Re: [SLUG] Opinions, please.
Bill Bennett wrote: I'd like to install elvis, which is a vi/ex clone, but it occurred to me to ask if anyone has any experience with others. Has anyone any strong feelings they'd like to air? When editing with it don't step on my blue suade shoes :-) Mike -- Michael Lake University of Technology, Sydney Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 02 9514 1724 Fx: 02 9514 1628 Linux enthusiast, active caver and interested in anything technical. UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER = This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. = -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Zsh: M-. should bring back last arg of prev cmd
On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Nick Croft wrote: I wrote too soon. Had to bindkey -m to establish a Meta key. Thanks - I wasnt aware of that one. No more !$ for me now. Am I the only zsh addict round here? Have been addicted to zsh since before I heard of Linux. Of course bash is doing a good job of trying to catch up with zsh. Maybe in a few more years ... -- The human race is faced with a cruel choice - work or daytime television -- Dave Barry -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Maps of Sydney ...
On Thu 21 Mar, Terry Collins bloviated thus: [1] the rational is that data collect by the US government has already been paid for by its citizens. Well, this might be the rationale for the following but isn't the specific reason why US GIS data is free. The US Government is not allowed to own copyright in any of its material. No government agency may own its publicly published materials. As for user-pays, there are two conflicting ideas: 1) We've already paid for it, so why do we have to pay for it again. 2) The person who benefits should pay. Overdoing option 2 brings you ridiculous situations like here in the UK where they have an entirely seperate taxation system, with its own substantial collection and enforcement overheads, to collect Television License Fees from 99% of the population while the roads (used by 60-80% of the population) are free. However, I think I would have a hard time convincing my grandmother why she should be paying for GIS data that you are going to use. Though I have a feeling there could be some very good (market-building, mainly) arguments in favour of free GIS data. -- Rev Simon Rumble [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.rumble.net Illegal arrivals by sea have always been a problem in Australia. Ask any Aborigine. - corruption of a Robert Orben quote msg21764/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [SLUG] Mandrake 8.2
I'm using a 2 meg link and at times I am getting a piddley 0.32kbs So I am yet to see the download I started at 10am this morning complete :( Karl Bowden wrote: Has anybody finished downloading the 3 cd's of mandrake 8.2 yet? I am almost finished cd1 on my 56k connection (i get unlimited downloads). But if anybody else wanted to download cd2 or cd3, I would be willing to swap the cd's by post. Let me know if you are interested. Also once I have the 3 cds if anybody wanted the 3 cds they could post me 3 blanks and a self addresed, pre payed packaging, and I would be willing to burn em a copy at no extra charge. (except for maybe a 3 or for day wait, but that may be worth it for some people at 1.8gb) Regards, Karl Bowden -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] iptables help required
Sluggers, I'm learning iptables by trial and terror and fail to understand iptables behaviour when matching rules. I thought that once a rule was matched the chain was exited but it appears that iptables continues down the chain attempting to match all rules. Is this true and if so what the hell for? This would appear to me to make iptables about next to useless. For example, I flush all the input rules with # iptables -F INPUT I then add a couple of simple rules with # iptables -A INPUT -p TCP --dport 80 -j LOG --log-prefix HTTP: # iptables -A INPUT -p TCP -j LOG --log-prefix OTHER: But when I list /var/log/messages I get both the HTTP and OTHER labels!!! Mar 21 21:25:26 ganymede kernel: HTTP: IN=lo OUT= [snip] Mar 21 21:25:26 ganymede kernel: OTHER: IN=lo OUT= [snip] So what's the story? I want to impliment a DENY or DROP policy so that packets that I don't have a rule for get dumped but as soon as I change the INPUT policy to DENY or DROP nothing can talk to the box, even though I have a matching input rule. I don't want to have to impliment a chain by putting in matching rules for all the ports that I don't want I just want to put in a list of allows and then a DROP at the end. Anyone have any ideas? Is their a flag or switch on iptables that changes the traverse policy to exit on match. Clues sticks? TIA's Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] iptables help required
$author = Peter Rundle ; I then add a couple of simple rules with # iptables -A INPUT -p TCP --dport 80 -j LOG --log-prefix HTTP: # iptables -A INPUT -p TCP -j LOG --log-prefix OTHER: But when I list /var/log/messages I get both the HTTP and OTHER labels!!! Mar 21 21:25:26 ganymede kernel: HTTP: IN=lo OUT= [snip] Mar 21 21:25:26 ganymede kernel: OTHER: IN=lo OUT= [snip] So what's the story? logging doesn't automatically stop processing. it jumps to the log action but returns to continue processing the ruleset. if you jump to one of the other actions (ie. DROP, REJECT, ALLOW) that does cease processing... so to implement your DROP by default, allow what we specify, set the default policy of the ruleset to DROP: iptables -P INPUT DROP and then add all your allow rules, and then just to be sure, i always finish with a DROP to remind myself i am dropping everything (even though this is redundant given the default policy, but i prefer defense in depth, so if i forget one or the other i have a backup) have you read rusty's unreliable guides? (http://netfilter.samba.org) marty -- Skirwan - And if pigs can fly, and I can ride one, and they fly me to hell, and it just froze over, and we all have ice cream... [1] talonyx - I really need to stop reading Slashdot while on codeiene... [2] [1] - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=28984cid=3113144 [2] - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=28984cid=3113355 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] iptables help required
Ok, I think I've solved it. I can telnet to port 80 from another box ok I need to have | iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT to allow the input packets that are coming back to the terminal to be accepted. (Doh, Dur, dummy etc etc). 'scuse my ignorance Cheers Pete | -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] (no subject)
If you're running webmin on that there is a good overview package called systats. Visit the webmin home page. Otherwise ntop is good from the command line (you'll need to acquire it). ifconfig also gives you the poop. systats is pretty, gives cute little by the minute graphs including eth activity. Breaks by daily, weekly, monthly and yearly. HTH Stu - Original Message - From: Ben Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 21 March 2002 9:10 Subject: [SLUG] (no subject) Hi Slugs, Is there a way to tell how hard a network card is being used in a PC. e.g stats, errors, usage, etc. I wouldn't know where to start looking so some help would be appreciated. I'm running debian. Ben -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Maps of Sydney ...
