Re: [SLUG] Linux Installation Problems - Please Help

2006-03-18 Thread tuxta2

Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 

Someone reccomends ubuntu, maybe I don't remember the sys-admin, I strongly 
reccomend SuSE, get 9.3 not 10.
   



Recommending a previous version of a distribution over its current version
is a pretty poor recommendation. That means the distribution is going backwards.
 

Normally I would agree, but in the case of SuSE I have also recommended 
9.3 over 10.0 to newbies.
The reason for this is ease of use, most desktop users want dvd playback 
and other media formats to just work, like they just work in 9.3.
With 10.0, novell in their wisdom have decided not only to leave out 
libdvdcss, but also go a step further and prevent the media player from 
ever being able to play certain proprietary codecs, you have to 
completely uninstall the media player, find another yast repository that 
supports other builds and reinstall the player, and then go get 
libdvdcss aswell as other codecs. That is just simply too much to ask of 
a newbie.


If I were to use SuSE (I'm an Ubuntu user) I would use 10.0 and gets 
things to work, but for a newbie, 9.3 pro every time, just less hassle.



I have set my mother-in-law and my father up on Debian machines. If I was
to do it again I would probably choose ubuntu. I have run two versions
of ubuntu and AFAIAC the latter one was an improvement over the earlier one.
 

Yes, I always put people onto Ubuntu by default. Standard install and 
then run automatix and away they go. Its only when someone specifically 
want SuSE and they are very green, I tell them 9.3.


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Re: [SLUG] Linux Installation Problems - Please Help

2006-03-18 Thread David
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:20, Bolero wrote:
  Hello Everybody,
 
  I resend this email in text mode since somebody complaint about the
  first HTML version, which apparently could only be read in text mode
  incl. all formatting characters etc., additionally apparently loading
  your server unnecessarily due to HTML mode.

That was me ;-)

 
  I am new to Linux (RH C4) and after some weeks of stuffing around to get
  even the basics working, I am asking for help.


I'm adding to the roar of approval for Ubuntu/Kubuntu. I've put a few newbies 
onto
it including my 84 year old mother-in-law (she didn't install though!), with no
problems.

You WILL have some problems, but Windows users have problems too, even Mac users
have problems. You can't have something as complicated as a computer and not 
have
problems.

The live CD is magical. You can play to your heart's content without touching
your Windows installation at all! When you shut down, the whole thing 
disappears,
and no damage is done. Pretty much everything works, or doesn't work, exactly
as it would in a full installation (except for access to your hard drive, and
saving files permanently - that's possible but beyond the scope of a beginner).

Go to ubuntulinux.com - download and burn the live ISO file which you will
find there and try it out. It will also help you connect to the net, and you
should be able to surf websites etc. A small caution - make sure everything
you are going to use is plugged in before you start the live install, because
the installer will go looking for devices, and if they aren't there, sometimes
post install is not quite so smooth.

  Problem 1 ? ADSL Connection
 
  The installation program does not ask me to setup my network connection,
  which I tried under ?Setup Internet Connection? as well as ?Network?.
  My modem is not listed and that?s were the trouble starts.
 
  Somebody advised that I should setup the connection using DHCP instead
  of PPPoA

If you still have your windows set up working, ask your isp about
getting connected to the net. Whatever you do with your modem for windows
is exactly what you would do for linux. Ubuntu will automatically look for
DHCP. Nearly all modern broadband modems seem to use DHCP so it is something
you don't really need to think about at this point of your career.

The modem is designed to connect to your ISP. Your computer (windows, mac
or linux) then uses DHCP to connect to the modem. Once your modem is set 
up you shouldn't need to change it. If it already works for windows it will
continue to work for anything else.



  Problem 2 ? Monitor Resolution
 
  The only resolution that works is the  monitor?s native one, i.e. 1280x1024.

My recollection is that the graphics tries to give you the highest resolution 
possible. Ubuntu gives you options to lower the resolution if you wish. I'm sure
Redhat does too... I've not used RH for years.

  Problem 3 ? Audio

Some audio is problematic. The live CD will sort that for you. It will either 
work or not. If it doesn't it's best to get help (from here, perhaps).

