Re: [SLUG] Re: Launching X apps from procmail

2000-10-10 Thread James Wilkinson

On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Jeff Waugh generated:

>What's the easiest way to remove compiled software (other than sifting
>through the executables and mish-mash)? Some things have make uninstall, but
>not everything.

rm?

Debian has a package called cruft that I'm playing with, it is supposed
to find stuff that the package database doesn't know about.

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[SLUG] Re: Problem with partitioning SCSI drive as ext2

2000-10-10 Thread Angus Lees

\begin{James Wilkinson}
> On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Stephen Graham generated:
> >I am able to partition this drive as a Linux (type 83 in cfdisk) partition,
> >but not as an Linux Extended (ext2 - type 85 in cfdisk) partition.  I want
> >it all in one ext2 partition if possible - the other drives are 34Gb ones
> >divided into ~10Gb partitions.  I used cfdisk for the partitioning of these
> >other drives.
> >
> >Is there any reason why this may not be working for me?
> 
> Because cfdisk is confusing things.
> 
> Type 83 is what you want.  Once you've created the partition with type
> 83, you use mke2fs /dev/whatever to create the ext2 filesystem.

yep, "linux extended" is the old "ext1" format

83 => linux ext2
82 => linux swap

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Re: [SLUG] Re: Launching X apps from procmail

2000-10-10 Thread Jeff Waugh

begin  Angus Lees  quotation:

> \begin{Jeff Waugh}


Gus, have you considered a 12 step program?


> 1. /opt exists on your system. thats sufficient grounds for failure in
>my book.


Fine, fine. I've been meaning to move everything to /usr/local anyway. :P

What's the easiest way to remove compiled software (other than sifting
through the executables and mish-mash)? Some things have make uninstall, but
not everything.

Is there a trick?


> 2. you're probably starting fetchmail in a different way, so $DISPLAY
>isn't set correctly.


Well, even with DISPLAY set in .procmailrc it happens. I'm thinking it might
be a suid problem as James W. mentioned...

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Re: [SLUG] Problem with partitioning SCSI drive as ext2

2000-10-10 Thread James Wilkinson

On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Stephen Graham generated:

>I am able to partition this drive as a Linux (type 83 in cfdisk) partition,
>but not as an Linux Extended (ext2 - type 85 in cfdisk) partition.  I want
>it all in one ext2 partition if possible - the other drives are 34Gb ones
>divided into ~10Gb partitions.  I used cfdisk for the partitioning of these
>other drives.
>
>Is there any reason why this may not be working for me?

Because cfdisk is confusing things.

Type 83 is what you want.  Once you've created the partition with type
83, you use mke2fs /dev/whatever to create the ext2 filesystem.

man mke2fs for more options.

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Re: [SLUG] Launching X apps from procmail

2000-10-10 Thread Andrew Reilly

On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 05:40:49PM +1100, James Wilkinson wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Jeff Waugh generated:
> >Which should work, however, my procmaillog reports that whilst it tried to
> >start, it couldn't open the display. Gar! How does the procmail setup in
> >Debian and Red Hat differ for this to not work?
> 
> Specifically, procmail has the suid bits set.  Even root isn't allowed
> to connect to an X server (at least, in the default Deb setup).  I'm
> guessing that maybe RedHats' procmail switched uid to the user the mail
> is addressed to, but Debians' doesn't.

Root or no, if you're now running X from xdm (as I am) then
there are security issues with cookies and so on that are
non-trivial to get around.  Well, I haven't figured out how to
other than:

rclock is your friend.

Sure, it has a kooky setup, and you need to hack the code to
stop it from putting the time into the X resource name (gack!),
but it has the singuar, huge bennefit of being an X application
that can run arbitrary other X applications as indicated by a
crontab-like control file.

Since procmail itself isn't running as the child of something
that _did_ connect properly to the local X server, its children
just might not be able to connect at all.

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[SLUG] Problem with partitioning SCSI drive as ext2

2000-10-10 Thread Stephen Graham

Hey.

I am adding an additional SCSI drive to a system. The system currently has
two SCSI HDs on its first SCSI bus, and they are formatted into ext2
partitions (and one is the bootable drive w/ the swap space aswell).  This
all works fine.  I am trying to add a third SCSI drive onto the second SCSI
bus, and have it use the ext2 filesystem (like the rest do).
Drive specs: Seagate Barracudea 9.1 Gbyte Ultra SCSI catalog ST39173W/S. -
Purchased 14/4/1998.
The drive was previously running inside an SGI O2 (using the IRIX efs file
system).

I am able to partition this drive as a Linux (type 83 in cfdisk) partition,
but not as an Linux Extended (ext2 - type 85 in cfdisk) partition.  I want
it all in one ext2 partition if possible - the other drives are 34Gb ones
divided into ~10Gb partitions.  I used cfdisk for the partitioning of these
other drives.

