Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

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RE: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

2009-08-24 Thread Dianne France

http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/library.htm  you might find an article in his 
library archives.

I wasn't sure what to look for.
 
> From: t...@silvergen.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation
> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:04:57 -0700
> 
> Hi Marshall,
> 
> I only keep at it because Dr. Hans Nieper had such good success with blocked 
> carotid arteries about 25-30 years ago. Can't remember where the 
> info/report he wrote is. Anyway, after reading it 4 years ago I started 
> taking large quantities daily and stroked within 2 weeks. Then had the 
> surgery a year later. Waited a while and started taking 40,000 units daily 
> and am still doing it. I'm not convinced it has to have blood flow in order 
> to dissolve the plaque. I feel it can eat away at the plaque from 
> contacting it and slowly dissolve it over time. Nieper's results were in 
> two year periods so I'm still being positive.
> 
> Trem
> 
> 
> - Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marshall Dudley" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 9:06 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation
> 
> 
> >I am puzzled how serrapeptase can do anything with a completely blocked 
> >vein or artery, how can it even get there to do anything? I liken it to a 
> >carburetor that one has allowed the gas to dry out of, and has stopped it 
> >up with the varnish left behind. I have put gas back into such carburetors 
> >for months, and the small orifice still will not clear simply because the 
> >gas is unable to make it into there. If you can get ANY flow through, then 
> >it will clean out quickly, getting the initial flow is the hard part. But 
> >if serrapeptase will indeed unblock a completely blocked artery, then that 
> >would be great. I just don't see how it could though. Maybe even when they 
> >are considered completely blocked, they still have a very small amount of 
> >flow through them.
> >
> > Marshall
> >
> >
> > Trem wrote:
> >> Steve,
> >> I have a complete blockage on the left side and had an endarterectomy 
> >> several years ago but it's still blocked above the repair site. I was 
> >> and am hoping to somehow dissolve the blockage before I croak. sure hope 
> >> it works so I take it t20,000 units twice daily.
> >> Trem
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> *From:* Norton, Steve <mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com>
> >> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>
> >> *Sent:* Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:01 PM
> >> *Subject:* Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation
> >>
> >> I agree.
> >> l was commenting on the post about Nattokinase for a partial
> >> carotid artery blockage.
> >> - Steve N
> >>
> >> 
> >> *From*: Trem mailto:t...@silvergen.com>>
> >> *To*: silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>
> >> mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>>
> >> *Sent*: Sun Aug 23 14:46:19 2009
> >> *Subject*: Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation
> >>
> >> Hi Steve,
> >> I think Serrapeptase is best for cleaning plaque out. Here's a
> >> link showing Hans Niepers work many tears ago. 
> >> http://www.life-enthusiast.com/enzyme/serrapeptase.pdf
> >> Trem
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> *From:* Norton, Steve <mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com>
> >> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>
> >> *Sent:* Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:30 PM
> >> *Subject:* Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation
> >>
> >> Nattokinese could be more effective in that specific instance
> >> because it dissolves blood clots and not because it dissolves
> >> arterial plaque. I believe it does not dissolve arterial plaque.
> >> - Steve N
> >>
> >> 
> >> *From*: Dorothy Fitzpatrick  >> <mailto:d...@deetroy.org>>
> >> *To*: silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>
> >> mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>>
> >> *Sent*: Sun Aug 23 13:49:10 2009
> >> *Subject*: Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation
> >>
> >> I'm not sure about nattokinese either sol, as I read Dr Wong
> >> on this and he didn't like the blood thinning proper

Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

2009-08-24 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Unfortunately, enteric coating is highly toxic, especially to  
children.  They contain phathalates I believe.  I get my serrapeptase  
from Rainbow Wellbeing and they say that they have tested efficacy of  
both enteric coated tablets and those with none, and there is no  
difference almost.  They say that as long as it is taken on an empty  
stomach there should be no problem with stomach acid.  They sell both  
kinds so are not biased, I wouldn't have thought.  dee


