Did-Covid-jab-make-famous-doctors-cancer-WORSE.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11266837/Did-Covid-jab-make-famous-doctors-cancer-WORSE.html
400 Doctors and Professionals Declare International Medical Crisis Due to Covid Vaccine Injuries and Deaths
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America's Frontline Doctors Confirm: Vaccine-Related AIDS Will Hit MILLIONS By Fall
Any trials using CS? https://welovetrump.com/2022/03/23/americas-frontline-doctors-confirm-vaccine-related-aids-will-hit-millions-by-fall/ The truth is like a lion; you don’t have to defend it. Let it loose and it will defend itself” - Saint Augustine.
Australian-health-authorities-are silencing-doctors-in-the-COVID Pandemic
https://mercatornet.com/why-are-australian-health-authorities-silencing-doctors-in-the-pandemic/74419/
Re: CS>Dr. Ardis interviews Dr. Simone Gold, MD - Founder of America's Frontline Doctors
Maybe it should be, *Let's Go, Karen. !* On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 3:45 PM T. J. Garland wrote: > Every site you quote is ultra liberal. > You have no original thoughts. You are a gov mouthpiece. > You need to shut the fuk up. We laugh at your moronic ravings. > My health is none of your business. > If you are alive by Christmas, I will email you a nice card. > > OTOH— I see you as my daily comedy break. > > *Let’s go Brandon! * > > On Oct 21, 2021, at 6:10 PM, Cyndiann Phillips wrote: > > > > https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/09/14/1035915598/doctors-covid-misinformation-medical-license > > This Doctor Spread False Information About COVID. She Still Kept Her > Medical License > > Last month, Dr. Simone Gold stood before a crowd at a conservative church > in Thousand Oaks, Calif., and delivered a talk riddled with misinformation. > She told people to avoid vaccination against the coronavirus. As an > alternative, she pushed drugs that have not been proven effective at > treating COVID-19 — drugs that she also offered to prescribe to the > audience in exchange for $90 telehealth appointments. > > "Don't text me when you've gotten a positive test; I don't want to hear > it," she said to the gathering. "I've told you ahead of time to get the > medicines. It can take a week because we're so swamped." > > Almost everything Gold said in her 45-minute talk was contrary to the > best science and medical standards > <https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/your-health/index.html> of > care for treating COVID-19. But there was one thing she said that was at > least partially true: "I am an emergency physician." > > NPR found that Gold's emergency medicine certification lapsed in December > of last year, but she still is, as she claims, a licensed physician in the > state of California (her license lists her professional address as a UPS > shipping store in Beverly Hills). > > Despite more than a year spent spreading misinformation about a pandemic > that has killed more than 650,000 Americans > <https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/09/01/816707182/map-tracking-the-spread-of-the-coronavirus-in-the-u-s>, > she has what might be considered a professional clean bill of health with > no complaints, disciplinary actions or malpractice lawsuits on her record. > The California Medical Board, which oversees her license, told NPR it > expects doctors to "follow the standard of care when treating patients at > all times." But the medical board declined to say whether it was > investigating Gold, citing reasons of confidentiality. > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 5:55 PM T. J. Garland > wrote: > >> >> https://rumble.com/vn4425-dr.-ardis-interviews-dr.-simone-gold.html >> >> >> *Let’s go Brandon! * >> >
Re: CS>Dr. Ardis interviews Dr. Simone Gold, MD - Founder of America's Frontline Doctors
Michigan Woman Died From Blood Clots After J&J Vaccine, Autopsy Confirms | | | | | | | | | | | Michigan Woman Died From Blood Clots After J&J Vaccine, Autopsy Confirms A Michigan pathologist confirmed 60-year-old Sandra Jacobs died from cerebral venous sinus thrombosis, a rare bl... | | | Both the left and the right have the same goal...MAKE AMERICA DEAD BY 2024!!! On Thursday, October 21, 2021, 05:55:52 PM EDT, T. J. Garland wrote: https://rumble.com/vn4425-dr.-ardis-interviews-dr.-simone-gold.html Let’s go Brandon!
Re: CS>Dr. Ardis interviews Dr. Simone Gold, MD - Founder of America's Frontline Doctors
Every site you quote is ultra liberal. You have no original thoughts. You are a gov mouthpiece. You need to shut the fuk up. We laugh at your moronic ravings. My health is none of your business. If you are alive by Christmas, I will email you a nice card. OTOH— I see you as my daily comedy break. Let’s go Brandon! > On Oct 21, 2021, at 6:10 PM, Cyndiann Phillips wrote: > > > https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/09/14/1035915598/doctors-covid-misinformation-medical-license > > This Doctor Spread False Information About COVID. She Still Kept Her Medical > License > > Last month, Dr. Simone Gold stood before a crowd at a conservative church in > Thousand Oaks, Calif., and delivered a talk riddled with misinformation. She > told people to avoid vaccination against the coronavirus. As an alternative, > she pushed drugs that have not been proven effective at treating COVID-19 — > drugs that she also offered to prescribe to the audience in exchange for $90 > telehealth appointments. > > "Don't text me when you've gotten a positive test; I don't want to hear it," > she said to the gathering. "I've told you ahead of time to get the medicines. > It can take a week because we're so swamped." > > Almost everything Gold said in her 45-minute talk was contrary to the best > science and medical standards of care for treating COVID-19. But there was > one thing she said that was at least partially true: "I am an emergency > physician." > > NPR found that Gold's emergency medicine certification lapsed in December of > last year, but she still is, as she claims, a licensed physician in the state > of California (her license lists her professional address as a UPS shipping > store in Beverly Hills). > > Despite more than a year spent spreading misinformation about a pandemic that > has killed more than 650,000 Americans, she has what might be considered a > professional clean bill of health with no complaints, disciplinary actions or > malpractice lawsuits on her record. The California Medical Board, which > oversees her license, told NPR it expects doctors to "follow the standard of > care when treating patients at all times." But the medical board declined to > say whether it was investigating Gold, citing reasons of confidentiality. > > >> On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 5:55 PM T. J. Garland wrote: >> >> https://rumble.com/vn4425-dr.-ardis-interviews-dr.-simone-gold.html >> >> >> Let’s go Brandon!
Re: CS>Dr. Ardis interviews Dr. Simone Gold, MD - Founder of America's Frontline Doctors
Laughing so Damn I can't respond Sindy! On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 6:10 PM Cyndiann Phillips wrote: > > https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/09/14/1035915598/doctors-covid-misinformation-medical-license > > This Doctor Spread False Information About COVID. She Still Kept Her > Medical License > > Last month, Dr. Simone Gold stood before a crowd at a conservative church > in Thousand Oaks, Calif., and delivered a talk riddled with misinformation. > She told people to avoid vaccination against the coronavirus. As an > alternative, she pushed drugs that have not been proven effective at > treating COVID-19 — drugs that she also offered to prescribe to the > audience in exchange for $90 telehealth appointments. > > "Don't text me when you've gotten a positive test; I don't want to hear > it," she said to the gathering. "I've told you ahead of time to get the > medicines. It can take a week because we're so swamped." > > Almost everything Gold said in her 45-minute talk was contrary to the > best science and medical standards > <https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/your-health/index.html> of > care for treating COVID-19. But there was one thing she said that was at > least partially true: "I am an emergency physician." > > NPR found that Gold's emergency medicine certification lapsed in December > of last year, but she still is, as she claims, a licensed physician in the > state of California (her license lists her professional address as a UPS > shipping store in Beverly Hills). > > Despite more than a year spent spreading misinformation about a pandemic > that has killed more than 650,000 Americans > <https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/09/01/816707182/map-tracking-the-spread-of-the-coronavirus-in-the-u-s>, > she has what might be considered a professional clean bill of health with > no complaints, disciplinary actions or malpractice lawsuits on her record. > The California Medical Board, which oversees her license, told NPR it > expects doctors to "follow the standard of care when treating patients at > all times." But the medical board declined to say whether it was > investigating Gold, citing reasons of confidentiality. > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 5:55 PM T. J. Garland > wrote: > >> >> https://rumble.com/vn4425-dr.-ardis-interviews-dr.-simone-gold.html >> >> >> *Let’s go Brandon! * >> >
Re: CS>Dr. Ardis interviews Dr. Simone Gold, MD - Founder of America's Frontline Doctors
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/09/14/1035915598/doctors-covid-misinformation-medical-license This Doctor Spread False Information About COVID. She Still Kept Her Medical License Last month, Dr. Simone Gold stood before a crowd at a conservative church in Thousand Oaks, Calif., and delivered a talk riddled with misinformation. She told people to avoid vaccination against the coronavirus. As an alternative, she pushed drugs that have not been proven effective at treating COVID-19 — drugs that she also offered to prescribe to the audience in exchange for $90 telehealth appointments. "Don't text me when you've gotten a positive test; I don't want to hear it," she said to the gathering. "I've told you ahead of time to get the medicines. It can take a week because we're so swamped." Almost everything Gold said in her 45-minute talk was contrary to the best science and medical standards <https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/your-health/index.html> of care for treating COVID-19. But there was one thing she said that was at least partially true: "I am an emergency physician." NPR found that Gold's emergency medicine certification lapsed in December of last year, but she still is, as she claims, a licensed physician in the state of California (her license lists her professional address as a UPS shipping store in Beverly Hills). Despite more than a year spent spreading misinformation about a pandemic that has killed more than 650,000 Americans <https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/09/01/816707182/map-tracking-the-spread-of-the-coronavirus-in-the-u-s>, she has what might be considered a professional clean bill of health with no complaints, disciplinary actions or malpractice lawsuits on her record. The California Medical Board, which oversees her license, told NPR it expects doctors to "follow the standard of care when treating patients at all times." But the medical board declined to say whether it was investigating Gold, citing reasons of confidentiality. On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 5:55 PM T. J. Garland wrote: > > https://rumble.com/vn4425-dr.-ardis-interviews-dr.-simone-gold.html > > > *Let’s go Brandon! * >
CS>Dr. Ardis interviews Dr. Simone Gold, MD - Founder of America's Frontline Doctors
https://rumble.com/vn4425-dr.-ardis-interviews-dr.-simone-gold.html Let’s go Brandon!
CS>US Doctors cured 100's Covid patients w. HCQ, sues CNN-Andersen-Cooper-100-mill-DEFIMATION
CNN and their nightly propagandist, Anderson Cooper, spent tremendous amounts of time and energy attacking the science on Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) and demeaning doctors who cured every single one of their patients using HCQ in their treatment protocols. Instead of being labeled “anti-science” or “anti-immunity,” CNN continued to mock HCQ and slander doctors who helped their patients recover and achieve natural immunity. Instead of being called out as vile and unempathetic, Andersen Cooper was patted on the back for suppressing treatments, putting patients at risk and mocking doctors who saved lives. | | | | | | | | | | | Doctor who cured 350 coronavirus patients with 100% success rate speaks ... Dr. Stella Immanuel of the Rehoboth Medical Center in Houston, Texas went viral in a matter of hours after appea... | | | https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-08-03-cnn-andersen-cooper-100-million-defamation-suit.html
RE: CS>Over 3,000 Doctors and Scientists Sign Declaration Accusing COVID Policy-Makers of ‘Crimes Against Humanity’ › American Greatness
hyperlink, pleaseplease. From: "T. J. Garland" Date: Sat, Sep 25, 2021 7:50 am To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Over 3,000 Doctors and Scientists Sign Declaration Accusing COVID Policy-Makers of ‘Crimes Against Humanity’ › American Greatness https://amgreatness.com/2021/09/24/over-3000-doctors-and-scientists-sign-declaration-accusing-covid-policy-makers-of-crimes-against-humanity/ Now we can use Ivermectin instead of regular flu shots. Anon
CS>Over 3,000 Doctors and Scientists Sign Declaration Accusing COVID Policy-Makers of ‘Crimes Against Humanity’ › American Greatness
https://amgreatness.com/2021/09/24/over-3000-doctors-and-scientists-sign-declaration-accusing-covid-policy-makers-of-crimes-against-humanity/ Now we can use Ivermectin instead of regular flu shots. Anon
CS>** Doctors prevented from healing Covid patients
Many Americans think that if the official narrative was not true, doctors would not go along with it. They believe this, because they mistakenly think that doctors are independent and in charge. As Dr. Ted Noel explains <https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/09/no_author/why-do-doctors-go-along-with-covid-panic-porn-and-cdc-prescriptions/>, that is not the case. Fewer doctors are in independent practice. Most are employees of hospitals, large corporate practices, and clinics run by managers. These “health care providers” are run according to protocols handed down by NIH, CDC, FDA, WHO, and the American Medical Association, all of whom are influenced by Big Pharma. The protocol for Covid treatment has been to deny treatment until the patient becomes ill in a life-threatening way and checks into a hospital. Inside the hospital the protocol is to deny patients safe and effective treatments with HCQ and Ivermectin. Many patients end up dead on ventilators. The Covid protocol demonizes the known and safe treatments and does its best to prevent their use by private practices. According to reports, large pharmacy chains such as Walgreen and CVS refuse to fill doctor’s prescriptions for HCQ and Ivermectin for Covid treatment. Doctors who prescribe these cures are threatened by their medical associations with loss of medical license.
