Re: MCT Fund Update 7/31 AM
>At the start of this, my main thoughts were with the particulate size and >effectiveness, is the size a factor in how well it works. Are we back to having >no real way to discern this measuring process now? or is there still some way >this will be able to be tested. Someone with lots of time would be needed for >the subsequent tests on down from that level.We "know" it works, but the >retailers of CS are telling multiple versions of why THEIR'S works best. We >need to be able to tell ourselves and newcomers needing help the answer to >this. Maybe we could turn some mice blue in the meantime:). Deb Good idea, hey I have an old wild cat that keeps comming around. Humm I could be the only person on the block with a BLUE cat... :] For those that are animal rights activists I'M ONLY KIDDING!!! Take Care Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: MCT Fund Update 7/31 AM
Robert L. Wells wrote: > Although it appears that there is evidence that some silver > products either kill bacteria or limit its growth, I want to > know how a home-made brew stacks up. I agree that we need > to define the manufacturing process and quality standards of > what we test. At the start of this, my main thoughts were with the particulate size and effectiveness, is the size a factor in how well it works. Are we back to having no real way to discern this measuring process now? or is there still some way this will be able to be tested. Someone with lots of time would be needed for the subsequent tests on down from that level.We "know" it works, but the retailers of CS are telling multiple versions of why THEIR'S works best. We need to be able to tell ourselves and newcomers needing help the answer to this. Maybe we could turn some mice blue in the meantime:). Deb -- Debbie McDonald mailto:lullw...@flash.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
MCT Fund Update 7/31 AM
There were no updates on 7/30. More funds have been pledged. They are shown below. First, however, an editorial comment in response to bjs' concerns (which I appreciate): >There are those that want other people to tell them what >to do with their money, and there are those that would >like to make that decision for themselves. We should >error on the safe side. Just think of it as a little tax cut for >the already over exceeded goal. I guess this is unpopular >with the higher ups around here. It is really starting to turn >me off to be honest. We as a group can do anything we >want, and we will. Once they start controlling the money, >there will be none. Let's keep it clean as we can. >bjs As the instigator of the MCT idea, and having inherited the responsibility to track the pledges, my policy is the following: The pledges being listed as part of an MCT Fund are for the purpose of testing home brewed colloidal silver (possibly compared to a commercial brand) for either bacteriostatic properties (limiting growth/reproduction of bacteria) or for bactericidal properties (ability to kill bacteria). Pledges can be made or withdrawn at any time until a decision is made and money is sent. Decisions will be made by unanimous vote. Anyone not voting or disenting, when the time comes, will be considered to have withdrawn their pledge. Lab tests will not be done and checks will not be cashed until the final committed amount has been received. I will publicly disclose what funds have been received once we get to that point. I will respect anyone's desires to remain anonymous, but will still disclose the amounts accordingly. Therefore, I concur with M. Devour's opinion that funds for different purposes be kept separate. I don't want to be involved in collecting or reallocating money for Jim's efforts, mostly because it could be too complicated and messy. I've put my money where my mouth is. I think Jim's work is valuable. I think it deserves to be supported financially. I've sent $50 to Jim Einert and I've restated my $50 pledge to the Microbial Challenge Test. I recommit myself to obtaining solid proposals for the MCT from one or more labs. Although it appears that there is evidence that some silver products either kill bacteria or limit its growth, I want to know how a home-made brew stacks up. I agree that we need to define the manufacturing process and quality standards of what we test. Please, don't anyone feel forced or coerced to support any efforts by members of this group in any particular direction. When the time comes, you'll do your real voting with your checkbook, after using your brain and your heart. Until then, all pledges are simply an indication of the level of support you feel you can give, assuming you agree with the direction most of us choose to go in. Based on responses to date, the support for a microbial test is clear. Before anyone sends a red cent, I'll give you enough information to hang me high if I'm irresponsible with your precious resources, and I promise to account publicly and meticulously for every penny. I will also report the results publicly for everyone's benefit. Bob Wells The latest MCT pledge is now $635: Bob Leel...@fbtc.net$20.00 Tom Young tyo...@esslink.com $20.00 Bruce K. Stenulson stenul...@amigo.net $20.00 Paul Bembower bembo...@fastrans.net$20.00 M. G. Devour mdev...@mail.id.net $20.00 Nick Ferraro trans...@aol.com $50.00 Sandi swoinow...@plix.com $50.00 Michael Mahoneymmaho...@eoni.com$20.00 Bill VSbill...@cheerful.com $20.00 Jerry WineBrenner win...@aol.com $20.00 Whitney Collinsxanadu...@email.msn.com $20.00 D. K. Masontvst...@worldlink.net$10.00 Fidget fid...@warwick.net $10.00 Robert Wells robert.we...@ny.ubs.com $50.00 George N. Allengal...@cpcug.org $20.00 W. D. Cavanaughchuck...@iamerica.net$10.00 Debbie McDonaldlullw...@flash.net $10.00 Marsha Hallett liah...@pacbell.net $20.00 Dameon likow...@earthlink.net $20.00 Dean Woodward woodw...@educelec.com$20.00 George george.bere...@nashville.com $20.00 George Martin gmar...@usonet.ne.jp $50.00 Douglas McMurtrie dmcmu...@bellatlantic.net$50.00 Jeff Lafavre jeff_lafa...@ameritech.net $20.00 Donna Earnestmariedo...@worldnet.att.net$10.00 Sharonstars...@worldaxes.com$15.00 Anonymous1 $20.00
