forms. Probably the H2O2 will degrade with  time, but
> >   the cs  should have been ingested long before that happens.  I don't
> >   think the  stabilizers  they  add   are   any  problem  at  such low
> >   concentration.
> >
> >   When I push Godzilla to over 30 ppm (calculated), it  starts showing
> >   a slight  tint. When I add about 0.2 ppm of H2O2  (1/2  teaspoon per
> >   litre) and let it sit overnight, the tint disappears. The  amount of
> >   H2O2 is so small it is barely noticeable.
> >
> >   > Regards,
> >
> >   > Trem
> >
> >   > P.S. Have  you found a new apartment or are  you  still struggling
> >   > with mold spores. I hope you're feeling better and get well soon.
> >
> >   Thanks for  mentioning it, Trem. It looks like the  battle  is over.
> >   The mold has won, and I'm out of resources to continue the fight.
> >
> >Best Regards,
> >
> >Mike Monett
> >
> >
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Re: CS>cs and cancer Trem

[Ode Coyote]

  Being an example is a big help to others.
There's no force involved..so..no resistance.
and even a bad example is helpful.

You cannot not help but help.
Your very existance serves everyone.
But, as always, it's them that chooses how. 

In way, Hitler was  a hero.
He showed us how not to organize a planet..and hopefully...made the lesson stick because he did it so badly, so well, with so much enthusiasm.
Most of all, Hitler made it very clear that leaders must be chosen carefully and/or ignored early on.
His successes made it clear that listeners have the responsibility for their own ears.

Never follow anyone who's not in front of you?

I learned that the harder a finger is pointed, the closer the one doing the pointing should be scrutinized.
ode


At 12:54 PM 9/22/2003 EDT, you wrote: 

Ken wrote:


<<
might supply an easy 'means' of doing it 'if' they want to.

1st rule of help:
  You can only help someone down their chosen path. Regardless of the
energies you apply, it is always them that chooses where they go.
2nd rule of help:
  The harder you push help down a different path, the more resistance  it
creates.

A leader is the first one to walk the path.
If he's worried about who's following...he can't see where he's going and
will probably get lost.

Ode [Ken]>>>

Thanks, Ken for writing this! Sums it up for me, I just wish it hadn't taken me 48 years to figure it out...  (It's a big job just trying to save myself)

Laura H.
TX

 

 







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CS>cs and cancer Trem

[Trem]

Hi Mike,

We use +20% correction factor applied 24 hours after the process is
complete.  If I read the CS right after shutdown then I don't add a
correction factor because those ions that are going to agglomerate overnight
haven't done so yet and the reading is pretty close to actual.

I never use H2O2 because there are so many ions in a given measure of CS
that it doesn't make any difference to me if there are colloids in it too.
In fact they may have some benefit.  Adding peroxide is too much effort for
the return.

Sorry you're still stuck in the apartment.  Hope life gets better for you
soon.

Regards,

Trem


- Original Message -
From: "Mike Monett" <31dtzj...@sneakemail.com>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 8:55 PM
Subject: CS>cs and cancer Trem


> url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m62645.html
> CS>cs and cancer Trem
> From: Trem
> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 12:50:29
>
>   Hi Trem,
>
>   > Hi Mike,
>
>   > Thanks for  your  comments  and   the   link.  I  hadn't  seen any
>   > references to  viruses and cancer but it was a no  brainer  for me
>   > after seeing these cancers disappear. I just couldn't deny  what I
>   > was seeing. I knew that they couldn't all be spontaneous remission
>   > and CS was the only thing they were taking.
>
>   The information  I collected describes more varieties of  cancer and
>   the different  types of viruses that cause them. Also,  most  of the
>   population carries  some  of these viruses around,  ready  to strike
>   whenever the immune system degrades.
>
>   Your news  is exceptional. It is the first time I have  heard  of cs
>   killing cancer. But it makes sense.
>
>   > One of my favorite sayings is "I want to save the world...10 to 20
>   > PPM at a time." I think it's working.
>
>   I think so too. After seeing the effect that high ionic cs had on my
>   Shingles virus,  there is no doubt in my mind that  you  are killing
>   the cancer.  This  is amazing news, Trem. Thank  you  very  much for
>   posting the information.
>
>   But the cs has to be strong - 20 ppm or more. The 10 ppm or  so from
>   the 3  nines won't do the job. At least, it didn't help  my Shingles
>   problem one bit.
>
>   > The PWT meters usually read 20+ - 25 uS at completion of  the test
>   > run but  that  figure  drops down overnight as  some  of  the ions
>   > change to colloids.
>
>   I wasn't  sure how you converted from uS to ppm - it looks  like you
>   use a  unity  conversion factor. I found  some  interesting  data on
>   Frank Key's site that may help validate this. He measured the uS and
>   ppm for a number of products and lists the results at:
>
> http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html
>
>   I selected five that seem to correlate well. Here is the list:
>
>   Product Name  Conductivity  Ionic PPM  Ratio
>       ~  ~
>   Silver Lightning3.3 uS/cm3.71 ppm  0.889
>   Mesosilver  3.9 uS/cm3.9  ppm  1.0
>   Sovereign Silver9.7 uS/cm9.22 ppm  1.052
>   ASAP Solution  11.4 uS/cm   10.65 ppm  1.070
>   ASAP Solution  20.1 uS/cm   19.59 ppm  1.026
>
>   The average is
>
> 0.889 + 1.0 + 1.052 + 1.070 + 1.026 = 5.037 / 5 = 1.0074
>
>   So it looks like the unity conversion factor is valid.
>
>   I'm sure  you  know  about adding a bit  of  H2O2  to  convert those
>   useless oxide particles back to good ions. Please forgive me,  but I
>   just gotta insert one equation here:)
>
>   I think the H2O2 acts as a catalyst to convert silver oxide to ions:
>
> 2Ag2O + H2O2 --> 4Ag(+) + O2(g) + H2O2
>
>   So the  H2O2 is not consumed and will continue converting  the oxide
>   as soon  as it forms. Probably the H2O2 will degrade with  time, but
>   the cs  should have been ingested long before that happens.  I don't
>   think the  stabilizers  they  add   are   any  problem  at  such low
>   concentration.
>
>   When I push Godzilla to over 30 ppm (calculated), it  starts showing
>   a slight  tint. When I add about 0.2 ppm of H2O2  (1/2  teaspoon per
>   litre) and let it sit overnight, the tint disappears. The  amount of
>   H2O2 is so small it is barely noticeable.
>
>   > Regards,
>
>   > Trem
>
>   > P.S. Have  you found a new apartment or are  you  still struggling
>   > with mold spores. I hope you're feeling better and get well soon.
>
>   Thanks for  mentioning it, Trem. It looks like the  battle  is over.
>   The mold has won, and I'm out of resources to continue the fight.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Mike Monett
>
>
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Re: CS>cs and cancer Trem

