Re: CSBeck zapper
I'm curious if anyone was able to identify any of these improved designs mentioned by Brooks? -Alan On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.comwrote: The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has been in our researches), however, * there are...at present..several other---more recent designs; more powerful in effect than is the original device developed by Robert*. A brief survey of the Internet using zapper as the key word, will illicit a number of valid references. If you are unsuccessful email me personally and I will attempt to offer some useful guidance in your search. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Harborne Research Foundation. -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
Re: CSBeck Zapper for Renal Support
Me too please I have a friend in urgent need of kidney help - lost one due to surgical mishap removing a tumour and now the 2nd kidney is ailing + another tumour on the kidneyless adrenal :( - Original Message - From: David AuBuchon To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 8:23 AM Subject: Re: CSBeck Zapper for Renal Support If you could send it to me I would appreciate it. Or why not just share it with the group? On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Jared De la Torriente jarochoda...@hotmail.com wrote: joy,i read some literature about using silver hidrosol -- ionic silver to perform tratment of renal issue, they did it by spraying bout 3 5 times a day a ionic silver solution directly into the rectum. this clerared the simptoms in matter of days. ill happyly send all the literature i have on it if you like. just semd me a PV email. NAMASTE: --Forwarded Message Attachment-- Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 06:56:19 +0200 From: 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSBeck Zapper for Renal Support Does anyone know if there's a protocol that would be beneficial for renal regeneration? If only to clean the blood, I am looking now for a zapper - Beck or other. If someone has a device in working order and would like to donate it to my friend, please let me know. We do not have much money to spare as most of it is going towards supplements and diagnostics, we both live on fixed incomes which is making finding a cure rather challenging. If at possible, perhaps we can barter. I can record an angelic chant of 3 Hebrew Psalms of your choice or if you prefer to allow me to choose that for you based on Kabbalistic assessment. All recordings are done from the Holy Land and are geared individually to the individual and the intent is only for the higher good and transformation of darkness into light. If interested in this barter, please send me an email. Thank you very much,Joy --The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribeArchives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.comList Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4796 - Release Date: 02/08/12
Re: CSBeck Zapper for Renal Support
Joy you may want to try taking zeolite, if you are not already. Zeolite has a great affinity for the kidneys. I did a lot of research into it a few years back and though some people have only gotten results when taking the expensive MLM product NCD (natural cellular defense) liquid zeolite, I know many who have been greatly helped by just taking the powdered zeolite. In fact, a 65 year old friend of mine told me that her doctor had done some tests on her and told her that her kidney function was down to only one third capacity. He said they would not put her on any medicine but that if it dropped any lower she'd have to go on dialysis! She was very worried. I told her about my research into zeolite and she decided to try the powder. She bought it on line. She did not like the taste of mixing it into any liquid so she wound up filling capsules with it. She took 6 capsules, twice a day, which worked out to one tablespoon twice a day. In one month's time she went back for more kidney tests and her doctor was astounded because her kidney function had gone up to 95%!! She continued to take the capsules for one more month and then she quit. This was 2 years ago and she's still fine. I will say that the zeolite has gone up in cost a great deal since she purchased hers over 2 years ago now, but still you get a lot for the money--able to take it for a long time before you run out, if you get a couple pounds. Don't let all the hype fool you as to 'my brand is better than any other brand'. Zeolite is zeolite. The only difference is in the fineness of the powder. Some grind very fine and others not as fine. That really doesn't make a lot of difference in effectiveness either, so get the cheapest you can get without buying chunks. Although--I knew one guy that lived in an area that sold pure zeolite cat litter in 20 pound bags. He would buy that and grind it himself in his blender and took that zeolite.It's all the same. You can put it into capsules as my friend did, or you can just stir some into liquid and drink it. Some people buy the super fine grade and just put a spoonful in their mouth and let it melt that way. You can buy liquid zeolite, which is zeolite dissolved in water. I have to say that I have known a couple people that said they tried the powdered zeolite and didn't get any results but bought any liquid zeo and saved their kidneys. Then I met a couple people that said they tried the powder without results, and regular liquid zeo without results, but when they tried the expensive NCD they saved their kidneys. So--it may be that you'd have to try a few brands, but I would start with the powdered. It works in, I'd say at least 90% of the cases. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Does anyone know if there's a protocol that would be beneficial for renal regeneration? happy.gif
RE: CSBeck Zapper for Renal Support
Hi Renee, Is the zeolite dissolved in water or suspended in it? It would make a difference to me. Thanks. PT From: gaiac...@gmail.com [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:40 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck Zapper for Renal Support Joy you may want to try taking zeolite, if you are not already. Zeolite has a great affinity for the kidneys. I did a lot of research into it a few years back and though some people have only gotten results when taking the expensive MLM product NCD (natural cellular defense) liquid zeolite, I know many who have been greatly helped by just taking the powdered zeolite. In fact, a 65 year old friend of mine told me that her doctor had done some tests on her and told her that her kidney function was down to only one third capacity. He said they would not put her on any medicine but that if it dropped any lower she'd have to go on dialysis! She was very worried. I told her about my research into zeolite and she decided to try the powder. She bought it on line. She did not like the taste of mixing it into any liquid so she wound up filling capsules with it. She took 6 capsules, twice a day, which worked out to one tablespoon twice a day. In one month's time she went back for more kidney tests and her doctor was astounded because her kidney function had gone up to 95%!! She continued to take the capsules for one more month and then she quit. This was 2 years ago and she's still fine. I will say that the zeolite has gone up in cost a great deal since she purchased hers over 2 years ago now, but still you get a lot for the money--able to take it for a long time before you run out, if you get a couple pounds. Don't let all the hype fool you as to 'my brand is better than any other brand'. Zeolite is zeolite. The only difference is in the fineness of the powder. Some grind very fine and others not as fine. That really doesn't make a lot of difference in effectiveness either, so get the cheapest you can get without buying chunks. Although--I knew one guy that lived in an area that sold pure zeolite cat litter in 20 pound bags. He would buy that and grind it himself in his blender and took that zeolite.It's all the same. You can put it into capsules as my friend did, or you can just stir some into liquid and drink it. Some people buy the super fine grade and just put a spoonful in their mouth and let it melt that way. You can buy liquid zeolite, which is zeolite dissolved in water. I have to say that I have known a couple people that said they tried the powdered zeolite and didn't get any results but bought any liquid zeo and saved their kidneys. Then I met a couple people that said they tried the powder without results, and regular liquid zeo without results, but when they tried the expensive NCD they saved their kidneys. So--it may be that you'd have to try a few brands, but I would start with the powdered. It works in, I'd say at least 90% of the cases. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Does anyone know if there's a protocol that would be beneficial for renal regeneration? No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4796 - Release Date: 02/08/12 image001.gif
