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Yes. Since minerals are basic ground up rock. There may be lead and especially aluminum in most everything. There is aluminum and lead in common everyday foods. And if its not listed on the label those may be in trace amounts that are not required to be listed. According to most Coral Calcium (and Calcium) labels you'll see many metals listed. What the net effect of those are, are subject to speculation. Most (if not all) intervention at this time - the purpose for taking any supplements - must be weighted for the outcome potential. I strongly argue that all intervention should be of the shortest term possible and the focus is to restore the body's natural balance where intervention (supplements, herbs, CS, etc) is not needed. There are many avenues to adjust your body's pH. Calcium.being just one. Kombucha, lemon water, alkaline water, homeopathic remedies, to name a few. Diet and lifestyle is the single most contributing factor. Generally any long term intervention - cal/mag supplements - does not treat the root disorder. They may be recommended for the immediate short term, but focus should not be taken off searching for the root cause: why are supplements necessary. That does not negate that supplements may be necessary. The same should be said about CS. Most on this list seem to be of the opinion that in __acute crisis stage__ massive doses in as direct contact as possible for as long as possible would be the prescription. Once the distress has been eliminated very small and indeed they are very very small doses are administered as preventative. Where the affliction is seen as __chronic__ then slightly higher yet far lower doses are recommended. All the while when on a maintainace dose people are watching and looking for possible side affects or possible symptoms from long term use. Cases, of course, are judged independently, but generally that is the universal approach to health. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Sally Khanna [mailto:khann...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:25 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBody pH Ed, A Local homeopath here, syas that ALL calcium supplements contain some lead. Have you heard this? I'd sure like to know, as I take cal/mag supplements. Sally
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Thank you for answering my post. What are the mg.of the coral calcium tablets you are taking and how many do you take and when?? Thanks mary -- Original message from Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net: -- No, I was OK taking high doses of CORAL calcium and had no problems. I got gout when I switched to regular calcium (calcium from shell fish - not coral calcium) and got gout. It depends upon the type of calcium. -Original Message- From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 8:09 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBody pH On another post you mention that you took higher dosages of coral calicum for gout. My husband has gout please advise!! Mary
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I had used the TRC brand (which I sell SR $24.00 120 tablets for 30 day supply. I was taking 2-4 times the recommended allowance. Calcium: High Grade Marine Coral 2,000 mg, Magnesium 250 mg, Vitamin D 400 IU, Vitamin C 60 mg, MSM 250 mg, Plus 75 chelated minerals and 100% RDA of all vitamins A-Z . Thats why even at my wholesale price it still cost me a lot more than buying a bottle of 1,000 capsules of plain Calcium (at COSTCO) for $10. There is nothing wrong with either brand. Both are exactly as they state on the labels. But. Robert Barefoot (Calcium factor) states that one can take mega-doses of Coral Calcium without possibility of calcium poisoning. Which I still believe is true. But not calcium derived from shell fish or the more common calcium (carbonate - chalk) . That's when the gout struck. Stopped immediately and 3 weeks later my gout was gone. Tried (COSTCO CALCIUM) again a few months latter and bang right to the big toe. Stopped (COSTCO CALCIUM) and relief. Latter tried the TRC Coral calcium and no problems at higher doses. So that made a believer out of me. This was about 2-3 years back and Coral calcium was really popular and selling for a lot of money. About 10-$20 more than I was selling it at. Prices are very competitive now. I would suggest if you want to take calcium use a respected Coral Calcium brand. Most are reasonably priced now. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:22 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBody pH Thank you for answering my post. What are the mg.of the coral calcium tablets you are taking and how many do you take and when?? Thanks mary -- Original message from Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net: -- No, I was OK taking high doses of CORAL calcium and had no problems. I got gout when I switched to regular calcium (calcium from shell fish - not coral calcium) and got gout. It depends upon the type of calcium. -Original Message- From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 8:09 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBody pH On another post you mention that you took higher dosages of coral calicum for gout. My husband has gout please advise!! Mary
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Ed, A Local homeopath here, syas that ALL calcium supplements contain some lead. Have you heard this? I'd sure like to know, as I take cal/mag supplements. Sally Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net wrote: I had used the TRC brand (which I sell SR $24.00 120 tablets for 30 day supply. I was taking 2-4 times the recommended allowance. Calcium: High Grade Marine Coral 2,000 mg, Magnesium 250 mg, Vitamin D 400 IU, Vitamin C 60 mg, MSM 250 mg, Plus 75 chelated minerals and 100% RDA of all vitamins A-Z . Thats why even at my wholesale price it still cost me a lot more than buying a bottle of 1,000 capsules of plain Calcium (at COSTCO) for $10. There is nothing wrong with either brand. Both are exactly as they state on the labels. But. Robert Barefoot (Calcium factor) states that one can take mega-doses of Coral Calcium without possibility of calcium poisoning. Which I still believe is true. But not calcium derived from shell fish or the more common calcium (carbonate - chalk) . That's when the gout struck. Stopped immediately and 3 weeks later my gout was gone. Tried (COSTCO CALCIUM) again a few months latter and bang right to the big toe. Stopped (COSTCO CALCIUM) and relief. Latter tried the TRC Coral calcium and no problems at higher doses. So that made a believer out of me. This was about 2-3 years back and Coral calcium was really popular and selling for a lot of money. About 10-$20 more than I was selling it at. Prices are very competitive now. I would suggest if you want to take calcium use a respected Coral Calcium brand. Most are reasonably priced now. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:22 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBody pH Thank you for answering my post. What are the mg.of the coral calcium tablets you are taking and how many do you take and when?? Thanks mary -- Original message from Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net: -- No, I was OK taking high doses of CORAL calcium and had no problems. I got gout when I switched to regular calcium (calcium from shell fish - not coral calcium) and got gout. It depends upon the type of calcium. -Original Message- From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 8:09 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBody pH On another post you mention that you took higher dosages of coral calicum for gout. My husband has gout please advise!! Mary - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!
