RE: [SLUG] Suspect Claims Al Qaeda Hacked Microsoft
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, George Vieira wrote: > yeah it is.. it take 10% of your bandwidth and spams microsoft with info. > > I might start a GUI OS company called bighard. from nslookup: Non-authoritative answer: Name:bighard.com Address: 209.67.60.72 Non-authoritative answer: Name:macrorigid.com Address: 164.109.18.251 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Suspect Claims Al Qaeda Hacked Microsoft
yeah it is.. it take 10% of your bandwidth and spams microsoft with info. I might start a GUI OS company called bighard. thanks, George Vieira Systems Manager Citadel Computer Systems P/L -Original Message- From: Jon Biddell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2001 4:42 PM To: Jason Rennie Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Suspect Claims Al Qaeda Hacked Microsoft On Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 05:26:17PM +1100, Jason Rennie wrote: > > During interrogation, Afroze, 25, also claimed that a member or members of > > Osama bin Laden's Al Qaeda network, posing as computer programmers, were > > able to gain employment at Microsoft and attempted to plant "trojans, > > trapdoors, and bugs in Windows XP," according to Ravi Visvesvaraya Prasad, > > a New Delhi information systems and telecommunication consultant. > > But the real question is, who would notice ? I thought XP *was* a virus ? Jon -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Suspect Claims Al Qaeda Hacked Microsoft
On Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 05:26:17PM +1100, Jason Rennie wrote: > > During interrogation, Afroze, 25, also claimed that a member or members of > > Osama bin Laden's Al Qaeda network, posing as computer programmers, were > > able to gain employment at Microsoft and attempted to plant "trojans, > > trapdoors, and bugs in Windows XP," according to Ravi Visvesvaraya Prasad, > > a New Delhi information systems and telecommunication consultant. > > But the real question is, who would notice ? I thought XP *was* a virus ? Jon -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] libraries
I'd make sure that the path to the libraries are in /etc/ld.so.conf If not I'd add the path and run ldconfig If the path exists then ignore the above and maybe do what Booth suggests. -- -Original Message- From: Christopher Booth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2001 9:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] libraries Force it and then reinstall the newer one using --force (not upgrade). Chris On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 00:11:43 +1100 (EST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm hopeless with libraries. > > Whilst trying to set up evolution I got libgnomeprint.so.2 is required by > bonobo-conf and libgnomeprint.so.15 is required by blah blah blah. > > If I try install these rpm for so.# found with google gnome-print > won't let me due to a newer package allready > installed i.e.(gnome-print-0.25-9). > > What do I do? > > force it? > > symlink each so.# to some other so.# > > -- > > -- > Antony Clarke > > A committee is a cul-de-sac down which ideas are lured then > quitely strangled > Sir Barnett Cocks > > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug Searching for "A Better Way" to a home loan ?. Call RAMS on 13 7267, or go to http://www.rams.com.au The e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential information. If you receive it in error you must not use or disclose the information. You must tell us and delete it. We do not waive any legal privilege by sending it. RAMS does not promise that the email is free from virus defect or error. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Suspect Claims Al Qaeda Hacked Microsoft
> During interrogation, Afroze, 25, also claimed that a member or members of > Osama bin Laden's Al Qaeda network, posing as computer programmers, were > able to gain employment at Microsoft and attempted to plant "trojans, > trapdoors, and bugs in Windows XP," according to Ravi Visvesvaraya Prasad, > a New Delhi information systems and telecommunication consultant. But the real question is, who would notice ? Jason -- Hofstadter's Law : "It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take Hofstadter's Law into account." -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Video problem
Hi, We have just bee trying to install RH7.1 on an old and venerable HP Netserver 5/133 LC. This is simply going to be a Linux terminal in the library to run Netscape and very little else. It is an EISA machine with SCSI HDD and CDROM. When we got to selecting a video, we kept getting errors, so we quit, rebooted and tried startx. This failed as it could not find a screen. We tried re-running the install with a different monitor and noticed that as it started there was a message about unknown card and going to text mode. The person working on this has had to go fro the day so we resume in the morning, but I am assuming that the built-in video card is not compatible with Linux and so we are going to try installing another one. Does this seem a reasonable assumption? Simon Bryan -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] root in /etc/group
when root can access any user's files, whats the point in putting root in the individual groups. /etc/group: bin:x:1:root,bin,daemon daemon:x:2:root,bin,daemon sys:x:3:root,bin,adm adm:x:4:root,adm,daemon tty:x:5: disk:x:6:root -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] How to trace a package configuration error?
