Re: CS>Water and Salt Confusion
I am the same Sol, I actually don't drink that much, *or* pee that much but I do suffer from constipation, which is, I think, my only ill, I am happy to say. Even when I was drinking gallons of water (Weightwatchers regimen) it made no difference to this. I have enjoyed this debate though because I do like to get all aspects of a subject objectively, and then one can make an informed choice I feel. Dee ---Original Message--- From: sol Date: 09/05/2008 19:40:19 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Water and Salt Confusion I honestly think the coffee, tea, soda dehydrating thing is a myth. I believe we retain a lot more of the water in those drinks than is peed out from the diuretic effects. It would be an interesting experiment to drink an amount of one of those, and measure urine output for (?) some time afterwards. You'd have to know how long the diuretic effect lasts to make it an accurate experiment though. But I honestly can't tell any significant difference in urinary urging or output whether I drink 16 oz water, 16 oz decaf, or 16 oz cola. With me it is liquid in, liquid out, no matter what the source of the liquid. My personal experience may not be valid to a normal person though, because I am a salt waster, and cannot hold onto either water or salt. sol
Re: CS>Water and Salt Confusion
When I had my dental revision done a couple of years back, I attended a week's worth of live and video presentations by Dr. Huggins and some of his staff. One thing I remember him saying is that the level of mercury in seawater is going up gradually, year by year. If I recall right, the figure he quoted was 3% per year. IF 3% is correct, that works out to a 50% increase in mercury over about a dozen years. I've tried to Google some numbers for verification, but so far all I've got is reports of maybe about .3 ppm sometime in the 1970's or 80's and nothing recent... What he cited as the cause of this is thousands of tons of mercury used as ballast in naval vessels which were sunk during the world wars. Even containers which were not damaged upon sinking are now slowly leaching their contents into the sea. At least the ancient salt deposits that are the source of Real Salt or Himalayan, won't suffer that man-made contamination. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Water and Salt Confusion
I see, I wasn't thinking of massive amounts of anything, just my own normal morning coffee, sometimes a couple glasses of iced tea (all decaf) and a rare glass of cola. I don't think NORMAL amounts are a problem, but is coffee was your major fluid intake, that could well be different. sol Gayla Roberts wrote: It might have to do with the dehydration of the individual cells. I don't know. When I was drinking massive amounts of coffee on long work shifts my lips would get chapped from dehydration. That is the only time in my life I had chapped lips. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Water and Salt Confusion
It might have to do with the dehydration of the individual cells. I don't know. When I was drinking massive amounts of coffee on long work shifts my lips would get chapped from dehydration. That is the only time in my life I had chapped lips. Gayla Roberts Always Enough Ranch Acampo, California aera...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: "sol" To: Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:39 AM Subject: Re: CS>Water and Salt Confusion I honestly think the coffee, tea, soda dehydrating thing is a myth. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Water and Salt Confusion
I honestly think the coffee, tea, soda dehydrating thing is a myth. I believe we retain a lot more of the water in those drinks than is peed out from the diuretic effects. It would be an interesting experiment to drink an amount of one of those, and measure urine output for (?) some time afterwards. You'd have to know how long the diuretic effect lasts to make it an accurate experiment though. But I honestly can't tell any significant difference in urinary urging or output whether I drink 16 oz water, 16 oz decaf, or 16 oz cola. With me it is liquid in, liquid out, no matter what the source of the liquid. My personal experience may not be valid to a normal person though, because I am a salt waster, and cannot hold onto either water or salt. sol Gayla Roberts wrote: /I used to have a post on the need for water. Most of the afternoon fatigue people feel is mild dehydration. Many times you will mistake thirst for hunger. You want "something" - what is it> You eat./ /You are thirsty and you drink a soda. That dehydrates you even more. Or coffee - a huge dehydrator./ /Off my soapbox./ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Water and Salt Confusion
Faith Gagne wrote: People can go to the doctor feeling ill, tired, and just plain sick only to discover that they were dehydrated! They were thirsty and didn't know it. My mother, when she got to where walking was a big effort, would not drink adequately because getting up and going to the bathroom was so difficult. Thus she was always dehydrated to some extent, and she actually ended up in the ER extremely ill. Two of those times resulted in hospitilazations, one for 11 days. While we don't want to drink so much water as to flush out all water soluble vitamins, dehydration can be very serious, particularly for anyone debilitated in other ways. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Water and Salt Confusion
I used to have a post on the need for water. Most of the afternoon fatigue people feel is mild dehydration. Many times you will mistake thirst for hunger. You want "something" - what is it> You eat. You are thirsty and you drink a soda. That dehydrates you even more. Or coffee - a huge dehydrator. Off my soapbox. Gayla Roberts Always Enough Ranch Acampo, California aera...@gmail.com
Re: CS>Water and Salt Confusion
How does one overload the kidneys? The kidney processes water and empties it
out constantly. Drink and pee. People can go to the doctor feeling ill,
tired, and just plain sick only to discover that they were dehydrated! They
were thirsty and didn't know it. You don't have to feel parched to need water.