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Question, my husband has gout do you think drinking this tea would help he does drink lemon water to balance the ph but we have not checked his ph levels simply because I have not gotten the ph test strips? -- Original message from Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net: -- According to The Calcium Factor by Robert Barefoot Coral Calcium plus Kombucha Tea balances the body's pH. I sell a lot of kombucha which is a very simply and cheap tea (pro-biotic) to make and enjoy at home. If you ask around you may find one at your neighbors and may get started for free. Just adding sugar and tea is all that's really needed. I put pictures up on my web site. http://www.happyherbalist.com/pictures.htm Kombucha is acidic, usually around 3.0. Like lemons. It is an alkaline forming food once it becomes part of the body's synergy. Some people make kombucha extract using alcohol - which kills the probiotics kombucha but leaves the acids (acetic and gluconic mostly) which they theorize is the catalyst for health. Now IMO, one could substitute CS for the alcohol. As both will kill the flora friendly kombucha, but not the acids and have a wonderful combination. Some people do this and monitor their pH via urine strips. Kombucha tea (alone without the CS) does begin to noticeable balance the pH within 30-60 days. many folks do both but at different times. live free and healthy, Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist member of the CS list since ... maybe 1999. seems I remember stuff about Y2K bug here. Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: SJY [mailto:youngst...@konnections.net] Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 8:49 PM To: Silver List Subject: CSBody pH I have been reading some things that suggest as we age, our systems tend to become more acidic, and this in turn makes our systems more vulnerable to disease (e.g. cancer) and eventually death. Some advocate ingesting foods or other organic or inorganic compounds to shift one's pH to be slightly alkaline. Has anyone had any experience alkalizing their bodies? For example, is anyone having good results with a product called Alkaline Body Balance, or others like it, to mitigate cancer or other medical problems? To keep it CS oriented, I would assume there would be no harm in taking products to increase body alkalinity (e.g. potassium or cesium salts) along with doses of Colloidal and Ionic Silver. Comments? --Steve Y. (circa 2000 on the list) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Personally when I used a Coral calcium in high doses I did not get gout. Then I switched to the huge bottle of Calcium (about 1/4 the price) which was from shellfish and I got severe gout. So I believe Coral Calcium which I can take does not flare up. I repeated this experiment (like a sadist) and regular calcium will cause a flare up for me. I don't feel the need to take any supplements at this time. I offer free ph test strips so people can test themselves. I'll out today but should have some in within the week. You and others are welcome to email me for the free samples email e...@happyherbalist.com with free samples pH strips in the subject line. No cost or obligation but we do send out product literature as well as tell you how to do the test (simple) . lemon water, apple cider vinegar (Bragg's organic) and Kombucha all work along the same lines. KT has more live stuff in it and IMO does much more. KT is a lot more work, although quite enjoyable. Really depends upon where you are in the big picture. I do not recommend taking any of the above at the same time as CS. I'd suggest they be taken hours apart. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 7:54 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBody pH Question, my husband has gout do you think drinking this tea would help he does drink lemon water to balance the ph but we have not checked his ph levels simply because I have not gotten the ph test strips?