On 24 Aug 2009, at 18:53, Norton, Steve wrote:


As much as half of the Serrapeptase taken can be destroyed in the
stomach if the capsule is not enteric coated to prevent it from
dissolving in the stomach. Most serrapeptase sold is enteric coated  
but

I have bought it in powdered form too.
- Steve N





Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

2009-08-24 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Yes Marshall, I too have read that now but can't remember where I read  
the first bit!  Maybe it was something that was dredged out from years  
ago.  But I have  read since that it has been in use in Germany for  
around 30 years.  Also Japan, and it has excellent right ups in many  
places so I think I will ignore the first bit.  dee


On 24 Aug 2009, at 16:46, Marshall Dudley wrote:

I read that also somewhere. But it makes no sense to me since from  
what I can remember it has been in heavy use in Europe for around 20  
years.  I am taking 100,000 units twice a day myself, and have  
noticed the following:


prostate shrinkage
not getting out of breath so much now
more energy, less fatigue
floaters in eye seem to have gone

Marshall

D


RE: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

2009-08-24 Thread Norton, Steve
As much as half of the Serrapeptase taken can be destroyed in the
stomach if the capsule is not enteric coated to prevent it from
dissolving in the stomach. Most serrapeptase sold is enteric coated but
I have bought it in powdered form too.
 - Steve N

-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 8:43 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

Is serrapeptase poorly absorbed?  I have not heard that before.

Marshall

Stephen Rose wrote:
> I'm beginning to think that serrapeptase might benefit from this.
>
> Steve
>
>



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Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

2009-08-24 Thread Trem

Hi Marshall,

I only keep at it because Dr. Hans Nieper had such good success with blocked 
carotid arteries about 25-30 years ago.  Can't remember where the 
info/report he wrote is.  Anyway, after reading it 4 years ago I started 
taking large quantities daily and stroked within 2 weeks.  Then had the 
surgery a year later.  Waited a while and started taking 40,000 units daily 
and am still doing it.  I'm not convinced it has to have blood flow in order 
to dissolve the plaque.  I feel it can eat away at the plaque from 
contacting it and slowly dissolve it over time.  Nieper's results were in 
two year periods so I'm still being positive.


Trem


- Original Message - 
From: "Marshall Dudley" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation


I am puzzled how serrapeptase can do anything with a completely blocked 
vein or artery, how can it even get there to do anything?  I liken it to a 
carburetor that one has allowed the gas to dry out of, and has stopped it 
up with the varnish left behind. I have put gas back into such carburetors 
for months, and the small orifice still will not clear simply because the 
gas is unable to make it into there.  If you can get ANY flow through, then 
it will clean out quickly, getting the initial flow is the hard part.  But 
if serrapeptase will indeed unblock a completely blocked artery, then that 
would be great. I just don't see how it could though.  Maybe even when they 
are considered completely blocked, they still have a very small amount of 
flow through them.


Marshall


Trem wrote:

Steve,
 I have a complete blockage on the left side  and had an endarterectomy 
several years ago but it's still blocked above the repair site.  I was 
and am hoping to somehow dissolve the blockage before I croak.  sure hope 
it works so I take it t20,000 units twice daily.

 Trem

- Original Message -
 *From:* Norton, Steve <mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com>
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:01 PM
*Subject:* Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

I agree.
l was commenting on the post about Nattokinase for a partial
carotid artery blockage.
- Steve N


*From*: Trem mailto:t...@silvergen.com>>
*To*: silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>
mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>>
*Sent*: Sun Aug 23 14:46:19 2009
*Subject*: Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

Hi Steve,
 I think Serrapeptase is best for cleaning plaque out.  Here's a
link showing Hans Niepers work many tears ago. 
http://www.life-enthusiast.com/enzyme/serrapeptase.pdf

 Trem

- Original Message -
*From:* Norton, Steve <mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com>
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>
    *Sent:* Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:30 PM
*Subject:* Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

Nattokinese could be more effective in that specific instance
because it dissolves blood clots and not because it dissolves
arterial plaque. I believe it does not dissolve arterial plaque.
- Steve N


*From*: Dorothy Fitzpatrick mailto:d...@deetroy.org>>
*To*: silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>
mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>>
*Sent*: Sun Aug 23 13:49:10 2009
*Subject*: Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

I'm not sure about nattokinese either sol, as I read Dr Wong
on this and he didn't like the blood thinning properties of
it.  dee

On 23 Aug 2009, at 19:04, sol wrote:


Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

Do you have any info on Serrapeptase Steve?

