Re: CSStrep virus--why do I still have it?

[Christine Carleton]

If the practitioner who is doing the muscle testing has a list of all the
viruses, its pretty easy and quick to identify the strain that is the
culprit.  Viruses tapped out will be addressed by the body generally within
24 hours.  Some of the nasties take 36 hrs and produce a 'healing fever'
while recouperating.  Then one gets to the point of not searching the lists,
and just taps the sucker out.  After all, we just want to feel better.
Christine

From: patriot2...@mindspring.com

At 09:55 AM 9/22/2004, you wrote:
  A question:  My chiropractor tells me I am carrying a strep virus,
discovering this during a session of muscle testing. [initial test to see if
my adrenal glands were working right.]

I have seen muscle testing done.  It is impressive to watch, and apparently
can tell you IF a weakness or physical illness exists. However, the person
doing it said NOTHING about its ability to IDENTIFY a particular bacterium
or other CAUSE of the weakness or illness.Educated guesses may be
accurate, or not.  Perhaps, you could ask your allopathic physician to order
up a lab strep test to diagnose whether you actually have strep or not. Then
you can decide how to go about treating it if it exists -- up your CS
intake, divide doses, add another agent to it, etc..

I think my doc is pretty good at diagnosis of things caused by an
identifiable agent.  Where we generally differ is on what to do after the
problem is identified!  ;-)

Marlys

= 

RE: CSStrep virus--why do I still have it?

[Ode Coyote]

  Double check the muscle test with a blood test?
Ode

At 08:41 AM 9/22/2004 -0500, you wrote:
Oops, you're right.  Still, why hasn't the CS gotten rid of it?

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From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 7:47 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSStrep virus--why do I still have it?


 Isn't strep a bacterium?
Ode

At 12:01 AM 9/22/2004 -0500, you wrote:
Hello all--
  A question:  My chiropractor tells me I am carrying a strep virus,
discovering this during a session of muscle testing. [initial test to see
if
my adrenal glands were working right.]  I have been regularly drinking 4
oz.
of CS at 8 ppm.  I have upped this to 6 oz.  It's been several weeks and I
am still testing positive, according to the muscle test.  Any thoughts
about
this?

Thanks
Theresa
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Re: CSStrep virus--why do I still have it?

[David Bearrow]

First off, all forms of strep are bacteria not virus. If your chiropractor 
told you it was a strep VIRUS then that person is showing ignorance so 
great that I would not believe anything further that person had to say 
medically.


http://www.rockefeller.edu/vaf/strep.htm

Is it possible to get a false positive or misinterpret the results of a 
muscle test?


David Bearrow


On 22 Sep 2004 at 0:01, tlwid...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Hello all--
   A question:  My chiropractor tells me I am carrying a strep virus,
 discovering this during a session of muscle testing. [initial test to
 see if my adrenal glands were working right.]  I have been regularly
 drinking 4 oz. of CS at 8 ppm.  I have upped this to 6 oz.  It's been
 several weeks and I am still testing positive, according to the muscle
 test.  Any thoughts about this?

 Thanks
 Theresa



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Re: CSStrep virus--why do I still have it?

[Ode Coyote]

 Isn't strep a bacterium?
Ode

At 12:01 AM 9/22/2004 -0500, you wrote:
Hello all--
  A question:  My chiropractor tells me I am carrying a strep virus,
discovering this during a session of muscle testing. [initial test to see if
my adrenal glands were working right.]  I have been regularly drinking 4 oz.
of CS at 8 ppm.  I have upped this to 6 oz.  It's been several weeks and I
am still testing positive, according to the muscle test.  Any thoughts about
this?

Thanks
Theresa
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RE: CSStrep virus--why do I still have it?

[tlwidmer]

Oops, you're right.  Still, why hasn't the CS gotten rid of it?

-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 7:47 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSStrep virus--why do I still have it?


 Isn't strep a bacterium?
Ode

At 12:01 AM 9/22/2004 -0500, you wrote:
Hello all--
  A question:  My chiropractor tells me I am carrying a strep virus,
discovering this during a session of muscle testing. [initial test to see
if
my adrenal glands were working right.]  I have been regularly drinking 4
oz.
of CS at 8 ppm.  I have upped this to 6 oz.  It's been several weeks and I
am still testing positive, according to the muscle test.  Any thoughts
about
this?