Re: CS>Why Doctors Are Going Along With The Fauci Fraud
Foreign workers could replace NY’s unvaccinated hospital, nursing home staffers: Hochul | | | | | | | | | | | Foreign workers could replace NY’s unvaccinated hospital, nursing home s... The nearly 20 percent of workers at hospitals and nursing homes who refuse to get vaccinated against COVID-19 wi... | | | On Thursday, September 23, 2021, 03:23:29 PM EDT, Rick wrote: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/09/why_do_doctors_go_along_with_covid_panic_porn_and_cdc_prescriptions.html
CS>Why Doctors Are Going Along With The Fauci Fraud
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/09/why_do_doctors_go_along_with_covid_panic_porn_and_cdc_prescriptions.html
CS>COVID-19 Doctors Directory
https://www.exstnc.com/ Your mask is as useful as Biden. Anon
CS>AMA Propaganda Handbook EXPOSED! Doctors Brainwashing "Pandemic" and "Vaccine" Language
https://rumble.com/vlypbf-ama-propaganda-handbook-exposed-doctors-brainwashing-pandemic-and-vaccine-l.html Your mask is as useful as Biden. Anon
CS>Germany 56,000 Local Doctors in VAX Campaign -- 23,000 have quit, refuse to VAX patients
German: https://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article233146801/Impfkampagne-Mehr-als-23-000-Aerzte-sind-ausgestiegen.html English:More Than 23,000 German Doctors Have Quit the Genocide Campaign - Truth Comes to Light | | | | | | | | | | | More Than 23,000 German Doctors Have Quit the Genocide Campaign - Truth ... More Than 23,000 German Doctors Have Quit the Genocide Campaign by Europe Reloaded, article source 9forNews Augu... | | |
CS>GREAT RESET: GET YOUR MONEY OUT OF THE BANK! MASSIVE ECONOMIC RESET COMING SOON! – Silver Doctors
https://www.silverdoctors.com/headlines/world-news/great-reset-get-your-money-out-of-the-bank-massive-economic-reset-coming-soon/ The microbe is nothing. The terrain is everything. Louis Pasteur
Re: CS>How People Survive (Or Not) in a Collapsed Economy – Silver Doctors
Graphene Oxide: The Actual Contents Inside Pfizer Vials Exposed! - Global Research | | | | | | | | | | | Graphene Oxide: The Actual Contents Inside Pfizer Vials Exposed! - Globa... All Global Research articles can be read in 51 languages by activating the “Translate Website” drop down menu on... | | | On Thursday, July 8, 2021, 10:48:55 AM EDT, Gmail wrote: https://www.silverdoctors.com/headlines/world-news/how-people-survive-or-not-in-a-collapsed-economy/ 'We are reduced to the alternative of choosing an unconditional submission to the tyranny of irritable ministers, or resistance by force. The latter is our choice. We have counted the cost of this contest, and find nothing so dreadful as voluntary slavery.' -Thomas Jefferson
Re: CS>How People Survive (Or Not) in a Collapsed Economy – Silver Doctors
https://freewestmedia.com/2021/06/27/surgeon-who-operated-on-young-italian-vaccine-victim-you-have-never-seen-anything-like-this/ On Thursday, July 8, 2021, 10:48:55 AM EDT, Gmail wrote: https://www.silverdoctors.com/headlines/world-news/how-people-survive-or-not-in-a-collapsed-economy/ 'We are reduced to the alternative of choosing an unconditional submission to the tyranny of irritable ministers, or resistance by force. The latter is our choice. We have counted the cost of this contest, and find nothing so dreadful as voluntary slavery.' -Thomas Jefferson
CS>How People Survive (Or Not) in a Collapsed Economy – Silver Doctors
https://www.silverdoctors.com/headlines/world-news/how-people-survive-or-not-in-a-collapsed-economy/ 'We are reduced to the alternative of choosing an unconditional submission to the tyranny of irritable ministers, or resistance by force. The latter is our choice. We have counted the cost of this contest, and find nothing so dreadful as voluntary slavery.' -Thomas Jefferson
CS>have a look at this -- a brain scan is not generally viewed by psychiatric doctors -- WHY?
The most important lesson from 83,000 brain scans | Daniel Amen | TEDxOrangeCoast | | | | | | | | | | | The most important lesson from 83,000 brain scans | Daniel Amen | TEDxOr... | | |
Re: CS>IT'S WORSE THAN WE THOUGHT! Fauci and Top US Doctors Caught! They CONSPIRED to Disqualify Hydroxychloroquine as COVID Treatment -- MILLIONS DEAD AS A RESULT
WELL SAIDOn Saturday, June 12, 2021, 06:02:35 PM EDT, Gmail wrote: You lie Osborne. You need to go to jail https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/worse-thought-fauci-top-us-doctors-caught-conspired-disquality-hydroxychloroquine-covid-treatment-millions-dead-result/ This is the way the world ends: not with a bang, but with a whimper.T.S. Eliot
Re: CS>IT'S WORSE THAN WE THOUGHT! Fauci and Top US Doctors Caught! They CONSPIRED to Disqualify Hydroxychloroquine as COVID Treatment -- MILLIONS DEAD AS A RESULT
I do? Who are you? James Osbourne Holmes a/k/a *Red Pill Media* American State National On Sat, Jun 12, 2021 at 4:02 PM Gmail wrote: > You lie Osborne. You need to go to jail > > https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/worse-thought-fauci-top-us-doctors-caught-conspired-disquality-hydroxychloroquine-covid-treatment-millions-dead-result/ > > > This is the way the world ends: not with a bang, but with a whimper. > T.S. Eliot > > > > > > > >
CS>IT'S WORSE THAN WE THOUGHT! Fauci and Top US Doctors Caught! They CONSPIRED to Disqualify Hydroxychloroquine as COVID Treatment -- MILLIONS DEAD AS A RESULT
You lie Osborne. You need to go to jail https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/worse-thought-fauci-top-us-doctors-caught-conspired-disquality-hydroxychloroquine-covid-treatment-millions-dead-result/ This is the way the world ends: not with a bang, but with a whimper. T.S. Eliot
CS>Open letter from Doctors/Scientists to EU Medicines Agency regarding COVID-19 vaccine safety concerns
Open letter from Doctors and Scientists to the European Medicines Agency regarding COVID-19 vaccine safety concerns https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/cy/request/open_letter_from_doctors_and_sci?unfold=1
CS>Re: CS>Colloidal Silver Made With Ghanera Extract Has Anticancer And Antimicrobial Potential – Study | Silver Doctors
If you don't write some kind of message with a link you send, the message goes straight into the spam box on many email servers. Just a heads up to those that send links with no message. On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 5:52 AM Gmail wrote: > > > https://www.silverdoctors.com/silver/silver-news/colloidal-silver-made-with-ghanera-extract-has-anticancer-and-antimicrobial-potential-study/ > > > Mueller time is over; time to pay the Barr tab.” Bumper sticker > > > >
Re: CS>Colloidal Silver Made With Ghanera Extract Has Anticancer And Antimicrobial Potential – Study | Silver Doctors
I wonder if this is something we can use in our preparations of EIS?PT On Friday, May 24, 2019, 8:52:09 AM EDT, Gmail wrote: https://www.silverdoctors.com/silver/silver-news/colloidal-silver-made-with-ghanera-extract-has-anticancer-and-antimicrobial-potential-study/ Mueller time is over; time to pay the Barr tab.” Bumper sticker
CS>Colloidal Silver Made With Ghanera Extract Has Anticancer And Antimicrobial Potential – Study | Silver Doctors
https://www.silverdoctors.com/silver/silver-news/colloidal-silver-made-with-ghanera-extract-has-anticancer-and-antimicrobial-potential-study/ Mueller time is over; time to pay the Barr tab.” Bumper sticker
Re: CS>Mexican Bliss: Tequila Maker In Mexico Filters Its Water Using Silver | Silver Doctors
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Maker In Mexico Filters Its Water Using Silver | Silver Doctors
https://www.silverdoctors.com/silver/silver-news/mexican-bliss-tequila-maker-in-mexico-filters-its-water-using-silver/
Mexican Bliss: Tequila Maker In Mexico Filters Its Water Using Silver
July 1, 2018 854
It’s almost like a match made in heaven for aficionados of both Tequila and
silver. Here’s the details…
from The Silver Institute
Stoli Group USA’s Cenote Tequila, is filtering its water used for tequila
through silver ions.
In a recent on-line interview, master distiller Arturo Fuente discussed the
company’s Cenote brand and his job as distiller. He noted: “We play a key role
in overseeing the entire process to ensure no mistakes are made that could
cause contamination to the spirit. It is our job to make sure we’re placing the
best liquid into the barrels to rest. We pay close attention to the details
that others might not have the time for… Our water is sourced from an artesian
well located at our distillery (Fabrica de Tequila Finos), which sits at the
base of the Jalisco volcano. The water goes through reverse osmosis and carbon
filters with silver ions to eliminate any chance of impurities.”
Cenote tequila is not the only spirit-maker to use silver ions to purify water.
Golia vodka, produced from Mongolian wheat and water from the Khuiten Peak, is
distilled at least six times through silver and platinum filters to remove any
impurities. (See New Mongolian Vodka Distilled Through Silver Filters,
February, 2014 Silver News). Other vodka makers including Silver Dollar,
Fortuna and Kvint also pass water through silver filtration systems.
