Re: CS for Fibromyalgia?
In a message dated 7/20/00 4:48:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, writety...@aol.com writes: << Subj: Re: CS for Fibromyalgia? Date: 7/20/00 4:48:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: writety...@aol.com Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com The battlefields in the Gulf War are now covered with literally TONS AND TONS of radioactive bullets that were used. Any possible correlation to health problems vets have had? Frank >> Yes -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS for Fibromyalgia/depleted uranium
Hi Marshall, On Fri, 21 Jul 2000 13:37:50 -0400, Marshall Dudley wrote: >samma...@aol.com wrote: >> DU weapons are not conventional weapons. They are highly toxic, radioactive >> weapons. All international law on warfare has attempted to limit violence to >> combatants and to prevent the use of cruel and unfocused weapons. >> International agreements and conventions have tried to protect civilians and >> non-combatants from the scourge of war and to outlaw the destruction of the >> environment and the food supply in order to safeguard life on earth. > >I have checked and I admit I was wrong. It is not as radioactive as the >potassium >40 in a banana (about 1/4 as much), but it is a long half life heavy metal. >U238 >is an alpha. beta and X-Ray emitter. The "scare" site is wrong, you (Marshall) are correct. This is what http://www.stats.org/newsletters/9803/du.htm says: Depleted Understanding "A new study today suggests that as many as 400,000 American troops may have been exposed to particles of something called depleted uranium during the Gulf War. It is a nonradioactive metal used to make shells and bombs, and exposure to large amounts of it can cause kidney problems." -- Peter Jennings, ABC World News Tonight, March 2, 1998 "The report estimates that three out of four American troops in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia during and just after the Gulf War may have been exposed to depleted uranium. ... Allied troops frequently inspected and climbed on Iraqi tanks that had been hit with the radioactive depleted uranium shells." -- Brian Cabell, CNN The World Today, March 2, 1998 Does it glow or doesn't it? Ever since depleted uranium (DU) shells and armor plating made their live combat debut during the Gulf War in 1991, they seem to have baffled journalists. Now that DU has been implicated as a possible suspect in the debate over Gulf War Syndrome, its properties and characteristics have generated even more attention -- and confusion. When U-235 (the highly fissionable isotope used to make bombs) is extracted from uranium ore, the remaining byproduct is U-238, uranium that has been "depleted" of its powerfully radioactive component. Because uranium is extremely dense (significantly more so than lead) it is useful in military roles, both as armor, and as a munition to penetrate armor. Here's where the misunderstanding starts. News accounts of "uranium-tipped" shells "burning through" tank armor give the impression that radioactivity gives the DU shells their punch. Not so. Because of its density, DU packs more mass into the same amount of space, thus minimizing air resistance and delivering more kinetic energy, for the same reason a bullet made of lead has greater impact than, for instance, one made of tin. It's not a different kind of ammunition (as an atomic bomb differs in kind from a conventional one), it's just a more effective one. The Defense Department has gone to great lengths to emphasize that these weapons involve traditional kinetic energy, as opposed to any sort of nuclear or radiological energy. This is the interpretation that Peter Jennings seems to have accepted, although it is not entirely accurate. In fact, DU is still radioactive. U-238 is itself radioactive and, even in its depleted state, contains minute traces of the highly fissionable U-235 isotope. Thousands of military personnel were "exposed to" radioactive DU during the Gulf War, while handling shells, riding in tanks, etc. Fortunately, the radioactivity is so faint that mere exposure to it poses little discernible health risk to humans. The material is still radioactive but, when manufactured into armor and anti-tank shells, not dangerously so. Unfortunately, war is not neat, and this leads to an additional issue that remains still scientifically unsettled. When DU shells explode into enemy armor, and also when they penetrate DU armor in "friendly fire" incidents (which happened on at least one disastrous occasion during the Gulf War), a quantity of the DU burns and oxidizes into minute particles. These particles create an airborne dust that can be inhaled or ingested. In addition to the danger posed by the slight residual radioactivity (i.e., particles lodging in the lungs could eventually lead to cancer), uranium as a heavy metal is quite toxic, and can lead to kidney failure and other health problems. Of course, lead, tungsten and other metals used in armor and armaments are also rather unhealthy to ingest, and they are a major source of wartime health effects. In sum, coverage of the health effects of depleted uranium must distinguish among three sets of health risks. Yes, DU is radioactive, but it is not a "nuclear" or "radiological" weapon. No, it is not particularly dangerous in its standard military form; merely being in proximity to DU-armored tanks is unlikely to harm anyone. But exposure to the airborne dust resulting from its use in combat can b
