Re: CS>Making CS

[Ode Coyote]

There are a few minor errors in those videos.
https://silverpuppy.com/article/youtube-videos

https://silverpuppy.com/article/instructions-silver-9-6120

ode

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 3:25 AM Deborah Gerard  wrote:

> This is on youtube on how to assemble and use hope it helpsIntroduction
> to Silver9
>
> Introduction to Silver9
>
> A demonstration of the assembly of Silver Puppy Colloidal Silver Generator
>
>
>
> On Friday, March 13, 2020, 12:00:48 AM EDT, Williams <
> gwms...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> HELP!!   Is there anyone in the New York City area with a Silver Puppy
> that can help me get mine going  Had it two years and have made only
> made two batches.   Don't even know how I did it.   The problem is the
> level of the water-- too high  too low?But still can't seem to do what
> everyone else does with ease … Make CS in the Silver Puppy.  Gladys
>

Re: CS>Making CS

[Ode Coyote]

You won't hurt the 'puppy' even with a dead short..it is protected every
which a-way.
 WATER quality is the biggest variable.
A TDS meter can be off...especially if tweeked by a water filter maker to
read low.

Submitted by odecoyote  on Tue,
06/30/2015 - 07:48

To test for water contamination: [Using the generator ]

Fill container with fresh water to the proper level ..set everything up
normally.
Start running the batch in "manual" mode. ["Silver 9"  Press the button so
the Yellow LED lights up ]
Observe how bright the Green/Red LED is on top.
 Now sloowly pull the generator/electrode assembly out of the water while
watching the LED.

If that LED DOESN'T start getting dimmer *immediately*...that water
is no good.
If the LED starts dimming when the electrodes are nearly out of the
water...it's WAY no good.
If it doesn't dim at all before the electrodes clear the water and the LED
goes out...that water is WAY WAY no good. [20 uS or over]
[Incidentally, the reverse works to tell you how far along you are.  If the
“CS” looks like “bad water”..the batch is about done ]


Solution:
Get a different jug of water.
Make sure you aren't contaminating good water with water spots, dirty jar
or even finger prints.

The best way to clean a jar is to boil distilled water in it...[fill it /
Nuke it]


 There are many ways to contaminate water and no two jugs of water are
exactly the same regardless of who distilled and bottled it.

[Most of them are fine, but everybody has a bad day now and then]

***If the water is EXTREMELY pure, you may need a pitch dark room to
see that the LED is lit at all.***






** COM-100 Meters will be set to use “As IS” in CS before shipping.

All hand held PWT/TDS/PPM meters work the same way. They actually measure
conductivity not PPM. They are simply not the same thing.

TDS (PPM) meters such as the TDS3 also measure conductivity but then
convert that measurement to an estimated PPM using water industry standard
tables for dissolved salts. [NaCl in this case] (also known as Total
Dissolved Solids or TDS)

Since Ionic/Colloidal Silver is not a mineral salt, it behaves differently
and requires a different technique for reading the TDS meter.

The reading can generally be taken ‘as is’ when checking pure distilled
water or when checking any other water source such as tap or well water.
(ie 200 on the meter = 200 PPM)
However, when checking Colloidal Silver made with pure distilled water the
reading should be doubled. [If it reads 10, it’s actually 20 PPM of
colloidal silver]

Due to range and resolution limitations,  when measuring colloidal silver
with this meter  you should also allow for an error factor of at least +/-
10% . So for example 10 on the TDS meter could be as high as 22 PPM or as
low as 18 PPM  (when doubled).

Meters such as the Hanna PWT, the HM Digital EC3 and COM-100 read out
directly in Microsiemens of Conductivity [uS].
The COM100 also reads out in 3 different scenarios for PPM depending on the
suspected dominant mineral salt content.
Silver water is NOT salt water.