  Should I download and install the individual drivers in Windows?  Will
  my Windows OS still work? What chance is there that the Linux RH
  problems I have will be fixed?

No relationship at all. In certain cases, linux will 
use specially installed windows drivers, but that would be clear to you when
the time came. The drivers are used with linux wrappers - very confusing for
beginners. If you ever need them, you will  then understand, but it's not
for beginners.


  Somehow I am a bit weary, Stanton Finleys installation notes in the
  beginning point out that the installation of Linux is easy and can be
  done by everyone; however there are apparently 45 pages of installation
  notes needed to get the job done!
 
  Sorry, I am to say the least a bit frustrated and would appreciate some
  help.

Unless you have some strange hardware, Ubuntu will install and run with so 
little intervention that instruction are almost superfluous. I can't imagine
filling one page, much less 45 pages. I'm very sympathetic to beginners 
though.. there is way too much jargon and too much assumption of knowledge.
such as what does DHCP mean, and should I care?. Acronyms are one of  the 
greatest blocks to knowledge ever invented. They are a kind of insane
masonic code used by computer geeks to confuse the hoards.

One thing you will find very odd is that in the Linux world there is an 
amazing and sometimes confusing amount of choice. There is not one-true-way
to do things as there is in Windows. There is endless argument about window
managers and filesystems and distributions and other arcane matters that 
serve to confuse newbies.

Ubuntu has shortcircuited a lot of those arguments by making decisions
for you. You can get into the fun of arguing religious differences if and
when you want to, but after you have been initiated. Just go with the 
default settings at first. They work really well.

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Re: [SLUG] Linux Installation Problems - Please Help

2006-03-18 Thread Ken Wilson

Hi
there is an ubuntu5.10 cd in the mail for you.
I have your address from your recent membership payment, the cd cost me 
nothing so postage is the only cost, will save you downloading and 
burning install cds, which is not always reliable, you get to make 
coasters sometimes.
ubuntu will probably sort out your networking in its initial hardware 
detection without problems

Ken

Bolero wrote:

Hello Everybody,

I resend this email in text mode since somebody complaint about the 
first HTML version, which apparently could only be read in text mode 
incl. all formatting characters etc., additionally apparently loading 
your server unnecessarily due to HTML mode.


I am new to Linux (RH C4) and after some weeks of stuffing around to get
even the basics working, I am asking for help.

My setup:

MoboD945GTP (onboard Sigmatel audio, onboard video)

Processor   Intel P640

RAM 1GB, 2GB L2 Cache

HDD 2 off SATAII, WD 160GB in raid 0,
incl. prim. Active C:/ partition with XP Pro SP1

HDD 1 off SATAII, SG 160GB NTFS, 1 swap partition 2GB,
1 Linux root partition 15GB)

Monitor Hitachi CML171SXW

Modem   External Siemens SpeedStream 4200 (as supplied by
Telstra Bigpond), presently used via USB 
connection, Ethernet connected to 2nd PC for 2nd Internet

connection.

I bought the ‘RH Fedora 4 Unleashed’ book incl. DVD, kernel 2.6.11.  The
installation as 2nd OS went OK, partitioning and formatting 2 GB swap
and 15GB root partition (both primary) with Disk Druid and using Linux
front end for selecting either OS (Windows XP Pro SP1 or Linux RH Core
4).  I got the following ‘issues’:

Problem 1   Can’t establish a working ADSL Internet connection

Problem 2   Video only works in 1280x1024 resolution, for me too
small to be comfortable with

Problem 3   Can’t get audio working


Problem 1 – ADSL Connection

The installation program does not ask me to setup my network connection,
which I tried under ‘Setup Internet Connection’ as well as ‘Network’.
My modem is not listed and that’s were the trouble starts.

Somebody advised that I should setup the connection using DHCP instead
of PPPoA (listed when I access the modem thru Windows).  Even with the
1200 odd pages book I got, the instructions are to me at least very
confusing.  The same applies to Stanton Finleys installation notes.

It appears that I have to download and install some program.  With the
Internet not working under Linux this is not possible.


