Re: CS>FW: Smallpox

2002-09-30 Thread Russ Rosser
 Original Message -
> There are things that worry me much more than smallpox and that would be
> chemical weapons.

Don't be deceived.  Don't miss the point.  It's not about how sick you might
get from smallpox.  It's about the govt's using smallpox--which they
control--as a pretext for coercively curtailing your most fundamental right
of self-determination, by ordering armed forces to inject your entire family
with mercury, formaldehyde, aluminum coumpounds, ethylene glycol, etc. and a
*live virus* grown on lung tissue from aborted fetuses!  (See the links on
my website, www.survivalsystem.com, by clicking on the phrase "Model States
Emergency Health Powers Act, under the caption "THE URGENCY IS POLITICAL.")

AL Sen. Jeff Sessions just wrote me that he's aware of the cogent links
between common childhood vaccines and autism, ADD, and Sudden Infant
Death...yet smallpox vaccines have proven the most virulent of all.
Meanwhile, the Bush admin. is salivating over the prospect of coercively
universalizing this genocidal measure.  Whether you're aware of the
conspiracy or not--its ties with Hitler's poison suppliers, the multifarious
UN treaties calling for 50-90% US population reduction by 2003, etc.--YOU
SHOULD AT LEAST WANT A CHOICE regarding your family's welfare!

So what is a greater worry than smallpox?  How about armed troops at your
door, sent to confiscate your personal weapons (when the MSEHPA passed in
AK, the governor said that would be immediately enforced upon his declaring
a "health emergency") and herd you into mandatory innoculation centers?
This is fact--read the law!  And stop swallowing propaganda about Big
Brother's beneficent motives to in make us safe & secure from the evil
towel-heads.  I'll send a free CD, including 2.5 hours mainstream news on
MP3 video, to anyone who can stomach the truth about the takeover of our
erstwhile Republic by a filthy-rich cabal of Satanist that's currently
unfolding...unless we urgently resist!

--Russ



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Re: CS>FW: Smallpox

2002-09-27 Thread Ode Coyote

  That anthrax "strain" was traced to Fort Detrick..not necessarily the
quantity of anthrax itself.
 It only takes one organism to breed as much as you want.
 Now, is that a strain that's not found in nature?
 Anthrax is not uncommon.

 Granted that the quality of the anthrax indicates that some one who know
what they're doing made it, but that doesn't draw an entirely straight line
to a US gov't lab.

The Ruskies seem to lose nuclear material fairly well.  I recall a case
where a Columbian drug lord bought a Russian submarine at a
bargain..complete with crew. [not nuclear, but complete with torpedoes]
They almost got it out of the dock before being stopped.
 I was bought 'as stolen'..not from those who owned it.
 I once knew a guy in the US Army that said he gets paid by the month and
by the truckload.  He had all sort of toys in his trunk including sections
of garden hose full of pure sodium.
 Stolen from the cooling system of a nuclear reactor???

 Need a white phosphorous grenade?  Sure, no prob!

Ken



At 12:24 PM 9/26/02 -0400, you wrote:
>Initially I found it on the web in alternate news sources, but later it
was in
>the newspaper here, and it was reported on CNN and the Washinton Post.  It
was
>tracked down to the Fort Dedrick army lab by the FBI, then they dropped the
>investigation I believe one they realized it was a government operation.
>
>The following are just 3 of dozens of articles on it:
>
>http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/dec2001/anth-d28.shtml
>http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A49502-2001Dec15?language=printer
>http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/1212-01.htm
>
>I beleive that the Russian supply is secure because they would be risking
>killing billions of their own people if it is not, same as the US.  If
small pox
>is released it will be by either the US or Russian governement and part of a
>much bigger plan.
>
>Any country that is wanting to use small pox as a weapon will be wanting
to wipe
>out the major portion of the population worldwide including their own.  It
>cannot be used as a weapon without it coming back to them.  Most of the
>population is no longer vaccinated against it.  So basically if it were
used it
>would have to be in accordance with the global 2000 documents (NWO
directives)
>on biological population reduction.  With the miserable failure of AIDs to
>accomplish their aims, I doubt they will play the small pox card.  And as I
>said, if they do, that will be the least of our worries.  After all CS should
>protect those of us here fine.
>
>Marshall
>
>Nysee wrote:
>
>> How do you figure the anthrax mailings were from the Army?  Just Curious.
>> Also how do you know the smallpox is secure just b/c Russia says so?  I
>> would be more inclined to trust my own goverment over that of another
>> country if I trusted any of them at all.
>>
>> Nysee
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Marshall Dudley" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 10:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: CS>FW: Smallpox
>>
>> > I don't know what all the hype is about small pox.  First of all there
are
>> only
>> > two sources of small pox available anywhere in the world. One is at the
>> CDC in
>> >
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Re: CS>FW: Smallpox

2002-09-26 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
It is very good to hear a report of an apparent CS failure -- this is
important -- but we also need to know precisely how you used the CS, how
much, for how long, and so forth.   This is not a "blast" but merely a
request for more information to support the assertion that CS was not
useful in your case. 