RE: CSBeck Zapper for Renal Support
Beats the heck out of me. When it's 'home made' it is more like clay in the water--it mixes but there's residue on the bottom of the glass. I have not seen any other commercial liquid zeo but I have seen the liquid NCD zeo and it is perfectly clear. They claim a proprietary method of getting the zeo and water to meld. shrug The lady my friend and I bought from (who is no longer in the powdered business, having switched over to becoming an NCD distributor) said that she brushed her teeth with zeo and also would take a spoonfull in her mouth and let it just melt there. She had a great, super fine powder. That's the one we bought, though I mix mine in water. My friend didn't like the taste of it in water and didn't like the feel of it in her mouth just taking some off a spoon, so put it into caps. As I said--I know of 2 people that said they tried powder, then commercial liquid and neither worked, but when they took NCD it worked and saved their kidneys. My father was diabetic and though he did not have kidney problems (he had vision problems) I thought I'd put him on NCD based on their recommendations. But I never gave him anything without taking it myself first to see what it did. Since I am not ill I thought I'd be best off to take their 'jump start' protocol, which is one bottle--normally a month's supply--in just ten days. They said that everyone would see some type of result from this. I took the bottle in the 10 days and felt/saw absolutely nothing. So I never bothered giving it to my Dad. But each person is different and perhaps NCD just wasn't a fit for me. Thinking about it now I should have went ahead and tried it on Dad, but it was very expensive--too expensive for something I felt didn't work (for me). Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Hi Renee, Is the zeolite dissolved in water or suspended in it? It would make a difference to me.
RE: CSBeck Zapper for Renal Support
Thanks. PT From: gaiac...@gmail.com [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:12 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBeck Zapper for Renal Support Beats the heck out of me. When it's 'home made' it is more like clay in the water--it mixes but there's residue on the bottom of the glass. I have not seen any other commercial liquid zeo but I have seen the liquid NCD zeo and it is perfectly clear. They claim a proprietary method of getting the zeo and water to meld. shrug The lady my friend and I bought from (who is no longer in the powdered business, having switched over to becoming an NCD distributor) said that she brushed her teeth with zeo and also would take a spoonfull in her mouth and let it just melt there. She had a great, super fine powder. That's the one we bought, though I mix mine in water. My friend didn't like the taste of it in water and didn't like the feel of it in her mouth just taking some off a spoon, so put it into caps. As I said--I know of 2 people that said they tried powder, then commercial liquid and neither worked, but when they took NCD it worked and saved their kidneys. My father was diabetic and though he did not have kidney problems (he had vision problems) I thought I'd put him on NCD based on their recommendations. But I never gave him anything without taking it myself first to see what it did. Since I am not ill I thought I'd be best off to take their 'jump start' protocol, which is one bottle--normally a month's supply--in just ten days. They said that everyone would see some type of result from this. I took the bottle in the 10 days and felt/saw absolutely nothing. So I never bothered giving it to my Dad. But each person is different and perhaps NCD just wasn't a fit for me. Thinking about it now I should have went ahead and tried it on Dad, but it was very expensive--too expensive for something I felt didn't work (for me). Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Hi Renee, Is the zeolite dissolved in water or suspended in it? It would make a difference to me. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4796 - Release Date: 02/08/12
Re: CSBeck Zapper for Renal Support
If you could send it to me I would appreciate it. Or why not just share it with the group? On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Jared De la Torriente jarochoda...@hotmail.com wrote: joy,i read some literature about using silver hidrosol -- ionic silver to perform tratment of renal issue, they did it by spraying bout 3 5 times a day a ionic silver solution directly into the rectum. this clerared the simptoms in matter of days. ill happyly send all the literature i have on it if you like. just semd me a PV email. NAMASTE: -- --Forwarded Message Attachment-- Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 06:56:19 +0200 From: 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSBeck Zapper for Renal Support Does anyone know if there's a protocol that would be beneficial for renal regeneration? If only to clean the blood, I am looking now for a zapper - Beck or other. If someone has a device in working order and would like to donate it to my friend, please let me know. We do not have much money to spare as most of it is going towards supplements and diagnostics, we both live on fixed incomes which is making finding a cure rather challenging. If at possible, perhaps we can barter. I can record an angelic chant of 3 Hebrew Psalms of your choice or if you prefer to allow me to choose that for you based on Kabbalistic assessment. All recordings are done from the Holy Land and are geared individually to the individual and the intent is only for the higher good and transformation of darkness into light. If interested in this barter, please send me an email. Thank you very much, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBeck zapper
