Re: [SLUG] DVB Cards and MythTV
Hi Bill, I had it working on FC2 2.6.8.1, 2.6.9, 2.6.10-rc1. I have DVICO FusionHDTV-DVB-T to work. But it is one of the most challenging installation I had. Be warned it is not for the lighthearted. The level of dificulty is mainly due to installation of MythTV. The howto's are silent in many places. I had some notes but disjointed. (There is one job outstanding I am currently doing and that is modifying 'tv_grab_au' utility as it does not work harmoniously with MythTV. It comes up with error looking for --config-file and --configure during MythTVSetup). But it works with others, like tv_grab_jp, tv_grab_na_dd, etc.) I downloaded the lastest driver from: http://www.itee.uq.edu.au/~chrisp/DVICO-Linux/ which is the only site that I know has operational driver for this device. There is a version as of 30/10/2004 but actually it was modified as at 31/10/2004. But the older version at this site works just as well. I used the howto from http://www.mythtv.org and http://www.wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php and lots of late hours. I have to re-compile Linux kernel a number of times to help me figure out what happens if I do this or that. Learn as much as you can as to what happens using 'dmesg' and cat /var/log/messages. Christopher Pascoe was kind enough to point me to a site once I installed the DVICO driver and MythTV: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/dvb/. But even this site requires plenty of figuring out; trial and error. If you are looking for a quick and easy installation, forget it. Better to buy a Commercial TIVO. But if you are the one that welcomes challenges and keen to learn, then MythTV is for you. Bill wrote: Hi, Have had no success trying to get my DVico Fusion HDTV-B card to run under FC2 or Knoppix. Am considering buying another card fort use in 2nd PC ( in another room). Please advise of success stories with MythTV ( or any Linux distro) and DVB-T card that matched up and worked straight out of the box. Am I wanting too much too easily? (Rhetorical Question). Thanks Bill -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] DVB Cards and MythTV
On Tue, Nov 02, 2004 at 06:51:07PM +1100, Bill wrote: Hi, Have had no success trying to get my DVico Fusion HDTV-B card to run under FC2 or Knoppix. I have the same card. I'm not aware of any distributions that can do it out of the box. This page: http://www.itee.uq.edu.au/~chrisp/DVICO-Linux/ has instructions for making it work. I'm intending to add the support to Ubuntu (which is the distro on the machine that houses my card), however I'm currently stuck translating my RPM building knowledge to .deb. If I ever figure it out, I'll let you know where you can get packages from. The box in question also has an FC2 install, so I might be able to do something there depending on how energetic I'm feeling. Am considering buying another card fort use in 2nd PC ( in another room). I believe there are cards that work out of the box, but I'm afraid I don't know of any. HTH, James. -- Now, there are no problems only opportunities. However, this seemed to be an insurmountable opportunity. - http://www.surfare.net/~toolman/temp/diagram.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Need help in choosing distro
I'm new to the mailing list, but I have a question. Firstly, some background(skip to next paragraph to avoid boredom): I first tried instaling linux like 5 years ago. I can't recall which distro. But it failed, in those times, linux was too hard for me(besides, i was quite young, around 12). Fast forward to 2002. I decide to try my hand again. I try mandrake 8.2, since it was featured in a magazine. It was painfully slow, so I just went back to windows. 2003. I test with:lunar linux(was too hard, since its source-based), college linux(isntallation bugs) and the newer mandrake(again, too bloated), since it was said to be faster. Finally 2004. I try gentoo. I get tired of all the crazy configuring and compiling here and there just for a basic working system. Now. I'm using yoper. It made my switch to linux permanent. However, yoper installs too much useless stuff, and if i uninstall them, i lose the configuration tool :(. So, now I'm considering a new distro. What I'm looking for here is: -Minimal and doesnt install redundant programs(I can install whatever is not included) -Boots quickly -Doesn't take much hard disk space -Has a supportive community I need the distro for web-browsing, chat and other simple internet-related tasks, since I have a windows machine which is used solely for games(besides being my brother's, so I can't have linux on it). Therefore I only need a minimal distribution. If you have actually read all of this message, really big thanks, since I seem to blabber on about useless stuff, such as this last line ;) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Bootup with 2.6.8 9 sorted out
Thru lots of experimenting I've discovered a few things :- 1. The messages I wanted to stop scrolling were apparently produced by initrd.img... nothing seems to stop them scrolling. I just removed initrd.img from Grub and booted directly into the kernel. I then discovered the real problem was ocurring when the kernel tried to access fstab. 2. Kernels 2.6.8 upwards seem to default to a new SCSI driver for SATA disks... it can't seem top read the fstab created by older versions i.e. with names hda, hda1 etc. 3. Compiling kernels 2.6.8 and up with the (now apparently deprecated) BLK_DEV_IDE_SATA (i.e. not using libata) gets me past this problem and performance on IDE and SATA disk reads using the old IDE interface is no worse than with 2.6.7. 4. Question :- do people need to change all SATA entries from HDA etc. to SDA to use the new libata ? I'd be really greatful if somebody with 2.6.8 or 9 could send me a copy of their fstab file, and tell me whether it was installed fresh or as an upgrade from 2.6.7. Thanks Rod --- Brought to you by a thunderbird, penguin, gnu and a camel Peter Hardy wrote: On Sun, 2004-10-31 at 14:15, Rod Butcher wrote: Sluggers, can you tell me how I can step thru the messages when I boot up.. i.e. thru Lilo and then the initial kernel startup... - You should be able to hit scroll lock during bootup to... well... stop scrolling. - As mentioned by others, dmesg will show you the contents of the kernel's ring buffer. Just after bootup this should show you the booting messages. It can rapidly overflow with things like firewall log messages though. - Some distributions (well, the only one I know for sure is debian and its offspring) put a copy of the dmesg output in /var/log/dmesg very early on in init's boot process. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: Need help in choosing distro