[Stuff]

Have u tried a nebulizer with CS for ur mold problem?

At 11:55 PM 9/21/2003 -0400, you wrote:

url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m62645.html
CS>cs and cancer Trem
From: Trem
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 12:50:29

  Hi Trem,

  > Hi Mike,

  > Thanks for  your  comments  and   the   link.  I  hadn't  seen any
  > references to  viruses and cancer but it was a no  brainer  for me
  > after seeing these cancers disappear. I just couldn't deny  what I
  > was seeing. I knew that they couldn't all be spontaneous remission
  > and CS was the only thing they were taking.

  The information  I collected describes more varieties of  cancer and
  the different  types of viruses that cause them. Also,  most  of the
  population carries  some  of these viruses around,  ready  to strike
  whenever the immune system degrades.

  Your news  is exceptional. It is the first time I have  heard  of cs
  killing cancer. But it makes sense.

  > One of my favorite sayings is "I want to save the world...10 to 20
  > PPM at a time." I think it's working.

  I think so too. After seeing the effect that high ionic cs had on my
  Shingles virus,  there is no doubt in my mind that  you  are killing
  the cancer.  This  is amazing news, Trem. Thank  you  very  much for
  posting the information.

  But the cs has to be strong - 20 ppm or more. The 10 ppm or  so from
  the 3  nines won't do the job. At least, it didn't help  my Shingles
  problem one bit.

  > The PWT meters usually read 20+ - 25 uS at completion of  the test
  > run but  that  figure  drops down overnight as  some  of  the ions
  > change to colloids.

  I wasn't  sure how you converted from uS to ppm - it looks  like you
  use a  unity  conversion factor. I found  some  interesting  data on
  Frank Key's site that may help validate this. He measured the uS and
  ppm for a number of products and lists the results at:

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html

  I selected five that seem to correlate well. Here is the list:

  Product Name  Conductivity  Ionic PPM  Ratio
      ~  ~
  Silver Lightning3.3 uS/cm3.71 ppm  0.889
  Mesosilver  3.9 uS/cm3.9  ppm  1.0
  Sovereign Silver9.7 uS/cm9.22 ppm  1.052
  ASAP Solution  11.4 uS/cm   10.65 ppm  1.070
  ASAP Solution  20.1 uS/cm   19.59 ppm  1.026

  The average is

0.889 + 1.0 + 1.052 + 1.070 + 1.026 = 5.037 / 5 = 1.0074

  So it looks like the unity conversion factor is valid.

  I'm sure  you  know  about adding a bit  of  H2O2  to  convert those
  useless oxide particles back to good ions. Please forgive me,  but I
  just gotta insert one equation here:)

  I think the H2O2 acts as a catalyst to convert silver oxide to ions:

2Ag2O + H2O2 --> 4Ag(+) + O2(g) + H2O2

  So the  H2O2 is not consumed and will continue converting  the oxide
  as soon  as it forms. Probably the H2O2 will degrade with  time, but
  the cs  should have been ingested long before that happens.  I don't
  think the  stabilizers  they  add   are   any  problem  at  such low
  concentration.

  When I push Godzilla to over 30 ppm (calculated), it  starts showing
  a slight  tint. When I add about 0.2 ppm of H2O2  (1/2  teaspoon per
  litre) and let it sit overnight, the tint disappears. The  amount of
  H2O2 is so small it is barely noticeable.

  > Regards,

  > Trem

  > P.S. Have  you found a new apartment or are  you  still struggling
  > with mold spores. I hope you're feeling better and get well soon.

  Thanks for  mentioning it, Trem. It looks like the  battle  is over.
  The mold has won, and I'm out of resources to continue the fight.

Best Regards,

Mike Monett


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Re: CS>cs and cancer Trem

[GoToHoll]

Ken wrote:> 
> 

<<>>

Thanks, Ken for writing this! Sums it up for me, I just wish it hadn't taken 
me 48 years to figure it out...  (It's a big job just trying to save myself)

Laura H.
TX

 

 

CS>cs and cancer

[Robert Camara]

Hi Trem!  Thank you so much for your answer.


