RE: CS>purest ever cont'd. experiment

[Ivan Anderson]

Ole Bob wrote, in part:

> For example those that use a pwt to measure conductance and
> convert that to
> PPM with a factor will have a REALproblem with my latest
> work. Normally the
> PWT reading is divided by somethine like 1.8 to get a relative PPM.
>
> MY newest process makes a CS that has a conductance reading
> (PWT to most of
> you) 12 for a real PPM of 12 
> And in some cases the conductance is less than the actual
> measured Ag+ ppm.,
> and it is all nanometer stuff!!!
>
> Those that have the Wplot32.exe can request the data plots,
> if someone wants
> to see and requests Wplot32.exe I will send it as it takes 380 kB.
>
> 'Ole Bob" and no Bull about it.

I thought the accepted conversion factor was about 1.15 or dividing by
about 0.85... you can't very well have less silver in the solution
than the ions measured by conductance, as there will always be some
unmeasured elemental particles there also, generally in the range of
5%- 20%

I am interested that you note that the conductance reading can be less
than the actual ionic concentration. What method was used to determine
the Ag+ concentration?

Ivan


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Re: CS>purest ever cont'd. experiment

[Robert Berger]

Well Harvey,

I have spent thousands of hours and dollars researching the making of
Isolated Silver Solution. I beleive that I have more data than anyone in the
whole wide world. I have run dozens of protocols  at least 10 different
voltages and have data plotted the "whole mess." I have yet in six years
seen anyone post a graph of the process. I even have a web site so people
can see what is possible. Unfortuinately it is not complete as I have
several other protocols that are not on there that make nanometer size
material. I don't know what to call it. It meassures like ions on my
spectrophotometer but looks like fine sand on a TEM.

I repeat I SELL NO PRODUCTS, I have no ax to grind or as Ivan said a barrow
to push. What I have is free to anyone if they will just ask.

For example those that use a pwt to measure conductance and convert that to
PPM with a factor will have a REALproblem with my latest work. Normally the
PWT reading is divided by somethine like 1.8 to get a relative PPM.

MY newest process makes a CS that has a conductance reading (PWT to most of
you) 12 for a real PPM of 12 
And in some cases the conductance is less than the actual measured Ag+ ppm.,
and it is all nanometer stuff!!!

Those that have the Wplot32.exe can request the data plots, if someone wants
to see and requests Wplot32.exe I will send it as it takes 380 kB.

'Ole Bob" and no Bull about it.




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Re: CS>purest ever cont'd. experiment

[Harvey Norris]

 
> > if anyone has any info that will help me on my
> quest to find the
> > perfect CS. be sure to fill me in.  thanx.  
Temperature is quite a invariant. the higher the temp
the better the forming of silver colloids. or so they
say. I take the advise of resident experts, and long
brew at low voltage seems fine. Experience teaches all
folks. Look at the water and what they call
aglomeration. Do you want a batch at two hours from 3
batteries in series ?  fine,,, but if you want a
better thing ,current limiting seems the route to go.
Ole Bob has recomended using 1.2 ma for long time
periods, and it seems to me to produce a good product.
I always use a funnel and coffee filter afterwards,
but the product made by higher current seems to
remarkably have the quality of what they call
"aglomeration" which means that even after being
strained, the particles wish to come back together,
and then we wonder what good the filter is? Granted
higher ppm is hard to achieve with low current, but if
purity and quality is desired, I would imagine the low
DC current method goes along with the status of this
thread

I make CS on a daily regimen of a 12 oz sample, and
have seen the ins and out of it, the low current
method seems to produce the best product, which is
shown after straining. MY particular product is
current limited by resonance, and I am glad folks on
the list were able to educate me well as to how to
make the best product. Even if they are reticent to
answer questions, they are always there to be bugged
about it. Unfortunately everyone seems to have their
own agenda and everyone might suppose they know the
best method, but perhaps this is only human nature,
self taught and self realized by experience. 
Ching Wa
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Re: CS>purest ever cont'd. experiment

[Tony Moody]

Hi Ingrid,
DC Direct current is what flows from a battery, sort of like a steady, 
constant stream of water from a hose.
AC Altenating current is what emerges from the house wiring and is more like 
water from a piston pump. There is a steady but pulsing nature to it. You 
might notice things like fluorescent lamps humming caused by ac.


Current flows, and is measured in amperes, (amps) Sort of like buckets per 
minute


Voltage exists, and is analagous to pressure, which has the potential to push.

There is a relationship between ac volts and dc volts and it is how they 
relate to each other in terms of effective 'pressure'. An ac voltmeter 
measures the peak to peak voltage and automatically multiplies the answer by 
0.707 to display the equivalent dc voltage.
Your house power of 110 volts ac has a peak to peak of about 155v but is 
equivalent to battery voltage of 110v dc

OK.
Tony





INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET wrote:
 
 


just for the record: this whole theory is JUST a theory

but maybe it could be onto something. cross your fingers. perfect CS
here I come!

just a note to add to my theory... the rain forest story I forgot to
put down that I want to experiment ,in the later experiments when I
have the "proper" equipment, to maintain a mean temp. of a rain
forest of the Egyptian time frame IF the during the time frame of
the Egyptian CS it was STILL a rain forest. and not a desert all
ready, theoretically. or vice versa.