David wrote: I'm new to the mailing list, but I have a question. Firstly, some background(skip to next paragraph to avoid boredom): I first tried instaling linux like 5 years ago. I can't recall which distro. But it failed, in those times, linux was too hard for me(besides, i was quite young, around 12). Fast forward to 2002. I decide to try my hand again. I try mandrake 8.2, since it was featured in a magazine. It was painfully slow, so I just went back to windows. 2003. I test with:lunar linux(was too hard, since its source-based), college linux(isntallation bugs) and the newer mandrake(again, too bloated), since it was said to be faster. Finally 2004. I try gentoo. I get tired of all the crazy configuring and compiling here and there just for a basic working system. Now. I'm using yoper. It made my switch to linux permanent. However, yoper installs too much useless stuff, and if i uninstall them, i lose the configuration tool :(. So, now I'm considering a new distro. What I'm looking for here is: -Minimal and doesnt install redundant programs(I can install whatever is not included) -Boots quickly -Doesn't take much hard disk space -Has a supportive community I need the distro for web-browsing, chat and other simple internet-related tasks, since I have a windows machine which is used solely for games(besides being my brother's, so I can't have linux on it). Therefore I only need a minimal distribution. If you have actually read all of this message, really big thanks, since I seem to blabber on about useless stuff, such as this last line ;) Welcome. I'm new myself. I'd suggest Peanut tp://ftp.videomedic.net:5021/linux/distributions/peanut/contribs/past ftp://ftp.videomedic.net:5021/linux/distributions/peanut/contribs/past (under 400mb), but as other's know here, I've had trouble installing it myself. Still trying :) Slackware 10 [2 CDs] and vector4.0 soho [1 CD] are also apparently have a relatively small footprint, but I can't speak to the details or their installation/ config issues. Anyone else? Then there's Puppy Linux - just saw this today, again no other info :( Hope *some* of this helps I'm sure someone in the group will be able to be of greater assistance :) Regards, Patrick -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Need help in choosing distro
This one time, at band camp, David Liu Lau wrote: So, now I'm considering a new distro. What I'm looking for here is: -Minimal and doesnt install redundant programs(I can install whatever is not included) -Boots quickly -Doesn't take much hard disk space -Has a supportive community You might like to try our Knoppix. It boots from CD so you don't need to put anything on the hard disk, but will have a shedload of applications available should you want them. You can also set it to write some configuration stuff to the hard drive, so you don't lose all your settings between boots. Advantage here is that you can reboot into Windows just by taking the CD out. Knoppix also has _excellent_ hardware detection. It even detected my (quite obscure) USB printer and Just Workstm. -- Rev Simon Rumble [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.rumble.net It's a recession when your neighbour loses his job; it's a depression when you lose yours. - Harry S. Truman signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Need help in choosing distro
David Liu Lau wrote: So, now I'm considering a new distro. What I'm looking for here is: -Minimal and doesnt install redundant programs(I can install whatever is not included) -Boots quickly -Doesn't take much hard disk space -Has a supportive community I need the distro for web-browsing, chat and other simple internet-related tasks, since I have a windows machine which is used solely for games(besides being my brother's, so I can't have linux on it). Therefore I only need a minimal distribution. Sounds like Ubuntu is just the thing for you, though I admit to not have given it a test run myself yet. You can see screenshots at http://osdir.com/shots/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=152slide=1 It's designed for easy automatic installation and yet is based on Debian so you get all the package inter-dependency sorted out for you (so you can install and uninstall packages without feraing that you'll break anything), and a huge array of packages of Debian itself in case Ubuntu's repository isn't enough for you. HTH, --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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[SLUG] Low memory footprint spam classifiers
Hey, I've been a SpamAssassin user for about 2 years, and it seems to perform reasonably well, especially since I train it on my mail as well as trusting in the rulesets. However, I host on a virtual server with a not huge amount of memory, and having various spamd processes (I don't understand why there are separate spamd processes belonging to multiple users btw, I'm using the Debian defaults with ENABLED=1 in /etc/default/spamassassin) using 20MB of memory each is causing my machine to do a lot of swapping with resultant load averages peaking at 15 or so, and web server timeouts etc etc.[1] So, what I want is a trainable spam classifier with a smaller memory footprint than SpamAssassin. Anyone got any recommendations? -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Mepis
Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] James Gray wrote: there. If only it was KDE - heheh. I look forward to seeing what comes up. Actually I wonder how does Gnome 2.8 compare with the KDE I have now on debian testting as far as usability goes - can you tell if it's complete now? If it's complete? What was missing? Well, maybe I have more learning to do but in KDE things just seat together - when I add a CPU monitor or Skype it just inserts itself to the Kicker panel whereas for Gnome it created its own window. I learned since about some tool to bridge the gap but the fact that I had to learn about a separate tool is already a sort of a rough edge to get over in order to use Gnome effectively. I'd love to try gnome 2.8 but only have one box to play with and no time to fix it if I break it in the process. You could try the latest Ubuntu or Gnoppix LiveCDs. I'd like to try them on an existing debian testing. Booting to it from a CD then rebooting back to my permanent Debian installation won't be quite useful. At best it will let me get an impression of it. Can anyone with experience with both env's say what the latest Gnome feels like compared to the latest KDE? They taste different. There are some feature inequalities, depending on what you find important. KDE has options out the wazoo, even to the point of including a search interface in their control panel. GNOME is concentrating on its 'Just Works' philosophy, so that in-depth, technical configuration becomes unnecessary. It comes down to what you know and what you like. :-) Maybe so. I probably need to find time to play with Gnome. With KDE I just installed and used (even though I don't like its look very much). Cheers, --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] oledata.mso files
Does anyone know what the hell these are and what would I use to read them? Email and file formats have gone mad. Thanks for any help, Alan -- -- Alan L Tyree http://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: +61 2 4782 2670 Mobile: +61 405 084 990 Fax: +61 2 4782 7092 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Low memory footprint spam classifiers
