Re: CS> Boiling water
>In a message dated 7/6/99 1:22:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, j...@glol.net >writes: ><< Too high a microsiemens reading and I will make very > large particle cs. >> >Hi Reid >What does a microsiemen meter cost? >wong Sorry I didn't make that post you need to ask j...@glol.net. Take Care Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> Boiling water
In a message dated 7/6/99 1:22:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, j...@glol.net writes: << Too high a microsiemens reading and I will make very large particle cs. >> Hi Reid What does a microsiemen meter cost? wong -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS> Boiling water
Thanks Marshall; I'll search for them. James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [SMTP:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 10:28 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS> Boiling water You might be able to find one. Problem is the calibration. The instrument will give you the absorption spectrum down to about 190 nm WAVELENGTH, and you have to figure out what that responds to in nm of particle size. Marshall James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: > Hi Marshall, and all, > > Do you know if the scanning photospectrometer will read down to about 1 > nm? Is there a used market for the things, and about how much do they > cost? This sounds like a possible low-cost alternative to electron > microscopy for verifying production particle size. > > Thanks, > James Osbourne, Holmes > > a...@trail.com > > -Original Message- > From: Marshall Dudley [SMTP:mdud...@execonn.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 12:45 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject:Re: CS> Boiling water > > Reid Smith wrote: > > > >Charles Marcus wrote: > > >Until someone gives (a) specific reason(s) for it being > > >Hot means higher energy. Higher energy means more Browning movement. > More > > >Browning movement means higher likelyhood of overcoming the mutual > repulsion > > >of the charge between particles. When particles bang together the > aggregate, > > >thus producing bigger particles. > > >This would likely produce a gold colored colloid instead of a clear > colloid, > > >which would confirm that the particles are larger. Smaller is better. > > >Marshall > > > >Where did you get the idea that a gold colored CS is a sign of > > larger particals? I find that VERY hard to believe. The reason I say > > that is I made CS for some time and never once got a gold color until > > I changed the type of distilled water that I was using. EVERY thing > > was exactly the same except the water. > > It is not an idea, it is a well known fact. Check any textbook on > colloidal > chemistry. I have given this information several times before on this > list. > This is documented in many scientific journals and papers. AT > http://silver-lightning.com/research2.html we have the following paragraph: > > The absorption band of silver colloids > increases in > wavelength as the size of the particles > increase. This allows a qualitative > measurement on > the particle sizes in a colloid by use of > a scanning photospectrometer. Ionic silver has > an > absorption band in the UV range and > thus is virtually clear. As more atoms > aggregate > into a particle, the absorption band > moves from the UV into the violet, blue, > green, > yellow, orange and red. Since, the color of > a substance is the complement of the color > absorbed > colloidal silver will go from clear to > very light yellow, gold, orange, red, blue and > green. (Collloidal Chemistry p 65). Colloids that contain a > broad range of sizes can absorb wavelengths > across > the spectrum resulting in brown and > black. It is generally accepted that only > clear to > light gold silver colloids have particle > sizes small enough to be effective, and to be > able > to reach the blood stream. > > This is a known fact, not a theory. I can give you references to at least > a > dozen other papers that verify this, if I want to go dig them out. > > As far as changing the water, this is VERY believable. Water with more > dissolved salts in it produces bigger particles, and thus will give a gold > color. > > Marshall > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your
Re: CS> Boiling water
You might be able to find one. Problem is the calibration. The instrument will give you the absorption spectrum down to about 190 nm WAVELENGTH, and you have to figure out what that responds to in nm of particle size. Marshall James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: > Hi Marshall, and all, > > Do you know if the scanning photospectrometer will read down to about 1 > nm? Is there a used market for the things, and about how much do they > cost? This sounds like a possible low-cost alternative to electron > microscopy for verifying production particle size. > > Thanks, > James Osbourne, Holmes > > a...@trail.com > > -Original Message- > From: Marshall Dudley [SMTP:mdud...@execonn.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 12:45 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject:Re: CS> Boiling water > > Reid Smith wrote: > > > >Charles Marcus wrote: > > >Until someone gives (a) specific reason(s) for it being > > >Hot means higher energy. Higher energy means more Browning movement. > More > > >Browning movement means higher likelyhood of overcoming the mutual > repulsion > > >of the charge between particles. When particles bang together the > aggregate, > > >thus producing bigger particles. > > >This would likely produce a gold colored colloid instead of a clear > colloid, > > >which would confirm that the particles are larger. Smaller is better. > > >Marshall > > > >Where did you get the idea that a gold colored CS is a sign of > > larger particals? I find that VERY hard to believe. The reason I say > > that is I made CS for some time and never once got a gold color until > > I changed the type of distilled water that I was using. EVERY thing > > was exactly the same except the water. > > It is not an idea, it is a well known fact. Check any textbook on > colloidal > chemistry. I have given this information several