Re: [SLUG] Installing RH 7.0
Bill Bennett wrote: I'd like to install RH 7.0 on my laptop. The problem is that, at the moment, the laptop is infested with Windows 2000. I'd like to go completely over to Linux (ie, no partitioning. I assume that I should with a clean slate, ie., an empty hard disk, but I'm not sure how this can be done. The booklet accompanying the CDs is silent on the matter. One point on removing partions on Notebooks, be carefull , as most notebooks (well my dell anyway) have a small partition that they use to suspend to disk, you want this feature don't remove this partion, it usually shows up as a HPFS partion. Regards Mehmet Ozdemir -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] RPMs for Debian!
I thought that might get your attention. Could someone briefly explain WITHOUT prejudice what is Debian as opposed to what is not Debian? Please be objective. Further what difference would that mean if I wanted to load an application, say, Real Player 8 for *nix? Richard -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Skywell MagicTV video capture card
quote who="DaZZa" So why did I upgrade from CPM then? CP/M wasn't broke? CP/M didn't have decent 3D accelerator support! obFreeSoftware: Now, if nVidia wrote Free Software drivers, you could have your Quake and CP/M it too. (Sorry.) - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- It's depressing to see such useful code wasted on such a useless license. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Kylix arrives
Delphi Kylix was released Jan 31. C++ Kylix is real soon now ( oh well ). http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-01-31-001-27-OP-CY-SW or community.borland.com There are stripped down free versions available. By the sounds of it more complete than the windoze free versions though. KenF - This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Sony SDT-7000 tape drive problems
I have a Sony SDT-7000 tape drive to be used to back up a Linux server. Everything was fine until I tried to back up a large amount of data on a 20gb drive. I have tried using both dump and tar and with each got a message at the end of the first volume that it was time to change volumes. When I did so, I got an I/O error message and had to abort the dump (or tar). When you say "volume", are you refering to the tape as a volume, or the disk ? The reason I ask is that, if you are TARing, there is a special switch to span tapes. See the man page(s). I suspect there may be something wrong with the driver. Formerly I used this same drive on a SCO Unix box without a problem. The driver sounds OK - probably just the command you're using... Now, if anyone can tell me how to get my DDS3 drive to back up more than 4Gb (it's a 12/24 Gb drive !!) on DDS3 tapes...:-) Jon -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] RPMs for Debian!
There's going to be some long answers to this one. I'll focus mine on the RealPlayer: Nothing. Don't download the RPM, down load the Tarball which has an installer in it and you are off and running (worked fine on my Debian system). :) On Mon, 05 Feb 2001 19:46:12 Richard Blackburn wrote: I thought that might get your attention. Could someone briefly explain WITHOUT prejudice what is Debian as opposed to what is not Debian? Please be objective. Further what difference would that mean if I wanted to load an application, say, Real Player 8 for *nix? Richard -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- Cheers, Craige. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Skywell MagicTV video capture card
Jeff Waugh wrote:
CP/M didn't have decent 3D accelerator support!
We didn't need 3D to play games then - we knew how to PLAY. {:-)
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Re: Sorry ! Re: [SLUG] Pascal, anyone?
At 09:04 AM 5/02/01 +1100, Jamie Honan wrote:
transfer Fidonet packets {if you don't know, don't ask - you're probably
too young anyway!} via the internet/IP.
Eeee;... flashback time
Wasn't there a C version of this (written, as I recall, by a Minister
from Manly) ??
Let me see if I can contact him and ask..
Apolgies, couldn't resist:
A programming Minister from Manly,
needed Fidonet packets handily
said he, with devlish glee
I'll translate this Pascal to C
And is now contactable randomly
All I can say Jamie is "PLEASE don't give up your day job !!!"
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[SLUG] Sony SDT-7000 tape drive problems
Jon Biddell wrote:
Now, if anyone can tell me how to get my DDS3 drive to back up more than
4Gb (it's a 12/24 Gb drive !!) on DDS3 tapes...:-)
It is in the archives somewhere, but
60M = 1Gb
90M = 4Gb?
120M = 8Gb
125M = 12Gb
Probably incorrect, but someone will know for sure.
Either you have the wrong tapes or the drive is not recognising their
true capacity.