On Tue, 2001-12-18 at 12:02, Steve Kowalik wrote: > Okay, what you can do is edit the postinst script in > /var/lib/dpkg/info/irda-common.postinst and put a 'set -x' in it, after the > shebang line. You can use that to file a nice bug report. Thanks a lot Steve :-) I did that and discovered that it was stopping at the point where it was trying to execute /etc/init.d/irda which I had moved to irda.disabled so it couldn't find it. It's fixed now...thanks! -- ** * Simon Wong * ** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] subracting dates from dates
OK.. I figure some things out and this is really messy I know but at least
it works for me...
print "Content-type: text/plain\n\n";
if ( "$in{eventdate}" !~ /^[0-9]+[\/]+[0-9]+[\/]+[0-9]+[0-9]+[0-9]+[0-9]$/
){
print "TBA";
exit(0);
}
else
{
$date=$in{eventdate};
$event=`date -d \"$date\" +\"%s\"`;
$nowdate=`date +"%s"`;
$daysleft=int (eval ((( $event - $nowdate ) / 86400 )));
print "$daysleft";
}
Thanks for all your help.. will try the full perl when I get around to it..
George Vieira
Systems Manager
Citadel Computer Systems P/L
-Original Message-
From: George Vieira
Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2001 1:02 PM
To: Sydney Linux Users Group (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [SLUG] subracting dates from dates
Thanks to all that replied..
I found a way to do it in bash but now want to use perl to check the passed
in date for it's format ie... mm/dd/ format.
I'd be happy with just 00-99 numbers..
At the moment I've done this (below) in shell commands in perl but wanted to
pass in $date is possible and checked too for errors.. I've taken a big
guess and tried it.. it seems to work (OMG) but would like suggestions...
# This part was original test and works but want $in{eventdate} to replace
$date
$date=02/23/2002";
$event=`date -d "\$date" +"%s"`;
$nowdate=`date +"%s"`;
$daysleft=`echo "$((($event - $nowdate) / 86400 ))"`;
if ( "$in{eventdate}" !~ /^[0-9]+[\/]+[0-9]+[\/]+[-]+$/ ){
print <<"EOT";
Content-type: text/plain
Invalid Date Format with $in{eventdate}
EOT
exit(0);
}
else
{ print "$in{eventdate} is just fine";
any help with this I appreciate it.
thanks,
George Vieira
Systems Manager
Citadel Computer Systems P/L
-Original Message-
From: Tony Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2001 12:00 PM
To: Sydney Linux Users Group (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [SLUG] subracting dates from dates
* This one time, at band camp, George Vieira said:
> Hi all,
>
> Is there a way to subtract the number of days remaining from a date so I
can
> report back "125 days remaining" etc.. under linux/perl?
>
> I want to subtract it from a date which will be a special event etc..
> Is there a date to interger conversion or something?
>
If your dates are in Epoch seconds, and fall in the range Fri Dec 13
20:45:52 1901 to Tue Jan 19 03:14:07 2038 (inclusive), simply subtract one
from the other and convert the seconds to days.
$seconds = $recent - $earlier;
If you have distinct DMYMHS values, or are worried about the range
limitations of Epoch seconds, use the Date::Calc module from CPAN. It can
calculate the difference between dates:
use Date::Calc qw(Delta_Days);
$days = Delta_Days( $year1, $month1, $day1, $year2, $month2, $day2);
It also calculates the difference between dates and times:
use Date::Calc qw(Delta_DHMS);
($days, $hours, $minutes, $seconds) =
Delta_DHMS( $year1, $month1, $day1, $hour1, $minute1, $seconds1, #
earlier
$year2, $month2, $day2, $hour2, $minute2, $seconds2); # later
Discussion
One problem with Epoch seconds is how to convert the large integers back to
forms that people can read. The following example shows one way of
converting an Epoch seconds value back to its component numbers of weeks,
days, hours, minutes, and seconds:
$bree = 361535725; # 16 Jun 1981, 4:35:25
$nat = 96201950; # 18 Jan 1973, 3:45:50
$difference = $bree - $nat;
print "There were $difference seconds between Nat and Bree\n";
There were 265333775 seconds between Nat and Bree
$seconds= $difference % 60;
$difference = ($difference - $seconds) / 60;
$minutes= $difference % 60;
$difference = ($difference - $minutes) / 60;
$hours = $difference % 24;
$difference = ($difference - $hours) / 24;
$days = $difference % 7;
$weeks = ($difference - $days)/ 7;
print "($weeks weeks, $days days, $hours:$minutes:$seconds)\n";
(438 weeks, 4 days, 23:49:35)
Date::Calc's functions can ease these calculations. The Delta_Days function
returns the number of days between two dates. It takes the two dates as a
list: year, month, day. The dates are given chronologically - earliest
first.
use Date::Calc qw(Delta_Days);
@bree = (1981, 6, 16); # 16 Jun 1981
@nat = (1973, 1, 18); # 18 Jan 1973
$difference = Delta_Days(@nat, @bree);
print "There were $difference days between Nat and Bree\n";
There were 3071 days between Nat and Bree
The Delta_DHMS function returns a four-element list corresponding to the
number of days, hours, minutes, and seconds between the two dates you give
it.
use Date::Calc qw(Delta_DHMS);
@bree = (1981, 6, 16, 4, 35, 25); # 16 Jun 1981, 4:35:25
@nat = (1973, 1, 18, 3, 45, 50); # 18 Jan 1973, 3:45:50
@diff = Delta_DHMS(@nat, @bree);
print "Bree came $diff[0] days, $diff[1]:$diff[2]:$diff[3] after Nat\n";
Bree came 3071 days, 0:49:35 after Nat
See Also
The documentation for the CPAN module Date::Calc
--
Greeno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
GnuPG Key : 1024D/B5657C8B
Key fing
RE: [SLUG] subracting dates from dates
Thanks to all that replied..