website not working.maybe sold or incorrect -- From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBeck zapper Another website, www.frex.com has a set of the zapper frequencies in the free software you can download. Just hook up an amp and some wires and electrodes (sponges, handhelds or otherwise) and you are good to go. PT -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator operating at about 30KHz. This is the same as her old schematic for a zapper. I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each electrode. I guess that is as clear as mud... Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't know if it is any better or not. But much more expensive as it is a really fancy electronic device. Dan On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote: Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so. I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of months at first and then less and less frequently. So please tell us more about zappers . . . thanks, Joyce On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for shingles. The more longstanding the shingles episode was before zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months long) within a few weeks. My son had an episode of infectious mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to him. He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping. For all practical purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or need any period of extended rest, or anything like that. So, it definitely works on some things. I would not hesitate to use it on someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well, such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed with some DMSO. Dan On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but neglected to use it. I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually beleive that it could work. Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it, so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes.. any testimonies...??? thanks again. -- From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has been in our researches), however, there are...at present..several other---more recent designs; more powerful in effect than is the original device developed by Robert. A brief survey of the Internet using zapper as the key word, will illicit a number of valid references. If you are unsuccessful email me personally and I will attempt to offer some useful guidance in your search. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Harborne Research Foundation. On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi group, Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share As I want to use one on my mate with the boils if it's potentially effective Thanks Sent from my iPhone -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Self care is never a selfish act – it is simply good stewardship of the only gift that I have.” Parker Palmer http://dearjubilee-joyce.blogspot.com
RE: CSBeck zapper
My fault, www.frex.com.au Sorry. PT -Original Message- From: Asif Nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:11 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper website not working.maybe sold or incorrect -- From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBeck zapper Another website, www.frex.com has a set of the zapper frequencies in the free software you can download. Just hook up an amp and some wires and electrodes (sponges, handhelds or otherwise) and you are good to go. PT -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator operating at about 30KHz. This is the same as her old schematic for a zapper. I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each electrode. I guess that is as clear as mud... Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't know if it is any better or not. But much more expensive as it is a really fancy electronic device. Dan On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote: Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so. I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of months at first and then less and less frequently. So please tell us more about zappers . . . thanks, Joyce On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for shingles. The more longstanding the shingles episode was before zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months long) within a few weeks. My son had an episode of infectious mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to him. He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping. For all practical purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or need any period of extended rest, or anything like that. So, it definitely works on some things. I would not hesitate to use it on someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well, such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed with some DMSO. Dan On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but neglected to use it. I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually beleive that it could work. Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it, so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes.. any testimonies...??? thanks again. -- From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has been in our researches), however, there are...at present..several other---more recent designs; more powerful in effect than is the original device developed by Robert. A brief survey of the Internet using zapper as the key word, will illicit a number of valid references. If you are unsuccessful email me personally and I will attempt to offer some useful guidance in your search. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Harborne Research Foundation. On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi group, Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share As I want to use one on my mate with the boils if it's potentially effective Thanks Sent from my iPhone -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com
Re: CSBeck zapper
They have a rife amplifier for sale and also a diagram that can be used by a sound or signal generater , looks like my next project. The ic will do frequencies to 25mhz flat curve! Impressive but most rife frequencies are usually in the audio range so I may use a regular opamp for now to test the concept A regular 741 chip and it's variants will do to 1mhz easily which is what's required, also available and cheap! Will build and see if it has enough voltage and current output to sense a decent tingle at least I tested a car audio amp I had originally bought for this purpose and it's output curve was awful so it wouldn't be a good idea to use it for this purpose since it could either shock you silly or become weak depending on the frequency. This is independent of what your own nerves are sensitive to. So I will stay away from the audio amp since I don't fancy modifying it to make it behave. I may actually use it as an audio amp instead ! Sent from my iPhone On 7 Feb 2012, at 19:52, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: My fault, www.frex.com.au Sorry. PT -Original Message- From: Asif Nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:11 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper website not working.maybe sold or incorrect -- From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBeck zapper Another website, www.frex.com has a set of the zapper frequencies in the free software you can download. Just hook up an amp and some wires and electrodes (sponges, handhelds or otherwise) and you are good to go. PT -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator operating at about 30KHz. This is the same as her old schematic for a zapper. I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each electrode. I guess that is as clear as mud... Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't know if it is any better or not. But much more expensive as it is a really fancy electronic device. Dan On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote: Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so. I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of months at first and then less and less frequently. So please tell us more about zappers . . . thanks, Joyce On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for shingles. The more longstanding the shingles episode was before zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months long) within a few weeks. My son had an episode of infectious mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to him. He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping. For all practical purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or need any period of extended rest, or anything like that. So, it definitely works on some things. I would not hesitate to use it on someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well, such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed with some DMSO. Dan On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but neglected to use it. I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually beleive that it could work. Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it, so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes.. any testimonies...??? thanks again. -- From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper The Beck