 



Roxanne wrote:
> 
> I don't know, I used to get Smallpox vaccinations on a regular basis.  They
> were supposed to help my Herpes Simplex virus infections.  I used to have
> them all over my face at various times.  As I got older, they became Herpes
> Zoster.  I would have breakouts very bad.  I only had a reaction once, the
> first one, given to me at the times they vacinated kids with them. They
> would give you a little cage like thing that went over the "sore" where they
> scratched your skin with some sort of glass. The others didn't do anything,
> not even a sore, and didn't affect the Herpes Simplex virus at all.  I got
> my last one in the early 70's, I was in my early 20's.
> I know some people die from vacinations.  The doctor even stopped the
> "pertusus", mispelled I'm sure, portion, of the vacinations that were given
> to my own children.  She would be very very sick afer them, and the doctor
> quit them.
> 
> I don't know what the answer is . . . smallpox is not a pretty site, and
> large percentage of the people who got smallpox died from it.  The internet
> has some very vivid pictures of people with smallpox.  Just do an internet
> search and see them.
> I feel that those vacinations prevented more deaths of people than actually
> caused them.
> 
> I didn't know about CS then, and CS didn't cure my Herpes infections either.
> I very smart doctor did with a drug.  I'm glad they developed it, because it
> has reduced my sufferings.  He put me on the drug, Zovirex for six months, a
> very log dosage.  It gave my immune system a boost, and in the last 15
> years, I've only had small eruptions.  If I feel like it's going to be a big
> one, I do take the drug and the ointment, but really haven't done that in
> years either.
> 
> I know I will get blasted from this . . . but just my thoughts and
> experiences.
> 
> Roxanne
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Connie [mailto:wufn...@stargate.net]
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 11:03 AM
> To: silver- list
> Subject: CS>FW: Smallpox
> 
> I just posted the small pox info from this list to the CSCats-dogs list.
> I got this response back immediately.
> Connie
> 
> >>>I don't remember if we ever covered this but.(...)'s Dad died from a
> smallpox vaccination when he was in his forties.  He was first
> paralized and then died within three days of vacination.
> 
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Re: CS>FW: Smallpox

2002-09-26 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
I would say in reply to this that only two repositories of smallpox are
KNOWN to exist.  That is a crucial distinction.   

Moreover, there is expert disagreement about whether or not there may
be, somewhere in the natural world, hidden or latent sources of the
virus.  If so, these might be discovered and exploited.   Lastly, we do
not know whether or not genetic engineering will create artificial
smallpox.  If this is possible, God help us as we may face even nastier
designer bugs. 

The whole topic is terrifying, really, so I think the word "hyperbole"
here is not appropriate. 

