Re: CSblending versus juicing
Here is some interesting research comparing juicers (no info on blenders): http://www.hacres.com/pdf/documents/other-juice-extractor-comparison-2007.pdf -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
Re: CSblending versus juicing
Interesting, so far no evidence? I did some googling and found LOTS of claims. I did find a mention of evidence, so far can't find the source (see below). BTW the juice press looks interesting, I'm thinking of building one using a Harbor Freight $13 4 ton press. http://www.thejuicepress.co.uk/ *Jerome Bailey (a US chemist) found that using a combination of the Champion Juicer with a juice press the last 10% of the juice contained the highest levels of vitamins and minerals.* * * *It seems that the last ten percent of juice comes out with a far higher content than the first ten percent. Efficient pulping and pressing results in a higher percentage of nutrients being extracted (up to 30% more*), even if the quantity of juice extracted remains the same. * * * *Using a juice press with an electric juicer makes perfect sense for the most nutritious juice.* * * *Buy One Today!! http://www.thejuicepress.co.uk/ourshop/ * * * **Calcium data from 2.5 kg carrots* * * - * Champion Juicer 1458 mg* - * Champion Juicer + Press 2708 mg* -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
Re: CSblending versus juicing
I did another web search, found the following. It also does not specify the source of the info but it sounds like a report created by Norwalk Juicers: http://www.remedyspot.com/showthread.php/1209969-best-juicer-%28long-reply%29 *The Report, a comparison of the nutritional content of juice made from 5 pounds of identical carrots, parsley, and celery using a centrifugal juicer (like the Jack La Lanne), a macerating juicer (Champion is the best-known model), and the Norwalk, shows that pressing releases more juice and significantly more nutrients. In the carrot sample, juice from the centrifugal juicer contained 501 mg calcium, while the macerating juicer's juice contained 1458 mg calcium, and the Norwalk's juice contained 2708 mg calcium. For information about Norwalk juicers see geocities.com, nwjcal.com, or the manufacturer's website, norwalkjuicers.com. For the Norwalk Juicer Community, an online forum not affiliated with the manufacturer, see norwalkjuicer.com. New Norwalk juicers cost around $2,000, and reconditioned models sell for around $1200, more or less, as available. Reconditioned Norwalks are always in demand, so they sell quickly.* On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting, so far no evidence? I did some googling and found LOTS of claims. I did find a mention of evidence, so far can't find the source (see below). BTW the juice press looks interesting, I'm thinking of building one using a Harbor Freight $13 4 ton press. http://www.thejuicepress.co.uk/ *Jerome Bailey (a US chemist) found that using a combination of the Champion Juicer with a juice press the last 10% of the juice contained the highest levels of vitamins and minerals.* * * *It seems that the last ten percent of juice comes out with a far higher content than the first ten percent. Efficient pulping and pressingresults in a higher percentage of nutrients being extracted (up to 30% more*), even if the quantity of juice extracted remains the same. * * * *Using a juice press with an electric juicer makes perfect sense for the most nutritious juice.* * * *Buy One Today!! http://www.thejuicepress.co.uk/ourshop/ * * * **Calcium data from 2.5 kg carrots* * * - * Champion Juicer 1458 mg* - * Champion Juicer + Press 2708 mg* -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
Re: CSblending versus juicing
It would seem a good argument for adding some of the pulp back into the juice... along with slowing down the absorption of the sugars in the fruits/vegetables. PT From: Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, January 10, 2013 8:14:28 AM Subject: Re: CSblending versus juicing Interesting, so far no evidence? I did some googling and found LOTS of claims. I did find a mention of evidence, so far can't find the source (see below). BTW the juice press looks interesting, I'm thinking of building one using a Harbor Freight $13 4 ton press. http://www.thejuicepress.co.uk/ Jerome Bailey (a US chemist) found that using a combination of the Champion Juicer with a juice press the last 10% of the juice contained the highest levels of vitamins and minerals. It seems that the last ten percent of juice comes out with a far higher content than the first ten percent. Efficient pulping and pressingresults in a higher percentage of nutrients being extracted (up to 30% more*), even if the quantity of juice extracted remains the same. Using a juice presswith an electric juicer makes perfect sense for the most nutritious juice. Buy One Today!! *Calcium data from 2.5 kg carrots * Champion Juicer 1458 mg * Champion Juicer + Press 2708 mg -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