RE: CSBeck zapper
It is my understanding that audio amps are inappropriate to do the job... but I'm no expert. Bil Green would be better equipped to answer your questions. PT -Original Message- From: asif nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 5:13 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper They have a rife amplifier for sale and also a diagram that can be used by a sound or signal generater , looks like my next project. The ic will do frequencies to 25mhz flat curve! Impressive but most rife frequencies are usually in the audio range so I may use a regular opamp for now to test the concept A regular 741 chip and it's variants will do to 1mhz easily which is what's required, also available and cheap! Will build and see if it has enough voltage and current output to sense a decent tingle at least I tested a car audio amp I had originally bought for this purpose and it's output curve was awful so it wouldn't be a good idea to use it for this purpose since it could either shock you silly or become weak depending on the frequency. This is independent of what your own nerves are sensitive to. So I will stay away from the audio amp since I don't fancy modifying it to make it behave. I may actually use it as an audio amp instead ! Sent from my iPhone On 7 Feb 2012, at 19:52, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: My fault, www.frex.com.au Sorry. PT -Original Message- From: Asif Nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:11 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper website not working.maybe sold or incorrect -- From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBeck zapper Another website, www.frex.com has a set of the zapper frequencies in the free software you can download. Just hook up an amp and some wires and electrodes (sponges, handhelds or otherwise) and you are good to go. PT -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator operating at about 30KHz. This is the same as her old schematic for a zapper. I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each electrode. I guess that is as clear as mud... Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't know if it is any better or not. But much more expensive as it is a really fancy electronic device. Dan On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote: Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so. I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of months at first and then less and less frequently. So please tell us more about zappers . . . thanks, Joyce On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for shingles. The more longstanding the shingles episode was before zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months long) within a few weeks. My son had an episode of infectious mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to him. He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping. For all practical purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or need any period of extended rest, or anything like that. So, it definitely works on some things. I would not hesitate to use it on someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well, such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed with some DMSO. Dan On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but neglected to use it. I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually beleive that it could work. Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it, so that i could use it the same way. I have bought
RE: CSBeck zapper
Sorry, Bil is on a different list... PT -Original Message- From: PTFerrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 6:35 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBeck zapper It is my understanding that audio amps are inappropriate to do the job... but I'm no expert. Bil Green would be better equipped to answer your questions. PT -Original Message- From: asif nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 5:13 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper They have a rife amplifier for sale and also a diagram that can be used by a sound or signal generater , looks like my next project. The ic will do frequencies to 25mhz flat curve! Impressive but most rife frequencies are usually in the audio range so I may use a regular opamp for now to test the concept A regular 741 chip and it's variants will do to 1mhz easily which is what's required, also available and cheap! Will build and see if it has enough voltage and current output to sense a decent tingle at least I tested a car audio amp I had originally bought for this purpose and it's output curve was awful so it wouldn't be a good idea to use it for this purpose since it could either shock you silly or become weak depending on the frequency. This is independent of what your own nerves are sensitive to. So I will stay away from the audio amp since I don't fancy modifying it to make it behave. I may actually use it as an audio amp instead ! Sent from my iPhone On 7 Feb 2012, at 19:52, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: My fault, www.frex.com.au Sorry. PT -Original Message- From: Asif Nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:11 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper website not working.maybe sold or incorrect -- From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBeck zapper Another website, www.frex.com has a set of the zapper frequencies in the free software you can download. Just hook up an amp and some wires and electrodes (sponges, handhelds or otherwise) and you are good to go. PT -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator operating at about 30KHz. This is the same as her old schematic for a zapper. I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each electrode. I guess that is as clear as mud... Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't know if it is any better or not. But much more expensive as it is a really fancy electronic device. Dan On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote: Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so. I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of months at first and then less and less frequently. So please tell us more about zappers . . . thanks, Joyce On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for shingles. The more longstanding the shingles episode was before zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months long) within a few weeks. My son had an episode of infectious mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to him. He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping. For all practical purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or need any period of extended rest, or anything like that. So, it definitely works on some things. I would not hesitate to use it on someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well, such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed with some DMSO. Dan On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but neglected to use it. I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper could work
Re: CSBeck zapper