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[Mike Monett]

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CS>cs and cancer Trem
From: Trem
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 12:50:29

  Hi Trem,

  > Hi Mike,

  > Thanks for  your  comments  and   the   link.  I  hadn't  seen any
  > references to  viruses and cancer but it was a no  brainer  for me
  > after seeing these cancers disappear. I just couldn't deny  what I
  > was seeing. I knew that they couldn't all be spontaneous remission
  > and CS was the only thing they were taking.

  The information  I collected describes more varieties of  cancer and
  the different  types of viruses that cause them. Also,  most  of the
  population carries  some  of these viruses around,  ready  to strike
  whenever the immune system degrades.

  Your news  is exceptional. It is the first time I have  heard  of cs
  killing cancer. But it makes sense.

  > One of my favorite sayings is "I want to save the world...10 to 20
  > PPM at a time." I think it's working.

  I think so too. After seeing the effect that high ionic cs had on my
  Shingles virus,  there is no doubt in my mind that  you  are killing
  the cancer.  This  is amazing news, Trem. Thank  you  very  much for
  posting the information.

  But the cs has to be strong - 20 ppm or more. The 10 ppm or  so from
  the 3  nines won't do the job. At least, it didn't help  my Shingles
  problem one bit.

  > The PWT meters usually read 20+ - 25 uS at completion of  the test
  > run but  that  figure  drops down overnight as  some  of  the ions
  > change to colloids.

  I wasn't  sure how you converted from uS to ppm - it looks  like you
  use a  unity  conversion factor. I found  some  interesting  data on
  Frank Key's site that may help validate this. He measured the uS and
  ppm for a number of products and lists the results at:

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html

  I selected five that seem to correlate well. Here is the list:

  Product Name  Conductivity  Ionic PPM  Ratio
      ~  ~
  Silver Lightning3.3 uS/cm3.71 ppm  0.889
  Mesosilver  3.9 uS/cm3.9  ppm  1.0
  Sovereign Silver9.7 uS/cm9.22 ppm  1.052
  ASAP Solution  11.4 uS/cm   10.65 ppm  1.070
  ASAP Solution  20.1 uS/cm   19.59 ppm  1.026

  The average is

0.889 + 1.0 + 1.052 + 1.070 + 1.026 = 5.037 / 5 = 1.0074

  So it looks like the unity conversion factor is valid.

  I'm sure  you  know  about adding a bit  of  H2O2  to  convert those
  useless oxide particles back to good ions. Please forgive me,  but I
  just gotta insert one equation here:)

  I think the H2O2 acts as a catalyst to convert silver oxide to ions:

2Ag2O + H2O2 --> 4Ag(+) + O2(g) + H2O2

  So the  H2O2 is not consumed and will continue converting  the oxide
  as soon  as it forms. Probably the H2O2 will degrade with  time, but
  the cs  should have been ingested long before that happens.  I don't
  think the  stabilizers  they  add   are   any  problem  at  such low
  concentration.

  When I push Godzilla to over 30 ppm (calculated), it  starts showing
  a slight  tint. When I add about 0.2 ppm of H2O2  (1/2  teaspoon per
  litre) and let it sit overnight, the tint disappears. The  amount of
  H2O2 is so small it is barely noticeable.

  > Regards,

  > Trem

  > P.S. Have  you found a new apartment or are  you  still struggling
  > with mold spores. I hope you're feeling better and get well soon.

  Thanks for  mentioning it, Trem. It looks like the  battle  is over.
  The mold has won, and I'm out of resources to continue the fight.

Best Regards,

Mike Monett


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Re: CS>cs and cancer Trem

[mamapug]

,  and papiloma 
> virus and cervical cancer,  is pretty well known I think.

Hmm, I had papilloma virus, no thanks to the Ex. :o(
CS works though, because my latest test showed I`m clear of the virus!
Marshalee


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Re: CS>cs and cancer Trem

[Mike Monett]

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Re: CS>cs and cancer Trem
From: Ode Coyote
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 17:15:15

  > I know Trem.

  > I don't  shove CS down anyones throat. I will sing  a  bit though.
  > :-) I  just  wondered if you had anyone  else  that  succeeded who
  > might set the tune.

  > It's not my business to go around saving people. That's their job.
  > I might supply an easy 'means' of doing it 'if' they want to.

  > 1st rule  of  help: You can only help  someone  down  their chosen
  > path. Regardless of the energies you apply, it is always them that
  > chooses where they go.

  > 2nd rule of help: The harder you push help down a  different path,
  > the more resistance it creates.

  > A leader is the first one to walk the path. If he's  worried about
  > who's following...he can't see where he's going and  will probably
  > get lost.

  > Ode [Ken]

  HeHe - I was very sick and a friend sent me Metcalf's  cs generator.
  A bit later, she called and asked if I had started taking it yet.

  When I  hemmed  and hawed, she said "If you  don't  start  taking it
  right now, I'm going to get on a plane and fly to Toronto  and shove
  it down your throat."

  I knew  she  was perfectly capable of doing exactly  what  she said.
  When I started taking it, I was amazed at the things it cured.

  It's easy to understand someone's reluctance to try cs. It is is not
  like anything they have encountered before, and it just doesn't seem
  possible it  can  do all the things they tell  you.  So  the natural
  reaction is to get very suspicious about the whole idea. In my case,
  it took someone willing to shove it down my throat.