JBB


Marshall Dudley wrote:
> 
> I don't know what all the hype is about small pox.  First of all there are 
> only
> two sources of small pox available anywhere in the world. One is at the CDC in
> Atlanta, and the other is in Russia at their equivalent facility.  Russia has
> stated that their's is secure and there is now way for it to get loose.  That
> only leaves the US government supply.  So if the government is threatening a
> smallpox attack, it would have to be from the government itself.  This is
> possible, just like it turned out the anthrax mailings were from the US army,
> but if they are spreading small pox on purpose, that will be the least of our
> worries.
> 
> Marshall
> 
> Roxanne wrote:
> 
> > I don't know, I used to get Smallpox vaccinations on a regular basis.  They
> > were supposed to help my Herpes Simplex virus infections.  I used to have
> > them all over my face at various times.  As I got older, they became Herpes
> > Zoster.  I would have breakouts very bad.  I only had a reaction once, the
> > first one, given to me at the times they vacinated kids with them. They
> > would give you a little cage like thing that went over the "sore" where they
> > scratched your skin with some sort of glass. The others didn't do anything,
> > not even a sore, and didn't affect the Herpes Simplex virus at all.  I got
> > my last one in the early 70's, I was in my early 20's.
> > I know some people die from vacinations.  The doctor even stopped the
> > "pertusus", mispelled I'm sure, portion, of the vacinations that were given
> > to my own children.  She would be very very sick afer them, and the doctor
> > quit them.
> >
> > I don't know what the answer is . . . smallpox is not a pretty site, and
> > large percentage of the people who got smallpox died from it.  The internet
> > has some very vivid pictures of people with smallpox.  Just do an internet
> > search and see them.
> > I feel that those vacinations prevented more deaths of people than actually
> > caused them.
> >
> > I didn't know about CS then, and CS didn't cure my Herpes infections either.
> > I very smart doctor did with a drug.  I'm glad they developed it, because it
> > has reduced my sufferings.  He put me on the drug, Zovirex for six months, a
> > very log dosage.  It gave my immune system a boost, and in the last 15
> > years, I've only had small eruptions.  If I feel like it's going to be a big
> > one, I do take the drug and the ointment, but really haven't done that in
> > years either.
> >
> > I know I will get blasted from this . . . but just my thoughts and
> > experiences.
> >
> > Roxanne
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Connie [mailto:wufn...@stargate.net]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 11:03 AM
> > To: silver- list
> > Subject: CS>FW: Smallpox
> >
> > I just posted the small pox info from this list to the CSCats-dogs list.
> > I got this response back immediately.
> > Connie
> >
> > >>>I don't remember if we ever covered this but.(...)'s Dad died from a
> > smallpox vaccination when he was in his forties.  He was first
> > paralized and then died within three days of vacination.
> >
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RE: CS>FW: Smallpox

2002-09-26 Thread Roxanne



Same here, went from once or twice a month to none after starting CS about 4
years ago.

Marshall

I just started taking CS about six months ago.  I just recently
discovered CS, and basicly the big herpes infections were history, except
for a few small outbreaks, usually when the weather changes from hot to
cold.  I've had a small outbreak when I first started it, and had not had
one since, but when winter comes, if you want to say, Southern Louisiana has
a winter, will be the real test.

Roxanne



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RE: CS>FW: Smallpox

2002-09-26 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
The Soviets also have the worlds most comprehensive plant seed library.

What will that be worth when the terminator genes cross to all food crops?

Colloidal Silver.

James-Osbourne: Holmes


-Original Message-
From: Roxanne [mailto:rtr...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 12:50 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>FW: Smallpox


I don't know either, except they are not really sure where in Russia the
smallpox is.  They don't know if they have sold it to others.  I'm not
worried about it though . . . Soviet Union was who held the smallpox, and
that country was divided up into smaller countries since the cold war ended.

So, yes we have it in one facility, and the Soviet Union had it somewhere.
Anthrax wasn't a big issue either until September 11, so things do change.

Roxanne

-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 10:33 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>FW: Smallpox


I don't know what all the hype is about small pox.  First of all there are
only
two sources of small pox available anywhere in the world. One is at the CDC
in
Atlanta, and the other is in Russia at their equivalent facility.  Russia
has
stated that their's is secure and there is now way for it to get loose.
That
only leaves the US government supply.  So if the government is threatening a
smallpox attack, it would have to be from the government itself.  This is
possible, just like it turned out the anthrax mailings were from the US
army,
but if they are spreading small pox on purpose, that will be the least of
our
worries.

Marshall



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RE: CS>FW: Smallpox

2002-09-26 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
The stocks they have include a genetically engineered version that is
alleged to be more virulent.

I was amazed to learn that the original "wild" smallpox was not very
contagious at all and killed only the weak.

James-Osbourne: Holmes


-Original Message-
From: Trem [mailto:t...@silvergen.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 12:43 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>FW: Smallpox


Hi Marshall,

Here's some interesting info on smallpox.  Apparently it isn't very virulent
and takes a fairly long time to contract and you aren't contagious until
you're so sick that being in bed is the only choice.  So, only people close
to an infected person such as family and caregivers are vulnerable.
http://silvergen.com/Smallpox.htm

More government control?

I for one will not allow them to vaccinate me.