I found a way to do it in bash but now want to use perl to check the passed
in date for it's format ie... mm/dd/ format.
I'd be happy with just 00-99 numbers..
At the moment I've done this (below) in shell commands in perl but wanted to
pass in $date is possible and checked too for errors.. I've taken a big
guess and tried it.. it seems to work (OMG) but would like suggestions...
# This part was original test and works but want $in{eventdate} to replace
$date
$date=02/23/2002";
$event=`date -d "\$date" +"%s"`;
$nowdate=`date +"%s"`;
$daysleft=`echo "$((($event - $nowdate) / 86400 ))"`;
if ( "$in{eventdate}" !~ /^[0-9]+[\/]+[0-9]+[\/]+[-]+$/ ){
print <<"EOT";
Content-type: text/plain
Invalid Date Format with $in{eventdate}
EOT
exit(0);
}
else
{ print "$in{eventdate} is just fine";
any help with this I appreciate it.
thanks,
George Vieira
Systems Manager
Citadel Computer Systems P/L
-Original Message-
From: Tony Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2001 12:00 PM
To: Sydney Linux Users Group (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [SLUG] subracting dates from dates
* This one time, at band camp, George Vieira said:
> Hi all,
>
> Is there a way to subtract the number of days remaining from a date so I
can
> report back "125 days remaining" etc.. under linux/perl?
>
> I want to subtract it from a date which will be a special event etc..
> Is there a date to interger conversion or something?
>
If your dates are in Epoch seconds, and fall in the range Fri Dec 13
20:45:52 1901 to Tue Jan 19 03:14:07 2038 (inclusive), simply subtract one
from the other and convert the seconds to days.
$seconds = $recent - $earlier;
If you have distinct DMYMHS values, or are worried about the range
limitations of Epoch seconds, use the Date::Calc module from CPAN. It can
calculate the difference between dates:
use Date::Calc qw(Delta_Days);
$days = Delta_Days( $year1, $month1, $day1, $year2, $month2, $day2);
It also calculates the difference between dates and times:
use Date::Calc qw(Delta_DHMS);
($days, $hours, $minutes, $seconds) =
Delta_DHMS( $year1, $month1, $day1, $hour1, $minute1, $seconds1, #
earlier
$year2, $month2, $day2, $hour2, $minute2, $seconds2); # later
Discussion
One problem with Epoch seconds is how to convert the large integers back to
forms that people can read. The following example shows one way of
converting an Epoch seconds value back to its component numbers of weeks,
days, hours, minutes, and seconds:
$bree = 361535725; # 16 Jun 1981, 4:35:25
$nat = 96201950; # 18 Jan 1973, 3:45:50
$difference = $bree - $nat;
print "There were $difference seconds between Nat and Bree\n";
There were 265333775 seconds between Nat and Bree
$seconds= $difference % 60;
$difference = ($difference - $seconds) / 60;
$minutes= $difference % 60;
$difference = ($difference - $minutes) / 60;
$hours = $difference % 24;
$difference = ($difference - $hours) / 24;
$days = $difference % 7;
$weeks = ($difference - $days)/ 7;
print "($weeks weeks, $days days, $hours:$minutes:$seconds)\n";
(438 weeks, 4 days, 23:49:35)
Date::Calc's functions can ease these calculations. The Delta_Days function
returns the number of days between two dates. It takes the two dates as a
list: year, month, day. The dates are given chronologically - earliest
first.
use Date::Calc qw(Delta_Days);
@bree = (1981, 6, 16); # 16 Jun 1981
@nat = (1973, 1, 18); # 18 Jan 1973
$difference = Delta_Days(@nat, @bree);
print "There were $difference days between Nat and Bree\n";
There were 3071 days between Nat and Bree
The Delta_DHMS function returns a four-element list corresponding to the
number of days, hours, minutes, and seconds between the two dates you give
it.
use Date::Calc qw(Delta_DHMS);
@bree = (1981, 6, 16, 4, 35, 25); # 16 Jun 1981, 4:35:25
@nat = (1973, 1, 18, 3, 45, 50); # 18 Jan 1973, 3:45:50
@diff = Delta_DHMS(@nat, @bree);
print "Bree came $diff[0] days, $diff[1]:$diff[2]:$diff[3] after Nat\n";
Bree came 3071 days, 0:49:35 after Nat
See Also
The documentation for the CPAN module Date::Calc
--
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Key fingerprint = 9ED8 59CC C161 B857 462E 51E6 7DFB 465B B565 7C8B
Imagine working in a secure environment and finding the string
_NSAKEY in the OS binaries without a good explanation
-Alan Cox 04/05/2001
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Re: [SLUG] subracting dates from dates
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 11:47:57 +1100 George Vieira wrote: > Is there a way to subtract the number of days remaining from a date so I can > report back "125 days remaining" etc.. under linux/perl? you may also find Class::Date useful. ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/perl/CPAN/authors/id/D/DL/DLUX/Class-Date-1.0.8.tar.gz -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] How to trace a package configuration error?