Thanks
Theresa
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RE: CSStrep virus--why do I still have it?

[Dan Nave]

Where is it?  

That will give you an indication of what you have to do to get the CS
to it.

Dan



RE: CSStrep virus--why do I still have it?

From: tlwidmer wrote: 
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 06:45:43 



Oops, you're right.  Still, why hasn't the CS gotten rid of it?

-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] 

Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 7:47 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CSStrep virus--why do I still have it?


 Isn't strep a bacterium?
Ode

At 12:01 AM 9/22/2004 -0500, you wrote:
Hello all--
  A question:  My chiropractor tells me I am carrying a strep virus,
discovering this during a session of muscle testing. [initial test to
see if
my adrenal glands were working right.]  I have been regularly drinking
4 oz.
of CS at 8 ppm.  I have upped this to 6 oz.  It's been several weeks
and I
am still testing positive, according to the muscle test.  Any thoughts
about
this?

Thanks
Theresa



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RE: CSStrep virus--why do I still have it?

[Richard Harris]

Hi Theresa,

Sorry to hear of your problem and glad you are calling on generous members
and contributors to this Site to share their ideas and experiences. I, like
you, am a seeker; however as an 81 yr old FL Pharmacist for 57 years, I
have been able to help many people when they would follow through with ideas
and suggestions.

If I had your problem, I would take my CS throughout the day--NOT just one
dose; I would use Brooks Bradley's suggestion to use 1 part CS + 2 parts
Gatorade (as an electrolyte--to take the CS deeper into the tissues than CS
can go alone); I'd take the CS + Gatorade in mouthful doses, holding in
mouth for at least 2 minutes, then swallowing; repeating this until my
decided dose was taken. I'd also build or buy a Godzilla/BECK zapper/ziller
and use daily as directed. bG and V make and sell G/B zappers and my wife
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Re: CSStrep virus--why do I still have it?

[sol]

  For this type of diagnosis, I would go and get a blood test for 
strep, and not rely on muscle testing.
  Why not try much larger oral doses of CS? A pint to a quart or more 
per day?
  Deep seated hidden bacterial and viral and fungal infections are 
likely (my personal opinion) to require very large intakes of CS.
I have arthritis, which may be due to some bacterial or other joint 
infections, and believe I have also leaky gut (due to candida most 
likely) and am currently trying to take in between a pint and a quart of 
CS daily. At some point if this high intake produces good results, I 
will post it here. So far so good---it does seem to be helping, I have 
less joint pain on the days when I drink more CS, and less GI problems 
on those days too.
  There is a large gap in recommended doses of CS. Some here believe 
the more the better, and others keep their intake to what I consider 
very small amounts. I'm not sure why, but for myself am going with the 
very large doses, for at least a few months, to see what happens. There 
have been reports here that small amounts taken over a period of years 
have dealt with deep seated infections, but I don't want to wait years.

sol


tlwid...@sbcglobal.net wrote:


Hello all--
 A question:  My chiropractor tells me I am carrying a strep virus,
discovering this during a session of muscle testing. [initial test to see if
my adrenal glands were working right.]  I have been regularly drinking 4 oz.
of CS at 8 ppm.  I have upped this to 6 oz.  It's been several weeks and I
am still testing positive, according to the muscle test.  Any thoughts about
this?


 




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Re: CSStrep virus--why do I still have it?

[scl...@netzero.net]

 Last time I started getting strep throat I took my cs with a small amount of 
DMSO, maybe less than 1 part DMSO/9parts cs. I found gargling this mixture 
quickly killed the virus/bacteria and the pain much quicker than cs alone. CS 
works wherever it reaches, unfortunately it often does not penetrate deep into 
the tissues. Sometimes cerain bacteria will burrow into the tissues and cause 
pain in that area. It seems to me that strep does this based on my personal 
experience in fighting off these nasty bugs. The gatorade works too but maybe 
not quite as well as DMSO. The downside is many folks can't deal with the taste 
and smell of DMSO. When I'm in pain and on the edge of getting strep I go for 
the cs/DMSO mixture.
Steve  


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Re: CSStrep virus--why do I still have it?

[sol]

Good question, wish I had thought of that.
sol

Dan Nave wrote:

Where is it?  


That will give you an indication of what you have to do to get the CS
to it.

Dan


RE: CSStrep virus--why do I still have it?