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Check out some information that would allow your husband to find his metabolic type, because deposits of crystals in the joints can be due to alkalosis. If he is too alkaline further alkalinizing would not be advisable. From Prescription for Nutritional Healing Alkalosis os often the result of excessive intake of alkaline drugs such as sodium bicarbonate.it can also result from excessive vomiting, high cholesterol, endocrine imbalance, poor diet, diarrhea, and osteoarthritis. The symptoms may be manifested as a highly nervous condition...Other symptoms can include sore muscles, creaking joints, bursitis, drowsiness, protruding eyes, hypertension, hypothermia, seizures, edema, allergies, night cramps, asthma, chronic indigestion, night coughs, vomiting...prostatitis... Alkalosis may be less common than acidosis (according to another health book of mine) but it is no less serious. It can for instance, be the result of aldosteronism, an excess of aldosterone, one of the adrenal cortex hormones. My book says the signs are ...persistently low serum potassium, high normal to elevated serum sodium, neutral or alkaline urine, and blood alkalosis in the presence of unexplained hypertension I find it puzzling that I hardly ever see any mention of alkalosis, only of acidosis. It seems to me unwise, no matter that acidosis is more common, to not look at the possibility at all. sol mborg...@att.net wrote: Question, my husband has gout do you think drinking this tea would help he does drink lemon water to balance the ph but we have not checked his ph levels simply because I have not gotten the ph test strips? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.4 - Release Date: 3/27/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I would like some ph strips but I would like to pay for them also information on how to use them. Thanks Mary -- Original message from Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net: -- Personally when I used a Coral calcium in high doses I did not get gout. Then I switched to the huge bottle of Calcium (about 1/4 the price) which was from shellfish and I got severe gout. So I believe Coral Calcium which I can take does not flare up. I repeated this experiment (like a sadist) and regular calcium will cause a flare up for me. I don't feel the need to take any supplements at this time. I offer free ph test strips so people can test themselves. I'll out today but should have some in within the week. You and others are welcome to email me for the free samples email e...@happyherbalist.com with free samples pH strips in the subject line. No cost or obligation but we do send out product literature as well as tell you how to do the test (simple) . lemon water, apple cider vinegar (Bragg's organic) and Kombucha all work along the same lines. KT has more live stuff in it and IMO does much more. KT is a lot more work, although quite enjoyable. Really depends upon where you are in the big picture. I do not recommend taking any of the above at the same time as CS. I'd suggest they be taken hours apart. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 7:54 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBody pH Question, my husband has gout do you think drinking this tea would help he does drink lemon water to balance the ph but we have not checked his ph levels simply because I have not gotten the ph test strips?
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On another post you mention that you took higher dosages of coral calicum for gout. My husband has gout please advise!! Mary -- Original message from mborg...@att.net: -- Question, my husband has gout do you think drinking this tea would help he does drink lemon water to balance the ph but we have not checked his ph levels simply because I have not gotten the ph test strips? -- Original message from Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net: -- According to The Calcium Factor by Robert Barefoot Coral Calcium plus Kombucha Tea balances the body's pH. I sell a lot of kombucha which is a very simply and cheap tea (pro-biotic) to make and enjoy at home. If you ask around you may find one at your neighbors and may get started for free. Just adding sugar and tea is all that's really needed. I put pictures up on my web site. http://www.happyherbalist.com/pictures.htm Kombucha is acidic, usually around 3.0. Like lemons. It is an alkaline forming food once it becomes part of the body's synergy. Some people make kombucha extract using alcohol - which kills the probiotics kombucha but leaves the acids (acetic g! t; and gluconic mostly) which they theorize is the catalyst for health. Now IMO, one could substitute CS for the alcohol. As both will kill the flora friendly kombucha, but not the acids and have a wonderful combination. Some people do this and monitor their pH via urine strips. Kombucha tea (alone without the CS) does begin to noticeable balance the pH within 30-60 days. many folks do both but at different times. live free and healthy, Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist member of the CS list since ... maybe 1999. seems I remember stuff about Y2K bug here. Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: SJY [mailto:youngst...@konnections.net] Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 8:49 PM To: Silver List Subject: CSBody pH ! ; I have been reading some things that suggest as we age, our systems tend to become more acidic, and this in turn makes our systems more vulnerable to disease (e.g. cancer) and eventually death. Some advocate ingesting foods or other organic or inorganic compounds to shift one's pH to be slightly alkaline. Has anyone had any experience alkalizing their bodies? For example, is anyone having good results with a product called Alkaline Body Balance, or others like it, to mitigate cancer or other medical problems? To keep it CS oriented, I would assume there would be no harm in taking products to increase body alkalinity (e.g. potassium or cesium salts) along with doses of Colloidal and Ionic Silver. Comments? --Steve Y. (circa 2000 on the list) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
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The ph strips are on backorder and should be here within a week. You get complete information with the free samples. really easy. Please contact me off list if you have questions. as this is off topic. The test strips are a promotion from a company I am associated with. No Charge. e...@happyherbalist.com with pH test strips in the subject line for free sample Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 8:00 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBody pH I would like some ph strips but I would like to pay for them also information on how to use them. Thanks Mary -- Original message from Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net: -- Personally when I used a Coral calcium in high doses I did not get gout. Then I switched to the huge bottle of Calcium (about 1/4 the price) which was from shellfish and I got severe gout. So I believe Coral Calcium which I can take does not flare up. I repeated this experiment (like a sadist) and regular calcium will cause a flare up for me. I don't feel the need to take any supplements at this time. I offer free ph test strips so people can test themselves. I'll out today but should have some in within the week. You and others are welcome to email me for the free samples email e...@happyherbalist.com with free samples pH strips in the subject line. No cost or obligation but we do send out product literature as well as tell you how to do the test (simple) . lemon water, apple cider vinegar (Bragg's organic) and Kombucha all work along the same lines. KT has more live stuff in it and IMO does much more. KT is a lot more work, although quite enjoyable. Really depends upon where you are in the big picture. I do not recommend taking any of the above at the same time as CS. I'd suggest they be taken hours apart. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 7:54 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBody pH Question, my husband has gout do you think drinking this tea would help he does drink lemon water to balance the ph but we have not checked his ph levels simply because I have not gotten the ph test strips?