Rev Simon Rumble wrote:
...snip
However, I think I would have a hard time convincing my grandmother
why she should be paying for GIS data that you are going to use.
She has (and we have) already paid for it. Most GIS activity in
Australia is in the government sector. I'd say that most of the
non-government people that are doing it create their own data; farms,
mines, etc i.e they don't care what their real world co-ordinates are,
just so long as they apply a consistent map to the their site.
The point that was being made was by having access to free data, US
companies have developed far more GIS products than Australian
companies. They probably have ten to one GIS companies and our biggest
(?) keeps going broke.
If you want to develop a Linux based GIS application, you are crippled
by having to buy or recapture real world data.
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Re: [SLUG] Maps of Sydney ...
On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Terry Collins wrote: If you want to develop a Linux based GIS application, you are crippled by having to buy or recapture real world data. There are at least two groups of CLUG people playing with GIS systems. They might have maps of Sydney going spare. Perhaps try mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]? Mikal -- Michael Still ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) UMT+11hrs -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Opinions, please.
On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 17:28, Bill Bennett wrote: I'd like to install elvis, which is a vi/ex clone, but it occurred to me to ask if anyone has any experience with others. Has anyone any strong feelings they'd like to air? gvim rocks It seems to have the most updates happening to it. Runs great on the other operating system as well. KenF -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Opinions, please.
Give me my Windows Notepad any day. kicking my self what newsgroup was this again? /kicking my self I'd like to install elvis, which is a vi/ex clone, but it occurred to me to ask if anyone has any experience with others. Has anyone any strong feelings they'd like to air? Regards, Bill Bennett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Opinions, please.
heh notepad is ok, but it all comes down to preference I probably use too many editors, joe and sometimes jed on console (or vi as a last resort), nedit and bluefish in X and textpad in winblows. -- Karl Clements Everyone is stupid, its just the degree that varies reply who=Karl Bowden date=Fri, 22 Mar 2002 00:27:30 +1100 Give me my Windows Notepad any day. kicking my self what newsgroup was this again? /kicking my self I'd like to install elvis, which is a vi/ex clone, but it occurred to me to ask if anyone has any experience with others. Has anyone any strong feelings they'd like to air? Regards, Bill Bennett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Looking For Free SMTP/POP Account,Any Suggestions?
