Re: CSRE: colloidal gold
Dear ASL -- you do not have to be intimidated by this -- not at all. There are several nice units that only require snapping alligator clips onto silver bars, and plugging an electrical plug into an outlet. No different than plugging in a toaster! Ode's *Silver Puppy* is one generator like this. Another one is the *Colloid Master*, which I have. You don't have to set up anything at all. Others on the list can tell you how to access the Silver Puppy. To access the Colloid Master, go to www.wishgranted.com. Good luck -- and happy silver-making! MA From: ASL aslra...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, February 24, 2013 4:57:44 PM Subject: Re: CSRE: colloidal gold Hi All, After many months reading about how people make their own colloidal silver, I am still quite intimidated by the thought of trying to set up machines and what like - I am not mechanically/chemically-inclined. Yet I wish to save my money too. Just cured an ear infection last week using few drops of store-bought SC and organic olive oil, it was gone after 6 hours and has not returned. Impressed. Anyway, as a Deaf person, does anyone know of a YouTube video that has step by step guide in how to use the machines to make SC with English subtitles?
CSRE: colloidal gold
James, Please share on the list how you make colloidal gold. Thanks, Steve _ From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On Behalf Of James McDonald Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:57 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSelling CS products I put a couple of drops of CS into my wifes plant water and it seems that the plants do well and have had no problems. I have seen the IS/CS sell for anywhere from $15.00 to $45.00 a 4 oz bottle. Thats too much! I make my own and the cost of DW and the 5 cents of silver that end up in 20 PPM are the only costs now. Of course all the equipment to make mine, you can just use a CLD diode and silver wire and mason jars and a timer. I have a magnetic stirrer/heater, beakers, fitted lids, multimeters, thermometers, pipetts, a lot more than you need just to make IS/CS. I also make CG(Colloidal Gold), and experiment with different stabilizers and electrolytes. So the end cost of charging (I only charge for the bottle) zero for the IS/CS. I might have to if I end up making gallons of the stuff per week. I have charges $1.00 for refills to keep up in DW and put some money away for new silver wires.
Re: CSRE: colloidal gold
I can't imagine that a couple drops would be able to do much to a large amount of soil. I'm thinking it might be just enough for the plant to absorb and use to fight off disease and fungus. Maybe I can think of it as treating the plant not the soil? On Feb 24, 2013 5:27 PM, Steve youngs...@digis.net wrote: James, ** ** Please share on the list how you make colloidal gold. Thanks, Steve -- *From:* silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] *On Behalf Of *James McDonald *Sent:* Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:57 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSSelling CS products ** ** I put a couple of drops of CS into my wifes plant water and it seems that the plants do well and have had no problems. I have seen the IS/CS sell for anywhere from $15.00 to $45.00 a 4 oz bottle. Thats too much! I make my own and the cost of DW and the 5 cents of silver that end up in 20 PPM are the only costs now. Of course all the equipment to make mine, you can just use a CLD diode and silver wire and mason jars and a timer. I have a magnetic stirrer/heater, beakers, fitted lids, multimeters, thermometers, pipetts, a lot more than you need just to make IS/CS. I also make CG(Colloidal Gold), and experiment with different stabilizers and electrolytes. So the end cost of charging (I only charge for the bottle) zero for the IS/CS. I might have to if I end up making gallons of the stuff per week. I have charges $1.00 for refills to keep up in DW and put some money away for new silver wires. ** ** ** **
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Yes, I, too, am very interested to know how you proceed for colloidal gold preparation. From: Steve youngs...@digis.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:27 PM Subject: CSRE: colloidal gold James, Please share on the list how you make colloidal gold. Thanks, Steve From:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On Behalf Of James McDonald Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:57 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSelling CS products I put a couple of drops of CS into my wifes plant water and it seems that the plants do well and have had no problems. I have seen the IS/CS sell for anywhere from $15.00 to $45.00 a 4 oz bottle. Thats too much! I make my own and the cost of DW and the 5 cents of silver that end up in 20 PPM are the only costs now. Of course all the equipment to make mine, you can just use a CLD diode and silver wire and mason jars and a timer. I have a magnetic stirrer/heater, beakers, fitted lids, multimeters, thermometers, pipetts, a lot more than you need just to make IS/CS. I also make CG(Colloidal Gold), and experiment with different stabilizers and electrolytes. So the end cost of charging (I only charge for the bottle) zero for the IS/CS. I might have to if I end up making gallons of the stuff per week. I have charges $1.00 for refills to keep up in DW and put some money away for new silver wires.