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An interesting point, altho many juicing advocates say the fast absorption of juice (only) can be an advantage when your goal is healing serious issues. -Alan On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:25 AM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: It would seem a good argument for adding some of the pulp back into the juice... along with slowing down the absorption of the sugars in the fruits/vegetables. PT -- *From:* Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thu, January 10, 2013 8:14:28 AM *Subject:* Re: CSblending versus juicing Interesting, so far no evidence? I did some googling and found LOTS of claims. I did find a mention of evidence, so far can't find the source (see below). BTW the juice press looks interesting, I'm thinking of building one using a Harbor Freight $13 4 ton press. http://www.thejuicepress.co.uk/ *Jerome Bailey (a US chemist) found that using a combination of the Champion Juicer with a juice press the last 10% of the juice contained the highest levels of vitamins and minerals.* * * *It seems that the last ten percent of juice comes out with a far higher content than the first ten percent. Efficient pulping and pressingresults in a higher percentage of nutrients being extracted (up to 30% more*), even if the quantity of juice extracted remains the same. * * * *Using a juice press with an electric juicer makes perfect sense for the most nutritious juice.* * * *Buy One Today!! http://www.thejuicepress.co.uk/ourshop/ * * * **Calcium data from 2.5 kg carrots* * * - * Champion Juicer 1458 mg* - * Champion Juicer + Press 2708 mg* -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
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I was able to track down more info on Mr. Bailey's research. The chart on the page below is VERY impressive, however given that Norwalk has a vested interest we must be skeptical: http://www.norwalkjuicers.com/nutrition On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting, so far no evidence? I did some googling and found LOTS of claims. I did find a mention of evidence, so far can't find the source (see below). BTW the juice press looks interesting, I'm thinking of building one using a Harbor Freight $13 4 ton press. http://www.thejuicepress.co.uk/ *Jerome Bailey (a US chemist) found that using a combination of the Champion Juicer with a juice press the last 10% of the juice contained the highest levels of vitamins and minerals.* * * *It seems that the last ten percent of juice comes out with a far higher content than the first ten percent. Efficient pulping and pressingresults in a higher percentage of nutrients being extracted (up to 30% more*), even if the quantity of juice extracted remains the same. * * * *Using a juice press with an electric juicer makes perfect sense for the most nutritious juice.* * * *Buy One Today!! http://www.thejuicepress.co.uk/ourshop/ * * * **Calcium data from 2.5 kg carrots* * * - * Champion Juicer 1458 mg* - * Champion Juicer + Press 2708 mg* -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
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Mini Beet Protocol ~ Robert Von http://robertvon.com/mbp.html Robert Von, a nutritionist seems to think juicing produces better results then blending. I have used his mini beet protocol, MBP, for about a year, and it does work well for health promoting, in myself it produced skin oil, that almost makes it impossible to break through when showering or shampooing, I hardly need a towel to dry, it does help with aging as well, and seems to give more energy, very anti candida as well, and not as fast acting as lufenuron or kerosene, albeit, I have not used another type of juicing. I know the russians and slovs used beet juice, both fermented and raw to cure cancer in many cases. It seems both work well. I do enjoy the flavor of fennel, refreshing and unusual taste. where I be in wes tex, fennel is more expensive then celery, so I alternate them in the mini beet formula. I have recommended the MBP to several folks and all seem to get good results. carrots come with sugar, but also with acidophiles for digestion, and beets are harvested in my area to make sugar as well as cattle feed. But glucose problems do not seem to be a problem using this juicing. I make enough juice at one sitting for morning and evening use, about twenty ounces, save half to take mornings, as I am usually pressed for time at that moment. I add some lemon juice to the recipe as citrus juice stops or slows break down of the juice. We can get a good education on juicers on utube, just go there and search for juicing, John will tell you all about them, as well as juicing. I have used the masticator, the single action, and the press, the press produces a nice tasting clean juice, and if you have lived greedily, it might be for you, otherwise I notice no diff with each one as to my health, so in my opinion there is more sales hype, then final results out there, Juicing in itself is not hype, it is well worth the time, energy and monies spent, GMO's should be totally avoided if that is possible, but growing up on a large farm and owning my own, modifying plants has been going on by monsanto for sixty or more years, so there may well be no way to knowingly avoid them, in america we are a profit motivated society at the costs of everything else, certainly to include health, as always buyer beware, david lubbock tx. On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com wrote: Assuming one can choose between GMO'd stuff and the real deal I'd say GMO'd *anything* should be left on the shelf g. I seriously doubt anyone knows with any certainty what one is eating or drinking today, GMO'd or otherwise? N. -- From: mutt...