Mary Gardiner wrote: However, I host on a virtual server with a not huge amount of memory, and having various spamd processes (I don't understand why there are separate spamd processes belonging to multiple users btw, I'm using the Debian defaults with ENABLED=1 in /etc/default/spamassassin) using 20MB of memory each is causing my machine to do a lot of swapping with resultant load averages peaking at 15 or so, and web server timeouts etc etc.[1] I don't understand why that is either - we only have one spamd process. we run it out of amavisd-new though. Perhaps when you run it out of procmail you get lots of em. But still, I thought the idea with spamd was that you only needed one process. So, what I want is a trainable spam classifier with a smaller memory footprint than SpamAssassin. Anyone got any recommendations? add amavis and clamav (all in backports) and fix spamassassin? dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Bootup with 2.6.8 9 sorted out
Rod Butcher wrote: Thru lots of experimenting I've discovered a few things :- 1. The messages I wanted to stop scrolling were apparently produced by initrd.img... nothing seems to stop them scrolling. I just removed initrd.img from Grub and booted directly into the kernel. I then discovered the real problem was ocurring when the kernel tried to access fstab. You will not be able to boot your kernel without 'kernel panic' resulting in frozen 'everything' it you remove 'initrd.img'. If you are able to reboot, you must have booted from some other installed kernel other than from what you have intended. The 'initrd.img' is the 'mother-of-all-modules' that allows, amongst others, mounting of file systems. So, I'm wondering how you are able to boot. 2. Kernels 2.6.8 upwards seem to default to a new SCSI driver for SATA disks... it can't seem top read the fstab created by older versions i.e. with names hda, hda1 etc. /etc/fstab from 2.4.x is understood by 2.6.x provided you did not re-arrange the cabling of your drives. For example, your IDE drives that used to be /dev/hda1, hda2, hdb1, hdb2, etc. should identify exactly the same if you you did not change the cabling. Your IDE drives becomes /dev/sda1, etc. for example if you connect it through USB via some device housing. 3. Compiling kernels 2.6.8 and up with the (now apparently deprecated) BLK_DEV_IDE_SATA (i.e. not using libata) gets me past this problem and performance on IDE and SATA disk reads using the old IDE interface is no worse than with 2.6.7. Upgrading from one 2.6.x to 2.6.x kernel to recognise the same device is not affected. So, something else you did like re-arranging the physical connection changed things. 4. Question :- do people need to change all SATA entries from HDA etc. to SDA to use the new libata ? I'd be really greatful if somebody with 2.6.8 or 9 could send me a copy of their fstab file, and tell me whether it was installed fresh or as an upgrade from 2.6.7. Again, you don't if you did not re-arrange the physical connections. Thanks Rod --- Brought to you by a thunderbird, penguin, gnu and a camel Peter Hardy wrote: On Sun, 2004-10-31 at 14:15, Rod Butcher wrote: Sluggers, can you tell me how I can step thru the messages when I boot up.. i.e. thru Lilo and then the initial kernel startup... - You should be able to hit scroll lock during bootup to... well... stop scrolling. - As mentioned by others, dmesg will show you the contents of the kernel's ring buffer. Just after bootup this should show you the booting messages. It can rapidly overflow with things like firewall log messages though. - Some distributions (well, the only one I know for sure is debian and its offspring) put a copy of the dmesg output in /var/log/dmesg very early on in init's boot process. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Low memory footprint spam classifiers
Hi, Could it be that you mixed up and use spamd instead of spamc (the client) to invoke the filter? Cheers, --Amos David Kempe wrote: Mary Gardiner wrote: However, I host on a virtual server with a not huge amount of memory, and having various spamd processes (I don't understand why there are separate spamd processes belonging to multiple users btw, I'm using the Debian defaults with ENABLED=1 in /etc/default/spamassassin) using 20MB of memory each is causing my machine to do a lot of swapping with resultant load averages peaking at 15 or so, and web server timeouts etc etc.[1] I don't understand why that is either - we only have one spamd process. we run it out of amavisd-new though. Perhaps when you run it out of procmail you get lots of em. But still, I thought the idea with spamd was that you only needed one process. So, what I want is a trainable spam classifier with a smaller memory footprint than SpamAssassin. Anyone got any recommendations? add amavis and clamav (all in backports) and fix spamassassin? dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: Low memory footprint spam classifiers
amos at amos.mailshell.com writes: Hi, Could it be that you mixed up and use spamd instead of spamc (the client) to invoke the filter? No. This is the .procmail invocation: :0 fw | /usr/bin/spamc I'm not sure it would even work if I invoked spamd directly... (and yes, it does work!) That said, even if I did solve this secondary problem of there appearing to be one spamd for every user, that one process would still use 20-ish MB of memory, which is still a little high on this machine. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Mepis
quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, maybe I have more learning to do but in KDE things just seat together - when I add a CPU monitor or Skype it just inserts itself to the Kicker panel whereas for Gnome it created its own window. You might need to explain this better for me to understand. There's a System Monitor applet for the GNOME Panel (provided in gnome-applets); not sure about your Skype issue - does it provide a Kicker applet or a notification icon...? You could try the latest Ubuntu or Gnoppix LiveCDs. I'd like to try them on an existing debian testing. Booting to it from a CD then rebooting back to my permanent Debian installation won't be quite useful. At best it will let me get an impression of it. GNOME 2.8 isn't available for Debian's testing branch. If you installed backports, you'd taint your install. The best way to test it would be to use a LiveCD or install a distro that did have it in another partition (you could use sid+experimental or Ubuntu). - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2005: Canberra, Australia http://lca2005.linux.org.au/ Linux continues to have almost as much soul as James Brown. - Forrest Cook, LWN -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Bootup with 2.6.8 9 sorted out
On Wednesday 03 November 2004 07:42, O Plameras wrote: 4. Question :- do people need to change all SATA entries from HDA etc. to SDA to use the new libata ? I'd be really greatful if somebody with 2.6.8 or 9 could send me a copy of their fstab file, and tell me whether it was installed fresh or as an upgrade from 2.6.7. Again, you don't if you did not re-arrange the physical connections. I'm pretty sure this is wrong. My understanding is that in earlier kernels sata devices were recognized as IDE devices, post 2.6.7 they were recognized as SCSI devices. so regardless of whether cabling has altered or not the fstab entries will be wrong and need to be modified. on my system for example the first sata disk was /dev/hde and the root partition /dev/hde1 this needed to be changed to /dev/sda1. fortunately i use grub and usually leave the old kernels listed in menu.lst, so it was simply a matter of booting into a 2.6.5, altering fstab and rebooting into 2.6.8. regards, brett -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Usb Modem in Linux How To?