I'm not Steve, but I have a friend who has tried Serrapeptase
but gets better results with Nattokinase. (she has some kind
of partial carotid artery blockage).
sol


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Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

2009-08-24 Thread Marshall Dudley
I am puzzled how serrapeptase can do anything with a completely blocked 
vein or artery, how can it even get there to do anything?  I liken it to 
a carburetor that one has allowed the gas to dry out of, and has stopped 
it up with the varnish left behind. I have put gas back into such 
carburetors for months, and the small orifice still will not clear 
simply because the gas is unable to make it into there.  If you can get 
ANY flow through, then it will clean out quickly, getting the initial 
flow is the hard part.  But if serrapeptase will indeed unblock a 
completely blocked artery, then that would be great. I just don't see 
how it could though.  Maybe even when they are considered completely 
blocked, they still have a very small amount of flow through them.


Marshall


Trem wrote:

Steve,
 
I have a complete blockage on the left side  and had an endarterectomy 
several years ago but it's still blocked above the repair site.  I was 
and am hoping to somehow dissolve the blockage before I croak.  sure 
hope it works so I take it t20,000 units twice daily.
 
Trem


- Original Message -
 
*From:* Norton, Steve <mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com>

*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:01 PM
    *Subject:* Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

I agree.
l was commenting on the post about Nattokinase for a partial
carotid artery blockage.
- Steve N


*From*: Trem mailto:t...@silvergen.com>>
*To*: silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>
mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>>
*Sent*: Sun Aug 23 14:46:19 2009
*Subject*: Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

Hi Steve,
 
I think Serrapeptase is best for cleaning plaque out.  Here's a
link showing Hans Niepers work many tears ago. 
http://www.life-enthusiast.com/enzyme/serrapeptase.pdf
 
Trem


- Original Message -
*From:* Norton, Steve <mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com>
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>
    *Sent:* Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:30 PM
*Subject:* Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

Nattokinese could be more effective in that specific instance
because it dissolves blood clots and not because it dissolves
arterial plaque. I believe it does not dissolve arterial plaque.
- Steve N


*From*: Dorothy Fitzpatrick mailto:d...@deetroy.org>>
*To*: silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>
mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>>
*Sent*: Sun Aug 23 13:49:10 2009
*Subject*: Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

I'm not sure about nattokinese either sol, as I read Dr Wong
on this and he didn't like the blood thinning properties of
it.  dee

On 23 Aug 2009, at 19:04, sol wrote:


Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

Do you have any info on Serrapeptase Steve?

I'm not Steve, but I have a friend who has tried Serrapeptase
but gets better results with Nattokinase. (she has some kind
of partial carotid artery blockage).
sol


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Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

2009-08-24 Thread Marshall Dudley
I read that also somewhere. But it makes no sense to me since from what 
I can remember it has been in heavy use in Europe for around 20 years.  
I am taking 100,000 units twice a day myself, and have noticed the 
following:


prostate shrinkage
not getting out of breath so much now
more energy, less fatigue
floaters in eye seem to have gone

Marshall

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
Do you have any info on Serrapeptase Steve?  I have been taking this 
but recently read that one should only take 20,000 active units of 
this because the effects are as yet unchartered.  Can't remember what 
expert it was who said this though.  It was on one of the hundreds of 
web sites I trawl.  dee


On 23 Aug 2009, at 07:42, Stephen Rose wrote:


I'm beginning to think that serrapeptase might benefit from this.