  Just exactly the kind of leadership I needed at the time:)

Best Regards,

Mike Monett


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Re: CS>cs and cancer Trem

[Jonathan B. Britten]

The best recent work on viruses and cancer that I know of is that of Y. 
Omura,  M.D.,  creator of the bi-digital o-ring test.You can find 
free abstracts quickly;  do a Google search.Note, though, that the 
viral/cancer connection goes way back. In mainstream medicine,  the 
connection between heliobacter pylori and stomach cancer,  and papiloma 
virus and cervical cancer,  is pretty well known I think.As for 
other cancers,  I am not sure.





On Monday, Sep 22, 2003, at 01:29 Asia/Tokyo, Trem wrote:


Hi Mike,

Thanks for your comments and the link.  I hadn't seen any references to
viruses and cancer but it was a no brainer for me after seeing these 
cancers

disappear.  I just couldn't deny what I was seeing.  I knew that they
couldn't all be spontaneous remission and CS was the only thing they 
were

taking.

One of my favorite sayings is "I want to save the world...10 to 20 PPM 
at a

time."  I think it's working.

The PWT meters usually read 20+ - 25 uS at completion of the test run 
but
that figure drops down overnight as some of the ions change to 
colloids.


Regards,

Trem

P.S.  Have you found a new apartment or are you still struggling with 
mold

spores.  I hope you're feeling better and get well soon.




- Original Message -
From: "Mike Monett" <31dtzj...@sneakemail.com>
To: "Silver List" 
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: CS>cs and cancer Trem



==
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  Re: CS>cs and cancer Trem
  From: Trem
  Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 15:08:24


Hi Shirley



I don't know what happened to my post. I sent itan hour  ago. Here
it is again. I hope it gets through this time



Hi Lynda,



Here are a few cases. I hope this helps.



1. 80+ year old man with visible cancers in eye and mouth and also
had lung  cancer. In hospice, weight 125 pounds. Wife  started him
on as much as he could drink daily. She said she tried to  get him
to drink  a gallon a day of 20 PPM CS. That's what  our generators
make at the high setting.. Within 2 weeks the visible  cancers had
disappeared. He was told to leave shortly after that and come back
when he was ready to die. That was about a year and a half or more
ago. Last  I  heard he was up to 150+ pounds,  healthy  and cancer
free.



2. Whippet age 13 had lumps all over its body. Customer took it to
vet and  after cutting the dog open, the vet sewed it up  and said
"take it home...it'll be dead soon". Diagnosis, hemangioma sarcoma
(sp) Customer began to give it CS as drinking water only. Within a
week the  dog  was  up and out of  its  deathbed  and  starting to
frolic. Within 2-3 weeks the lumps disappeared and the dog started
carrying the mans underwear outside as it had done as a  pup. Last
contact was  when the dog was 15. Still acting like  a  pup. Owner
said he'd  have 5 whippets and the longest any of them  lasted was
12 years. No placebo effect there



3. A neighbor had previously been diagnosed with breast  cancer 10
years earlier and had received chemo and radiation. Was pronounced
cured.About a  ear  and  a half ago she  fell  down  with  pain in
crotch. Was  taken  to  a hospital  and  x-rays  revealed  she had
metastasized cancer  and  her pelvis had broken in  half.  Had two
tumors the  size of racquetballs on bowel. Another  behind sternum
which pressed on esophagus and kept her from being able to  eat or
drink much. They wanted to try chemo and radiation again. She told
them no.  Said  she'd  just check out with  some  dignity  and she
didn't want to face that terrible experience again.



I asked  her  if she wanted to try CS. She agreed.  I  gave  her 2
liters a day of 20+PPM CS to drink. Said she probably couldn't get
it down  because of swallowing difficulty. After several  days she
called me and said it was now easy to swallow and the  pressure on
her esophagus  was  gone.   After   3   weeks  she  went  for more
radiographs and the tumors had shrunk to the size of cotton balls.
After six weeks the tumors were completely gone and her blood work
is normal.  It  is now about a year and a half  later  and  when I
spoke with  recently she said everything seemed to be  normal. She
did mention  a pain in the bone below one knee but said  her blood
work was  normal  and  the  doctors  said  she  was  apparently in
remission. She says she's sure it's gone. We'll see.



I hope this helps you.



Trem


  Trem, this  is  absolutely  amazing.   Thank  you  for  posting this
  information. I  did a brief google search on the words  "virus cause
  cancer" and  found  there definitely is a link  between  viruses and
  cancer. What  you say makes sense. I know  from  personal experience
  that high  ionic cs can kill viruses like Shingles, which  are among
  the most  difficult.  So  if cs can  kill  a  virus  associate

Re: CS>cs and cancer Trem

[Ode Coyote]

  I know Trem.
 I don't shove CS down anyones throat. I will sing a bit though.  :-)
I just wondered if you had anyone else that succeeded who might set the tune.

 It's not my business to go around saving people.  That's their job. I
might supply an easy 'means' of doing it 'if' they want to.

 1st rule of help:
  You can only help someone down their chosen path. Regardless of the
energies you apply, it is always them that chooses where they go.
2nd rule of help:
  The harder you push help down a different path, the more resistance it
creates.

 A leader is the first one to walk the path.
If he's worried about who's following...he can't see where he's going and
will probably get lost.