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No, I was OK taking high doses of CORAL calcium and had no problems. I got gout when I switched to regular calcium (calcium from shell fish - not coral calcium) and got gout. It depends upon the type of calcium. -Original Message- From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 8:09 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBody pH On another post you mention that you took higher dosages of coral calicum for gout. My husband has gout please advise!! Mary
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I would say you have it backwards...your serum, saliva, and urine pH should be alkaline...NOT acid. Most of the research I've read indicates that all sick and all cancer people slip to the acid sideand that cancer cannot grow in the alkaline environment. Please recheck your data before you continue the path you are on. If you find something different...please advise with references. Thank you. Hi SJY, When you hear about body ph. you must ask, what part of the body. is it the blood, the urine, the saliva or the water inside the cells or the cell walls or the stomach acid. they are all differnt some are acid and some are alkaline. There is a lot of information on the PH and how it relates to heath and disease on the Internet. I have however read a few things that would say the opposite and the more I read it the more I think its true. So I have been working towards the acid side . Acid is a proton donor and protons are what is life. So I am consuming acids regularly. I do lemon juice and Betaine HCL and also carbonic acid in order to gain more protons in the body which makes it more acid. they have the water ionizers all over the market and they tell you to drink the alkaline water and toss the acid water. so since most of the things that I have seen that are taken as common knowledge always turn out to be the opposite . I drink the acid water also in small doses. http://www.h-longevity.net/eng/1.shtml Take care, V I have been reading some things that suggest as we age, our systems tend to become more acidic, and this in turn makes our systems more vulnerable to disease (e.g. cancer) and eventually death. Some advocate ingesting foods or other organic or inorganic compounds to shift one's pH to be slightly alkaline. Has anyone had any experience alkalizing their bodies? For example, is anyone having good results with a product called Alkaline Body Balance, or others like it, to mitigate cancer or other medical problems? To keep it CS oriented, I would assume there would be no harm in taking products to increase body alkalinity (e.g. potassium or cesium salts) along with doses of Colloidal and Ionic Silver. Comments? --Steve Y. (circa 2000 on the list) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --
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http://www.greatestherbsonearth.com/articles/ph_10reasons.htm .pH Balancing: 10 Reasons to Avoid Acidosis Corrodes Arteries, Veins and Heart Tissues Like acid eating into marble, acidosis erodes and eats into cell wall membranes of the heart, arteries and veins, weakening cardiovascular structures and inter connective tissues. All living tissue is sensitive to its chemical environment, and most particularly whether its pH is too acid or alkaline, the muscle cells of the cardiovascular system are no different. The cardiovascular system may be thought of as one large working system of tubular muscles designed to carry blood and nutrients to every living tissue in the body and is directly affected by blood plasma pH. The heart, of course, is the muscular pump at the center of everything, which drives blood through the arteries, veins and capillary beds (a series of complex interconnected tubular tunnels of flexible smooth muscle) and is designed to help regulate the pressure and flow of circulation. Everything in the cardiovascular system works normally when the pH of blood plasma is slightly alkaline, having a pH of 7.35 to 7.41. But when the heart plasma habitually becomes a relatively more acid pH7.35, it acts as a chemical irritant which slowly begins to attach and eat away at the smooth muscle tissues of the inner walls of arteries and veins, as well as the heart itself. Again, like acid slowly eating its way into marble, this erosion process begins to weaken the structural composition of the heart, arterial and venous walls, causing lesions and microscopic tearing throughout its framework. Simultaneously, an acid pH also destabilizes free ionic balances within circulation, increasing the populations of positively charges particles (cations, an ion with a positive charge of electricity: H , Ca ) which directly interferes with the muscle contractility (contraction and relaxation) of the heart and arteries. Acid pH changes of the circulation which become habitual and the chaotic ionic confusion they cause, are now thought to be those factors which critically precipitate the development of arteriosclerosis (hardening of the arteries), an aneurysm (widening and ballooning of artery walls), arrhythmias (abnormal rhythms of the heart including tachycardia), myocardial infarction (heart attacks) and strokes (a cardiovascular accident). Moreover, the structural weakening of the cardiocascularity creates irregularities of blood pressure, which further exacerbates those problems. 