Hello I have been using yahoo for email using their smtp and pop accounts to send and receive my email. Now they have said they will be stopping free access to this next month. So now I am looking for another free email account somewhere which has smtp and pop access. There is quite a few sites on the net where I can get an account, but I am not sure which one I should use. I am looking for one which has been around for a while and not likely to fold up in the near future, and has capacity to store 5 meg or more of messages. Suggestions anyone? Thanks for your help. Tony _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Maps of Sydney ... thanks
Thanks to everyone who replied to my query. Since the thing the maps are required for is a commercial product (currently, working on a proof of concept), there won't be any problem with paying someone for the data (although, I agree to some extent with the rationale that the data should be freely available ... it's the value add that people should be paid for). I now have a number a number of avenues of enquiry to follow through. Maybe we'll even look into talking to the Auslig people about getting some open source libraries happening, so that people who have bought their data can at least use it on Linux !! Thanks again. Harry O. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] iptables help required
On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 09:33:21PM +1100, Peter Rundle wrote: I'm learning iptables by trial and terror and fail to understand iptables behaviour when matching rules. I thought that once a rule was matched the chain was exited but it appears that iptables continues down the chain attempting to match all rules. Is this true and if so what the hell for? This would appear to me to make iptables about next to useless. You're confusing matches with targets. Matches say oh yes, this packet has the property of foo (e.g. being a TCP packet on port 80). Targets do stuff with the packet (log it, for instance). # iptables -A INPUT -p TCP --dport 80 -j LOG --log-prefix HTTP: # iptables -A INPUT -p TCP -j LOG --log-prefix OTHER: But when I list /var/log/messages I get both the HTTP and OTHER labels!!! Yes. The LOG target keeps traversing down the chain for obvious reasons; what if you want to log something, and then drop it? ipchains did it in a very unclean way. I suggest you do something like: iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j LOG --log-prefix HTTP: iptables -A INPUT -p tcp ! --dport 80 -j LOG --log-prefix OTHER: This will negate matching on port 80 for the second target. Alternatively: iptables -N HTTP iptables -A HTTP -j LOG --log-prefix HTTP: iptables -P HTTP ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j HTTP iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -j LOG --log-prefix OTHER: This will create a separate chain for HTTP. So what's the story? I want to impliment a DENY or DROP policy so that packets that I don't have a rule for get dumped but as soon as I change the INPUT policy to DENY or DROP nothing can talk to the box, even though I have a matching input rule. I don't want to have to impliment a chain by putting in matching rules for all the ports that I don't want I just want to put in a list of allows and then a DROP at the end. That's easy. iptables -N ALLOWED iptables -A ALLOWED -j LOG --log-prefix OTHER: iptables -P ALLOWED ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -j ALLOWED iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 1234 -j ALLOWED ... Anyone have any ideas? Is their a flag or switch on iptables that changes the traverse policy to exit on match. Clues sticks? I can offer you a clue stick, but you can't exit on match - what would the verdict be? d, who notes that most of this is in the Netfilter-HOWTO, or whatever it's called -- Daniel Stone[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gnea welcome to OPN. today is a day which shall live in infamy! your services are important to us. please be patient while we attempt to shine a flashlight with dead batteries. thank you. :) msg21778/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [SLUG] Opinions, please.
wine /mnt/windows/windows/notepad.exe if you must... Chris On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 00:38:16 +1100 Karl Clements [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: heh notepad is ok, but it all comes down to preference I probably use too many editors, joe and sometimes jed on console (or vi as a last resort), nedit and bluefish in X and textpad in winblows. -- Karl Clements Everyone is stupid, its just the degree that varies reply who=Karl Bowden date=Fri, 22 Mar 2002 00:27:30 +1100 Give me my Windows Notepad any day. kicking my self what newsgroup was this again? /kicking my self I'd like to install elvis, which is a vi/ex clone, but it occurred to me to ask if anyone has any experience with others. Has anyone any strong feelings they'd like to air? Regards, Bill Bennett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Opinions, please.
joe is great problem with using vim, is that if you go to a generic Solaris box, or telnet to it and try to edit something. You'll pull your hair out... or maybe it's just me, but for basic text editing joe is my fave. I like pico too Chris On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 00:38:16 +1100 Karl Clements [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: heh notepad is ok, but it all comes down to preference I probably use too many editors, joe and sometimes jed on console (or vi as a last resort), nedit and bluefish in X and textpad in winblows. -- Karl Clements Everyone is stupid, its just the degree that varies reply who=Karl Bowden date=Fri, 22 Mar 2002 00:27:30 +1100 Give me my Windows Notepad any day. kicking my self what newsgroup was this again? /kicking my self I'd like to install elvis, which is a vi/ex clone, but it occurred to me to ask if anyone has any experience with others. Has anyone any strong feelings they'd like to air? Regards, Bill Bennett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Opinions, please.
elvis is definitively the one this vi clone simply Rocks !!! On Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 12:29:24AM +1100, Ken Foskey wrote: On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 17:28, Bill Bennett wrote: I'd like to install elvis, which is a vi/ex clone, but it occurred to me to ask if anyone has any experience with others. Has anyone any strong feelings they'd like to air? gvim rocks It seems to have the most updates happening to it. Runs great on the other operating system as well. KenF -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- - Jean-Francois Dive -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ask 2 questions