Re: CS for Fibromyalgia/depleted uranium
samma...@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 7/20/00 8:10:16 PM Central Daylight Time, > mdud...@execonn.com writes: > > << They were made from depleated uranium. It is about as radioactive as lead. > A banana has more activity. > > Marshall > >> > > http://www.iacenter.org/depleted/appeal.htm > > exerpt > > Communities near DU weapons plants, testing facilities, bases and arsenals > have also been exposed to this radioactive material which has a half-life of > 4.4 billion years. DU-weapons are deployed with U.S. troops in Bosnia. The > spreading toxicity of depleted uranium threatens life everywhere. > > DU weapons are not conventional weapons. They are highly toxic, radioactive > weapons. All international law on warfare has attempted to limit violence to > combatants and to prevent the use of cruel and unfocused weapons. > International agreements and conventions have tried to protect civilians and > non-combatants from the scourge of war and to outlaw the destruction of the > environment and the food supply in order to safeguard life on earth. I have checked and I admit I was wrong. It is not as radioactive as the potassium 40 in a banana (about 1/4 as much), but it is a long half life heavy metal. U238 is an alpha. beta and X-Ray emitter. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS for Fibromyalgia/depleted uranium
In a message dated 7/20/00 8:10:16 PM Central Daylight Time, mdud...@execonn.com writes: << They were made from depleated uranium. It is about as radioactive as lead. A banana has more activity. Marshall >> http://www.iacenter.org/depleted/appeal.htm exerpt Communities near DU weapons plants, testing facilities, bases and arsenals have also been exposed to this radioactive material which has a half-life of 4.4 billion years. DU-weapons are deployed with U.S. troops in Bosnia. The spreading toxicity of depleted uranium threatens life everywhere. DU weapons are not conventional weapons. They are highly toxic, radioactive weapons. All international law on warfare has attempted to limit violence to combatants and to prevent the use of cruel and unfocused weapons. International agreements and conventions have tried to protect civilians and non-combatants from the scourge of war and to outlaw the destruction of the environment and the food supply in order to safeguard life on earth. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS for Fibromyalgia?
They were made from depleated uranium. It is about as radioactive as lead. A banana has more activity. Marshall writety...@aol.com wrote: > The battlefields in the Gulf War are now covered with literally > TONS AND TONS of radioactive bullets that were used. Any > possible correlation to health problems vets have had? > > Frank > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS for Fibromyalgia?
The battlefields in the Gulf War are now covered with literally TONS AND TONS of radioactive bullets that were used. Any possible correlation to health problems vets have had? Frank -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS for Fibromyalgia?
Also evidence that Gulf war Illness is due to a mycoplasma infection... rob From: Marshall Dudley Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS for Fibromyalgia? Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 11:18:37 -0400 Why don't you inform him the Gulf War Illness is plain old aspertame poisoning, and save him a year of searching? Marshall Quiksassy wrote: > I have fibromylgia and the chronic fatigue with it. I recently > started taking MSM and I feel so much better. I have alot more > energy. I am on a medication "wellbutrin" which helps with the pain > and has let me get some rest. I have read that it is the lack of > being able to get deep sleep which causes alot of problems associated > with fibromylgia. I am a patient with one of the leading doctors in > the country at Georgetown Hospital. He is taking a leave for a year > to research the gulf war illnesses. One of the problems is that many > people have developed fibromylgia. Good luck > > - Original Message - > From: Janet Lubart > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 2:36 AM > Subject: Re: CS for Fibromyalgia? > I have seen incredible results with a friend of mine > following this program for 6 months or more. This MD. is > against herbs and any other form of salycilates. > www.guaidoc.com > > -Original Message- > From: Steve Young > To: Silver List > Date: Thursday, July 13, 2000 8:59 PM > Subject: CS for Fibromyalgia? >Perhaps this is a bit off topic. My wife suffers > from fibromyalgia and has not found much to > relieve the pain except deep muscle massage. > Since it is allegedly a connective tissue problem, > I don't see how CS would have much positive > effect. She takes CS when she has a cold or flu, > etc., but not regularly to try to deal with the > fibromyalgia. Anyone have experience getting > relief using CS? So, since many of you have wide > ranging experience with other cures, any > suggestions on methods to reduce or cure the > effects of fibromyalgia would be greatly > appreciated. Thanks,--Steve > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS for Fibromyalgia?