@isp.com To: kag...@cox.net; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSblending versus juicing Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 17:35:20 -0800 I would hope, for your sake, that you would leave all the GMO's at the store. - Original Message - *From:* kagi kag...@cox.net *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Friday, January 04, 2013 4:13 PM *Subject:* Re: CSblending versus juicing Should GMO food be blended, or juiced? Which is better? [image: Smile] *From:* Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com *Sent:* Friday, 04 January, 2013 16:39 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* CSblending versus juicing Apologies if this is too off topic or covered before. Is there any consensus in the blender versus juicing debate, wrt which one (a) damages nutrients less and (b) which results in the most absorb-able output? I read lots of claims both ways but I wonder if there is any real evidence supporting any of the claims? It seems logical to me that both do about the same amount of damage to the food, even the expensive juicers like a Norwalk, no? -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) wlEmoticon-smile[1].png
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OK, so you don't like the word extracted in this context. The blending process clearly destroys cell walls and separates a certain amount of the juice from the fiber. Depending on the type of blender, the type of fruit or vegetable, and the speed/time of blending, I imagine the percentage of separation could vary considerably. I wonder how it compares to juicing? Once consumed I would imagine your body would be able to absorb a certain amount of the liquid fairly quickly, much like pure juice is absorbed, then at some point the fiber would slow down absorption. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote: Hi Alan, The mechanics of blending don't 'extract' anything. It's all in there, bladed to liquid and then swallowed. Be well, Léna On Jan 4, 2013, at 9:12 PM, Alan Jones wrote: I also like to do both. BTW for blending I'm really referring to good blenders like Vitamix and Blendtec, which I'm thinking should be able to extract as much juice as a juicer, methinks -Alan On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Paul pste...@yahoo.com wrote: I do one of each every day :). -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
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Hi Alan, Exactly! You get everything but the seeds, stem, and label. I had a friend with cancer many years ago, and her community argued endlessly about various juicers, vortices, structure-altering, cell-damaging of various juicing or blending methods. I'm sure there's some solid science beneath all this, but I have a life that I've arduously recovered from my Lyme disease, and have settled on for what works for me. I feel like blending give me more of the whole food my body craves. I have noticed, however, that grape skins really hate to be liquified, and their tiny bits are unpleasantly noticeable in the blended results. Just be aware that the blenders will give you a thick puree of everything you put in, where a juicer will extract the juice only, and if you're concerned about what's lost in the pulp, you can feed it through again and again, but will be missing some of the beneficial fiber. Be well, Léna On Jan 5, 2013, at 11:00 AM, Alan Jones wrote: OK, so you don't like the word extracted in this context. The blending process clearly destroys cell walls and separates a certain amount of the juice from the fiber. Depending on the type of blender, the type of fruit or vegetable, and the speed/time of blending, I imagine the percentage of separation could vary considerably. I wonder how it compares to juicing? Once consumed I would imagine your body would be able to absorb a certain amount of the liquid fairly quickly, much like pure juice is absorbed, then at some point the fiber would slow down absorption. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote: Hi Alan, The mechanics of blending don't 'extract' anything. It's all in there, bladed to liquid and then swallowed. Be well, Léna On Jan 4, 2013, at 9:12 PM, Alan Jones wrote: I also like to do both. BTW for blending I'm really referring to good blenders like Vitamix and Blendtec, which I'm thinking should be able to extract as much juice as a juicer, methinks -Alan On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Paul pste...@yahoo.com wrote: I do one of each every day :). -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