Is there any reason why this may not be working for me?  I have not been
able to uncover anything.  Do I need to do a low-level format before I will
be able to do this?  The only reason I want to have it running as an ext2 fs
is that otherwise would require a kernel recompile (The machine is a server
in an academic department and scheduling the time to swap kernals and test
it would be a pain as lots of all day and night type batch jobs are run on
the machine).

Thanks in advance

Stephen

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Re: [SLUG] Launching X apps from procmail

2000-10-10 Thread James Wilkinson

On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Jeff Waugh generated:

>Which should work, however, my procmaillog reports that whilst it tried to
>start, it couldn't open the display. Gar! How does the procmail setup in
>Debian and Red Hat differ for this to not work?

Jeff,

$ ls -l `which procmail`

might raise the cluon flux a tad.

Specifically, procmail has the suid bits set.  Even root isn't allowed
to connect to an X server (at least, in the default Deb setup).  I'm
guessing that maybe RedHats' procmail switched uid to the user the mail
is addressed to, but Debians' doesn't.

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Re: [SLUG] Launching X apps from procmail

2000-10-10 Thread Michael Still

On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Jeff Waugh wrote:

> Which should work, however, my procmaillog reports that whilst it tried to
> start, it couldn't open the display. Gar! How does the procmail setup in
> Debian and Red Hat differ for this to not work?

Perchance you are logged in as a different user and need to execute a
xhost + or somesuch?

Mikal

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[SLUG] Re: Launching X apps from procmail

2000-10-10 Thread Angus Lees

\begin{Jeff Waugh}
> ---
> MESSAGE=/opt/bin/xmessage -file -
> 
> # GROBBLEFRUIT
> :0 Wic
> * ^Subject: grobblefruit
> | $MESSAGE
> ---
> 
> Which should work, however, my procmaillog reports that whilst it tried to
> start, it couldn't open the display. Gar! How does the procmail setup in
> Debian and Red Hat differ for this to not work?

1. /opt exists on your system. thats sufficient grounds for failure in
   my book.

2. you're probably starting fetchmail in a different way, so $DISPLAY
   isn't set correctly.

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[SLUG] ntop or any other

2000-10-10 Thread George Vieira

Hi all,

I've tried playing around with ntop and can't seem to get it doing what I
need and maybe someone can point me in the direct direction and hopefully
not where the sun don't shine hee hee.

My Intel router can display in (close to) realtime the network traffic based
on protocol.. eg.

HTTP 60%
SMTP 10%
FTP  30%
Telnet  - 5% 
POP3- 5%

..Well something like that.

I need to be able to display more protocols which the router doesn't do but
the linux box here is the firewall so it sees all the traffic.

Can someone guide me to what I need?

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[SLUG] Launching X apps from procmail

2000-10-10 Thread Jeff Waugh

Morning all,

Another "but this worked before!" problem that's bugging me...

I used to pipe interesting emails and announcements into xmessage, but since
I moved to Debian, I haven't bothered setting any of that up again. With my
recent email configuration bash, I decided to. Found a problem tho. :(

Relevant bits of ~/.procmailrc:

---
MESSAGE=/opt/bin/xmessage -file -

# GROBBLEFRUIT
:0 Wic
* ^Subject: grobblefruit
| $MESSAGE
---

Which should work, however, my procmaillog reports that whilst it tried to
start, it couldn't open the display. Gar! How does the procmail setup in
Debian and Red Hat differ for this to not work?

- Jeff (who won't be using this for SLUG mailing list bounces... 300
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Re: [SLUG] Is this a routing problem?

2000-10-10 Thread Michael Still

On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Gregg wrote:

> When telnetting to Neuro from Linuxbox I get "No route to host". Ping
> just sits there. However, if I go the other way (telnet (or ping)
> Linuxbox from Neuro), there is no problem at all. After establishing
> this connection once I can then freely telnet from Linuxbox to Neuro.
> /etc/hosts on both machines have listings identifying each computer.
> Another computer (hostname Laptop) has a virtually identical install of
> the same distro (RH6.0) and doesn't have the problem. Any ideas what is
> happening? I'd like to run Neuro without a video screen so telnetting to
> it (without telnetting from it first) would be handy.

Do you have the same subnet mask configured on both machines? Does DHCP
give the correct subnet mask?

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Re: [SLUG] Beginners Home Network

2000-10-10 Thread James Wilkinson

On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Ken Yap generated:

>It's probably that the 100 Mb NICs can't autonegotiate without a hub to
>talk to. You could try specifying the media in the modprobe line, but
>with hubs so cheap, it's not worth spending much time on a crossover.