I will report my progress for the groups interest Sent from my iPhone On 7 Feb 2012, at 23:40, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: Sorry, Bil is on a different list... PT -Original Message- From: PTFerrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 6:35 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBeck zapper It is my understanding that audio amps are inappropriate to do the job... but I'm no expert. Bil Green would be better equipped to answer your questions. PT -Original Message- From: asif nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 5:13 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper They have a rife amplifier for sale and also a diagram that can be used by a sound or signal generater , looks like my next project. The ic will do frequencies to 25mhz flat curve! Impressive but most rife frequencies are usually in the audio range so I may use a regular opamp for now to test the concept A regular 741 chip and it's variants will do to 1mhz easily which is what's required, also available and cheap! Will build and see if it has enough voltage and current output to sense a decent tingle at least I tested a car audio amp I had originally bought for this purpose and it's output curve was awful so it wouldn't be a good idea to use it for this purpose since it could either shock you silly or become weak depending on the frequency. This is independent of what your own nerves are sensitive to. So I will stay away from the audio amp since I don't fancy modifying it to make it behave. I may actually use it as an audio amp instead ! Sent from my iPhone On 7 Feb 2012, at 19:52, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: My fault, www.frex.com.au Sorry. PT -Original Message- From: Asif Nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:11 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper website not working.maybe sold or incorrect -- From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBeck zapper Another website, www.frex.com has a set of the zapper frequencies in the free software you can download. Just hook up an amp and some wires and electrodes (sponges, handhelds or otherwise) and you are good to go. PT -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator operating at about 30KHz. This is the same as her old schematic for a zapper. I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each electrode. I guess that is as clear as mud... Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't know if it is any better or not. But much more expensive as it is a really fancy electronic device. Dan On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote: Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so. I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of months at first and then less and less frequently. So please tell us more about zappers . . . thanks, Joyce On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for shingles. The more longstanding the shingles episode was before zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months long) within a few weeks. My son had an episode of infectious mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to him. He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping. For all practical purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or need any period of extended rest, or anything like that. So, it definitely works on some things. I would not hesitate to use it on someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well, such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed with some DMSO. Dan On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive 9-18v
Re: CSBeck Zapper for Renal Support
There were a lot of good options in the previous thread on kidney failure if you ask me. Ubiquinol I think is the foremost. Better, but more expensive would be liposomal ubiquinol. Then Kibow Probiotics was another one. Sorry, I don't know any one-time-cost approaches for kidney failure however... On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 8:56 PM, 2 Words Production 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know if there's a protocol that would be beneficial for renal regeneration? If only to clean the blood, I am looking now for a zapper - Beck or other. If someone has a device in working order and would like to donate it to my friend, please let me know. We do not have much money to spare as most of it is going towards supplements and diagnostics, we both live on fixed incomes which is making finding a cure rather challenging. If at possible, perhaps we can barter. I can record an angelic chant of 3 Hebrew Psalms of your choice or if you prefer to allow me to choose that for you based on Kabbalistic assessment. All recordings are done from the Holy Land and are geared individually to the individual and the intent is only for the higher good and transformation of darkness into light. If interested in this barter, please send me an email. Thank you very much, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-request@**eskimo.com silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com ?subject=**unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/**silver-list@eskimo.com/** maillist.htmlhttp://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-list@**eskimo.comsilver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBeck zapper
I made my own Zapper both the bob beck type and Hilda Clark type Sorry I cannot recommend places to purchase since commercial units quality vary too much as much as their claims, which is mostly why i made my to be sure of what I have. Sent from my iPhone On 6 Feb 2012, at 04:06, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote: Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so. I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of months at first and then less and less frequently. So please tell us more about zappers . . . thanks, Joyce On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for shingles. The more longstanding the shingles episode was before zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months long) within a few weeks. My son had an episode of infectious mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to him. He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping. For all practical purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or need any period of extended rest, or anything like that. So, it definitely works on some things. I would not hesitate to use it on someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well, such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed with some DMSO. Dan On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but neglected to use it. I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually beleive that it could work. Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it, so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes.. any testimonies...??? thanks again. -- From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has been in our researches), however, there are...at present..several other---more recent designs; more powerful in effect than is the original device developed by Robert. A brief survey of the Internet using zapper as the key word, will illicit a number of valid references. If you are unsuccessful email me personally and I will attempt to offer some useful guidance in your search. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Harborne Research Foundation. On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi group, Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share As I want to use one on my mate with the boils if it's potentially effective Thanks Sent from my iPhone -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Self care is never a selfish act – it is simply good stewardship of the only gift that I have.” Parker Palmer http://dearjubilee-joyce.blogspot.com www.dearjubilee.com
Re: CSBeck zapper
I have designs for both zappers should anyone require them.