Problem 2 – Monitor Resolution

The monitor’s HorizSync frequency range is picked up by the installation
program incorrectly.  As soon as I change this to the correct info as
per manual, I get an ‘Out of Range’ signal after reboot.

The vertical refresh rate is correct and I have not changed this one.

The monitor’s support pixel resolution I had to change to cover all
resolutions available in acc. with the manual.

I tried and re-installed Linux at least 15 times with various
configurations of the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, both altering horizontal
frequency as well as pixel modes.  The only resolution that works is the
monitor’s native one, i.e. 1280x1024.


Problem 3 – Audio

During the installation I am ask to test sound, which does not work.  I
get the message ‘Audio will not be available on your system’.  No
further info, that’s it.

I have installed as part of the mobo drivers Sigmatel as the audio
driver, in acc. with the mobo installation instructions.


On the Intel website, for my motherboard, there is a network, video and
audio driver for Red Hat Linux available, (…._1.3_RHEL4_U1.TAR.GZ).

Should I download and install the individual drivers in Windows?  Will
my Windows OS still work? What chance is there that the Linux RH
problems I have will be fixed?  I have to say that at this stage I
cannot afford to loose Windows since this is the only thing I have that
works.

To make matters even worse, two days ago I was changing from Linux (with
the above hiccups) to Windows using Acronis OS Selector when suddenly
nothing worked.  After re-booting I got a black screen with a blinking
underscore cursor on the top left, nothing else.

The only way to get into the system was by using an Acronis Disk
Director Boot Disk which got me going again, that is Windows only.  When
I select Linux as the OS, I’ll get a black screen with ‘Grub_’ on the
top left, nothing else.

If I deactivate Acronis OS Selector, I get a black screen with ‘Grub_”.
 Going in circles, must have to do something with the MBR, don’t know
how to wipe it.

Well this is my present situation, a pretty mess; not to mention the
hours spent during the last six weeks.

Somehow I am a bit weary, Stanton Finleys installation notes in the
beginning point out that the installation of Linux is easy and can be
done by everyone; however there are apparently 45 pages of installation
notes needed to get the job done!

Sorry, I am to say 

Re: [SLUG] Linux Installation Problems - Please Help

2006-03-18 Thread jam
On Sunday 19 March 2006 09:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   
 
 Someone reccomends ubuntu, maybe I don't remember the sys-admin, I
  strongly reccomend SuSE, get 9.3 not 10.
     
 
 Recommending a previous version of a distribution over its current version
 is a pretty poor recommendation. That means the distribution is going
  backwards. 

 Normally I would agree, but in the case of SuSE I have also recommended
 9.3 over 10.0 to newbies.
 The reason for this is ease of use, most desktop users want dvd playback
 and other media formats to just work, like they just work in 9.3.
 With 10.0, novell in their wisdom have decided not only to leave out
 libdvdcss, but also go a step further and prevent the media player from
 ever being able to play certain proprietary codecs, you have to
 completely uninstall the media player, find another yast repository that
 supports other builds and reinstall the player, and then go get
 libdvdcss aswell as other codecs. That is just simply too much to ask of
 a newbie.

 If I were to use SuSE (I'm an Ubuntu user) I would use 10.0 and gets
 things to work, but for a newbie, 9.3 pro every time, just less hassle.

 I have set my mother-in-law and my father up on Debian machines. If I was
 to do it again I would probably choose ubuntu. I have run two versions
 of ubuntu and AFAIAC the latter one was an improvement over the earlier
  one. 

 Yes, I always put people onto Ubuntu by default. Standard install and
 then run automatix and away they go. Its only when someone specifically
 want SuSE and they are very green, I tell them 9.3.

While I agree in principal, and I'm very much in favour of SuSE, I have 
recently installed SuSE10 on:

A dell 2400 for my father-in-law in the UK
A P4 for a mate
My P4 (tigger!)
AMD64X2
Celeron for a mate

I'm now going through the agony of converting every one back to 9.3 except the 
AMD64 where I'm trying ubuntu.