Cheers, I'll remember that next time.  In this case I jsut got the hub.

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Re: [SLUG] Problem with bash and find.

2000-10-10 Thread Rodos

On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Malcolm Tredinnick wrote:

> The shell is interpreting the final semicolon before the find command has a
> chance to get to it. Instead, use
> 
>   find . -maxdepth 1 -name "2*" -exec ./slideshow {} \;

Doh. I tried that, the trick is the space between the {} and the \;
I must have tried everything appart from the space.

/me sleeks away

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Re: [SLUG] Beginners Home Network

2000-10-10 Thread Michael Lake

Malcolm Tredinnick wrote:
> Yes, that would certainly do the trick. Depending on your budget and future
> plans, you may want to look at getting NICs with BNC connectors on them (as well
> - mostly already have RJ45 holes). Then you can string a bunch of computers
> together without a hub -- you just have a bunch of BNC T-joins which plug the
> stem into the network card and a cable (or a terminator) into each end.

Just price coax cable and the T-connectors - you will find
them quite pricy. I'd put whatever $ you have towards the
hub and not worry about BNC. Many NICs dont have BNCs on
then now anyhow. 
> 
> I used this solution for quite a while until I could afford a hub. Just another
> option. :)

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[SLUG] Icons in WordPerfect

2000-10-10 Thread Terry Collins

Hello Sluggers

Does anyone remember the cause of the awful icons for WordPerfect for
Linux.

I think it is colour depth setting, but not sure.

I could have sworn this was discussed before, but both archives disagree
with me.
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RE: [SLUG] wierd modem/ppp problem

2000-10-10 Thread George Vieira

Have you tried tcpdump... it's one of my favourite tools...

thanks,
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-Original Message-
From: David Kempe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 12:29 PM
To: Slug
Subject: [SLUG] wierd modem/ppp problem


Hey sluggers,

On our office network here, we are having a kinda strange problem.
Whenever we redial, after a few minutes the modem just cuts sick sending
data.
Netstat reveals nothing strange, a few connections to websites, I installed
xifmon and monitored the ppp0 link and its sending data at 100% nearly all
the time.
This naturally causes the internet access we get over this modem to grind to
a halt. How do i tell what is using this bandwidth? I installed ntop and
tried to get it working with many different settings, but it doesn't record
any data. It seems to receive zero packets. Redialing is only a temporary
measure.
The box is also running squid, but I don't think is sending any cache info,
because I can stop squid from running and the modem is still sending data
flat out. There doesn't seem to be any other explanation. The logs aren't
showing anything at all, most services are only listening on the internal
interface, ftp is completely disabled, ps aux doesn't show anything
different. Short of this box being owned (!) I can't figure it out at all.

dave

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[SLUG] wierd modem/ppp problem

2000-10-10 Thread David Kempe

Hey sluggers,

On our office network here, we are having a kinda strange problem.
Whenever we redial, after a few minutes the modem just cuts sick sending
data.
Netstat reveals nothing strange, a few connections to websites, I installed
xifmon and monitored the ppp0 link and its sending data at 100% nearly all
the time.
This naturally causes the internet access we get over this modem to grind to
a halt. How do i tell what is using this bandwidth? I installed ntop and
tried to get it working with many different settings, but it doesn't record
any data. It seems to receive zero packets. Redialing is only a temporary
measure.
The box is also running squid, but I don't think is sending any cache info,
because I can stop squid from running and the modem is still sending data
flat out. There doesn't seem to be any other explanation. The logs aren't
showing anything at all, most services are only listening on the internal
interface, ftp is completely disabled, ps aux doesn't show anything
different. Short of this box being owned (!) I can't figure it out at all.

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[SLUG] apache virtual hosting with Jserv

2000-10-10 Thread Matthew Taylor

I'm sooo close to getting this to work it hurts

currently running apache1.3.12, jserv 112 on win32 - NT (prefer to run on 
*nix, office politics... :(  )

have apache/jserv running as a standalone no problem.

managed to get virtual host working ok with apache only, no problem.

What I want to achieve is environments for  development/Quality 
Assurance/Production running with the same servlet zone name so that 
migration between each environment will not require renaming of addresses to 
call servlets.

I have been using (among others) the java FAQ entry "I'm hoping to use the 
same zone name (but as separate zones) for two domains on the same machine."