Sent from my iPhone
On 6 Feb 2012, at 04:28, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:
I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator
operating at about 30KHz. This is the same as her old schematic for a
zapper. I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each
electrode.
I guess that is as clear as mud...
Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't
know if it is any better or not. But much more expensive as it is a
really fancy electronic device.
Dan
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall
bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so.
I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so
since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I
did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of
months at first and then less and less frequently.
So please tell us more about zappers . . .
thanks,
Joyce
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:
I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for
shingles. The more longstanding the shingles episode was before
zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh
outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months
long) within a few weeks. My son had an episode of infectious
mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to
him. He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol
and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping. For all practical
purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or
need any period of extended rest, or anything like that. So, it
definitely works on some things. I would not hesitate to use it on
someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well,
such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed
with some DMSO.
Dan
On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com
wrote:
I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive
27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to
100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects
I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive
9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but
neglected to use it.
I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper
could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually
beleive that it could work.
Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it,
so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel
electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes..
any testimonies...???
thanks again.
--
From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper
The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has
been in our researches), however,
there are...at present..several other---more recent designs; more
powerful in effect than is the original
device developed by Robert. A brief survey of the Internet using
zapper as the key word, will illicit
a number of valid references. If you are unsuccessful email me
personally and I will attempt to offer
some useful guidance in your search.
Sincerely,
Brooks Bradley. Harborne Research Foundation.
On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com
wrote:
Hi group,
Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share
As I want to use one on my mate with the boils if it's potentially
effective
Thanks
Sent from my iPhone
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Re: CSBeck zapper
They are sold on ebay for very reasonable prices. -Alan On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.comwrote: Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so. I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of months at first and then less and less frequently. So please tell us more about zappers . . . thanks, Joyce On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for shingles. The more longstanding the shingles episode was before zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months long) within a few weeks. My son had an episode of infectious mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to him. He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping. For all practical purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or need any period of extended rest, or anything like that. So, it definitely works on some things. I would not hesitate to use it on someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well, such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed with some DMSO. Dan On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but neglected to use it. I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually beleive that it could work. Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it, so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes.. any testimonies...??? thanks again. -- From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has been in our researches), however, there are...at present..several other---more recent designs; more powerful in effect than is the original device developed by Robert. A brief survey of the Internet using zapper as the key word, will illicit a number of valid references. If you are unsuccessful email me personally and I will attempt to offer some useful guidance in your search. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Harborne Research Foundation. On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi group, Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share As I want to use one on my mate with the boils if it's potentially effective Thanks Sent from my iPhone -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Self care is never a selfish act – it is simply good stewardship of the only gift that I have.” Parker Palmer http://dearjubilee-joyce.blogspot.com www.dearjubilee.com -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
RE: CSBeck zapper
Hi Asif,
I'd love to have those designs please.
Lisa
-Original Message-
From: asif nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 6:00 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper
I have designs for both zappers should anyone require them.
Sent from my iPhone
On 6 Feb 2012, at 04:28, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:
I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator
operating at about 30KHz. This is the same as her old schematic for a
zapper. I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each
electrode.
I guess that is as clear as mud...
Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't
know if it is any better or not. But much more expensive as it is a
really fancy electronic device.
Dan
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall
bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so.
I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so
since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I
did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of
months at first and then less and less frequently.
So please tell us more about zappers . . .
thanks,
Joyce
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:
I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for
shingles. The more longstanding the shingles episode was before
zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh
outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months
long) within a few weeks. My son had an episode of infectious
mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to
him. He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol
and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping. For all practical
purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or
need any period of extended rest, or anything like that. So, it
definitely works on some things. I would not hesitate to use it on
someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well,
such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed
with some DMSO.
Dan
On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com
wrote:
I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive
27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to
100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects
I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive
9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but
neglected to use it.
I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper
could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually
beleive that it could work.
Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it,
so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel
electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes..
any testimonies...???
thanks again.
--
From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper
The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has
been in our researches), however,
there are...at present..several other---more recent designs; more
powerful in effect than is the original
device developed by Robert. A brief survey of the Internet using
zapper as the key word, will illicit
a number of valid references. If you are unsuccessful email me
personally and I will attempt to offer
some useful guidance in your search.
Sincerely,
Brooks Bradley. Harborne Research Foundation.