ritz3...@aol.com wrote: > I think the ONLY thing that the government is telling the truth about > regarding GWS is that there is no single cause. The aspartame I am sure can > cause problems but it does not explain transmission to family members and > pets. See www.gulfwarvets.com. Actually if they got hooked on the diet Pepsi, and then kept buying and drinking it at home, the other members of the family could easily start drinking the same poison, and catch the same disease. It would not be transmission by the traditional sense, but it would appear as such. Of course pets are not likely. I can see that they might have several different diseases lumped together into one catagory, in which aspertame poisoning is one of them. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS for Fibromyalgia?
In a message dated 7/19/00 9:17:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mdud...@execonn.com writes: << Subj: Re: CS for Fibromyalgia? Date: 7/19/00 9:17:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time From: mdud...@execonn.com (Marshall Dudley) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Check http://dorway.com/ for information on aspertame poisoning. I know that I saw a comparison of the known symptoms of aspertame poisoning and Gulf War syndrome, and the list was identical from end to end. Fact is that Coke sent loads of diet drinks over there, and they sat in the sun for weeks making methyl alcohol, before being drunk by the thousands. It was completely predictable, and since the symptoms completely match, almost for certain that is the cause. I will try to find that reference. Marshall Katie Jay wrote: > Hi Marshall, I was told my mycoplasma infection was the cause of my > "Gulf War Syndrome". Do you have any further information about > aspertame being the culprit? Thanks,Katie >> I think the ONLY thing that the government is telling the truth about regarding GWS is that there is no single cause. The aspartame I am sure can cause problems but it does not explain transmission to family members and pets. See www.gulfwarvets.com. Christy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS for Fibromyalgia?
HI There, I was wondering what the dose is you are taking of MSM. Thanks, Christy In a message dated 7/18/00 8:52:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time, quiksa...@home.com writes: << Subj: Re: CS for Fibromyalgia? Date: 7/18/00 8:52:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: quiksa...@home.com (Quiksassy) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com I have fibromylgia and the chronic fatigue with it. I recently started taking MSM and I feel so much better. I have alot more energy. I am on a medication "wellbutrin" which helps with the pain and has let me get some rest. I have read that it is the lack of being able to get deep sleep which causes alot of problems associated with fibromylgia. I am a patient with one of the leading doctors in the country at Georgetown Hospital. He is taking a leave for a year to research the gulf war illnesses. One of the problems is that many people have developed fibromylgia. Good luck >> -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS for Fibromyalgia?
I read something about that. What was the cause of the aspertame poisoning?
Was it the heat?
- Original Message -
From: Marshall Dudley
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: CS for Fibromyalgia?
Why don't you inform him the Gulf War Illness is plain old aspertame
poisoning, and save him a year of searching?
Marshall
Quiksassy wrote:
I have fibromylgia and the chronic fatigue with it. I recently started
taking MSM and I feel so much better. I have alot more energy. I am on a
medication "wellbutrin" which helps with the pain and has let me get some rest.
I have read that it is the lack of being able to get deep sleep which causes
alot of problems associated with fibromylgia. I am a patient with one of the
leading doctors in the country at Georgetown Hospital. He is taking a leave
for a year to research the gulf war illnesses. One of the problems is that
many people have developed fibromylgia. Good luck
- Original Message -
From: Janet Lubart
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 2:36 AM
Subject: Re: CS for Fibromyalgia?
I have seen incredible results with a friend of mine following this
program for 6 months or more. This MD. is against herbs and any other form of
salycilates. www.guaidoc.com
-Original Message-
From: Steve Young
To: Silver List
Date: Thursday, July 13, 2000 8:59 PM
Subject: CS for Fibromyalgia?