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies,
in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, and from
those who are cold and are not clothed. Eisenhower
Re: CS>Mexican Bliss: Tequila Maker In Mexico Filters Its Water Using Silver | Silver Doctors
I love it, they will do it all with silver before they are dead - swimming pools have silver ion filters as well only no one talks about them Peace, love, blessings and hugs Sandee🐬 An Attitude of Gratitude is Everything oha...@juno.com & or san...@spiceisle.com Alive Again Colloidal Silver Products Topical Gel & Eye Drops
CS>Mexican Bliss: Tequila Maker In Mexico Filters Its Water Using Silver | Silver Doctors
https://www.silverdoctors.com/silver/silver-news/mexican-bliss-tequila-maker-in-mexico-filters-its-water-using-silver/ Mexican Bliss: Tequila Maker In Mexico Filters Its Water Using Silver July 1, 2018 854 It’s almost like a match made in heaven for aficionados of both Tequila and silver. Here’s the details… from The Silver Institute Stoli Group USA’s Cenote Tequila, is filtering its water used for tequila through silver ions. In a recent on-line interview, master distiller Arturo Fuente discussed the company’s Cenote brand and his job as distiller. He noted: “We play a key role in overseeing the entire process to ensure no mistakes are made that could cause contamination to the spirit. It is our job to make sure we’re placing the best liquid into the barrels to rest. We pay close attention to the details that others might not have the time for… Our water is sourced from an artesian well located at our distillery (Fabrica de Tequila Finos), which sits at the base of the Jalisco volcano. The water goes through reverse osmosis and carbon filters with silver ions to eliminate any chance of impurities.” Cenote tequila is not the only spirit-maker to use silver ions to purify water. Golia vodka, produced from Mongolian wheat and water from the Khuiten Peak, is distilled at least six times through silver and platinum filters to remove any impurities. (See New Mongolian Vodka Distilled Through Silver Filters, February, 2014 Silver News). Other vodka makers including Silver Dollar, Fortuna and Kvint also pass water through silver filtration systems. Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, and from those who are cold and are not clothed.Eisenhower
Re: CS>Samsung Introduces Washing Machines Using Patented Nano Silver Ions | Silver Doctors
By the way, this kind of product is old news in Japan. Ag+ washing machines have been around for many years, and I have one myself. Been living in Tokyo for many years. Ag+ hand wipes, deodorants, nose spays, eye washes, etc., are on convenient store shelves. Big pharma does not have the same control in Japan. I'm not saying the products are any good, but at least they are not suppressed. I make my own CS with the silverpuppy, so I have no need for those products. Just FYI. There is hope ;-) Victor On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Gmail wrote: > > http://www.silverdoctors.com/silver/silver-news/samsung-intr > oduces-washing-machines-using-patented-nano-silver-ions/#more-74445 > > >
CS>Samsung Introduces Washing Machines Using Patented Nano Silver Ions | Silver Doctors
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Re: CS>Medical Mafia Murdering Alternative Health Doctors Who Have Real Cures Not Approved by the FDA?
Is The U.S. Medical Mafia Murdering Alternative Health Doctors Who Have Real Cures Not Approved by the FDA? | | | | || | | | | | Is The U.S. Medical Mafia Murdering Alternative Health Doctors Who Have Rea... How are autism and cancer related? Two internationally known doctors may have lost their lives, because they kne... | | | | On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 1:27 AM, Joe wrote: Hi all I'd appreciate the links to this subject. Thanks Joe Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 8, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Sandee George wrote: > > Have read this one - thanks for the info The Medical Mafia indeed I > know them well from my own experience > Peace, love and hugs > Sandee🐬 > An attitude of gratitude is everything!!! > san...@spiceisle.com > Alive Again Colloidal Silver Products > Topical Gel & Eye Drops > > On 8 Aug 2016, at 5:21 pm, Deborah Gerard wrote: > > Is The U.S. Medical Mafia Murdering Alternative Health Doctors Who Have Real > Cures Not Approved by the FDA? > > > Is The U.S. Medical Mafia Murdering Alternative Health Doctors Who Have Rea... > How are autism and cancer related? Two internationally known doctors may have > lost their lives, because they kne... > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org/ > > Unsubscribe: > <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> > Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html > > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> > >
Re: CS>Medical Mafia Murdering Alternative Health Doctors Who Have Real Cures Not Approved by the FDA?
Hi all I'd appreciate the links to this subject. Thanks Joe Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 8, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Sandee George wrote: > > Have read this one - thanks for the info The Medical Mafia indeed I > know them well from my own experience > Peace, love and hugs > Sandee🐬 > An attitude of gratitude is everything!!! > san...@spiceisle.com > Alive Again Colloidal Silver Products > Topical Gel & Eye Drops > > On 8 Aug 2016, at 5:21 pm, Deborah Gerard wrote: > > Is The U.S. Medical Mafia Murdering Alternative Health Doctors Who Have Real > Cures Not Approved by the FDA? > > > Is The U.S. Medical Mafia Murdering Alternative Health Doctors Who Have Rea... > How are autism and cancer related? Two internationally known doctors may have > lost their lives, because they kne... > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > > Unsubscribe: > <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> > Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html > > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> > >
Re: CS>Medical Mafia Murdering Alternative Health Doctors Who Have Real Cures Not Approved by the FDA?
Have read this one - thanks for the info The Medical Mafia indeed I know them well from my own experience Peace, love and hugs Sandee🐬 An attitude of gratitude is everything!!! san...@spiceisle.com Alive Again Colloidal Silver Products Topical Gel & Eye Drops On 8 Aug 2016, at 5:21 pm, Deborah Gerard wrote: Is The U.S. Medical Mafia Murdering Alternative Health Doctors Who Have Real Cures Not Approved by the FDA? Is The U.S. Medical Mafia Murdering Alternative Health Doctors Who Have Rea... How are autism and cancer related? Two internationally known doctors may have lost their lives, because they kne... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com>
CS>Medical Mafia Murdering Alternative Health Doctors Who Have Real Cures Not Approved by the FDA?
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Re: CS>Alpha Lipoic Acid and Liver Disease (Dec 2007) Townsend Letter for Doctors & Patients
Brooks, The post hasn't come through.. Thank you for the link:) Annie On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Brooks Bradley wrote: > This is the url which was supposed to accompany my post...sent several > minutes ago. > Brooks Bradley. > > > http://www.townsendletter.com/Dec2007/alphalipo1207.htm > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
CS>Alpha Lipoic Acid and Liver Disease (Dec 2007) Townsend Letter for Doctors & Patients
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Interesting experience Del, My Lesson: if you tear a ligament, go to the doctor straight away. I went to a surgeon after tearing my ligament in my thumb (right hand): it just wouldn't get better after two months. This condition is known as 'gamekeepers' thumb' as it was common for gamekeepers using a shotgun. I read about it, and the prognosis was bad! You see, they just don't heal unless set within two weeks - and much better outcome is if set within two days - they are set with a splint that covers the hand. THat's because of the particular structure of the thumb and its articulation, plus the way we use it all the time. So, using it after tearing it means a build up of scar tissue occurs in the healing process, but is constantly being torn away, and this compromises all further healing of the end of the ligament, which then becomes too short as well. The thumb develops a bump. The surgeon was in no hurry and soaked up my dismay. I could not properly use mind the pain. I was debilitated from everything. Oh my god. He told me the the operation which would get back use of the hand would be to remove some of my arm ligament to sew the thumb in place. Shock!! We discussed prognosis, which wasn't great for arm or thumb. I put it to him, that if I had a splint now, perhaps I could get the thing to grow back? He said yes, but the chances are that it would rip again, it would always be weak, too. I put it to him he didn't like doing these particular operations, and he admitted he didn't because of the problems and suffering the patients have, either way. DId it always work I asked. No he said. If I were to delay with a splint, the success of the operation would decline. I pressed him, and he said, a splint at this time was worth a shot, but the chances are slim. I decided to give it two months in a splint I told him. Inwardly I was crying. I visualised metabolic process undoing the scar tissue and extraordinarily extending the ligament after attaching it. We reviewed progress, before and after removing the splint. On follow up, having decided after about four months I could use the hand, though the thumb would weaken , that things were OK now, I looked forward to further healing. The doctor said well, it will never be the same thumb god gave me. He was right. It got stronger over two years, but It does weaken when doing carpentry especially, and I must take care. BUt overall, I am happy. The surgeon was very empathetic, considerate and helpful in making a decision which was not easy for him either. JOhn. --On 21 October 2007 21:15:51 -0400 Del wrote: With doctors you have to pick and choose. They can do some good things and some very bad things. For instance, a window once fell on my middle finger (yes, that one) just above the top knuckle. The pain was so intense it almost wasn't pain any more. My left hand was pinned by the window so I had quite a struggle getting the window to open with my right hand so I could get out from under it. The finger was gashed clear across and the bone in the tip of the finger was broken in two. Made a fast trip to the emergency room, and the doctor on call did an absolutely great job of sewing the finger back together again (with appropriate local anesthetic). However, weeks went by and the bone refused to knit. The hand specialist I was referred to recommended that I have a pin inserted. He very reasonably explained that I would not be able to bend the knuckle any more. I said no thanks, went home, and started to type on my computer keyboard and play the piano again. Hurt at first, but four months later the finger was as strong as ever - just needed to start using it. The point is, you can consult doctors but make your own determination about whether or not to go ahead with their recommendations - and, based on my experiences, most of the time you do not need to do what they recommend. Another example: many years ago (about twenty?) after a ten mile run, I noticed blood in my urine. Went to the HMO and the docs there insisted on shooting me up with a dye and taking x-rays. I said no thanks, and have been fine ever since. No recurrence. If there had been more than one such event, maybe I would have done as they said, but I wanted confirmation that there was a problem serious enough to warrant such action. Another example: my mother had heart problems in her early eighties. Doctors told her to have bypass surgery. I said nothing because I didn't know anything about that stuff, and a lot of people seemed to do ok with it. She was dead within three months after the surgery due to multiple strokes that left her a vegetable before she died. Turns out many people get strokes after such surgery, but I did not know that then. She would have lived several more years, I believe, if she had ignored the doctors. You need to research what the doctor is telling you before you do
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With doctors you have to pick and choose. They can do some good things and some very bad things. For instance, a window once fell on my middle finger (yes, that one) just above the top knuckle. The pain was so intense it almost wasn't pain any more. My left hand was pinned by the window so I had quite a struggle getting the window to open with my right hand so I could get out from under it. The finger was gashed clear across and the bone in the tip of the finger was broken in two. Made a fast trip to the emergency room, and the doctor on call did an absolutely great job of sewing the finger back together again (with appropriate local anesthetic). However, weeks went by and the bone refused to knit. The hand specialist I was referred to recommended that I have a pin inserted. He very reasonably explained that I would not be able to bend the knuckle any more. I said no thanks, went home, and started to type on my computer keyboard and play the piano again. Hurt at first, but four months later the finger was as strong as ever - just needed to start using it. The point is, you can consult doctors but make your own determination about whether or not to go ahead with their recommendations - and, based on my experiences, most of the time you do not need to do what they recommend. Another example: many years ago (about twenty?) after a ten mile run, I noticed blood in my urine. Went to the HMO and the docs there insisted on shooting me up with a dye and taking x-rays. I said no thanks, and have been fine ever since. No recurrence. If there had been more than one such event, maybe I would have done as they said, but I wanted confirmation that there was a problem serious enough to warrant such action. Another example: my mother had heart problems in her early eighties. Doctors told her to have bypass surgery. I said nothing because I didn't know anything about that stuff, and a lot of people seemed to do ok with it. She was dead within three months after the surgery due to multiple strokes that left her a vegetable before she died. Turns out many people get strokes after such surgery, but I did not know that then. She would have lived several more years, I believe, if she had ignored the doctors. You need to research what the doctor is telling you before you do it, find out the odds of success or failure so you can make your own judgment. Sometimes they are right, many times they are dead wrong! There is no substitute for information. That's why I read every message that appears on this list. Del - Original Message - From: "Ode Coyote" To: Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 6:08 AM Subject: Re: CS>Doctors... Of course, doctors know everything possible under the sun and every single one of millions of human variations and combinations. Fat chance. Your belief in doctors is infallible and when it's unrealistic, that's their fault. Yea, that'll work...and you aren't evil. Mental illness never made a body sick. Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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300,000 miles on a good engine rebuild is not unusual with good maintenance. A good engine builder pays closer attention to detail and tolerances than the factory. Some vehicles will do 300k to 500k from the factory. A clutch only wears when starting from a stop, if the driver knows how to drive, what a clutch does and how. I've never worn a clutch out. I have replaced a few, just because it was easy to do with the engine out. I have also re-used some with 300,000 miles on it. The most I've ever put on a car, so far is ~500,000 miles. I bought a good 86 Toyota Pickup body with 542,000 miles, original engine...still running [badly] and put my 78 drive train in it. [rebuilt once, full race tolerances. ] The 78 rusted apart. Still going like new. Ode At 10:43 AM 10/19/2007 -0700, you wrote: Ode, common now..800,000 miles and 3 engines? If you were making the comparison to a plastic surgeon, the analogy would be more believable. :) Ode Coyote wrote: ## I've heard this one a hundred times. Car comes in needing a new clutch, gets new clutch. 1Customer screams about being screwed, but won't listen to driving lessons. Tries to sue the mechanic...sometimes wins because judges know nothing about cars or driving one. Meanwhile, the mechanics identical clutch has out lived 3 engines at 800,000 miles on the car. Ode -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.1/1079 - Release Date: 10/19/2007 5:10 AM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.3/1081 - Release Date: 10/19/2007 5:41 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.3/1081 - Release Date: 10/19/2007 5:41 PM
Re: CS>Doctors...