Did the first 1/2, editing/configuring httpd.conf, jserv.conf, 
jserv.properties and creating new servlet-zone.properties for each of the 
environments.

up to this.
XXXx
in your domain1.properties:
repositories=/path/to/directory/with/servlets/class/files/domain1
in your domain2.properties:
repositories=/path/to/directory/with/servlets/class/files/domain2
X

and got the message "Invalid command ApJservMount, perhaps mispelled or 
defined by a module not included in the server configuration.

looking at the howto again I'm not sure of this, I'm using name based 
virtual hosting, ie
XX

ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DocumentRoot "c:/nexusdraft2/apache/DevelNexus/htdocs"
ServerName Develnexus.optus.com.au
ErrorLog logs/DevelNexus.log
CustomLog logs/DevelNexusaccess.log common
ApJServMount /servlets /Develnexus
ApJServMount /servlet /Develnexus

XXX

the howto says 

Define a different servlet zone for each domain.

   
   
   ApJServDefaultPort 8007
   ApJServAction .gsp /servlets/gsp
   ApJServMount /servlets /domain1
   /IfModule
   /VirtualHost

   
   
   ApJServDefaultPort 8007
   ApJServAction .gsp /servlets/gsp
   ApJServMount /servlets /domain2
   /IfModule
   /VirtualHost
XXx


not sure if I have read it right, is the second 1/2 meant to go into the 
httpd.conf?? anyone able to point me to a working copy of configuration 
files??

many thanks.

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RE: [SLUG] Is this a routing problem?

2000-10-10 Thread George Vieira

Can you supply us with (just to be safe) both machines "ifconfig" and
"netstat -rn" tables?

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-Original Message-
From: Gregg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 9:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SLUG] Is this a routing problem?


Dear all,

Just when I thought I was finally getting my tiny little mind around
this stuff...

I've setup an old 486 DX2/66 to do some as-yet-undefined task on my home
network. It's hostname is Neuro. It happily gets its IP address at boot
time using DHCP from the existing server (hostname Linuxbox). To
simplify matters, Linuxbox gives Neuro the same IP address every time.

When telnetting to Neuro from Linuxbox I get "No route to host". Ping
just sits there. However, if I go the other way (telnet (or ping)
Linuxbox from Neuro), there is no problem at all. After establishing
this connection once I can then freely telnet from Linuxbox to Neuro.
/etc/hosts on both machines have listings identifying each computer.
Another computer (hostname Laptop) has a virtually identical install of
the same distro (RH6.0) and doesn't have the problem. Any ideas what is
happening? I'd like to run Neuro without a video screen so telnetting to
it (without telnetting from it first) would be handy.

Also (while I'm at it), how do I find out the volume name of a CD-ROM
disk (or any disk for that matter?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [SLUG] Problem with bash and find.

2000-10-10 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick

On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 08:05:13AM +1100, Rodos wrote:
> Problem is that find is not understanding the -exec, I assume it has
> something to do with escaping but no matter what I try it just keeps
> failing.
> 
> find . -maxdepth 1 -name "2*" -exec ./slideshow {};
> find: missing argument to `-exec' 
> 
> Any ideas what I am missing or how to escape it?

The shell is interpreting the final semicolon before the find command has a
chance to get to it. Instead, use

find . -maxdepth 1 -name "2*" -exec ./slideshow {} \;

(i.e. escape the semicolon from the shell).

Cheers,
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Re: [SLUG] Is this a routing problem?

2000-10-10 Thread tom burkart

On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Gregg wrote:

> When telnetting to Neuro from Linuxbox I get "No route to host". Ping
> just sits there. However, if I go the other way (telnet (or ping)
> Linuxbox from Neuro), there is no problem at all. After establishing
> this connection once I can then freely telnet from Linuxbox to Neuro.
> /etc/hosts on both machines have listings identifying each computer.
> Another computer (hostname Laptop) has a virtually identical install of
> the same distro (RH6.0) and doesn't have the problem. Any ideas what is
> happening? I'd like to run Neuro without a video screen so telnetting to
> it (without telnetting from it first) would be handy.
What are the gateway settings on Neuro? Linuxbox?
Neuro should not have a default gateway setting as it gets it via
dhcp.  This of course assumes that dhcpd sends the correct ones (which it
appears to because Laptop works).

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[SLUG] Problem with bash and find.

2000-10-10 Thread Rodos

I think I am having a brain fade today. 

I am trying to get bach to execute a command for each directory in the
current one (they each start with a 2).

Problem is that find is not understanding the -exec, I assume it has
something to do with escaping but no matter what I try it just keeps
failing.

find . -maxdepth 1 -name "2*" -exec ./slideshow {};
find: missing argument to `-exec' 

Any ideas what I am missing or how to escape it?

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[SLUG] Is this a routing problem?

2000-10-10 Thread Gregg

Dear all,

Just when I thought I was finally getting my tiny little mind around
this stuff...

I've setup an old 486 DX2/66 to do some as-yet-undefined task on my home
network. It's hostname is Neuro. It happily gets its IP address at boot
time using DHCP from the existing server (hostname Linuxbox). To
simplify matters, Linuxbox gives Neuro the same IP address every time.