times before on this > list. > This is documented in many scientific journals and papers. AT > http://silver-lightning.com/research2.html we have the following paragraph: > > The absorption band of silver colloids > increases in > wavelength as the size of the particles > increase. This allows a qualitative > measurement on > the particle sizes in a colloid by use of > a scanning photospectrometer. Ionic silver has > an > absorption band in the UV range and > thus is virtually clear. As more atoms > aggregate > into a particle, the absorption band > moves from the UV into the violet, blue, > green, > yellow, orange and red. Since, the color of > a substance is the complement of the color > absorbed > colloidal silver will go from clear to > very light yellow, gold, orange, red, blue and > green. (Collloidal Chemistry p 65). Colloids that contain a > broad range of sizes can absorb wavelengths > across > the spectrum resulting in brown and > black. It is generally accepted that only > clear to > light gold silver colloids have particle > sizes small enough to be effective, and to be > able > to reach the blood stream. > > This is a known fact, not a theory. I can give you references to at least > a > dozen other papers that verify this, if I want to go dig them out. > > As far as changing the water, this is VERY believable. Water with more > dissolved salts in it produces bigger particles, and thus will give a gold > color. > > Marshall > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS> Boiling water
Hi Marshall, and all, Do you know if the scanning photospectrometer will read down to about 1 nm? Is there a used market for the things, and about how much do they cost? This sounds like a possible low-cost alternative to electron microscopy for verifying production particle size. Thanks, James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [SMTP:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 12:45 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CS> Boiling water Reid Smith wrote: > >Charles Marcus wrote: > >Until someone gives (a) specific reason(s) for it being > >Hot means higher energy. Higher energy means more Browning movement. More > >Browning movement means higher likelyhood of overcoming the mutual repulsion > >of the charge between particles. When particles bang together the aggregate, > >thus producing bigger particles. > >This would likely produce a gold colored colloid instead of a clear colloid, > >which would confirm that the particles are larger. Smaller is better. > >Marshall > >Where did you get the idea that a gold colored CS is a sign of > larger particals? I find that VERY hard to believe. The reason I say > that is I made CS for some time and never once got a gold color until > I changed the type of distilled water that I was using. EVERY thing > was exactly the same except the water. It is not an idea, it is a well known fact. Check any textbook on colloidal chemistry. I have given this information several times before on this list. This is documented in many scientific journals and papers. AT http://silver-lightning.com/research2.html we have the following paragraph: The absorption band of silver colloids increases in wavelength as the size of the particles increase. This allows a qualitative measurement on the particle sizes in a colloid by use of a scanning photospectrometer. Ionic silver has an absorption band in the UV range and thus is virtually clear. As more atoms aggregate into a particle, the absorption band moves from the UV into the violet, blue, green, yellow, orange and red. Since, the color of a substance is the complement of the color absorbed colloidal silver will go from clear to very light yellow, gold, orange, red, blue and green. (Collloidal Chemistry p 65). Colloids that contain a broad range of sizes can absorb wavelengths across the spectrum resulting in brown and black. It is generally accepted that only clear to light gold silver colloids have particle sizes small enough to be effective, and to be able to reach the blood stream. This is a known fact, not a theory. I can give you references to at least a dozen other papers that verify this, if I want to go dig them out. As far as changing the water, this is VERY believable. Water with more dissolved salts in it produces bigger particles, and thus will give a gold color. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> Boiling water
>Actually, changing the water supply is a very likely way to change particle >size, >depending on your setup. I throw away about half of the water I buy because it >does not past the test. Too high a microsiemens reading and I will make very >large particle cs. > >Jim Hello Jim; At risk of sounding stupid, how do you measure microsiemens? What is the range or target that you use? Do you measure the microsiemens after you have made the cs, and if so, what range do you like to see? Learning all I can, lots to learn! Thanks for any help you can pass on. Earle Bonner Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://my.lycos.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> Boiling water
"It is generally accepted that only clear to light gold silver colloids have particle sizes small enough to be effective, and to be able to reach the blood stream." So you *can* use the light gold, yes? I just made some CS leaving it about 60 minutes or so and after it settled and I strained it, it was a pale gold. As long as it stays that color it's ok? P. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> Boiling water
Reid Smith wrote: >Where did you get the idea that a gold colored CS is a sign of > larger particals? I find that VERY hard to believe. The reason I say > that is I made CS for some time and never once got a gold color until > I changed the type of distilled water that I was using. EVERY thing > was exactly the same except the water. > > Take Care > Reid > Actually, changing the water supply is a very likely way to change particle size, depending on your setup. I throw away about half of the water I buy because it does not past the test. Too high a microsiemens reading and I will make very large particle cs. Jim > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> Boiling water