John Clarke wrote: Dunno about 2.6, but in 2.4 you use /dev/input/ttyACM0 and need acm.o. I think this module is called cdc-acm.o in 2.6, but I'm not running 2.6 anywhere so I can't check. Found a cdc-acm.ko under /lib/modules/2.6.5-1.358/kernel/drivers/usb/class which insmod loads into the kernel. But the modem hasn't got any power, (it's a bus powered device), so not surprisingly /dev/input/ttyACM0 doesn't respond. (I've plugged the modem into a windows system and the light comes on straight away so the modems ok). But is my understanding of Linux USB correct? Assuming I load the right module into the kernel the modem will power up or do I have to tell the kernel something, a command surely just loading a module isn't enough. Once I've got the right module loaded won't I have to start something? I'll readily admit to being completely ignorant of USB and Linux and happy to read up if I can just find a site that's current. If anyone knows of a good Linux USB howto web site that'd be appreciated. Found some but they all seem to be a bit dated. Thanks. Pete. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: oledata.mso files
Alan wrote: Does anyone know what the hell these are and what would I use to read them? Email and file formats have gone mad. Thanks for any help, Alan -- Alan Try opening in Impress (or something 'related' :)) I had a quick read of: http://dbforums.com/t945678.html and http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=222330 And is seems like it is related to embedded images in a file (again, it was only a quick read). -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Bootup with 2.6.8 9 sorted out
Brett Fenton wrote: I'm pretty sure this is wrong. My understanding is that in earlier kernels sata devices were recognized as IDE devices, post 2.6.7 they were recognized as SCSI devices. so regardless of whether cabling has altered or not the fstab entries will be wrong and need to be modified. on my system for example the first sata disk was /dev/hde and the root partition /dev/hde1 this needed to be changed to /dev/sda1. I was meaning IDE drives not SATA drives. IDE drives are referred the same way in any 2.6.x kernel which is correct. fortunately i use grub and usually leave the old kernels listed in menu.lst, so it was simply a matter of booting into a 2.6.5, altering fstab and rebooting into 2.6.8. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Low memory footprint spam classifiers
This one time, at band camp, Mary Gardiner wrote:
Hey,
I've been a SpamAssassin user for about 2 years, and it seems to perform
reasonably well, especially since I train it on my mail as well as
trusting in the rulesets.
However, I host on a virtual server with a not huge amount of memory,
and having various spamd processes (I don't understand why there are
separate spamd processes belonging to multiple users btw, I'm using the
Debian defaults with ENABLED=1 in /etc/default/spamassassin) using
20MB of memory each is causing my machine to do a lot of swapping with
resultant load averages peaking at 15 or so, and web server timeouts etc
etc.[1]
So, what I want is a trainable spam classifier with a smaller memory
footprint than SpamAssassin. Anyone got any recommendations?
I've been using bogofilter for over a year now, it's always been much faster
than SA, and in the formative years, more reliable too.
My procmail looks like:
:0fw
| bogofilter -e -p
# put back in the queue if bogofilter fails
:0e
{ EXITCODE=75 HOST }
# put the spam away
:0:
* ^X-Bogosity: Yes, tests=bogofilter
$SPAM
-Mary
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[SLUG] Re: Usb Modem in Linux How To?