2. Accelerates Free-Radical Damage and Premature Aging Acidosis causes partial lipid breakdown and destructive oxidative cascades accelerating Free Radical Damage of cell walls and intracellular membrane structures, which then unravel, killing cells in the process. Acidosis is thus thought to be the first step toward premature aging, accelerating oxidative cascades of cell wall destruction, creating wrinkling, age spots, dysfunctioning hormonal systems, interfering with eyesight, memory, and a host of other age-related phenomena. Wastes which are not properly eliminated from the body actually poison the cells they are inappropriately stored in... 3. Causes Weight Gain, Diabetes and Obesity An acid pH has considerable influence over the majority of weight problems, including Diabetes and Obesity. It seems that a habitually acid pH can directly cause immediate weight gain. Here's what happens when a system is too acid, a condition known as Insulin Sensitivity is produced which forces too much insulin to be produced, and the body is flooded with insulin so that it won't waste any calories, it diligently converts every calorie it can into fat. Could it be that an acid pH, from an imbalanced diet, produces a condition which stimulates the predetermined genetic response to starvation and famine as well, and thereafter requires that the body increasingly hoard every calorie consumed and store it as fat? Yes, indeed, it seems that it does! It is thought that an acid pH immediately signals the powerful genetic response to an impending famine, directly interpreting with the all important and very sensitive, Insulin-Glucagon Axis. This makes the body produce more insulin than usual, and in turn, produce more fat and store it. In general, the more insulin is available to the body, the higher the probability that fat will be produced and stored, rather than used and burned as energy. Thus, an acid pH will likely alert the genetic response to famine, directing more insulin to be produced and store more fat than usual. Conversely, a healthy, slightly alkaline pH, will more likely yield normal fat burning metabolic activity, making no demands on the body to overly produce insulin and make fat, allowing fat-weight to be burned and naturally lost. And too, with a healthy pH, there's less likely to be any yo-yo effect, or rebounding from a diet with additional weight gain. As long as nutritional stores are maintained, a healthy, slightly
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So have I. Alarmingly so...and across many disciplines of science (so-called). Relying more on intuition. stuff At 10:26 PM 3/26/2005 -0800, V wrote: so since most of the things that I have seen that are taken as common knowledge always turn out to be the opposite . Take care, V -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.3 - Release Date: 3/25/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSBody pH - 10 Reasons to Avoid Acidosis
Like acid eating into marble, acidosis erodes and eats into cell wall membranes of the heart, arteries and veins, weakening cardiovascular structures and inter connective tissues. That's a common mistake often found in opinion articles and it's not how it happens at all. The blood does not have acidosis; it is alkaline. Toxin load causes acidosis of the extracellular matrix and lymph. This doesn't directly eat cell walls but impedes normal cell function and compromizes the body's antioxidant system's ability to neutralize the toxins. Oxidative stress (free radicals) naturally created by the mitochondria does the rest in absnce of a way to purge/neutralize the load. Everything in the cardiovascular system works normally when the pH of blood plasma is slightly alkaline, having a pH of 7.35 to 7.41. But when the heart plasma habitually becomes a relatively more acid pH7.35, it acts as a chemical irritant which slowly begins to attach and eat away at the smooth muscle tissues of the inner walls of arteries and veins, as well as the heart itself. No. For a full explanation and then some, see Dr. Steven Haltiwanger's brilliant monograph at http://royalrife.com/haltiwanger.html which contains references. Again, like acid slowly eating its way into marble, this erosion process begins to weaken the structural composition of the heart, arterial and venous walls, causing lesions and microscopic tearing throughout its framework. No. this weakening of arterial walls is due to free radical load, not acid blood. There is no erosion. 2. Accelerates Free-Radical Damage and Premature Aging Acidosis causes partial lipid breakdown and destructive oxidative cascades accelerating Free Radical Damage of cell walls and intracellular membrane structures, which then unravel, killing cells in the process. Acidosis is thus thought to be the first step toward premature aging, accelerating oxidative cascades of cell wall destruction, creating wrinkling, age spots, dysfunctioning hormonal systems, interfering with eyesight, memory, and a host of other age-related phenomena. At last a few facts, except for the 'intracellular mebrane structures unravelling. Howver, the process above, acidosis, is not causative, a first step, but an effect of toxin load. Toxin load allows for cell function impairment, which allows pH to drop. Remove toxin load and pH rises back to normal. Wastes which are not properly eliminated from the body actually poison the cells they are inappropriately stored in... Partly like that. The accumulated wastes are mainly stored in the extracellular matrix, outside the cells. This is because the ECM is supposed to either neutralize wastes or transport them but when the ionic load is wrong the functions are impaired. flooded with insulin so that it won't waste any calories, it diligently converts every