Ode [Ken]





At 07:25 AM 9/20/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>Remember the old adage "you can lead the horse to the water but you can't
>make him drink it"?  I offered two gay men with HIV all the CS they could
>drink free if only they would give me feedback on their viral and T cell
>counts.  One had full blown AIDS and said he wasn't going to do it because I
>would make money off his sickness and he was offended.  He died a couple of
>months ago.  He had tried it a couple of times and his caretaker said he
>improved every time he tried it but he still wouldn't get with it.
>
>Maybe I'll approach his partner again.  He's not full blown yet.
>
>You can't do anything Ken.  He will or he won't and that's it.
>
>Trem
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Ode Coyote" 
>To: 
>Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 1:25 AM
>Subject: Re: CS>cs and cancer Trem
>
>
>>Any results on brain cancer?
>>  I have a friend that's totally paralyzed and doped up..late stage brain
>> tumor.
>>
>>  I gave him a quart but last I looked he only drank a quarter of it.
>>  He's always been a stubborn but non mainstream sort.
>>  He never wears shoes even in winter and does construction work, if that's
>> a clue
>>  Maybe some anecdotal encouragement?
>>
>> Ode
>>
>>
>>
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CS>cs and cancer Trem

[Trem]

Hi Mike,

Thanks for your comments and the link.  I hadn't seen any references to
viruses and cancer but it was a no brainer for me after seeing these cancers
disappear.  I just couldn't deny what I was seeing.  I knew that they
couldn't all be spontaneous remission and CS was the only thing they were
taking.

One of my favorite sayings is "I want to save the world...10 to 20 PPM at a
time."  I think it's working.

The PWT meters usually read 20+ - 25 uS at completion of the test run but
that figure drops down overnight as some of the ions change to colloids.

Regards,

Trem

P.S.  Have you found a new apartment or are you still struggling with mold
spores.  I hope you're feeling better and get well soon.




- Original Message -
From: "Mike Monett" <31dtzj...@sneakemail.com>
To: "Silver List" 
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: CS>cs and cancer Trem


> ==
>   url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m62624.html
>   Re: CS>cs and cancer Trem
>   From: Trem
>   Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 15:08:24
>
>   > Hi Shirley
>
>   > I don't know what happened to my post. I sent itan hour  ago. Here
>   > it is again. I hope it gets through this time
>
>   > Hi Lynda,
>
>   > Here are a few cases. I hope this helps.
>
>   > 1. 80+ year old man with visible cancers in eye and mouth and also
>   > had lung  cancer. In hospice, weight 125 pounds. Wife  started him
>   > on as much as he could drink daily. She said she tried to  get him
>   > to drink  a gallon a day of 20 PPM CS. That's what  our generators
>   > make at the high setting.. Within 2 weeks the visible  cancers had
>   > disappeared. He was told to leave shortly after that and come back
>   > when he was ready to die. That was about a year and a half or more
>   > ago. Last  I  heard he was up to 150+ pounds,  healthy  and cancer
>   > free.
>
>   > 2. Whippet age 13 had lumps all over its body. Customer took it to
>   > vet and  after cutting the dog open, the vet sewed it up  and said
>   > "take it home...it'll be dead soon". Diagnosis, hemangioma sarcoma
>   > (sp) Customer began to give it CS as drinking water only. Within a
>   > week the  dog  was  up and out of  its  deathbed  and  starting to
>   > frolic. Within 2-3 weeks the lumps disappeared and the dog started
>   > carrying the mans underwear outside as it had done as a  pup. Last
>   > contact was  when the dog was 15. Still acting like  a  pup. Owner
>   > said he'd  have 5 whippets and the longest any of them  lasted was
>   > 12 years. No placebo effect there
>
>   > 3. A neighbor had previously been diagnosed with breast  cancer 10
>   > years earlier and had received chemo and radiation. Was pronounced
>   > cured.About a  ear  and  a half ago she  fell  down  with  pain in
>   > crotch. Was  taken  to  a hospital  and  x-rays  revealed  she had
>   > metastasized cancer  and  her pelvis had broken in  half.  Had two
>   > tumors the  size of racquetballs on bowel. Another  behind sternum
>   > which pressed on esophagus and kept her from being able to  eat or
>   > drink much. They wanted to try chemo and radiation again. She told
>   > them no.  Said  she'd  just check out with  some  dignity  and she
>   > didn't want to face that terrible experience again.
>
>   > I asked  her  if she wanted to try CS. She agreed.  I  gave  her 2
>   > liters a day of 20+PPM CS to drink. Said she probably couldn't get
>   > it down  because of swallowing difficulty. After several  days she
>   > called me and said it was now easy to swallow and the  pressure on
>   > her esophagus  was  gone.   After   3   weeks  she  went  for more
>   > radiographs and the tumors had shrunk to the size of cotton balls.
>   > After six weeks the tumors were completely gone and her blood work
>   > is normal.  It  is now about a year and a half  later  and  when I
>   > spoke with  recently she said everything seemed to be  normal. She
>   > did mention  a pain in the bone below one knee but said  her blood
>   > work was  normal  and  the  doctors  said  she  was  apparently in
>   > remission. She says she's sure it's gone. We'll see.
>
>   > I hope this helps you.
>
>   > Trem
>
>   Trem, this  is  absolutely  amazing.   Thank  you  for  posting this
>   information. I  did a brief google search on the words  "virus cause
>   cancer" and  found  there definitely is a link  between  viruses and
>   cancer. What  you say makes sense. I know  from  personal experience
>   that high  ionic cs can kill 

Re: CS>cs and cancer Trem

[Mike Monett]

==
  url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m62624.html
  Re: CS>cs and cancer Trem
  From: Trem
  Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 15:08:24

  > Hi Shirley

  > I don't know what happened to my post. I sent itan hour  ago. Here
  > it is again. I hope it gets through this time

  > Hi Lynda,

  > Here are a few cases. I hope this helps.