When telnetting to Neuro from Linuxbox I get "No route to host". Ping
just sits there. However, if I go the other way (telnet (or ping)
Linuxbox from Neuro), there is no problem at all. After establishing
this connection once I can then freely telnet from Linuxbox to Neuro.
/etc/hosts on both machines have listings identifying each computer.
Another computer (hostname Laptop) has a virtually identical install of
the same distro (RH6.0) and doesn't have the problem. Any ideas what is
happening? I'd like to run Neuro without a video screen so telnetting to
it (without telnetting from it first) would be handy.

Also (while I'm at it), how do I find out the volume name of a CD-ROM
disk (or any disk for that matter?

Thanks in advance.

Gregg


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Re: [SLUG] Starting samba automagically

2000-10-10 Thread tom burkart

On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Alister Waller wrote:

> I am trying to start samba up when the server boots.
> I put
> /usr/sbin/smbd -D
> /usr/sbin/nmbd -D
> in /etc/rc.d/init.d/network
> This does not seem to do it though. Users cannot access the share although I
> could as adm
I suspect you have got it in the wrong part of the network startup
script.  I have attached the standard startup script that comes with
several distributions.  Put it in /etc/rc.d/init.d and then run (as root):
chkconfig smb on
(it lives in /sbin if your path is not finding it).
This should fix your problem.

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#!/bin/sh
#
# chkconfig: 345 91 35
# description: Starts and stops the Samba smbd and nmbd daemons \
#  used to provide SMB network services.

# Source function library.
. /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions

# Source networking configuration.
. /etc/sysconfig/network

# Check that networking is up.
[ ${NETWORKING} = "no" ] && exit 0

# Check that smb.conf exists.
[ -f /etc/smb.conf ] || exit 0

# See how we were called.
case "$1" in
  start)
echo -n "Starting SMB services: "
daemon smbd -D  
daemon nmbd -D 
echo
touch /var/lock/subsys/smb
;;
  stop)
echo -n "Shutting down SMB services: "
killproc smbd
killproc nmbd
rm -f /var/lock/subsys/smb
echo ""
;;
  status)
status smbd
status nmbd
;;
  restart)
echo -n "Restarting SMB services: "
$0 stop
$0 start
echo "done."
;;
  *)
echo "Usage: smb {start|stop|restart|status}"
exit 1
esac




Re: [SLUG] Beginners Home Network

2000-10-10 Thread tom burkart

On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Ken Yap wrote:

> It's probably that the 100 Mb NICs can't autonegotiate without a hub to
> talk to. You could try specifying the media in the modprobe line, but
> with hubs so cheap, it's not worth spending much time on a crossover.
I'm running 100Mb Intel NIC's and they will operate at 100MHz FDX on a
crossover cable.  Similarly, when I had one Acer el cheapo card (Via Rhine
chipset) - it would talk at 100MHz with the Intel card...

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[SLUG] Starting samba automagically

2000-10-10 Thread Alister Waller


Hi,

I am trying to start samba up when the server boots.
I put
/usr/sbin/smbd -D
/usr/sbin/nmbd -D
in /etc/rc.d/init.d/network

This does not seem to do it though. Users cannot access the share although I
could as adm
If I then use SWAT to restart the service it works fine.

what am I doing wrong


Alister


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RE: [SLUG] Beginners Home Network

2000-10-10 Thread George Vieira

The reason why there are problems like the 3Com90x-tx to a NE2K is usually
due to the 3com card in "auto detect" mode where it should be manually set
to half duplex and 10Mbit ethernet.

I can't guarentee this is the fault but I've seen these cards play up even
on a normal switch and had to be set to manual and all was OK.
I think they're trying to detect the network it's on and can't.

thanks,
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-Original Message-
From: chesty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 9:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Beginners Home Network


On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 04:15:11AM +1100, James Wilkinson wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Heracles generated:
> 
> >Depends entirely upon what you want to do. If you are only
> >networking two machines together then use a crossover cable
> 
> I just want to make a point that not all NICs like crossovers, 

I've heard of problems where two nics connected together wouldn't
work, manually setting the speed, etc, fixed the problem. Perhaps
they were both trying to auto negotiate, or they were both trying to 
sense a signal on the wire before sending one...

"People are making PCI ne2000 clones! Oh the horror, the horror..."
(from the kernel source :)

I'm using an ISA ne2000's and a PCI ne2000 clone at home and
they work, thats all I care about for home use.

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Re: [SLUG] Beginners Home Network

2000-10-10 Thread chesty

On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 04:15:11AM +1100, James Wilkinson wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Heracles generated:
> 
> >Depends entirely upon what you want to do. If you are only
> >networking two machines together then use a crossover cable
> 
> I just want to make a point that not all NICs like crossovers, 

I've heard of problems where two nics connected together wouldn't
work, manually setting the speed, etc, fixed the problem. Perhaps
they were both trying to auto negotiate, or they were both trying to 
sense a signal on the wire before sending one...

