[SLUG] OT: Me spamming?
On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, George Vieira wrote: > AAargh... Grant Parnell's sending spam mail to the slug list.. ;-)) > > 5 emails in 4 minutes ;-) Ahh shutup, just because I read & write SLUG email on the train & send in batches. Perfect waste of 2 hours each way on a train. -- -- Web: www.arcadia.au.com/gripz Phone/fax: 02 4950 1194 Mobile: 0408 686 201 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Offline Email Reading that pre-fetches URL's
On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Mike Holland wrote: >Whats is a good way to add an attachment to an email from a > script/command-line ? (though I think it would be better as a separate > mail.) man metasend "Crude interface for sending non-text email" -- -- Web: www.arcadia.au.com/gripz Phone/fax: 02 4950 1194 Mobile: 0408 686 201 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Documenting code logic
This is a case of the aftermath of hacking together stuff for years but I'm wondering if people have found any decent linux software suited to the task of documenting existing code logic. We've gotten to the stage where we're treading on each other's toes a bit when it comes to how we thing the algorithms should work. I'm not sure whether a flow chart or state diagram or something else is most appropriate. For example, allocating stock in a fair way to a purchase order is not as easy as it sounds. We try to keep the most number of customers happy with quick turnaround and so far we don't usually bill until we're about to ship. Things to consider are probably too long to list here but some are as follows:- * do we have all the items on an order right now * if 3 people order penguins and we have one in stock it goes to the first one to order it so it should appear 'out of stock' to the other 2 orders. * if a large shipment of a popular out of stock item is due shortly we can allow other orders to 'steal' the stock from orders awaiting other long delay items. * some customers don't care about turnaround so much as cheap delivery, so no part shipments for them. And that's just a few for the 'Show me orders to do' function. We've got product management, invoicing, receipting, taxable/non-taxable items, BAS, shipping calculations, dealer discounts and heaps of other things. -- -- Web: www.arcadia.au.com/gripz Phone/fax: 02 4950 1194 Mobile: 0408 686 201 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Executing M$ / Macs Apps remotely
Sounds like you need Win4Lin server edition. We have it setup at the office for demos at EverythingLinux. It's nice, it's just a regular X application as far as workstations are concerned. As for remote connection, it can be run under VNC as well. Win4Lin server edition is designed to be an MS Terminal server competitor. www.everythinglinux.com.au or 02 9712 1799. On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Richard Hayes wrote: > Dear List, > > I am trying to use XDM or something else to run remotely hosted apps. > > 1. Has anyone used VMware / Win4lin to run M$ apps remotely similar to M$ > Terminal Server? > > 2. Has anyone used VNC to control a remote desktop / apps under Xwindows. > > I trying to create a centrally control *nix environment but need run Doze > apps occasionally. -- -- Web: www.arcadia.au.com/gripz Phone/fax: 02 4950 1194 Mobile: 0408 686 201 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Executing M$ / Macs Apps remotely
On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Michael Covi wrote: > vmware sucks. Your forced to pay to upgrade all the time if you run up to > date kernels. It's also way to expensive at $600 a pop. The've got you in a > much bigger vice than even ms does > > Whats the story with win4lin? Similar vices, just a lot cheaper. I've got to upgrade from Win4Lin 2.0 to 3.0 to run a 2.4 kernel for example. Think 3.0 is something like $150? -- -- Web: www.arcadia.au.com/gripz Phone/fax: 02 4950 1194 Mobile: 0408 686 201 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Mutt Basics
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Matt - wrote: > I also don't understand the local mail server > concept. Is it true that it's common practice to > have a mail server on my system constantly receive > mail and then offer it to my email programs - it > seems like most email programs want to check "local > mail" by default". This is very common practice it's the default on most installations I'd say. Certainly RedHat & friends in any case. This enables you to pick & chose any mail client you care to use and you can keep the exact same mailbox. -- -- Web: www.arcadia.au.com/gripz Phone/fax: 02 4950 1194 Mobile: 0408 686 201 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Faxing yourself in Linux.
Well if you want the dodgy brothers way of doing it plug the faxmodem and fax machine into the same line, use the fax machine's off hook button (as in manually dialing) to pickup the line, wait approximately 90 seconds for the line to fall silent, somehow get hylafax to manually answer (ie no ringing happens) and press the start button on the fax machine, you have about another 90 seconds before the line goes dead. Personally I'd recommend either a cheap scanner or PABX. The scanner's going to be less hassle in the long run. Actually, there's some multi-function devices that are a scanner/printer/fax, if they work with Linux you're really cookin' On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > Anyone know a way of faxing your linux system from a normal fax machine > > without giving Telstra 22c per shot. > > Faxing implies a telephone call, so, you're still paying telstra. > > > Got a client who wants to scan multiple page documents into emails for a > > digital backup of the hard copy.. > > > > Currently they fax them to their jfax account which emails them the > > scanned tif files to their server. > > That's an odd way of doing it... Why don't they just get a scanner and save > to their hard drive? Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your explanation. :) > > > If it can be done, it's a nice way to get a cheap sheet-feeding scanner > > (admittedly low res). > > Ah. That's... roundabout. But you could make it work... Maybe. > > http://www.hylafax.org/ > > Highly overengineered concept to get yourself a cheap scanner. :) > > - Jeff > > -- -- Web: www.arcadia.au.com/gripz Phone/fax: 02 4950 1194 Mobile: 0408 686 201 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Am I baying for the moon?