John, Try http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Etwhitema/linux_adsl.html (the software is on this page) http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/ AND http://www.roaringpenguin.com/penguin/open_source_rp-pppoe.php I had trouble with a USB myself and eventually built a Smoothwall Firewall, that is VERY happy with my DSL-200 USB Modem. I'm not sure why Smoothwall - Linux software - handles this so well, and yet my Mandrake 10 was a bugger. I had only been using Linux for a couple of weeks at this point and so maybe I could do it now - but I no longer have a need :) Hope some of this helps. Patrick -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Low memory footprint spam classifiers
On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 04:31 am, Mary Gardiner wrote: Hey, I've been a SpamAssassin user for about 2 years, and it seems to perform reasonably well, especially since I train it on my mail as well as trusting in the rulesets. However, I host on a virtual server with a not huge amount of memory, and having various spamd processes (I don't understand why there are separate spamd processes belonging to multiple users btw, I'm using the Debian defaults with ENABLED=1 in /etc/default/spamassassin) using 20MB of memory each is causing my machine to do a lot of swapping with resultant load averages peaking at 15 or so, and web server timeouts etc etc.[1] So, what I want is a trainable spam classifier with a smaller memory footprint than SpamAssassin. Anyone got any recommendations? -Mary dspam bogofilter Both have Bayseian classifiers (in the case of bogofilter that's all it is AFAIK). Both are written in a real language (C/C++)[1] so should be a fair bit quicker than SpamAssassin. I haven't used either in a production role but both were easy enough to set up to get a feel for. YMMV. Cheers, James [1] Perl/Python/etc people don't flame me - this is tongue-in-cheek! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Autofs Woes
On Tue, 2004-02-11 at 12:26 +1100, Craige McWhirter wrote: I'm playing with autofs and friends and the problem that I'm encountering is that while it always mounts the object I'm after it always mounts it as root, even though I specified the user option and the user has made the access that caused the object to mount. That's odd. FWIW, here's a few fstab entries: /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 noauto,ro,users 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto,rw,users 0 0 /dev/sdc1/mnt/usbkey auto noauto,rw,users,sync0 0 Only difference I can see from yours is users instead of user which shouldn't matter. As an aside, I had to put the following in /etc/filesystems: vfat * Otherwise msdos was getting set as the filesystem type for floppies and usbkeys instead of vfat (meaning mangled long filenames) [because /proc/filesystems shows msdos before vfat - see `man mount`] I didn't have to do this on another system, so its possible that I have unnecessary drivers built. AfC Sydney -- Andrew Frederick Cowie OPERATIONAL DYNAMICS Operations Consultants and Infrastructure Engineers Australia: +61 2 9977 6866 North America: +1 646 472 5054 http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] December meeting - Tenpin Bowling
For those of you that don't know SLUG only has 11 normal meetings per annum because the last Friday is usually during the festive season when people are away etc. I know many of you would prefer to spend new year's eve at SLUG but we (the committee) think Tenpin Bowling somewhat earlier in the month would be good. I volunteered to organise it. The idea is to have teams of programming languages for example. I guess we're looking for at least 20 people who can come along. Where to exactly is the question I need answered fairly quickly. Centres I have in mind are:- Mascot - (cnr Gardeners Botany Roads - not too far from train, it's very good) Top Ryde - (the shopping centre - plenty of buses and parking, also very good, I bowl there weekly) AMF Parramatta - 20 Cowper St (don't recall every going there, couple of blocks from the station, geographic centre of Sydney). AMF Hornsby - 116 George St (visible from station, I ain't been there in years - it was fairly ordinary) AMF Sylvania - 27 Port hacking rd (private bus Connex 970 from Hurstville station, probably too inconvenient) For other suggestions lookup Tenpin Bowling in Sydney in the white pages. I was thinking of either Saturday or Sunday afternoon - not evening. Say the 11th/12th. The centre at Mascot is above a pub - there's probably some handy to the Parramatta one as well. We can shout the winners a round or something... maybe even award prizes. So just reply answering these questions only if you think you will be joining us. Which bowling alley(s) you prefer: Which dates/times you prefer: Perhaps reply directly to me so as not to clutter the list. Of course, if you have a better idea feel free to organise, but preferably try not to clash. -- ---GRiP--- Electronic Hobbyist, Former Arcadia BBS nut, Occasional nudist, Linux Guru, SLUG Secretary, AUUG and Linux Australia member, Sydney Flashmobber, Tenpin Bowler, BMX rider, Walker, Raver rave music lover, Big kid that refuses to grow up. I'd make a good family pet, take me home today! Some people actually read these things it seems. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] December meeting - Tenpin Bowling
Grant Parnell wrote: people are away etc. I know many of you would prefer to spend new year's eve at SLUG but we (the committee) think Tenpin Bowling somewhat earlier in the month would be good. I volunteered to organise it. The idea is to have teams of programming languages for example. I guess The Java bowling ball would have an API of holes for left and right handed people and would bowl smoothly on any surface - but it would roll ever sooo slowly down the alley. The Perl ball would have 20 different ways to place your fingers in the holes. The Python ball would be coloured blue. With the C ball you have to allocate the number of holes that you want when you sign out the ball and make sure that you return the ball with the same number of holes at the end of the evening. The Fortran ball would be able to handle having an entire array of balls all send down the alley at once with a single swing. Mike -- Michael Lake Chemistry, Materials Forensic Science, UTS Ph: 9514 1725 Fx: 9514 1460 -- UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER: This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Ubuntu Live
hi all i could probably find an ubuntu specific mailing list to send this to but i know jdub et al will see it here and it may interest the rest of you. i just tried out the ubuntu live cd on a couple of laptops and i'm very impressed with the distro. very slick desktop layout, all the major apps. only niggly detail i found was maximising a window hides the bottom of it behind the task-switcher. on a compaq armada 7400 it auto-detected everything, down to the X config. it wasn't so good on a compaq presario 1400 where it had a problem detecting or configuring for the video chipset and X was like a photo negative colour wise, extremely dim (not fixed by adjusting screen brightness) and text was illegible due to pixellation. unfortunately i can't test this with the install CD as it isn't my laptop to mess with. i'm definately thinking of switching my debian desktop from unstable across to ubuntu. not sure about braving a dist-upgrade method so i'll probably spring for a new hard disk and start with a fresh install. cheers marty -- Can't buy what I want because it's free. Can't be what they want because I'm me. Corduroy - Pearl Jam AIM: martysupinecom ICQ: 83760564 Y: marty_supine_com MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] December meeting - Tenpin Bowling
The Cobol bowling ball would cause a data exception because the number of holes was redefined as packed decimal by an outsourcer. The Pl/1 bowling ball would disappear into an array of pointers. Rod --- Brought to you by a thunderbird, penguin, gnu and a camel Michael Lake wrote: Grant Parnell wrote: people are away etc. I know many of you would prefer to spend new year's eve at SLUG but we (the committee) think Tenpin Bowling somewhat earlier in the month would be good. I volunteered to organise it. The idea is to have teams of programming languages for example. I guess The Java bowling ball would have an API of holes for left and right handed people and would bowl smoothly on any surface - but it would roll ever sooo slowly down the alley. The Perl ball would have 20 different ways to place your fingers in the holes. The Python ball would be coloured blue. With the C ball you have to allocate the number of holes that you want when you sign out the ball and make sure that you return the ball with the same number of holes at the end of the evening. The Fortran ball would be able to handle having an entire array of balls all send down the alley at once with a single swing. Mike -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Usb Modem in Linux How To?