Steve







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Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

2009-08-24 Thread Marshall Dudley

Is serrapeptase poorly absorbed?  I have not heard that before.

Marshall

Stephen Rose wrote:

I'm beginning to think that serrapeptase might benefit from this.

Steve






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Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

2009-08-24 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I see from this Smitty, that it should *not* be combined with other  
enzymes.  Maybe this is why Dr Wong has withdrawn his support, because  
I notice that it is included in some brands *with* other proteolytic  
enzymes.  Good link. dee


On 23 Aug 2009, at 23:05, Smitty wrote:

l was commenting on the post about Nattokinase for a partial  
carotid artery

blockage.
- Steve N


Here's some info on Nattokinase =

http://tinyurl.com/m2g3fp

Smitty


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Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

2009-08-24 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Dr Wong did at one time, endorse products that contained nattokinese,  
but now does not.  He seemed to feel pretty strongly about it so I  
would assume that something must have caused this turn around.  dee


On 23 Aug 2009, at 20:30, Norton, Steve wrote:

Nattokinese could be more effective in that specific instance  
because it dissolves blood clots and not because it dissolves  
arterial plaque. I believe it does not dissolve arterial plaque.

- Steve N





Re: Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

2009-08-23 Thread Acmeair

Trem,    have you taken the liberty to look at Dr. linus Pauling's/ Dr. Mathis' work on Vita C. and lysine and proline, as it affects the ridding of plaque???  this work is why i'm so interested in Mr. Bradley's new NET,  i.e. high consumption of vita c, without reaching the "bowell limit".  this is all so new, and so very interesting.    good luck in your research,  wherever it takes you. jimAug 23, 2009 07:05:46 PM, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote:
 
Steve,
 
I have a complete blockage on the left side  and had an endarterectomy several years ago but it's still blocked above the repair site.  I was and am hoping to somehow dissolve the blockage before I croak.  sure hope it works so I take it t20,000 units twice daily.
 
Trem

- Original Message - 
 
From: Norton, Steve 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

I agree. l was commenting on the post about Nattokinase for a partial carotid artery blockage.- Steve N


From: Trem <t...@silvergen.com> To: silver-list@eskimo.com <silver-list@eskimo.com> Sent: Sun Aug 23 14:46:19 2009Subject: Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation 
Hi Steve,
 
I think Serrapeptase is best for cleaning plaque out.  Here's a link showing Hans Niepers work many tears ago.  http://www.life-enthusiast.com/enzyme/serrapeptase.pdf
 
Trem

 


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Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

2009-08-23 Thread Trem
Steve,

I have a complete blockage on the left side  and had an endarterectomy several 
years ago but it's still blocked above the repair site.  I was and am hoping to 
somehow dissolve the blockage before I croak.  sure hope it works so I take it 
t20,000 units twice daily.

Trem
  - Original Message - 

  From: Norton, Steve 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:01 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation


  I agree. 
  l was commenting on the post about Nattokinase for a partial carotid artery 
blockage.
  - Steve N



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  From: Trem  
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
  Sent: Sun Aug 23 14:46:19 2009
  Subject: Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation 


  Hi Steve,

  I think Serrapeptase is best for cleaning plaque out.  Here's a link showing 
Hans Niepers work many tears ago.  
http://www.life-enthusiast.com/enzyme/serrapeptase.pdf

  Trem
- Original Message - 
From: Norton, Steve 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:30 PM
    Subject: Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation


Nattokinese could be more effective in that specific instance because it 
dissolves blood clots and not because it dissolves arterial plaque. I believe 
it does not dissolve arterial plaque. 
- Steve N




From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
Sent: Sun Aug 23 13:49:10 2009
    Subject: Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation 


I'm not sure about nattokinese either sol, as I read Dr Wong on this and he 
didn't like the blood thinning properties of it.  dee 


On 23 Aug 2009, at 19:04, sol wrote:


  Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

Do you have any info on Serrapeptase Steve? 