Ode, common now..800,000 miles and 3 engines? If you were making the comparison to a plastic surgeon, the analogy would be more believable. :) Ode Coyote wrote: ## I've heard this one a hundred times. Car comes in needing a new clutch, gets new clutch. 1Customer screams about being screwed, but won't listen to driving lessons. Tries to sue the mechanic...sometimes wins because judges know nothing about cars or driving one. Meanwhile, the mechanics identical clutch has out lived 3 engines at 800,000 miles on the car. Ode -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.1/1079 - Release Date: 10/19/2007 5:10 AM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CS>Doctors...[Carol] - Kurt
Dee wrote: There's another point here which I don't think has been covered yet. This is that patients can be their own worst enemies. i.e. When the doctor says nothing can be done for their cold etc., they insist on anti-biotics or something that they can take home with them! I think that a lot of them probably intuitively know that the doctors are lieing. They just don't realize that the doctor will NOT give them anything to help, although there are plenty of things that will typically help, such as CS, olive leaf extract, oreganol, ozone water, and possibly MMS. They are simply looking in the wrong place for cures. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Neither they or I have forced anything on anyone. You can choose otherwise at any time, but then, it's all on your head and no one to blame. Defying a quarantine or refusing to play by the rules in their game, when *not playing* is an alternative [as in, stay at home]is you, forcing *your* opinions on others. BTW, I am heavily armed. Never knew why, till now. LOL Ode My beef is with people - like Ode - who believe they have some kind of Right to force their medical beliefs and opinions *and* *practices* on me and my family and friends - and anyone else who claims the Right to own their own life and body. I consider anyone like this my mortal enemy, and will act accordingly should we ever meet and they make their intentions known to me. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.1/1079 - Release Date: 10/19/2007 5:10 AM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.1/1079 - Release Date: 10/19/2007 5:10 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.1/1079 - Release Date: 10/19/2007 5:10 AM
CS>Re: Doctors...
On 10/19/2007, Mark Siepak (bro...@gtcinternet.com) wrote: > You haven't answered the important question, if you are vaccinated, what > >are you afraid of? There was no question asked, but to answer anyway Yes there was - although it was in the form of a statement that no one had answered it yet... It was: "I'd still like to hear why people who believe in the safety and efficacy of vaccinations (and therefore are vaccinated themselves, right?) are so afraid of the unvaccinated." but to answer anyway Burying the bodies of stupid people, and the resultant waves of disease and pest overpopulation that cannot be vaccinated against. Can you say bubonic plague? Ok - so, since I am of the firm opinion that the eating of large quantities of dead food in the form of microwaved food, McDonald's, candy, soda pop, etc ad nauseum, it is my absolute Right that anyone who engages in said behavior should be placed in a mental institution for rehabilitation, where they will be forced to learn about proper nutrition and how to take care of their body. Why should this be allowed? Because otherwise, all of us who are already aware of this knowledge and are willing to practice it are forced to pay vastly higher costs for insurance, as well as suffer the spiraling costs of medical treatment to treat these stupid people (your words) when they get sick due to their poor lifestyle choices. Can you say Cancer/MS/MD/any of the other hundreds of different 'diseases' that have been created by these poor lifestyle choices? the mark of civilization is the way it treats its' young, feeble, and aged. You would let everyone die but the fit, healthy, lucky ones. Actually, you'd be surprised... I recently had to watch a favorite aunt die a slow, painful death from Cancer, while she chugged away at her 6-8 diet pepsi's a day, ate microwaved food exclusively, lots of white bread, margarine - the SAD diet, basically. Vibrant health has nothing to do with luck - and yes, I would advocate that people should be required to suffer the consequences of their own poor choices in life - ESPECIALLY if the alternative being suggested is to force other people to pay for their mistakes and VOLUNTARY CHOICES. That doesn't mean I'm a heartless bastard - it means I'm an HONEST bastard. Why honest? Because to suggest that others be forced AT GUNPOINT to pay for the mistakes and voluntary choices of other people is to advocate theft and/or extortion. Sick Bastard, if I may re-use a term No more, this is OT, and your ideas and morals are so corrupt you are not worth my time. Dude, if you're gonna talk to yourself, at least keep it off-list... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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When a person approaches a health care provider, or anyone else providing a service, and relinquishes their self-responsibility for acquiring at least some knowledge of the problem they are sealing their fate. If you know your engine is always stalling and the mechanic tells you he's done an evaluation and you're crazy, would you keep bringing your car back to him? ## I've heard this one a hundred times. Car comes in needing a new clutch, gets new clutch. 10,000 miles later, it needs another one. Customer screams about being screwed, but won't listen to driving lessons. Tries to sue the mechanic...sometimes wins because judges know nothing about cars or driving one. Meanwhile, the mechanics identical clutch has out lived 3 engines at 800,000 miles on the car. Ode -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.1/1079 - Release Date: 10/19/2007 5:10 AM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Of course, doctors know everything possible under the sun and every single one of millions of human variations and combinations. Fat chance. Your belief in doctors is infallible and when it's unrealistic, that's their fault. Yea, that'll work...and you aren't evil. Mental illness never made a body sick. Ode At 02:42 PM 10/16/2007 -0700, you wrote: When so many people go to see a doctor because they have no idea what is wrong with them and are sent away being told that there is nothing wrong with them all the while the doctor knows but he is lying, that makes them EVIL. I know there may be some that don't have a clue as to whats going on, but if they've been around for a while they know. Kurt -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.1/1079 - Release Date: 10/19/2007 5:10 AM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Doctors...[Carol] - Kurt
There's another point here which I don't think has been covered yet. This is that patients can be their own worst enemies. i.e. When the doctor says nothing can be done for their cold etc., they insist on anti-biotics or something that they can take home with them! Our doctor has told us this. Also my friends husband was sooo put out because they wouldn't prescribe statins for him as he is on heart medication. He also was put out because he couldn't have the pneumonia jab and had to be content with just the 'flu jab (!) some people insist on being (mis)treated! Dee ---Original Message--- From: John Plumridge Date: 19/10/2007 03:39:34 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Doctors...[Carol] - Kurt All true Carol Ann, and nicely put. But anger is the natural emotion felt at perceived injustice. Deception is an example. and the anger has an object, though maybe fuzzy. It shouldn' t be all doctors, and is also a system of political corruption. But that seems almost like all doctors. We do bring our children up with some sense of understanding that people have different roles, and in that we put trust if possible. With medicine it may be that we are not necessarily lied to, and doctors aren't researchers, merely robots. The problems are immense, but there is plenty of evidence from doctors themselves.
Re: CS>Doctors...
Very good post John. Dee ---Original Message--- From: John Plumridge Date: 19/10/2007 02:20:17 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Doctors... OK, if they know they are lying, but consider that there are many ailments that don't amount to a diagnosis of some syndrome or known pathology. ALso, in the early stages, depending how a patient presents themsleves, and with no clear indications, why fear the worst, when things do spontaneously improve - or should do. Like, I somethimes don't feel 100%. But as I never go to the doctor for anything, unless I need surgery to remove a bullet or something, or to witness my concussion after slipping on a supermarket floor (ho ho), I say to myself, look here somehting is wrong, you are pushing yourself and living unhealthily. LIke I rest before I get bad flu, and go for a walk in the fresh air if I've been too sedentary.
Re: CS>Re: Doctors...
millions of dead bodies will create secondary waves of infection, scavengers, predators, etc. can you remember the bubonic plague? millions died, and not all from plague! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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It is -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Doctors...
Sorry, Mark, your Rights stop Sorry, Mark, your Rights stop WHERE MINE START. So you cannot see the obverse, yours stop WHERE MINE START. Gee - if you ever get your way, I sure hope those 10,000 will stop by some day and thank you for being so generous with their lives. Hopefully the millions you would allow to die would perform the same duty. It couldn't possibly be the years of fast food, drugs, cokes, microwaved food, etc, etc ad nauseum... Babies die from all the communcable diseases. Explain that, but not to me. End of discussion. Go OT or relate it back to CS/EIS -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Doctors...
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Re: CS>Re: Doctors...
>You haven't answered the important question, if you are vaccinated, what >are you afraid of? There was no question asked, but to answer anyway Burying the bodies of stupid people, and the resultant waves of disease and pest overpopulation that cannot be vaccinated against. Can you say bubonic plague? the mark of civilization is the way it treats its' young, feeble, and aged. You would let everyone die but the fit, healthy, lucky ones. Sick Bastard, if I may re-use a term No more, this is OT, and your ideas and morals are so corrupt you are not worth my time. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>doctors to ode
I dont believe that it is self defense that inhibit most doctors from practicing better. I believe more in what John said in the last two paragraphs about them being arrogant, nasty, etc etc. Sorry I have had just to many bad experiences with medical people to be able to think any other way. ITs sad but true. I dont trust that they have the best intentions towards me or their patients and worst of all, I dont trust that they know what they are doing most of the time, except like JOhn mentions, maybe to remove a bullet . __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CS>Doctors...[Carol]
How beautiful. --On 17 October 2007 19:01:26 -0700 Carol Ann wrote: Kurt - p.s. Enjoy Life. Sometimes people can get so absolutely preoccupied and caught up in inconsequential psycho dramas to the exclusion of all else ( even illness is not excluded) that they forget some of important things that make less than desirable health more bearable. Carol Ann wrote: Hey there, speak for thee...and not for we.[Image: "05.gif"] I dunno know about thee, I've been going left when everyone else was going right since I was but a wee babeor so my daddy used to tell me up until the day he died. Society overall, has not yet demonstrated to me why I should do an about face any time soon. Kurt Milkowski wrote: Hey Carol, History just keeps repeating itself. Its really kind of funny when you think about it. We get all knids of new toys to play with but we don't get any smarter do we? Kurt Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Doctors...
Greater good for society, means don't do wrong. You believe in vaccines, some people believe witch doctors. I cannot force witch doctors on you. You cannot force vaccinations on me. I c an't even force fresh air on you. The greater evil for society is when people practice 'bitter medicine' for the greater good of society. An excuse always, carried by the necessary dupes to get a consensus, with an ulterior motive. The greater good is immoral, wrong, because the 'bitter medicine' is premeditated harm. for Society is a collection of individuals. No one, even from a lottery is to be condemmned just because you fear death. Society is all the people, even those you choose not to name, and think are nameless. There is no good for society with intervention. It's against the individual, and nature. Society is not more important than just one of the people. You may mean, by society, human survival: but it is not the same thing. Without vaccinations , and with natural death, the population will be fitter. Now that's a greater good, because no one needs to commit a horrible crime, or fear death. We can be willing to die if we're weak. Which is the way we're made. You haven't answered the important question, if you are vaccinated, what are you afraid of? JOhn --On 17 October 2007 19:21:23 -0400 Mark Siepak wrote: My beef is with people - like Ode - who believe they have some kind of Right to force their medical beliefs and opinions *and* *practices* on me and my family and friends - and anyone else who claims the Right to own their own life and body. Well, now, aren't you forcing YOUR "medical beliefs and opinions *and* *practices*" on ME when you refuse to be vaccinated against communicable diseases like smallpox or polio? After all, I DO think vaccinations work, and even if the rate of bad reactions was 10% (more like one and a half percent), I think it is worth maybe 10,000 with bad reactions, to avoid having pandemics kill millions every 15-30 years. Of course, if my child were one with the bad reaction, I would probably want to blame someone. Of course, you unvaccinated people could go to Hawaii, so no one else would die when the inevitable pandemic swept your 'nation'! Sometimes the greater good for society is bitter medicine, pun intended. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Doctors...
