Re: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled?
Hi Nancy, There is a lot of good info on the CS site, and I'd also recommend going to Ken's (Ode Coyote) site at: www.silverpuppy.com to read up on the whole subject. He's as honest as they come, and has a ton of information there. There used to be a lot of info on do-it-yourself CS generators but it's hard to beat the silverpuppy for a good CS generator unless your like to make stuff for yourself. Keep asking, you'll get a lot of good info here. In any case though, read Ken's site first so you know what you're looking for - and getting! The best beginner's education you'll find. HTH, Malcolm On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 19:42 -0400, Nancy Chisholm wrote: I have read several directions on how to make your own generator- but they all slightly differ (bubbling water vs stirring or non-agitating). I just do not know what is the best method. Is there a webpage out there for good directions? - Original Message - From: Scotty To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 7:29 PM Subject: Re: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled? Yes, Nancy, you can make your own nanoparticle silver at home! I used a bridge rectifier (ac to dc) to make my unit and have been making my own silver for the past five years. My setup is crude but very cost effective and efficient. Good luck on your endeavor! Scotty Have a great day! __ From: Nancy Chisholm nchish...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, July 5, 2011 4:11:22 PM Subject: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled? I am new to this website and I would like to start making the very best true nanoparticle colloidal silver for my own use. Can a homemade generator or ready made (ex.- SilverGen) produce nanoparticle sized particles (not just ions). Or, is it best to just purchase the colloidal silver already bottled on the market- ex.-SilverSol or etc? Please help. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled?
Thank you Malcolm. There is a lot of info out therethe only problem is- it is not all consistant ( generators brewing technique). - Original Message - From: Malcolm s...@asis.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 2:18 AM Subject: Re: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled? Hi Nancy, There is a lot of good info on the CS site, and I'd also recommend going to Ken's (Ode Coyote) site at: www.silverpuppy.com to read up on the whole subject. He's as honest as they come, and has a ton of information there. There used to be a lot of info on do-it-yourself CS generators but it's hard to beat the silverpuppy for a good CS generator unless your like to make stuff for yourself. Keep asking, you'll get a lot of good info here. In any case though, read Ken's site first so you know what you're looking for - and getting! The best beginner's education you'll find. HTH, Malcolm On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 19:42 -0400, Nancy Chisholm wrote: I have read several directions on how to make your own generator- but they all slightly differ (bubbling water vs stirring or non-agitating). I just do not know what is the best method. Is there a webpage out there for good directions? - Original Message - From: Scotty To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 7:29 PM Subject: Re: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled? Yes, Nancy, you can make your own nanoparticle silver at home! I used a bridge rectifier (ac to dc) to make my unit and have been making my own silver for the past five years. My setup is crude but very cost effective and efficient. Good luck on your endeavor! Scotty Have a great day! __ From: Nancy Chisholm nchish...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, July 5, 2011 4:11:22 PM Subject: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled? I am new to this website and I would like to start making the very best true nanoparticle colloidal silver for my own use. Can a homemade generator or ready made (ex.- SilverGen) produce nanoparticle sized particles (not just ions). Or, is it best to just purchase the colloidal silver already bottled on the market- ex.-SilverSol or etc? Please help. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled?