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Re: [SLUG] Sony SDT-7000 tape drive problems
Yes...I am using tape, not disk. "Volume" can refer to any medium in this context. I am using the -M option with tar. The end-of-volume seems to be sensed correctly. The I/O error occurs after mounting the new tape. Dennis On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Jon Biddell wrote: I have a Sony SDT-7000 tape drive to be used to back up a Linux server. Everything was fine until I tried to back up a large amount of data on a 20gb drive. I have tried using both dump and tar and with each got a message at the end of the first volume that it was time to change volumes. When I did so, I got an I/O error message and had to abort the dump (or tar). When you say "volume", are you refering to the tape as a volume, or the disk ? The reason I ask is that, if you are TARing, there is a special switch to span tapes. See the man page(s). I suspect there may be something wrong with the driver. Formerly I used this same drive on a SCO Unix box without a problem. The driver sounds OK - probably just the command you're using... Now, if anyone can tell me how to get my DDS3 drive to back up more than 4Gb (it's a 12/24 Gb drive !!) on DDS3 tapes...:-) Jon -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] On the topic of new lists.
At 11:51 AM 5/02/01 +1100, David Kempe wrote: How about we put a voting thingy on the website? :) yaya voting thingy! Seconded - the voting things, that is -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Sony SDT-7000 tape drive problems
Jon Biddell was once rumoured to have said: Now, if anyone can tell me how to get my DDS3 drive to back up more than 4Gb (it's a 12/24 Gb drive !!) on DDS3 tapes...:-) Sounds like you're using DDS2 tapes in a DDS3 drive. Also, don't bother quoting the "compressed" capacity figures - They're just marketing drivel. I've yet to see a tape-drive actually achieve it on real-life data. -- --==-- Crossfire | This email was brought to you [EMAIL PROTECTED] | on 100% Recycled Electrons --==-- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] RPMs for Debian!
quote who="Richard Blackburn" I thought that might get your attention. Have a look at 'alien' sometime... RPMs for Debian (and vice versa, and others). RPM is also packaged in the official Debian repositories. Could someone briefly explain WITHOUT prejudice what is Debian as opposed to what is not Debian? Please be objective. Okay, I'll bite. ;) Debian is the OS you can download from www.debian.org, or one of its mirrors. The project provides well integrated software that can be used on top of the Linux, HURD, and soon, the BSD kernels. But that's all semantics - how can you say what is SuSE and what is not? After all, they're all the same OS (Linux), and most of them distribute similar selections of Free Software. It's really the way it's done that makes the difference. :) The non-objective side of it is this: I reckon Debian is a very cool way of building an OS around Free Software. Nothing religious, I just like it a lot. :) Further what difference would that mean if I wanted to load an application, say, Real Player 8 for *nix? Oh, that's easy: apt-get install realplayer Really, I'm not kidding! Okay, realplayer is only distributed as an RPM by Real. Plus, the way they lay out the files and set it up doesn't really fit into Debian's design; alien doesn't really help out a lot. When you install realplayer in Debian, debconf (the standard package configuration system - ncurses clicky stuff) prompts you to download the RPM, and it then extracts and installs realplayer the 'Debian Way'. [1] Not all packages do this - you just happened to choose a good one to demonstrate how the Debian project routes around problems. ;) - Jeff [1] Some people get the impression that this strange thing sometimes called the 'Debian Way' is a wild decree that things must be in their 'proper place' and any exceptions will be flamed publically. Okay, so it sometimes is that, ;) but it's usually a lot more. How do you make sure that thousands of pieces of software work together well? You have to standardise, and have good ways of interacting with it. I've mentioned the 'rule of least surprise' before; Debian pulls this off remarkably well. I now say about Debian what I used to say about Linux: It's not quite ready for everyone (yet), but it's bloody good stuff already. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] [Fwd: those who live in glasshouses ..]