  > 1. 80+ year old man with visible cancers in eye and mouth and also
  > had lung  cancer. In hospice, weight 125 pounds. Wife  started him
  > on as much as he could drink daily. She said she tried to  get him
  > to drink  a gallon a day of 20 PPM CS. That's what  our generators
  > make at the high setting.. Within 2 weeks the visible  cancers had
  > disappeared. He was told to leave shortly after that and come back
  > when he was ready to die. That was about a year and a half or more
  > ago. Last  I  heard he was up to 150+ pounds,  healthy  and cancer
  > free.

  > 2. Whippet age 13 had lumps all over its body. Customer took it to
  > vet and  after cutting the dog open, the vet sewed it up  and said
  > "take it home...it'll be dead soon". Diagnosis, hemangioma sarcoma
  > (sp) Customer began to give it CS as drinking water only. Within a
  > week the  dog  was  up and out of  its  deathbed  and  starting to
  > frolic. Within 2-3 weeks the lumps disappeared and the dog started
  > carrying the mans underwear outside as it had done as a  pup. Last
  > contact was  when the dog was 15. Still acting like  a  pup. Owner
  > said he'd  have 5 whippets and the longest any of them  lasted was
  > 12 years. No placebo effect there

  > 3. A neighbor had previously been diagnosed with breast  cancer 10
  > years earlier and had received chemo and radiation. Was pronounced
  > cured.About a  ear  and  a half ago she  fell  down  with  pain in
  > crotch. Was  taken  to  a hospital  and  x-rays  revealed  she had
  > metastasized cancer  and  her pelvis had broken in  half.  Had two
  > tumors the  size of racquetballs on bowel. Another  behind sternum
  > which pressed on esophagus and kept her from being able to  eat or
  > drink much. They wanted to try chemo and radiation again. She told
  > them no.  Said  she'd  just check out with  some  dignity  and she
  > didn't want to face that terrible experience again.

  > I asked  her  if she wanted to try CS. She agreed.  I  gave  her 2
  > liters a day of 20+PPM CS to drink. Said she probably couldn't get
  > it down  because of swallowing difficulty. After several  days she
  > called me and said it was now easy to swallow and the  pressure on
  > her esophagus  was  gone.   After   3   weeks  she  went  for more
  > radiographs and the tumors had shrunk to the size of cotton balls.
  > After six weeks the tumors were completely gone and her blood work
  > is normal.  It  is now about a year and a half  later  and  when I
  > spoke with  recently she said everything seemed to be  normal. She
  > did mention  a pain in the bone below one knee but said  her blood
  > work was  normal  and  the  doctors  said  she  was  apparently in
  > remission. She says she's sure it's gone. We'll see.

  > I hope this helps you.

  > Trem

  Trem, this  is  absolutely  amazing.   Thank  you  for  posting this
  information. I  did a brief google search on the words  "virus cause
  cancer" and  found  there definitely is a link  between  viruses and
  cancer. What  you say makes sense. I know  from  personal experience
  that high  ionic cs can kill viruses like Shingles, which  are among
  the most  difficult.  So  if cs can  kill  a  virus  associated with
  cancer, the cancer should stop growing.

  Here's an interesting list copied from

  http://www.bioelectric.ws/eng/cviruses.html

  

  The July  14th 1997 issue of Business Week has an article  about how
  many cancers  are  linked   to   various  viruses  and  bacteria and
  parasites. Among the organisms now linked to cancer are as follows:

  MicrobeType of Cancer
  -----
  Hepatitis B Virus  Liver Cancer
  Human Papiloma Virus ( HPV )   Cervical Cancer
  Helicobacter PyloriStomach Cancer
  HTLV-1 A type of Leukemia in Japan
  Epstein- Barr virus (EBV)  Burketts Lymphoma, naso pharyngeal
 cancer
  Kaposi's Sarcoma Herpes Virus (KSHV)   Kaposi's Sarcoma,  and 100 % of
 Myeloma cases.
  SchistosomiasisBladder Cancer
  Liver Flukes   Liver and biliary cancer
  Helicobacter hepatic

Re: CS>cs and cancer Trem

[Wolf Creek Ranch]

Ken ~

As Trem advised and Hulda Clark's books state, diseased people will often
lay there, with ALL the holistic protocols sitting next to their beds,
having never taken them and die...

>From the sounds of Trem's posts, it's highly possible if he drank enough, he
could beat this brain cancer.  From Hulda's books, she has advised that
large doses of black walnut tincture (8-10 tsps./day) has often helped those
who seemed helpless - bedridden, etc., and had them up and walking within a
few days.

I am sorry to hear about your friend.  I  lost a truly great friend to brain
cancer a couple of years ago.  The hospital sent him home to die and his
family (wife and 2 teenage sons), did NOT want to give him the freshly made
essiac tea I had taken him (2 oz. 3x/day), along with the CS, and organic
grape juice, as it would make him urinate, so they'd have to change his
diaper...people are messed up.  I wanted to bring him home with me and help
him.  I asked him if he wanted to live and he shook his head yes.  He could
barely speak and was bedridden in such a short period of time.  His own
family wouldn't even try, cuz the traditional doc's said he was gonna die.
Two months prior, he was happy, vigorous and healthy.

Best wishes for your friend and to you for trying to be there for him.