Hi, Yes there is lots of information out there. The silvergen designed and made by Trem and the silverpuppy designed and made by Ode Coyote are generally agreed by long-time CS list members to be two of the very best available, and they're priced reasonably. Just for ducks, here's some terminology: EIS is the acromyn for Electrically Isolated Silver, a term invented by Ole Bob a long-time silver list member and experimenter, to distinguish it from some other ways of making finely divided silver, like powdered silver which is a much coarser form of particle than what is produced by the LVDC or HVDC (Low Voltage Direct Current or High Voltage Direct Current) methods. Another supposed method for making a silver sol is chemical, but these usually introduce other matter into the finished product which range from an interference to absorbtion to - rarely - a poison such as silver nitrate. A colloid is a colloid is a colloid; that means the particles, whether they are ions or not, are so small that they won't be able to settle out of the water they're contained in. The reason they can't is that Brownian motion - you should look it up - keeps the particles jiggling and bumping about so they can't. If you've ever watched the little particles of dust in a beam of sunshine jiggling and bumping around you've seen Brownian motion in action. An ion may be as small as a molecule of an element, or a thousand molecules of that element stuck together, or even a compound of two or a few elements. What makes it an ion is that it has an electric charge; for a metal like Silver or Sodium or Calcium the charge is usually positive meaning that particle has lost an electron or so and wants it back so it can be neutral in charge; meanwhile, it's an ion. Our whole bodily chemistry depends on jillions upon jillions of ionic chemical exchanges where some element or compound swaps electrons with some other, then goes somewhere else within us and swaps electrons with some other; again, and again, and again, and . . . . . . . . . Color is another confusion factor. Generally clear is best, slight yellow tinge is fine; no harm. Muddy or red, skip it. Arguments about whether the ionic or particulate form is really the most effective form are usually not worth your time, since any home-made Colloidal Silver will contain both. Any supposed distinction between silverwater and colloidal silver is semantic gobbledegook; avoid it and it's practitioners. As for making your own generator; did you ever build an electronics kit? They're not too hard to do, usually, but you need some good skills like soldering, electronic parts color coding and other distinguishing marks and characteristicsknowledge, some little tools like a good soldering iron, small diagonal cutters, long-nose pliers, blade and philips screwdrivers, some insulated wire, a little of this, a little of that . . . . I don't know of any kit put out for making a CS generator and so containing all the many itty-bitty parts and a circuit board to mount them on, and instructions for how to do it. Beginning to feel like you've just opened Pandora's Box?? Sorry, but there's so much snow-job hype out there just because CS aka EIS does work for many and it's become the new Snake Oil. But there's no doubt that any you make yourself from Trem's or Ode's devices will beat almost any magic silver fairy dust solution you buy, hands down! And overall, tons cheaper in the long run. HTH, Malcolm On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 09:40 -0400, Nancy Chisholm wrote: Thank you Malcolm. There is a lot of info out therethe only problem is- it is not all consistant ( generators brewing technique). - Original Message - From: Malcolm s...@asis.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 2:18 AM Subject: Re: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled? Hi Nancy, There is a lot of good info on the CS site, and I'd also recommend going to Ken's (Ode Coyote) site at: www.silverpuppy.com to read up on the whole subject. He's as honest as they come, and has a ton of information there. There used to be a lot of info on do-it-yourself CS generators but it's hard to beat the silverpuppy for a good CS generator unless your like to make stuff for yourself. Keep asking, you'll get a lot of good info here. In any case though, read Ken's site first so you know what you're looking for - and getting! The best beginner's education you'll find. HTH, Malcolm On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 19:42 -0400, Nancy Chisholm wrote: I have read several directions on how to make your own generator- but they all slightly differ (bubbling water vs stirring or non-agitating). I just do not know what is the best method. Is there a webpage out there for good directions? - Original Message - From: Scotty To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 7:29 PM
CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled?
I am new to this website and I would like to start making the very best true nanoparticle colloidal silver for my own use. Can a homemade generator or ready made (ex.- SilverGen) produce nanoparticle sized particles (not just ions). Or, is it best to just purchase the colloidal silver already bottled on the market- ex.-SilverSol or etc? Please help. Nancy
Re: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled?
Yes, Nancy, you can make your own nanoparticle silver at home! I used a bridge rectifier (ac to dc) to make my unit and have been making my own silver for the past five years. My setup is crude but very cost effective and efficient. Good luck on your endeavor! Scotty Have a great day! From: Nancy Chisholm nchish...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, July 5, 2011 4:11:22 PM Subject: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled? I am new to this website and I would like to start making the very best true nanoparticle colloidal silver for my own use. Can a homemade generator or ready made (ex.- SilverGen) produce nanoparticle sized particles (not just ions). Or, is it best to just purchase the colloidal silver already bottled on the market- ex.-SilverSol or etc? Please help. Nancy
Re: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled?