Interesting message received on our internal linux mailing list here at Canon... Strange, no? Original Message Subject: those who live in glasshouses .. Date: Mon, 05 Feb 01 15:05:50 +1100 linuxjournal were crowing about microsoft's dnses running linux : http://www2.linuxjournal.com/articles/buzz/0044.html fair enough. so what is store.linuxjournal.com running on? if you go there, notice the big 'windows free zone' tape. let's ask netcraft what the site is running : http://www.netcraft.com/whats/?host=store.linuxjournal.com beautiful. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] AUUG 2001 Update No: 1 (fwd)
AUUG (the Australian Unix Users Group) is holding their next annual conference in Sydney in September. It should be fun, they tend to cover a fairly wide range of topics and it is a good chance to compare Linux to what is going on in the BSD and proprietary Unix worlds. The announcement below includes information for those wishing to present at the conference. Conrad. - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - AUUG 2001 - Always On and Everywhere Welcome to the first of our regular notes about the preparations for AUUG 2001. This year AUUG has moved back to its regular time-frame of September, and as such the AUUG Annual Conference will be held in Sydney, Australia, 26, 27 and 28 September 2001. The Conference will be preceded by three days of tutorials, to be held on 23, 24 and 25 September 2001. Like all previous AUUG Conferences, this is a technical conference, the success of which is built on the support of the AUUG membership and like-minded individuals. To this end, we are always looking for good papers from you, with the close for the CFP being 13 July 2001 -- still plenty of time to send one in! Along with papers from the membership, we are also arranging a number of well-known International Keynote Speakers. More details about these will follow. Information on the conference can be found at: http://www.auug.org.au/winter/auug2001/ This includes a copy of the Call for Papers, as well as details about Sponsorship Opportunities for AUUG 2001. There are a number of different packages available, ranging from $2,500 to $10,000, or some which can be individually tailored to suit your organisation. Why not consider your company taking one out. I will be happy to discuss your particular requirements, and can be contacted via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or on 1-800-625 655. Please check the AUUG site regularly for any updates. We look forward to your participation at AUUG 2001. Liz Carroll AUUG Business Manager - End forwarded message - -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Too much security!!
You're a legend!! /etc/lilo.conf had the 'i' attribute on making it read-only (and various other things). Thanks, and thanks to the others that responded to the soundcard mail. Jin Luke Szymanski wrote: lsattr /etc/lilo.conf /etc/lilo.conf If you don't get '' man chattr If it's not that, I don't have a clue. Luke. On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Jin Ting Liew wrote: After reading an article on Linux security some time ago, I put some extra security measures on my server (the same one that has the problem with Redhad network update agent). This included protecting /etc/lilo.conf. I am not sure what i did to it, but even as root or in single user mode i cannot do anything to this file but read it. Even the redhat 7 upgrade had problems with this file and aborted (causing a huge headache, but this has been resolved). I am certain that the drive is mounted read / write and that I have the appropriate permissions to write to the file. If anyone knows what I have done it would be great if you could let me know = ) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] RPMs for Debian!
On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 07:46:12PM +1100, Richard Blackburn wrote: I thought that might get your attention. Could someone briefly explain WITHOUT prejudice what is Debian as opposed to what is not Debian? Please be objective. best thing, read the "Debian Social Contract" http://www.debian.org/social_contract and The Debian Free Software Guidelines http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines Further what difference would that mean if I wanted to load an application, say, Real Player 8 for *nix? nothing. amu -- Aus der Reihe "Arbeiten wie die Profis" k?nnte folgendes Zitat stammen: "Manchmal vergisst Windows auch, beim L?schen einer Datei deren langen Dateinamen zu l?schen, Warum? Wei? ich auch nicht, aber es passiert". Quelle: Buch "Windows ME", erschienen im Franzis-Verlag. -- Public-gpg-Key: http://tr.debian.net/amu/amu.key -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Sony SDT-7000 tape drive problems
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[SLUG] Meeting - 23rd February, 2001
Meeting - Friday, 23nd February, 2001 - The Usual Suspects -- * QA - "What has Linux done for/to me lately?" * Linux News Discussion He's Bck! - Conrad has returned from New York (LWE) and Brussels (OSDEM) with some hacks, and stories... "I'll do a (short/userlevel) talk at this months meeting about my new presentation tool ekepoint. "When I got to America I decided to rewrite my presentation as a C program using Evas. I abstracted out the engine and turned it into a library (libekepoint). Then at OSDEM I wrote a magicpoint replacement (ekemagic) cos Wichert's laptop was [unwell]. It reads the same slides but doesn't [have an ungainly appearance]. "I'll also crap on about the two conferences. (OSDEM rocked by the way, fyodor on nmap was awesome)." Our first Conectiva Review! --- Jason is our Conectiva guinea pig, and it looks like he's survived. What happens when you cross Brazil, RPM and apt? iA evolucao da especie!/i Or at least that's what they say. Plus, as always, dinner afterwards -- Directions to this month's SLUG meeting: URL: http://slug.org.au/slugmeet.shtml See you all there! - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- - What inspired you to become a bus driver? - Linus Torvalds. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] [Fwd: those who live in glasshouses ..]
quote who="Matthew Dalton" Strange, no? http://www.netcraft.com/whats/?host=store.linuxjournal.com They've been defending it on their letters page ever since. :) Some say this is 'religion' getting in the way of everything else, but... It's a bit slack given the options out there. Don't worry, Don Marti will be giving them stick before too long. - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- Australians don't dislike Americans, we just dislike the sight, sound and thought of them. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] [Fwd: those who live in glasshouses ..]