Re: CSRE: colloidal gold
Hi All, After many months reading about how people make their own colloidal silver, I am still quite intimidated by the thought of trying to set up machines and what like - I am not mechanically/chemically-inclined. Yet I wish to save my money too. Just cured an ear infection last week using few drops of store-bought SC and organic olive oil, it was gone after 6 hours and has not returned. Impressed. Anyway, as a Deaf person, does anyone know of a YouTube video that has step by step guide in how to use the machines to make SC with English subtitles?
Re: CSRE: colloidal gold
Pretty simple really, I am saving up to buy some 18 guage 24k 99.99% gold wire to make my own from scratch. Otherwise I make the CG the easy way with gold chloride(from SaltLakeMetals), 1 molar sodium carbonate, maltodextrin (made mistake in ordering and ordered a 8lb jar! lifetime+ supply!), DW(Distilled Watet), beaker, glass syringe Add 1/2 level teaspoon maltodextrin to 500ml cold distilled water. Add 2 ml gold chloride Add 20 drops 1M sodium carbonate. Heat in microwave to boiling. Done From: Steve youngs...@digis.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:27 PM Subject: CSRE: colloidal gold James, Please share on the list how you make colloidal gold. Thanks, Steve From:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On Behalf Of James McDonald Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:57 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSelling CS products I put a couple of drops of CS into my wifes plant water and it seems that the plants do well and have had no problems. I have seen the IS/CS sell for anywhere from $15.00 to $45.00 a 4 oz bottle. Thats too much! I make my own and the cost of DW and the 5 cents of silver that end up in 20 PPM are the only costs now. Of course all the equipment to make mine, you can just use a CLD diode and silver wire and mason jars and a timer. I have a magnetic stirrer/heater, beakers, fitted lids, multimeters, thermometers, pipetts, a lot more than you need just to make IS/CS. I also make CG(Colloidal Gold), and experiment with different stabilizers and electrolytes. So the end cost of charging (I only charge for the bottle) zero for the IS/CS. I might have to if I end up making gallons of the stuff per week. I have charges $1.00 for refills to keep up in DW and put some money away for new silver wires.
Re: CSRE: colloidal gold
Use the excuse for plants to get around FDA,EPA etc. From: Heather W heatherwy...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:30 PM Subject: Re: CSRE: colloidal gold I can't imagine that a couple drops would be able to do much to a large amount of soil. I'm thinking it might be just enough for the plant to absorb and use to fight off disease and fungus. Maybe I can think of it as treating the plant not the soil? On Feb 24, 2013 5:27 PM, Steve youngs...@digis.net wrote: James, Please share on the list how you make colloidal gold. Thanks, Steve From:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On Behalf Of James McDonald Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:57 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSelling CS products I put a couple of drops of CS into my wifes plant water and it seems that the plants do well and have had no problems. I have seen the IS/CS sell for anywhere from $15.00 to $45.00 a 4 oz bottle. Thats too much! I make my own and the cost of DW and the 5 cents of silver that end up in 20 PPM are the only costs now. Of course all the equipment to make mine, you can just use a CLD diode and silver wire and mason jars and a timer. I have a magnetic stirrer/heater, beakers, fitted lids, multimeters, thermometers, pipetts, a lot more than you need just to make IS/CS. I also make CG(Colloidal Gold), and experiment with different stabilizers and electrolytes. So the end cost of charging (I only charge for the bottle) zero for the IS/CS. I might have to if I end up making gallons of the stuff per week. I have charges $1.00 for refills to keep up in DW and put some money away for new silver wires.
Re: CSRE: colloidal gold
I keep telling people you can make a current controlled CS generator with a CLD(Current Limiting Diode) @ 1mA to 5mA depending on silver anode size, 4 - 9v batteries, 9v battery clips, some wire clips, silver wire, beaker or other glass jar, timer. You can get this all for under(including silver wire/coin) $50.00. From: ASL aslra...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:57 PM Subject: Re: CSRE: colloidal gold Hi All, After many months reading about how people make their own colloidal silver, I am still quite intimidated by the thought of trying to set up machines and what like - I am not mechanically/chemically-inclined. Yet I wish to save my money too. Just cured an ear infection last week using few drops of store-bought SC and organic olive oil, it was gone after 6 hours and has not returned. Impressed. Anyway, as a Deaf person, does anyone know of a YouTube video that has step by step guide in how to use the machines to make SC with English subtitles?