On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com
wrote:
Hi group,
Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share
As I want to use one on my mate with the boils if it's potentially
effective
Thanks
Sent from my iPhone
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RE: CSBeck zapper
Another website, www.frex.com has a set of the zapper frequencies in the free software you can download. Just hook up an amp and some wires and electrodes (sponges, handhelds or otherwise) and you are good to go. PT -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator operating at about 30KHz. This is the same as her old schematic for a zapper. I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each electrode. I guess that is as clear as mud... Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't know if it is any better or not. But much more expensive as it is a really fancy electronic device. Dan On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote: Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so. I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of months at first and then less and less frequently. So please tell us more about zappers . . . thanks, Joyce On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for shingles. The more longstanding the shingles episode was before zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months long) within a few weeks. My son had an episode of infectious mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to him. He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping. For all practical purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or need any period of extended rest, or anything like that. So, it definitely works on some things. I would not hesitate to use it on someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well, such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed with some DMSO. Dan On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but neglected to use it. I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually beleive that it could work. Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it, so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes.. any testimonies...??? thanks again. -- From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has been in our researches), however, there are...at present..several other---more recent designs; more powerful in effect than is the original device developed by Robert. A brief survey of the Internet using zapper as the key word, will illicit a number of valid references. If you are unsuccessful email me personally and I will attempt to offer some useful guidance in your search. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Harborne Research Foundation. On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi group, Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share As I want to use one on my mate with the boils if it's potentially effective Thanks Sent from my iPhone -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Self care is never a selfish act – it is simply good stewardship of the only gift that I have.” Parker Palmer http://dearjubilee-joyce.blogspot.com www.dearjubilee.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4791 - Release Date: 02/05/12
Re: CSBeck zapper
I bought a 12 v car speaker amplifier to do this however I felt that the voltage amplitude wouldn't be high enough as it wouldn't go higher than its source power voltage. Also remember that the amplifier will not have a decent flat output curve and will be limited to 100 hz to around 20khz . I even got iPhone software to generate the frequencies for convenience . I recommend the iPhone 4 or similar generation iPod touch because the audio output is of a much better quality and better behaved at a wider range of frequencies than the others in the range. Now I just need some frequencies and a decent amp! On 6 Feb 2012, at 14:28, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: Another website, www.frex.com has a set of the zapper frequencies in the free software you can download. Just hook up an amp and some wires and electrodes (sponges, handhelds or otherwise) and you are good to go. PT -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator operating at about 30KHz. This is the same as her old schematic for a zapper. I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each electrode. I guess that is as clear as mud... Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't know if it is any better or not. But much more expensive as it is a really fancy electronic device. Dan On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote: Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so. I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of months at first and then less and less frequently. So please tell us more about zappers . . . thanks, Joyce On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for shingles. The more longstanding the shingles episode was before zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months long) within a few weeks. My son had an episode of infectious mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to him. He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping. For all practical purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or need any period of extended rest, or anything like that. So, it definitely works on some things. I would not hesitate to use it on someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well, such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed with some DMSO. Dan On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but neglected to use it. I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually beleive that it could work. Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it, so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes.. any testimonies...??? thanks again. -- From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has been in our researches), however, there are...at present..several other---more recent designs; more powerful in effect than is the original device developed by Robert. A brief survey of the Internet using zapper as the key word, will illicit a number of valid references. If you are unsuccessful email me personally and I will attempt to offer some useful guidance in your search. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Harborne Research Foundation. On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi group, Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share As I want to use one on my mate with the boils if it's potentially effective Thanks Sent from my iPhone -- The Silver List
RE: CSBeck zapper
As far as I understand it, a speaker amplifier is inappropriate for doing frequency work. Amplifiers for this purpose are available at www.frex.com.au and other places. The Frex website even has a do-it-yourself version for free. PT -Original Message- From: Asif Nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 12:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper I bought a 12 v car speaker amplifier to do this however I felt that the voltage amplitude wouldn't be high enough as it wouldn't go higher than its source power voltage. Also remember that the amplifier will not have a decent flat output curve and will be limited to 100 hz to around 20khz . I even got iPhone software to generate the frequencies for convenience . I recommend the iPhone 4 or similar generation iPod touch because the audio output is of a much better quality and better behaved at a wider range of frequencies than the others in the range. Now I just need some frequencies and a decent amp! On 6 Feb 2012, at 14:28, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: Another website, www.frex.com has a set of the zapper frequencies in the free software you can download. Just hook up an amp and some wires and electrodes (sponges, handhelds or otherwise) and you are good to go. PT -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator operating at about 30KHz. This is the same as her old schematic for a zapper. I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each electrode. I guess that is as clear as mud... Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't know if it is any better or not. But much more expensive as it is a really fancy electronic device. Dan On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote: Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so. I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of months at first and then less and less frequently. So please tell us more about zappers . . . thanks, Joyce On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for shingles. The more longstanding the shingles episode was before zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months long) within a few weeks. My son had an episode of infectious mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to him. He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping. For all practical purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or need any period of extended rest, or anything like that. So, it definitely works on some things. I would not hesitate to use it on someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well, such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed with some DMSO. Dan On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but neglected to use it. I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually beleive that it could work. Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it, so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes.. any testimonies...??? thanks again. -- From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has been in our researches), however, there are...at present..several other---more recent designs; more powerful in effect than is the original device developed by Robert. A brief survey of the Internet using zapper as the key word, will illicit a number of valid references. If you are unsuccessful email me personally and I will attempt to offer some useful