On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Matthew Dalton wrote: Original Message Subject: those who live in glasshouses .. Date: Mon, 05 Feb 01 15:05:50 +1100 linuxjournal were crowing about microsoft's dnses running linux : http://www2.linuxjournal.com/articles/buzz/0044.html fair enough. so what is store.linuxjournal.com running on? if you go there, notice the big 'windows free zone' tape. let's ask netcraft what the site is running : http://www.netcraft.com/whats/?host=store.linuxjournal.com I believe this was asked in a letter that was published a year or so ago in the magazine. From memory, the answer was that store.linuxjournal.com was outsourced. The company that created it used NT and other M$ "solutions". I've never visited that site, so I don't know how much it does. But isn't there a couple of open-source "e-commerce" packages now? Perhaps they could relaunch the store - running Linux, Apache, mod_perl/PHP/Whatever. -- 8888888 Ian Tester *8)# \7\LINUX: because geeks will find a way [EMAIL PROTECTED] \7\ http://www.zipworld.com.au/~imroy -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: Slug digest, Vol 1 #591 - 19 msgs
Hi, This may sound like a stupid question, but, do any of you out there know how to restrict access to an index but not the files in it via .htaccess for Apache? That would allow the user to get the data (images) with the HTML document but not be able to see the folder index with it's entire context. Cheers, Ben - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 8:15 PM Subject: Slug digest, Vol 1 #591 - 19 msgs Send Slug mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Slug digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Debian Install ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 2. Re: Installing RH 7.0 (Peter Rundle) 3. Re: [ANN] Interest in a Debian SIG [Was: [SLUG] MetaSLUG [Was: SLUG Activities]] (Craige McWhirter) 4. Re: Skywell MagicTV video capture card (DaZZa) 5. Re: Getting magicpoint to recognise my freetype fonts. (Michael Lake) 6. Re: Skywell MagicTV video capture card (Terry Collins) 7. re : Debian Install ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 8. RE: Skywell MagicTV video capture card (Jill Rowling) 9. Re: Skywell MagicTV video capture card (Terry Collins) 10. Re: dhcpd.. thanks all (Alex Salmon) 11. Re: Too much security!! (Luke Szymanski) 12. Re: Installing RH 7.0 (Mehmet Ozdemir) 13. Re: Skywell MagicTV video capture card (Jeff Waugh) 14. RPMs for Debian! (Richard Blackburn) 15. Re: RPMs for Debian! (Craige McWhirter) 16. Kylix arrives ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 17. Re: Sorry ! Re: [SLUG] Pascal, anyone? (Jon Biddell) 18. Re: Sony SDT-7000 tape drive problems (Jon Biddell) 19. Re: Sony SDT-7000 tape drive problems ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List Digest - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.230 / Virus Database: 111 - Release Date: 25/01/2001 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] [Fwd: those who live in glasshouses ..]
Interesting message received on our internal linux mailing list here at Canon... Strange, no? No really you'll find they probably out source that chuck of the web site, so as to get secure credit facilites? Jason -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] [Fwd: those who live in glasshouses ..]
If you wana hook into credit cards and debit systems and the like quite often your not given alot of options. Only their store is using NT, its not like its mission critical stuff. Dean Jason Rennie wrote: Interesting message received on our internal linux mailing list here at Canon... Strange, no? No really you'll find they probably out source that chuck of the web site, so as to get secure credit facilites? Jason -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- BONG: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL... [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: Slug digest, Vol 1 #591 - 19 msgs
quote who="Ben Babich" This may sound like a stupid question, but, do any of you out there know how to restrict access to an index but not the files in it via .htaccess for Apache? .htaccess: Options -Indexes I often have a .htaccess file in my top level web directory, and have these lines in it: FilesMatch images|admin|blah|dontlookhereyoupeskycracker Options -Indexes /FilesMatch Tasty. - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- "Free software never simply picks up its marbles and goes home." - Jonathan Corbet, LWN -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Skywell MagicTV video capture card
This one time, at band camp, Terry Collins said:
Jeff Waugh wrote:
CP/M didn't have decent 3D accelerator support!