Partick, Thanks for the links, the modem is actually just a telephone modem, but the ADSL links will help with my understanding of Linux and USB. Cheers P. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] December meeting - Tenpin Bowling
The assembler ball would be sourced from lots of bits of plastic around the room, would materialise part way down the alley and would pre-assemble its own ten-pins just prior to smashing into them. -Original Message- From: Rod Butcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2004 12:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] December meeting - Tenpin Bowling The Cobol bowling ball would cause a data exception because the number of holes was redefined as packed decimal by an outsourcer. The Pl/1 bowling ball would disappear into an array of pointers. Rod --- Brought to you by a thunderbird, penguin, gnu and a camel Michael Lake wrote: Grant Parnell wrote: people are away etc. I know many of you would prefer to spend new year's eve at SLUG but we (the committee) think Tenpin Bowling somewhat earlier in the month would be good. I volunteered to organise it. The idea is to have teams of programming languages for example. I guess The Java bowling ball would have an API of holes for left and right handed people and would bowl smoothly on any surface - but it would roll ever sooo slowly down the alley. The Perl ball would have 20 different ways to place your fingers in the holes. The Python ball would be coloured blue. With the C ball you have to allocate the number of holes that you want when you sign out the ball and make sure that you return the ball with the same number of holes at the end of the evening. The Fortran ball would be able to handle having an entire array of balls all send down the alley at once with a single swing. Mike -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] December meeting - Tenpin Bowling
The lisp ball would have no holes. It's appearance would look like a collage of nail clippings. In the hands of a someone who could actually bowl the ball, it would usually hit the middle pin. On Wed, Nov 03, 2004 at 12:46:52PM +1100, Rowling, Jill wrote: The assembler ball would be sourced from lots of bits of plastic around the room, would materialise part way down the alley and would pre-assemble its own ten-pins just prior to smashing into them. Rod Butcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Cobol bowling ball would cause a data exception because the number of holes was redefined as packed decimal by an outsourcer. The Pl/1 bowling ball would disappear into an array of pointers. Michael Lake wrote: The Java bowling ball would have an API of holes for left and right handed people and would bowl smoothly on any surface - but it would roll ever sooo slowly down the alley. The Perl ball would have 20 different ways to place your fingers in the holes. The Python ball would be coloured blue. With the C ball you have to allocate the number of holes that you want when you sign out the ball and make sure that you return the ball with the same number of holes at the end of the evening. The Fortran ball would be able to handle having an entire array of balls all send down the alley at once with a single swing. -- Norman Gaywood, Systems Administrator School of Mathematics, Statistics and Computer Science University of New England, Armidale, NSW 2351, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED]Phone: +61 (0)2 6773 2412 http://turing.une.edu.au/~normFax: +61 (0)2 6773 3312 Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Nautilus middle-mouse no longer closes parent window
A quicky for the Debian Gnome gurus... For some reason gthumb was the default action for Folders (File-roller kept using it to open extracted folders :-( So made a new action nautilus %s to fix this. This has now broken Computer on my desktop and the middle-mouse button no longer opens a folder and closes it's parent. I can't find any gconf settings for this action and tried reinstalling nautilus (and associated) and gnome-mime-data but no dice. It's okay for my other test user so it's somewhere in my personal settings :-( TIA -- Simon Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wongy.org -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] DVB Cards and MythTV
I have the twinham, dvb card drivers are included in the mainline kernel from 2.6.7, Works fine. I have some minor issues that are related to my main board and its pci bus. check the mailing list archive where I talk about it in more detail. The only things you need to do is ensure the modules are built and loaded. On 02/11/2004, at 7:30 PM, James Gregory wrote: On Tue, Nov 02, 2004 at 06:51:07PM +1100, Bill wrote: Hi, Have had no success trying to get my DVico Fusion HDTV-B card to run under FC2 or Knoppix. I have the same card. I'm not aware of any distributions that can do it out of the box. This page: http://www.itee.uq.edu.au/~chrisp/DVICO-Linux/ has instructions for making it work. I'm intending to add the support to Ubuntu (which is the distro on the machine that houses my card), however I'm currently stuck translating my RPM building knowledge to .deb. If I ever figure it out, I'll let you know where you can get packages from. The box in question also has an FC2 install, so I might be able to do something there depending on how energetic I'm feeling. Am considering buying another card fort use in 2nd PC ( in another room). I believe there are cards that work out of the box, but I'm afraid I don't know of any. HTH, James. -- Now, there are no problems only opportunities. However, this seemed to be an insurmountable opportunity. - http://www.surfare.net/~toolman/temp/diagram.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Maybe trying out gentoo again
I think I need that level of customisation that Gentoo offers, even if its painful. A hand-tuned system is much more likely to satisfy me, and once installed shold be blazing fast. Thanks for the feedback anyways. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] procmail and mailing lists
For a while now, ezmlm has been the bane of my procmail existence; its
Mailing-List header was just different enough that all mail delivered
through it ended up in a mailbox called 'contact'.