Re: CSBeck zapper
I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for shingles. The more longstanding the shingles episode was before zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months long) within a few weeks. My son had an episode of infectious mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to him. He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping. For all practical purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or need any period of extended rest, or anything like that. So, it definitely works on some things. I would not hesitate to use it on someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well, such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed with some DMSO. Dan On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but neglected to use it. I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually beleive that it could work. Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it, so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes.. any testimonies...??? thanks again. -- From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has been in our researches), however, there are...at present..several other---more recent designs; more powerful in effect than is the original device developed by Robert. A brief survey of the Internet using zapper as the key word, will illicit a number of valid references. If you are unsuccessful email me personally and I will attempt to offer some useful guidance in your search. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Harborne Research Foundation. On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi group, Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share As I want to use one on my mate with the boils if it's potentially effective Thanks Sent from my iPhone -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBeck zapper
Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so. I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of months at first and then less and less frequently. So please tell us more about zappers . . . thanks, Joyce On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for shingles. The more longstanding the shingles episode was before zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months long) within a few weeks. My son had an episode of infectious mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to him. He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping. For all practical purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or need any period of extended rest, or anything like that. So, it definitely works on some things. I would not hesitate to use it on someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well, such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed with some DMSO. Dan On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but neglected to use it. I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually beleive that it could work. Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it, so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes.. any testimonies...??? thanks again. -- From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has been in our researches), however, there are...at present..several other---more recent designs; more powerful in effect than is the original device developed by Robert. A brief survey of the Internet using zapper as the key word, will illicit a number of valid references. If you are unsuccessful email me personally and I will attempt to offer some useful guidance in your search. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Harborne Research Foundation. On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi group, Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share As I want to use one on my mate with the boils if it's potentially effective Thanks Sent from my iPhone -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Self care is never a selfish act – it is simply good stewardship of the only gift that I have.” Parker Palmer http://dearjubilee-joyce.blogspot.com www.dearjubilee.com
Re: CSBeck zapper
I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator operating at about 30KHz. This is the same as her old schematic for a zapper. I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each electrode. I guess that is as clear as mud... Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't know if it is any better or not. But much more expensive as it is a really fancy electronic device. Dan On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote: Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so. I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of months at first and then less and less frequently. So please tell us more about zappers . . . thanks, Joyce On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for shingles. The more longstanding the shingles episode was before zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months long) within a few weeks. My son had an episode of infectious mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to him. He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping. For all practical purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or need any period of extended rest, or anything like that. So, it definitely works on some things. I would not hesitate to use it on someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well, such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed with some DMSO. Dan On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but neglected to use it. I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually beleive that it could work. Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it, so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes.. any testimonies...??? thanks again. -- From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has been in our researches), however, there are...at present..several other---more recent designs; more powerful in effect than is the original device developed by Robert. A brief survey of the Internet using zapper as the key word, will illicit a number of valid references. If you are unsuccessful email me personally and I will attempt to offer some useful guidance in your search. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Harborne Research Foundation. On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi group, Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share As I want to use one on my mate with the boils if it's potentially effective Thanks Sent from my iPhone -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Self care is never a selfish act – it is simply good stewardship of the only gift that I have.” Parker Palmer http://dearjubilee-joyce.blogspot.com www.dearjubilee.com
Re: CSBeck zapper
The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has been in our researches), however, there are...at present..several other---more recent designs; more powerful in effect than is the original device developed by Robert. A brief survey of the Internet using zapper as the key word, will illicit a number of valid references. If you are unsuccessful email me personally and I will attempt to offer some useful guidance in your search. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Harborne Research Foundation. On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi group, Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share As I want to use one on my mate with the boils if it's potentially effective Thanks Sent from my iPhone -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBeck zapper
I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but neglected to use it. I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually beleive that it could work. Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it, so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes.. any testimonies...??? thanks again. -- From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has been in our researches), however, there are...at present..several other---more recent designs; more powerful in effect than is the original device developed by Robert. A brief survey of the Internet using zapper as the key word, will illicit a number of valid references. If you are unsuccessful email me personally and I will attempt to offer some useful guidance in your search. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Harborne Research Foundation. On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi group, Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share As I want to use one on my mate with the boils if it's potentially effective Thanks Sent from my iPhone -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBeck zapper/weight loss
Linda, I lost sugar cravings and have the lowest blood sugar I've had in years after using a zapper and taking herbs for parasites. Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