Trem

- Original Message -
From: "Marshall Dudley" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: CS>FW: Smallpox


> Initially I found it on the web in alternate news sources, but later it
was in
> the newspaper here, and it was reported on CNN and the Washinton Post.  It
was
> tracked down to the Fort Dedrick army lab by the FBI, then they dropped
the
> investigation I believe one they realized it was a government operation.
>
> The following are just 3 of dozens of articles on it:
>
> http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/dec2001/anth-d28.shtml
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A49502-2001Dec15?language=printer
> http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/1212-01.htm
>
> I beleive that the Russian supply is secure because they would be risking
> killing billions of their own people if it is not, same as the US.  If
small pox
> is released it will be by either the US or Russian governement and part of
a
> much bigger plan.
>
> Any country that is wanting to use small pox as a weapon will be wanting
to wipe
> out the major portion of the population worldwide including their own.  It
> cannot be used as a weapon without it coming back to them.  Most of the
> population is no longer vaccinated against it.  So basically if it were
used it
> would have to be in accordance with the global 2000 documents (NWO
directives)
> on biological population reduction.  With the miserable failure of AIDs to
> accomplish their aims, I doubt they will play the small pox card.  And as
I
> said, if they do, that will be the least of our worries.  After all CS
should
> protect those of us here fine.
>
> Marshall
>
> Nysee wrote:
>
> > How do you figure the anthrax mailings were from the Army?  Just
Curious.
> > Also how do you know the smallpox is secure just b/c Russia says so?  I
> > would be more inclined to trust my own goverment over that of another
> > country if I trusted any of them at all.
> >
> > Nysee
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Marshall Dudley" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 10:32 AM
> > Subject: Re: CS>FW: Smallpox
> >
> > > I don't know what all the hype is about small pox.  First of all there
are
> > only
> > > two sources of small pox available anywhere in the world. One is at
the
> > CDC in
> > >
> >
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Re: CS>FW: Smallpox

2002-09-26 Thread Marshall Dudley
Anthrax sppores, at least until recently could be purchased by anyone.  And
anyone that really wants to get it, could obtain spores from the ground anywhere
there has been cattle, and cultivate their own.  Smallpox is different, you have
to keep it alive, either in a human or a laboratory.

Marshall

Roxanne wrote:

> I don't know either, except they are not really sure where in Russia the
> smallpox is.  They don't know if they have sold it to others.  I'm not
> worried about it though . . . Soviet Union was who held the smallpox, and
> that country was divided up into smaller countries since the cold war ended.
>
> So, yes we have it in one facility, and the Soviet Union had it somewhere.
> Anthrax wasn't a big issue either until September 11, so things do change.
>
> Roxanne
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 10:33 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>FW: Smallpox
>
> I don't know what all the hype is about small pox.  First of all there are
> only
> two sources of small pox available anywhere in the world. One is at the CDC
> in
> Atlanta, and the other is in Russia at their equivalent facility.  Russia
> has
> stated that their's is secure and there is now way for it to get loose.
> That
> only leaves the US government supply.  So if the government is threatening a
> smallpox attack, it would have to be from the government itself.  This is
> possible, just like it turned out the anthrax mailings were from the US
> army,
> but if they are spreading small pox on purpose, that will be the least of
> our
> worries.
>
> Marshall
>
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RE: CS>FW: Smallpox

2002-09-26 Thread Roxanne
I don't know either, except they are not really sure where in Russia the
smallpox is.  They don't know if they have sold it to others.  I'm not
worried about it though . . . Soviet Union was who held the smallpox, and
that country was divided up into smaller countries since the cold war ended.

So, yes we have it in one facility, and the Soviet Union had it somewhere.
Anthrax wasn't a big issue either until September 11, so things do change.

Roxanne

-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 10:33 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>FW: Smallpox


I don't know what all the hype is about small pox.  First of all there are
only
two sources of small pox available anywhere in the world. One is at the CDC
in
Atlanta, and the other is in Russia at their equivalent facility.  Russia
has
stated that their's is secure and there is now way for it to get loose.
That
only leaves the US government supply.  So if the government is threatening a
smallpox attack, it would have to be from the government itself.  This is
possible, just like it turned out the anthrax mailings were from the US
army,
but if they are spreading small pox on purpose, that will be the least of
our
worries.

Marshall



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Re: CS>FW: Smallpox

2002-09-26 Thread Trem
Hi Marshall,

Here's some interesting info on smallpox.  Apparently it isn't very virulent
and takes a fairly long time to contract and you aren't contagious until
you're so sick that being in bed is the only choice.  So, only people close
to an infected person such as family and caregivers are vulnerable.
http://silvergen.com/Smallpox.htm

More government control?