We didn't need 3D to play games then - we knew how to PLAY. {:-)
"space invaders, and that other boring game." :)
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Re: [SLUG] Installing RH 7.0
This one time, at band camp, Bill Bennett said: [I have a problem with logic here. It seems to me that I cannot order an operating system to destroy/remove itself, because what carries out this operation, ie., what's left after completion, is part of the operating system. Am I right?] Aha, you aren't being presented with the full picture. The part of the operating system that can be made responsible for removing the operating system is mirrored into short term memory whilst the purge continutes. The magic here is that once the long term storage is clean, the short term can be erased by features outside of the OS, ie turning off the power. -- "Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to using (o_ ' Windows NT for mission-critical applications." //\ -- What Yoda *meant* to say, Devin L. Ganger, scary.devil.monastery v_/_ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Authentication
With linux as the server, what is the best way to set up centralised network authentication (domain logon, so to speak) for windows 95/98/NT and linux clients? I'd like to avoid putting in an NT server. Regards, Matthias -- - Matthias Oertli [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] RPMs for Debian!
This one time, at band camp, Ian Tester said: On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Craige McWhirter wrote: There's going to be some long answers to this one. I'll focus mine on the RealPlayer: Nothing. Don't download the RPM, down load the Tarball which has an installer in it and you are off and running (worked fine on my Debian system). Gee, I've always just used the debian package that comes with debian. The post-install asks you to download the RPM and put it in /root. I guess it then uses Alien to convert it or something. realplayer depends on rpm, debian actually extracts the rpm to a sandbox and moves the contents to the Correct(tm) locations. -- "Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to using (o_ ' Windows NT for mission-critical applications." //\ -- What Yoda *meant* to say, Devin L. Ganger, scary.devil.monastery v_/_ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] [Fwd: those who live in glasshouses ..]
Matthew Dalton wrote: Interesting message received on our internal linux mailing list here at Canon... Strange, no? http://www.netcraft.com/whats/?host=store.linuxjournal.com beautiful. which reports: "The site store.linuxjournal.com runs Microsoft-IIS/4.0 on NT4/Windows 98" IIS as a front-end. Nah, they are running a few low-paid, undernourished NT boxen feeding a farm of Linux/Apaches which do the grunt dynamic page serving ;) Crackers take note and hackers beware ... we've found YAWBOTN -- Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services Pty Limited "Tired of being a crash test dummy for Microsoft? Try Linux" -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Meeting - 23rd February, 2001
Jeff Waugh wrote: Meeting - Friday, 23nd February, 2001 - The Usual Suspects -- * QA - "What has Linux done for/to me lately?" * Linux News Discussion What happened to the Kylix presentation, will it be on this month, next month ??? Regards Mehmet Ozdemir -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Updated Sparc Hardware list from ComputerBank
Hello Everyone, Want to break of of the Lintel (wintel) monopoly? Well here is your chance! ComputerBank-NSW currently has Sun boxen and a SGI workstation that need good homes. Last Saturday (3rd Feb) we held a workshop in Terry's garage to sort through the equipment ... even tried a Linux install. The list below is has been updated to include any information that we found on Saturday. We also decided to split the packages of monitor and computer so you can now just buy the monitor or vice versa. The hardware will be distributed to people prepared to pay that suggested value of the equipment and the merit of the bit. If you don't think the hardware is worth the suggested value or you cannot afford it, make an offer, all bids will be considered on their merit. There will be a MacLUG meeting on Saturday 17th February where we will endeavour to help you install Linux/BSD(?)/Solaris on your new boxes. All payments on approved bids must be received on or before this day, otherwise the hardware may be redistributed. Any hardware that has been paid for must be removed picked in person or by courier before the 24th, otherwise the item may even become garden furniture. Value $2751 Sparc 10 (w/ 20" monitor, 32M RAM, hard disk ???) $1251 Sparc Classic 48Mb (keyboard and mouse, NO monitor) $1251 Sparc LX 32M RAM (keyboard and mouse, NO monitor) includes ISDN port also twisted pair network port $75 1 Sparc IPC 8Mb (keyboard, NO mouse NO monitor) AUI networking port (no BNC or TP) $75 1 Sparc IPX 40Mb (NO keyboard, NO mouse NO monitor) AUI networking port (no BNC or TP) Spare Parts Material $75 1 Sparc 2 (no memory, no keyboard no monitor) $75 1 Sparc 1+ $50 1 14" NEC (model no.) monitor $1501 17" NEC (model no.) monitor $50 2 half-height external disk boxes (various sizes) high-density SCSI ports $50 6 full-height external disk boxes (various sizes) low-density SCSI ports Auction (to highest bid) $150+ 1 Indy (SGI) (w/ 17" monitor) Firstly regarding all this equipment; v1.1 * Guarantee: There Is None: Lets make this very clear up front. None of this equipment comes with a guarantee. ComputerBank have received the items "as is" so we cannot and will not, service it, support it or anything else it. We will tell you the little we know about the equipment. You make up your own mind. Just to prove we are not heartless bastards. If the hardware is "seriously broken" and non operational from the start, then if you return the item (at your expense) and can demonstrate the problem, we of course will refund the money you gave to ComputerBank for the equipment only. Specifically excluded from this refund are the units hard disks, as these can be damaged in transport or by many other causes and as such we can not take responsibility for their failure. But there will no refunds of any postage in any situation. Refunds will not be given in any other circumstances. * For further details contact Terry Collins or myself, at: "Mark Willis" [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Terry Collins" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards Mark -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] RPMs for Debian!