Re: CSRE: colloidal gold
P.S. If you PM me I will write up a detailed how-to on IS/CS (Ionic Silver/Colloidal Silver) build your own and where to get parts that don't cost an arm leg. From: ASL aslra...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:57 PM Subject: Re: CSRE: colloidal gold Hi All, After many months reading about how people make their own colloidal silver, I am still quite intimidated by the thought of trying to set up machines and what like - I am not mechanically/chemically-inclined. Yet I wish to save my money too. Just cured an ear infection last week using few drops of store-bought SC and organic olive oil, it was gone after 6 hours and has not returned. Impressed. Anyway, as a Deaf person, does anyone know of a YouTube video that has step by step guide in how to use the machines to make SC with English subtitles?
RE: CSRE: colloidal gold
For use on animals may be OK too in getting around those problems. N. Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 15:22:46 -0800 From: kscma...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: colloidal gold To: silver-list@eskimo.com Use the excuse for plants to get around FDA,EPA etc. From: Heather W heatherwy...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:30 PM Subject: Re: CSRE: colloidal gold I can't imagine that a couple drops would be able to do much to a large amount of soil. I'm thinking it might be just enough for the plant to absorb and use to fight off disease and fungus. Maybe I can think of it as treating the plant not the soil? On Feb 24, 2013 5:27 PM, Steve youngs...@digis.net wrote: James, Please share on the list how you make colloidal gold. Thanks, Steve From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On Behalf Of James McDonald Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:57 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSelling CS products I put a couple of drops of CS into my wifes plant water and it seems that the plants do well and have had no problems. I have seen the IS/CS sell for anywhere from $15.00 to $45.00 a 4 oz bottle. Thats too much! I make my own and the cost of DW and the 5 cents of silver that end up in 20 PPM are the only costs now. Of course all the equipment to make mine, you can just use a CLD diode and silver wire and mason jars and a timer. I have a magnetic stirrer/heater, beakers, fitted lids, multimeters, thermometers, pipetts, a lot more than you need just to make IS/CS. I also make CG(Colloidal Gold), and experiment with different stabilizers and electrolytes. So the end cost of charging (I only charge for the bottle) zero for the IS/CS. I might have to if I end up making gallons of the stuff per week. I have charges $1.00 for refills to keep up in DW and put some money away for new silver wires.
Re: CSRE: colloidal gold
Hi, there was nothing mechanical about setting up my silver puppy... just plugging in a couple of plugs and the wires into the top. Just read the instructions. Best of luck. PT From: ASL aslra...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, February 24, 2013 5:57:42 PM Subject: Re: CSRE: colloidal gold Hi All, After many months reading about how people make their own colloidal silver, I am still quite intimidated by the thought of trying to set up machines and what like - I am not mechanically/chemically-inclined. Yet I wish to save my money too. Just cured an ear infection last week using few drops of store-bought SC and organic olive oil, it was gone after 6 hours and has not returned. Impressed. Anyway, as a Deaf person, does anyone know of a YouTube video that has step by step guide in how to use the machines to make SC with English subtitles?