From: tlwidmer wrote: 
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 06:45:43 




Oops, you're right.  Still, why hasn't the CS gotten rid of it?

-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] 


Isn't strep a bacterium?
Ode

 

 




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Re: CSStrep virus--why do I still have it?

[Christine Carleton]

 From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
 For this type of diagnosis, I would go and get a blood test for
 strep, and not rely on muscle testing.

There are over 250,000 Kinesiology tests conducted by MD's. (Hawkins, D.,
MD, PhD.)  10,000¹s people have repeated the tests.  Some are still
sceptical because they have unbalanced 'issues' and biases in their belief
systems in their lives (energy systems) which may provide inconsistent
readings and influence the outcome.  You can do kinesiology at home and not
have to listen to the 'news' or a 'professional' do determine what is truth.

Some professionals have reached a plateau (after extensively exercising 
developing the Kinesiology muscle) that they rely upon it's accuracy.  Then
they know that it¹s important to share the information derived from the
tests and not to simply redo them.

There are degrees of Truth:
Truth is specific under specific conditions.
Only confront truth within a certain context.
Crossing from a more natural protocol to a pharma based protocol may produce
ambiguity - it's the clean water and oil/petro story - they do not mix well.

CS will help and probably more than less initially.   Also look to the
emotional, mental aspects that are out of line that have contributed to the
strep.  The human body functions in relationship, not exclusively.

Hint: Check the small intestine and heart (knowing and wisdom) because it
can be related to developing a higher level of propriety and order if one
releases nervousness, shock  excitement.  Also, the triple burner and
pericardium may be playing a role too.

Or ask your chiro for a referral to a BodyTalk practitioner who can 'tap
out' such a virus which will generally be gone in 24 hours.  ''

What benefits is the virus providing you?  Or alievating you from
participating in?  What's the thought pattern behind that?  If it didn't
provide a benefit, your body would not magnify and produce it for you.  Move
from the 'war' mentality to 'balancing relationships', and what the strep is
to share with you about your belief systems.

Christine

 Why not try much larger oral doses of CS? A pint to a quart or more
 per day?
 Deep seated hidden bacterial and viral and fungal infections are
 likely (my personal opinion) to require very large intakes of CS.
 I have arthritis, which may be due to some bacterial or other joint
 infections, and believe I have also leaky gut (due to candida most
 likely) and am currently trying to take in between a pint and a quart of
 CS daily. At some point if this high intake produces good results, I
 will post it here. So far so good---it does seem to be helping, I have
 less joint pain on the days when I drink more CS, and less GI problems
 on those days too.
 There is a large gap in recommended doses of CS. Some here believe
 the more the better, and others keep their intake to what I consider
 very small amounts. I'm not sure why, but for myself am going with the
 very large doses, for at least a few months, to see what happens. There
 have been reports here that small amounts taken over a period of years
 have dealt with deep seated infections, but I don't want to wait years.
 sol
 
 
 tlwid...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 Hello all--
 A question:  My chiropractor tells me I am carrying a strep virus,
 discovering this during a session of muscle testing. [initial test to see if
 my adrenal glands were working right.]  I have been regularly drinking 4 oz.
 of CS at 8 ppm.  I have upped this to 6 oz.  It's been several weeks and I
 am still testing positive, according to the muscle test.  Any thoughts about
 this?



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RE: CSStrep virus--why do I still have it?

[tlwidmer]

Thank you all, VERY much for your advice and suggestions: Dave, sol,
Richard, Steve, Christine  Ode.  I will follow up and try to get rid of
this.  Dave, in response to your question, when my chiropractor touches an
area around the middle of my collar bone, I am unable to resist the pressure
he is excerting on my arm.  Should I be applying CS  perhaps DMSO directly
to the site?  He tests several areas in one session.  Awhile back, when he
did this, he said I had a problem with my adrenial gland, put me on Standard
Process's Drenamin, and after a few more visits, I tested ok with my
adrenial gland.  My adjustments weren't holding, which led him to suspect
the adrenial gland wasn't doing it's job.  My adjustments still don't hold
well.  Oh well, what do I know?

Thank you everyone

Theresa

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From: Dan Nave [mailto:dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 9:28 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSStrep virus--why do I still have it?


Where is it?

That will give you an indication of what you have to do to get the CS
to it.

Dan



RE: CSStrep virus--why do I still have it?