Yeah, me too. Really, I want a vaccine against that nazi fascist attitude of the public...it's pandemic, this abandonment of common sense and worship of paid experts to think for us. JOhn --On 17 October 2007 15:23:05 -0700 Kurt Milkowski wrote: I think Simon is just fed up with the nazi facist attitude of the public as am I. Kurt Richard wrote: Simon, why are you so aggressive ? are you really a tough guy or just pretending . ? What is a "pinch of salt " in your lingo ? Cheer up or chill , please ! Richard On 17/10/2007, at 18:40, Simon Jester wrote: On 10/17/2007, Dave (ddar...@centurytel.net) wrote: Simon: Do you consider that Ode just might be "stirring the pot"? In the distant past Ode expressed views that weren't that much different than yours. When someone advocates something like he is advocating, in the manner and medium that he is, no, don't consider such a possibility. If he is, then he is a sick bastard... and I would happily 'explain' this to him in person. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Doctors, EFA Profile list and Example
within the normal range is not the ideal range. Some (Omega's) are low throughout the American population, as a whole. JOhn --On 17 October 2007 09:02:15 -0500 CWFugitt wrote: Morning Faith, At 07:26 AM 10/17/2007, you wrote: What's an EFA profile? Don't feel bad, most doctors do not know. Essential Fatty Acid Profile. There are about 29 items on the list. Mine had to go to the Mayo Clinic. Local Blood Labs cannot usually do it. At age 64, every single item was within the normal range. You can see one here. ( Mine ) http://www.fugitt.com/blood/efa_wf.jpg Try to make it larger with your browser, the copy quality is not good, but it can be read. Not sure what all it proves. Maybe it proves one does not have one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peeling. Wayne "Many people would sooner die than think. In fact they do. http://www.miraclemineral.org/ Silver file Area... http://www.fugitt.com/cs_notes/ MDI Subscribe Email mailto:mdi_news-subscr...@yahoogroups.com - -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Doctors...[Carol] - Kurt
All true Carol Ann, and nicely put. But anger is the natural emotion felt at perceived injustice. Deception is an example. and the anger has an object, though maybe fuzzy. It shouldn' t be all doctors, and is also a system of political corruption. But that seems almost like all doctors. We do bring our children up with some sense of understanding that people have different roles, and in that we put trust if possible. With medicine it may be that we are not necessarily lied to, and doctors aren't researchers, merely robots. The problems are immense, but there is plenty of evidence from doctors themselves. As someone put it earlier, med school has few lecturers, but teachers of a syllabus. Critical thinking is largely lacking. JOhn. --On 17 October 2007 06:25:01 -0700 Carol Ann wrote: Hey Kurt ~ Re your sis. Forget mistakes. Forget failures. Forget everything except what you're going to do now and do it. ;) Ya know, of course, that by now, what you are experiencing is a learning process which is sometimes very painful but very applicable to the old saying...what doesn't kill you only makes you stronger. The problems you mention are universal, no need to take it personally on the chin in silence or turn the other cheek. Our current system is merely a mirror of societies deeply entrenched belief systems; what people acquiesce to by letting govt,media, perceived gurus (doc's included) demonstrates/mirrors how people have allowed themselves to be used. There has always been way to much complacency...the you do it for me because I don't want to be responsible mentality. Others become the ultimate teachers, bosses, healers. Someone, just tell me what to do mentality! Boils down to ideological worship and foolishness. Is it frustrating. Absolutely. Unfortunately, humans need to be tricked, lied to and deceived before they can become aware. Those that become aware are the better for it. Not to hijack the thread in any way, but I will make a quick reference for to the current state of affairs re the Iraq War as an analogy. People allowed the progression of national affairs in this regard because of complacency, lack of interest, naivety, acquiescence of their voting power, etc, etc. Like it or not..what the medical professions and govt are accused of doing is really reflecting complacency and heinous archaic common beliefs and projecting the drama back. ...which means, for the most part, in many ways, those choosing to remain in acceptance and un-informed, are essentially no better than the accused. "Undirected" anger is imvho just a waste of exceptional and often, very productive energy. Kurt Milkowski wrote: Hey Carol, > I do what I can to let others know. I should probably let you know that my sister belongs to this group of quacks known as md's. Whose fault is it for trusting doctors? Mine. Having a sister for an md I >thought I had and in. All pretty funny that I had to suffer for such a long time before waking up. I might seem a bit angry to some about it, and I am. The anger however is mostly at myself for letting myself be decieved. Kurt Carol Ann wrote: Kurt ~ Doctors are no more evil or good based solely upon their profession than say...your local pastor, or service engineer be they mechanics or plumbers. More so when the individual seeking advice is totally ignorant about the service sought. Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Doctors...
In the past five or so years, all the doctors I have visited, except one, has been fair enough. A lot depends on my attitude, and they sense I have little patience for arrogance or 'lack of disclosure'. THey could lose me (it's in my eye's - non-dependency) so they do their best within the constraints to advise. I treat them respectfully as consultants, but I am the decision-maker. My intelligence must be addressed. The one idiot was a dermatologist (seeing my little boy) who pulled mocking faces when my wife reported trials of homeopathy- as if she were a fool to try: he wore a bow tie. He poo pooed everything we were attempting ( mattresses, carpets/flooring etc, heat regulation) We didn't bother with his drugs. SHortly after I diagnosed leaky gut, and had this conformed by a private consultant. Could I blame the UK hospital doctors? not really - it is all political. THree years later, the same hospital kindly informs me 'a lot of child eczema is gut-related'). Then they offered loads of useless blood/allergy tests. THe results came, and they couldn't tell me whether the 'highs' were high compared to the general population or to eczema children. You see, all eczema children show elevated scores across the whole range. THis is a symptom, and the food is not the cause (multiple food intolerances). IN fact you can predict that the higher the protein content the greater the intolerance, taking into account the degree to which the protein is broken down to amino acids (e.g fermented soya products, pulses, parmesan as opposed to non-matured cheese). ALso, they don't test the food we actually eat. If they test wheat as bread, which bread? Which flour? And so forth. Conclusion: beware of DOctors with bow-ties. JOhn --On 16 October 2007 21:59:38 -0400 Dianne France wrote: The main doctor I see is very open minded about my ideals of how I want to be treated for problems I go in for and tries hard to work with me. She will suggest things and listens to what I say. We don't always agree with what I need but she treats my decisions with respect. That is not always the experience I have had with doctors but this one is different. I feel fortunate to have her for a doctor. Dianne - Original Message - From: faith gagne To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 7:40 PM Subject: Re: CS>Doctors... I am really fed up with this conversation. I have 3 or 4 extremely good and wonderrful doctors who have not only helped me immeasurably over and over again, but who I have come to consider kind, loving and caring friend. All this doctor-bashing is really getting to me. I like and admire professional people and If you do not like or trust doctors that is your problem. Faith - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 5:42 PM Subject: Re: CS>Doctors... When so many people go to see a doctor because they have no idea what is wrong with them and are sent away being told that there is nothing wrong with them all the while the doctor knows but he is lying, that makes them EVIL. I know there may be some that don't have a clue as to whats going on, but if they've been around for a while they know. Kurt Ode Coyote wrote: It's mostly self defense that makes Doctors "toe the official line" If they weren't constantly under attack, they could afford to explore more...but deviate just a little and be wrong, unbelievable law suits, flocks of vultures swoop in for their pound of flesh with the "victim" getting a third share. I've met a few that will whisper, very quitely and privately, "Colloidal Silver", then pretend he didn't. I've had some at my house and "turned them on" to CS. I know a few dentists that would love to be able to use EIS in their practice...they've seen what it can do with their own eyes. "Looks goodunfortunately, can't use it" Most doctors...almost ALL doctors...are very sincere people, but they have to huddle under the legal umbrella for protection. I sold a box of 6 EIS generators delivered to a hospital in NYC...probably to treat street people who don't have lawyers or any money, and several more to names with MD behind them...I assume, for their friends and families. No, they aren't Devils and they aren't stupid....they are afraid. Ode On Oct 15, 2007, at 5:09 AM, M. G. Devour wrote: Allow for the existence of the exceptional few... *every* time you make a statement about "doctors." It doesn't take many words -- "most," "nearly all" -- to tranform the environment from hostile to merely unfriendly. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.12/1072 - Release Date: 10/15/2007
Re: CS>Doctors...
This is an important point I think , Nancy. I could expand briefly: limited knowledge of biochemical processes and nutrition has led to spurious conclusions, fashions and so on. Many of these were taken up and publicised by a competitive food industry (processed foods). MOreover, processed food, which has increased beyond belief, presents a complicated picture. And, quality of produce has deteriorated along with soils. JOhn --On 16 October 2007 18:32:11 -0700 Tad Winiecki wrote: My experience is that doctors actually don't know what is wrong when the cause of the problem is nutritional. They are not taught nutrition in medical school. So they can tell you straight-faced that you have a disease whose cause is unknown and it cannot be cured but they can give you drugs to treat the symptoms or surgery. That is what they told me about my bursitis and also my thumb/tendon problem I had as a nursing mother (both just needing more calcium and magnesium in a absorbable form). My doctor sister said, "But that's just one doctor that didn't know" but actually I have met 4 other women who had the same problem when nursing and were told the same lies, and one had the scars from the unnecessary surgery. It takes a special doctor to have knowledge of nutrition, I haven't seen one yet. My sister does try some, and will try to help people correct their diets. Yes, my youngest sister is a doctor and just visited along with my other 3 siblings. She said she was afraid to open her mouth about her medical views since I'm such an alternative nutcase (not her words) and I act so superior. Then she proceeded to say she was worried I would die of something like appendicitis because I wouldn't seek the attention of a doctor. Talk about acting superior. I asked her why she couldn't test people for their mineral deficiencies and treat their nutritional diseases, and she said the insurance company would not pay for the tests, or there were no tests for some. We parted still at an empasse. Nancy On Oct 16, 2007, at 2:42 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: When so many people go to see a doctor because they have no idea what is wrong with them and are sent away being told that there is nothing wrong with them all the while the doctor knows but he is lying, that makes them EVIL. I know there may be some that don't have a clue as to whats going on, but if they've been around for a while they know. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Doctors...