Why ...
AC'97 audio not detected
Sound blaster live not working
nvidia graphics AFU (I found a patch to fix twinview) then OK
wav files not playable (rate set to 32000, then nothing)
skype fails (suse  9rpm: inappropriate ioctl)
DVICO dvb card works (mythtv-0.19), twinhan does not!
kscd does not play [even though some sound works]
tigger froze (no ping, no X, no KB) 2x in 2 days, has uptimes of 100s days 
with 9.3

So, let the buyer beware, I'll not recommend 10.

I just finished ubuntu install:
quite basic compared with SuSE
I have 3 cups printers on my network, suse detects them on install + finds 
local printer
ubuntu printer: There was an error launching the application
 first impression not good.

Oh, my credintials: been using unix for 30 years (PDP11 + 15M HD + 100K ram !)
was teaching sys-admin for Hewlett Packard 20 years ago, used linux since 
1992, make a living by consulting support for RHE, RH9, SuSE, CentOS there is 
more, but that's enough to justify a considered opinion.
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Re: [SLUG] info needed desperately

2006-03-18 Thread Ken Wilson
hp laserjet 1320n works perfectly as a network printer with postscript, 
at about $1,000
There were cheaper options but this was a robust durable option without 
hang off plastic trays to break.
When I was looking a Samsung was advertised as supported for linux, 
drivers included. It was a less convienient shape and more plasticy at 
about $350 at Harris technology.

Ken

Angela Lindstad wrote:

dear slug
I am a convinced linux user (on principle, not because I know anything
about computers) I am retired and really appreciate not to get all the
bugs around that other operating systems get.
Now my HP officejet 635 printer has given up after 8 years and I need a
new one.
'does this one support linux ?' never gets an unambiguous answer. The HP
and Epson customer support people - not helpful. The shops usually have
models that dont feature on the linux compatible list.
Is there someone out there that can help ??
angela


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[SLUG] ctte nomination

2006-03-18 Thread Matthew Palmer
I'm going to have to decline the nomination as an ordinary committee member
of the SLUG committee for the coming year.  I'm flattered that anyone
thought of me for the committee, and in other circumstances I'd gladly
accept, but my time is stretched quite thin at present, and I see plenty of
very talented people already nominated who will have no trouble keeping SLUG
on the straight and narrow.

Try me again next year, though, if anyone still thinks I'm worthy.

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Re: [SLUG] Linux Installation Problems - Please Help

2006-03-18 Thread Jacinta Richardson
Linley Caetan wrote:

 So Ubuntu or Kubuntu it is and I recommend Automatix for newbies to get
 them moving with a whole raft of  applications.

An alternative to Automatix is EasyUbuntu: easy to use script that gives the
Ubuntu user the most commonly requested apps, codecs, and tweaks that are not
found in the base distribution - all with a few clicks of your mouse.

easyubuntu.freecontrib.org

Apparently maintained by very friendly people who encourage suggestions and bug
reports, does everything correctly and makes later updating and security
patching easy for the future.

Or so I've heard.  ;)

Jacinta


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[SLUG] ubuntu/debian

2006-03-18 Thread jam
Hi
in quest of enlightment, I've put aside my biases, installed ubuntu, as 
recommended for noobies, shock, horror gasp sorry cough:

After spending the morning fighting the tools:

I downloaded skype:

dpkg: error processing Desktop/skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb (--install):
 package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
Errors were encountered while processing:
 Desktop/skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb

resolvable?

I tried to get xine to play a wmv file. I enabled every repositry and every 
option. I get (sic):

The stream ShazBaz.wmv use an unsupported codec:
Video Codec: Windows Media Video 9(WMV3)
Start Playing anyway ?

Easy with SuSE: install the w32codec-all-20050412-0.pm.0.i586.rpm
All is fine.

Also, my SuSE amd64 has 32 libs, so it can run 32 apps. Skype don't give any 
other options.

If you go to packman and search for mpg123 he gives mpg321.rpm.
This was my hint to get mpg123. The symantic tools do not give any hint.

If anybody can point me in the right direction, much appreciated.
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Re: [SLUG] ubuntu/debian

2006-03-18 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 dpkg: error processing Desktop/skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb (--install):
  package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  Desktop/skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb
 
 resolvable?