Re: CSRE: Colloidal Gold
Gold is EXTREMLY corrosion resistant. Most 'acids' won't touch it. ode At 01:42 PM 12/16/2004 -0800, you wrote: I have a question. Since distilled water is corrosive, why doesn't it dissolve a percentage of gold from a coin that is simply set in the water. Isn't that what the pilgrims need with their silver dollars. Seems it would at least produce a homeopathic type relationship. ed -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.5.4 - Release Date: 12/15/2004 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.5.4 - Release Date: 12/15/2004
RE: CSRE: Colloidal Gold
yes both silver and gold are resistant to corrosion but not immune. Gold it seems would take my lifetime to CG au natural. ed -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 6:57 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: Colloidal Gold Gold is EXTREMLY corrosion resistant. Most 'acids' won't touch it. ode At 01:42 PM 12/16/2004 -0800, you wrote: I have a question. Since distilled water is corrosive, why doesn't it dissolve a percentage of gold from a coin that is simply set in the water. Isn't that what the pilgrims need with their silver dollars. Seems it would at least produce a homeopathic type relationship. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRE: Colloidal Gold
I 'm wondering if one could HYDROSOL Gold or Silver with distilled water. This is a process commonly used to produce flower essence or essential oils. You have a closed system with water boiling on the bottom. The steam rises and passes through a second middle layer [flowers / herbs / Gold / Silver] and condenses at the top and collecting the essence of the flower/herb or oil along with the steam distillate which runs down a cooling strip. I may try that if I can get a hold of some gold and silver dust. Just have to plan things out what to hold the dust on (stainless may as well corrode, paper filters (like coffee filters, how to weight everything and what to look for and then how to test whats there. any ideas? ed -Original Message- From: Sally Khanna [mailto:khann...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 11:37 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: Colloidal Gold In Ayurveda, we were taught to boil pure gold in water (I don't have the specifics handy) to produce gold water or the same process for silver. this produces a somewhat homeopathic water. Sally Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net wrote: I have a question. Since distilled water is corrosive, why doesn't it dissolve a percentage of gold from a coin that is simply set in the water. Isn't that what the pilgrims need with their silver dollars. Seems it would at least produce a homeopathic type relationship. ed
CSRE: Colloidal Gold
I have a question. Since distilled water is corrosive, why doesn't it dissolve a percentage of gold from a coin that is simply set in the water. Isn't that what the pilgrims need with their silver dollars. Seems it would at least produce a homeopathic type relationship. ed -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRE: Colloidal Gold
Distilled water is inert to gold and silver. (water reacts to magnesium because the magnesium splits the molecule and ignites the hydrogen) Running water will erode metal (and rock) over time. However the particles are too big to be metabolized by the body. If you just place gold or silver in standing water it will simply oxidize. -Original Message- From: Ed Kasper [mailto:edkas...@pacbell.net] Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 4:43 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRE: Colloidal Gold I have a question. Since distilled water is corrosive, why doesn't it dissolve a percentage of gold from a coin that is simply set in the water. Isn't that what the pilgrims need with their silver dollars. Seems it would at least produce a homeopathic type relationship. ed -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRE: Colloidal Gold
water is a solvent meaning it dissolves things. There are claims that people are sick because they are dehydrated. see www.watercure.com There are PhD's and doctors that claim drinking distilled water will leech minerals form your body so you should not drink distilled water. Isn't oxidize a break-down of a metal. Dissolving the metal. In theory distilled water would be pure nothing else in it and Gold as a base metal no further breakdown into something else is possible so the end result over enough time will be gold water. thanks for your thoughts, ed -Original Message- From: Kay Kelly [mailto:kayke...@mindspring.com] Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 2:08 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSRE: Colloidal Gold Distilled water is inert to gold and silver. (water reacts to magnesium because the magnesium splits the molecule and ignites the hydrogen) Running water will erode metal (and rock) over time. However the particles are too big to be metabolized by the body. If you just place gold or silver in standing water it will simply oxidize. -Original Message- From: Ed Kasper [mailto:edkas...@pacbell.net] Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 4:43 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRE: Colloidal Gold I have a question. Since distilled water is corrosive, why doesn't it dissolve a percentage of gold from a coin that is simply set in the water. Isn't that what the pilgrims need with their silver dollars. Seems it would at least produce a homeopathic type relationship. ed -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: Colloidal Gold