Perhaps this is a bit off topic. My wife suffers from fibromyalgia
and has not found much to relieve the pain except deep muscle massage. Since
it is allegedly a connective tissue problem, I don't see how CS would have much
positive effect. She takes CS when she has a cold or flu, etc., but not
regularly to try to deal with the fibromyalgia. Anyone have experience getting
relief using CS? So, since many of you have wide ranging experience with other
cures, any suggestions on methods to reduce or cure the effects of fibromyalgia
would be greatly appreciated. Thanks,--Steve
RE: CS for Fibromyalgia?
Marshall, Aspartame converts to formaldehyde at temperatures above 86 degrees Fahrenheit, so if Gulf War Syndrome is caused by aspartame poisoning, it would parallel formaldehyde poisoning. At cooler temperatures, it metabolizes as 10 percent methyl alcohol, or methanol, which is also quite toxic -- the source of the common complaints of headache and memory loss -- good ol' fashioned wood alcohol. This much you can learn right on Monsanto's own web site. Sam > > Check http://dorway.com/ for information on aspertame poisoning. > > I know that I saw a comparison of the known symptoms of aspertame > poisoning and Gulf War syndrome, and the list was identical from end to > end. Fact is that Coke sent loads of diet drinks over there, and they > sat in the sun for weeks making methyl alcohol, before being drunk by > the thousands. It was completely predictable, and since the symptoms > completely match, almost for certain that is the cause. > > I will try to find that reference. > > Marshall > > Katie Jay wrote: > > > Hi Marshall, I was told my mycoplasma infection was the cause of my > > "Gulf War Syndrome". Do you have any further information about > > aspertame being the culprit? Thanks,Katie >** - End Original Message --- ** > Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS for Fibromyalgia?
Hi All, Sept of last year I quit using aspartame. I had been using up to 30 packets a day for 10 years or more. My symptoms were: depression, crying jags, raging, tinnitus, vertigo, leg pains which I thought were diabetic neuropathy, blood sugar totally out of control, headaches, equilibrium problems to the point of falling down several times a day, and severe muscle atrophy. I did this entirely on my own because all my "friends" and "professionals" said I was crazy. Well, I was crazy all right, but not the way they thought. Now, ten months later, all symptoms are gone or 90% gone. I still have diabetes and the accompanying problems but I`m totally not depressed, etc. There, a first-hand account of a real person who had it, quit it, and got better! Hugh
Re: CS for Fibromyalgia?
Thanks, Marshall. Very interesting. I do not consume tons of diet soda, but some. I'm ready to stop though. I really prefer water with lemon. I think I will try the hair stuff. I buy expensive shampoo already, it's not a big increase in cost for me. I'll let you know how well it works. Take care, Katie
Re: CS for Fibromyalgia?
Here are some more: http://www.dorway.com/guilford.html http://www.dorway.com/kilrkola.txt http://www.dorway.com/betty/deserts.txt http://www.dorway.com/nohoax.txt http://www.dorway.com/nohelp.html http://www.dorway.com/mpflyer.html http://www.dorway.com/guided.html http://www.vitawise.com/gulfwar.htm Use the find command to find "gulf" in some of these if you don't find the part about gulf war immediately. Marshall Katie Jay wrote: > Hi Marshall, I was told my mycoplasma infection was the cause of my > "Gulf War Syndrome". Do you have any further information about > aspertame being the culprit? Thanks,Katie
Re: CS for Fibromyalgia?