On 25 Nov 2001, Craige McWhirter wrote: > On Sun, 2001-11-25 at 15:48, Howard Lowndes wrote: > > I have a client who wants to store a variety of document types in job > > folders. Some are (cough) .doc, .xls, some are .jpg, .html, .gif. There > > could be any mixture of these in any given job folder. > > > Is there anything Linux based that comes within a bull's roar of what he > > wants; or even something that runs on that other OS. > > There are plenty of these beasts, commonly referred to as Document > Managements Systems and they do all the things your client wants and > they are all horrible beasts, do horrible things to your files. A real > administrators nightmare but a suits dream. > > All of them are so bad I won't recommend any of them :) > > Your client can expect to pay $60,000 just for the rights to use the > system, then add on hardware, consultants, user training... On the other end of the scale... we have an internal 'jobflow' system at EverythingLinux/LinuxHelp I wrote in perl. It's NOT a document management system. It needs help in that it doesen't use perl's Mime stuff yet and instead uses sucky metamail to break up the attachments, consequently it doesen't understand some emails and just includes it verbatim, headers & all. Just so we know if we're on the right path what it does is takes incoming email assigns it a job number and keeps all parts of the job as 'articles' within the job. Each reply is also tacked onto the articles list. It's completely text based and GPL'ed although I neglected to put it somewhere public. It currently stores everything in MySQL. It could be adapted to display graphical attachments, word docs, PDF's etc in the same way any text based client does (ie if running under X, launch appropriate viewer utility based on /etc/mailcap). Other useful features are multiple queue's (can view several simultaneously), priority, sorting, assigning jobs to staff, bouncing to email, applying a command to a bunch of requests by tagging first (eg deleting multiple spam's), delaying requests (cool for reminders), manually injecting jobs from the command line, limited blocking of certain senders, matching email addresses to known customers (in our case contract customers get a higher priority). It's linked to our orders system in a minimal kinda way in that if a request is linked to an order that order can be viewed/held/unheld but that's easily removed. It's not all good, there's just something I can't put my finger on when it comes to usability as with us we get *shitloads* of emails and some things seem to get lost in the queue (not programatically, but more from users not noticing or tending to ignore some cases). The main thing is it's fast to use over slow links because it's text based, especially with SSH compression. -- -- Web: www.arcadia.au.com/gripz Phone/fax: 02 4950 1194 Mobile: 0408 686 201 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Telstra ADSL - Quick Query
All that setup sounds like hard work, for RedHat 7.2 you could from the GUI just go. Programs, System, Network Configuration, click on the devices tab and add an xDSL connection and fill in the info and it's just there, comes up as a 'ppp' interface when viewed from /sbin/ifconfig. On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Kevin Waterson wrote: > > The Telstra BigPondDirect - ADSL Linux Howto type document > > This refers to an installation on RedHat 7.2 so ymmv. > > When the Telstra "Technician" came to my door to install my Telstra ADSL > I was > curious why he had this massive hand book. Telstral _DO NOT_ support > Linux, the > reason for this is that the "Technicians" are incompetent. Had I not > been on hand to > install the NIC, this guy would still be here, it was pathetic. could > not even add a windows > driver for the NIC, I had to do it for him > > OK, I had the card put in a Windows 98 machine because that is all they > support. > If you do not have a second machine, you may choose to dual boot, just > to get the > thing running and tested in the presence of the Telstra "Technician". > > He will give you a username and password as well as setting for mail www > news servers. > He will also "give" you a adsl modem ( the price of this is part of your > contract) > He will try to install a USB-to-10baseT ethernet adapter, just say "no > thanks, I want a PCI > network card". The card I got was a SMC EzyConnect PCI. It is support > in the linux kernel > and for RedHat users, kudzu will find it. > > You will need to have rp-pppoe installed, (PPP Over Ethernet). for > redhat users this is part > of the rp-pppoe rpm, install it if it is not installed already. For > other distroes check out > http://www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/ > for the latest source and install instructions. Installation for this > package > is very simple - unpack, ./configure, make, make install, adsl-setup, > adsl-start > It really is that easy mostly > > rp-pppoe contains several programs to help > with your connection, adsl-connect, adsl-start , adsl-status and > adsl-stop. > > When kudzu finds your network card do not give it an IP address or other > information. > just be sure that it is UP, for those not using RedHat a simple > ifconfig eth0 up" should do it (this assumes the NIC is eth0) > > Now we have the NIC in place and UP and rp-pppoe installed we can setup > the adsl > For this we use the command > #adsl-setup > > you will be prompted for > Username -> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > password -> lowercase_password// do not be trapped by what the > "Technician" writes > Interface -> eth0// assuming > only one NIC > Dial on-Demand -> No // this is a > permanent connection > > This writes to both /etc/chap-secrets and /etc/pap-secrets > Telstra ADSL uses CHAP and not PAP for authentication so you can check > your > /etc/chap-secrets and /etc/pap-secrets > > > thats about it > as root run > #adsl-start > > and away you go > To stop the interface use > #adsl-stop > > and to check the status of the connection (if it is up or down) > #adsl-status > > Additional Machines > When you order your Telstral ADSLyou will be asked it you want more than > one machine > connected to the network, I think this costs about and extra $10.00 per > month per machine. > Check with telstra for pricing. How ever, if you have more than one > machine you can simply > use ipchains/iptables to masquerade your internal network/s. > > Firewalls. > ADSL gives you a semi permanent connection to the internet. > It is HIGHLY recommended you use some sort of firewalling with your > connection. > Particularly if you are a business or have an internal network. > Even home users need to be vigilent. > > Telstra AUP... > This is the Telstra Acceptable Use Policy. > It is a lame document outlining "General Obligations" of using the ADSL > and Cable service. > eg, not using the connection for illegal , malicious blah blah blah. > read this exiting tome at > http://www.bigpond.com/broadband/support/aup.asp > > What it does not say is anything about running servers eg, http, ftp etc > > The AUP makes reverence to "terms and conditions" but I have been unable > to find > this document on the Telstra site. Linus makes good use of the > client/server relationship > of its applications and, if I recall, some SLUG people were approaching > Telstra regarding > this issue, I would be pleased to know more > > Kevin > > > > -- -- Web: www.arcadia.au.com/gripz Phone/fax: 02 4950 1194 Mobile: 0408 686 201 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Executing M$ / Macs Apps remotely
> > vmware sucks. Your forced to pay to upgrade all the time if you run up to > > date kernels. It's also way to expensive at $600 a pop. The've got you in a > > much bigger vice than even ms does > > > > Whats the story with win4lin? > > Similar vices, just a lot cheaper. I've got to upgrade from Win4Lin 2.0 to > 3.0 to run a 2.4 kernel for example. Think 3.0 is something like $150? $149 from anthony. I was looking at it for a friend today. Somehow its $80 US dollars to download a copy ? Jason -- Hofstadter's Law : "It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take Hofstadter's Law into account." -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Multiple Partitions
Hi all, I am a relatively new user under RH7.1 on a dual boot drive with Win98. I have been doing some research on the Linux file system layout especially the pros & cons of multiple partitions. I understand the importance of specific files/ directories & their positioning on the file system tree. I am interested in some clear guidance on what structure would be suitable for a home user (nothing too complex). I have found info on space allocation etc. but views seem to differ on recommended partition structures. Advice & referrals to good material appreciated (somewhere down the track I'd like to play around with multiple disk structures). Regards Russell Willis -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Documenting code logic
> This is a case of the aftermath of hacking together stuff for years but > I'm wondering if people have found any decent linux software suited to the > task of documenting existing code logic. Ask Mike Lake to give you a rundown on noweb. :) - Jeff -- ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Multiple Partitions
On 29-Nov-2001 Russell Andrew Willis wrote: > I am a relatively new user under RH7.1 on a dual boot drive with Win98. > I have been doing some research on the Linux file system layout > especially the pros & cons of multiple partitions. I understand the > importance of specific files/ directories & their positioning on the > file system tree. I am interested in some clear guidance on what > structure would be suitable for a home user (nothing too complex). My advice would be to start with a swap partition and a single file system partition. If you're feeling cautious, a small (say 5-10Mb) /boot partition at the start of the disc can avoid problems with older BIOSes and big discs. My personal belief is that spreading the file system over several partitions does have its place, but that the scheme must be designed to fit specific goals and the operating environment must be well understood. A home user starting out on the great Way of the Penguin shoudl apply Occam's Razor. So what do I do? Back in the mists of time I divided my disc into a variety of partitions, only to find myself running out of space in one while acres of disc languished unused in another. This, in a home context, is rather aggravating. I then moved through a single filesystem partition to my current position; a 3Mb /boot partition (my BIOS is old enough to find >8Gb discs problematic), a 4Gb / partition and the rest as /home. I split / and /home because at the time I anticipated moving from RH to Debian and wanted a clear boundary between user files and OS ones. When I did move, I wiped the / partition and installed Debian, and then hooked up /home once that was all in place. Now, of course, I see I'm at 99% usage on / so am going to run into trouble in the future if I keep installing new toys. :-) So if you have lots of disc space and want to experiment with different distros, a separate home partition might be useful. At this stage, though, I'd suggest you do the simple thing and have one filesystem partition. Oh, and watch out for older Unix manuals that propose various interesting schemes (e.g. separate partitions for /usr, /var and so forth). All great fun, and possibly useful for large production multi-user environments, but irrelevant for modern home use. -- Jim Hague - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Work), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Play) Never trust a computer you can't lift or you don't control. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Advice on coding in VI ?