* henry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Dear Nuck: I am the root , the file is as attached. Henry, 1) What is your set-up. I don't understand why you write from Outlook. 2) Don't use `root'; create a user account, i.e. adduser henry You'll be asked to provide a password. Then logout from root and login as henry. Anything like installing software that needs root priviledges, you can do from `henry' by typing `su' - you'll be asked for root's password. When you've finished, type `su henry' and you'll be yourself again. If you get sick of that, install visudo. You'll need to learn how to use vi or vim. For that install vi and vim, and to learn type `vitutor'. 3) I opened the Linux_Kernel_Hackers_Guide.ps.gz just using gv. Also `less' works, though that shows all the postscript markup as well. If in doubt use `file Linux_Kernel_Hackers_Guide.ps.gz', as in the attached script record, to see what kind of file you're looking at. In this case it shows it to be a Postscript document. No mentions of it being zipped. 4) I think you're downloading with Internet Explorer and then transferring the files to your linux machine. IE is probably unzipping the files for you without asking or telling, and without removing the gz suffix 5) PLEASE, if you attach a 751k file, just send it to me, not the whole slug list. 751 x 10 members =~ 7.5M x 100 members =~ 75M x 700 members =~ 525M Somebody has to pay for this. Just letting you know: be careful with attachments. It's better to put the file on your website and give the location. Anyone interested can download it for themselves. And apart from the slug-server paying to send out 525M of your email, each member, if they got one email like that each day, after a month would be paying to receive 21M. If they got 10 emails like that per day, they'd be paying for over 200M a month. Etc etc ... --- Script started on Fri Mar 22 08:40:25 2002 nicko@debian:~/tmp$ gunzip Linux_Kernel_Hackers_Guide.ps.gz gunzip: Linux_Kernel_Hackers_Guide.ps.gz: not in gzip format nicko@debian:~/tmp$ gv Linux_Kernel_Hackers_Guide.ps.gz nicko@debian:~/tmp$ unzip Linux_Kernel_Hackers_Guide.ps.gz Archive: Linux_Kernel_Hackers_Guide.ps.gz End-of-central-directory signature not found. Either this file is not a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive. In the latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on the last disk(s) of this archive. unzip: cannot find zipfile directory in one of Linux_Kernel_Hackers_Guide.ps.gz or Linux_Kernel_Hackers_Guide.ps.gz.zip, and cannot find Linux_Kernel_Hackers_Guide.ps.gz.ZIP, period. nicko@debian:~/tmp$ file Linux_Kernel_Hackers_Guide.ps.gz Linux_Kernel_Hackers_Guide.ps.gz: PostScript document text conforming at level 2.0 nicko@debian:~/tmp$ less Linux_Kernel_Hackers_Guide.ps.gz Script done on Fri Mar 22 08:45:51 2002 ___ Best wishes, Nick -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Opinions, please.
wine /mnt/windows/windows/notepad.exe Anyone successful in installing Windows Media Player 7.1? I tried and it said it needed an IE version installed, so I tried to install IE5.5 only to get an error on installing IE that it could not connect to the internet. Success anyone? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Opinions, please.
quote who=Jean-Francois Dive elvis is definitively the one this vi clone simply Rocks !!! Rather like banging two of them together. Rocks, I mean. :-) - Jeff -- The plural of lego is legouch, from when you tread on those plural on the floor in bare feet. - Telsa Gwynne -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] (no subject)
How many slug_members are there? I told the member for Taiwan 700.
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Re: [SLUG] (no subject)
quote who=Nick Croft How many slug_members are there? I told the member for Taiwan 700. Around 550 on the mailing list, but Patrick will know how many financial members we currently have. You can come along tonight and sign up too. :) - Jeff -- So please lets focus on preparing to beat up our neighbours instead of spending all the energy on domestic violence. - Christian Schaller on GNOME -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Looking For Free SMTP/POP Account,Any Suggestions?
Try www.myrealbox.com - it's run by Novell. For a normal webmail account, try www.linuxmail.org. Jon Hello I have been using yahoo for email using their smtp and pop accounts to send and receive my email. Now they have said they will be stopping free access to this next month. So now I am looking for another free email account somewhere which has smtp and pop access. There is quite a few sites on the net where I can get an account, but I am not sure which one I should use. I am looking for one which has been around for a while and not likely to fold up in the near future, and has capacity to store 5 meg or more of messages. Suggestions anyone? Thanks for your help. Tony _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Looking For Free SMTP/POP Account,Any Suggestions?
Try www.myrealbox.com - it's run by Novell. For a normal webmail account, try www.linuxmail.org. Jon Hello I have been using yahoo for email using their smtp and pop accounts to send and receive my email. Now they have said they will be stopping free access to this next month. So now I am looking for another free email account somewhere which has smtp and pop access. There is quite a few sites on the net where I can get an account, but I am not sure which one I should use. I am looking for one which has been around for a while and not likely to fold up in the near future, and has capacity to store 5 meg or more of messages. Suggestions anyone? Thanks for your help. Tony _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ask 2 questions
Nick Croft wrote: When you've finished, type `su henry' and you'll be yourself again. That's not the best thing to do, as it leaves you still logged in as root. All one has to do is type 'exit' and you're back at a root shell prompt. You're much better off typing 'exit' to leave the root shell and become yourself again. Matthew -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Zsh: M-. should bring back last arg of prev cmd
* Andre Pang ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: make _sure_ you run the 'compinstall' script. On my system (Debian unstable), it's in the /usr/share/zsh/4.0.4/functions/Completion directory. Debian unstable here likewise. compinstall lists as -rw-r--r-- . Do I need lines in .zshrc to the effect of autoload -U compinstall compinstall ? And should I chmod +x it? Nick -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Free Linux Training
Dear list, Anyone interested in free Linux training can register with IBM DeveloperWorks. They have about 50 different courses which starts with a basic Linux introduction through to a eight part course to help you study for LPI 101 exam. As well as advance topics such as Mosix clustering. Most of the couse is html or pdf format. http://www-105.ibm.com/developerworks/education.nsf/dw/linux-onlinecourse-bytitle?OpenDocumentCount=500 regards, -- Richard Hayes Nada Marketing - 113-115 Oxford St Darlinghurst Australia Phone: +(61-2) 9360 Fax +(61-2) 9361 0094 0414 618 425 http://www.nada.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: wine (Was: Re: [SLUG] Opinions, please.)
quote who=Peter Hardy Commercial software, but well worth the price, and the money gets poured back in to wine development. Proprietary! We use Free commercial software *every* day. - Jeff -- Odd is good by the way. I knew normal in high school and normal hates me. - Mary Gardiner -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: wine (Was: Re: [SLUG] Opinions, please.)