calorie it can into fat. Could it be that an acid pH, from an imbalanced diet, produces a condition which stimulates the predetermined genetic response to starvation and famine as well, and thereafter requires that the body increasingly hoard every calorie consumed and store it as fat? Yes, indeed, it seems that it does! Speculation is but a first step towards understanding. This is not useful as a teaching tool, and in this case the speculation above is not supportd by actual knowledge about the process. It is thought that an acid pH immediately signals the powerful genetic response to an impending famine No, the genetic response is nothing more than turning gene expression on and off cell-by-cell; something that can be done with many substances. This is discussed in the Haltiwanger monograph, with referenced examples. LDL-Cholesterol is laid down at an accelerated rate within an acid chemical environment of the cardiovascular system, inappropriately lining the vascular network, and clogging up the works! Specifically, an acid pH initiates electrostatic potential, damaging arterial walls, No, arterial walls actually never see an acid pH, but they do see a lot of free radical damage due to the fact that we don't get enough antioxidants. Chronic free radical damage is known as oxidative stress because the involvement is with Reactive Oxygen Species (ROS), which contradicts the statement above that hydrogen (acidity) is involved. In other words the problem is that ROS grabs electrons. which in turn initiates a PDGF-dependent immune response, causing cholesterol oxidation and the formation of plaque with heavy metals. And the statement above indicates the writer is aware of at least some of the work. 5. Disrupts Blood Pressure Also, positive Ca and positive H regulate the activity of intracellular proteins and are driven out of cells, because of the Sodium-Potassium pump (Na-K pump), which provides a strong incentive for sodium to be driven into cells. There are some 10 times the amount of positive Na in extra cellular fluids than
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According to The Calcium Factor by Robert Barefoot Coral Calcium plus Kombucha Tea balances the body's pH. I sell a lot of kombucha which is a very simply and cheap tea (pro-biotic) to make and enjoy at home. If you ask around you may find one at your neighbors and may get started for free. Just adding sugar and tea is all that's really needed. I put pictures up on my web site. http://www.happyherbalist.com/pictures.htm Kombucha is acidic, usually around 3.0. Like lemons. It is an alkaline forming food once it becomes part of the body's synergy. Some people make kombucha extract using alcohol - which kills the probiotics kombucha but leaves the acids (acetic and gluconic mostly) which they theorize is the catalyst for health. Now IMO, one could substitute CS for the alcohol. As both will kill the flora friendly kombucha, but not the acids and have a wonderful combination. Some people do this and monitor their pH via urine strips. Kombucha tea (alone without the CS) does begin to noticeable balance the pH within 30-60 days. many folks do both but at different times. live free and healthy, Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist member of the CS list since ... maybe 1999. seems I remember stuff about Y2K bug here. Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: SJY [mailto:youngst...@konnections.net] Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 8:49 PM To: Silver List Subject: CSBody pH I have been reading some things that suggest as we age, our systems tend to become more acidic, and this in turn makes our systems more vulnerable to disease (e.g. cancer) and eventually death. Some advocate ingesting foods or other organic or inorganic compounds to shift one's pH to be slightly alkaline. Has anyone had any experience alkalizing their bodies? For example, is anyone having good results with a product called Alkaline Body Balance, or others like it, to mitigate cancer or other medical problems? To keep it CS oriented, I would assume there would be no harm in taking products to increase body alkalinity (e.g. potassium or cesium salts) along with doses of Colloidal and Ionic Silver. Comments? --Steve Y. (circa 2000 on the list) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBody pH SOME LINKS on pH links
Hi Louise! Wow, nicely written, I couldn't agree more, and thanks for the posting all of the info! I had a tough time restoring my body's ph balance ( the second time in life I've had to do so ) this time around. Trauma to the body and perpetual inflammation of tissues creates an acidic environment, which slows or can even prevent healing. Of interest? Quality hot springs can often, combined with good drinking water, correct mild acidosis within two days to a week. My personal research into baleneotherapy indicates that remineralization of tissues, coupled with PH level correction, is likely the reason that arthritis sufferers who achieve permanent relief from hot springs use do so. Like pelotherapy ( healing with earths/clays ), hydrotherapy with natural geothermal waters assists the body's lymphatic system with cleansing without placing a burden on the body's elimination organs. You can tell, in fact, a good healing mud ( as apposed to a healing clay which is different ) by taking someone who has mild to severe acidosis, taking any sterling silver item, such as a ring, having them place the item on/around the hand/fingers, and placing their hand in the mud for about a minute. If the the soft