Not too easily. Debian/Ubuntu doesn't have biarch (because it's a bad way of
doing things anyway), and neither have yet to move to multiarch (though that
is coming in Dapper+1, the release due at the end of the year).

For 64 bit Intel CPUs, I recommend just using the i386 distro. For actual
amd64 it gets harder because they're actually really crap at doing 32 bit.
Generally, the best way to do this for the moment is to run a 32 bit chroot,
but you'll generally find that enough of the necessary libraries are shipped
in the ia32libs package, so just unpack the Skype deb and put it somewhere
useful.

 I tried to get xine to play a wmv file. I enabled every repositry and every 
 option. I get (sic):
 
 The stream ShazBaz.wmv use an unsupported codec:
 Video Codec: Windows Media Video 9(WMV3)
 Start Playing anyway ?
 
 Easy with SuSE: install the w32codec-all-20050412-0.pm.0.i586.rpm
 All is fine.

SuSE distribute random Windows DLLs (for which they have no license) in an
RPM? Crazy. There are w32codec packages available for Debian and Ubuntu, but
*definitely not* distributed by either. There's lots of information about
these available on the Ubuntu wiki (or grab EasyUbuntu, which is a sane way
of getting some of this naughty stuff onto your system).

- Jeff

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[SLUG] Re: ubuntu/debian

2006-03-18 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Mar 19, 2006 at 01:03:26PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I downloaded skype:
 
 dpkg: error processing Desktop/skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb (--install):
  package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  Desktop/skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb
 
 resolvable?

Convince Skype to go OSS, or at least to provide a .deb file for amd64?  Not
being free software, you're always going to be playing catch up with it.

 I tried to get xine to play a wmv file. I enabled every repositry and every 
 option. I get (sic):
 
 The stream ShazBaz.wmv use an unsupported codec:
 Video Codec: Windows Media Video 9(WMV3)
 Start Playing anyway ?
 
 Easy with SuSE: install the w32codec-all-20050412-0.pm.0.i586.rpm

Nothing like a bit of illegal redistribution to keep a distro on it's toes.
There is an equivalent package available for Debian/Ubuntu called
win32codecs.  Google will reveal all, no doubt.

 Also, my SuSE amd64 has 32 libs, so it can run 32 apps. Skype don't give any 
 other options.

The package you want is ia32-libs, I'd say.

- Matt

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[SLUG] Setting up a Proliant ML530 without SmartStart

2006-03-18 Thread James Purser
Okay, I have a Proliant ML530 with a couple of 9GB disks(thanks Morgan).
However the RAID config is out of whack and I don't have any Smartstart
disks. Anybody have any suggestions on how I could set this up without
SmartStart?
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Re: [SLUG] Setting up a Proliant ML530 without SmartStart

2006-03-18 Thread Michael Fox
On 3/19/06, James Purser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Okay, I have a Proliant ML530 with a couple of 9GB disks(thanks Morgan).
 However the RAID config is out of whack and I don't have any Smartstart
 disks. Anybody have any suggestions on how I could set this up without
 SmartStart?

Dont the support section on hp/compaq website have all the available
stuff to download?
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Re: [SLUG] Setting up a Proliant ML530 without SmartStart

2006-03-18 Thread Scott Gourlay

James Purser wrote:

Okay, I have a Proliant ML530 with a couple of 9GB disks(thanks Morgan).
However the RAID config is out of whack and I don't have any Smartstart
disks. Anybody have any suggestions on how I could set this up without
SmartStart?
  

James,

When you say the RAID is out of wack in what way?

Can you boot to the os??

http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliantstorage/software-management/acumatrix/sw-drivers.html

Will get you the Linux ACU (Array Config Utility) you will be able to 
check the setup with that even reconfig.


What RAID level are you running??

If you cant boot to the OS you will probably need Smartstart, depending 
on what you want to achieve.

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Re: [SLUG] Setting up a Proliant ML530 without SmartStart

2006-03-18 Thread James Purser
On Sun, 2006-03-19 at 17:34 +1100, Scott Gourlay wrote:
 James,
 
 When you say the RAID is out of wack in what way?
 