Julie & Critters
- Original Message -
From: "Ode Coyote" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 1:25 AM
Subject: Re: CS>cs and cancer Trem


>Any results on brain cancer?
>  I have a friend that's totally paralyzed and doped up..late stage brain
> tumor.
>
>  I gave him a quart but last I looked he only drank a quarter of it.
>  He's always been a stubborn but non mainstream sort.
>  He never wears shoes even in winter and does construction work, if that's
> a clue
>  Maybe some anecdotal encouragement?
>
> Ode
>
>
>
>
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CS>cs and cancer Trem

[Trem]

Remember the old adage "you can lead the horse to the water but you can't
make him drink it"?  I offered two gay men with HIV all the CS they could
drink free if only they would give me feedback on their viral and T cell
counts.  One had full blown AIDS and said he wasn't going to do it because I
would make money off his sickness and he was offended.  He died a couple of
months ago.  He had tried it a couple of times and his caretaker said he
improved every time he tried it but he still wouldn't get with it.

Maybe I'll approach his partner again.  He's not full blown yet.

You can't do anything Ken.  He will or he won't and that's it.

Trem


- Original Message -
From: "Ode Coyote" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 1:25 AM
Subject: Re: CS>cs and cancer Trem


>Any results on brain cancer?
>  I have a friend that's totally paralyzed and doped up..late stage brain
> tumor.
>
>  I gave him a quart but last I looked he only drank a quarter of it.
>  He's always been a stubborn but non mainstream sort.
>  He never wears shoes even in winter and does construction work, if that's
> a clue
>  Maybe some anecdotal encouragement?
>
> Ode
>
>
>
>
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Re: CS>cs and cancer Trem

[Ode Coyote]

   Any results on brain cancer?
 I have a friend that's totally paralyzed and doped up..late stage brain
tumor.

 I gave him a quart but last I looked he only drank a quarter of it.
 He's always been a stubborn but non mainstream sort.
 He never wears shoes even in winter and does construction work, if that's
a clue
 Maybe some anecdotal encouragement?

Ode




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Re: CS>cs and cancer Trem

[Wolf Creek Ranch]

Trem ~

May we have permission to crosspost your info here? :-)

Thanks!

Julie & Critters
- Original Message -
From: "Trem" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: CS>cs and cancer Trem


> Hi Shirley
>
> I don't know what happened to my post.  I sent it an hour ago.  Here it is
again.  I hope it gets through this time
>
> Hi Lynda,
>
> Here are a few cases. I hope this helps.
>
> 1.80+ year old man with visible cancers in eye and mouth and also had
lung cancer.  In hospice, weight 125 pounds.  Wife started him on as much as
he could drink daily.  She said she tried to get him to drink a gallon a day
of 20 PPM CS.  That's what our generators make at the high setting..  Within
2 weeks the visible cancers had disappeared.  He was told to leave shortly
after that and come back when he was ready to die.  That was about a year
and a half or more ago.  Last I heard he was up to 150+ pounds, healthy and
cancer free.
>
> 2.Whippet age 13 had lumps all over its body.  Customer took it to vet
and after cutting the dog open, the vet sewed it up and said "take it
home...it'll be dead soon".  Diagnosis, hemangioma sarcoma (sp)   Customer
began to give it CS as drinking water only.  Within a week the dog was up
and out of its deathbed and starting to frolic.  Within 2-3 weeks the lumps
disappeared and the dog started carrying the mans underwear outside as it
had done as a pup.  Last contact was when the dog was 15.  Still acting like
a pup.  Owner said he'd have 5 whippets and the longest any of them lasted
was 12 years.  No placebo effect there
>
> 3.A neighbor had previously been diagnosed with breast cancer 10 years
earlier and had received chemo and radiation.  Was pronounced cured. About a
ear and a half ago she fell down with pain in crotch.  Was taken to a
hospital and x-rays revealed she had metastasized cancer and her pelvis had
broken in half.  Had two tumors the size of racquetballs on bowel.  Another
behind sternum which pressed on esophagus and kept her from being able to
eat or drink much.  They wanted to try chemo and radiation again.  She told
them no.  Said she'd just check out with some dignity and she didn't want to
face that terrible experience again.
>
> I asked her if she wanted to try CS.  She agreed.  I gave her 2 liters a
day of 20+ PPM CS to drink.  Said she probably couldn't get it down because
of swallowing difficulty.  After several days she called me and said it was
now easy to swallow and the pressure on her esophagus was gone.  After 3
weeks she went for more radiographs and the tumors had shrunk to the size of
cotton balls.  After six weeks the tumors were completely gone and her blood
work is normal. It is now about a year and a half later and when I spoke
with recently she said everything seemed to be normal.  She did mention a
pain in the bone below one knee but said her blood work was normal and the
doctors said she was apparently in remission.  She says she's sure it's
gone.  We'll see.
>
> I hope this helps you.
>
> Trem
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -
>   From: Shirley Reed
>   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>   Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 2:36 PM
>   Subject: CS>cs and cancer Trem
>
>
>  Trem, I second Lynda's(?) questions.  How much cs per day did these
people take and any other information you have regarding cancer remissions.
With gratitude,  pj
>
>
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Re: CS>cs and cancer Trem

[Lynda Khula]

thank you for the info
Lynda


- Original Message - 
  From: Trem 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 6:03 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>cs and cancer Trem


  Hi Shirley

  I don't know what happened to my post.  I sent it an hour ago.  Here it is 
again.  I hope it gets through this time

  Hi Lynda,

  Here are a few cases. I hope this helps.