OK, I found the reference I had in my mailbox. It follows in total the following confirming links: http://members.tripod.com/~aspartame/gulfwar.htm The major soft drink companies shipped free Diet Drinks (Businessweek, Dec.'90) to our Desert Storm troops, where they broke down in storage into highly toxic substances. The symptoms reported by the sufferers of "Gulf War Syndrome" mimic the ones of those reporting problems associated with Aspartame use here ... but, the military personnel symptoms are greater because they were drinking/eating "expired Diet Pepsi and then some!" Since Aspartame is capable of changing the DNA (in lab tests), birth defects in offspring can be readily addressed. Family members are also experiencing illness, possibly from their continued use of these products. What is the real reason behind Gulf War Syndrome? Based on volumes of available research, we believe it was what they were eating and drinking in extreme desert heat. http://www.glinx.com/~tonym/nutras~1.htm Some charge that aspartame may even the villain behind Gulf War Syndrome, a cluster of illnesses and behaviors which still have eluded manym epidemiological investigators and physicians. http://www.cybernaute.com/earthconcert2000/FeedbksAspartame.htm They say that the GULF WAR SYNDROME is in part being traced to Aspertame in DIET PEPSI... apparently Pepsi gave thousands of cases of Diet Pepsi to the military for the troops in the Gulf War.. these sat outside in 100+ degree temperatures which was the problem, when Aspartame reaches a certain temperature it converts to Formaldhyde and Methenol so when the troops drank Pepsi they were injesting these two by-products and we all know what they use Formaldhyde and Methenol for.. This can be verified by the fact that very few troops on the front lines got sick, it was almost entirely the support troops, the ones who had access to the diet soft drinks who got sick.. http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/Forum1/HTML/005067.html Because military participants in the Gulf War were rehydrating with Diet Drinks furnished free by the soft drink companies, it is likely that Desert Storm Syndrome may simply be serious reactions to Aspartame. In desert heat the breakdown products reach toxic proportions much more quickly ... leaving a virtual witches brew in place of the original chemical sweetener. Marshall Subject: Aspartame Disease...one of many world plagues... Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:30:35 EST From: planetn...@aol.com To: undisclosed-recipients:; Pharm. & Upjohn: Congratulations! Since Aspartame Disease, a world plague, probably destined to be one of the largest epidemics in world history, is suffered by so many consumers in 100 countries, I was wondering how Monsanto would ever pay the victims. As one attorney said: "Tobacco will pale against aspartame"! Aspartame marketed by Monsanto (NutraSweet/ Equal/Spoonful) is a deadly neurotoxin. According to Alex Constantine in NutraPoison (www.dorway.com) aspartame was once listed with the pentagon in an inventory of prospective biochemical warfare weapons submitted to Congress. At 86 degrees it breaks down to a witches brew of toxins. That's way diet pop sitting on pallets in the 120 degree Arabian sun during the Gulf War caused so much havoc. The troops were drinking formaldehyde cocktails and its no wonder the symptoms of Desert Storm Syndrome are identical to the FDA report of 92 symptoms from four types of seizures to coma and death. Aspartame also triggers birth defects even when a man uses it at the time of conception according to Dr. Roberts report on aspartame and pregancy (www.dorway.com) so no wonder their wives gave birth to babies with birth defects. Handsome soldier, clear of eye Got to the Gulf, and drink and die And fight to keep our profits high After we've taken your fine young life We'll kill your baby and blind your wife In l986 the Community Nutrition Institute petitioned the FDA to ban aspartame because so many were going blind but the FDA wouldn't hear of it. They really care for Monsanto, and that's why I always call the FDA, Monsanto's Washington Branch Office. Of course, people are still going blind. Wish Monsanto cared but aspartame remains on the market today for the same reasons as tobacco - addiction, profit and greed! Incidently, do check out the Trocho study which you will see on the web page www.dorway.com/nomarkle.html Notice it shows the formaldehyde accumulates in the cells and damages DNA with 50% toxicity in the liver, and substantial amounts in the kidneys, adipose tissue, retina and brain. Makes it cheaper on the family of aspartame victims - they don't have to pay for embalming. Of course, the embalming may be what killed them. But then again aspartame triggers blindness, fibromyalgia, Alzheimers, MS symptoms, Parkinson's, drug interaction, an irregular heart rhythm, etc. It destroys the brain, central nervous system, optic nerve, immune
Re: CS for Fibromyalgia?
Check http://dorway.com/ for information on aspertame poisoning. I know that I saw a comparison of the known symptoms of aspertame poisoning and Gulf War syndrome, and the list was identical from end to end. Fact is that Coke sent loads of diet drinks over there, and they sat in the sun for weeks making methyl alcohol, before being drunk by the thousands. It was completely predictable, and since the symptoms completely match, almost for certain that is the cause. I will try to find that reference. Marshall Katie Jay wrote: > Hi Marshall, I was told my mycoplasma infection was the cause of my > "Gulf War Syndrome". Do you have any further information about > aspertame being the culprit? Thanks,Katie
Re: CS for Fibromyalgia?