Drinking water helps tremendously to wash out those pesky flu bugs in your
system when you get the flu, etc.. But hey, if you don't want to drink water
then don't drink water. The end.. Faith G.
- Original Message -
From: Dee
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Water and Salt Confusion
I think this has to be obvious, but I also think that if more water is
needed this is the reason we feel thirsty. If you don't feel thirsty then I
wouldn't have thought it would be necessary to drink; the same as if you are
not hungry, then you don't (or shouldn't), eat. Isn't there something about
overloading kidneys if you drink too much? Dee
---Original Message---
From: Faith Gagne
Date: 09/05/2008 13:39:45
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Water and Salt Confusion
Your body needs water for everything it does 24 hours a day. Your body
needs water to function at all. Your body even needs water to breathe. Try
fogging up a mirror with no water in your system. Faith G.
Re: CS>Water and Salt Confusion
I think this has to be obvious, but I also think that if more water is needed this is the reason we feel thirsty. If you don't feel thirsty then I wouldn't have thought it would be necessary to drink; the same as if you are not hungry, then you don't (or shouldn't), eat. Isn't there something about overloading kidneys if you drink too much? Dee ---Original Message--- From: Faith Gagne Date: 09/05/2008 13:39:45 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Water and Salt Confusion Your body needs water for everything it does 24 hours a day. Your body needs water to function at all. Your body even needs water to breathe. Try fogging up a mirror with no water in your system. Faith G.
Re: CS>Water and Salt Confusion
Your body needs water for everything it does 24 hours a day. Your body needs water to function at all. Your body even needs water to breathe. Try fogging up a mirror with no water in your system. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 7:47 AM Subject: Re: CS>Water and Salt Confusion Your probably right Wayne. I only drink a pint or so and seem to be ok on that, but then, I don't do an awful lot of exercise either. Again, horses for courses. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Wayne Fugitt Date: 08/05/2008 20:21:11 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Water and Salt Confusion Evening Dee, >> At 10:10 AM 5/8/2008, you wrote: Well, I read that over eight glasses is too much (I think) I seem to remember this because this is the amount most seem to recommend. Trouble is, I read so many things, that unless I am looking into that particular thing at the time, I just remember snippets. Even if you remember all of it, confusion still exists. Many reasons exist for the confusion. The mainstream, and these doctors say one thing and alternative people say another. Many different numbers exist for the MDR or RDA.
Re: CS>Water and Salt Confusion
Your probably right Wayne. I only drink a pint or so and seem to be ok on that, but then, I don't do an awful lot of exercise either. Again, horses for courses. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Wayne Fugitt Date: 08/05/2008 20:21:11 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Water and Salt Confusion Evening Dee, >> At 10:10 AM 5/8/2008, you wrote: Well, I read that over eight glasses is too much (I think) I seem to remember this because this is the amount most seem to recommend. Trouble is I read so many things, that unless I am looking into that particular thing at the time, I just remember snippets. Even if you remember all of it, confusion still exists. Many reasons exist for the confusion. The mainstream, and these doctors say one thing and alternative people say another. Many different numbers exist for the MDR or RDA.