At 11:22 am, Tuesday, December 18 2001, Simon Wong mumbled: > Just upgraded some packages from unstable and had a problem with > irda-common not configuring. > > I tried dpkg --configure --pending but same error. > > Could someone give me a tip on how to trace what is going wrong during > the configuration (before I think about a bug report)? > Okay, what you can do is edit the postinst script in /var/lib/dpkg/info/irda-common.postinst and put a 'set -x' in it, after the shebang line. You can use that to file a nice bug report. -- Steve Why is it called "common sense" when nobody seems to have any? msg18682/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [SLUG] subracting dates from dates
* This one time, at band camp, George Vieira said: > Hi all, > > Is there a way to subtract the number of days remaining from a date so I can > report back "125 days remaining" etc.. under linux/perl? > > I want to subtract it from a date which will be a special event etc.. > Is there a date to interger conversion or something? > If your dates are in Epoch seconds, and fall in the range Fri Dec 13 20:45:52 1901 to Tue Jan 19 03:14:07 2038 (inclusive), simply subtract one from the other and convert the seconds to days. $seconds = $recent - $earlier; If you have distinct DMYMHS values, or are worried about the range limitations of Epoch seconds, use the Date::Calc module from CPAN. It can calculate the difference between dates: use Date::Calc qw(Delta_Days); $days = Delta_Days( $year1, $month1, $day1, $year2, $month2, $day2); It also calculates the difference between dates and times: use Date::Calc qw(Delta_DHMS); ($days, $hours, $minutes, $seconds) = Delta_DHMS( $year1, $month1, $day1, $hour1, $minute1, $seconds1, # earlier $year2, $month2, $day2, $hour2, $minute2, $seconds2); # later Discussion One problem with Epoch seconds is how to convert the large integers back to forms that people can read. The following example shows one way of converting an Epoch seconds value back to its component numbers of weeks, days, hours, minutes, and seconds: $bree = 361535725; # 16 Jun 1981, 4:35:25 $nat = 96201950; # 18 Jan 1973, 3:45:50 $difference = $bree - $nat; print "There were $difference seconds between Nat and Bree\n"; There were 265333775 seconds between Nat and Bree $seconds= $difference % 60; $difference = ($difference - $seconds) / 60; $minutes= $difference % 60; $difference = ($difference - $minutes) / 60; $hours = $difference % 24; $difference = ($difference - $hours) / 24; $days = $difference % 7; $weeks = ($difference - $days)/ 7; print "($weeks weeks, $days days, $hours:$minutes:$seconds)\n"; (438 weeks, 4 days, 23:49:35) Date::Calc's functions can ease these calculations. The Delta_Days function returns the number of days between two dates. It takes the two dates as a list: year, month, day. The dates are given chronologically - earliest first. use Date::Calc qw(Delta_Days); @bree = (1981, 6, 16); # 16 Jun 1981 @nat = (1973, 1, 18); # 18 Jan 1973 $difference = Delta_Days(@nat, @bree); print "There were $difference days between Nat and Bree\n"; There were 3071 days between Nat and Bree The Delta_DHMS function returns a four-element list corresponding to the number of days, hours, minutes, and seconds between the two dates you give it. use Date::Calc qw(Delta_DHMS); @bree = (1981, 6, 16, 4, 35, 25); # 16 Jun 1981, 4:35:25 @nat = (1973, 1, 18, 3, 45, 50); # 18 Jan 1973, 3:45:50 @diff = Delta_DHMS(@nat, @bree); print "Bree came $diff[0] days, $diff[1]:$diff[2]:$diff[3] after Nat\n"; Bree came 3071 days, 0:49:35 after Nat See Also The documentation for the CPAN module Date::Calc -- Greeno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GnuPG Key : 1024D/B5657C8B Key fingerprint = 9ED8 59CC C161 B857 462E 51E6 7DFB 465B B565 7C8B Imagine working in a secure environment and finding the string _NSAKEY in the OS binaries without a good explanation -Alan Cox 04/05/2001 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] subracting dates from dates
on Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 11:47:57AM +1100, George Vieira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > Is there a way to subtract the number of days remaining from a date so I can > report back "125 days remaining" etc.. under linux/perl? > > I want to subtract it from a date which will be a special event etc.. > Is there a date to interger conversion or something? This can be done using the C routines that are found in time.h. I found a very useful shell impleamentation of the C routines called mktime, you may have trouble finding this. This gives you a mktime command that you can run and you can do excactly what you want. BB -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] X WM discrepancy weirdness ...