I for one will not allow them to vaccinate me.

Trem

- Original Message -
From: "Marshall Dudley" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: CS>FW: Smallpox


> Initially I found it on the web in alternate news sources, but later it
was in
> the newspaper here, and it was reported on CNN and the Washinton Post.  It
was
> tracked down to the Fort Dedrick army lab by the FBI, then they dropped
the
> investigation I believe one they realized it was a government operation.
>
> The following are just 3 of dozens of articles on it:
>
> http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/dec2001/anth-d28.shtml
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A49502-2001Dec15?language=printer
> http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/1212-01.htm
>
> I beleive that the Russian supply is secure because they would be risking
> killing billions of their own people if it is not, same as the US.  If
small pox
> is released it will be by either the US or Russian governement and part of
a
> much bigger plan.
>
> Any country that is wanting to use small pox as a weapon will be wanting
to wipe
> out the major portion of the population worldwide including their own.  It
> cannot be used as a weapon without it coming back to them.  Most of the
> population is no longer vaccinated against it.  So basically if it were
used it
> would have to be in accordance with the global 2000 documents (NWO
directives)
> on biological population reduction.  With the miserable failure of AIDs to
> accomplish their aims, I doubt they will play the small pox card.  And as
I
> said, if they do, that will be the least of our worries.  After all CS
should
> protect those of us here fine.
>
> Marshall
>
> Nysee wrote:
>
> > How do you figure the anthrax mailings were from the Army?  Just
Curious.
> > Also how do you know the smallpox is secure just b/c Russia says so?  I
> > would be more inclined to trust my own goverment over that of another
> > country if I trusted any of them at all.
> >
> > Nysee
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Marshall Dudley" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 10:32 AM
> > Subject: Re: CS>FW: Smallpox
> >
> > > I don't know what all the hype is about small pox.  First of all there
are
> > only
> > > two sources of small pox available anywhere in the world. One is at
the
> > CDC in
> > >
> >
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RE: CS>FW: Smallpox

2002-09-26 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
I agree with and endorse Marshall's assessment of the situation.

James-Osbourne: Holmes


-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 10:25 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>FW: Smallpox


Initially I found it on the web in alternate news sources, but later it was
in
the newspaper here, and it was reported on CNN and the Washinton Post.  It
was
tracked down to the Fort Dedrick army lab by the FBI, then they dropped the
investigation I believe one they realized it was a government operation.

The following are just 3 of dozens of articles on it:

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/dec2001/anth-d28.shtml
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A49502-2001Dec15?language=printer
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/1212-01.htm

I beleive that the Russian supply is secure because they would be risking
killing billions of their own people if it is not, same as the US.  If small
pox
is released it will be by either the US or Russian governement and part of a
much bigger plan.

Any country that is wanting to use small pox as a weapon will be wanting to
wipe
out the major portion of the population worldwide including their own.  It
cannot be used as a weapon without it coming back to them.  Most of the
population is no longer vaccinated against it.  So basically if it were used
it
would have to be in accordance with the global 2000 documents (NWO
directives)
on biological population reduction.  With the miserable failure of AIDs to
accomplish their aims, I doubt they will play the small pox card.  And as I
said, if they do, that will be the least of our worries.  After all CS
should
protect those of us here fine.

Marshall

Nysee wrote:

> How do you figure the anthrax mailings were from the Army?  Just Curious.
> Also how do you know the smallpox is secure just b/c Russia says so?  I
> would be more inclined to trust my own goverment over that of another
> country if I trusted any of them at all.
>
> Nysee
> - Original Message -
> From: "Marshall Dudley" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 10:32 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>FW: Smallpox
>
> > I don't know what all the hype is about small pox.  First of all there
are
> only
> > two sources of small pox available anywhere in the world. One is at the
> CDC in
> >
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RE: CS>FW: Smallpox

2002-09-26 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
See:

http://www.tetrahedron.org/

James-Osbourne: Holmes


-Original Message-
From: Nysee [mailto:nysee...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 11:28 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>FW: Smallpox


How do you figure the anthrax mailings were from the Army?  Just Curious.
Also how do you know the smallpox is secure just b/c Russia says so?  I
would be more inclined to trust my own goverment over that of another
country if I trusted any of them at all.