Stuart Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I can't help but buy into this discussion: > > > In command mode: > > 'D' also deletes to the end of the current line, saving a whole keypress > > > 'ZZ' to save and exit instead of :wq... you don't need to move your fingers > > between keys :) > > Here's what someone had to say in the memorable vi vs Emacs Slug debate: > well, i'd been using vim for about 4 years. and i've been using emacs for about one (i'd used it a small amount before, too). i like both! they're both remarkably good editors, once you take the time to learn them. don't let their somewhat different methods of use fool you into thinking one is better than the other - they're just different. personally, i do my programming and mail in emacs, and edit config files and make quick fixes with vim. i'm proficient enough with them to not have to think about it, and i'm really happy i know both now. basically it comes down to using the right tool for the right job (i'll leave which jobs they're suitable for up to the casual reader :-). i'm of a similar mind with programming languages; digging your head into a hole and refusing to acknowledge where a particular language's strong points are, due to preconceived opinions about which language is philosophically better is just silly. .. just my 2c :-) > that pesky Escape key again". Then you make your editing change and > you have to think "time to start typing again; let's hit i,o,O,A" when you learn an editor you don't need to think about what you're doing. finger memory. > Whereas in a modeless editor like Emacs you can instantly hit > C-k for delete to end of line (one keystroke; no change-of-mode required) > and C-x C-s to save your file or C-x C-c to exit the editor; two keystrokes > but you can keep your finger on the control key in the middle of the > sequence. and to delete the entire line, including the new line, you need to do c-k c-k, in vim it's dd. we could sit here counterpointing situations where there's a minute saving in one editor over the other, but let's not. have a great day :-) -- Damien Elmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Multiple Partitions
Jim Hague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 29-Nov-2001 Russell Andrew Willis wrote: > > I am a relatively new user under RH7.1 on a dual boot drive with Win98. > > I have been doing some research on the Linux file system layout > > especially the pros & cons of multiple partitions. I understand the > > importance of specific files/ directories & their positioning on the > > file system tree. I am interested in some clear guidance on what > > structure would be suitable for a home user (nothing too complex). ... > I then moved through a single filesystem partition to my current > position; a 3Mb /boot partition (my BIOS is old enough to find >8Gb > discs problematic), a 4Gb / partition and the rest as /home. I split > / and /home because at the time I anticipated moving from RH to > Debian and wanted a clear boundary between user files and OS ones. > When I did move, I wiped the / partition and installed Debian, and > then hooked up /home once that was all in place. Now, of course, I > see I'm at 99% usage on / so am going to run into trouble in the > future if I keep installing new toys. :-) > > So if you have lots of disc space and want to experiment with > different distros, a separate home partition might be useful. At > this stage, though, I'd suggest you do the simple thing and have one > filesystem partition. this is exactally the sort of setup i've got in place, too. i used to have extra partitions floating around in /share or something, but came to the conclussion the majority of my stuff is in /home, or should be (since it relates to me as a user, not the system). but to the original poster, you're probably not going to have any problems with just using one partition - doing so certainly isn't going to land you in a position further down the track where you might regret it. cheers! > > Oh, and watch out for older Unix manuals that propose various interesting > schemes (e.g. separate partitions for /usr, /var and so forth). All great fun, > and possibly useful for large production multi-user environments, but irrelevant > for modern home use. > > -- > Jim Hague - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Work), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Play) > Never trust a computer you can't lift or you don't control. > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug > -- Damien Elmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Multiple Partitions
Except for one thing. If you change config files in /etc or /var then you tend to loose them when you upgrade, or wipe and reinstall, and you forget what changes you made and might want to redo. I create a smallish /usr/local partition and a /home partition. The /usr/local partition is then subdir'd with etc, var, var/named, etc. and any changed config files get mv'd into there and symlinked back to where they came from. That way I don't lose my dhcpd.conf or named files when I do a wipe and reinstall. On 30 Nov 2001, Damien Elmes wrote: > > but to the original poster, you're probably not going to have any > problems with just using one partition - doing so certainly isn't > going to land you in a position further down the track where you might > regret it. > > cheers! -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people Contact detail at http://www.lannetlinux.com "We are either doing something, or we are not. 'Talking about' is a subset of 'not'." -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Multiple Partitions
Howard Lowndes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Except for one thing. > > If you change config files in /etc or /var then you tend to loose them > when you upgrade, or wipe and reinstall, and you forget what changes you > made and might want to redo. > > I create a smallish /usr/local partition and a /home partition. The > /usr/local partition is then subdir'd with etc, var, var/named, etc. and > any changed config files get mv'd into there and symlinked back to where > they came from. That way I don't lose my dhcpd.conf or named files when I > do a wipe and reinstall. Hmm, you could equally argue that it would cause more problems than it's worth, what with old copies of certain configuration files lying around. I always make a put of backing up /etc and the .files in my home directory; I just don't see how its justified making another partition for it (they don't amount to much and thus aren't hard to keep over a reformat of the disk) Although I guess if you don't have access to backup media or another computer, it may just come in handy! YMMV :-) Cheers! -- Damien Elmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Documenting code logic
This sounds to me that this should be part of an analyse and design document.. I dont see any pareticular problem to have tools to do it: from vi to whater office_like stuffs. Schematic can be done from some prgm like magick draw.. Most of the companies i worked for, even if using unices as dev platform and target platform, uses office/word/visio/rationnalRose for the design support environement and citrix client to access those ressources.. My 2cent tip. JeF On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Grant Parnell wrote: > This is a case of the aftermath of hacking together stuff for years but > I'm wondering if people have found any decent linux software suited to the > task of documenting existing code logic. > > We've gotten to the stage where we're treading on each other's toes a bit > when it comes to how we thing the algorithms should work. I'm not sure > whether a flow chart or state diagram or something else is most > appropriate. > > For example, allocating stock in a fair way to a purchase order is not as > easy as it sounds. We try to keep the most number of customers happy with > quick turnaround and so far we don't usually bill until we're about to > ship. Things to consider are probably too long to list here but some are > as follows:- > > * do we have all the items on an order right now > * if 3 people order penguins and we have one in stock it goes to the first > one to order it so it should appear 'out of stock' to the other 2 orders. > * if a large shipment of a popular out of stock item is due shortly we can > allow other orders to 'steal' the stock from orders awaiting other long > delay items. > * some customers don't care about turnaround so much as cheap delivery, so > no part shipments for them. > > And that's just a few for the 'Show me orders to do' function. We've got > product management, invoicing, receipting, taxable/non-taxable items, BAS, > shipping calculations, dealer discounts and heaps of other things. > > -- > -- > Web: www.arcadia.au.com/gripz > Phone/fax: 02 4950 1194 > Mobile: 0408 686 201 > > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Multiple NICS under Linux
> -Original Message- > From: Grant Parnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:26 AM > To: Minh Van Le > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SLUG] Multiple NICS under Linux > > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Minh Van Le wrote: > > > Has anybody configured 3 or 4 nics to work under Linux ? Yes I have, Netgear FA310's (PCI), 3com 905's(PCI) or old 3com 509's (ISA) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Documenting code logic
On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 10:33:38PM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > This is a case of the aftermath of hacking together stuff for years but > > I'm wondering if people have found any decent linux software suited to the > > task of documenting existing code logic. > > Ask Mike Lake to give you a rundown on noweb. :) GOTO "Slug Presentations".item[0] :-) Mike -- Money can't buy love, but it improves your bargaining position. -- Christopher Marlowe Michael Lake, University of Technology, Sydney Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 02 9514 1724 Fx: 02 9514 1628 Home: http://www.speleonics.com.au Linux enthusiast, active caver and interested in anything technical. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Multiple NICS under Linux
> > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Minh Van Le wrote: > > > > > Has anybody configured 3 or 4 nics to work under Linux ? Yup, 3 * ne2000, 4 * wd 8003 and 3 * eepro100. All with no dramas (as you'd expect with linux - the I/O babel fish). Cheers -RodT -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Advice on coding in VI ?