MCT Fund Update
Closing in on the mark folks! Just absolutely wonderful. Lets bring it on home. The tentative target is $400.00 based on Bob Well's original contact. This number will get more specific as we get test specs and pricing from the labs. For now the fund stands as follows: Whitney Collinsxanadu...@email.msn.com - $20.00 D. K. Masontvst...@worldlink.net - $10.00 Fidget fid...@warwick.net - $10.00 Robert Wells robert.we...@ny.ubs.com - $50.00 George N. Allengal...@cpcug.org- $20.00 W. D. Cavanaughchuck...@iamerica.net - $10.00 Debbie McDonaldlullw...@flash.net - $10.00 Marsha Hallett liah...@pacbell.net - $20.00 Dameon likow...@earthlink.net - $20.00 Dean Woodward woodw...@educelec.com - $20.00 George george.bere...@nashville.com- $20.00 George Martin gmar...@usonet.ne.jp- $50.00 Douglas McMurtrie dmcmu...@bellatlantic.net - $50.00 ___ Total to Date $ 310.00 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: MCT Fund Update
Put me down for $10 as that's all I can afford right now; wish it could be more. Let me know where to send my check. Fidget Douglas McMurtrie wrote: > > OK, it seems that we have at least some interest in getting our own > testing done, so for now let's press on. > > Thanks to all who've pledged. Almost half way there already!! > > Anyone hear from Bob Wells yet? > > Also, again, please hold all checks until we reach the magic number and > work out all the logistics. > > For now the fund stands as follows: > > Debbie McDonaldlullw...@flash.net - $10.00 > Marsha Hallett liah...@pacbell.net - $20.00 > Dameon likow...@earthlink.net - $20.00 > Dean Woodward woodw...@educelec.com - $20.00 > George george.bere...@nashville.com- $20.00 > George Martin gmar...@usonet.ne.jp- $50.00 > Douglas McMurtrie dmcmu...@bellatlantic.net - $50.00 > ___ > > Total to Date $ 190.00 > > For CHC and any other newcomers: > We are collecting pledges to handle the cost of laboratory testing of CS > at different concentrations against different pathogens > > For George Martin: > I agree that knowing the blood levels vs the ingested levels would be > very valuable info. Maybe after this is done we could have a volunteer > take a very specific dose on a daily basis for a month then have their > blood tested for CS levels. I would be more than happy to serve as the > guinea pig myself. > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
MCT Fund Update
For CHC and any other newcomers: We are collecting pledges to handle the cost of laboratory testing of CS at different concentrations against different pathogens Are we talking about in petri dishes? Like doing Lab Culture & Sensitivity studies??? Who will do the tests? Thanks for the clarification guys. I am just trying to get up to speed. Does anyone know, or has anyone read anything about HOW the CS works? Colloidal Silver was used for years for different problems, infections, diseases, etc, do you think dosage and treatment info would be available in archives somewhere Does anyone have any ideas about this???. Thank you in advance. chc -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
MCT Fund Update
Fantastic response!! Past half way!! I'll be away for a few days so I can't promise when I'll have the next update available. It shouldn't be any later than Monday though. Have a nice weekend, Doug. For now the fund stands as follows: George N. Allengal...@cpcug.org- $20.00 W. D. Cavanaughchuck...@iamerica.net - $10.00 Debbie McDonaldlullw...@flash.net - $10.00 Marsha Hallett liah...@pacbell.net - $20.00 Dameon likow...@earthlink.net - $20.00 Dean Woodward woodw...@educelec.com - $20.00 George george.bere...@nashville.com- $20.00 George Martin gmar...@usonet.ne.jp- $50.00 Douglas McMurtrie dmcmu...@bellatlantic.net - $50.00 ___ Total to Date $ 220.00 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
MCT Fund Update
OK, it seems that we have at least some interest in getting our own testing done, so for now let's press on. Thanks to all who've pledged. Almost half way there already!! Anyone hear from Bob Wells yet? Also, again, please hold all checks until we reach the magic number and work out all the logistics. For now the fund stands as follows: Debbie McDonaldlullw...@flash.net - $10.00 Marsha Hallett liah...@pacbell.net - $20.00 Dameon likow...@earthlink.net - $20.00 Dean Woodward woodw...@educelec.com - $20.00 George george.bere...@nashville.com- $20.00 George Martin gmar...@usonet.ne.jp- $50.00 Douglas McMurtrie dmcmu...@bellatlantic.net - $50.00 ___ Total to Date $ 190.00 For CHC and any other newcomers: We are collecting pledges to handle the cost of laboratory testing of CS at different concentrations against different pathogens For George Martin: I agree that knowing the blood levels vs the ingested levels would be very valuable info. Maybe after this is done we could have a volunteer take a very specific dose on a daily basis for a month then have their blood tested for CS levels. I would be more than happy to serve as the guinea pig myself. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