In Ayurveda, we were taught to boil pure gold in water (I don't have the specifics handy) to produce gold water or the same process for silver. this produces a somewhat homeopathic water. Sally Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net wrote: I have a question. Since distilled water is corrosive, why doesn't it dissolve a percentage of gold from a coin that is simply set in the water. Isn't that what the pilgrims need with their silver dollars. Seems it would at least produce a homeopathic type relationship. ed -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CSRe: Colloidal gold
Dan Nave 8/26/03 5:13 PM Wrote: Stay on the silver list. There's a lot of colloidal gold info here. You also get to read a whole lot of unsolicited smart-ass comments by Jack Dayton... *** I'll keep you in mind. Jack Dayton -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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CSRe: Colloidal gold From: jrowland Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 22:02:41 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html jr Which entries are you referring to, jr? Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Which entries are you referring to... Entering colloidal gold in the Search field yields 326 results; http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m53850.html http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m53849.html are but 2 examples. jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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jrowl...@nctimes.net 8/26/03 8:41 AM Wrote: Which entries are you referring to... Entering colloidal gold in the Search field yields 326 results; http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m53850.html http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m53849.html are but 2 examples. jr * Everything you could ever want to know on the subject will be found by selecting google, and then entering -- colloidal gold I think I saw that 37,200 hits were available. When you finish reading, get back to us with all that you learned. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Stay on the silver list. There's a lot of colloidal gold info here. You also get to read a whole lot of unsolicited smart-ass comments by Jack Dayton... Re: CSRe: Colloidal gold From: Jack Dayton (view other messages by this author) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 11:36:00 Which entries are you referring to... * Everything you could ever want to know on the subject will be found by selecting google, and then entering -- colloidal gold I think I saw that 37,200 hits were available. When you finish reading, get back to us with all that you learned. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I would be very interested in hearing about Colloidal Gold making!---Dan It's been discussed many times, so there's plenty in the archives, too: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: Colloidal Gold
Colloidal gold, like all true metallic colloids, changes colour with changing particle size. Yellow at 13nm Red/Orange at 15nm Red at 30nm Wine Red at 30 - 40nm Violet at 50nm Blue at 70nm For further info see the Mie Theory of light scattering and extinction. Regards Ivan. -Original Message- From: brian...@hotmail.com [mailto:brian...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, 25 November 2002 2:37 p.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: Colloidal Gold I believe CG's colour should be pale purple through red and then to deep blue with increasing gold concentration. I don't know if particle size would effect the concentration. One method that's used to produce CG is an underwater high voltage arc between gold electrodes seperated by about 1/4. A neon sign transformer typically is used as it has the characteristic of being effectively current limited and able to produce enough voltage to keep the arc sustained. Commercial neon sign transformer are limited in the range of 20 to 120mA, with the most common units being 30 mA. It has been mentioned to me that 15Kv (15 thousand volt) neon sign transformer with 60mA capacity is what gives good results. These neon sign transformers have an alternating (AC) output. The high voltage (15Kv) would, I assume, start the arc, and then the neon sign transformer will adjust output voltage to some lower voltage to keep it's current limited output going through the arc. Electrode spacing apparently has some effect on current as well. In a previous post, it was said that keeping the gold electrodes small was required to sustain the arc. I believe, the arc, in effect, releases colloidal gold particles. This method also uses distilled water that's cooled and kept in motion during the process; a bit different than the process described by akaJhon. BTW, I've received many responses to my query about creation of a colloidal gold discussion grup. They are all encouraging me to setup this list, so I'll proceed. It's been suggested by several that moderation is essential for such a group for various reasons. More details to follow. Thanks! Brian. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Colloidal Gold