  I'm not Steve, but I have a friend who has tried Serrapeptase but gets 
better results with Nattokinase. (she has some kind of partial carotid artery 
blockage).
  sol


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RE: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

2009-08-23 Thread jessie70
I remember reading about a man who had extensive scar tissue from playing near 
Chernobyle as a child. His body was riddled with pain until he found 
Serraptease. Jess
  -Original Message-
  From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com]
  Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 5:01 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation


  I agree. 
  l was commenting on the post about Nattokinase for a partial carotid artery 
blockage.
  - Steve N



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  From: Trem  
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
  Sent: Sun Aug 23 14:46:19 2009
  Subject: Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation 


  Hi Steve,

  I think Serrapeptase is best for cleaning plaque out.  Here's a link showing 
Hans Niepers work many tears ago.  
http://www.life-enthusiast.com/enzyme/serrapeptase.pdf

  Trem
- Original Message - 
From: Norton, Steve 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:30 PM
    Subject: Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation


Nattokinese could be more effective in that specific instance because it 
dissolves blood clots and not because it dissolves arterial plaque. I believe 
it does not dissolve arterial plaque. 
- Steve N




From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
Sent: Sun Aug 23 13:49:10 2009
    Subject: Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation 


I'm not sure about nattokinese either sol, as I read Dr Wong on this and he 
didn't like the blood thinning properties of it.  dee 


On 23 Aug 2009, at 19:04, sol wrote:


  Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

Do you have any info on Serrapeptase Steve? 

  I'm not Steve, but I have a friend who has tried Serrapeptase but gets 
better results with Nattokinase. (she has some kind of partial carotid artery 
blockage).
  sol


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Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

2009-08-23 Thread Smitty
> l was commenting on the post about Nattokinase for a partial carotid artery
> blockage.
>  - Steve N

Here's some info on Nattokinase =

http://tinyurl.com/m2g3fp

Smitty


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Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

2009-08-23 Thread Norton, Steve
I agree. 
l was commenting on the post about Nattokinase for a partial carotid artery 
blockage.
- Steve N



From: Trem  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
Sent: Sun Aug 23 14:46:19 2009
Subject: Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation 


Hi Steve,
 
I think Serrapeptase is best for cleaning plaque out.  Here's a link showing 
Hans Niepers work many tears ago.  
http://www.life-enthusiast.com/enzyme/serrapeptase.pdf
 
Trem

- Original Message - 
From: Norton, Steve <mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com>  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:30 PM
        Subject: Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

Nattokinese could be more effective in that specific instance because 
it dissolves blood clots and not because it dissolves arterial plaque. I 
believe it does not dissolve arterial plaque. 
- Steve N



From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
Sent: Sun Aug 23 13:49:10 2009
        Subject: Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation 


I'm not sure about nattokinese either sol, as I read Dr Wong on this 
and he didn't like the blood thinning properties of it.  dee 

On 23 Aug 2009, at 19:04, sol wrote:


Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:


Do you have any info on Serrapeptase Steve? 


I'm not Steve, but I have a friend who has tried Serrapeptase 
but gets better results with Nattokinase. (she has some kind of partial carotid 
artery blockage).
sol


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Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

2009-08-23 Thread Trem
Hi Steve,

I think Serrapeptase is best for cleaning plaque out.  Here's a link showing 
Hans Niepers work many tears ago.  
http://www.life-enthusiast.com/enzyme/serrapeptase.pdf

Trem
  - Original Message - 
  From: Norton, Steve 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:30 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation


  Nattokinese could be more effective in that specific instance because it 
dissolves blood clots and not because it dissolves arterial plaque. I believe 
it does not dissolve arterial plaque. 
  - Steve N



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  From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick  
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
  Sent: Sun Aug 23 13:49:10 2009
  Subject: Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation 


  I'm not sure about nattokinese either sol, as I read Dr Wong on this and he 
didn't like the blood thinning properties of it.  dee


  On 23 Aug 2009, at 19:04, sol wrote:


Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

  Do you have any info on Serrapeptase Steve? 