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Great thread, folks! Hadn't heard of the Nutribullet. My Magic Bullet gets a workout for my morning smoothie using various powders from the health-food store, but my second set of blades is nearing the wear-out stage and it might be approaching time to retire it altogether. What sort of veggie/fruit smoothie blends do you use, and do any of them rise to the level where you might call the results delicious? I ask since even adding a few greens to my juicing tends to yield a very strong and unpleasant tasting brew, in my limited experience... Be well! Mike D. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I do green smoothies that I find quite palatable but others might not. Spinach is a perfect green to start with, very nutritious and very mild tasting. Later try the kales, parsley and collard greens. When starting, use as much fruit as you need to much it drinkable. Here is what I typically use in my Blendtec blender: - 10oz water - quarter pound of spinach (this is quite a bit!) - blend on 4 until greens pretty well liquified - add one cup frozen berries - add a banana or mangoes or apple or other sweetening fruit - add supplements (fish oil, lecithin, any powdered vitamins/minerals) - can also add stevia for more sweetness as needed - blend and drink -- I have some HUGE thick straws which are perfect which I found on the web -Alan On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 10:53 AM, M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com wrote: Great thread, folks! Hadn't heard of the Nutribullet. My Magic Bullet gets a workout for my morning smoothie using various powders from the health-food store, but my second set of blades is nearing the wear-out stage and it might be approaching time to retire it altogether. What sort of veggie/fruit smoothie blends do you use, and do any of them rise to the level where you might call the results delicious? I ask since even adding a few greens to my juicing tends to yield a very strong and unpleasant tasting brew, in my limited experience... Be well! Mike D. -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
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(ack, change to much is drinkable to to make it drinkable...) On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote: I do green smoothies that I find quite palatable but others might not. Spinach is a perfect green to start with, very nutritious and very mild tasting. Later try the kales, parsley and collard greens. When starting, use as much fruit as you need *to make it drinkable*. Here is what I typically use in my Blendtec blender: - 10oz water - quarter pound of spinach (this is quite a bit!) - blend on 4 until greens pretty well liquified - add one cup frozen berries - add a banana or mangoes or apple or other sweetening fruit - add supplements (fish oil, lecithin, any powdered vitamins/minerals) - can also add stevia for more sweetness as needed - blend and drink -- I have some HUGE thick straws which are perfect which I found on the web -Alan On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 10:53 AM, M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com wrote: Great thread, folks! Hadn't heard of the Nutribullet. My Magic Bullet gets a workout for my morning smoothie using various powders from the health-food store, but my second set of blades is nearing the wear-out stage and it might be approaching time to retire it altogether. What sort of veggie/fruit smoothie blends do you use, and do any of them rise to the level where you might call the results delicious? I ask since even adding a few greens to my juicing tends to yield a very strong and unpleasant tasting brew, in my limited experience... Be well! Mike D. -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
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My personal, routine favorites are home-made kefir/banana with supplements, and later in the day, spinach/pear, thinned with a bit of organic apple juice. Be well, Léna On Jan 5, 2013, at 11:53 AM, M.G. Devour wrote: Great thread, folks! Hadn't heard of the Nutribullet. My Magic Bullet gets a workout for my morning smoothie using various powders from the health-food store, but my second set of blades is nearing the wear-out stage and it might be approaching time to retire it altogether. What sort of veggie/fruit smoothie blends do you use, and do any of them rise to the level where you might call the results delicious? I ask since even adding a few greens to my juicing tends to yield a very strong and unpleasant tasting brew, in my limited experience... Be well! Mike D. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Mike wrote: What sort of veggie/fruit smoothie blends do you use, and do any of them rise to the level where you might call the results delicious? I ask since even adding a few greens to my juicing tends to yield a very strong and unpleasant tasting brew, in my limited experience... -- I blend the entire vegetable in my Vita Mix rather than extract juice, because the fiber cleans out the colon really well and has a host of other benefits besides. Victoria Boutenka writes about this extensively. Green for Life summarizes the benefits of blended drinks very well, and has recipes in the back. So do many of her other books. As for recipes: I very rarely eat fruit, because my body mostly doesn't do well with even small amounts of fructose. However, here's a dynamite green drink recipe I developed, which I drink almost every day: + 1 large cucumber + 5-8 lettuce leaves-I use Romaine, but you can use Mesclun too + juice and pulp of one whole lemon + 1 TBS apple cider vinegar + several stalks of celery + handful of cilantro + 1-2 cloves of garlic + 1 whole spring (green) onions + 1 tsp wheat-free soy sauce (tamari), or more to taste (but you don't need much + optional: tiny bit of jalapeno pepper + optional: 1 tsp or more of umeboshi plum paste. The soy sauce gives this a really nice flavor. You can water this down to make a refreshing drink, or make it so thick that it's like a salad dressing or dip. You can add an avocado to it, but only if you're having it right away, as avocados tend to degrade quickly. By the way, I never eat kale raw and hence never use it in blended drinks, because cruciferous veggies such as kale tend to slow thyroid function. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011) Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification www.nenahsylver.com http://www.nenahsylver.com/ ; www.rifehandbook.com http://www.rifehandbook.com/
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I do one of each every day :). Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote: Apologies if this is too off topic or covered before. Is there any consensus in the blender versus juicing debate, wrt which one (a) damages nutrients less and (b) which results in the most absorb-able output? I read lots of claims both ways but I wonder if there is any real evidence supporting any of the claims? It seems logical to me that both do about the same amount of damage to the food, even the expensive juicers like a Norwalk, no? -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I have a blendtec and a vitamix and recently got the nutribullet at 1/4 of the cost of the others and love it for smoothies. Just an FYI Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 6:29 PM, Paul pste...@yahoo.com wrote: I do one of each every day :). Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote: Apologies if this is too off topic or covered before. Is there any consensus in the blender versus juicing debate, wrt which one (a) damages nutrients less and (b) which results in the most absorb-able output? I read lots of claims both ways but I wonder if there is any real evidence supporting any of the claims? It seems logical to me that both do about the same amount of damage to the food, even the expensive juicers like a Norwalk, no? -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Should GMO food be blended, or juiced? Which is better? From: Alan Jones Sent: Friday, 04 January, 2013 16:39 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSblending versus juicing Apologies if this is too off topic or covered before. Is there any consensus in the blender versus juicing debate, wrt which one (a) damages nutrients less and (b) which results in the most absorb-able output? I read lots of claims both ways but I wonder if there is any real evidence supporting any of the claims? It seems logical to me that both do about the same amount of damage to the food, even the expensive juicers like a Norwalk, no? -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) wlEmoticon-smile[1].png
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I've retired my Champion juicer! Even with feeding the pulp through several times, I know there was loss of nutrients by that method. Unable to afford a Vitamix, I'm making smoothies and juices with my Nutribullet (not to be confused with less powerful MagicBullet) and have increased my organic raw-veggie/fruit intake to a much higher level. The convenience of this helped compliance. Compliance is a factor to be considered. The Champion was such a pain to clean that it languished on my counter, unused, a lot. The Nutribullet gets used several times a day. Even some of my Vitamix friends prefer the Nutribullet for easy use. No, I don't have any commercial, vested interest in this product and I don't know how durable it will be, long-term, but it's performed well for almost 8 months. Be well, Léna On Jan 4, 2013, at 6:29 PM, Paul wrote: I do one of each every day :). Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote: Apologies if this is too off topic or covered before. Is there any consensus in the blender versus juicing debate, wrt which one (a) damages nutrients less and (b) which results in the most absorb-able output? I read lots of claims both ways but I wonder if there is any real evidence supporting any of the claims? It seems logical to me that both do about the same amount of damage to the food, even the expensive juicers like a Norwalk, no? -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I would hope, for your sake, that you would leave all the GMO's at the store. - Original Message - From: kagi To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 4:13 PM Subject: Re: CSblending versus juicing Should GMO food be blended, or juiced? Which is better? From: Alan Jones Sent: Friday, 04 January, 2013 16:39 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSblending versus juicing Apologies if this is too off topic or covered before. Is there any consensus in the blender versus juicing debate, wrt which one (a) damages nutrients less and (b) which results in the most absorb-able output? I read lots of claims both ways but I wonder if there is any real evidence supporting any of the claims? It seems logical to me that both do about the same amount of damage to the food, even the expensive juicers like a Norwalk, no? -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) wlEmoticon-smile[1].png