Today I went and fixed it good; what follows here is a block of procmail shlock
that'll find the magic identifiers for the ezmlm lists and file them away by site and
localpart -- the way that most of the ezmlm lists I'm subscribe to are set up.
# generic ezmlm filter, comes before mailman otherwise mailman's filter
# will put everything into .list.contact/
:0
* ^Mailing-list: contact .*; run by ezmlm
* ^List-Post: []mailto:\/.*
{
LISTID=$MATCH
:0
* LISTID ?? ^ *\/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
{
LIST=$MATCH
:0
* LISTID ?? [EMAIL PROTECTED]/[^\.]*
.list.$MATCH-$LIST/
}
}
The double nest lets me use the match twice, firstly to get the localpart of
the list address, and the second to get the part between the @ and the first
dot in the domain name.
Hope that helps someone; for a full set of mailing list procmail check out
http://spacepants.org/conf/dot.procmailrc
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Re: [SLUG] Maybe trying out gentoo again
its painful. A hand-tuned system is much more likely to satisfy me, and once installed shold be blazing fast. Thanks for the feedback It'll be blazing fast if you put it on a blazing fast machine, it'll be crap and slow if you install it on a P120 troll walks out from under bridge... the speed of the OS has not a great amount to do with compiler optimisations, people convince themselves Gentoo is faster to justify the waiting for it to compile itself install times... but its all in their minds ;-) troll ducks back under bridge Dave. -- David Airlie, Software Engineer http://www.skynet.ie/~airlied / airlied at skynet.ie pam_smb / Linux DECstation / Linux VAX / ILUG person -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Need help in choosing distro
On Tue, Nov 02, 2004 at 10:49:23PM +1100, David Liu Lau wrote: So, now I'm considering a new distro. What I'm looking for here is: -Minimal and doesnt install redundant programs(I can install whatever is not included) -Boots quickly -Doesn't take much hard disk space -Has a supportive community Given the last point, I'm surprised that you haven't chosen one of the most popular distros. For the previous three points, it'd be nice to know how important they are. Do you have slow machine with a small disk? Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Maybe trying out gentoo again
David Liu Lau wrote: I think I need that level of customisation that Gentoo offers, even if its painful. A hand-tuned system is much more likely to satisfy me, and once installed shold be blazing fast. Thanks for the feedback anyways. I like your idea of having complete control over what one has and what one should not have in the Kernel configuration. For this Gentoo fits the profile. I practice this concept myself. Besides being optimised for speed because the kernel footprint is smaller, it is secure as it is auditable, particularly in the configuration of High-Security Servers, like bridge-firewall, Authentication Servers, Web-Servers, Mail-Servers, etc. Indeed, it is painful process, initially, but you get rewarded in the end. Also, it you do it over and over again, i.e., duplicate your server, of course, you may construct your toolbox of scripts to automate your initial manual configuration process. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Need help in choosing distro
David Liu Lau wrote: I'm new to the mailing list, but I have a question. Firstly, some background(skip to next paragraph to avoid boredom): snip So, now I'm considering a new distro. What I'm looking for here is: http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/10/30/137 David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] DVB Cards and MythTV
tv_grab_au 0.6 http://www.onlinetractorparts.com.au/rohbags/xmltvau/ there are some issues with data at the moment but its being sorted out On 03/11/2004, at 4:52 PM, O Plameras wrote: Ben de Luca wrote: Hey OP There shouldnt be any problems with tv_grab_au, in the way you suggest, the script doesn't need to be modified I think you have miss configured some thing. When I get home (in hospital atm), i will sort out some questions to ask you in regards to your system to get it going right. bd Hi Ben, When i run: #mythtvsetup and I get to 3. Video Sources I create (New video source). Then, I setup that source, say, I call it: Antenna As I am outside U.S.A. I cannot use data-direct and so I use XMLTV using Australia as my region and Channel frequency table. When I finish the setup, MythTVSetup will then proceed and run the ff: /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/bin/tv_grab_au --config-file /root/.mythtv/antenna.xmltv --configure It returns, amongst others the ff: Unknown option: config-file Unknown option: configure I check using tv_grab_jp and it worked. (But of course, I can't recieve the signal because I'm here is Australia.) There are a couple of versions. I tried them all but with no good results. Perhaps, yours comes from another source. Are you able to tell which is your source you have, that is when you get home ? Thanks a lot. P.S. Wish you well. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] DVB Cards and MythTV
tv_grab_au 0.6 http://www.onlinetractorparts.com.au/rohbags/xmltvau/ there are some issues with data at the moment but its being sorted out On 03/11/2004, at 4:52 PM, O Plameras wrote: Ben de Luca wrote: Hey OP There shouldnt be any problems with tv_grab_au, in the way you suggest, the script doesn't need to be modified I think you have miss configured some thing. When I get home (in hospital atm), i will sort out some questions to ask you in regards to your system to get it going right. bd Hi Ben, When i run: #mythtvsetup and I get to 3. Video Sources I create (New video source). Then, I setup that source, say, I call it: Antenna As I am outside U.S.A. I cannot use data-direct and so I use XMLTV using Australia as my region and Channel frequency table. When I finish the setup, MythTVSetup will then proceed and run the ff: /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/bin/tv_grab_au --config-file /root/.mythtv/antenna.xmltv --configure It returns, amongst others the ff: Unknown option: config-file Unknown option: configure I check using tv_grab_jp and it worked. (But of course, I can't recieve the signal because I'm here is Australia.) There are a couple of versions. I tried them all but with no good results. Perhaps, yours comes from another source. Are you able to tell which is your source you have, that is when you get home ? Thanks a lot. P.S. Wish you well. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Mepis
Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, maybe I have more learning to do but in KDE things just seat together - when I add a CPU monitor or Skype it just inserts itself to the Kicker panel whereas for Gnome it created its own window. You might need to explain this better for me to understand. There's a System Monitor applet for the GNOME Panel (provided in gnome-applets); not sure I suppose I'll have to learn the specific GNOME equivalents of the programs I know in KDE (actually, I can't even remember the name of that CPU monitor program, I just right-clicked the Kicker panel and added it, and it's part of my KDE session ever since). I'll have to give GNOME a more earnest test. about your Skype issue - does it provide a Kicker applet or a notification icon...? Skype has this icon which tells you your on-line status (on-line, off-line, busy etc..) and you can click it to open the application's window. It seats in the kicker just like, e.g., the cpu monitor whereas under gnome it opened its own tiny window on the desktop. You could try the latest Ubuntu or Gnoppix LiveCDs. I'd like to try them on an existing debian testing. Booting to it from a CD then rebooting back to my permanent Debian installation won't be quite useful. At best it will let me get an impression of it. GNOME 2.8 isn't available for Debian's testing branch. If you installed backports, you'd taint your install. The best way to test it would be to use a LiveCD or install a distro that did have it in another partition (you could use sid+experimental or Ubuntu). I was hoping to be able to take advantage of Ubuntu's work and install Ubunut's GNOME 2.8 packages on my testting. I'll just wait with it a little longer. My current env is functional enough. - Jeff Thanks, --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Usb Modem in Linux How To?