This conversation has been a discussion , I thought. Why dislike it? ALso, Faith, admiring people because they are professionals is risky. Of course all doctors shouldn't be thought of in the same way, which means criticism, and also of the medical system - which is what is really at issue here, is valid and necessary by public and doctors alike. One example DOctor Ron PAul, who criticises the medical system - particularly the corruptive government involvement in that system. JOhn --On 16 October 2007 19:40:13 -0400 faith gagne wrote: I am really fed up with this conversation. I have 3 or 4 extremely good and wonderrful doctors who have not only helped me immeasurably over and over again, but who I have come to consider kind, loving and caring friend. All this doctor-bashing is really getting to me. I like and admire professional people and If you do not like or trust doctors that is your problem. Faith - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 5:42 PM Subject: Re: CS>Doctors... When so many people go to see a doctor because they have no idea what is wrong with them and are sent away being told that there is nothing wrong with them all the while the doctor knows but he is lying, that makes them EVIL. I know there may be some that don't have a clue as to whats going on, but if they've been around for a while they know. Kurt Ode Coyote wrote: It's mostly self defense that makes Doctors "toe the official line" If they weren't constantly under attack, they could afford to explore more...but deviate just a little and be wrong, unbelievable law suits, flocks of vultures swoop in for their pound of flesh with the "victim" getting a third share. I've met a few that will whisper, very quitely and privately, "Colloidal Silver", then pretend he didn't. I've had some at my house and "turned them on" to CS. I know a few dentists that would love to be able to use EIS in their practice...they've seen what it can do with their own eyes. "Looks goodunfortunately, can't use it" Most doctors...almost ALL doctors...are very sincere people, but they have to huddle under the legal umbrella for protection. I sold a box of 6 EIS generators delivered to a hospital in NYC...probably to treat street people who don't have lawyers or any money, and several more to names with MD behind them...I assume, for their friends and families. No, they aren't Devils and they aren't stupidthey are afraid. Ode On Oct 15, 2007, at 5:09 AM, M. G. Devour wrote: Allow for the existence of the exceptional few... *every* time you make a statement about "doctors." It doesn't take many words -- "most," "nearly all" -- to tranform the environment from hostile to merely unfriendly. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.12/1072 - Release Date: 10/15/2007 5:55 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Doctors...
OK, if they know they are lying, but consider that there are many ailments that don't amount to a diagnosis of some syndrome or known pathology. ALso, in the early stages, depending how a patient presents themsleves, and with no clear indications, why fear the worst, when things do spontaneously improve - or should do. Like, I somethimes don't feel 100%. But as I never go to the doctor for anything, unless I need surgery to remove a bullet or something, or to witness my concussion after slipping on a supermarket floor (ho ho), I say to myself, look here somehting is wrong, you are pushing yourself and living unhealthily. LIke I rest before I get bad flu, and go for a walk in the fresh air if I've been too sedentary. Those nasty symptoms, of being run down, could be the beginning of cancer, or ME, muscle atrophy, bone deterioration, myoinfarction etc. And sure, I know myself I've had them all and cured them at the outset. Also, it's worth considering that doctors do value the placebo effect, tell a patient there is nothing wrong, is known to have a benign effect a lot of the time - reassurance. It helps people to get over minor (or early) stage symptoms. I don't think all doctors think their patients are imagining symptoms all the time...like the symptoms of old age are widespread, but non-specific. Well, that's to expand understanding of the big picture. But I don't forget, doctors can be ruthless, corrupt, nasty, petty, overbearing, vain, stupid, arrogant, and as you say, evil. But not all of them all the time. The main problem is medicine as an industry. Same with herbalism, reiki, housebuilding, convenience food, spiritual guides that accost you in your living room... you name it. But getting a haircut isn't so bad, unless you you go to Sweeny Todd (who worked for a doctor, I think). JOhn --On 16 October 2007 14:42:08 -0700 Kurt Milkowski wrote: When so many people go to see a doctor because they have no idea what is wrong with them and are sent away being told that there is nothing wrong with them all the while the doctor knows but he is lying, that makes them EVIL. I know there may be some that don't have a clue as to whats going on, but if they've been around for a while they know. Kurt Ode Coyote wrote: It's mostly self defense that makes Doctors "toe the official line" If they weren't constantly under attack, they could afford to explore more...but deviate just a little and be wrong, unbelievable law suits, flocks of vultures swoop in for their pound of flesh with the "victim" getting a third share. I've met a few that will whisper, very quitely and privately, "Colloidal Silver", then pretend he didn't. I've had some at my house and "turned them on" to CS. I know a few dentists that would love to be able to use EIS in their practice...they've seen what it can do with their own eyes. "Looks goodunfortunately, can't use it" Most doctors...almost ALL doctors...are very sincere people, but they have to huddle under the legal umbrella for protection. I sold a box of 6 EIS generators delivered to a hospital in NYC...probably to treat street people who don't have lawyers or any money, and several more to names with MD behind them...I assume, for their friends and families. No, they aren't Devils and they aren't stupidthey are afraid. Ode On Oct 15, 2007, at 5:09 AM, M. G. Devour wrote: Allow for the existence of the exceptional few... *every* time you make a statement about "doctors." It doesn't take many words -- "most," "nearly all" -- to tranform the environment from hostile to merely unfriendly. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.12/1072 - Release Date: 10/15/2007 5:55 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Doctors...[Carol]
That being the case - bible references - Ignorance regarding the terminology and interpretation of the word "Witch" whether applied to modern or archaic is bliss. Simon Jester wrote: On 10/17/2007 Carol Ann wrote: Get a good concordance and look up the biblical word(s) used for 'witches' - you'll find that they fit the modern 'doctor' to a 't'... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CS>Re: Doctors...
Mark Siepak wrote: My beef is with people - like Ode - who believe they have some kind of Right to force their medical beliefs and opinions *and* *practices* on me and my family and friends - and anyone else who claims the Right to own their own life and body. Well, now, aren't you forcing YOUR "medical beliefs and opinions *and* *practices*" on ME when you refuse to be vaccinated against communicable diseases like smallpox or polio? After all, I DO think vaccinations work, and even if the rate of bad reactions was 10% (more like one and a half percent), I think it is worth maybe 10,000 with bad reactions, to avoid having pandemics kill millions every 15-30 years. Of course, if my child were one with the bad reaction, I would probably want to blame someone. Somehow this makes no sense to me. You say that you believe vaccinations work, and that someone choosing to not take them is forcing their beliefs and opinions on you when they refuse to be vaccinated. That is like saying that someone is forcing their religion on you if they go to Church (or not). What are you talking about? How does what one chooses to do with their body force anything on you? Are you saying it is because you may catch something from them? If so, then that is contrary to you saying that you believe vaccinations work,, unless you are saying that you want everyone else to be vaccinated but you. Can you restate this in a way that is logical? Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Doctors...
Simon Jester wrote: "If you believe vaccinations work, and you are vaccinated, WHY ARE YOU AFRAID OF THE UNVACCINATED?" If one wanted discuss a hypothesis.the above premise/question is succinct Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CS>Re: Doctors...
On 10/18/2007, Simon Jester (tansta...@libertytrek.org) wrote: Mark, I'll only say this once... Do NOT send any more email direct to me. If you want to discuss list talk, just do it on the list. Sorry Mark, It was late, and I must not have looked at the headers... As I said in my second post - please change your Reply-To to honor the list default of 'Reply to list'... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Doctors...
Just to put my two penneth in here. My daughter just had the 'flue vaccine, and she has 'shed' it to me, her husband, and her son. This is what you are saying in reverse. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Simon Jester Date: 18/10/2007 05:20:30 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Re: Doctors... On 10/17/2007 Mark Siepak wrote: > Well, now, aren't you forcing YOUR "medical beliefs and opinions > *and* *practices*" on ME when you refuse to be vaccinated against > communicable diseases like smallpox or polio?
Re: CS>Doctors...[Carol]
On 10/17/2007 Carol Ann wrote: I got curious about the Apollo comment because I never read that before. Anyway, this is one of the references I found and thought you might enjoy it. It made me laugh. Just substitute modern terminology, for example, gods of prophecy/priests/ = doctors; temple/abaton =- hospitals/nursing/hospice/doctors offices. Visions/dreams - big pharma tv commercials; offerings; health ins/medicade; etc. etc. Things haven't changed muchhave they. :) Get a good concordance and look up the biblical word(s) used for 'witches' - you'll find that they fit the modern 'doctor' to a 't'... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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On 10/18/2007 bbanever wrote: But it's ok for the Bush cabal to spend your tax dollars on an illegal and immoral war in Iraq? Priorities sir, priorities. Ummm... methinks you are ass-u-me-ing something, sir... I am a Ron Paul republican - meaning, a libertarian (thats small 'l' - I don't see eye to eye with a few of their philosophies)... I am against ALL wars of aggression - which every war we have engaged in since maybe the war of 1812 has been... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Mark, I'll only say this once... Do NOT send any more email direct to me. If you want to discuss list talk, just do it on the list. On 10/17/2007 Mark Siepak wrote: Well, now, aren't you forcing YOUR "medical beliefs and opinions *and* *practices*" on ME when you refuse to be vaccinated against communicable diseases like smallpox or polio? Oh my god... talk about twisted thinking... After all, I DO think vaccinations work, Fine... VACCINATE YOURSELF, then. And since you're one of 'those'... I'll ask you too... If you believe vaccinations work, and you are vaccinated, WHY ARE YOU AFRAID OF THE UNVACCINATED? But here's the rub... I DON'T believe they are safe OR effective... in fact, I believe that they are FAR more dangerous than any natural bug that I MIGHT (or probably WON'T) get. Sorry, Mark, your Rights stop WHERE MINE START. and even if the rate of bad reactions was 10% (more like one and a half percent), I think it is worth maybe 10,000 with bad reactions, to avoid having pandemics kill millions every 15-30 years. Gee - if you ever get your way, I sure hope those 10,000 will stop by some day and thank you for being so generous with their lives. Of course, if my child were one with the bad reaction, I would probably want to blame someone. Of course you would - people like you are always looking to blame anyone (the unvaccinated) or anything (the big bad hairy germ), rather than take responsiblility or your own state of health (or lack thereof). It couldn't possibly be the years of fast food, drugs, cokes, microwaved food, etc, etc ad nauseum... Of course, you unvaccinated people could go to Hawaii, so no one else would die when the inevitable pandemic swept your 'nation'! I repeat my question... If you believe vaccinations work, and you are vaccinated, WHY ARE YOU AFRAID OF THE UNVACCINATED? Sometimes the greater good for society is bitter medicine, pun intended. Sounds familiar - like something Hitler or Stalin would have said... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Simon, But it's ok for the Bush cabal to spend your tax dollars on an illegal and immoral war in Iraq? Priorities sir, priorities. - Original Message - From: "Simon Jester" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:50 PM Subject: CS>Re: Doctors... I really think you should stop worrying about seeing doctors because perhaps someday in the not too distant future you won't be able to afford to see them at all. Medicare is paying for fewer and fewer medical services all the time. Good. The sooner medicare, medicade, and all of the other extortion based, parasitical sources of funding for this medical holocaust of a system collapse into dut, the better off we'll all be. There is absolutely NO delegated authority for the federal government to be used as a tool of confiscation to force me to pay for your or anyone else's medical care - or housing, insurance, food, clothing or anything else for that matter. I'm sick and tired of people who think they have some kind of claim on my life. And by the way... if the RICO laws were actually enforced, insurance companies would not be run by the same people with financial interests in the pharmaceutical industry... which means they would be looking to reimburse people for the cheapest and most effective treatments, as opposed to the most expensive, recurring kind. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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I really think you should stop worrying about seeing doctors because perhaps someday in the not too distant future you won't be able to afford to see them at all. Medicare is paying for fewer and fewer medical services all the time. Good. The sooner medicare, medicade, and all of the other extortion based, parasitical sources of funding for this medical holocaust of a system collapse into dut, the better off we'll all be. There is absolutely NO delegated authority for the federal government to be used as a tool of confiscation to force me to pay for your or anyone else's medical care - or housing, insurance, food, clothing or anything else for that matter. I'm sick and tired of people who think they have some kind of claim on my life. And by the way... if the RICO laws were actually enforced, insurance companies would not be run by the same people with financial interests in the pharmaceutical industry... which means they would be looking to reimburse people for the cheapest and most effective treatments, as opposed to the most expensive, recurring kind. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Kurt - p.s. Enjoy Life. Sometimes people can get so absolutely preoccupied and caught up in inconsequential psycho dramas to the exclusion of all else ( even illness is not excluded) that they forget some of important things that make less than desirable health more bearable. Carol Ann wrote: Hey there, speak for thee...and not for we. I dunno know about thee, I've been going left when everyone else was going right since I was but a wee babeor so my daddy used to tell me up until the day he died. Society overall, has not yet demonstrated to me why I should do an about face any time soon. Kurt Milkowski wrote: Hey Carol, History just keeps repeating itself. Its really kind of funny when you think about it. We get all knids of new toys to play with but we don't get any smarter do we? Kurt Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Well I've always kind of been going against the grain, swimming upstream. Now the waters just running a little faster, hope I don't drown. Kurt Carol Ann wrote: Hey there, speak for thee...and not for we. I dunno know about thee, I've been going left when everyone else was going right since I was but a wee babeor so my daddy used to tell me up until the day he died. Society overall, has not yet demonstrated to me why I should do an about face any time soon. Kurt Milkowski wrote:Hey Carol, History just keeps repeating itself. Its really kind of funny when you think about it. We get all knids of new toys to play with but we don't get any smarter do we? Kurt Carol Ann wrote: Hi Kurt, I got curious about the Apollo comment because I never read that before. Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Hey there, speak for thee...and not for we. I dunno know about thee, I've been going left when everyone else was going right since I was but a wee babeor so my daddy used to tell me up until the day he died. Society overall, has not yet demonstrated to me why I should do an about face any time soon. Kurt Milkowski wrote: Hey Carol, History just keeps repeating itself. Its really kind of funny when you think about it. We get all knids of new toys to play with but we don't get any smarter do we? Kurt Carol Ann wrote: Hi Kurt, I got curious about the Apollo comment because I never read that before. Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Hey Carol, History just keeps repeating itself. Its really kind of funny when you think about it. We get all knids of new toys to play with but we don't get any smarter do we? Kurt Carol Ann wrote: Hi Kurt, I got curious about the Apollo comment because I never read that before. Anyway, this is one of the references I found and thought you might enjoy it. It made me laugh. Just substitute modern terminology, for example, gods of prophecy/priests/ = doctors; temple/abaton =- hospitals/nursing/hospice/doctors offices. Visions/dreams - big pharma tv commercials; offerings; health ins/medicade; etc. etc. Things haven't changed muchhave they. :) "In the temple of Artemis, sister of Apollo, god of prophecy, patients would pray and make offerings for aid. The most important building, however, was the abaton. After making offerings to the gods, patients were ordered to sleep in the abaton and not to open their eyes under any circumstances. During the night Asclepius, his daughters, and his priests would visit patients in turn. Asclepius was believed to examine each patient before applying remedies, medicines made of natural ingredients. Some patients reported that Asclepius had sent snakes to lick their wounds clean. When the patients woke the next morning, they would often declare themselves totally cured. Even patients suffering from blindness or other seemingly incurable conditions reported success. The priests would also prescribe treatments and regimes based on a patient's visions or dreams while asleep. Patients who had been cured left offerings of money or inscribed tablets detailing their treatment at the temples. Success may have been more to do with the physical regime or the practical treatments devised by the priests, but belief in the healing powers of Asclepius also had a positive effect. Kurt Milkowski wrote:Hey Carol, >I feel bad for these people having been brainwashed. >I know its the hippocratic oath, the oath was origionally made to the god >appolo. Kurt Carol Ann wrote: Kurt ~ Question.What do you think about the millions of people who go to doctors with mysterious complaints. Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Hi Kurt, I got curious about the Apollo comment because I never read that before. Anyway, this is one of the references I found and thought you might enjoy it. It made me laugh. Just substitute modern terminology, for example, gods of prophecy/priests/ = doctors; temple/abaton =- hospitals/nursing/hospice/doctors offices. Visions/dreams - big pharma tv commercials; offerings; health ins/medicade; etc. etc. Things haven't changed muchhave they. :) "In the temple of Artemis, sister of Apollo, god of prophecy, patients would pray and make offerings for aid. The most important building, however, was the abaton. After making offerings to the gods, patients were ordered to sleep in the abaton and not to open their eyes under any circumstances. During the night Asclepius, his daughters, and his priests would visit patients in turn. Asclepius was believed to examine each patient before applying remedies, medicines made of natural ingredients. Some patients reported that Asclepius had sent snakes to lick their wounds clean. When the patients woke the next morning, they would often declare themselves totally cured. Even patients suffering from blindness or other seemingly incurable conditions reported success. The priests would also prescribe treatments and regimes based on a patient's visions or dreams while asleep. Patients who had been cured left offerings of money or inscribed tablets detailing their treatment at the temples. Success may have been more to do with the physical regime or the practical treatments devised by the priests, but belief in the healing powers of Asclepius also had a positive effect. Kurt Milkowski wrote: Hey Carol, >I feel bad for these people having been brainwashed. >I know its the hippocratic oath, the oath was origionally made to the god >appolo. Kurt Carol Ann wrote: Kurt ~ Question.What do you think about the millions of people who go to doctors with mysterious complaints. Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Hey Carol, I feel bad for these people having been brainwashed. I was one of them, then I woke up. Unfortunately we live in a greedy, sick world. I know its the hippocratic oath, the oath was origionally made to the god appolo. Kurt Carol Ann wrote: Kurt ~ Question.What do you think about the millions of people who go to doctors with mysterious complaints. They're given a RX because the doctor really dosen't have a definitive diagnosis and is taking their best shot with a drug that they believe might help. The patient has the RX filled and never bothers to read the inserts. When bad reactions happen or their conditions continue worsen or morph and their health deteriorates, they claim to be mystified. So the doc prescribes another RX and the cycle continues. Do you see them as individuals who have a certain amount of responsibility for their own health or should doctors solely shoulder the blame. btw...its not the Apollo oath, its the Hippocratic oath. :) http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/doctors/oath_today.html Kurt Milkowski wrote:Hey Carol, Again, when you realize the oath the doctors take is to the greek gos of destruction, apollo, you may think twice. Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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>My beef is with people - like Ode - who believe they have some kind of >Right to force their medical beliefs and opinions *and* *practices* on >me and my family and friends - and anyone else who claims the Right to >own their own life and body. Well, now, aren't you forcing YOUR "medical beliefs and opinions *and* *practices*" on ME when you refuse to be vaccinated against communicable diseases like smallpox or polio? After all, I DO think vaccinations work, and even if the rate of bad reactions was 10% (more like one and a half percent), I think it is worth maybe 10,000 with bad reactions, to avoid having pandemics kill millions every 15-30 years. Of course, if my child were one with the bad reaction, I would probably want to blame someone. Of course, you unvaccinated people could go to Hawaii, so no one else would die when the inevitable pandemic swept your 'nation'! Sometimes the greater good for society is bitter medicine, pun intended. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Hey Paula, Sure post away. I went to the doctor, was of no use at all, just went alot. Kurt Paula Perry wrote: Kurt, I was reading an article just this morning posted on Rense about drugs. Some of the drugs they were talking about in the article actually caused a drug indused Parkinson's Disease and other diseases. I will post the article if you want to read it. You did say that you used a lot of md doctoring. Paula - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 7:46 AM Subject: Re: CS>Doctors...[Carol] Hey Carol, Again, when you realize the oath the doctors take is to the greek gos of destruction, apollo, you may think twice. Been through a fair share of surgeries and hospitilazations with my family, not a whole bunch of fun. Do I give the credit to any humans for the successful outcomes of these invasive procedures, absolutely not, God gets that. Now that I have realized that the cause of the problems was due to the vaccines these "wonderful" people have stuck in our asses, I do what I can to let others know. I should probably let you know that my sister belongs to this group of quacks known as md's. I will also tell you that after being run through the mill be these "caring" professonals, I had started to develope parkinsons about a year and a half ago. I can tell you also that as of now I don't have parkinsons at the moment, again I give the credit to God, that I'm not in the same shape as Michael J. Fox is right about now. Whose fault is it for trusting doctors? Mine. Having a sister for an md I thought I had and in. All pretty funny that I had to suffer for such a long time before waking up. I might seem a bit angry to some about it, and I am. The anger however is mostly at myself for letting myself be decieved. Kurt Carol Ann wrote: Kurt ~ Doctors are no more evil or good based solely upon their profession than say...your local pastor, or service engineer be they mechanics or plumbers. More so when the individual seeking advice is totally ignorant about the service sought. Doctors are but mere mortals, human beings although I have met my share of those who believe otherwise. With those gods, I've gone 10 rounds sometimes. The simple fact is that somme are more or less honest than others. About 3 years ago my son and I sat before an anesthesiologist who steadfastly proclaimed that there were absolutely no dangers whatsoever associated with general anesthesia. My son needed an operation. Did the doc have his way.absolutely not because the operation did not require a general. The meeting was scheduled because I objected from the get go..I knew a general was not necessary but he would have scheduled it as a matter or routine. As I sat assessing him, I concluded that he was lying, and it didn't take but a few minutes before he knew, that I knew. Did he say this because he was dishonest, truly believed what he said, inexperienced, or just a demented idiot? Each person must do their own evaluation when they place their lives in another's hands. To this day I will be eternally grateful to the surgeon who sewed four fingers back of one of my sons who would have otherwise lost them due to a water skiing accident. And then there's the surgeon who fixed another sons fibula that had completely severed in a football game. My neice will soon be attending Med School. She calls the witch doctor, as she fondly calls me, to see if I have any Echanesia on hand when she comes down with a cold. And its usually because she runs out. Does she know about colloidal silver. Absolutely. When she attends med school, will they attempt to brain wash her. Absolutely. The primary difference between her and the anesthesia guy will be that integrity and honesty cannot be bought or sold. When a person approaches a health care provider, or anyone else providing a service, and relinquishes their self-responsibility for acquiring at least some knowledge of the problem they are sealing their fate. If you know your engine is always stalling and the mechanic tells you he's done an evaluation and you're crazy, would you keep bringing your car back to him? Kurt Milkowski wrote: When so many people go to see a doctor because they have no idea what is wrong with them and are sent away being told that there is nothing wrong with them all the while the doctor knows but he is lying, that makes them EVIL. I know there may be some that don't have a clue as to whats going on, but if they've been around for a while they know. Kurt Ode Coyote wrote: It's mostly self defense that makes Doctors "toe the official line" If they weren't constantly under attack, they could afford to explore more...but deviate just a