Hi Marshall, I was told my mycoplasma infection was the cause of my "Gulf War Syndrome". Do you have any further information about aspertame being the culprit? Thanks, Katie
Re: CS for Fibromyalgia?
Why don't you inform him the Gulf War Illness is plain old aspertame poisoning, and save him a year of searching? Marshall Quiksassy wrote: > I have fibromylgia and the chronic fatigue with it. I recently > started taking MSM and I feel so much better. I have alot more > energy. I am on a medication "wellbutrin" which helps with the pain > and has let me get some rest. I have read that it is the lack of > being able to get deep sleep which causes alot of problems associated > with fibromylgia. I am a patient with one of the leading doctors in > the country at Georgetown Hospital. He is taking a leave for a year > to research the gulf war illnesses. One of the problems is that many > people have developed fibromylgia. Good luck > > - Original Message - > From: Janet Lubart > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 2:36 AM > Subject: Re: CS for Fibromyalgia? > I have seen incredible results with a friend of mine > following this program for 6 months or more. This MD. is > against herbs and any other form of salycilates. > www.guaidoc.com > > -Original Message- > From: Steve Young > To: Silver List > Date: Thursday, July 13, 2000 8:59 PM > Subject: CS for Fibromyalgia? >Perhaps this is a bit off topic. My wife suffers > from fibromyalgia and has not found much to > relieve the pain except deep muscle massage. > Since it is allegedly a connective tissue problem, > I don't see how CS would have much positive > effect. She takes CS when she has a cold or flu, > etc., but not regularly to try to deal with the > fibromyalgia. Anyone have experience getting > relief using CS? So, since many of you have wide > ranging experience with other cures, any > suggestions on methods to reduce or cure the > effects of fibromyalgia would be greatly > appreciated. Thanks,--Steve >
Re: CS for Fibromyalgia?
I had fibromyalgia for a few years. My internist put me on trazodone which helped me sleep and that helped quite a bit with the pain. But the real help came when my allergist M.D. put me on the zone diet. I am not on the zone diet now but I have eliminated all hydrogenated vegetable oils and hydrogenated fats from my diet. I no longer have fibromyalgia or any hint of it. While fibromyalgia is probably a complex dis-ease, I believe that one factor in the cause of it is trans fatty acids in my diet. These fatty acids are found in hydrogenated and partially hydrogenated fats found in almost all processed foods. If I had fibromyalgia I would try eliminating these trans fats from my diet in addition to whatever the doctor says to do, just to see if it makes a difference. I would give it a 2 or 3 week trial. When I tried this I had less pain and more energy in about a week. It may be difficult to eliminate all the processed foods that contain hydrogenated oils. It requires me to read all of the ingredients on the food labels. If it says hydrogenated vegetable oil or partially hydrogenated vegetable oil I will not eat it. Of course, oleomargarine is the biggest offender since it is made of hydrogenated vegetable oil. I find it best to substitute olive oil. Is anyone on this list on a diet free of hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated fats and still has fibromyalgia? Michael -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS for Fibromyalgia?
I have fibromylgia and the chronic fatigue with it. I recently started taking
MSM and I feel so much better. I have alot more energy. I am on a medication
"wellbutrin" which helps with the pain and has let me get some rest. I have
read that it is the lack of being able to get deep sleep which causes alot of
problems associated with fibromylgia. I am a patient with one of the leading
doctors in the country at Georgetown Hospital. He is taking a leave for a year
to research the gulf war illnesses. One of the problems is that many people
have developed fibromylgia. Good luck
- Original Message -
From: Janet Lubart
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 2:36 AM
Subject: Re: CS for Fibromyalgia?
I have seen incredible results with a friend of mine following this program
for 6 months or more. This MD. is against herbs and any other form of
salycilates. www.guaidoc.com
-Original Message-
From: Steve Young
To: Silver List
Date: Thursday, July 13, 2000 8:59 PM
Subject: CS for Fibromyalgia?