To get an idea of what the PPM is in CS, use 1uS = ~1 PPM.
 Since the conductivity will start dropping as soon as power is off, Use
Meter immediately after shutdown.
Concentrations over the saturation point of Ionic Silver in water [~ 13.3
PPM ] will progressively and variably form more and more non-conductive
“particles” accounting for some of the difference between Faraday Equation
Prediction vs Conductivity Monitoring.
 Beyond around 25 PPM in silver water a meter reading will have
considerable slew towards the low side and a batch may never register more
than 30 uS the day after it’s done even though it may really be 50+ PPM

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 11:31 AM  wrote:

> *Lady I am no expert but I can not imagine not knowing how to work a
> Silver Puppy with a power supply that plugs into the wall and into the
> Silver Puppy. So I am going to assume that your problem is the water. It is
> not really a too high or too low of a water level because only the CS is
> made with what element is in the water. So I am going to use the S.W.A.G.
> system to answer your question. That stands for Scientific Wild Ass Guess.
> I think your problem might be that you forgot to use distilled water. If
> you use regular tap water it has minerals in it and will short out the
> process. May even damage your power supply. Some distilled water is not
> pure enough and still has minerals in it and won’t work. That is why your
> little tester should be put into the water and it should read “0” zero
> before you begin. Hope this helps.*
>
>
>
> *Floyd*
>
>
>
> *From:* Williams 
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 12, 2020 8:41 PM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* CS>Making CS
>
>
>
>
>
> HELP!!   Is there anyone in the New York City area with a Silver Puppy
> that can help me get mine going  Had it two years and have made only
> made two batches.   Don't even know how I 

RE: CS>Making CS

[fpetri]

Lady I am no expert but I can not imagine not knowing how to work a Silver 
Puppy with a power supply that plugs into the wall and into the Silver Puppy. 
So I am going to assume that your problem is the water. It is not really a too 
high or too low of a water level because only the CS is made with what element 
is in the water. So I am going to use the S.W.A.G. system to answer your 
question. That stands for Scientific Wild Ass Guess. I think your problem might 
be that you forgot to use distilled water. If you use regular tap water it has 
minerals in it and will short out the process. May even damage your power 
supply. Some distilled water is not pure enough and still has minerals in it 
and won’t work. That is why your little tester should be put into the water and 
it should read “0” zero before you begin. Hope this helps.

 

Floyd

 

From: Williams  
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 8:41 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Making CS

 

 

HELP!!   Is there anyone in the New York City area with a Silver Puppy that can 
help me get mine going  Had it two years and have made only made two 
batches.   Don't even know how I did it.   The problem is the level of the 
water-- too high  too low?But still can't seem to do what everyone else 
does with ease … Make CS in the Silver Puppy.  Gladys

Re: CS>Making CS

[Reid Harvey]

Could it be that you're using poor quality distilled water?  With my
SilverPuppy the lights shut off after 2 hours, while with good quality
distilled water this would be around 7 hours, then ~10ppm.  To get 10ppm I
push the button 5 times to get up to the 10ppm.

As Ode says, "...if the light is on you're making it..." I.e., EIS -
electrically isolated silver.  You're also hearing people say not to worry
about the yellow, that it's just some minor impurity.  Maybe try different
distilled water.  Maybe don't expect perfect 10ppm EIS, made without
pushing the button.

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020, 12:00 AM Williams  wrote:

>
> HELP!!   Is there anyone in the New York City area with a Silver Puppy
> that can help me get mine going  Had it two years and have made only
> made two batches.   Don't even know how I did it.   The problem is the
> level of the water-- too high  too low?But still can't seem to do what
> everyone else does with ease … Make CS in the Silver Puppy.  Gladys
>

Re: CS>Making CS

[Deborah Gerard]

 This is on youtube on how to assemble and use hope it helpsIntroduction to 
Silver9

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Introduction to Silver9

A demonstration of the assembly of Silver Puppy Colloidal Silver Generator
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On Friday, March 13, 2020, 12:00:48 AM EDT, Williams 
 wrote:  
 
  



HELP!!   Is there anyone in the New York City area with a Silver Puppy that can 
help me get mine going  Had it two years and have made only made two 
batches.   Don't even know how I did it.   The problem is the level of the 
water-- too high  too low?    But still can't seem to do what everyone else 
does with ease … Make CS in the Silver Puppy.  Gladys
   

Re: CS**Making CS***

[boberger]

Chuck;

Why don't you remove the speedometer from your car its only there from the
purpose of standardizing ones driving speed..