Peter Rundle wrote: John Clarke wrote: Dunno about 2.6, but in 2.4 you use /dev/input/ttyACM0 and need acm.o. I think this module is called cdc-acm.o in 2.6, but I'm not running 2.6 anywhere so I can't check. Found a cdc-acm.ko under /lib/modules/2.6.5-1.358/kernel/drivers/usb/class which insmod loads into the kernel. But the modem hasn't got any power, (it's a bus powered device), so not surprisingly /dev/input/ttyACM0 doesn't respond. (I've plugged the modem into a windows system and the light comes on straight away so the modems ok). What does lsusb -v -v tell you? Is it different with the modem connected vs. disconnected? Are you connecting it through a hub or directly to the MoBo? Do you have udev on your system? (what distro is it?) Cheers, --Amos But is my understanding of Linux USB correct? Assuming I load the right module into the kernel the modem will power up or do I have to tell the kernel something, a command surely just loading a module isn't enough. Once I've got the right module loaded won't I have to start something? I'll readily admit to being completely ignorant of USB and Linux and happy to read up if I can just find a site that's current. If anyone knows of a good Linux USB howto web site that'd be appreciated. Found some but they all seem to be a bit dated. Thanks. Pete. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Maybe trying out gentoo again
quote who=David Liu Lau I think I need that level of customisation that Gentoo offers, even if its painful. A hand-tuned system is much more likely to satisfy me, and once installed shold be blazing fast. Thanks for the feedback anyways. A surprising number of ex-Gentoo users have tried Ubuntu and expressed with sheer horror that it runs faster than their fully-self-compiled systems. It is not entirely surprising to the rest of us, but it tends to shatter their perspective on software in an amusing manner. What you get with Gentoo is the administrative hassle of having to know which bits of software should be compiled against which to provide which features, and unnecessarily long package installation times, due to 'lazy compilation'. Sometimes, these can provide a slim benefit, but more often than not, they are premature optimisations that have significant ongoing costs. (*phew*...) - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2005: Canberra, Australia http://lca2005.linux.org.au/ Boys will be boys, hackers will be hackers, geeks will be geeks, and cyberpunks will always just be ravers with Macintoshes. - Monkey Master, Crackmonkey -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu Live
quote who=Martin i could probably find an ubuntu specific mailing list to send this to but i know jdub et al will see it here and it may interest the rest of you. http://lists.ubuntu.com/ on a compaq armada 7400 it auto-detected everything, down to the X config. Sweet. it wasn't so good on a compaq presario 1400 where it had a problem detecting or configuring for the video chipset and X was like a photo negative colour wise, extremely dim (not fixed by adjusting screen brightness) and text was illegible due to pixellation. unfortunately i can't test this with the install CD as it isn't my laptop to mess with. Nice one - what kind of video hardware? - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2005: Canberra, Australia http://lca2005.linux.org.au/ So please lets focus on preparing to beat up our neighbours instead of spending all the energy on domestic violence. - Christian Schaller on GNOME -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Mepis
quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] I suppose I'll have to learn the specific GNOME equivalents of the programs I know in KDE (actually, I can't even remember the name of that CPU monitor program, I just right-clicked the Kicker panel and added it, and it's part of my KDE session ever since). I'll have to give GNOME a more earnest test. Right click on the GNOME panel, choose Add to Panel..., choose System Monitor. about your Skype issue - does it provide a Kicker applet or a notification icon...? Skype has this icon which tells you your on-line status (on-line, off-line, busy etc..) and you can click it to open the application's window. It seats in the kicker just like, e.g., the cpu monitor whereas under gnome it opened its own tiny window on the desktop. Hrm, you may not have the notification area on your panel (it's on by default in Ubuntu, but not in Debian). I was hoping to be able to take advantage of Ubuntu's work and install Ubunut's GNOME 2.8 packages on my testting. That's going to hurt. :-) - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2005: Canberra, Australia http://lca2005.linux.org.au/ It doesn't matter if it is good, it only matters if it rocks. - Tenacious D, Rock Your Socks -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