I will use both temperatures. a desert temp and a rainforest and
just because it seems like a good idea an average temperature of the
two. then i will also make CS at the temp. of 33 degrees Fahrenheit
because as my research began waters most powerful "life
force/energy" is just before freezing, hence 33 degrees. then I will
do a mean temp of the three temperatures. because it just sounds
like a good idea.  


 in my CS generator I plan to use only 1 9 volt battery hooked up
to two . silver electrodes in about 8 oz of high quality H2O
 possibly found. (distilled) if i could make my own
water it would be even better but i can't but i have heard that
combining hydrogen and oxygen in a container than igniting the two
creates water. but that's just here-say.

then when I find out the conversion for AC to DC and vice versa to
use the one with the lowest electrical current that way it has a
lesser if any interaction with any natural magnetic fields created
by gravity and so on and so forth. so that nature can set and find
its own course for it's perfect current to begin the process of
making the perfect silver colloid.

then from these tests I plan to use a mineral water known as miracle
of life which is an ionic mineral. you may remember me asking for
info on ionic minerals. (side note: NONE RECIEVED)

you may ask your self why would a person use an ionic mineral water
to make CS when it has already been strongly suggested to use
de-mineralized water or distilled water. well lets face us humans
aren't perfect we make mistakes and we're wrong sometimes.
plus going with the possibility that the desert was never a
rainforest but a mere desert the whole time I know from the history
books assuming there correct that the Nile was a source of water
also after every flood left very very very fertile soil = high in
minerals. so if that's the water type they had then I want it!!

i would like to do all of the temp.'s in ionic mineral water but at
$1.20 an OZ I have neither the money nor the proper  instruments to
conduct such an experiment.

so far that is pretty much the just of it. if any one wants to
conduct these experiments on there own along side of me. feel free.
should you happen to make a major break through and make hundreds,
thousands, millions, billions, etc. of dollars remember to fill my
bank account with some of the profit.

if anyone has any info that will help me on my quest to find the
perfect CS. be sure to fill me in.  thanx.  

 

 





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Re: CS>purest ever cont'd. experiment

[INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET]

just for the record: this whole theory is JUST a theory
but maybe it could be onto something. cross your fingers. perfect CS here I 
come!
just a note to add to my theory... the rain forest story I forgot to put down 
that I want to experiment ,in the later experiments when I have the "proper" 
equipment, to maintain a mean temp. of a rain forest of the Egyptian time frame 
IF the during the time frame of the Egyptian CS it was STILL a rain forest. and 
not a desert all ready, theoretically. or vice versa.
I will use both temperatures. a desert temp and a rainforest and just because 
it seems like a good idea an average temperature of the two. then i will also 
make CS at the temp. of 33 degrees Fahrenheit because as my research began 
waters most powerful "life force/energy" is just before freezing, hence 33 
degrees. then I will do a mean temp of the three temperatures. because it just 
sounds like a good idea.   
 in my CS generator I plan to use only 1 9 volt battery hooked up to two . 
silver electrodes in about 8 oz of high quality H2O possibly found. (distilled) 
if i could make my own water it would be even better but i can't but i have 
heard that combining hydrogen and oxygen in a container than igniting the two 
creates water. but that's just here-say.  
then when I find out the conversion for AC to DC and vice versa to use the one 
with the lowest electrical current that way it has a lesser if any interaction 
with any natural magnetic fields created by gravity and so on and so forth. so 
that nature can set and find its own course for it's perfect current to begin 
the process of making the perfect silver colloid.
then from these tests I plan to use a mineral water known as miracle of life 
which is an ionic mineral. you may remember me asking for info on ionic 
minerals. (side note: NONE RECIEVED)  
you may ask your self why would a person use an ionic mineral water to make CS 
when it has already been strongly suggested to use de-mineralized water or 
distilled water. well lets face us humans aren't perfect we make mistakes and 
we're wrong sometimes. plus going with the possibility that the desert was 
never a rainforest but a mere desert the whole time I know from the history 
books assuming there correct that the Nile was a source of water also after 
every flood left very very very fertile soil = high in minerals. so if that's 
the water type they had then I want it!!  
i would like to do all of the temp.'s in ionic mineral water but at $1.20 an OZ 
I have neither the money nor the proper  instruments to conduct such an 
experiment.  
so far that is pretty much the just of it. if any one wants to conduct these 
experiments on there own along side of me. feel free. should you happen to make 
a major break through and make hundreds, thousands, millions, billions, etc. of 
dollars remember to fill my bank account with some of the profit.  
if anyone has any info that will help me on my quest to find the perfect CS. be 
sure to fill me in.  thanx.