... it probably won't be weirdness when someone explains it, but right now, it is! I'm looking at switching to blackbox WM and was trying out Acrobat4 reader but I get the following error messages ... X Error of failed request: BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied) Major opcode of failed request: 88 (X_FreeColors) Serial number of failed request: 346 Current serial number in output stream: 347 I was invoking it from the xterm using the path /usr/share/Acrobat4/bin/acroread which is some shell script that does setup stuff, I guess. When I run Gnome, invoking it the same way, it works. Cheers. Jonathan Kelly. Sydney. Australia. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] subracting dates from dates
Hi all, Is there a way to subtract the number of days remaining from a date so I can report back "125 days remaining" etc.. under linux/perl? I want to subtract it from a date which will be a special event etc.. Is there a date to interger conversion or something? thanks, George Vieira Systems Manager Citadel Computer Systems P/L -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] How to trace a package configuration error?
Just upgraded some packages from unstable and had a problem with irda-common not configuring. I tried dpkg --configure --pending but same error. Could someone give me a tip on how to trace what is going wrong during the configuration (before I think about a bug report)? Thanks. Setting up irda-common (0.9.14-16) ... dpkg: error processing irda-common (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: irda-common E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) -- ** * Simon Wong * ** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Evolution
On Tue, 2001-12-18 at 09:37, Serge Krepak wrote: > Is it v 8.1? Whoops, yes I meant 8.1 not 8.2 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Evolution
On Mon, 2001-12-17 at 19:27, Antony Clarke wrote: > Anyone know if you can get Evolution on CD, looked at everythinglinux but no > mention of it. 56k here so downloading is no go. > > I've read that Evolution is a bit unstable without Ximian gnome, has anyone > found this? (Debian-centric response...) You need to be careful about mixing ximian's packages with "standard" gnome debs from debian. Ximian do some "fine tuning" to get the "unstable" gnome stuff to work with the potato (stable) distribution so they are not entirely compatible with non-ximian gnome packages. If you are running potato Ximian is good as they back-port a lot of the new gnome stuff so you cave some bleeding edge fun (and pain) too :-) IMHO they do a darn good job at getting an advanced (GUI) desktop onto the stable distribution, though, I did have some problems with packages occasionally. Some people on the list have some vehement dislike for the Ximian packages. As to where to get it...sorry, can't help but suggest do it overnight or make some friends with faster connections! Good Luck. P.S. Evolution is very well behaved now and during the development I never lost any mail anyway. -- ** * Simon Wong * ** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Evolution
snipped ... > Updating to all the needed Mandrake 8.2 rpms (When I had 7.2), there ^ | Is it v 8.1? http://greetings.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Greetings - Send your festive greetings online! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] libraries
Force it and then reinstall the newer one using --force (not upgrade). Chris On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 00:11:43 +1100 (EST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm hopeless with libraries. > > Whilst trying to set up evolution I got libgnomeprint.so.2 is required by > bonobo-conf and libgnomeprint.so.15 is required by blah blah blah. > > If I try install these rpm for so.# found with google gnome-print > won't let me due to a newer package allready > installed i.e.(gnome-print-0.25-9). > > What do I do? > > force it? > > symlink each so.# to some other so.# > > -- > > -- > Antony Clarke > > A committee is a cul-de-sac down which ideas are lured then > quitely strangled > Sir Barnett Cocks > > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Cable providers
Sylpheed can read them both, though you get a lynx style implementation of html. Good thing is that it is compatible with your mutt mailboxes as well and do news. Quite a decent email client - not perfect, but I still prefer it over evolution. Chris On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 10:42:34 + "Rev Simon Rumble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon 17 Dec, David Kempe made the following spurious claims: > > > Recent SLUG flamewars aside, plain text email is appreciated :) > > What part of this was NOT plain text? > > -> I 2 tq> > [text/plain, 7bit, us-ascii, 0.7K] > > If you're using a mail client that can't automatically select the best > version to view, I suggest you upgrade. I can recommend mutt for > this. The email looked fine to me. > > -- > Rev Simon Rumble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > www.rumble.net > > Inflation is the one form of taxation that can be imposed > without legislation. > > - Milton Friedman > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Linux Pocketbooks
I have been looking for the Linux 7.2 official book in Albury and cannot find it, but a mate of mine has found it in Canberra and is sending me a copy. Does anyone know who is distributing Linux 7.2 to the newsagents, is it Gordon & Gotch? On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Matt - wrote: > Hi group, > > I am wondering if anyone has seen any Linux Pocketbooks > around recently. I have tried several newsagents and many > say they are sold out till some time next year (March?!). > > I have seen similar titles which offer Redhat 7.1 (not 7.2) > and one by Redhat themselves, for $30. > > I have the old pocketbook and I really enjoyed the great > information that came in the book. The price is also quite > good at only $18. Has anyone seen a newsagent that still > stocks these ? :( > > Matt > > _ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people Contact detail at http://www.lannetlinux.com "We are either doing something, or we are not. 'Talking about' is a subset of 'not'." -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Cable providers