Reid Smith wrote: > >Charles Marcus wrote: > >Until someone gives (a) specific reason(s) for it being > >Hot means higher energy. Higher energy means more Browning movement. More > >Browning movement means higher likelyhood of overcoming the mutual repulsion > >of the charge between particles. When particles bang together the aggregate, > >thus producing bigger particles. > >This would likely produce a gold colored colloid instead of a clear colloid, > >which would confirm that the particles are larger. Smaller is better. > >Marshall > >Where did you get the idea that a gold colored CS is a sign of > larger particals? I find that VERY hard to believe. The reason I say > that is I made CS for some time and never once got a gold color until > I changed the type of distilled water that I was using. EVERY thing > was exactly the same except the water. It is not an idea, it is a well known fact. Check any textbook on colloidal chemistry. I have given this information several times before on this list. This is documented in many scientific journals and papers. AT http://silver-lightning.com/research2.html we have the following paragraph: The absorption band of silver colloids increases in wavelength as the size of the particles increase. This allows a qualitative measurement on the particle sizes in a colloid by use of a scanning photospectrometer. Ionic silver has an absorption band in the UV range and thus is virtually clear. As more atoms aggregate into a particle, the absorption band moves from the UV into the violet, blue, green, yellow, orange and red. Since, the color of a substance is the complement of the color absorbed colloidal silver will go from clear to very light yellow, gold, orange, red, blue and green. (Collloidal Chemistry p 65). Colloids that contain a broad range of sizes can absorb wavelengths across the spectrum resulting in brown and black. It is generally accepted that only clear to light gold silver colloids have particle sizes small enough to be effective, and to be able to reach the blood stream. This is a known fact, not a theory. I can give you references to at least a dozen other papers that verify this, if I want to go dig them out. As far as changing the water, this is VERY believable. Water with more dissolved salts in it produces bigger particles, and thus will give a gold color. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> Boiling water
>Charles Marcus wrote: >Until someone gives (a) specific reason(s) for it being >Hot means higher energy. Higher energy means more Browning movement. More >Browning movement means higher likelyhood of overcoming the mutual repulsion >of the charge between particles. When particles bang together the aggregate, >thus producing bigger particles. >This would likely produce a gold colored colloid instead of a clear colloid, >which would confirm that the particles are larger. Smaller is better. >Marshall Where did you get the idea that a gold colored CS is a sign of larger particals? I find that VERY hard to believe. The reason I say that is I made CS for some time and never once got a gold color until I changed the type of distilled water that I was using. EVERY thing was exactly the same except the water. Take Care Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> Boiling water
Charles Marcus wrote: Until someone gives (a) specific reason(s) for it being Hot means higher energy. Higher energy means more Browning movement. More Browning movement means higher likelyhood of overcoming the mutual repulsion of the charge between particles. When particles bang together the aggregate, thus producing bigger particles. This would likely produce a gold colored colloid instead of a clear colloid, which would confirm that the particles are larger. Smaller is better. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> Boiling water
> > That is not my understanding at all. > > Well, this is the precise reason given by Dr Beck in > his paper. It is supposed to be a way of increasing the > conductivity of the water without adding salt to thee > water. It has nothing to do with 'purifying' the water, > as he recommends doing this with distilled water also. The starting current of water heated to boiling point, in my experience, will be about four times that of room temperature water. The time to generate 10ppm is about three fourths of that taken by room temp. water. > > Are we talking about heating the water and using hot water, > > or boiling the water to remove dissolved gases then letting > > it cool down before using it? The first should be a no-no, > > Until someone gives (a) specific reason(s) for it being > 'a no-no', it is totally irrelevant to even say it. I have had no problems with CS generated using hot water, heated in the microwave oven (about all I use it for these days), apart from creating a slightly larger particle size. > > and the second one makes a lot of sense, expecially if one is > > getting variable results from different bottles of distilled > > water. > > > > Marshall > > Anyone who buys bottles of distilled water is wasting > their money, imho. If you want to buy it, at least get > it from one of the commercial dispensers that monitor > the quality of the water and the equipment making it, > like Culligan Water (formerly Harmony Brook). Distilled > water leaches chemicals out of plastic bottles, and > should never be stored in plastic except for very > short periods of time...which is why I use glass for my > water. > > -- > > Charles Marcus Distilled water has a shelf life of about six months when stored in the appropriate plastic container. This shelf life is for unopened containers. I have found that d. water that is stored in a partly used, ie half water half air, is unuseable for my purposes in a month. Probably absorbed CO2 etc. I use Purified Water B.P. (British Pharmacopea standard) as manufactured by McGaw BioMed and as recomended to me by my microbiologist. This is the water used in manufacturing pharmaceuticals for IV use. Measures about 30K Ohms (E=IR). Ivan. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> Boiling water