Don't you get tired of all of the newbies wondering why this or that doesn't
work? If some one would only tell them the data needed to make good stuff
half of the CS talk on this list would disappear.

OLE BOB :(




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Re: CS**Making CS***

[Charles King]

On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 22:19:23 -0500, bober...@swbell.net wrote:

Don't you get tired of all of the newbies wondering why this or that doesn't
work? If some one would only tell them the data needed to make good stuff
half of the CS talk on this list would disappear.

OLE BOB :(

No, I LIKE newbies. I learn more from THEM!

Chuck
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Re: CS**Making CS***

[Scharbach]

The problem is, while NOW I can understand and begin to compute much of what
you are saying, when I first came to this list, I was way too fogged over to
understand
ANY of it.

Marsha can attest to the fact that I had to call her, even after her simple
instructions,
to figure out how to hook up the leads to start making silver.   (I'm not a
stupid moron
normally, either)

Makes it overwhelming, and intimidating to see all the techie stuff at
that point in time.
All I cared about was getting better.   Which I am now, much!

Sparrow


Don't you get tired of all of the newbies wondering why this or that
doesn't
work? If some one would only tell them the data needed to make good stuff
half of the CS talk on this list would disappear.



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Re: CS**Making CS***

[Marsha Hallett]

The problem is, while NOW I can understand and begin to compute much of
what
you are saying, when I first came to this list, I was way too fogged over
to
understand
ANY of it.
Marsha can attest to the fact that I had to call her, even after her
simple
instructions,
to figure out how to hook up the leads to start making silver.   (I'm not a
stupid moron
normally, either)
Makes it overwhelming, and intimidating to see all the techie stuff at
that point in time.
All I cared about was getting better.   Which I am now, much!

Sparrow

Dear Sparrow, Hooray for you! Go Girl, get totally WELL!
Love,
Marsha
PS, I delete so many of the techie posts, they are just way past me...and I
went to college!
I`m just glad the gadget the good Lord sent me works...


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Re: CS**Making CS***

[Charles King]

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 00:09:31 -0500, d.linen li...@flash.net wrote:

 I can't show proof that a scientist would want but my
own experience is good enough for me.

EXACTLY!
Case closed!!
STANDARDS? I don't need no steeenking standards
Chuck
(feeling a bit controversial tonight)

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Re: CS**Making CS***

[M. G. Devour]

David wrote:

  Some people say to make your own CS and *use* salt
  in the water (to speed up the electrolysis).
 
  Others say to *never* use salt--it makes big particles,
  makes a chloride, etc. .
 
  Do you know of anyone who has **proved** which way is
  correct?

Peter Lindemann's article, at: 

   http://www.elixa.com/silver/lindmn.htm

...is one of the main sources of the don't use salt school of
thought. He has had salt enhanced CS looked at under the electron
microscope and verified that it has bigger particles than that made
without salt. 

The only catch is that he has not chosen to publish any data, as far
as I know, so we have to take his word for this, or spend hundreds of
dollars on testing ourselves. I know of nobody who has repeated his 
work *and* published the micrographs.

(If anybody *has*, please let me know!! Thanks.)

As Chuck says, it's easy enough not to use salt, and we've reached a 
fairly settled consensus not to. But folks have and are using salt 
and not dropping dead or turning grey from it as far as we've been 
able to learn, so there may be no definitive answer.

You're asking the right kind of questions, David. Just be patient 
with the confliction opinions you'll run across. You'll soon figure 
out that just about any method *can* be made to work, and that 
most improvements on the basics are no more than enhancements of 
something that already is adequate.

Be well,

Mike D.
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Re: CS**Making CS***

[Charles King]

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 22:28:26 -0400 (EDT), gam...@thegame.com wrote:


 Some people say to make your own CS and *use* salt
 in the water (to speed up the electrolysis).

 Others say to *never* use salt--it makes big particles,
 makes a chloride, etc. .


 Do you know of anyone who has **proved** which way is
 correct?

No, but...
I wouldn't want anything in the water except high purity silver.
Look at it this way..it only takes about 45 minutes to make a batch with
pure water. 
Time enough for a nice meditation.
Look, your whole life is improving already...
Chuck
Power corrupts--isn't that what it's for?