On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 07:46:12PM +1100, Richard Blackburn uttered: Could someone briefly explain WITHOUT prejudice what is Debian as opposed to what is not Debian? Please be objective. What you're really asking is why Debian is cool. I can answer that. 1) Strong policy Debian has a strong policy on everything from labelling software that isn't free to the locations of files on the file system. This last is a real breath of fresh air coming from RedHat where most of the useful software comes in "contrib" meaning it doesn't match policy. For example config files ALL go in /etc. No ifs, no buts. If a config file isn't in /etc it is flagged as a critical bug in the bug database and the developer is strongly hassled by the bug software and peers to fix it. By contrast look at the Majordomo package in RPM format which stored config in /usr/lib/majordomo (from memory). When every package you install uses a different location you really end up using locate a lot! 2) Debian is a live distribution With the tool apt, Debian is a live distribution with real "hands off" upgrades. If you run unstable (and you should -- unstable is a poor label as it is stable) you get upgrades to the latest versions of software just but running apt-get update and apt-get ungrade. This works by querying your local mirror for a packages list which defines all the available packages, their versions and dependencies. You system then upgrades selected packages that have a new version available. 3) Receptive developers With a centralised bug-tracking system, developers are really responsive when you flag bugs. For example I flagged a bug in msttcorefonts last week and it was fixed over the weekend. 4) Debian has more packages So nyer. It really is often a case of read about a new piece of code on freshmeat, do an apt-get update and the package is already packaged up in Debian. 5) Debian helps you pull chicks Well I don't know about that one... But if I was a chick I'd insist on a prospective bed partner converting 8) -- Rev Simon RumbleCurrent physical location: London, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED]Travel site: http://www.rumble.net/travel http://www.rumble.net -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] kernel.. err
hi all I am just playing w/ 2.4 and have relised that it does not seem to have any masqurading modules. is this right.. nothing to the effect shows up in xconfig.. i then tried to compile 2.2.18 again but i am getting a strage error. init/main.c: In function `start_kernel': init/main.c:1447: warning: implicit declaration of function `bigphysarea_init' make: *** [init/main.o] Error 1 vila:/usr/src/linux# any ideas?? i just patched on the vpn masq patch if that makes any diffrence.. thanks alex _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Updated Sparc Hardware list from ComputerBank
On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Mark Willis wrote: We also decided to split the packages of monitor and computer so you can now just buy the monitor or vice versa. Do these Suns use non-PC connections/cables? i.e R/G/B/sync on seperate BNC connectors or something similar? Will I be able to use these machines with a normal VGA monitor? -- 8888888 Ian Tester *8)# \7\LINUX: because geeks will find a way [EMAIL PROTECTED] \7\ http://www.zipworld.com.au/~imroy -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Updated Sparc Hardware list from ComputerBank
Ian Tester was once rumoured to have said: On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Mark Willis wrote: We also decided to split the packages of monitor and computer so you can now just buy the monitor or vice versa. Do these Suns use non-PC connections/cables? i.e R/G/B/sync on seperate BNC connectors or something similar? Will I be able to use these machines with a normal VGA monitor? These model suns traditionally use a 13W3 connector on the back - the standard Sun badged monitors were fixed sync, and had a matching 13W3 connector - other Sun badged monitors had 4 BNCs (R, G, B and C. Sync). however, it would seem that these machines had ordinary monitors on them. C. -- --==-- Crossfire | This email was brought to you [EMAIL PROTECTED] | on 100% Recycled Electrons --==-- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] kernel.. err
2.4 uses a different firewalling and masquerading system to 2.2 - one which is _much_ nicer to use... in the networking options part of x/menuconfig, see IP: Netfilter Configuration sub menu. -Thom * Alex Salmon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote on Sat Feb 03, 2001 at 09:06:53PM +1100: hi all I am just playing w/ 2.4 and have relised that it does not seem to have any masqurading modules. is this right.. nothing to the effect shows up in xconfig.. i then tried to compile 2.2.18 again but i am getting a strage error. init/main.c: In function `start_kernel': init/main.c:1447: warning: implicit declaration of function `bigphysarea_init' make: *** [init/main.o] Error 1 vila:/usr/src/linux# any ideas?? i just patched on the vpn masq patch if that makes any diffrence.. thanks alex _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Updated Sparc Hardware list from ComputerBank
Crossfire wrote:
Do these Suns use non-PC connections/cables? i.e R/G/B/sync on seperate
BNC connectors or something similar?