tissues of the body are too acidic, the silver will tarnish to black as the mud literally pulls the acids out of the body. As one begins to correct a problem of acidosis, it is very interesting to watch the first morning's PH reading, before eating/drinking. Even when one reaches the stage of a good saliva PH reading throughout the day and evening, my observation is that the morning reading is key in determining how much acidic waste the body has been STORING, and thus is now starting to ELIMINATE at night. In other words, one's saliva PH may read 6.6-7.0 through most of the day, but still read under 6.0 when waking. For those trying to heal severe conditions, one needs to continue to push the envelope until the morning reading is high... My research indicates that 1 out of the 4 primary body/metabolism types does nearly ALL of its primary tissue healing during sleep. Thus, the body really needs to be able to handle those acidic wastes during that sleep cycle. Once acidosis has been completely corrected, the body is quite good at maintaining it's own balance, with a sensible diet. After Alpha Omega Labs went out of business, I could no longer recommend their excellent potassium hyroxide solution to assist the body is correcting acidosis. I switched to plant food for some time ( KOH ), but was never comfortable with the quality. Fresh lemon water is the next best choice, in my opinion, because one can help regulate the PH all throughout the day. Kind Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Louise lou...@raw-connections.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 5:15 AM Subject: RE: CSBody pH SOME LINKS on pH links Well if you are drinking fresh lemon juice this helps the make the body more ALKALINE. http://home.bluegrass.net/~jclark/alkaline_foods.htm http://www.thewolfeclinic.com/acidalkfoods.html http://www.naturalhealthschool.com/acid-alkaline.html Lessons on pH that you might find interesting. A discussion about pH levels can be found at: http://www.cwe.com/wellness/ph.htm Acid Ash and alkaline ash food table: http://www.cwe.com/wellness/foods.htm ALKALINE-ASH FOODS http://www.risingstarlc.com/acidalk.htm http://www.healthfree.com/health/newsletter/news4_2b.htm mini pH guide http://www.healthfree.com/health/newsletter/index.html Now if you have the time there is a LOT of interesting reading on this site They even have a little on Colloidal Silver. It is a interesting collections of newsletters. Well it is more complicated than knowing which foods are acidic or alkaline as some have the opposite effect in the body. Take for instance vit C that is acidic but makes the body more alkaline. Now for some meat makes their body more acidic but for some less so. So the food interacts with the body to change it but not always what we think. Also another example is Apple Cider vinegar, quite acidic but helps to make the body more alkaline. ACV contains MALIC ACID, a constructive acid which combines with alkaline elements and minerals in the body to produce energy or to be stored in the system as glycogen for future use. It has proved to be of immeasurable value when used judiciously by humans and for animals. If you take Betaine HCL and eating a grain starchy meal then it will not digest properly. IF you are taking it because you are low in Hydrochloric acid to digest meat you can increase it by drinking 2 glasses of water before eating, the mucus in the stomach lining will form as well. Many people are dehydrated and why they have problems digesting (this treats heartburn as well) Even when having heart burn if you drink 2 glasses of water the pain will go away, no need IMO for drugs to control the acid
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Hi SJY, When you hear about body ph. you must ask, what part of the body. is it the blood, the urine, the saliva or the water inside the cells or the cell walls or the stomach acid. they are all differnt some are acid and some are alkaline. There is a lot of information on the PH and how it relates to heath and disease on the Internet. I have however read a few things that would say the opposite and the more I read it the more I think its true. So I have been working towards the acid side . Acid is a proton donor and protons are what is life. So I am consuming acids regularly. I do lemon juice and Betaine HCL and also carbonic acid in order to gain more protons in the body which makes it more acid. they have the water ionizers all over the market and they tell you to drink the alkaline water and toss the acid water. so since most of the things that I have seen that are taken as common knowledge always turn out to be the opposite . I drink the acid water also in small doses. http://www.h-longevity.net/eng/1.shtml Take care, V I have been reading some things that suggest as we age, our systems tend to become more acidic, and this in turn makes our systems more vulnerable to disease (e.g. cancer) and eventually death. Some advocate ingesting foods or other organic or inorganic compounds to shift one's pH to be slightly alkaline. Has anyone had any experience alkalizing their bodies? For example, is anyone having good results with a product called Alkaline Body Balance, or others like it, to mitigate cancer or other medical problems? To keep it CS oriented, I would assume there would be no harm in taking products to increase body alkalinity (e.g. potassium or cesium salts) along with doses of Colloidal and Ionic Silver. Comments? --Steve Y. (circa 2000 on the list) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --
RE: CSBody PH..