"People are making PCI ne2000 clones! Oh the horror, the horror..."
(from the kernel source :)

I'm using an ISA ne2000's and a PCI ne2000 clone at home and
they work, thats all I care about for home use.

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Re: [SLUG] Beginners Home Network

2000-10-10 Thread Ken Yap

>I just want to make a point that not all NICs like crossovers, what with
>them being non-standard and all.  I've got a 3Com 905C-tx that doesn't
>like talking thru a crossover to ISA ne2k's.  I think it's probably a
>manufacturer thing, but I couldn't get a link thru it.  This is with 2
>crossovers, aquired from different locations.  Come to think of it, it's
>probably the ne2k's that are old enough to have kids who don't do the
>crossover thing.

It's probably that the 100 Mb NICs can't autonegotiate without a hub to
talk to. You could try specifying the media in the modprobe line, but
with hubs so cheap, it's not worth spending much time on a crossover.


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Re: [SLUG] Irix media

2000-10-10 Thread Mark Pearson

You should be able to install linux without any need for IRIX.  Check out
http://oss.sgi.com/mips The archives of the mailing lists have quite a few
hints about installation.
Also have a look at http://foobazco.org/~wesolows/Install-HOWTO.html,  which
is an install howto from a linux server using bootp/nfs. I got the linux
server side working when I upgraded IRIX 5.3 to 6.2 without an SGI cdrom
drive, and plan to put linux on my IRIS INDIGO when I have time.


> I've just tried setting up linux on my old SGI indy. Unfortunately in the
> process I've managed to stuff up somewhat badly my existing irix partition.
> To compound the matter, the current version of linux for sgi needs irix to
> bootstrap the set up. To compound the matter further, I have misplaced my
> irix 5.3 CDs. I've called SGI but they want $192.50 to replace them. This
> seems somewhat steep so I thought I would ask the all knowing population of
> SLUG if they can recommend a cheaper source for the replacement media.

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[SLUG] Exciting challenging role

2000-10-10 Thread Paris Paraskevopoulos

The Committee is seeking highly motivated individual(s) who love to be
challenged to volunteer to organise the Network/Security fest to be held

November 21st.

You will need to organise the format/structure, find speakers, send
annoucments, get sponsors if appropriate etc. The committee will be
providing assitance with advertising the event on the Web, room
arrangements, we may have some speakers already. I can provide details
of last years Network fest structure and topics.

Please reply to me for more details.

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Re: [SLUG] Beginners Home Network

2000-10-10 Thread michaelf

I have some of those $55 PCI netgear 10/100 cards. Not had a problem with them 
since they have been installed. I run 2 of them in my gw.

Quoting Ken Yap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> >redhat linux's kudzu hardware detecting tool. ISA cards dont. Also the
> pci
> >ne2000's are usually < $20.
> 
> For about $20-$25 you can get Skymasters which are Tulip clones and far
> better hardware designs than the awful old NE2K. The NE2K PCI is the
> main PCI NIC that is not busmastering.
> 
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Re: [SLUG] TR-3 tape and Samba Permissions Q's

2000-10-10 Thread James Wilkinson

On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Alister Waller generated:

>I have an Exabyte Eagle TR-3 tape drive. How can I tell what device Redhat
>Linux has assigned to this device???

IDE or SCSI?

cd /proc/ide or /proc/scsi and poke around, look at files named 'media'.

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Re: [SLUG] Beginners Home Network

2000-10-10 Thread James Wilkinson

On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Heracles generated:

>Depends entirely upon what you want to do. If you are only
>networking two machines together then use a crossover cable

I just want to make a point that not all NICs like crossovers, what with
them being non-standard and all.  I've got a 3Com 905C-tx that doesn't
like talking thru a crossover to ISA ne2k's.  I think it's probably a
manufacturer thing, but I couldn't get a link thru it.  This is with 2
crossovers, aquired from different locations.  Come to think of it, it's
probably the ne2k's that are old enough to have kids who don't do the
crossover thing.

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Re: [SLUG] TR-3 tape and Samba Permissions Q's

2000-10-10 Thread tom burkart

On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Alister Waller wrote:

> I have samba shares set up but when a user creates a directory or file on
> the server from their windows machines the permissions are set as per the
> user so no one else can access them. How do I make the permissions open so
> all can access when a file or directory is created?? or am I missing
you need to use the "force user" and/or "force group" directives for that
share.  I would recommend creating a "dummy" user that is disabled and
using these uid/gid values in the "force *" directives.