 Can you boot to the os??
 
 http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliantstorage/software-management/acumatrix/sw-drivers.html
 
 Will get you the Linux ACU (Array Config Utility) you will be able to 
 check the setup with that even reconfig.
 
 What RAID level are you running??
 
 If you cant boot to the OS you will probably need Smartstart, depending 
 on what you want to achieve.

Bleh, me not so clear with the speaking type thing.

What I should have said was I have an ML530 that came diskless, and I
then obtained a couple of 9GB disks. The disks did not come with system
so its a fresh build of the server.
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Re: [SLUG] ubuntu/debian

2006-03-18 Thread Bret Comstock Waldow
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If anybody can point me in the right direction, much appreciated.

Google automatix.  This is a family of scripts that are provided to do all the 
extra setup for K/Ubuntu.  I have seen messages in the ubuntu forum about 
amd64 versions.

I haven't tried it, but reviews and messages about it look quite good.  It 
does all the sort of things you are writing of, including adjusting your 
sources.list file for the required repositories.

And let us know how it goes, please.  (I'm running Gentoo, and about to move 
to Australia, so it will be a month or so before I'm back on broadband to try 
it myself).

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Re: [SLUG] Setting up a Proliant ML530 without SmartStart

2006-03-18 Thread Scott Gourlay

James Purser wrote:

On Sun, 2006-03-19 at 17:34 +1100, Scott Gourlay wrote:
  

James,

When you say the RAID is out of wack in what way?

Can you boot to the os??

http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliantstorage/software-management/acumatrix/sw-drivers.html

Will get you the Linux ACU (Array Config Utility) you will be able to 
check the setup with that even reconfig.


What RAID level are you running??

If you cant boot to the OS you will probably need Smartstart, depending 
on what you want to achieve.



Bleh, me not so clear with the speaking type thing.

What I should have said was I have an ML530 that came diskless, and I
then obtained a couple of 9GB disks. The disks did not come with system
so its a fresh build of the server.
  

All is now clear

Ok.. Couple of Questions.

If it is a new build the official HP line is you have to use SmartStart...

You might be able to create a Bootable CD with something like DSL and 
install the ACU on that

then you will be able to configure the Array Controller.

You might also need to get the System Configuration Utility, on to a DOS 
bootable disk/CD as you will not have the Magic compaq partition that is 
accessed when you do F10 during Boot to run the BIOS config / System 
Configuration Utility.


This should get you around the Smart Start Issue...

Otherwise do you know some one with a current SmartStart??
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Re: [SLUG] ubuntu/debian

2006-03-18 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Bret Comstock Waldow

 On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  If anybody can point me in the right direction, much appreciated.
 
 Google automatix.  This is a family of scripts that are provided to do all
 the extra setup for K/Ubuntu.  I have seen messages in the ubuntu forum
 about amd64 versions.
 
 I haven't tried it, but reviews and messages about it look quite good.

Please use EasyUbuntu instead of Automatix. There are a lot of disappointly
bad things done by Automatix that are better to avoid.

- Jeff

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Re: [SLUG] ubuntu/debian

2006-03-18 Thread john gibbons
Do you install Easyububtu as a complete OS or is it grafted onto already 
installed Ubuntu?

John.

Jeff Waugh wrote:


quote who=Bret Comstock Waldow

 


On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   


If anybody can point me in the right direction, much appreciated.
 


Google automatix.  This is a family of scripts that are provided to do all
the extra setup for K/Ubuntu.  I have seen messages in the ubuntu forum
about amd64 versions.

I haven't tried it, but reviews and messages about it look quite good.
   



Please use EasyUbuntu instead of Automatix. There are a lot of disappointly
bad things done by Automatix that are better to avoid.

- Jeff

 



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Re: [SLUG] ubuntu/debian

2006-03-18 Thread Jacinta Richardson

john gibbons wrote:
 Do you install Easyububtu as a complete OS or is it grafted onto already
 installed Ubuntu?

EasyUbuntu ( easyubuntu.freecontrib.org ) is a set a program which you install
which then installs the other bits you want.  It's an alternative for Automatix
which was mentioned in the previous email.

J

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