Nysee
- Original Message -
From: "Marshall Dudley" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: CS>FW: Smallpox


> I don't know what all the hype is about small pox.  First of all there are
only
> two sources of small pox available anywhere in the world. One is at the
CDC in
>


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Re: CS>FW: Smallpox

2002-09-26 Thread Nysee
There are things that worry me much more than smallpox and that would be
chemical weapons.  These weapons too have a poosibility of killing millions
if ever realeased.  Fact is if anyone is determined to hurt us there is a
way.

These articles are intresting but that does not mean the Army or goverment
itself sent them out just that some insane induviual there is likey to have
done it and that is where they got ahold of it which tells us they should be
watching thier stocks of anthrax better.

Nysee
- Original Message -
From: "Marshall Dudley" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: CS>FW: Smallpox


> Initially I found it on the web in alternate news sources, but later it
was in
> the newspaper here, and it was reported on CNN and the Washinton Post.  It
was
> tracked down to the Fort Dedrick army lab by the


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Re: CS>FW: Smallpox

2002-09-26 Thread Nysee
I read the cnn thing when it was first reported.  I belive they were trying
to acertain whether a man who worked there had access to it and it was
belived he did have acess to it an had worked with it and they searched his
home for clues to see if he was the one who mailed it or not.  Around the
time of the investigation he was set to begin a job at LSU who later fired
him due to a justice dpt letter telling them he could no longer work on
thier stuff and as far as I know he is still under investigation and
pleading innocense.

Nysee
- Original Message -
From: "Marshall Dudley" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: CS>FW: Smallpox


> Initially I found it on the web in alternate news sources, but later it
was in
> the newspaper here, and it was reported on CNN and


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Re: CS>FW: Smallpox

2002-09-26 Thread Marshall Dudley
Initially I found it on the web in alternate news sources, but later it was in
the newspaper here, and it was reported on CNN and the Washinton Post.  It was
tracked down to the Fort Dedrick army lab by the FBI, then they dropped the
investigation I believe one they realized it was a government operation.

The following are just 3 of dozens of articles on it:

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/dec2001/anth-d28.shtml
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A49502-2001Dec15?language=printer
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/1212-01.htm

I beleive that the Russian supply is secure because they would be risking
killing billions of their own people if it is not, same as the US.  If small pox
is released it will be by either the US or Russian governement and part of a
much bigger plan.

Any country that is wanting to use small pox as a weapon will be wanting to wipe
out the major portion of the population worldwide including their own.  It
cannot be used as a weapon without it coming back to them.  Most of the
population is no longer vaccinated against it.  So basically if it were used it
would have to be in accordance with the global 2000 documents (NWO directives)
on biological population reduction.  With the miserable failure of AIDs to
accomplish their aims, I doubt they will play the small pox card.  And as I
said, if they do, that will be the least of our worries.  After all CS should
protect those of us here fine.

Marshall

Nysee wrote:

> How do you figure the anthrax mailings were from the Army?  Just Curious.
> Also how do you know the smallpox is secure just b/c Russia says so?  I
> would be more inclined to trust my own goverment over that of another
> country if I trusted any of them at all.
>
> Nysee
> - Original Message -
> From: "Marshall Dudley" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 10:32 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>FW: Smallpox
>
> > I don't know what all the hype is about small pox.  First of all there are
> only
> > two sources of small pox available anywhere in the world. One is at the
> CDC in
> >
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Re: CS>FW: Smallpox

2002-09-26 Thread Marshall Dudley
Same here, went from once or twice a month to none after starting CS about 4
years ago.

Marshall

"James Osbourne, Holmes" wrote:

> Can you share with us the source of the CS you used, the amount you took
> over time?
>
> I have not had a Herpes Simplex breakout in about 6 years since taking a
> small amount of CS most every day.
>
> I used to have two or three real nasties annually.
>
> James-Osbourne: Holmes
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Roxanne [mailto:rtr...@bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 10:26 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: RE: CS>FW: Smallpox
>
> I don't know, I used to get Smallpox vaccinations on a regular basis.  They
> were supposed to help my Herpes Simplex virus infections.  I used to have
> them all over my face at various times.  As I got older, they became Herpes
> Zoster.  I would have breakouts very bad.  I only had a reaction once, the
> first one, given to me at the times they vacinated kids with them. They
> would give you a little cage like thing that went over the "sore" where they
> scratched your skin with some sort of glass. The others didn't do anything,
> not even a sore, and didn't affect the Herpes Simplex virus at all.  I got
> my last one in the early 70's, I was in my early 20's.
> I know some people die from vacinations.  The doctor even stopped the
> "pertusus", mispelled I'm sure, portion, of the vacinations that were given
> to my own children.  She would be very very sick afer them, and the doctor
> quit them.
>
> I don't know what the answer is . . . smallpox is not a pretty site, and
> large percentage of the people who got smallpox died from it.  The internet
> has some very vivid pictures of people with smallpox.  Just do an internet
> search and see them.
> I feel that those vacinations prevented more deaths of people than actually
> caused them.
>
> I didn't know about CS then, and CS didn't cure my Herpes infections either.
> I very smart doctor did with a drug.  I'm glad they developed it, because it
> has reduced my sufferings.  He put me on the drug, Zovirex for six months, a
> very log dosage.  It gave my immune system a boost, and in the last 15
> years, I've only had small eruptions.  If I feel like it's going to be a big
> one, I do take the drug and the ointment, but really haven't done that in
> years either.
>
> I know I will get blasted from this . . . but just my thoughts and
> experiences.
>
> Roxanne
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Connie [mailto:wufn...@stargate.net]
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 11:03 AM
> To: silver- list
> Subject: CS>FW: Smallpox
>
> I just posted the small pox info from this list to the CSCats-dogs list.
> I got this response back immediately.
> Connie
>
> >>>I don't remember if we ever covered this but.(...)'s Dad died from a
> smallpox vaccination when he was in his forties.  He was first
> paralized and then died within three days of vacination.
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Re: CS>FW: Smallpox

2002-09-26 Thread Nysee
How do you figure the anthrax mailings were from the Army?  Just Curious.
Also how do you know the smallpox is secure just b/c Russia says so?  I
would be more inclined to trust my own goverment over that of another
country if I trusted any of them at all.

Nysee
- Original Message -
From: "Marshall Dudley" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: CS>FW: Smallpox


> I don't know what all the hype is about small pox.  First of all there are
only
> two sources of small pox available anywhere in the world. One is at the
CDC in
>


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RE: CS>FW: Smallpox

2002-09-26 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Can you share with us the source of the CS you used, the amount you took
over time?

I have not had a Herpes Simplex breakout in about 6 years since taking a
small amount of CS most every day.

I used to have two or three real nasties annually.

James-Osbourne: Holmes


-Original Message-
From: Roxanne [mailto:rtr...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 10:26 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>FW: Smallpox



I don't know, I used to get Smallpox vaccinations on a regular basis.  They
were supposed to help my Herpes Simplex virus infections.  I used to have
them all over my face at various times.  As I got older, they became Herpes
Zoster.  I would have breakouts very bad.  I only had a reaction once, the
first one, given to me at the times they vacinated kids with them. They
would give you a little cage like thing that went over the "sore" where they
scratched your skin with some sort of glass. The others didn't do anything,
not even a sore, and didn't affect the Herpes Simplex virus at all.  I got
my last one in the early 70's, I was in my early 20's.
I know some people die from vacinations.  The doctor even stopped the
"pertusus", mispelled I'm sure, portion, of the vacinations that were given
to my own children.  She would be very very sick afer them, and the doctor
quit them.

I don't know what the answer is . . . smallpox is not a pretty site, and
large percentage of the people who got smallpox died from it.  The internet
has some very vivid pictures of people with smallpox.  Just do an internet
search and see them.
I feel that those vacinations prevented more deaths of people than actually
caused them.

I didn't know about CS then, and CS didn't cure my Herpes infections either.
I very smart doctor did with a drug.  I'm glad they developed it, because it
has reduced my sufferings.  He put me on the drug, Zovirex for six months, a
very log dosage.  It gave my immune system a boost, and in the last 15
years, I've only had small eruptions.  If I feel like it's going to be a big
one, I do take the drug and the ointment, but really haven't done that in
years either.

I know I will get blasted from this . . . but just my thoughts and
experiences.

Roxanne



-Original Message-
From: Connie [mailto:wufn...@stargate.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 11:03 AM
To: silver- list
Subject: CS>FW: Smallpox


I just posted the small pox info from this list to the CSCats-dogs list.
I got this response back immediately.
Connie



>>>I don't remember if we ever covered this but.(...)'s Dad died from a
smallpox vaccination when he was in his forties.  He was first
paralized and then died within three days of vacination.