From: tlwidmer wrote:
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 06:45:43




Oops, you're right.  Still, why hasn't the CS gotten rid of it?

-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net]

Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 7:47 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSStrep virus--why do I still have it?


 Isn't strep a bacterium?
Ode

At 12:01 AM 9/22/2004 -0500, you wrote:
Hello all--
  A question:  My chiropractor tells me I am carrying a strep virus,
discovering this during a session of muscle testing. [initial test to
see if
my adrenal glands were working right.]  I have been regularly drinking
4 oz.
of CS at 8 ppm.  I have upped this to 6 oz.  It's been several weeks
and I
am still testing positive, according to the muscle test.  Any thoughts
about
this?

Thanks
Theresa



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Re: CSStrep virus--why do I still have it?

[patriot2000]

At 09:55 AM 9/22/2004, you wrote:
 A question: My
chiropractor tells me I am carrying a strep virus,
discovering this during a session of muscle testing. [initial test to
see if
my adrenal glands were working right.] 
I have seen muscle testing done. It is impressive to watch, and
apparently can tell you IF a weakness or physical illness exists.
However, the person doing it said NOTHING about its ability to IDENTIFY a
particular bacterium or other CAUSE of the weakness or
illness. Educated guesses may be accurate, or
not. Perhaps, you could ask your allopathic physician to order up a
lab strep test to diagnose whether you actually have strep or not.
Then you can decide how to go about treating it if it exists -- up your
CS intake, divide doses, add another agent to it, etc.. 
I think my doc is pretty good at diagnosis of things caused by an
identifiable agent. Where we generally differ is on what to do
after the problem is identified!  ;-)
Marlys





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Re: CSStrep virus--why do I still have it?

[patriot2000]

At 09:55 AM 9/22/2004, you wrote:
The gatorade works too but maybe
not quite as well as DMSO. The downside is many folks can't deal with
the taste and smell of DMSO. 

Several months ago, when we were discussing the obnoxious taste of
Concentrace causing people like my husband to avoid taking it, some kind
soul wrote and suggested we take it by putting it in empty gelatin
capsules, available at a health food store or similar outlet. The
capsules are sold in several sizes. My spouse and I began using them, and
found it so easy, we have been using this method ever since, to the great
improvement of our health. I imagine DMSO can be taken the
same way. Just figure out how much a capsule holds and compare to
how many drops you wish to take, and make as many as needed at a time, to
be taken right away before they soften. No taste, no problem,
although the garlic breath odor will not be affected, as that comes from
the system after it has been absorbed. Just the two or three
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Re: CSStrep virus--why do I still have it?

[ESL555]

Great idea, the DMSO capsules.
Thanks
Steve


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Re: CSStrep virus--why do I still have it?

[Tony Moody]

Hi Theresa, 
Strep will often encapsulate itself in mucous. CS doesn't easily make 
its way through fats, oils or mucous. I have fixed my own sore 
throats using CS in the past not sure of exact protocol that I used.  
However gargling with salt water will liquify the mucous and then 
gargling with CS will clear some of the infection. I would also sip 
lemon juice too. Maybe on an hourly gargling cycle. Together with 
taking the CS. Your chiro might be able to tell you if you have a focus 
of infection. I suspect sinuses or a tooth. which may be what is 
stressing you and your system. Try to find that focus and fix that.
Be well,
Tony

On 22 Sep 2004 at 0:01, tlwid...@sbcglobal.net wrote:  

 Hello all--
   A question:  My chiropractor tells me I am carrying a strep virus,
 discovering this during a session of muscle testing. [initial test to
 see if my adrenal glands were working right.]  I have been regularly
 drinking 4 oz. of CS at 8 ppm.  I have upped this to 6 oz.  It's been
 several weeks and I am still testing positive, according to the muscle
 test.  Any thoughts about this?
 
 Thanks
 Theresa
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CSStrep virus--why do I still have it?

[tlwidmer]

Hello all--
  A question:  My chiropractor tells me I am carrying a strep virus,
discovering this during a session of muscle testing. [initial test to see if
my adrenal glands were working right.]  I have been regularly drinking 4 oz.
of CS at 8 ppm.  I have upped this to 6 oz.  It's been several weeks and I
am still testing positive, according to the muscle test.  Any thoughts about
this?

Thanks
Theresa
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