Will I be able to use these machines with a normal VGA monitor?
These model suns traditionally use a 13W3 connector on the back - the
standard Sun badged monitors were fixed sync, and had a matching 13W3
connector - other Sun badged monitors had 4 BNCs (R, G, B and
C. Sync). however, it would seem that these machines had ordinary
monitors on them.
Yes, basically, the lunch box systems were given with "standard"
monitors.
If you buy one of the Sun lunch box systems and one of the two remaining
screens, then
the NEC 5FGp will come with two cables to allow it to be connected to a
Sun box or other computer.
Plus, we have a converter for sun to standard for the Nec 4FG.
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[SLUG] dev/vcs
HI, Can someone tell me what .U.. /dev/vcs1 .U.. /dev/vcsa1 are and why they might change (in other words what did I do to change them!) These popped up from a 'check-packages' script I acquired from somewhere, which usually shows no changes or at least ones I know about. Simon Bryan IT Manager OLMC Parramatta http://www.olmc.nsw.edu.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] New RPM format
Dear Sluggers, I'm using RH 6.2 and want to upgrade??? to the newer RPM format used in RH 7.0 I have searched with Google and at the RedHat site, any pointers please. -- Richard Hayes Nada Marketing - 113-115 Oxford St Sydney Australia 2010 Phone: +(61-2) 9360 Fax: +(61-2) 9361 0094 Mob: +(61) 0414 618 425 http://www.nada.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Wierd routing problems....
I've got a strange routing problem on my system: 3 boxes in a network plus a router, one system is a dialin server. If I dial in and try to ping another box on the lan there is no reply coming back to the ppp connection but if I ssh onto the server, I can ping, access the other systems. Using tcpdump -i eth0 on the server while pinging from the ppp connection shows the request is getting out to the other system and it is replying - however the reply is not passed on to the ppp connection (only gets as far as the eth0 connection).. also, the ppp connection can access / ping the router and any other external system and any other ppp connection. The only thing a ppp connection cannot get replies from (although the reply is reaching the dialin server) is the other two boxes on the lan. Everything was OK this morning, routing table shows that the correct ip is pointing to the ppp.pid, routing table must be working as requests to/from the router are arriving safely. I would prefer not to restart the server, any suggestions what to try would be appreciated. Regards, Mehmet -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Meeting - 23rd February, 2001
On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 10:43:00PM +1100, Mehmet Ozdemir wrote: Jeff Waugh wrote: Meeting - Friday, 23nd February, 2001 - The Usual Suspects -- * QA - "What has Linux done for/to me lately?" * Linux News Discussion What happened to the Kylix presentation, will it be on this month, next month ??? haven't heard back from Borland yet, we told them this month is ok but it needs to be confirmed Conrad. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] weird PC behaviour
Hi all, ok well for people who like to know how things turned out... I picked up (another) new cpu fan, and some goo that joins the heatsink to cpu, yesterday and put it all together and cleaned all the dust and crap out of the PC and fired it up. The video seemed to work ok but the bios was still reporting junk for the hdd disk. And trying to access hdc was giving all sorts of ext2 fs errors, and the directory sizes and settings all wrong etc etc. Anway, I thought about what I was doing at the time some more and checked everything closely and noticed hdc had a jumper set across two pins that I intended to mean to set it to master but the two pins I picked weren't listed as valid (master/slave/cable etc). (It's a Fujitsu disk and I'm so used to Seagate ones I just whacked it on as you do for Seagate - and of course they're different!) So I fixed that and suddenly hdd was ok in the bios and hdc worked ok again (the two pins I picked must have been the undocumented "f#k up the IDE bus" setting) . So now it's working again. I'm still slightly suspicious of it though (it was on all through that hot weather just recently with a dead or dying cpu fan) so I am keeping an eye out for any more weird behaviour (and I did a backup of the system which I hadn't done since I installed it all a few weeks ago). Dave. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] [Fwd: those who live in glasshouses ..]