I'm not Steve, but I have a friend who has tried Serrapeptase but gets 
better results with Nattokinase. (she has some kind of partial carotid artery 
blockage).
sol


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Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

2009-08-23 Thread Norton, Steve
Nattokinese could be more effective in that specific instance because it 
dissolves blood clots and not because it dissolves arterial plaque. I believe 
it does not dissolve arterial plaque. 
- Steve N



From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
Sent: Sun Aug 23 13:49:10 2009
Subject: Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation 


I'm not sure about nattokinese either sol, as I read Dr Wong on this and he 
didn't like the blood thinning properties of it.  dee

On 23 Aug 2009, at 19:04, sol wrote:


Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:


Do you have any info on Serrapeptase Steve? 


I'm not Steve, but I have a friend who has tried Serrapeptase but gets 
better results with Nattokinase. (she has some kind of partial carotid artery 
blockage).
sol


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Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

2009-08-23 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I'm not sure about nattokinese either sol, as I read Dr Wong on this  
and he didn't like the blood thinning properties of it.  dee


On 23 Aug 2009, at 19:04, sol wrote:


Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

Do you have any info on Serrapeptase Steve?
I'm not Steve, but I have a friend who has tried Serrapeptase but  
gets better results with Nattokinase. (she has some kind of partial  
carotid artery blockage).

sol


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Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

2009-08-23 Thread sol

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
Do you have any info on Serrapeptase Steve? 
I'm not Steve, but I have a friend who has tried Serrapeptase but gets 
better results with Nattokinase. (she has some kind of partial carotid 
artery blockage).

sol


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Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

2009-08-23 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick

I read this too.  dee

On 23 Aug 2009, at 16:55, Stephen Rose wrote:

Sorry, not especially.  I've just read that it has a hard time  
getting through the digestive system.


Steve


Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:




Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

2009-08-23 Thread Stephen Rose
Sorry, not especially.  I've just read that it has a hard time getting 
through the digestive system.


Steve


Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
Do you have any info on Serrapeptase Steve?  I have been taking this but 
recently read that one should only take 20,000 active units of this 
because the effects are as yet unchartered.  Can't remember what expert 
it was who said this though.  It was on one of the hundreds of web sites 
I trawl.  dee



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Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

2009-08-23 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Do you have any info on Serrapeptase Steve?  I have been taking this  
but recently read that one should only take 20,000 active units of  
this because the effects are as yet unchartered.  Can't remember what  
expert it was who said this though.  It was on one of the hundreds of  
web sites I trawl.  dee


On 23 Aug 2009, at 07:42, Stephen Rose wrote:


I'm beginning to think that serrapeptase might benefit from this.

Steve






Re: CS>Re: Liposomal Encapsulation

2009-08-22 Thread Stephen Rose

I'm beginning to think that serrapeptase might benefit from this.

Steve


cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

How fortuitous is Brooke's DIY encapsulation project!

I subscribe to Dr Whitakers newsletter and the latest issue talks
about a new delivery system for curcumin.
I wouldn't have any idea of what it was except for our recent
discussion on this list.
Here is part of it lifted by Omnipage:

"Delivery System Makes a Difference

I've recommended curcumin and turmeric to my patients and subscribers
for years and have regularly taken supplemental curcumin myself.
There's only one problem—curcumin is notoriously poorly absorbed.
That's why many supplements also contain
quercetin and/or piperine, herbal extracts that enhance its
bioavailability.
The new form of curcumin that I've been using, called Meriva, employs
a special delivery system to ensure optimal bioavailability. Meriva is
a phytosome complex, which means-that the active ingredient is bound
to phosphatidylcholine in order to make it easier for your body to
absorb. This gives you a lot more bang for your buck. Studies have
demonstrated that just 450 mg of Meriva is equivalent to 4 g of
regular curcumin in terms of increasing blood levels."
Page 6  Vol. 19, No. 9

Looks like we are in on the ground floor of a new health revolution!

Chuck

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