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Re: CS**Making CS***

[Marsha Hallett]

9/26/1999
 Hello!
 I am starting to learn about colloidal silver.
 I would like to learn how to make colloidal silver.
 Some people say to make your own CS and *use* salt
 in the water (to speed up the electrolysis).
 Others say to *never* use salt--it makes big particles,
 makes a chloride, etc. .
 Do you know of anyone who has **proved** which way is
 correct?
 Can you suggest any websites regarding this?
 Thanks for your help.
 David


Dear David, Hi!
I`m Marsha, one of the oldies on the List, and I`ve been using CS for well
over 3 years now. I was a Lyme sufferer for nearly 6 years. I first found
out about making CS with salt, and that is what cured my Lyme after all the
antibiotics couldn`t. Later I learned that salt really isn`t necessary, so
now I make it without. Both work!
I can send directions for the simple generator, if you`d like, and others on
the list have one you can buy reasonably.
Welcome to the list, and I`ll be hoping that CS will help you out as well as
it has me!
Marsha, in Vallejo, CA


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Re: CS**Making CS***

[d.linen]

HI Marsha, David and all,

I have an anectdotal story that I can relate tonight. I have very
sensitive skin and just the pressure of something against it can cause
something called contact hives. I've usually taken a Benadryl for the
itching that occurs when this happens. Today I put some of my homemade
CS (says she proudly) on the area and the itching stopped within
moments. I still have a few of the red raised marks on my arm but the
itching is gone. I can't show proof that a scientist would want but my
own experience is good enough for me. In the past when this happens I
end up just scratching and rubbing the areas till the condition is much
worse and until the Benadryls work. This is a very happy revalation for
me. Once my brother asked me why there was this long red mark on my neck
and I couldn't think why either till I remembered that the shoulder
harness had pressed against it when I drove my car earlier that day. 

FWIW. 

Thanks for listening and helping me to learn more about CS.

Diane

Marsha Hallett wrote:
 
 9/26/1999
  Hello!
  I am starting to learn about colloidal silver.
  I would like to learn how to make colloidal silver.
  Some people say to make your own CS and *use* salt
  in the water (to speed up the electrolysis).
  Others say to *never* use salt--it makes big particles,
  makes a chloride, etc. .
  Do you know of anyone who has **proved** which way is
  correct?
  Can you suggest any websites regarding this?
  Thanks for your help.
  David
 
 Dear David, Hi!
 I`m Marsha, one of the oldies on the List, and I`ve been using CS for well
 over 3 years now. I was a Lyme sufferer for nearly 6 years. I first found
 out about making CS with salt, and that is what cured my Lyme after all the
 antibiotics couldn`t. Later I learned that salt really isn`t necessary, so
 now I make it without. Both work!
 I can send directions for the simple generator, if you`d like, and others on
 the list have one you can buy reasonably.
 Welcome to the list, and I`ll be hoping that CS will help you out as well as
 it has me!
 Marsha, in Vallejo, CA
 
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Re: CS**Making CS***

[M. G. Devour]

Thank you, Diane,

Every little bit helps! I'm glad it gave you relief!

Be well,

Mike D.

 HI Marsha, David and all,
 
 I have an anectdotal story that I can relate tonight. I have very
 sensitive skin and just the pressure of something against it can
 cause something called contact hives. I've usually taken a Benadryl
 for the itching that occurs when this happens. Today I put some of
 my homemade CS (says she proudly) on the area and the itching
 stopped within moments. I still have a few of the red raised marks
 on my arm but the itching is gone. I can't show proof that a
 scientist would want but my own experience is good enough for me. In
 the past when this happens I end up just scratching and rubbing the
 areas till the condition is much worse and until the Benadryls work.
 This is a very happy revalation for me. Once my brother asked me why
 there was this long red mark on my neck and I couldn't think why
 either till I remembered that the shoulder harness had pressed
 against it when I drove my car earlier that day. 
 
 FWIW. 
 
 Thanks for listening and helping me to learn more about CS.
 
 Diane

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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