On Fri, 2002-03-22 at 10:39, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Peter Hardy Commercial software, but well worth the price, and the money gets poured back in to wine development. Proprietary! We use Free commercial software *every* day. Pedant! :-) Free software, with some proprietary commercial glue, then? -- Pete [EMAIL PROTECTED] AaaaAAAaaaAAA - hngh, hngh -- The Librarian (A mon^H^H^Horangutan) (Terry Pratchett, Moving Pictures) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Permission denied when automounting /home
Hi all, A simplification of my NIS problems: Whenever I try to mount the servers /home directory on a client machine (either manually or by automounting at startup) I get 'permission denied' from the server. I can mount other directories no worries. Is there some security thing here that I have to take into account? Regards, Nick Reese _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] zsh compinstall (was: Zsh: M-. should bring back last arg of prev cmd)
On Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 10:22:22AM +1100, Nick Croft wrote: compinstall lists as -rw-r--r-- . Do I need lines in .zshrc to the effect of autoload -U compinstall compinstall ? Yep, that'll work. You can also source it: % . ./compinstall (assuming you're in the right directory) And should I chmod +x it? Nah, don't do that :). -- #ozone/algorithm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - trust.in.love.to.save -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Permission denied when automounting /home
Out of curiosity what are the permissions on the home directory, and do you have any sym links in the first level of the home dir? Hi all, A simplification of my NIS problems: Whenever I try to mount the servers /home directory on a client machine (either manually or by automounting at startup) I get 'permission denied' from the server. I can mount other directories no worries. Is there some security thing here that I have to take into account? Regards, Nick Reese _ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: lynx's homepage?
At 21 Mar 2002 10:17:51 +1100, Peter Hardy wrote: On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 10:11, Jamie Honan wrote: Pictures, frames, ssl, and text mode browsing. Does w3m do http auth? This is the one sticking point that's stopped me from replacing lynx with links on all of my machines. w3m does. links does not. i tend to use w3m for viewing local html files, and links for actual web browsing, since links does render-while-downloading, etc which makes it feel a little nicer over a slow link. i got freaked out by w3m displaying an image in my xterm just a few days ago. since when/how does an xterm display an image? there's also w3, which can be textual or graphical, depending on what options you have turned on. w3 is the emacs web browser, of course ;) having said that, i've started using w3m-el, since i've found w3 to be a little slow on my machine. (i wish some of the popular web browser groups would have a look at w3 and steal some ideas out of it tho) -- - Gus -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: lynx's homepage?
On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 11:32:03PM +1100, Angus Lees wrote: At 21 Mar 2002 10:17:51 +1100, Peter Hardy wrote: On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 10:11, Jamie Honan wrote: Pictures, frames, ssl, and text mode browsing. Does w3m do http auth? This is the one sticking point that's stopped me from replacing lynx with links on all of my machines. w3m does. links does not. What do you mean by http auth? The login/password stuff set on a htpasswd file? (Just making sure that you're not talking about general SSL). i got freaked out by w3m displaying an image in my xterm just a few days ago. since when/how does an xterm display an image? Escape codes; I think it's EscG. I don't know if there's support for it in the official xterm, but I think rxvt has had an experimental graphics mode thing for yonks, and therefore aterm would too. Not sure about Eterm and xterm. That's pretty funky though. I've never _seen_ graphics in a terminal before, even though there's theoretically been support for it for ages ... -- #ozone/algorithm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - trust.in.love.to.save -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] ls command
G'day Gang, I'm still having trouble getting X to start but have ordered RedHat 7.2 and am hoping that may talk to my video card better. Anyway to the question. Is there a parameter to add when doing a ls the restrict the screen to one page at a time a bit like the dos command dir /p/w The /p is for page at a time and the /w is to show the lists across the page in multiple coloms. Kind Regards Dennis -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] ls command
What video card was it again? ls |more will page it. ls -la gives all the file details there's heaps of other switches. Ben -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dennis Curnow` Sent: Friday, 22 March 2002 11:41 AM To: Sydney Linux Users Group Subject: [SLUG] ls command G'day Gang, I'm still having trouble getting X to start but have ordered RedHat 7.2 and am hoping that may talk to my video card better. Anyway to the question. Is there a parameter to add when doing a ls the restrict the screen to one page at a time a bit like the dos command dir /p/w The /p is for page at a time and the /w is to show the lists across the page in multiple coloms. Kind Regards Dennis -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ls command
quote who=Dennis Curnow` Is there a parameter to add when doing a ls the restrict the screen to one page at a time a bit like the dos command dir /p/w The /p is for page at a time and the /w is to Use 'ls | more' or 'ls | less' (which is nicer). This exactly the same as using '| more' in DOS, you're piping the output through a program that does the paging for you. - Jeff -- I look forward to someday putting foo-colored ribbons on my homepage declaring 'port 25 is for spam', and 'just say no to the Spam Message Transmission Protocol!' - Raph Levien -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] epson color stylus from commandline :debian2.2r5
thought I could copy printcap/local from rh, but it doesn't exist in debian. I want to print files so I can get x working. 2)or can I have multiple desktops/terminals from the commandline? tia Bill -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] epson color stylus from commandline :debian2.2r5
I think printcap just lives in /etc/printcap in debian - but can't remember off the top of my head You can use Alt-F1, Alt-F2 ... F6 to switch between different virtual terminals, so you can have the text files open in a second terminal. Rob On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Bill Taylor wrote: thought I could copy printcap/local from rh, but it doesn't exist in debian. I want to print files so I can get x working. 2)or can I have multiple desktops/terminals from the commandline? tia Bill -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: lynx's homepage?
On Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 11:36:10AM +1100, Andre Pang wrote: That's pretty funky though. I've never _seen_ graphics in a terminal before, even though there's theoretically been support I assume you're talking about xterm here. Graphics terminals have been around for years: the first computer game I ever encountered (1975) was Moon Lander on a mainframe (Burroughs or IBM, but I've long since recycled the neurons which remembered which one) running on a vector graphics terminal. Even VT-220s could do limited graphics through downloadable character sets. I remember using Word Perfect 5.1 on VMS and doing Print Preview on a VT-220. OK, so it was a bit chunky, but it gave you a good idea of how the page would look. Cheers, John -- whois [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key id: 0xD59C360F http://kirriwa.net/john/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] epson color stylus from commandline :debian2.2r5
1) no idea 2) you have multiple (or virtual more correctly) terminals just try holding alt-f1, alt-f2 etc to swap between them. as for multiple desktops on the command line check out the application screen (apt-get install screen). it really rocks and is like a window manager for your terminal. great over ssh. -i -Original Message- From: Bill Taylor [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 12:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] epson color stylus from commandline :debian2.2r5 thought I could copy printcap/local from rh, but it doesn't exist in debian. I want to print files so I can get x working. 2)or can I have multiple desktops/terminals from the commandline? tia Bill -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug ** CAUTION: This message may contain confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, any use or disclosure of this message is prohibited. If you received this message in error please notify Mail Administrators immediately. You must obtain all necessary intellectual property clearances before doing anything other than displaying this message on your monitor. There is no intellectual property licence. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Woolworths Ltd. ** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] PPTP and different network sizes
If I have pptpd running on a linux box handing out say a remote IP address of 192.168.3.4 and a localip of 192.168.3.1. If a windows box connects then it does the equivelant of route add -net 192.168.3.0/24 gw 192.168.3.1 dev ppp0 is there anyway of changing the setup on the linux side so a /16 is handed out rather than a /24. Just trying to save some pain of having windows users manually adding routes to other subnets. -- John http://www.inodes.org/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] PPTP and different network sizes
handed out rather than a /24. Just trying to save some pain of having windows users manually adding routes to other subnets. Isnt that what a default gateway is for? dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] iptables help required
Peter, Firstly don't try by trial and error. Someone has already gone thru the same trouble as yourself. I would suggest that you go to freshmeat.net and do a search for iptables, there is a tutorial there I think it's boingworld.com or something like that. He is pretty good with his examples Also for a implied DENY or DROP what you can do is iptables -p INPUT -j DROP iptables -p FORWARD -j DROP iptables -p OUTPUT -j DROP the above rule set is just creating a standard policy to drop packets on the input, output, and forward chains I have forgotten the case for the chains. Kevin Sluggers, I'm learning iptables by trial and terror and fail to understand iptables behaviour when matching rules. I thought that once a rule was matched the chain was exited but it appears that iptables continues down the chain attempting to match all rules. Is this true and if so what the hell for? This would appear to me to make iptables about next to useless. For example, I flush all the input rules with # iptables -F INPUT I then add a couple of simple rules with # iptables -A INPUT -p TCP --dport 80 -j LOG --log-prefix HTTP: # iptables -A INPUT -p TCP -j LOG --log-prefix OTHER: But when I list /var/log/messages I get both the HTTP and OTHER labels!!! Mar 21 21:25:26 ganymede kernel: HTTP: IN=lo OUT= [snip] Mar 21 21:25:26 ganymede kernel: OTHER: IN=lo OUT= [snip] So what's the story? I want to impliment a DENY or DROP policy so that packets that I don't have a rule for get dumped but as soon as I change the INPUT policy to DENY or DROP nothing can talk to the box, even though I have a matching input rule. I don't want to have to impliment a chain by putting in matching rules for all the ports that I don't want I just want to put in a list of allows and then a DROP at the end. Anyone have any ideas? Is their a flag or switch on iptables that changes the traverse policy to exit on match. Clues sticks? TIA's Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug --- Kevin Saenz Security Analyst mobile: +61418455661 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] PPTP and different network sizes