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, John Ferlito wrote: > On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 10:09:31PM +1100, Martin wrote: > > $author = "Grant Parnell" ; > > > > so switch to something **cough** mutt **cough** that can use vi... ;) > > It's been a while so I could be mistaken but if you set the EDITOR > environment varibale to vi > eg > export EDITOR=vi > won't pine use vi instead? > > Although mutt is of course the correct solution :) Alright I'll bite, my biggest reason for using pico (I switch between vi and pico a lot) is the auto wordwrap and the paragraph formatter. Is there an easy way to do this in vi? Currently I really like those features when reading/writing email and doing documentation but the majority of other tasks are done with vi, in fact I'll switch editors mid-stream depending on the feature I want at the time. -- -- Web: www.arcadia.au.com/gripz Phone/fax: 02 4950 1194 Mobile: 0408 686 201 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Epson Printer Problem
Besides what Simon Wong says, some printers also have an internal lines per-page setting (although probably more modern ones). Check the manual if you have it, if not do a seach specifying the Epson website, failing that a more extensive search for the setting using www.google.com. This setting is irrelevant if the software on the PC does it, however if you did something like "ls /usr/bin >/dev/lp0" it'll help with that. On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Katie Shannon wrote: > Hello Slug, > I have an old Epson LQ-570+, ESC/P2 dot matrix printer. It is still > a great printer, my daughter uses it for school. The problem we are > having is the printer seems to be set for too many lines per page. The > first page prints out, but the print is close to the page bottom. Then > the next page starts down too low and the bottom of that page prints on > the next page. This gets progressively worse as multiple pages are > printed. The only way we can print multiple page documents is to cue the > printer to print each page separately. My brother suggested that the > lines per page may need resetting. Does that sound like the problem? If > so what is the solution? > Any Help you could offer would be appreciated. > Thanks, > Mrs.Susan Shannon > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- -- Web: www.arcadia.au.com/gripz Phone/fax: 02 4950 1194 Mobile: 0408 686 201 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] OT: Vector data on Sydney CBD
Sounds to me like we need a WAP/SMS accessable GPS database. IE you could SMS your location & description to the service which just puts it in the database, alternately you SMS it a location and it SMSes you back some nearby points. Obviously to cover the cost you'd either need to subscribe or maybe somehow it could be tacked on your phone bill. I don't really know all this GPS stuff. On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Terry Collins wrote: > Jamie Honan wrote: > > > > > I've never understood why cycling groups don't get together > > with a few GPS recievers and make some really nice cycling > > maps. > > Why Not? > > 1) GPS receivers are not accurate enough. > > 2) GPS receivers are not reliable enough. > > 3) GPS receivers have a coverage like mobile phones = big holes. > > 4) GPS receivers do not have the capacity (waypoints) = required laptop. > > 5) Cost - software - very expensive, or Grass > > 6) Cost - labour - who is going to pay the person to process the data? > > > > > For personal use, you could 'screen scrape' some whereis > > queries : e.g. using whitepages. > > Scott Howard might light to post the URL's of the rides he has done > where he has laid GPS data over this style of map. > > On the positive side, someone (apologies forgot where I'm filing stuff) > from Social Change Online is working on a project for online entry of > similar stuff (but it uses very expensive proprietary software). > > > Is anyone interested in this sort of thing? - i.e doing an open source > activity? > > Bicycle Australia (http://www.woa.com.au/ba) has basically decided the > way forward for them is currently just to direct people to existing > commercial maps and later put some maps, as A5 landscape images, onto > WWW pages for people to download and print off themselves. Currently > each would need to be digitized and created as a graphic. It would be > better however, it there was an online GIS system that people could just > create the map they want. > > -- -- Web: www.arcadia.au.com/gripz Phone/fax: 02 4950 1194 Mobile: 0408 686 201 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Multiple NICS under Linux
Regularly. If you are using any ISA cards I have found it useful to list them in lilo.conf As for PCI they are usually allocated in their order down the bus, usually starting nearest the CPU On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Fox, Michael wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Grant Parnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:26 AM > > To: Minh Van Le > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [SLUG] Multiple NICS under Linux > > > > > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Minh Van Le wrote: > > > > > Has anybody configured 3 or 4 nics to work under Linux ? > > Yes I have, Netgear FA310's (PCI), 3com 905's(PCI) or old 3com 509's (ISA) > > -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people Contact detail at http://www.lannetlinux.com "We are either doing something, or we are not. 'Talking about' is a subset of 'not'." -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Offline Email Reading that pre-fetches URL's