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Re: [SLUG] Beginners Home Network

2000-10-10 Thread Ken Yap

>redhat linux's kudzu hardware detecting tool. ISA cards dont. Also the pci
>ne2000's are usually < $20.

For about $20-$25 you can get Skymasters which are Tulip clones and far
better hardware designs than the awful old NE2K. The NE2K PCI is the
main PCI NIC that is not busmastering.


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Re: [SLUG] TR-3 tape and Samba Permissions Q's

2000-10-10 Thread Thom May

At some point around Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 09:22:01 +1000, Alister Waller said:
> Hi,
> 
> I have an Exabyte Eagle TR-3 tape drive. How can I tell what device Redhat
> Linux has assigned to this device???
> Anyone used one of these tape drives?
No idea about this one...
> 
> 
> also
> 
> I have samba shares set up but when a user creates a directory or file on
> the server from their windows machines the permissions are set as per the
> user so no one else can access them. How do I make the permissions open so
> all can access when a file or directory is created?? or am I missing
> something ?

The way we do it here - assuming you aren't using your samba
server as a PDC, in which case I guess you would end up having
to do it differently - is to use the:
force group =  share-level option,
then add all your users to that group, and make the share group
write/readable...

This should solve that one
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[SLUG] TR-3 tape and Samba Permissions Q's

2000-10-10 Thread Alister Waller

Hi,

I have an Exabyte Eagle TR-3 tape drive. How can I tell what device Redhat
Linux has assigned to this device???
Anyone used one of these tape drives?


also

I have samba shares set up but when a user creates a directory or file on
the server from their windows machines the permissions are set as per the
user so no one else can access them. How do I make the permissions open so
all can access when a file or directory is created?? or am I missing
something ?

regards

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Re: [SLUG] Beginners Home Network

2000-10-10 Thread Heracles

Richard Blackburn wrote:
> 
> Thanks to George Viera for the offer of advice for a basic home network.
> Well where do we start? Someone just gave me an old 586 box. So what do
> I get next?
> 2 NIC cards, some cables and hub?
> I'd like to try to document this setup for others further down the line.
> Richard

Depends entirely upon what you want to do. If you are only
networking two machines together then use a crossover cable (~$15
for a 5 metre cable) and two NICs at about $25 each for PCI types.
If you want a larger network you will need a hub. Make sure you
have enough RAM in the 586 - say 64Mb. Other than that, follow the
advice in any of the HOW-TOs that apply and the NAG is a fun read
also. It is really easy if you get supported cards - you'll see
once you start the project.

Stay well and happy
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Problem solved! (Was: Re: [SLUG] Driver for D-Link NIC)

2000-10-10 Thread Peter Hardy

On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 12:58:05PM +1100, Adrian van den Dries wrote:
> Wrote John:
> > 
> > The 100M versions of the card need the newer driver which only
> > ships with 2.4. It may ship with some distributions if the distro has
> > specifically compiled the right version in.
> > 
> 
> Perhaps that explains the 'poor' performance of that card. It's a 10/100 but
> I guess it's only being driven at 10Mbps. Is this correct, because as I
> said, I've never had 'trouble'? Peter, is it the standard kernel module that
> isn't recognizing your card? How's your modules.conf?

A standard Debian 2.2 install was failing to recognise the card,
modprobe'ing the driver failed with an error about specifying a base address
and irq.  As I've already said elsewhere, I think it may be a slightly
different revision of the card.

On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 10:40:12AM +1100, John Ferlito wrote:
> Had to do this a while ago. Now from memory do the following 
> Go back to the via-rhine web page and there should be a link to
> pci-scan.[ch] you need these as well then use the following to compile.
These are at http://www.scyld.com/network/updates.html, and you also need to
get the kern_compat.h file.  There's also instructions there to compile the
pci-scan and driver modules.

If anybody's interested I actually just put all the files in my
/usr/src/linux/drivers/net directory, and modified the Makefile there to
make sure pci-scan was being built as a module.  Tried building it into the
kernel following the instructions on the site, but linking failed because of
mismatched symbols in pci-scan.

Thankyou John and Adrian.
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Re: [SLUG] Beginners Home Network

2000-10-10 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick

On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 06:20:50PM +1100, Richard Blackburn wrote:
> Thanks to George Viera for the offer of advice for a basic home network. 
> Well where do we start? Someone just gave me an old 586 box. So what do
> I get next?
> 2 NIC cards, some cables and hub? 

Yes, that would certainly do the trick. Depending on your budget and future
plans, you may want to look at getting NICs with BNC connectors on them (as well
- mostly already have RJ45 holes). Then you can string a bunch of computers
together without a hub -- you just have a bunch of BNC T-joins which plug the
stem into the network card and a cable (or a terminator) into each end.