They've been defending it on their letters page ever since. :) Some say this is 'religion' getting in the way of everything else, but... It's a bit slack given the options out there. the company it is outsourced to wrote back and explained that the NT setup was legacy and they were currently porting to unix... later marty -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: Updated Sparc HW - HD's to Bangladesh
Mark Willis wrote:
Hello Everyone,
Want to break of of the Lintel (wintel) monopoly? Well here is your
chance! ComputerBank-NSW currently has Sun boxen and a SGI
workstation that need good homes.
...snip...
$50 2 half-height external disk boxes (various sizes)
high-density SCSI ports
$50 6 full-height external disk boxes (various sizes)
low-density SCSI ports
The six full height external hard disk are now gone.
I was approached and I've donated them to a FoE computer shipment to
Bangladesh.
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[SLUG] Sending mail from apache
Hi people, I am experiencing some difficulty in getting mail to be sent from apache. I currently have a couple of sites that were on another linux box. The sites use the standard mailto command through a php script to mail some information etc. However, the mail does not appear to be being sent. I cannot find any errors in the system to see why the email is not being sent. If I use the standard mailto command from the command line the mail goes through ok. Any ideas would be appreciated on this one - Shannon
Re: [SLUG] Sending mail from apache
I am experiencing some difficulty in getting mail to be sent from apache. I currently have a couple of sites that were on another linux box. The sites use the standard mailto command through a php script to mail some information etc. php has a function to do this without having to invoke an 'exec'... have a look at the mail() function... http://www.php.net/manual/en/html/function.mail.html later marty -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Sending mail from apache
I am experiencing some difficulty in getting mail to be sent from apache. I currently have a couple of sites that were on another linux box. The sites use the standard mailto command through a php script to mail some information etc. php has a function to do this without having to invoke an 'exec'... have a look at the mail() function... http://www.php.net/manual/en/html/function.mail.html My apologies, this is the function that I am using however, my problem is that the actual mail is not being sent to the intended recipient. I am asuming that it is a permissions problem, however I am not getting any errors that I can tell. - Shannon -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Etherboot question
G'day all, I recently got a diskless-root via nfs system working and now would like to see if I can get it to boot using etherboot. This is soley for the sake of convienience. At the moment I am stuck. the ROM image loads from the floppy, it gets an IP address and starts downloading the the kernel via tftp then it reboots. I have run mknbi on a kernel I am already using to boot from floppy and mount root via nfs so I am pretty sure the kernels ok. Any ideas about what is going wrong, or how I can get a better idea of whats going wrong? Its an intel eepro100 NIC btw. TIA Gareth Walters -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Etherboot question
|At the moment I am stuck. |the ROM image loads from the floppy, it gets an IP address and starts |downloading the the kernel via tftp then it reboots. | |I have run mknbi on a kernel I am already using to boot from floppy and |mount root via nfs so I am pretty sure the kernels ok. | |Any ideas about what is going wrong, or how I can get a better idea of whats |going wrong? | |Its an intel eepro100 NIC btw. What version Etherboot are you using? There was a bug in older versions where the eepro100 hardware was not disabled at the end of tftp loading so was still live and liable to crash the machine when packets came in and overwrote parts of the kernel in memory. If you are not using the latest or close to the latest version (4.6.12, 4.7.18), you should be flogged with wet noodles. :-) You don't have to compile it yourself, you can get ROM images made on demand using the web form at http://rom-o-matic.net Followups set to Etherboot-users mailing list. You should join this list or be flogged with... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Sending mail from apache
quote who="Shannon Doyle" I am asuming that it is a permissions problem, however I am not getting any errors that I can tell. Have you had a sift through /var/log/mail(log|.log) to see if there are any errors there? - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- I was there when geek became chic. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Sending mail from apache
Have you had a sift through /var/log/mail(log|.log) to see if there are any errors there? I sure have. The weird part was that the mail logs were under their own directory in the /var/log/ directory. Split into error, info and warning files. Something I have never seen before. Nothing in the logs, but now I have found that sendmail itself is no longer functioning. Another of my techs have been playing..and removed sendmail... and he says that the rpm is failing on install. Guess I will be here late tonight trying to get this all working again. - Shannon -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