I stumbled across the command mail-file yesterday there is no man nor info on this, has anyone used this, does it do the same as metasend ? Chris -Original Message- From: Grant Parnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 7:19 PM To: Mike Holland Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Offline Email Reading that pre-fetches URL's On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Mike Holland wrote: >Whats is a good way to add an attachment to an email from a > script/command-line ? (though I think it would be better as a separate > mail.) man metasend "Crude interface for sending non-text email" -- -- Web: www.arcadia.au.com/gripz Phone/fax: 02 4950 1194 Mobile: 0408 686 201 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Offline Email Reading that pre-fetches URL's
That should have been mail-files also came across http://www.shelldorado.com/scripts/cmds/sendfile which is a script which doesn't require knowing the mime type of the file Chris -Original Message- From: Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 9:17 AM To: 'Grant Parnell'; Mike Holland Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SLUG] Offline Email Reading that pre-fetches URL's I stumbled across the command mail-file yesterday there is no man nor info on this, has anyone used this, does it do the same as metasend ? Chris -Original Message- From: Grant Parnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 7:19 PM To: Mike Holland Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Offline Email Reading that pre-fetches URL's On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Mike Holland wrote: >Whats is a good way to add an attachment to an email from a > script/command-line ? (though I think it would be better as a separate > mail.) man metasend "Crude interface for sending non-text email" -- -- Web: www.arcadia.au.com/gripz Phone/fax: 02 4950 1194 Mobile: 0408 686 201 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Parallel port Zip devices
You do have parallel port support in kernel right?
> -Original Message-
> From: DaZZa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 9:24 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [SLUG] Parallel port Zip devices
>
>
> Folks.
>
> SWMBO has requested that I attempt to get her {borrowed}
> parallel port Zip
> drive working on my Linux box because {of course} it won;t
> work properly
> on her NT machine.
>
> Now the HOWTO is fairly clear - as long as SCSI support is
> enabled, and
> parallel port support is enabled you just insmod ppa and bobs
> your uncle.
>
> However, I get the following when I attempt to insmod ppa
>
> [path_to_module]/ppa.o: unresolved symbol parport_unregister_device
> [path_to_module]/ppa.o: unresolved symbol parport_enumerate
>
> etc etc - without the path stuff, the other unresolved symbols are
>
> parport_register_device
> parport_claim
> parport_release
>
> Is there some other module I should be loading before ppa.o?
> I've tried
> loading modules parport.o and paride.o, but when I do that
> and try to load
> ppa I get an error about device or resource busy.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> DaZZa
>
>
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Re: [SLUG] Parallel port Zip devices
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 10:23:33AM +1100, DaZZa wrote: > However, I get the following when I attempt to insmod ppa > > [path_to_module]/ppa.o: unresolved symbol parport_unregister_device > [path_to_module]/ppa.o: unresolved symbol parport_enumerate > > etc etc - without the path stuff, the other unresolved symbols are > > parport_register_device > parport_claim > parport_release These symbols are all defined in parport.o. Maybe your module dependencies are screwed up; try running `depmod -A' before installing ppa. Cheers, John -- whois [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key id: 0xD59C360F -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Parallel port Zip devices
> Nope. No good. And if I insmod parport.o before insmod ppa.o it fails. > > DaZZa Try modprobe instead of insmod? dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Parallel port Zip devices
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 10:40:01AM +1100, DaZZa wrote: > > These symbols are all defined in parport.o. Maybe your module > > dependencies are screwed up; try running `depmod -A' before installing > > ppa. > > Nope. No good. And if I insmod parport.o before insmod ppa.o it fails. OK. Now try loading it with `modprobe ppa'. Cheers, John -- whois [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key id: 0xD59C360F -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] SAMBA question
I have a box (A) configured as a Samba server with the Wins option enabled and the name resolution order set to "wins lmhosts bcast". On this same box I have a /etc/lmhosts file with a resolution to a box (B) that I am trying to reach on another subnet. When I try to look (smbclient -L B) at B from A it won't find it because the address translation is not in /var/locks/samba/wins.dat. Fair enough, but why is it not then trying the /etc/lmhosts lookup. I realise the bcast won't work as it is across a different subnet. If I try smbclient -L 192.168.129.129 then that will work. -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people Contact detail at http://www.lannetlinux.com "We are either doing something, or we are not. 'Talking about' is a subset of 'not'." -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Parallel port Zip devices
On Fri, 2001-11-30 at 10:23, DaZZa wrote: > Now the HOWTO is fairly clear - as long as SCSI support is enabled, and > parallel port support is enabled you just insmod ppa and bobs your uncle. Shot in the dark, but I need SCSI disk support for my USB zip drive. Do you have that there as well? Cheers, -- Peter Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Advice on coding in VI ?