Grant, The kidneys are part of the pH regulation system and will extract hydrogen ions from the blood plasma in order to lower the plasma pH, thus raising the pH of the urine accordingly. The saliva mirrors blood pH, and while affected by food and may give false readings, it is pretty accurate if one tests the saliva 3 hrs after putting anything in the mouth, and draws two or three fresh lots into the mouth and swallows it before testing. 11AM is a good time for doing this according to Robert Barefoot, who also suggests repeating the measurement on successive days and averaging the result. Regards Ivan. -Original Message- From: Grant [mailto:g...@island.net] Sent: Sunday, 7 April 2002 10:02 a.m. To: Silver - List Subject: CSBody PH.. Hi there: I was wondering why there is such adifference between ones Urine PH, and Ones Saliva PH.. also which one would give a correct indication of the bodys Alkaline/Acid content.. Thanks Grant.. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Grant: Initially, the saliva will have a higher ph level than Urine because urine is actually the body's waste, and many of the body's waste products are acidic. Nutritionists use a simple formula to estimate the overall PH level of the body as used to balance the body's fluid system. In the morning, measure the first urine and the saliva. Add these two numbers together and divide by two. The minimum healthy PH level should be 7.0... although it rarely is! Jason - Original Message - From: Grant g...@island.net To: Silver - List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 2:02 PM Subject: CSBody PH.. Hi there: I was wondering why there is such adifference between ones Urine PH, and Ones Saliva PH.. also which one would give a correct indication of the bodys Alkaline/Acid content.. Thanks Grant.. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSbody pH balance
Those interested in the pH balance of the body might like to read this short introduction, where they will learn that interpreting pH measurements is not as straight forward, as perhaps they would hope. Ivan -Original Message- From: Joanne [mailto:sam...@snowcrest.net] Sent: Sunday, 2 December 2001 1:14 p.m. To: silver-off-topic-l...@yahoogroups.com; silver list Subject: CSbody pH balance Hi Terry, I would be interested in learning more about this subject. I have some testing paper from TriMedica which test my salvia at 7.5...urine at 5.5 and the water from the tap at 6.5. I wanted to respond to your message back in July where you mentioned the pH balance...but then there was my daughters wedding I was involved with. By the time I got around to it, I could not find the message and did not remember who sent it. I am glad you brought the subject up again. I hope others will be interested in it also. Thank you Joanne...OT list owner (I decided to post this to both lists.) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSbody pH balance
Joanne, this is something that has fascinated me too. I have always heard that the correct body pH levels would create an environment where disease could not survive. My pH is off likely, and ways of natural restoration, are of great interest. suzy Hi Terry, I would be interested in learning more about this subject. I have some testing paper from TriMedica which test my salvia at 7.5...urine at 5.5 and the water from the tap at 6.5. I wanted to respond to your message back in July where you mentioned the pH balance...but then there was my daughters wedding I was involved with. By the time I got around to it, I could not find the message and did not remember who sent it. I am glad you brought the subject up again. I hope others will be interested in it also. Thank you Joanne...OT list owner (I decided to post this to both lists.)
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Me too. I am interested. TRacy
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It is really delicious with good tomato juice, preferably fresh squozen. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Scharbach [SMTP:myf...@mwt.net] Sent: Friday, October 08, 1999 3:09 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSBody pH File: ATT00011.html Kraut juice for probiotics? Interesting! And logical, but I've never heard of it before. Do you just buy the kraut and drink the juice from the can or the bag? Taste like pickle juice? Sparrrow Does sauerkraut juice fit in here anywhere? I have developed quite a liking for it, especially the fresh, uncooked juice. I have no way to determine the pH of it, and take it mostly for the probiotic benefits. If anyone on the list is taking sauerkraut juice, please post and let me know what your thoughts are on the substance. Liz -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
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Hi Liz, I think that the pH of sauerkraut is more or less neutral, but apart from tasting great sauerkraut is a good source of enzymes, as is kim chi (I love this stuff), soy sauce (aged), Worcestershire sauce, fresh pineapple, papaya, raw onion, garlic, fresh herbs, raw carrot, fennel, beets, leeks and celery etc. I think you should eat the cabbage to gain full benefit. Ivan. - Original Message - From: Liz Pavek liz...@frontiernet.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, 9 October 1999 03:47 Subject: CSBody pH Does sauerkraut juice fit in here anywhere? I have developed quite a liking for it, especially the fresh, uncooked juice. I have no way to determine the pH of it, and take it mostly for the probiotic benefits. If anyone on the list is taking sauerkraut juice, please post and let me know what your thoughts are on the substance. Liz -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