I believe CG's colour should be pale purple through red and then to deep blue with increasing gold concentration. I don't know if particle size would effect the concentration. One method that's used to produce CG is an underwater high voltage arc between gold electrodes seperated by about 1/4. A neon sign transformer typically is used as it has the characteristic of being effectively current limited and able to produce enough voltage to keep the arc sustained. Commercial neon sign transformer are limited in the range of 20 to 120mA, with the most common units being 30 mA. It has been mentioned to me that 15Kv (15 thousand volt) neon sign transformer with 60mA capacity is what gives good results. These neon sign transformers have an alternating (AC) output. The high voltage (15Kv) would, I assume, start the arc, and then the neon sign transformer will adjust output voltage to some lower voltage to keep it's current limited output going through the arc. Electrode spacing apparently has some effect on current as well. In a previous post, it was said that keeping the gold electrodes small was required to sustain the arc. I believe, the arc, in effect, releases colloidal gold particles. This method also uses distilled water that's cooled and kept in motion during the process; a bit different than the process described by akaJhon. BTW, I've received many responses to my query about creation of a colloidal gold discussion grup. They are all encouraging me to setup this list, so I'll proceed. It's been suggested by several that moderation is essential for such a group for various reasons. More details to follow. Thanks! Brian. - Original Message - From: akaJhon maj.yo...@ellijay.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 10:22 AM Subject: CSFw: CSCS RE: Colloidal Gold Trem etc,, Laser says lots of sparkles,, and if my voltmeter is set correctly and I am reading it right,,says 1,000 volts DC.. - Original Message - From: akaJhon maj.yo...@ellijay.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 10:08 PM Subject: Re: CSCS RE: Colloidal Gold | No specs on voltage,,can test it tomorrow,, | color on the 2 month old is a very pale gold,, | reads 190 on the Dist 1 scale,, | am taking Brent at his word about the ppm.. | laser dead,,can get new batteries tomorrow for 'sparkle effect'.. | | | - Original Message - | Subject: Re: CSCS RE: Colloidal Gold | | | | Hi John, | | | | Thanks for the feedback. Guess I'm still in the dark as to voltage and | | current. It's sort of like saying how high is up. So, guess you don't | | know the voltage or currentcorrect? Does the unit have specs. that | | might tell? I suppose you don't have a multimeter to measure | itcorrect? | | | | What color does it come out? | | | | If the reading on a DIST 1 is 100 at the start, what is the reading at the | | end? 110 after an hour and 115 after 2 hours? Or something different? | I'm | | trying to get a handle on the method of reading CG. Or are you told it | will | | be 10 PPM after an hour, etc. and taking it on faith? | | | | Yep, I knew you were a customer. Looked your first name up in our | database. | | It's not in your email address. | | | | | | Trem | | | | | | - Original Message - | | From: akaJhon maj.yo...@ellijay.com | | To: silver-list@eskimo.com | | Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 3:33 PM | | Subject: Re: CSCS RE: Colloidal Gold | | | | | | My understanding is as follows,,, | | | | high currant/amps. for making CG, | | 24 kt electrodes,(one gold,,the other siver,,) | | uses baking soda for CG only | | one qt. of distilled water,,tested with DIST 1ppm tester (100reading | with | | bking soda) | | Water heated to 190 degrees F. | | One hour running for 10 ppm | | 2 hours for 15 ppm etc. | | silver gives off hydrogen gas ,,gold gives off co2 | | has switch for silver/gold.. | | | |I use gold sometimes,,silver daily,,I haven't got in the habit,,I am | in | | very good health so nothing seems to change me health or mental wise.. | | | | Please excuse my slow typing,,a hunter and pecker typer. | | BTW Trem,,I use your 'Silver/Gen' for making my C/S.. | | | | aka Jhon | | | | The biggest conspiracy of all is the claim that there are no | | conspiracies! | | ~ | | | | | | | | | | | | | Hi John, | | | | | | Have you measured the current and voltage this unit operates at? If | so, | | | would you care to share? | | | | | | What color is the CG? What strength? Measured with? How long to | make | | a | | | batch and the batch volume? | | | | | | Do you heat the water? How much? | | | | | | Notice any physical or mental effects? | | | | | | Thanks for answering. | | | | | | | | | I have bought this gold gen... | | | | | | | | |
RE: CSRE: Colloidal Gold
Andy, Things change a bit when looking at electrolysis or galvanic reactions. The definition of anode and cathode, the anode is where an oxidation reaction occurs (the species loses electrons) and the cathode is where reduction occurs (the species gains electrons). As electrons cannot travel through water they must traverse from the anode to the cathode via connecting wires. The gold anode is held at a positive potential which sucks electrons from it, oxidising it to positive gold ions, which then travel to the negatively charged cathode where they will eventually plate out, regaining the electrons that they lost. Regards Ivan -Original Message- From: ascottsil...@aol.com [mailto:ascottsil...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, 22 November 2002 7:43 p.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRE: Colloidal Gold Hi Trem, Regarding your below response, gold doesn't tarnish, rust or oxidize very well. That's why it's okay after it has been lost at sea and recovered. I think it will eventually disintegrate through electrolysis though. Try gold plating something like a car bumper. Also, I think you might have your polarity back assward. The cathode is the emitter and the anode is the collector. Remember vacuum tubes? The electrons fly off of the negative charged cathode towards the positive charged anode. Hope this helps, Andy Trem -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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ascottsil...@aol.com wrote: Hi Trem, Also, I think you might have your polarity back assward. The cathode is the emitter and the anode is the collector. Remember vacuum tubes? The electrons fly off of the negative charged cathode towards the positive charged anode. Silver comes off the anode, not the cathode. The direction of electron flow is irrelevent in this context. There is little if any electron flow in the water, it is virtually all ion flow, and usually the ion flow is about the same in both directions. O moves one direction and OH moves the other direction. In the case of silver, the silver is positively charged when it leaves the electrode, that is it has lost an electron, and moves toward the negative electrode. Thus it comes off the anode and moves toward the cathode. Marshall