Yeah this the funny part about Tel$tra. I can pay _ALL_ my bills over the internet except the actual internet bill itself. Every time I have connection problems they want me to uninstall and reinstall my NIC drivers and PPPoE software. I usually tell them I've done that already, then they ask where does it stop working and depending on the problem/logs I'm having I tell them it's the progress bar times out or authentication problems... hee hee works for me. I think Tel$tras problem is that they have script kiddies working there.. possibly playing CS on their Wireplay network and do maintenance after school which is why it's always down after 5:30pm-6:00pm. They don't do maintenance late at night because these kids have to go to bed. This explains everything to me...see. thanks, George Vieira Systems Manager Citadel Computer Systems P/L -Original Message- From: Erik de Castro Lopo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 17 December 2001 7:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Cable providers On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 18:55:47 +1100 Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I forgot the biggest irony of them all. 10) I cannot pay for the bigpong service over the net, nor via BPay. I have to go to a bloody post office and pay it with eftpos. Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yes it's valid) +---+ "I would rather spend 10 hours reading someone else's source code than 10 minutes listening to Musak waiting for technical support which isn't." - Dr. Greg Wettstein, Roger Maris Cancer Center -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Cable providers
Interesting site - when it works. Mostly it seems to give CFM customised error messages. On 17 Dec 2001, Damien Elmes wrote: > http://whirlpool.net.au -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people Contact detail at http://www.lannetlinux.com "We are either doing something, or we are not. 'Talking about' is a subset of 'not'." -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Samba printer tuncating files
I've set up a PDF printer server using Samba and ps2pdf on one of our servers here at work. My problem is that it seems to be truncating the spooled postscript files. When I print them to a file from my (Windows) machine and then run the script manually, they work fine. When I print through Samba they end at 12 pages or so. Options that might be related: socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_SNDBUF=8192 SO_RCVBUF=8192 max log size = 5000 But I don't think so. So any ideas? I've trawled through all the docs and can't find any option that might be doing it. What's the option I've missed? Here's the printer section: [pdf] path = /tmp printable = yes guest ok = yes print command = /usr/local/bin/pdfprint %s ; There is no need to support listing or removing print jobs, ; since the server begins to process them as soon as they arrive. ; So, we set the lpq (list queued jobs) and lprm (remove jobs in ; queue) ; commands to be empty. lpq command = lprm command = ; We already defined the printer driver definition file above. ; Here we need to specify the entry in that file that should be ; used ; for this printer. printer driver = Apple Color LW 12/660 PS printer driver location = \\%h\printer$ -- Rev Simon Rumble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> www.rumble.net HTML's a cheap whore. Treating her with respect is possible, and even preferable, because once upon a time she was a beautiful and virginal format, but you shouldn't expect too much of her at this point." - Mark "Kamikaze" Hughes -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Linux Pocketbooks
>From a terminal somewhere Matt - wrote: > Hi group, > > I am wondering if anyone has seen any Linux Pocketbooks > around recently. I have tried several newsagents and many > say they are sold out till some time next year (March?!). www.everythinglinux.com.au for distro's > I have seen similar titles which offer Redhat 7.1 (not 7.2) > and one by Redhat themselves, for $30. > > I have the old pocketbook and I really enjoyed the great > information that came in the book. The price is also quite > good at only $18. Has anyone seen a newsagent that still > stocks these ? :( While you are there 'Linux Command Instance reference' will help you a lot more than a pocket book. -- Antony Clarke A committee is a cul-de-sac down which ideas are lured then quitely strangled Sir Barnett Cocks -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Linux Pocketbooks
Hi group, I am wondering if anyone has seen any Linux Pocketbooks around recently. I have tried several newsagents and many say they are sold out till some time next year (March?!). I have seen similar titles which offer Redhat 7.1 (not 7.2) and one by Redhat themselves, for $30. I have the old pocketbook and I really enjoyed the great information that came in the book. The price is also quite good at only $18. Has anyone seen a newsagent that still stocks these ? :( Matt _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] In Car MP3 Players
On Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 12:17:56AM +1100, Craige McWhirter wrote: > On Sat, 2001-12-15 at 13:03, Crossfire wrote: > > > mpg123 is your friend. > > ogg123? ;) > > > If I recall correctly, it can play back full rate on a 486DX2/66, and > > *nearly* full rate on a 486SX/33 (IIRC). I used to use a few > > inventive patches to downmix the audio for my SBPro anyway and that > > just coped with my SX/33 with SBPro. That was a few years ago anyway. > > Yes, spot on. I've also built a juke box on a 486DX4/133 and it plays > quite nicely, even with X running (Oroborus / Deskmenu) and using > Digital DJ with a MySQL back end. Chugs along nicely. mpg321 (and, to a lesser degree, mpg123) absolutely flogged my p166 (they needed to be at -20 to not skip ... most of the time). Admittedly I was running KDE at the time, but hey. Freeamp is much, much less CPU-intensive. Freeamp is good. Unfortunately it's much tighter than mpg(123|321) on broken files (e.g. incomplete/whatever), so you may get it bailing on a few. -- Daniel Stone<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> aaronl, i have this site you should see... lemme guess, goatse.cx? how did you know! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] In Car MP3 Players
On Sat, 2001-12-15 at 13:03, Crossfire wrote: > mpg123 is your friend. ogg123? ;) > If I recall correctly, it can play back full rate on a 486DX2/66, and > *nearly* full rate on a 486SX/33 (IIRC). I used to use a few > inventive patches to downmix the audio for my SBPro anyway and that > just coped with my SX/33 with SBPro. That was a few years ago anyway. Yes, spot on. I've also built a juke box on a 486DX4/133 and it plays quite nicely, even with X running (Oroborus / Deskmenu) and using Digital DJ with a MySQL back end. Chugs along nicely. -- Cheers, Craige. http://mcwhirter.com.au/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] libraries
I'm hopeless with libraries. Whilst trying to set up evolution I got libgnomeprint.so.2 is required by bonobo-conf and libgnomeprint.so.15 is required by blah blah blah. If I try install these rpm for so.# found with google gnome-print won't let me due to a newer package allready installed i.e.(gnome-print-0.25-9). What do I do? force it? symlink each so.# to some other so.# -- -- Antony Clarke A committee is a cul-de-sac down which ideas are lured then quitely strangled Sir Barnett Cocks -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Cable providers
Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 21:34:30 +1100 (EST) > Howard Lowndes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Which doesn't leave much choice if it's the only service available. BTW, > > I don't go much on Flow Comms either, but I don't know how much their > > problem is really Telstra's problem. > > > > Does anyone know about any rumoured DDoS on Telstra recently? > > No, but they let their techos into the machine room last Friday morning for > a 1 hour scheduled outage. It took them till midday to get it > runinng again. http://whirlpool.net.au -- Damien Elmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Cable providers
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 21:34:30 +1100 (EST) Howard Lowndes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Which doesn't leave much choice if it's the only service available. BTW, > I don't go much on Flow Comms either, but I don't know how much their > problem is really Telstra's problem. > > Does anyone know about any rumoured DDoS on Telstra recently? No, but they let their techos into the machine room last Friday morning for a 1 hour scheduled outage. It took them till midday to get it runinng again. Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yes it's valid) +---+ Microsoft owns Hotmail. Hotmail runs Sun Solaris on their servers, not Windows NT. Does NT have problems? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Cable providers
Have you tried 018018008? It certainly works for me with my Telstra account and my BPD account. On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: > On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 18:55:47 +1100 > Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I forgot the biggest irony of them all. > > 10) I cannot pay for the bigpong service over the net, nor via BPay. > I have to go to a bloody post office and pay it with eftpos. > > Erik > -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people Contact detail at http://www.lannetlinux.com "We are either doing something, or we are not. 'Talking about' is a subset of 'not'." -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Evolution
On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 07:27:01PM +1100, Antony Clarke wrote: > Anyone know if you can get Evolution on CD, looked at everythinglinux but no > mention of it. 56k here so downloading is no go. just the evolution (the email bit) .deb is 10Mb. I guess all the other gnome libs add up as well but it's not too enormous. > I've read that Evolution is a bit unstable without Ximian gnome, has anyone > found this? if you mean the whole ximian thing rather than just evolution, no. My machine at work is RH 6.2 (cos I haven't got round to changing it!) with gnome and enlightenment. The sysadmin guy at work just installed the following rpms on it: ORBit-0.5.12-ximian.1.i386.rpm oaf-0.6.7-ximian.2.i386.rpm libxml-1.8.15-ximian.2.i386.rpm gdk-pixbuf-0.11.0-ximian.1.i386.rpm libgnomeprint15-0.31-ximian.1.i386.rpm gnome-libs-1.2.13-ximian.11.i386.rpm bonobo-1.0.14-ximian.1.i386.rpm gal-0.18.1-ximian.1.i386.rpm libgal18-0.18.1-ximian.1.i386.rpm libgtkhtml20-1.0.0-ximian.1.i386.rpm gtkhtml-1.0.0-ximian.1.i386.rpm libbonobo-conf0-0.14-ximian.1.i386.rpm GConf-1.0.4-ximian.1.i386.rpm bonobo-conf-0.14-ximian.1.i386.rpm libnss3-0.9.5-ximian.1.i386.rpm gnome-vfs-1.0.1-ximian.5.i386.rpm pilot-link-0.9.5-ximian.2.i386.rpm gnome-pilot-0.1.63-ximian.2.i386.rpm evolution-1.0-ximian.3.i386.rpm and I restarted Xwindows and it all worked. (he worked out the dependencies! I couldn't be stuffed, one day I'll install debian on it) It's been over a week now and has been perfectly stable. The "contacts" part of evolution has died once but email kept working. No lost email like netscape/mozilla and no pregnant pauses either switching mailboxes and so on. It has for now at least tempted me away from mutt (at work anyway). Dave. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Cable providers