Perhaps this is a bit off topic. My wife suffers from fibromyalgia and has
not found much to relieve the pain except deep muscle massage. Since it is
allegedly a connective tissue problem, I don't see how CS would have much
positive effect. She takes CS when she has a cold or flu, etc., but not
regularly to try to deal with the fibromyalgia. Anyone have experience getting
relief using CS?
So, since many of you have wide ranging experience with other cures, any
suggestions on methods to reduce or cure the effects of fibromyalgia would be
greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
--Steve
RE: CS for Fibromyalgia?
Is there possibly a link with Aspartame consumption? James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -Original Message- From: ritz3...@aol.com [SMTP:ritz3...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 9:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CS for Fibromyalgia? "Fibromyalgia" may be actually Mycoplasma fermentans incognitus (www.immed.org, www.gulfwarvets.com) or Lyme so I would give the cs a try. If she wants blood work done first to find out what is causing the "fibromyalgia" she should have her blood drawn prior to testing b/c for example with the M. fermentans incognitus being on antibiotics can cause a false negative. Christy In a message dated 7/13/00 9:01:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, you...@konnections.com writes: << Subj: CS for Fibromyalgia? Date: 7/13/00 9:01:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: you...@konnections.com (Steve Young) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com (Silver List) Perhaps this is a bit off topic. My wife suffers from fibromyalgia and has not found much to relieve the pain except deep muscle massage. Since it is allegedly a connective tissue problem, I don't see how CS would have much positive effect. She takes CS when she has a cold or flu, etc., but not regularly to try to deal with the fibromyalgia. Anyone have experience getting relief using CS? So, since many of you have wide ranging experience with other cures, any suggestions on methods to reduce or cure the effects of fibromyalgia would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, --Steve >> -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS for Fibromyalgia?
"Fibromyalgia" may be actually Mycoplasma fermentans incognitus (www.immed.org, www.gulfwarvets.com) or Lyme so I would give the cs a try. If she wants blood work done first to find out what is causing the "fibromyalgia" she should have her blood drawn prior to testing b/c for example with the M. fermentans incognitus being on antibiotics can cause a false negative. Christy In a message dated 7/13/00 9:01:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, you...@konnections.com writes: << Subj: CS for Fibromyalgia? Date: 7/13/00 9:01:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: you...@konnections.com (Steve Young) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com (Silver List) Perhaps this is a bit off topic. My wife suffers from fibromyalgia and has not found much to relieve the pain except deep muscle massage. Since it is allegedly a connective tissue problem, I don't see how CS would have much positive effect. She takes CS when she has a cold or flu, etc., but not regularly to try to deal with the fibromyalgia. Anyone have experience getting relief using CS? So, since many of you have wide ranging experience with other cures, any suggestions on methods to reduce or cure the effects of fibromyalgia would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, --Steve >> -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS for Fibromyalgia?
I have seen incredible results with a friend of mine following this program for 6 months or more. This MD. is against herbs and any other form of salycilates. www.guaidoc.com -Original Message- From: Steve Young To: Silver List Date: Thursday, July 13, 2000 8:59 PM Subject: CS for Fibromyalgia? Perhaps this is a bit off topic. My wife suffers from fibromyalgia and has not found much to relieve the pain except deep muscle massage. Since it is allegedly a connective tissue problem, I don't see how CS would have much positive effect. She takes CS when she has a cold or flu, etc., but not regularly to try to deal with the fibromyalgia. Anyone have experience getting relief using CS? So, since many of you have wide ranging experience with other cures, any suggestions on methods to reduce or cure the effects of fibromyalgia would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, --Steve
CS for Fibromyalgia?
Perhaps this is a bit off topic. My wife suffers from fibromyalgia and has not found much to relieve the pain except deep muscle massage. Since it is allegedly a connective tissue problem, I don't see how CS would have much positive effect. She takes CS when she has a cold or flu, etc., but not regularly to try to deal with the fibromyalgia. Anyone have experience getting relief using CS? So, since many of you have wide ranging experience with other cures, any suggestions on methods to reduce or cure the effects of fibromyalgia would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, --Steve