I have read several directions on how to make your own generator- but they all slightly differ (bubbling water vs stirring or non-agitating). I just do not know what is the best method. Is there a webpage out there for good directions? - Original Message - From: Scotty To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 7:29 PM Subject: Re: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled? Yes, Nancy, you can make your own nanoparticle silver at home! I used a bridge rectifier (ac to dc) to make my unit and have been making my own silver for the past five years. My setup is crude but very cost effective and efficient. Good luck on your endeavor! Scotty Have a great day! -- From: Nancy Chisholm nchish...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, July 5, 2011 4:11:22 PM Subject: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled? I am new to this website and I would like to start making the very best true nanoparticle colloidal silver for my own use. Can a homemade generator or ready made (ex.- SilverGen) produce nanoparticle sized particles (not just ions). Or, is it best to just purchase the colloidal silver already bottled on the market- ex.-SilverSol or etc? Please help. Nancy
Re: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled?
A good website I'm not sure about. As far as stirring methods, I have tried thermal stirring (using a hot plate underneath a coffee carafe) and hand stirring (every 30 mins). Heating produced a pungent taste after a couple of days so I just stir mine by hand. There are other ways of doing it I'm sure. I got the parts to my generator from radio shack. I will try to send you a picture of my setup and explain how I did it. I'm very busy so it may take a couple of days. Scotty Have a great day! From: Nancy Chisholm nchish...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, July 5, 2011 4:42:51 PM Subject: Re: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled? I have read several directions on how to make your own generator- but they all slightly differ (bubbling water vs stirring or non-agitating). I just do not know what is the best method. Is there a webpage out there for good directions? - Original Message - From: Scotty To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 7:29 PM Subject: Re: CSHome made Generator vsa SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled? Yes, Nancy, you can make your own nanoparticle silver at home! I used a bridge rectifier (ac to dc) to make my unit and have been making my own silver for the past five years. My setup is crude but very cost effective and efficient. Good luck on your endeavor! Scotty Have a greatday! From: Nancy Chisholm nchish...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, July 5, 2011 4:11:22PM Subject: CSHome madeGenerator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled? I am new to thiswebsite and I would like to start making the very best true nanoparticlecolloidal silver for my own use. Can a homemade generator or ready made (ex.-SilverGen) produce nanoparticle sized particles (not just ions).Or, is it best to just purchase the colloidal silver already bottled onthe market- ex.-SilverSol or etc? Pleasehelp. Nancy
Re: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled?
Nancy, The SilverGen is an excellent device that makes an ionic/particulate solution of nano sized particles. The mix is usually in the 80% ionic, 20% particulate range. Understand that it is only silver ions that kill pathogens because they are charged. Silver particles become ions in the blood stream. Bob - Original Message - From: Nancy Chisholm To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 4:11 PM Subject: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled? I am new to this website and I would like to start making the very best true nanoparticle colloidal silver for my own use. Can a homemade generator or ready made (ex.- SilverGen) produce nanoparticle sized particles (not just ions). Or, is it best to just purchase the colloidal silver already bottled on the market- ex.-SilverSol or etc? Please help. Nancy
Re: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled?
Thank you. - Original Message - From: Scotty To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 7:49 PM Subject: Re: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled? A good website I'm not sure about. As far as stirring methods, I have tried thermal stirring (using a hot plate underneath a coffee carafe) and hand stirring (every 30 mins). Heating produced a pungent taste after a couple of days so I just stir mine by hand. There are other ways of doing it I'm sure. I got the parts to my generator from radio shack. I will try to send you a picture of my setup and explain how I did it. I'm very busy so it may take a couple of days. Scotty Have a great day! -- From: Nancy Chisholm nchish...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, July 5, 2011 4:42:51 PM Subject: Re: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled? I have read several directions on how to make your own generator- but they all slightly differ (bubbling water vs stirring or non-agitating). I just do not know what is the best method. Is there a webpage out there for good directions? - Original Message - From: Scotty To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 7:29 PM Subject: Re: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled? Yes, Nancy, you can make your own nanoparticle silver at home! I used a bridge rectifier (ac to dc) to make my unit and have been making my own silver for the past five years. My setup is crude but very cost effective and efficient. Good luck on your endeavor! Scotty Have a great day! From: Nancy Chisholm nchish...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, July 5, 2011 4:11:22 PM Subject: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled? I am new to this website and I would like to start making the very best true nanoparticle colloidal silver for my own use. Can a homemade generator or ready made (ex.- SilverGen) produce nanoparticle sized particles (not just ions). Or, is it best to just purchase the colloidal silver already bottled on the market- ex.-SilverSol or etc? Please help. Nancy