> That is not my understanding at all. Well, this is the precise reason given by Dr Beck in his paper. It is supposed to be a way of increasing the conductivity of the water without adding salt to thee water. It has nothing to do with 'purifying' the water, as he recommends doing this with distilled water also. > Are we talking about heating the water and using hot water, > or boiling the water to remove dissolved gases then letting > it cool down before using it? The first should be a no-no, Until someone gives (a) specific reason(s) for it being 'a no-no', it is totally irrelevant to even say it. > and the second one makes a lot of sense, expecially if one is > getting variable results from different bottles of distilled > water. > > Marshall Anyone who buys bottles of distilled water is wasting their money, imho. If you want to buy it, at least get it from one of the commercial dispensers that monitor the quality of the water and the equipment making it, like Culligan Water (formerly Harmony Brook). Distilled water leaches chemicals out of plastic bottles, and should never be stored in plastic except for very short periods of time...which is why I use glass for my water. -- Charles Marcus -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> Boiling water
That is not my understanding at all. My understanding is that you boil the water to remove the dissolved gases, such as carbon dioxide, which will make the water acid and too conductive, to purify it. After boiling it, you let it cool back to room temperature before using it. Otherwise one would just speak of heating the water, not boiling it. Are we talking about heating the water and using hot water, or boiling the water to remove dissolved gases then letting it cool down before using it? The first should be a no-no, and the second one makes a lot of sense, expecially if one is getting variable results from different bottles of distilled water. Marshall Charles Marcus wrote: > My understanding is that the ONLY reason for the > suggestion to boil the water was so that the water > would be extremely hot when the CS was being made, > which decreases the surface tension of the water (it > does, this is why hot water cleans better than cold), > which SUPPOSEDLY enable you to make a higher > concentration of CS in the same amount of tim. It has > been likened to increasing the electrical conductivity > by adding a pinch of saline solution or mineral water > to the distilled. > > I am not claiming this as being true, just trying to > clear the air...I have seen a few people appear to get > very excited and adamant about NOT boiling the water, > as if there were something sinister or dangerous about > it. > > -- > > Charles Marcus -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> Boiling water
>My understanding is that the ONLY reason for the >suggestion to boil the water was so that the water >would be extremely hot when the CS was being made, >which decreases the surface tension of the water (it >does, this is why hot water cleans better than cold), >which SUPPOSEDLY enable you to make a higher >concentration of CS in the same amount of tim. It has >been likened to increasing the electrical conductivity >by adding a pinch of saline solution or mineral water >to the distilled. >I am not claiming this as being true, just trying to >clear the air...I have seen a few people appear to get >very excited and adamant about NOT boiling the water, >as if there were something sinister or dangerous about >it. >Charles Marcus Boiling water is increasing the movements of molecules. The extra movement, in a sense, is stirring the water. Take Care Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> Boiling water
Charles; If boiling makes you happy fine, but do not assign allot of benefits to it. Real or imgined. The purpose of poiling is to remove adsorbed gases. If you are working with an open cup the chnces are that you CS is picking up the CO2 and air that you tried to get rid of. I you have a current meter I would suggest that you you note the initial current for both cold and hot water. record the data about every5 minutes until you wish to terminate the run. terminate at the same current and note the time for each run. Next have a sample of each checked by a lab for ppm.Then you can you can make a definite statement as to the effects of boiling. Vacuum boiling at 70 deg.F. reduces the initial current about 2% (I it sometimes) Robert -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> Boiling water
What is the hurry? Why do people need to make CS fast? I just put on a batch of not heated distilled water at 15 volts current limited to 1 ma. Wait 4 hours wipe the electrodes clean then wait another 4 hours. Makes fine CS. Michael Charles Marcus wrote: > > My understanding is that the ONLY reason for the > suggestion to boil the water was so that the water > would be extremely hot when the CS was being made, > which decreases the surface tension of the water (it > does, this is why hot water cleans better than cold), > which SUPPOSEDLY enable you to make a higher > concentration of CS in the same amount of tim. It has > been likened to increasing the electrical conductivity > by adding a pinch of saline solution or mineral water > to the distilled. > > I am not claiming this as being true, just trying to > clear the air...I have seen a few people appear to get > very excited and adamant about NOT boiling the water, > as if there were something sinister or dangerous about > it. > > -- > > Charles Marcus -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> Boiling water
My understanding is that the ONLY reason for the suggestion to boil the water was so that the water would be extremely hot when the CS was being made, which decreases the surface tension of the water (it does, this is why hot water cleans better than cold), which SUPPOSEDLY enable you to make a higher concentration of CS in the same amount of tim. It has been likened to increasing the electrical conductivity by adding a pinch of saline solution or mineral water to the distilled. I am not claiming this as being true, just trying to clear the air...I have seen a few people appear to get very excited and adamant about NOT boiling the water, as if there were something sinister or dangerous about it. -- Charles Marcus