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 07:09:25AM +1100, Grant Parnell wrote: > Alright I'll bite, my biggest reason for using pico (I switch between > vi and pico a lot) is the auto wordwrap and the paragraph formatter. > Is there an easy way to do this in vi? Currently I really like those > features when reading/writing email and doing documentation but the > majority of other tasks are done with vi, in fact I'll switch editors > mid-stream depending on the feature I want at the time. To enable auto word wrap you need to do a :set tw=72 ie set the textwidth to 72 characters. or put it on your .vimrc without the : auto formating you can do in command mode with gqap there's probably a shorter way of doing it or you can probably alias it to something shorter but I've never looked into it. -- John Ferlito Senior Engineer Bulletproof Networks ph: +61 (0) 2 9663 9000 fax: +61 (0) 2 9662 4744 mob: +61 (0) 410 519 382 http://www.bulletproof.net.au/ This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be legally privileged. Only the intended recipient may access or use it and no confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by mistaken transmission. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy or disclose this email's contents to any person and you must delete it and notify us immediately. Bulletproof Networks uses virus scanning software but excludes all liability for viruses or similar in any attachment as well as for any error or incompleteness in the contents of this e-mail. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] SAMBA question
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 10:49:57AM +1100, Howard Lowndes wrote: > I have a box (A) configured as a Samba server with the Wins option enabled > and the name resolution order set to "wins lmhosts bcast". On this same > box I have a /etc/lmhosts file with a resolution to a box (B) that I am > trying to reach on another subnet. > > When I try to look (smbclient -L B) at B from A it won't find it because > the address translation is not in /var/locks/samba/wins.dat. > > Fair enough, but why is it not then trying the /etc/lmhosts lookup. I > realise the bcast won't work as it is across a different subnet. > > If I try smbclient -L 192.168.129.129 then that will work. Check if this works smbclient -L B -R lmhosts forces smbclient to use lmhosts Also on my system it should be /etc/samba/lmhosts basically it should be in the same dir as smb.conf you might want to double check that as well. > > -- > Howard. > LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people > Contact detail at http://www.lannetlinux.com > "We are either doing something, or we are not. > 'Talking about' is a subset of 'not'." > > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- John Ferlito Senior Engineer Bulletproof Networks ph: +61 (0) 2 9663 9000 fax: +61 (0) 2 9662 4744 mob: +61 (0) 410 519 382 http://www.bulletproof.net.au/ This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be legally privileged. Only the intended recipient may access or use it and no confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by mistaken transmission. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy or disclose this email's contents to any person and you must delete it and notify us immediately. Bulletproof Networks uses virus scanning software but excludes all liability for viruses or similar in any attachment as well as for any error or incompleteness in the contents of this e-mail. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] SAMBA question
One large beer owed if I ever meet up with you John. Tks. (8-) On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, John Ferlito wrote: > Also on my system it should be /etc/samba/lmhosts basically it should be > in the same dir as smb.conf you might want to double check that as well. -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people Contact detail at http://www.lannetlinux.com "We are either doing something, or we are not. 'Talking about' is a subset of 'not'." -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Parallel port Zip devices
On 30 Nov 2001, Peter Hardy wrote: > On Fri, 2001-11-30 at 10:23, DaZZa wrote: > > Now the HOWTO is fairly clear - as long as SCSI support is enabled, and > > parallel port support is enabled you just insmod ppa and bobs your uncle. > > Shot in the dark, but I need SCSI disk support for my USB zip drive. Do > you have that there as well? yup. It's available as a module. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Parallel port Zip devices
This one time, at band camp, DaZZa wrote: >However, I get the following when I attempt to insmod ppa If you use 'modprobe' instead of 'insmod' do you still get the unresolved symbols? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://spacepants.org/jaq.gpg HE'S OUT TO GET YOU AND DEFACE YOUR NAME LIEDRA: CLEARLY THAT'S THE ANSWER. SOMEONE'S ALREADY H4X0R3D J00R CAPS LOCK!!!111 -- #slug/OPN -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] M$ wants the 'help' charities with software
Dear list, This is a letter sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] They are trying to arrange 'around table' discussion, see below. - "Huta, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Attention Richard Hayes - Re: Free Computers - Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:41:37 +1100 Hi Richard The National Office for the Information economy has recently been invited to a Microsoft eMpower roundtable meeting on 'Personal Computer Donation and Refurbishment' to be held on the 7th December 2001. The meeting has been convened by Microsoft to seek advice on the development of a new program to enable the charitable donation of second hand PCs to disadvantaged organisations and individuals. I am a member of the neat listserv and saw your posting advertising computerbank's donation program. ( NOIE is aware of the Computerbank initiative and links to your site are located on the NOIE wedsite) I feel is would be very useful for Computerbank to have a representative at the eMpower meeting (if that is not already the case) and encourage you to contact eMpower to this end. The contact person for the roundtable is Barbara Bridges [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel (02) 9360 1966 or fax (02) 9361 6698 I hope you find this information useful and suggest that at the conference you also make contact Peter Huta, Manager, Community Connectivity, who will be NOIE's representative. NOIE is presently investigating how government could assist in facilitating in the second hand donation of computers and computer equipment to recycling organisations. Regards Jo Cruickshank Jo Cruickshank Policy Adviser Community Access National Office for the Information Economy p (02) 6271 1005 f (02) 6271 1098 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Advice on coding in VI ?