I used this solution for quite a while until I could afford a hub. Just another
option. :)

> I'd like to try to document this setup for others further down the line.

Good idea!

Cheers,
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Re: [SLUG] Viewing output of mutiple tty's via telnet

2000-10-10 Thread Herbert Xu

Doug Stalker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> We have several unix server here at work run several processes in
> different tty's with different logins. The application output is sent to
> the tty the process is running in. When accessing the systems locally
> it's an easy matter to switch between teh different screens with
> ctl-alt-F*, but is there any equivilent that can be used over telnet?

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Re: [SLUG] Beginners Home Network

2000-10-10 Thread Jason Rennie

> Thanks to George Viera for the offer of advice for a basic home network. 
> Well where do we start? Someone just gave me an old 586 box. So what do
> I get next?
> 2 NIC cards, some cables and hub? 
> I'd like to try to document this setup for others further down the line.

What do you want the network to do ? Play games, 1 machine shares internet
access ? etc ?

Enough nics for the machines is a good start, if you go to the north
rocks markets on a sunday you can pick up cabling, hubs and nic's for a
good price. If you only want 10mb nics make sure to get pci ne2000 clones,
i've never seen one of these that wasn't a realtek card, and they work
really nicely under linux. Of course anything by 3com or intel is probably
good as well, but only get PCI network cards(assuming you have spare pci
slots in the machines). Some people might quibble about this advice, but
trust me, pci network cards get auto detected under windows, and under
redhat linux's kudzu hardware detecting tool. ISA cards dont. Also the pci
ne2000's are usually < $20.

I got an 18 port 10Mb hub at the markets for $50, so have a look
around. There all pretty much the same.

Cable again, look for a good price, its all pretty much the same.

That should get you started.

Get all of the cards installed and configured, and try pinging across the
network.

Jason



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Re: [SLUG] nautilus, libs, debian woes

2000-10-10 Thread Thom May

Have you got the freetype2-dev package installed?
-Thom
At some point around Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 04:27:21 +1100, Jeff Waugh said:
> begin  Adrian van den Dries  quotation:
> 
> > Trying to compile nautilus here (out of cvs) and ./autogen.sh (configure,
> > really) gets as far as testing the freetype2 libs, saying
> > 
> > A few packages depend on this freetype lib, so it looks like there's
> > something awry with the debs here.
> > 
> > Is there a way around this other than to compile it separately?
> 
> 
> More information please. :)
> 
> What have you got installed? freetype2 seems to be the only available
> package for woody (from memory, that's what you've got on your desktop).
> 
> 
> Get it going, and tell me if the speed has picked up any. :)
> 
> - Jeff
> 
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Re: [SLUG] Irix media

2000-10-10 Thread Scott Howard

On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 04:35:44PM +1100, Jill Rowling wrote:
> Sorry to be a pain, but I think you'll find it's $2.50 for the media and
> $190 for the IRIX software license.
> 
> That's probably why SGI are selling systems with Linux instead!
> (I got a similar answer from Sun regarding their OS disks).

Solaris is now free for the license (for up to 8 CPUs), and about US$40
for the Media.

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Re: [SLUG] nautilus, libs, debian woes

2000-10-10 Thread Jeff Waugh

begin  Adrian van den Dries  quotation:

> Trying to compile nautilus here (out of cvs) and ./autogen.sh (configure,
> really) gets as far as testing the freetype2 libs, saying
> 
> A few packages depend on this freetype lib, so it looks like there's
> something awry with the debs here.
> 
> Is there a way around this other than to compile it separately?


More information please. :)

What have you got installed? freetype2 seems to be the only available
package for woody (from memory, that's what you've got on your desktop).


Get it going, and tell me if the speed has picked up any. :)

- Jeff


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[SLUG] Beginners Home Network

2000-10-10 Thread Richard Blackburn

Thanks to George Viera for the offer of advice for a basic home network. 
Well where do we start? Someone just gave me an old 586 box. So what do
I get next?
2 NIC cards, some cables and hub? 
I'd like to try to document this setup for others further down the line.
Richard


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Re: [SLUG] [SLIGHTLY OT] Machine Names

2000-10-10 Thread Jeff Waugh

begin  Dan Treacy  quotation:

> So I'm putting it to the collective brilliance of the slugger fraternity to
> see what is put forth.
> 
> All entries gratefully accepted. :-)


I found out another one from a different business, and I quite like this
one...

Name your machines after events that took place around the time they were
purchased - this opens up your namespace immeasurably, especially
considering that everyone has different perspectives on current events.

Right now, you could call a computer, say... Israel, Olympia, Tatiana (seems
we already have a vote for that one...), Election, um... Yeah.

Better than 1, 2, 3, 4, 5...

- Jeff


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