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I'm just curious, Lena. How do you KNOW there was a loss of nutrients? Seems like to accurately assess such a thing would require some sophisticated equipment capable of determining nutrients before and after juicing. I imagine that technically it is impossible to only remove pulp without losing some of the good stuff, so I can easily believe your assertion. But couldn't one just juice more of whatever it is from which you want to derive nutrients? I'm not a juicer nor a blender, so I have no bias and no particular interest other than curiosity. Steve --- On Fri, 1/4/13, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote: From: Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com Subject: CSRe: CSblending versus juicing: my 2¢ To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, January 4, 2013, 7:29 PM I've retired my Champion juicer! Even with feeding the pulp through several times, I know there was loss of nutrients by that method. Unable to afford a Vitamix, I'm making smoothies and juices with my Nutribullet (not to be confused with less powerful MagicBullet) and have increased my organic raw-veggie/fruit intake to a much higher level. The convenience of this helped compliance. Compliance is a factor to be considered. The Champion was such a pain to clean that it languished on my counter, unused, a lot. The Nutribullet gets used several times a day. Even some of my Vitamix friends prefer the Nutribullet for easy use. No, I don't have any commercial, vested interest in this product and I don't know how durable it will be, long-term, but it's performed well for almost 8 months. Be well,Léna On Jan 4, 2013, at 6:29 PM, Paul wrote: I do one of each every day :). Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote: Apologies if this is too off topic or covered before. Is there any consensus in the blender versus juicing debate, wrt which one (a) damages nutrients less and (b) which results in the most absorb-able output? I read lots of claims both ways but I wonder if there is any real evidence supporting any of the claims? It seems logical to me that both do about the same amount of damage to the food, even the expensive juicers like a Norwalk, no? -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSblending versus juicing
I also like to do both. BTW for blending I'm really referring to good blenders like Vitamix and Blendtec, which I'm thinking should be able to extract as much juice as a juicer, methinks -Alan On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Paul pste...@yahoo.com wrote: I do one of each every day :). -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
Re: CSblending versus juicing
Well Im not sure how you would remove the pulp :) IMO the blendtec is better the vitamix. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 9:12 PM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote: I also like to do both. BTW for blending I'm really referring to good blenders like Vitamix and Blendtec, which I'm thinking should be able to extract as much juice as a juicer, methinks -Alan On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Paul pste...@yahoo.com wrote: I do one of each every day :). -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
Re: CSblending versus juicing
Hi Alan, The mechanics of blending don't 'extract' anything. It's all in there, bladed to liquid and then swallowed. Be well, Léna On Jan 4, 2013, at 9:12 PM, Alan Jones wrote: I also like to do both. BTW for blending I'm really referring to good blenders like Vitamix and Blendtec, which I'm thinking should be able to extract as much juice as a juicer, methinks -Alan On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Paul pste...@yahoo.com wrote: I do one of each every day :). -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
RE: CSblending versus juicing
Assuming one can choose between GMO'd stuff and the real deal I'd say GMO'd *anything* should be left on the shelf g. I seriously doubt anyone knows with any certainty what one is eating or drinking today, GMO'd or otherwise? N. From: mutt...@isp.com To: kag...@cox.net; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSblending versus juicing Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 17:35:20 -0800 I would hope, for your sake, that you would leave all the GMO's at the store. - Original Message - From: kagi To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 4:13 PM Subject: Re: CSblending versus juicing Should GMO food be blended, or juiced? Which is better? From: Alan Jones Sent: Friday, 04 January, 2013 16:39 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSblending versus juicing Apologies if this is too off topic or covered before. Is there any consensus in the blender versus juicing debate, wrt which one (a) damages nutrients less and (b) which results in the most absorb-able output? I read lots of claims both ways but I wonder if there is any real evidence supporting any of the claims? It seems logical to me that both do about the same amount of damage to the food, even the expensive juicers like a Norwalk, no? -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)attachment: wlEmoticon-smile[1].png