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Thanks Ivan and Marshall for fielding this one from Andy. I am an old time vacuum tube user and electrons certainly did go from cathode to the anode. Trem
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Andy-- Emigration of silver particles from wire works inversely from electron flow; the vaccuum tube analogy doesn't explain this type of impetus (I was also corrected on this point previously). As I recall, the mechanism is thus: Electrical charge from the wires ionizes particles in the water, and negative ions *attract* the positively charged silver to the solution. Anyway, the *positive* wire supplies the particles! --Russ - Original Message - From: ascottsil...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 12:42 AM Subject: CSRE: Colloidal Gold Hi Trem, Regarding your below response, gold doesn't tarnish, rust or oxidize very well. That's why it's okay after it has been lost at sea and recovered. I think it will eventually disintegrate through electrolysis though. Try gold plating something like a car bumper. Also, I think you might have your polarity back assward. The cathode is the emitter and the anode is the collector. Remember vacuum tubes? The electrons fly off of the negative charged cathode towards the positive charged anode. Hope this helps, Andy Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 14:21:16 -0800 From: Trem t...@silvergen.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS RE: Colloidal Gold Message-ID: 036b01c291ac$6576eb90$30217...@silvergen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Jannette, Vey inteerestinggg. I'm at a loss to see how this can work. A gold electrode just does not disintegrate using low voltage DC electrolysis. At least it never has for me. Gold coins lost at sea for hundreds of years come up looking the same as the day they were submerged and they are continually being exposed to electrolysis. And of course the silver electrode has to be the CATHODE (negative polarity) or it will be the one to deteriorate if you use DC. The anode is the one that releases particles. Did you mistype the polarity in your post? Quite a mystery to me. Do you know how much current is flowing? Sure you're not using their HVAC model? Apparently it puts out 10,000 VAC but no current is mentioned on their website. Trem
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Well, I'll be damned. I didn't know that. I assumed that ions would be stripped off of the negative cathode and plate out on the positive anode (the plate). I guess I had it back asswards. Sorry Trem. Thanks for the info Ivan. Andy From: Ivan Anderson i...@win.co.nz To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSRE: Colloidal Gold Andy, Things change a bit when looking at electrolysis or galvanic reactions. The definition of anode and cathode, the anode is where an oxidation reaction occurs (the species loses electrons) and the cathode is where reduction occurs (the species gains electrons). As electrons cannot travel through water they must traverse from the anode to the cathode via connecting wires. The gold anode is held at a positive potential which sucks electrons from it, oxidising it to positive gold ions, which then travel to the negatively charged cathode where they will eventually plate out, regaining the electrons that they lost. Regards Ivan
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Ole Bob said it best: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m42509.html and http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m42532.html (It's OK to check the Archives) jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRE: Colloidal Gold
Hi Trem, Regarding your below response, gold doesn't tarnish, rust or oxidize very well. That's why it's okay after it has been lost at sea and recovered. I think it will eventually disintegrate through electrolysis though. Try gold plating something like a car bumper. Also, I think you might have your polarity back assward. The cathode is the emitter and the anode is the collector. Remember vacuum tubes? The electrons fly off of the negative charged cathode towards the positive charged anode. Hope this helps, Andy Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 14:21:16 -0800 From: Trem t...@silvergen.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS RE: Colloidal Gold Message-ID: 036b01c291ac$6576eb90$30217...@silvergen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Jannette, Vey inteerestinggg. I'm at a loss to see how this can work. A gold electrode just does not disintegrate using low voltage DC electrolysis. At least it never has for me. Gold coins lost at sea for hundreds of years come up looking the same as the day they were submerged and they are continually being exposed to electrolysis. And of course the silver electrode has to be the CATHODE (negative polarity) or it will be the one to deteriorate if you use DC. The anode is the one that releases particles. Did you mistype the polarity in your post? Quite a mystery to me. Do you know how much current is flowing? Sure you're not using their HVAC model? Apparently it puts out 10,000 VAC but no current is mentioned on their website. Trem