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 10:58:35AM +1100, John Ferlito wrote: > To enable auto word wrap you need to do a > :set tw=72 > ie set the textwidth to 72 characters. or put it on your .vimrc without > the : I setup mutt to use the editor: set editor='vim '+/$' -c "set tw=72"' This way I wrap at 72 for email, but not for general editing in vim. > auto formating you can do in command mode with gqap there's probably a > shorter way of doing it or you can probably alias it to something > shorter but I've never looked into it. In my vimrc: " Formatting the current paragraph according to " the current 'textwidth' with ^J (control-j): imap gqap nmap gqap vmap gq Then I just user ^J to reformat. I'm pretty sure both tips I picked up from SLUG, so it's nice to see 'em returned :) -- Andrew Shipton - http://www.careless.net/andrew/ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity."-- Dave Barry -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Module: unix.o and ksymoops
Afternoon, I am trying to understand what the unix.o module does (and ksymoops?!). Whenever I boot up I get an error message from insmod(or modprobe, can't remember) about module unix.o and cannot create /var/log/ksymoops/.log because of read-only file system. I looked in /var/log/ksymoops and it seems to be a list of logs of module insertion but there are NO .log files only .modules and .ksyms files. This doesn't normally seem to cause a prob, however, I tried not loading unix.o and I get an unbootable system that gets stuck in an endless loop printing an error: modprobe: modprobe: cannot create /var/log/ksymoops/20011130.log Read-only file system Which is similar to the normal error but causes an endless loop. I haven't found any understandable info on kysmoops so maybe someone can enlighten me. Earlier in the year this caused me to have to reinstall but am pleased to say I can at least rectify the problem without resorting to such measures. Thanks in no small part to The List :-) I am looking to upgrade to 2.4.x (10?) kernel and don't want to have problems with loading modules during the upgrade. Also, can someone give me some pointers on modules compilation? After make modules; make modules_install; depmod -a Do I need to do update-modules? Is that what may have caused me problems? TIA. -- ** * Simon Wong * ** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Parallel port Zip devices
Folks.
SWMBO has requested that I attempt to get her {borrowed} parallel port Zip
drive working on my Linux box because {of course} it won;t work properly
on her NT machine.
Now the HOWTO is fairly clear - as long as SCSI support is enabled, and
parallel port support is enabled you just insmod ppa and bobs your uncle.
However, I get the following when I attempt to insmod ppa
[path_to_module]/ppa.o: unresolved symbol parport_unregister_device
[path_to_module]/ppa.o: unresolved symbol parport_enumerate
etc etc - without the path stuff, the other unresolved symbols are
parport_register_device
parport_claim
parport_release
Is there some other module I should be loading before ppa.o? I've tried
loading modules parport.o and paride.o, but when I do that and try to load
ppa I get an error about device or resource busy.
What am I doing wrong?
DaZZa
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RE: [SLUG] Parallel port Zip devices
On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Fox, Michael wrote: > You do have parallel port support in kernel right? As a module, yes. The parport.o module loads fine. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Parallel port Zip devices
On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, John Clarke wrote: > > [path_to_module]/ppa.o: unresolved symbol parport_unregister_device > > [path_to_module]/ppa.o: unresolved symbol parport_enumerate > > > > etc etc - without the path stuff, the other unresolved symbols are > > > > parport_register_device > > parport_claim > > parport_release > > These symbols are all defined in parport.o. Maybe your module > dependencies are screwed up; try running `depmod -A' before installing > ppa. Nope. No good. And if I insmod parport.o before insmod ppa.o it fails. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] M$ wants the 'help' charities with software
On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 15:20, Jon Austin wrote: > Pretty misleading subject you have there. From the forwarded > message it looks like MS are developing a program for > donating HARDWARE, not software. =) I hope you are right but I think it is alot closer to the proposed settlement of the private Anti-trust action. ie MS donates $1 billion worth of software. > Is the Newtown project still in need of volunteers? I emailed > [EMAIL PROTECTED] but am unsure of who is the best contact. Yes, he is the best contact. regards, Richard -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] M$ wants the 'help' charities with software
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 02:04:28PM +1100, Richard Hayes wrote: > Dear list, > > This is a letter sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > They are trying to arrange 'around table' discussion, see below. Very interesting ... Most of us here would agree that free software is a more appropriate empowering solution for charity groups. What avenues are there for local free software community groups (eg. the LUGs and BSD users groups, Linux Australia and AUUG) to be involved in the NOIE community access discussions? Conrad. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Help!-Linux on libretto
Hello to the list, i've just relocated from the Uk and decided to stick debian on my toshiba libretto. Anyway the day I get hold of a debian CD windo$e just flatlines the whole system-Big Style (Cue Omen music). As all of the peripherals are through the PC card slot I can't get hold of an installer or root rescue floppy (no problem with that, set in bios) that has the drivers installed for the CD drive. Unfortunately whilst there is a bios update that allows users to boot off CDRom it's for windows only not DOS, I thought of going through serial but my powerbook doesn't have serial on it even if I could work out how to PPP to the mac cdrom. I'm a bit stuck without any resources over here and wondered if anyone had any ideas or a custom adapter to slot the IDE drive into an existing system and just reformat the whole drive and install/rebuild with necessary services. I've tried everything I could think of so far but am now stuck. Any suggestions greatly appreciated. Cheers Chris P.S thought i'd turn up to the slug tonight, no doubt see some of you there. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Help!-Linux on libretto
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 05:48:53AM +, chris ord wrote: > I'm a bit stuck without any resources over here and wondered if anyone had > any ideas or a custom adapter to slot the IDE drive into an existing system You can get a mini-IDE to IDE adapter which will let you put a laptop hard disc into a desktop PC. I bought mine at David Reid Electronics in York St for about $15. Cheers, John -- whois [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key id: 0xD59C360F -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