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 18:55:47 +1100 Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I forgot the biggest irony of them all. 10) I cannot pay for the bigpong service over the net, nor via BPay. I have to go to a bloody post office and pay it with eftpos. Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yes it's valid) +---+ "I would rather spend 10 hours reading someone else's source code than 10 minutes listening to Musak waiting for technical support which isn't." - Dr. Greg Wettstein, Roger Maris Cancer Center -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Cable providers
On Mon 17 Dec, David Kempe made the following spurious claims: > Recent SLUG flamewars aside, plain text email is appreciated :) What part of this was NOT plain text? -> I 2 tq> [text/plain, 7bit, us-ascii, 0.7K] If you're using a mail client that can't automatically select the best version to view, I suggest you upgrade. I can recommend mutt for this. The email looked fine to me. -- Rev Simon Rumble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> www.rumble.net Inflation is the one form of taxation that can be imposed without legislation. - Milton Friedman -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Cable providers
Which doesn't leave much choice if it's the only service available. BTW, I don't go much on Flow Comms either, but I don't know how much their problem is really Telstra's problem. Does anyone know about any rumoured DDoS on Telstra recently? On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Kevin Waterson wrote: > Stephan Borg wrote: > > > I with Telstra ADSL and I can back this info 110%!! > > Same here in Byron Bay > > Kevin > > > > -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people Contact detail at http://www.lannetlinux.com "We are either doing something, or we are not. 'Talking about' is a subset of 'not'." -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Cable providers
Stephan Borg wrote: > I with Telstra ADSL and I can back this info 110%!! Same here in Byron Bay Kevin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Evolution
On Mon, 2001-12-17 at 19:27, Antony Clarke wrote: > Anyone know if you can get Evolution on CD, looked at everythinglinux but no > mention of it. 56k here so downloading is no go. I believe it is part of the Ximian distribution. > I've read that Evolution is a bit unstable without Ximian gnome, has anyone > found this? Updating to all the needed Mandrake 8.2 rpms (When I had 7.2), there were still about 3 or 4 rpms I had to get from Ximian. Having done this with a 33.6k modem, 1.0 has run very stable on my system, and unlike M7.2 kmail, my email is actually reaching its destination instead of disappearing into the ether. There are still a few features of mutt I miss though. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Evolution
Anyone know if you can get Evolution on CD, looked at everythinglinux but no mention of it. 56k here so downloading is no go. I've read that Evolution is a bit unstable without Ximian gnome, has anyone found this? Cheers, Antony -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Cable providers
I with Telstra ADSL and I can back this info 110%!! Stephan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Erik de Castro Lopo Sent: Monday, 17 December 2001 6:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Cable providers On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 15:49:03 +1100 "David Kempe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gday Chris, > > Recent SLUG flamewars aside, plain text email is appreciated :) > > However I don't think you can go past Optus for cable. My only gripe > with them would be a bit dodgy HTTP proxy setup, however for price and > speed its damn nice. I don't think there are any other cable companies > for residential use. ADSL maybe, but cable not for residential. If you are lucky enough to have the option, avoid Tel$tra. I've been with bigpong cable for over year and I am far from impressed with it. Problems include: 1) Moronic rules that state you can't run servers (Mail web etc) unless you are on the Business Plan. 2) If you are a business you must join the business plan. 3) A business plan that has 500Meg free per month and then charges 19 cents per megabyte. This compares to the cheaper Freedom plan with 3Gig free. 4) The worst Usenet news server I have ever used. Connections to it seem to freeze at short random intervals for no appraent reason. 5) A call centre which is clueless beyond belief. One call center person I spoke to didn't know the difference between an IMAP server and and iMac. 6) A tendancy to do important maintenance work on the network starting at 6am on a weekday instead of 2am in a Sunday morning like most ISPs. Said maintenance always fails to get the system back and operational in the hour or so they esitmate and is usually not running again before midday. 7) The crappy cable modem. Mine died about 2 weeks after my contract finished. My only option is to go on another plan and buy another fscking modem. 8) Crappy DNS which fails for 15 minutes at a time for no good reason. 9) Tel$tra's general poor attitude towards its mugs^H^H^H^Hcustomers. End of rant. Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yes it's valid) +---+ "Don't be fooled by NT/Exchange propaganda. M$ Exchange is just plain broken and NT cannot handle the sustained load of a high-volume remote mail server" -- Eric S. Raymond in the Fetchmail FAQ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