On Fri, 2002-03-22 at 13:30, David Kempe wrote: handed out rather than a /24. Just trying to save some pain of having windows users manually adding routes to other subnets. Isnt that what a default gateway is for? If you set the default gateway, then the client will route *everything* down the VPN tunnel. Not ideal, but it looks like that's the only solution. -- Pete [EMAIL PROTECTED] By now the whole of downtown Morpork was alight, and the richer and worthier citizens of Ankh on the far bank were bravely responding by feverishly demolishing the bridges. (Terry Pratchett, The Colour of Magic) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ls command
you could try ls | more G'day Gang, I'm still having trouble getting X to start but have ordered RedHat 7.2 and am hoping that may talk to my video card better. Anyway to the question. Is there a parameter to add when doing a ls the restrict the screen to one page at a time a bit like the dos command dir /p/w The /p is for page at a time and the /w is to show the lists across the page in multiple coloms. Kind Regards Dennis -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug --- Kevin Saenz Security Analyst mobile: +61418455661 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] iptables accounting
quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone have a suggestion for software that generates reports on the amount of data going to each server that I can use for billing on a monthly basis?? ipac-ng - Jeff -- It's like having someone say to you, 'You should get back together with your first wife. You guys were good together'. It's not that simple. - David Byrne on Talking Heads -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] PPTP and different network sizes
If you push your default gateway into the ppp tunnel interface, then you'll have troubles to send the GRE packet carring the PPTP traffic into it, it could be managed with a host route pointing to the external interface for the remote vpn peer address. However windows have some strange way to handle default routes so .. Anyway, i reckon that the netmask is a standard PPP attribute, this should be configurable within the ppptp server which starts the pppd processes . Hope that help, JeF On Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 01:30:08PM +1100, David Kempe wrote: handed out rather than a /24. Just trying to save some pain of having windows users manually adding routes to other subnets. Isnt that what a default gateway is for? dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] iptables accounting
In fact,instead of loggging each packet, you should simply use the 2 counters associated with each rule. So, for example: Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT 2408 packets, 1136110 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination 00all -- * * 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0/0 Then account on it. ip-ng does this parsing and store the counters. Pay attention that thoses counters are 64bit ones and not 32 bit as usual. On Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 01:59:05PM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi to everybody on the list Thanks to all who replied to my Solaris / Linux query a couple of weeks ago. I need a little help with a iptables problem. I am trying to configure a linux machine to sit between two networks and log data downloads by hosts. ie 192.168.10.0 - - - - - - - - - - - --eth0 - linux box - eth1 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 192.168.20.0 I can currently log traffic using iptables to all destinations on y.0 using a separate rule under OUTPUT -A FORWARD -j LOG --log-level 6 -d 192.168.2.0/255.255.255.0 -i eth1 -A OUTPUT -j LOG --log-level 6 -d 192.168.20.8 -A OUTPUT -j LOG --log-level 6 -d 192.168.20.9 -A OUTPUT -j LOG --log-level 6 -d 192.168.20.10 And these messages are being logged to a file. Does anyone have a suggestion for software that generates reports on the amount of data going to each server that I can use for billing on a monthly basis?? regards Grant -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] lilo stopping booting at L
Sorry for this coming from Outlook. I've got this new CPU and motherboard, and RAM, or rather 2nd hand. Anyway, my RedHat 7.1 hard disk, which dual boots between 2k and RH7.1. I am getting this error on boot up in which lilo stops at L. Any reason, why on this and a few other motherboards that I have tried, I get this happening ? Chris The information in this e-mail and any attachment(s) is confidential and may be legally privileged. This e-mail is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the addressee, dissemination, copying or other use of this e-mail or any of its content is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient please inform the sender immediately and destroy the e-mail and any copies. All liability for viruses is excluded to the fullest extent permitted by law. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender. No contract may be construed by this e-mail. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: wine (Was: Re: Opinions, please.)
\begin{Peter Hardy}
On Fri, 2002-03-22 at 10:39, Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Peter Hardy
Commercial software, but well worth the price, and the money gets poured
back in to wine development.
Proprietary! We use Free commercial software *every* day.
Pedant! :-)
Free software, with some proprietary commercial glue, then?
note that as of a week or two ago, wine is now LGPL (instead of X11ish)
- mostly because codeweavers(*) (who make the crossover plugin) had become
aware of some nasty proprietariness afoot.
yay for the commercial wine companies and they're willingness to contribute
back, even though they have not been required to (until now).