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Re: CS>FW: Smallpox

2002-09-26 Thread Marshall Dudley
I don't know what all the hype is about small pox.  First of all there are only
two sources of small pox available anywhere in the world. One is at the CDC in
Atlanta, and the other is in Russia at their equivalent facility.  Russia has
stated that their's is secure and there is now way for it to get loose.  That
only leaves the US government supply.  So if the government is threatening a
smallpox attack, it would have to be from the government itself.  This is
possible, just like it turned out the anthrax mailings were from the US army,
but if they are spreading small pox on purpose, that will be the least of our
worries.

Marshall

Roxanne wrote:

> I don't know, I used to get Smallpox vaccinations on a regular basis.  They
> were supposed to help my Herpes Simplex virus infections.  I used to have
> them all over my face at various times.  As I got older, they became Herpes
> Zoster.  I would have breakouts very bad.  I only had a reaction once, the
> first one, given to me at the times they vacinated kids with them. They
> would give you a little cage like thing that went over the "sore" where they
> scratched your skin with some sort of glass. The others didn't do anything,
> not even a sore, and didn't affect the Herpes Simplex virus at all.  I got
> my last one in the early 70's, I was in my early 20's.
> I know some people die from vacinations.  The doctor even stopped the
> "pertusus", mispelled I'm sure, portion, of the vacinations that were given
> to my own children.  She would be very very sick afer them, and the doctor
> quit them.
>
> I don't know what the answer is . . . smallpox is not a pretty site, and
> large percentage of the people who got smallpox died from it.  The internet
> has some very vivid pictures of people with smallpox.  Just do an internet
> search and see them.
> I feel that those vacinations prevented more deaths of people than actually
> caused them.
>
> I didn't know about CS then, and CS didn't cure my Herpes infections either.
> I very smart doctor did with a drug.  I'm glad they developed it, because it
> has reduced my sufferings.  He put me on the drug, Zovirex for six months, a
> very log dosage.  It gave my immune system a boost, and in the last 15
> years, I've only had small eruptions.  If I feel like it's going to be a big
> one, I do take the drug and the ointment, but really haven't done that in
> years either.
>
> I know I will get blasted from this . . . but just my thoughts and
> experiences.
>
> Roxanne
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Connie [mailto:wufn...@stargate.net]
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 11:03 AM
> To: silver- list
> Subject: CS>FW: Smallpox
>
> I just posted the small pox info from this list to the CSCats-dogs list.
> I got this response back immediately.
> Connie
>
> >>>I don't remember if we ever covered this but.(...)'s Dad died from a
> smallpox vaccination when he was in his forties.  He was first
> paralized and then died within three days of vacination.
>
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RE: CS>FW: Smallpox

2002-09-26 Thread Roxanne

I don't know, I used to get Smallpox vaccinations on a regular basis.  They
were supposed to help my Herpes Simplex virus infections.  I used to have
them all over my face at various times.  As I got older, they became Herpes
Zoster.  I would have breakouts very bad.  I only had a reaction once, the
first one, given to me at the times they vacinated kids with them. They
would give you a little cage like thing that went over the "sore" where they
scratched your skin with some sort of glass. The others didn't do anything,
not even a sore, and didn't affect the Herpes Simplex virus at all.  I got
my last one in the early 70's, I was in my early 20's.
I know some people die from vacinations.  The doctor even stopped the
"pertusus", mispelled I'm sure, portion, of the vacinations that were given
to my own children.  She would be very very sick afer them, and the doctor
quit them.

I don't know what the answer is . . . smallpox is not a pretty site, and
large percentage of the people who got smallpox died from it.  The internet
has some very vivid pictures of people with smallpox.  Just do an internet
search and see them.
I feel that those vacinations prevented more deaths of people than actually
caused them.

I didn't know about CS then, and CS didn't cure my Herpes infections either.
I very smart doctor did with a drug.  I'm glad they developed it, because it
has reduced my sufferings.  He put me on the drug, Zovirex for six months, a
very log dosage.  It gave my immune system a boost, and in the last 15
years, I've only had small eruptions.  If I feel like it's going to be a big
one, I do take the drug and the ointment, but really haven't done that in
years either.

I know I will get blasted from this . . . but just my thoughts and
experiences.

Roxanne



-Original Message-
From: Connie [mailto:wufn...@stargate.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 11:03 AM
To: silver- list
Subject: CS>FW: Smallpox


I just posted the small pox info from this list to the CSCats-dogs list.
I got this response back immediately.
Connie



>>>I don't remember if we ever covered this but.(...)'s Dad died from a
smallpox vaccination when he was in his forties.  He was first
paralized and then died within three days of vacination.



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