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Hey Carol, What I am doing now is this, trying to give some folks information. As you know most don't like the truth, the truth is uncomfortable. Waking up is hard to do, Niel Sedaka could rewrite a good song there. That has been my job for the last year and a half. The more we get to wake up the better we will be when the shit hits the fan. Kurt Carol Ann wrote: Hey Kurt ~ Re your sis. Forget mistakes. Forget failures. Forget everything except what you're going to do now and do it. ;) Ya know, of course, that by now, what you are experiencing is a learning process which is sometimes very painful but very applicable to the old saying...what doesn't kill you only makes you stronger. The problems you mention are universal, no need to take it personally on the chin in silence or turn the other cheek. Our current system is merely a mirror of societies deeply entrenched belief systems; what people acquiesce to by letting govt,media, perceived gurus (doc's included) demonstrates/mirrors how people have allowed themselves to be used. There has always been way to much complacency...the you do it for me because I don't want to be responsible mentality. Others become the ultimate teachers, bosses, healers. Someone, just tell me what to do mentality! Boils down to ideological worship and foolishness. Is it frustrating. Absolutely. Unfortunately, humans need to be tricked, lied to and deceived before they can become aware. Those that become aware are the better for it. Not to hijack the thread in any way, but I will make a quick reference for to the current state of affairs re the Iraq War as an analogy. People allowed the progression of national affairs in this regard because of complacency, lack of interest, naivety, acquiescence of their voting power, etc, etc. Like it or not..what the medical professions and govt are accused of doing is really reflecting complacency and heinous archaic common beliefs and projecting the drama back. ...which means, for the most part, in many ways, those choosing to remain in acceptance and un-informed, are essentially no better than the accused. "Undirected" anger is imvho just a waste of exceptional and often, very productive energy. Kurt Milkowski wrote:Hey Carol, > I do what I can to let others know. >I should probably let you know that my sister belongs to this group of quacks known as md's. >Whose fault is it for trusting doctors? Mine. Having a sister for an md I >thought I had and in. All pretty funny that I had to suffer for such a long time before waking up. I might seem a bit angry to some about it, and I am. The anger however is mostly at myself for letting myself be decieved. Kurt Carol Ann wrote: Kurt ~ Doctors are no more evil or good based solely upon their profession than say...your local pastor, or service engineer be they mechanics or plumbers. More so when the individual seeking advice is totally ignorant about the service sought. Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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I think Simon is just fed up with the nazi facist attitude of the public as am I. Kurt Richard wrote: Simon, why are you so aggressive ? are you really a tough guy or just pretending . ? What is a "pinch of salt " in your lingo ? Cheer up or chill , please ! Richard On 17/10/2007, at 18:40, Simon Jester wrote: > On 10/17/2007, Dave (ddar...@centurytel.net) wrote: >> Simon: >> Do you consider that Ode just might be "stirring the pot"? >> In the distant past Ode expressed views that weren't that much >> different than yours. > > When someone advocates something like he is advocating, in the > manner and medium that he is, no, don't consider such a possibility. > > If he is, then he is a sick bastard... and I would happily > 'explain' this to him in person. > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > >
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Simon, why are you so aggressive ? are you really a tough guy or just pretending . ? What is a "pinch of salt " in your lingo ? Cheer up or chill , please ! Richard On 17/10/2007, at 18:40, Simon Jester wrote: On 10/17/2007, Dave (ddar...@centurytel.net) wrote: Simon: Do you consider that Ode just might be "stirring the pot"? In the distant past Ode expressed views that weren't that much different than yours. When someone advocates something like he is advocating, in the manner and medium that he is, no, don't consider such a possibility. If he is, then he is a sick bastard... and I would happily 'explain' this to him in person. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Brava Kathryn. Fatih - Original Message - From: "Clayton Family" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:41 PM Subject: Re: CS>Re: Doctors...Simon Simon, please. no one on this list is out to get you. We are all in the same boat, and I think all of us stand firm on our rights to own our own bodies, and use our own judgement, and also respect other's opinions and rights to do the same. Kathryn On Oct 17, 2007, at 11:20 AM, Simon Jester wrote: My beef is with people - like Ode - who believe they have some kind of Right to force their medical beliefs and opinions *and* *practices* on me and my family and friends - and anyone else who claims the Right to own their own life and body. I consider anyone like this my mortal enemy, and will act accordingly should we ever meet and they make their intentions known to me. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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I really think you should stop worrying about seeing doctors because perhaps someday in the not too distant future you won't be able to afford to see them at all. Medicare is paying for fewer and fewer medical services all the time. Faith - Original Message - From: "Simon Jester" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:20 PM Subject: CS>Re: Doctors... Big Insurance is co-mingled with Big Pharma, and has a vested interest in drug profits. Don't forget all of the charitable organizations (like the American Cancer Society, etc ad nauseum), the Medical Industry, in the form of Hospitals, Schools, etc, and last the Government oversight organizations (FDA, FTC, etc)... Yes, there are decent individual doctors. But I stand by my prior statement - If enough of them stood up and filed a lawsuit (RICO), this monstrous house of cards would come crashing down on the heads of these monsters, and many people would go to jail, and many would be put to death (not doctors, corporate criminals and BEURORATS). Our medical profession excels at treating TRAUMA - there is nowhere I'd rather be than in one of our emergency rooms, if I'm in an accident of some kind. But this type of treatment has absolutely *nothing* to do with treating disease. My beef is not with individual doctors - even the cowards. My beef is with people - like Ode - who believe they have some kind of Right to force their medical beliefs and opinions *and* *practices* on me and my family and friends - and anyone else who claims the Right to own their own life and body. I consider anyone like this my mortal enemy, and will act accordingly should we ever meet and they make their intentions known to me. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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On 10/17/2007, Dave (ddar...@centurytel.net) wrote: Simon: Do you consider that Ode just might be "stirring the pot"? In the distant past Ode expressed views that weren't that much different than yours. When someone advocates something like he is advocating, in the manner and medium that he is, no, don't consider such a possibility. If he is, then he is a sick bastard... and I would happily 'explain' this to him in person. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Doctors...Simon
Simon, please. no one on this list is out to get you. We are all in the same boat, and I think all of us stand firm on our rights to own our own bodies, and use our own judgement, and also respect other's opinions and rights to do the same. Kathryn On Oct 17, 2007, at 11:20 AM, Simon Jester wrote: My beef is with people - like Ode - who believe they have some kind of Right to force their medical beliefs and opinions *and* *practices* on me and my family and friends - and anyone else who claims the Right to own their own life and body. I consider anyone like this my mortal enemy, and will act accordingly should we ever meet and they make their intentions known to me. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: Doctors...
Big Insurance is co-mingled with Big Pharma, and has a vested interest in drug profits. Don't forget all of the charitable organizations (like the American Cancer Society, etc ad nauseum), the Medical Industry, in the form of Hospitals, Schools, etc, and last the Government oversight organizations (FDA, FTC, etc)... Yes, there are decent individual doctors. But I stand by my prior statement - If enough of them stood up and filed a lawsuit (RICO), this monstrous house of cards would come crashing down on the heads of these monsters, and many people would go to jail, and many would be put to death (not doctors, corporate criminals and BEURORATS). Our medical profession excels at treating TRAUMA - there is nowhere I'd rather be than in one of our emergency rooms, if I'm in an accident of some kind. But this type of treatment has absolutely *nothing* to do with treating disease. My beef is not with individual doctors - even the cowards. My beef is with people - like Ode - who believe they have some kind of Right to force their medical beliefs and opinions *and* *practices* on me and my family and friends - and anyone else who claims the Right to own their own life and body. I consider anyone like this my mortal enemy, and will act accordingly should we ever meet and they make their intentions known to me. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Doctors...
Simon: Do you consider that Ode just might be "stirring the pot"? In the distant past Ode expressed views that weren't that much different than yours. Dave Simon Jester wrote: Big Insurance is co-mingled with Big Pharma, and has a vested interest in drug profits. Don't forget all of the charitable organizations (like the American Cancer Society, etc ad nauseum), the Medical Industry, in the form of Hospitals, Schools, etc, and last the Government oversight organizations (FDA, FTC, etc)... Yes, there are decent individual doctors. But I stand by my prior statement - If enough of them stood up and filed a lawsuit (RICO), this monstrous house of cards would come crashing down on the heads of these monsters, and many people would go to jail, and many would be put to death (not doctors, corporate criminals and BEURORATS). Our medical profession excels at treating TRAUMA - there is nowhere I'd rather be than in one of our emergency rooms, if I'm in an accident of some kind. But this type of treatment has absolutely *nothing* to do with treating disease. My beef is not with individual doctors - even the cowards. My beef is with people - like Ode - who believe they have some kind of Right to force their medical beliefs and opinions *and* *practices* on me and my family and friends - and anyone else who claims the Right to own their own life and body. I consider anyone like this my mortal enemy, and will act accordingly should we ever meet and they make their intentions known to me. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Doctors...[Carol]
Kurt ~ Question.What do you think about the millions of people who go to doctors with mysterious complaints. They're given a RX because the doctor really dosen't have a definitive diagnosis and is taking their best shot with a drug that they believe might help. The patient has the RX filled and never bothers to read the inserts. When bad reactions happen or their conditions continue worsen or morph and their health deteriorates, they claim to be mystified. So the doc prescribes another RX and the cycle continues. Do you see them as individuals who have a certain amount of responsibility for their own health or should doctors solely shoulder the blame. btw...its not the Apollo oath, its the Hippocratic oath. :) http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/doctors/oath_today.html Kurt Milkowski wrote: Hey Carol, Again, when you realize the oath the doctors take is to the greek gos of destruction, apollo, you may think twice. Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
CS>Doctors, EFA Profile list and Example
Morning Faith, >> At 07:26 AM 10/17/2007, you wrote: What's an EFA profile? Don't feel bad, most doctors do not know. Essential Fatty Acid Profile. There are about 29 items on the list. Mine had to go to the Mayo Clinic. Local Blood Labs cannot usually do it. At age 64, every single item was within the normal range. You can see one here. ( Mine ) http://www.fugitt.com/blood/efa_wf.jpg Try to make it larger with your browser, the copy quality is not good, but it can be read. Not sure what all it proves. Maybe it proves one does not have one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peeling. Wayne "Many people would sooner die than think. In fact they do. http://www.miraclemineral.org/ Silver file Area... http://www.fugitt.com/cs_notes/ MDI Subscribe Email mailto:mdi_news-subscr...@yahoogroups.com -
Re: CS>Doctors...[Carol] - Kurt
Hey Kurt ~ Re your sis. Forget mistakes. Forget failures. Forget everything except what you're going to do now and do it. ;) Ya know, of course, that by now, what you are experiencing is a learning process which is sometimes very painful but very applicable to the old saying...what doesn't kill you only makes you stronger. The problems you mention are universal, no need to take it personally on the chin in silence or turn the other cheek. Our current system is merely a mirror of societies deeply entrenched belief systems; what people acquiesce to by letting govt,media, perceived gurus (doc's included) demonstrates/mirrors how people have allowed themselves to be used. There has always been way to much complacency...the you do it for me because I don't want to be responsible mentality. Others become the ultimate teachers, bosses, healers. Someone, just tell me what to do mentality! Boils down to ideological worship and foolishness. Is it frustrating. Absolutely. Unfortunately, humans need to be tricked, lied to and deceived before they can become aware. Those that become aware are the better for it. Not to hijack the thread in any way, but I will make a quick reference for to the current state of affairs re the Iraq War as an analogy. People allowed the progression of national affairs in this regard because of complacency, lack of interest, naivety, acquiescence of their voting power, etc, etc. Like it or not..what the medical professions and govt are accused of doing is really reflecting complacency and heinous archaic common beliefs and projecting the drama back. ...which means, for the most part, in many ways, those choosing to remain in acceptance and un-informed, are essentially no better than the accused. "Undirected" anger is imvho just a waste of exceptional and often, very productive energy. Kurt Milkowski wrote: Hey Carol, > I do what I can to let others know. >I should probably let you know that my sister belongs to this group of quacks known as md's. >Whose fault is it for trusting doctors? Mine. Having a sister for an md I >thought I had and in. All pretty funny that I had to suffer for such a long time before waking up. I might seem a bit angry to some about it, and I am. The anger however is mostly at myself for letting myself be decieved. Kurt Carol Ann wrote: Kurt ~ Doctors are no more evil or good based solely upon their profession than say...your local pastor, or service engineer be they mechanics or plumbers. More so when the individual seeking advice is totally ignorant about the service sought. Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CS>Doctors...
Not a bad idea Wayne, from one silly carpenter to a goofy ole' technician. Kurt CWFugitt wrote: Morning Kurt, >>At 06:31 AM 10/17/2007, you wrote: > First realize the these "wonderful" doctors make an oath to apollo, the > greek god of destruction. I am only a goofy old technician and my first rule is "Do thy patient no harm". I guess we need to print up a few thousand of these oaths that doctors take and scatter them around the shopping centers and the doctors office Or cram a few down their throats. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