  1.80+ year old man with visible cancers in eye and mouth and also had 
lung cancer.  In hospice, weight 125 pounds.  Wife started him on as much as he 
could drink daily.  She said she tried to get him to drink a gallon a day of 20 
PPM CS.  That's what our generators make at the high setting..  Within 2 weeks 
the visible cancers had disappeared.  He was told to leave shortly after that 
and come back when he was ready to die.  That was about a year and a half or 
more ago.  Last I heard he was up to 150+ pounds, healthy and cancer free.

  2.Whippet age 13 had lumps all over its body.  Customer took it to vet 
and after cutting the dog open, the vet sewed it up and said "take it 
home...it'll be dead soon".  Diagnosis, hemangioma sarcoma (sp)   Customer 
began to give it CS as drinking water only.  Within a week the dog was up and 
out of its deathbed and starting to frolic.  Within 2-3 weeks the lumps 
disappeared and the dog started carrying the mans underwear outside as it had 
done as a pup.  Last contact was when the dog was 15.  Still acting like a pup. 
 Owner said he'd have 5 whippets and the longest any of them lasted  was 12 
years.  No placebo effect there

  3.A neighbor had previously been diagnosed with breast cancer 10 years 
earlier and had received chemo and radiation.  Was pronounced cured. About a 
ear and a half ago she fell down with pain in crotch.  Was taken to a hospital 
and x-rays revealed she had metastasized cancer and her pelvis had broken in 
half.  Had two tumors the size of racquetballs on bowel.  Another behind 
sternum which pressed on esophagus and kept her from being able to eat or drink 
much.  They wanted to try chemo and radiation again.  She told them no.  Said 
she'd just check out with some dignity and she didn't want to face that 
terrible experience again.  

  I asked her if she wanted to try CS.  She agreed.  I gave her 2 liters a day 
of 20+ PPM CS to drink.  Said she probably couldn't get it down because of 
swallowing difficulty.  After several days she called me and said it was now 
easy to swallow and the pressure on her esophagus was gone.  After 3 weeks she 
went for more radiographs and the tumors had shrunk to the size of cotton 
balls.  After six weeks the tumors were completely gone and her blood work is 
normal. It is now about a year and a half later and when I spoke with recently 
she said everything seemed to be normal.  She did mention a pain in the bone 
below one knee but said her blood work was normal and the doctors said she was 
apparently in remission.  She says she's sure it's gone.  We'll see.

  I hope this helps you.

  Trem 



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From: Shirley Reed 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
    Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 2:36 PM
Subject: CS>cs and cancer Trem


   Trem, I second Lynda's(?) questions.  How much cs per day did these 
people take and any other information you have regarding cancer remissions.  
With gratitude,  pj



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[Trem]

Hi Shirley

I don't know what happened to my post.  I sent it an hour ago.  Here it is 
again.  I hope it gets through this time

Hi Lynda,

Here are a few cases. I hope this helps.

1.80+ year old man with visible cancers in eye and mouth and also had lung 
cancer.  In hospice, weight 125 pounds.  Wife started him on as much as he 
could drink daily.  She said she tried to get him to drink a gallon a day of 20 
PPM CS.  That's what our generators make at the high setting..  Within 2 weeks 
the visible cancers had disappeared.  He was told to leave shortly after that 
and come back when he was ready to die.  That was about a year and a half or 
more ago.  Last I heard he was up to 150+ pounds, healthy and cancer free.

2.Whippet age 13 had lumps all over its body.  Customer took it to vet and 
after cutting the dog open, the vet sewed it up and said "take it home...it'll 
be dead soon".  Diagnosis, hemangioma sarcoma (sp)   Customer began to give it 
CS as drinking water only.  Within a week the dog was up and out of its 
deathbed and starting to frolic.  Within 2-3 weeks the lumps disappeared and 
the dog started carrying the mans underwear outside as it had done as a pup.  
Last contact was when the dog was 15.  Still acting like a pup.  Owner said 
he'd have 5 whippets and the longest any of them lasted  was 12 years.  No 
placebo effect there

3.A neighbor had previously been diagnosed with breast cancer 10 years 
earlier and had received chemo and radiation.  Was pronounced cured. About a 
ear and a half ago she fell down with pain in crotch.  Was taken to a hospital 
and x-rays revealed she had metastasized cancer and her pelvis had broken in 
half.  Had two tumors the size of racquetballs on bowel.  Another behind 
sternum which pressed on esophagus and kept her from being able to eat or drink 
much.  They wanted to try chemo and radiation again.  She told them no.  Said 
she'd just check out with some dignity and she didn't want to face that 
terrible experience again.  

I asked her if she wanted to try CS.  She agreed.  I gave her 2 liters a day of 
20+ PPM CS to drink.  Said she probably couldn't get it down because of 
swallowing difficulty.  After several days she called me and said it was now 
easy to swallow and the pressure on her esophagus was gone.  After 3 weeks she 
went for more radiographs and the tumors had shrunk to the size of cotton 
balls.  After six weeks the tumors were completely gone and her blood work is 
normal. It is now about a year and a half later and when I spoke with recently 
she said everything seemed to be normal.  She did mention a pain in the bone 
below one knee but said her blood work was normal and the doctors said she was 
apparently in remission.  She says she's sure it's gone.  We'll see.

I hope this helps you.

Trem 



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  From: Shirley Reed 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 2:36 PM
  Subject: CS>cs and cancer Trem


 Trem, I second Lynda's(?) questions.  How much cs per day did these people 
take and any other information you have regarding cancer remissions.  With 
gratitude,  pj


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[Shirley Reed]

   Trem, I second Lynda's(?) questions.  How much cs per day did these people 
take and any other information you have regarding cancer remissions.  With 
gratitude,  pj


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