(*) at least, i think it was them. it was definately one of the 3 (or so)
companies actively/commercially involved in wine.
if anyone thinks license discussions tend to never get anywhere, flicking
back through the wine archives and seeing how this license change was
quite quickly decided is probably worth the effort. alexandre is to be
congratulated. (there was even reference made to a summary of the MPL
license made by anand back in the early mozilla days.)
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[SLUG] Re: Re: lynx's homepage?
\begin{Andre Pang}
On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 11:32:03PM +1100, Angus Lees wrote:
At 21 Mar 2002 10:17:51 +1100,
Peter Hardy wrote:
On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 10:11, Jamie Honan wrote:
Pictures, frames, ssl, and text mode browsing.
Does w3m do http auth? This is the one sticking point that's stopped me
from replacing lynx with links on all of my machines.
w3m does. links does not.
What do you mean by http auth? The login/password stuff set on a
htpasswd file? (Just making sure that you're not talking about
general SSL).
yes. HTTP (Basic, but i think w3m can also do digest) auth.
both w3m and links can do ssl, judging by the presence of links-ssl and
w3m-ssl debian packages.
i got freaked out by w3m displaying an image in my xterm just a few
days ago. since when/how does an xterm display an image?
Escape codes; I think it's EscG. I don't know if there's
support for it in the official xterm, but I think rxvt has had an
experimental graphics mode thing for yonks, and therefore aterm
would too. Not sure about Eterm and xterm.
i only use Real XTerms(TM). (the others always have some lingering
compatibility issues, ime)
i had to move the cursor in and around it to convince myself w3m
wasn't doing some wierd X11/ImageMagick/Shape hackery or something.
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Re: [SLUG] Re: wine (Was: Re: Opinions, please.)
quote who=Angus Lees note that as of a week or two ago, wine is now LGPL (instead of X11ish) I didn't realise this had already happened (and so soon!) - great! - Jeff -- And up in the corporate box there's a group of pleasant thirtysomething guys making tuneful music for the masses of people who can spell 'nihilism', but don't want to listen to it in the car. - Richard Jinman, SMH -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] lilo stopping booting at L
On Fri, 2002-03-22 at 16:00, Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP wrote: Sorry for this coming from Outlook. Nobody's perfect. ;-) I've got this new CPU and motherboard, and RAM, or rather 2nd hand. Anyway, my RedHat 7.1 hard disk, which dual boots between 2k and RH7.1. I am getting this error on boot up in which lilo stops at L. LILO prints each letter as it completes a specific part of the boot process. The fact that it stops after the first L is significant. From http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Bootdisk-HOWTO/a1483.html : Output: L The first stage boot loader has been loaded and started, but it can't load the second stage boot loader. The two-digit error codes indicate the type of problem. (See also section ``Disk error codes''.) This condition usually indicates a media failure or a geometry mismatch (e.g. bad disk parameters). So, sounds like the old and the new motherboard are using different addressing schemes. I'd check and make sure the two BIOSen detect the drive the same. HTH, -- Pete [EMAIL PROTECTED] Much human ingenuity has gone into finding the ultimate Before. The current state of knowledge can be summarised thus: In the beginning, there was nothing, which exploded. -- (Terry Pratchett, Lords and Ladies) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: Opinions, please.
\begin{Bill Bennett}
I'd like to install elvis, which is a vi/ex clone, but it
occurred to me to ask if anyone has any experience with others.
Has anyone any strong feelings they'd like to air?
emacs
M-x viper-mode
;)
it has 5 emulation levels, to ease the rehabilitation process.
(why is there always vi discussions on this list, but never emacs ones?
is there truly that few emacs users in slug?)
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[SLUG] stopping a module from autoloading
Hi all, Is there any way to stop a module from autoloading ? I am trying to get xcdroast to use my ide cd drive as the reader. When I put a cd into the IDE drive, it wants to mount the drive. (and it does!). When I try to rmmod ide-cd, it just goes and puts it back again. Got so sick of it that I physically renamed the ide-cd.o to something else just so I could modprobe ide-scsi for xcdroast. There must be a better way!! Thanks, Andy E. (Hope to get to slug tonight, I'm on baby sitting duty so I might have to bring my kids along for their first slug meeting - dont worry they'll be quiet I've got a suitable bribe lined up for afterwards) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] ask wu-ftpd
Dear List: Wu-ftpd is a programto serve ftp-client (auto-installed in RedHat7.1). A Book says : the file(/etc/inetd.conf ) should be modified to initialize Wu-ftpd . But There isno such file (except afile xinetd.conf without any data about ftp)in my computer. How could I know wu-ftpd is alive ? ---I executed in.ftpd ,but I saw nothing on screen about ftp by typing "ps -A" . BestRegards' Henry
[SLUG] Module Section Keyword Expected
G'Day Gang, I'm still fighting with X I now get a Module Section Keyword Expected error when trying to startx. What Keyword does it require and how and where do I give it one? Also there seems to be multple XF86Config files in different locations. Which file is referred to when X starts? TIA Kind Regards Dennis -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
